1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: local station for The Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Joe Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: What is going on? Happy Monday to you? As I 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: messed up and said, Happy Sunday. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 4: Get out. 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, you've been slept yet, so for you it's 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 5: still Sunday. 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have I'm full energy, man, I'm fired. We 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: got ball over here to discuss. You know, Jeff, I 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: think and you tell me if you have a different 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: opinion here. But I think there was a popular opinion 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: a few months ago. It didn't make sense then. I 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: think it may even less sense now. That would be 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: Dion Sanders, right, the father of Shaduur Sanders. Shaduur played 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: very well, all things considered, against the Panthers in his 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: preseason debut, but It made me think of all of 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: the opinions right before the draft and when Shador was falling. 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: First round came and went no, no draft pick. Second day, 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: the second, third rounds came and went no Shador. And 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: then people were like a lot of them were like, 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: you don't take Shador. You're gonna have to deal with 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: Dion Sanders, right, You're gonna have to deal with all 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: the opinions, all the things that he's gonna say. It's 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: a circus like atmosphere, yacht stuff like that. 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: I know you heard it too. 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look back now, what has Dion 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: done to cause waves? 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: When has he gone to Twitter? 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: When has he been in a press conference saying what 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: is what's going on with the Browns and my son 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: not getting first team raps? He hasn't said or we 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: did or done anything to cause any waves whatsoever. That 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: was such a silly thought at the time, and I 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: think it looks even sillier now. 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: And actually, you know, Shudura said like I purposely like 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: have not had my dad around because of that reason. Yeah. Look, 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 5: I do think I do think it's it's fair to 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: to think, like, if you know Sanders, who was sick. 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 5: You know, if he wasn't sick, would that have changed 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 5: what his philosophy was towards you know, being present essentially? 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Right? 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, which I'm glad he's very healthy. I guess very 50 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 5: healthy is wrong, but he's healthier now obviously that I 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 5: do wonder. I think when people were talking about that, 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: they use Dion as a proxy for the media, right, 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: because there are certainly a lot of people in the 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: media who have Dion's side when it comes to anything 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: about Dion, right, And so I think it was less 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 5: about Like I never expected Dion standards to go on 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 5: Twitter and be like, why is this the fans keep 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: playing my son? But I did expect and do expect 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 5: his friends in the media to to to say to 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: say those things on ESPN. 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that. 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 5: And that's why. So I think it's it was less 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: about Dion to me. I think they just used Dion 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 5: as a proxy for like the media. So look, Josh 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 5: pay I'll give him a shout out. He does a 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: culture ball show, Josh Ba show. He's a great, great 67 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: culture ball guy. He he he is, like he had 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 5: the best way toscribe the phenomenon of like of Dion 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: and how people talk about Colorado him and like Shaduro Okay, 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: he called it the Dion tax, right, where people that 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: typically don't talk about college football, or don't follow the sport, 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: or don't really pay attention to the inner workings of 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: what's actually happening, but they feel like they have to 74 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 5: talk about it because it's a popular sports topic. The 75 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: Deon tax, right, and that that to me feels like 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 5: what it is all the time. It's people wanting to 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: have opinions about Shaudur Sanders, Deon Sanders, their family without 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: actually putting in the work to know the situation. I 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: get back to the same thing with this. You know, 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: Deon excu is getting screwed by the Browns for having 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: to play a preseason game, like every other player ever 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 5: in the same exact spot of all time has the 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 5: same same spot. Right, you put a put Joe Smith, 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 5: fifth round quarterback in the exact same position, the exact 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 5: same thing would have happened, right, exact amount of reps, 86 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: exact amount of work before the game. Everyone's hurt go 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 5: play fourth round quarterback like or fifth round quarterback that 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: it would have It would have mattered what his name was. 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: But people are out here just saying ridiculous things about 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 5: that situation that don't really know the inner work is. 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 5: And it's frustrating, by the way, when people that do 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 5: know how it works also join the crowd of saying 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 5: how unfair it is. And you know, I that bothers 94 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: me because you can be a friend of Dean Sanders 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: and also acknowledge that this is how it goes. This 96 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: is how the NFL works. When you're a four string 97 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: quarterback as he is right now, you work your way 98 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 5: up the depth chart. They draft him in the fifth round. 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: You could be upset about that, but that's over with. 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: That happened. That that happened, it's done. Now still talking 101 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: about that doesn't apply right now. What applies right now 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 5: is he's fourth string. He gets four string reps. You 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: might disagree with that, but this did nothing out of 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 5: the out of the ordinary, Brian. And now now because 105 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: he played well, which I thought he would, then what 106 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 5: happens now now if you're upset because he has a 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 5: past Gabriel yet, well, Gabral hasn't even had a chance 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: to play yet, Brian. So it would be unfair to everyone, 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 5: I think, to not let Gabriel get one chance this week, 110 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 5: I would imagine to play to see who was better 111 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: in a game. I think again, I think Sanders will 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 5: be better. So it's just, you know, the Dion tax 113 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 5: is a good way to put it, right, it's everyone 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: that just doesn't really follow the sport the way they 115 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: should that has to talk about him all the time. 116 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: Well, I would say, I do this with music quite 117 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: a bit, you know, where there will be people that 118 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: will hear a couple of the hit songs of a 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: certain band and they think they know the band, and 120 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: it's like, but you don't you know a couple of 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: the most popular songs. You don't know do you know 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: anything from this album? 