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Speaker 1: the game that you just watched, the Cincinnati Bengals run
Speaker 1: their record to four and eight thanks to a thirty
Speaker 1: two to fourteenth victory over the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore dropped
Speaker 1: it six and six. This was a game that the
Speaker 1: Bengals at what needed they must have in order to
Speaker 1: keep their slim playoff hopes alive. They know the only
Speaker 1: way they're gonna probably get into the playoffs is if
Speaker 1: they win the AFC North, and right now they're two
Speaker 1: games behind of the Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens, but
Speaker 1: they're very much in it because they still have the
Speaker 1: Steelers and the Ravens on their schedule again. So if
Speaker 1: they continue to win and hope, hope for some good luck,
Speaker 1: good things can possibly happen. But the Bengals tonight defensively
Speaker 1: with as good a game that you've seen them play
Speaker 1: in the last two years. Five takeaways, they pressure Lamar
Speaker 1: Lamar with seventeen to thirty two two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: six yards an exception, and they forced four fumbles five
Speaker 1: total turnovers. The Bengals defense was sensational. Chase was chased
Speaker 1: fourteen targets, they had seven catches for a buck ten
Speaker 1: but I thought Tinsley stepped up all those guys stepped
Speaker 1: up in the absence of t Higgins. It was a
Speaker 1: very disappointing game for the Baltimore Ravens. They knew in
Speaker 1: order to have the chance to win this division of
Speaker 1: this steer is an outside chance. But they did not
Speaker 1: play their best game, and we're gonna dive into it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wait till Ocho.
Speaker 2: Can log on.
Speaker 1: But Lamar didn't play well tonight, and we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about let's go and get this side the way in
Speaker 1: the game the Buffalo Bills lost, especially the thirty to
Speaker 1: nothing game they lost to the Foulcons I think, and
Speaker 1: I think they lost another game to the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't play well in those ball games. He
Speaker 1: turned the ball over and that's not good enough for
Speaker 1: them to win. We've got that aside. So now when
Speaker 1: we address Lamar Jackson, we don't want to hear what
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen because we don't do that with any
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. When Tua plays bad, we don't say, well,
Speaker 1: what about CJ. Strid, what about Jordan Love? We don't
Speaker 1: do that. We only do that with Lamar Jackson. So
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that tonight. Lamar Jackson is a
Speaker 1: two time league MVP. He's a multiple time All Pro
Speaker 1: and a Pro Bowl player, and he was once voted
Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL by his peers. That
Speaker 1: can never be taken away. But we're gonna address