123 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Do you know anything? You don't even know what I'm 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: talking about? 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: Right? 126 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: Like that happens a lot in music, so I can 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: absolutely see that in sports as well. 128 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: So that's the first thing. 129 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: The other thing is there are a lot of people 130 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: that feel strongly one way or the other about Shadoor 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Sanders and Dion Sanders, right. But that's the thing is 132 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: if you like them a lot, or them a lot, 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: if you dislike them a lot, I would say, don't 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: let like or dislike destroy your opinions, because that's happening 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: a lot on both sides, whether you love them, you 136 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: hate them, whatever it happens to be, because you had 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: people saying, you know, I remember leading up to the draft, 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: some people were tweeting me like they obviously disliked Shaduur Sanders, 139 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 3: and they were like, Oh, this guy, it's all hype 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: the guy. He's not even accurate, He's not even tough. 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you do you watch the Are you 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: kidding me? Like those are two of his core traits. 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: That's insanity. You just don't like him. 144 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: And at the same rate, there are people that really 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: like Shador, really like Dion, and then it will turn 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: into oh, he's being set up to fail, like that's 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: born out of really liking him. It starts from a 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: good place, but it leads you to a bad spot. 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: So I would say, put whatever it is you're like 150 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: or dislike for Shade or Dion to decide, don't let 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: it infiltrate your opinions. But there's a lot of that 152 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: going on on both sides of it. 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: The reason why, to me, I always found it difficult 154 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: to be a hot take person, right who has to 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: just fire off these things and be so passionate in 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: one direction or the other. Is that you have to 157 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: backtrack very often. So for example, like if you came 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: out after Segur played one game and said greatest thing ever, 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: he might play poorly next game, but Shimi Politz, he's 160 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: a rookie, and then you have to backtrack off that statement. 161 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 5: It's just taking it for what it was in game one, 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 5: which was fifth round pick playing with backups against mostly 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 5: backups who we know is very talented, Like he had 164 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: a game that remnant that looked like a player who's 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: more talented than his opponents, which we all agree he is. 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: No one disagrees with that. So if you but if 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: you make it about see I told you guys, greatest quarterback, 168 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: how dare they and then he goes down and plays 169 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 5: poorly next week, you have to backtrack, Right, that's interesting. 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: It's just analyzing it for for what it was. So 171 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 5: that's why not It's not really one of the reasons 172 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: I don't do it. But like, that's why I don't 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 5: just make definitive statements about about players after one preseason game. 174 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: It's why going on television and saying they're sat him 175 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: up to fail, you have to back I saw you know, 176 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 5: I saw r G three. He long tweet about it 177 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: he was set up to fail, and then a long 178 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 5: tweet about how great he played. And I'm like everyone 179 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: everyone was like you said he was gonna fail. Like 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: you said he was gonna fail. How can you then 181 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 5: say he played you? So that that's my point, right, 182 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 5: Like if you if you do those things, then you 183 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: look dumb when you have to backtrack. And so people 184 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: have had the backtrack because they just the you have 185 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 5: to say something, man, No, you don't you want to 186 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: say something every time. You surely don't have to. 187 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: It's funny what you're saying right there, Jeff, because and 189 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: this is a smaller thing, but it does make me 190 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: think of Dion Sanders because he's done this before, and 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 3: he's not the type to backtrack, but he's he jumped 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: the gun a little bit at times, right where you 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: think back to his first win at Colorado, and remember 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: when ed Warder he was the reporter and apparently he 195 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: wrote some things that Dion didn't like leading up to 196 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: the game, and then Dion famously said after they beat 197 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: TCU as like twenty one point underdogs or whatever, it 198 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: was he said this. 199 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, do you believe now? 200 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: And then they ended up four and eight that season, 201 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, that's not a do 202 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: you believe now? 203 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: Moment? 204 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: That was a good win, a good win. That wasn't 205 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, what do you have to say now? And 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: it made me think of this latest game, where again 207 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: he's a proud father. 208 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: This is a small thing. 209 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: I get it, but sometimes you overreact a little bit. 210 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: Shaduor Sanders threw a second touchdown pass and Dion went 211 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: to X and tweeted. 212 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what now? 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: And that's clearly a shot at the critics, you know, like, 214 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: it's obviously what it is. 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: And it's like, to me, that's not a what now moment. 216 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,359 Speaker 3: That's a good performance in the first week of the preseason. 217 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: If if Shador is starting in the regular season and 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, they go on the road to Baltimore 219 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: and he plays great and they somehow pull a stunning upset, 220 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: that's a what now moment? That's a what do you 221 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: have to say now? 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 5: Moment? 223 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: I don't think the first game of the preseason is, 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: but hey man, it's not. Dion was excited and he 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: jumped the gun a little bit. 226 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 5: Right. Look, it's okay, as you mentioned it, like many 227 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: things are true, right, Like it's a great moment for him. 228 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: I get being a proud father. I'm obviously like a 229 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: you know, a dad, and I feel I feel that 230 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: in my core when you know, you say, for your 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: kids in athletics. But you're right, like he's setting himself 232 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: up for when if it doesn't happen quite the same 233 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 5: way in game two. Now people are coming at Dion 234 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: and coming at his family, and that's why I think 235 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: just a measured approach for the most part, and to 236 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: your point, like if you do this in the regular season, 237 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 5: like heck, yeah, man, like right, put your chest out, 238 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 5: you know, brag, brag about like all those things are 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: absolutely true. But again, played well in game one. I 240 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 5: hope he gets reps, better reps with better players. I 241 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 5: don't think that's gonna happen because I think Dylan Gabriel 242 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: still has to have a chance, I mean drafted him 243 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: in the third round like he did. Gabriel has to 244 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: have a chance to uh to get the job as well. 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: So I don't actually don't know if Sanders will get 246 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: a ton of reps with the ones anytime soon. I'm 247 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: curious how they how they end up splaying the reps 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 5: this weekend, so to see sort of where where we 249 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: know where the competition is at. 250 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it will be interesting to see how it 251 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: comes along here. 252 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: But that's the thing. That's the weird thing. 253 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: You know, measured, it's probably the most accurate to have 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: a measured statement. Hey, good performance, Let's see what happens next. 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: This is the first game in the preseason. That's the 256 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: most logical statement correct, But measured doesn't get clicks, it 257 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: doesn't get a reaction, it doesn't get ratings. 258 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: So you have to then. 259 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: Go to the next It's so messed up. How but whatever, 260 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: that's where it's the. 261 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 5: Way it is. 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 263 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 5: Speaking about Colorado though, you know we don't do much 264 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: college football here. 265 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: You're on the Underhuh it is. 266 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: It's an under. It's an underseason for me with them, 267 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: it's actually one of my stronger plays for college football. 268 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 5: I just think there's a there's a lot they have 269 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 5: a lot of change. I think when you look at 270 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: I don't think so two things about Colorado quickly. One 271 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 5: is that we we didn't give Deon enough credit last 272 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: year for how how well that team played. And the 273 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 5: reason why is because ye're one, you have the d 274 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: on tax. You had a bunch of people that were 275 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,119 Speaker 5: blowing smoke every single week about their three week performance 276 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: and then you realize like, yeah, they won one conference 277 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 5: game afterwards, like they weren't actually that good that season, 278 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: but because everyone told us. Remember there was a tweet 279 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 5: by fan Duel after week three that said who would 280 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: win or what a hypothetical line we between twenty nineteen 281 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: LSU and twenty twenty three Colorado. Oh my god, the 282 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 5: line would have been fifty eight and a half. Okay, 283 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: they would have won that game sixty five dollars. 284 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: Oh all right, wow. 285 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: And then last year when they actually were good, the 286 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 5: team was nine and three, like legitimately played well last season, 287 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: no one talked about it because there was you know, 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 5: all that energy was used up talking about them in 289 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: year one, and it actually didn't they they got their 290 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: their their due last year, but they replaced and then okay, 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: So to continue my point, there's a talented team on offense, 292 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: Like look at the guys even contributing so far in 293 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: the preseason, Travis Hunter, durs Sanders Junior or Webster like 294 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: good football players. They just they lose so much. They 295 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: lose a Heisman winning corner who's also their best wide receiver. 296 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: They lost their other three top wide receivers, they lost 297 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 5: their quarterback, they replaced four offensive linemen in the portal. 298 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 5: They lose their best pass rusher, their best linebacker, their 299 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: best their best now in their best cornerback, who's their 300 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: highs and winning wide receiver. Like they lose all these guys. 301 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: It's hard and comfortable to lose all that talent and 302 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: then replace it every year with portal players. It's just 303 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: it's nearly impossible to win if you continue to do that. 304 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: I think that's the problem with Colorado. They just the 305 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: portal's great for the first couple of years as you 306 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: build up your your your roster, but at some point 307 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 5: you need to have high school players contribute, and there's 308 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 5: not enough of those guys in Colorado. Yeah. 309 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: I think it's if you're comparing it to the NFL. 310 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: I think the portal is like free agency, and that's 311 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: great if you're adding some bells and whistles to your roster, 312 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: but you don't want to rely on it for your 313 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: core players, you know what I mean, Like you want 314 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: on an n PHIL roster. You want your core players 315 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: to be draft picks. You know, you want cheaper, younger talent, 316 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: and then you supplement it with it with free agency. 317 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: But you don't want to live on free agency for 318 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: your core. And that's the thing in college too, you 319 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: don't want to live on the portal for your core. 320 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: I think it's going to come back to bite you. 321 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: You don't. And what I found very interesting, So you know, Dion, 322 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: you had had the press conference right he was announcing that, 323 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, he was with his medical team, and heading 324 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: into that was two mondays ago, I believe heading into 325 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: that the night before, I got a text message from 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: a couple of people who said, hey, like he's going 327 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: to retire. He's gonna step down for health injuries, health concerns. 328 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: And their their win total was six and a half 329 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: and the Sharps they pounced. They they Colorado. You know, 330 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: it was under six and a half and like minus 331 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: one eighty five and then ended up going to five 332 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: and a half after all the Sharps hit it. And 333 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 5: of course he ended up saying he's gonna coach, which 334 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 5: I thought was very funny, Like it's just I don't 335 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 5: know where the information comes from. But it was very clearly 336 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 5: wrong that situation. It's five and a half now the 337 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 5: win total. 338 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: Wow, So it stayed there? Interesting? Yeah, yeah, went down 339 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. 340 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Hey, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe now has 341 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just go 342 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: to YouTube dot com slash at two Pros FSR, or 343 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: if you're already within YouTube. If you're on YouTube, just 344 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: search two Pros FSR. 345 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: Be sure to hit the subscribe button. 346 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: You'll have instant access to the very, very best videos 347 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: from the show. 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This 357 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: is Jay. 358 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 6: I'm the producer of the Paul and Tony Fusco Show. 359 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 6: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 360 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 6: the show. I'm here to ask you please, don't listen 361 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 6: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 362 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 6: have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to 363 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 6: the show so it can get Camps. 364 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 5: What the heck get him? 365 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: Ignore that fool. 366 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app 367 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: or wherever you get your podcast. 368 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: He's still moving. It is Fox Sports Radio the Jeff Schwartz. 369 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. We're in for two pros and a 370 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. 371 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: Sleep Good, Good Sleep starts with a good mattress. I 372 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: trusted Mattress Firms Sleep Experts to find my perfect mattress 373 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: from their premium selection for the great sleep you deserve. 374 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: Visit Mattress Firm during their best sale of the year. 375 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: They make sleep easy. So we had history yesterday, Jeff 376 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: in the Marlins Braves game our girl Jen Powell. She 377 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: became the first female umpire to work behind the plate 378 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: in a Major League Baseball game. 379 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: Props to her. 380 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: I really do think that's an awesome story like she 381 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: paid her due. So she was the miners for a 382 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: long time. We're talking like a decade in the miners 383 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: and worked all these games and then worked her way 384 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: up and she made it to the bigs, you know, 385 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: So props to her. Worked over twelve hundred games across 386 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: the decade in umpiraring in the minor league. So this 387 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like, you know, all right, let's just get 388 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: a female anyone will do. It doesn't seem like that 389 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: at all, So props to her. She the first woman 390 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: in over a century of Major League baseball to break 391 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: the gender barrier. 392 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: That's a huge deal. So props to her on that. 393 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 5: I love so much how she fit in so well 394 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: by calling a strike on the first pitch that was 395 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 5: a ball. It was. It was like, if you want 396 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: to fit in well with majoring umpires, have you know 397 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: her first her first punch out ball was a ball 398 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: off the plate, doesn't matter, strike three, it was. It 399 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 5: was perfect. I saw people dogging her for that, and 400 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 5: I was like, well, I mean I watched CB Buckner yesterday, 401 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: same thing, Like okay, Like I watch these guys all 402 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: the time. Like she fit in perfectly with everyone else. Now, 403 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 5: her her scorecard. I followed this account that puts out 404 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 5: scorecards for umpires. I have not seen if they put 405 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 5: out her scorecard yet. I'm kind of curious if they 406 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: put out her scorecard. I mean you normally it's like 407 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: a middle of the day thing. I'm kind of curious 408 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: they put out a score card for yesterday yet. And uh, 409 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: because I'm kind of curious to see. Here you go 410 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: umpire scorecard. I wonder if it's out yet from yesterday. No, 411 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: they haven't done the games yesterday yet, so you know 412 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 5: it'll be out later today. I'm kind of kind of 413 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 5: curious about what they like. Ye you go to I'll 414 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: give a shout out. You go to their page from 415 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: the Mariners raise game two days ago. Like it has 416 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 5: an accuracy consistency call ball, you know, called accuracy. It 417 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: also has like did it help one team or the 418 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: other their calls? And actually and then it lists like 419 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 5: the actual impactful miscalls. It's good if you like. So, 420 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know what it's about. 421 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: Me. 422 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 5: Brian, I umpired high school baseball while I was in 423 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: college in the summers for extra money. I am absolutely 424 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: going to umpire again when my kids go to college. 425 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 5: I will probably do like little league baseball, honestly, like 426 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 5: the the twelves at my little league like are really good, 427 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: and umpiring is sometimes questionable. So I'm gonna I'm gonna 428 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: get you know, I'm gonna hop back in there. I 429 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 5: thought about doing it sooner than that, like maybe if 430 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: I have some free time, just like it's volunteer work. 431 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 5: You just have to buy the gear and just just 432 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 5: get in there, start calling balls and strikes. 433 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: Let's go cool, very cool. I like that. 434 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: I would, I would do it. 435 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: You would this how it sounded on a fan dual 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: sports network that first strike quote unquote that was off 437 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: the plate. 438 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: Here you go, Here we go. 439 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 4: Joey Wentz likes that first call from Jim Powell. 440 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: I like that. They'll take that all day, you know. 441 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: But you're right. 442 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: I like what you said, though, Jeff, because a lot 443 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: of people will make this a gender thing or a 444 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: Gen Powell thing. Plenty of male umpires are calling strikes 445 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: that are actually outside pitches right like not in the 446 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: strike zone. 447 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: So this is a common thing. 448 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: It's not easy, especially at that level with the movement, 449 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: the like how fast these bitches are coming in. 450 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything. 451 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's not just like an isolated incident 452 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: with her. 453 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 5: So there is a separate account called umpire Auditor. They 454 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 5: don't put out like graphics like the one I told 455 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: you about, but it says here that in our MLB 456 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 5: debut behind the Plate umpire Gen Powell missed the first 457 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 5: call of the game, but settle into call relatively unremarkable game. 458 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 5: She missed fourteen calls, correct call rate of ninety percent. 459 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 5: She was wearing thirteenth or fifteen umpires on the day. 460 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: Hmm, okay, so room for improvement, no doubt. I thought 461 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: she would have a tight strike zone. That was my 462 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: handicap for the game. That's why I like the over 463 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: the pitchers at high eras and I thought, it's exactly 464 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: what would happen, right if she calls an outside strike 465 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: that's really a ball, They're gonna be videos, They're gonna 466 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: be people clowning her. 467 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: So I thought she'd have a really tight strike zone. 468 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 469 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: It didn't turn out to be the case, but the 470 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: thought made sense to me. Here's the thing, though, too, Jeff, 471 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: is I read some of the postgame comments and a 472 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: couple of them stood out to me. Okay, so this 473 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: is Marlin's manager, Clayton mcclu How do you say this, 474 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: McCullough man, that's a good trivia. Who's the Marlins manager? Oh, 475 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: Clayton McCullough. 476 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: Of course, when I watch all these baseball games, they 477 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: panted the manager, and I'm like, I, no, you have 478 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: no idea. 479 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: I know, no, I'm reading that name on the fly. 480 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 2: Clayton McCullough and the. 481 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 5: Marlins are actually playing like feisty baseball. 482 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: They have, they've they've been really good for a little 483 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: while now. It started off terrible. They're respectable. 484 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: His statements were what you would expect, you know, this 485 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: is sort of like, hey, Jen did a really nice job, 486 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: and they said, I think she's very composed back there. 487 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: She handled and managed the game very well. Big day 488 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: for her, big day for major League baseball, that sort 489 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 3: of thing, right. I congratulated her on the accomplishment, all 490 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: those sort of nice things that you would expect. 491 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: But then there was. 492 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: One comment he made that was total sugarcoating. There's no 493 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: other way to say it. So it was one of 494 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: the punch outs you were talking about. It was Kyle 495 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: Stower's and the ball was outside clearly not a strike, 496 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: and she rang them up. She punched him out and 497 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: McCullough was seen in the Marlins dugout with his palms 498 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: held up, like. 499 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: What the hell was that? Where was that blue? You know? 500 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: And so he's asked about it after the game, Jeff 501 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: Lizabeth's comments. 502 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: He goes, over the course of the. 503 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: Game, there are a number of times that you're just 504 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: going to ask for clarity on one if you aren't sure. 505 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 3: So it could have been that, really, dude, Like that's 506 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: what we're supposed to believe. I'm just asking for clarity. Uh, 507 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: miss missus umpire? 508 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: Like that is that? Was that really a strike? Was 509 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: it really? Just asking for clarity? 510 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: This is the bigger picture, though, Jeff, and I hope 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: that we get here one day. 512 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do want I want equality. 513 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: I want men to umpire, women to umpire if they're qualified, 514 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: you know, have at it. 515 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: Great, you know, let's all get in there. 516 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: But here's the thing with equality, for anyone who's asking 517 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: for it, it's also the ugly stuff as well. 518 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: Correct correct, like absolutely, this is this is what the 519 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 5: WNBA is going through right now, or like you want 520 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 5: to be treated the same as the NBA, then you 521 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 5: have to be scrutinized and talked about that. 522 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly right. 523 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: And I think about look, think about the anyone, like 524 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: all the players and managers. They don't care who is 525 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 5: calling balls. You can have you know, it doesn't matter 526 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: who's doing it right, as long as you do it well. 527 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 5: It's all the players Care's all the managers care about. 528 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: The players care. They don't care who's back there. And 529 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: so I understand, But then again you have to sort 530 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 5: of I understand the manager sort of giving a pandurin answer, Right, 531 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: I get it. 532 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: I get it for day one, that's my thing. It's 533 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: the debut day one. So I get that a manager 534 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: doesn't want to come right out and just go in 535 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: on her on that day in particular. I get that, 536 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: But going forward, like you got to say what you 537 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: would say with a male umpire, Like if that ball 538 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: is outside and your guy gets rang up, you would 539 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: have an issue with it, and you might be very 540 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: vocal about that. So you can't just tap dance around 541 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: it and sugarcoat it. Because it's a female back there. 542 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: That is not a quality. It's also the ugly stuff 543 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: as well. 544 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: I agree. As we're talking about this, a story broke 545 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 5: that i'd like to get your opinion on because it's interesting. 546 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 5: The UFC agreed to a seven year deal. I'm gonna 547 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 5: make you guess how much this is exclusive US media 548 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 5: rights with Paramount and CBS. 549 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 550 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: How much of the seven year deal is worth for 551 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 5: the UFC broadcasting rights? 552 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: I would think it's a ton, but based on you 553 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: bringing it up, it's probably not as much. 554 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: No, No, it is a lot more, is ever guessed? 555 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god? Yeah? 556 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: Wow. 557 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: Well it's got to be in the billions range, like 558 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: multiple billions. 559 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: I have no idea how much. 560 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 5: Seven year seven point seven billion dollars? 561 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow? So we got a build a billion a year? 562 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, one point one per year. 563 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 5: That that's that's like NBA, right, NBA, it's the NBA deal. 564 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: The thing though, is it's funny, right, Like the bigger 565 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: picture is some of these fighters, for the biggest fights, 566 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: they don't make that much money at all in comparison 567 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: to the top headline boxers, you know, and it's never 568 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 3: an issue, do you hear UFC guys often being like, 569 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: oh man, we're so underpaid. You'll hear that here and there, 570 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: but it is not harped on at all. 571 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 5: No. I mean they're trying to They've been trying for 572 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 5: years to form a union. 573 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 4: Right. 574 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 5: It's been like a huge problem they've had because they 575 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 5: get paid like nothing. Yeah, it's yeah, they don't get 576 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 5: paid as much as you would think. I think they 577 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: make a lot of the their money off the endorsements. 578 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. Absolutely, Are you fight guys? 579 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 5: I don't watch a lot. I don't want watch a lot. 580 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: I'm going to my first fight on Friday, my first 581 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 5: ever my first ever MMA fight on Friday. 582 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, very nice? 583 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: No, I love it, you know, I love you know. 584 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: I'm bigger in boxing, truth be told, than UFC. But 585 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: I'll go out quite a bit, Like I've gone out 586 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: numerous times with my girl and we'll watch you know, 587 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: UFC a lot of places around Vegas they'll have it 588 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: for free and we just go hang out and check 589 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: it out. 590 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I dig. 591 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to you know, the PFL like they're 592 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 5: like the you know, like the my buddy does the 593 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: play by play guy. I did radio with Sean for 594 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: six years and so he's in Charlotte Friday, night. So 595 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: I'm going to my first ever MMA night. 596 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: Oh very cool, very cool. Well, by the way, there's 597 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: a old oh wear black. Just wear black. You know, 598 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: they can't go wrong that way. You know, it's a 599 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: fight night. You know, just to wear a black T shirt, 600 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: black pants is good. 601 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Be decked out in black. You'll be fine. Everything will 602 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: work out great. Can't go wrong that way. 603 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm telling you that's the metal concert black, 604 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: all black, you know, MMA, all black, box and whatever. 605 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: You'll be fine. Just do that. That's what I would suggest. 606 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: That's my advice from Let's go there, you go go 607 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: see Lamba God right after you know past but sure. 608 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Okay, uh. 609 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: There was an old quote this about it about ten 610 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: years ago. 611 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: You remember this. 612 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: We're talking about, you know, equality, even with the ugly 613 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: stuff as well. Remember Chris Paul h basketball player. Might 614 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: be his final year in the NBA, but about. 615 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: Ten years ago. 616 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: This is February of twenty fifteen, so more than ten 617 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: years ago. Remember when he got a technical foul and 618 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: it was from Lauren Holt Camp. She's a female official, 619 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: And after the game, he said, she gave me a tech. 620 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. 621 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: If that's the case, this might not be for her, 622 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: And oh my gosh, Jeff, like the Twitter police came in, 623 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: they came right after the juggler of Chris Paul over 624 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 3: there for saying this about Lauren Holt Camp. But to 625 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: me it applies to today as well. Can you not 626 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: see Chris Paul? Okay, it's a male official. He rings 627 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 3: up Chris Paul, and Chris Paul has a huge issue 628 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: with this. This is a terrible call. You can't see 629 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: Chris Paul. You can't hear Chris Paul postgame press conference 630 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: like that was ridiculous. If that's the case, this might 631 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: not be for him. You can't hear him. I'm saying 632 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: that you could. I could absolutely Chris Paul the way 633 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: he is, as fire as he is. This is not 634 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: just like hating on a female official because she's female. 635 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: He'd say the same thing about a male official. So 636 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: that's the thing to me, is the same thing with Jen. 637 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: Powell right now. 638 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: If you're going to be hating on the male umpire 639 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: for a bad strike zone, I don't want to hear 640 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: you sugarcoating stuff for the female strike zone either. That 641 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: that's not equal at all. 642 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: I agree. I'm I'm you just treat them, treat them 643 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 5: all the same. Yeah, it's easy if you just do that, 644 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 5: treat them all the same, because again, I mean, they're 645 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: just trying to do the same job everyone else is 646 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: trying to do, right, I mean, it's not like Jen 647 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 5: Powell's trying to do anything extra. Just call balls and strikes, man, 648 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: that's all. It's all the matters. Just just get them 649 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 5: right and yeah, you just yeah, just that's the way. 650 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: That's the way, the best way, in my opinion, to 651 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: go about business. 652 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see going forward. 653 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: If you know, I don't know if she's got the 654 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: outside strikes going on, and if there's a manager that 655 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: you watch Jeff, if he says, yeah, I didn't care 656 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: for the strike zone at all. Like what if crazy 657 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone goes out there and just like reads her 658 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: the Riot Act and gets thrown out, it's gonna be 659 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: a whole thing. 660 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. 661 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 5: So she's so I don't know how many more games 662 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: she's doing, right, She's just called up as a replacement. 663 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: So we'll see if she goes, how many more she has. 664 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: It's like, you just have to break these silly walls 665 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: down again. I love that she's broken the gender barrier. 666 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 5: Yes, but it's like all. 667 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: This silly stuff comes along with it, where you think 668 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: she's being treated unfairly. 669 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: If Aaron Boone. 670 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: Went out there and his nose to nose with her 671 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: yelling at full volume, people would make it way more 672 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: than it actually is. He's doing that with male officials. 673 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: Why shouldn't he do that with a female umpire. You 674 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's the same thing. 675 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 5: So Boone got tossed two days ago arguing balls and strikes. 676 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: Man, it was gotten tossed like forty four times or 677 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: something like that. 678 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 5: He's He's Bobby Cox reincarnated. I just I love the 679 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 5: stories like Bobby Cox getting tossed on like the first 680 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 5: inning of a game that's one hundred and five degrees, 681 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 5: just to go sit and like drink a couple of 682 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: beers in the clubhouse out for what. 683 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: Was Leo Mazzoni just rocking back and for love? Miss? 684 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 5: I find so many things about baseball so fascinating, but 685 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: like throwing the manager out as one. 686 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: Of them, Like yeah, right, sure, yeah you wouldn't. 687 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: Like do you think the NFL coaches don't yell at 688 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 5: officials all the time. 689 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: It's just different. 690 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 5: It's like it's except we we would have drag out, 691 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 5: like cussing each other out with the umpire. You know 692 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: that's not a holy f you, but you know what, 693 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: it's like, screw you too, like back and forth like 694 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: and then then just like spot the ball and play football. 695 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: In baseball, the manager out in basketball you can get 696 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: tossed right away. 697 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: You can't get away with that, No. 698 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: You just can't. And so it's interesting that that it's 699 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 5: just kind of different the way that those you know 700 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 5: that those kind of sports do the arguing with with 701 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: the officials. And I get maybe in basketball and baseball 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 5: because it's it's every day, it gets kind of annoying. 703 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 5: We're obviously in football is once a week, and so 704 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 5: it's a little easier to deal with, I think, But 705 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 5: it does always fascinate me how that tends to work 706 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 5: out like that. 707 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: By the way, Lee's leftovers coming up right around the corner. 708 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: Let me give you one stat line that caught my 709 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: attention from the preseason, Jeff, So before we get to 710 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: Lee's leftovers. So this was Graham Mertz. Okay, he's a 711 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: rookie with the Houston Texans. Sixth round pick, all right, yeah, 712 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: And is that line left a lot to be desired? 713 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: Okay? 714 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 3: It's against the Vikings. Is Brian Florio's defense? 715 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 716 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: And is his first start seven for fourteen for twenty 717 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: seven yards with three picks that line right now? Now, 718 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pick on the guy. His first start, 719 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: he stunk it up. It is what it is. But 720 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: the reason I bring this up is that he was 721 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: the one hundred and ninety seventh pick and it just 722 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: made me think of Tom Brady. 723 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: Tom Brady was one ninety ninth. 724 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Just got his statue, like twelve foot statue outside of 725 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: the Patriots stadium there right, Like, I'm not picking on Graham. 726 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: Mertz, but Tom Brady. 727 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: What do you think the chances are that Graham Mertz 728 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: goes on to win seven Super Bowls and is like 729 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: the new Goat. 730 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 2: You know what, That's what we had with Tom Brady. 731 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: It's insanity that he had a career as great as that. 732 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: And this is not throwing shade at Graham Mertz at all. 733 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: It's just to show you that a guy that was 734 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: selected two draft picks ahead of Tom Brady where he 735 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: was picked, like, you have no expectations for Graham Mertz, 736 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: but that it's astounding that people will still somehow talk 737 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: trash about Tom Brady. It's the dumbest thing you could 738 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 3: do related to sports. 739 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 5: It is surely because they just don't like Tom Brad 740 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 5: or the Patriots. But look, dude, what he did is 741 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 5: such an outlier. It'll never be done again. You know, 742 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 5: it was the perfect sort of fit between you know what, 743 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 5: what he could get done with what Belichick was able 744 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 5: to provide him from a coaching perspective. It will never 745 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 5: be done again. It'll never be done again. You know, 746 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 5: I think I did this research earlier this year. I 747 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 5: think twenty eight of the thirty two starting quarterbacks right now, 748 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 5: our first round picks. Wow, And you know, I like 749 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 5: I didn't I only even included like Russell Wilson in 750 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 5: that discussion yet because they didn't have a you know, 751 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 5: not a guaranteed starter yet. But so maybe it's twenty 752 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 5: seven now, okay, But like got it's that's what it is. 753 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 5: That's what the sport is. It's it's first round quarterbacks. 754 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 5: I mean, the only ones that are not it's it's 755 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson. I guess Tyler Shock 756 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: it would be one he ends up starting. Whoever touched 757 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 5: for the Saints won't be a first round pick. And 758 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 5: then I even know who was, probably someone else I'm 759 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: leaving out, but like that's oh gino. 760 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: Pretty pretty. 761 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 5: Twenty six then yeah, that's it. 762 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. 763 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these guys that aren't even good or 764 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: for like you're going like Daniel Jones. 765 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you know, well either there, I mean either 766 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: or Dan or Richards. 767 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah first yeah, yeah, craziness. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, 768 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 3: so a sixth rounder to win seven Super Bowls and 769 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: some people may, oh yeah they had home field advantage. 770 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, shut up, stop talking about anything football related. 771 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: All right, we gotta go. We got Lee's leftovers right 772 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: around the corner. He's Chef Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're 773 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe right 774 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. 775 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 776 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 777 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 778 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff's short. 779 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm Priban know we're in for two pros and a 780 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. If 781 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: you missed anything on today's show you want to check 782 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 3: out the podcast, just search two Pros wherever you get 783 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: your podcasts. Right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. 784 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: Believe that, be sure to follow the podcast, rate it 785 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: five stars, and you can even provide a review. Again, 786 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: just search two Pros wherever you get your podcasts, and 787 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: you'll find today's full show and the best of version 788 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 3: posted right after we get off the air, Man, we 789 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: must be driving for eight hours with Lee Roberts to 790 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: lap the fourth with you know, Jimmy Buffett in the 791 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: background right there. 792 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's dive right into this. 793 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: Do please might smell a little fun incredible, but they're 794 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 7: still good. Time to find out what lack's Lee's laos? 795 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 2: All right, Lee, what do you have for us? Man? 796 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 8: Eight hours of Jimmy? Sign me up, guys. In case 797 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 8: you missed this over the weekend. I know we're big 798 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 8: NASCAR fans here, and if so much so that we 799 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 8: were watching the Infinity Race on Saturday, you might have 800 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 8: actually missed this. The winner, Connor Zilich, who was a 801 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 8: pretty good racer apparently six races won this uh this season. 802 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 8: While he was celebrating getting out the window, putting his 803 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 8: hands up in the air, but his leg gets caught 804 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 8: in the window and he falls down, breaks his collar bone. 805 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 8: Scary scene, kind of like you almost want to laugh 806 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 8: at first, but then yeah, he hits hard and he 807 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 8: doesn't get out. 808 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: Man, that was nasty. Did you see that, Jeff? Those crazy? 809 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: It was It's never I mean we've seen that before. 810 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 5: It was it was kind of wild. 811 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit hard. I'm just glad he's okay. I mean, 812 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 3: you take a broken collarbone. Eguld have been way worse. 813 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. Guys. 814 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 8: We were, uh, we're talking about history in the MLB. 815 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 8: We were talking about Jen Powell umpiring in that game 816 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 8: this weekend. I don't know if you caught this. It 817 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 8: was Bill vec Knight for the White Sox that were 818 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 8: celebrating their their former owner. Lots of stuff going on there. 819 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 8: You had a one minute wedding, You had a petting 820 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 8: zoo with slots and whatnot in the outfield. Also had 821 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 8: a record breaking fifty foot glizzy Chicago style hot dog 822 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 8: out there if you wanted to take a picture, hit 823 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 8: your haircut. 824 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 2: Apparently I saw that they used a ton of mustard 825 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: on that. You sure did. It's terrible. Twenty one members 826 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 2: never used mustard on a hot dog. It's a terrible idea. 827 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 5: The name GLIZZI I thought we tired at some point. 828 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess it's kind of new. I 829 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 8: thought it was maybe an old term, but. 830 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: It is kind of older. Actually, it's a few years. 831 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: People in New Jersey have been saying it for a 832 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: long time. Interesting. 833 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 8: Yeah, guys, I don't know if you've got a chance 834 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 8: to watch it. But an impressive weekend for the R 835 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 8: rated horror movie Weapons debut at forty two and a 836 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 8: half million, beaten out Freak Your Friday, which had a 837 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 8: twenty nine million dollar opening. 838 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: Go see Weapons. Great movie if you can get a chance. 839 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: And then a happy birthday to Hult Cogan. 840 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 8: Obviously rest in Peace Holky would have been seventy two today. 841 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 842 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I know Justin Cooper, who's Ben Maller's producer, saw Weapons, 843 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: and so that was pretty crazy. 844 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: Two thumbs up. Alright, good stuff, good hanging with you, 845 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: Jeff and the crew. Love you. Guys have a good day.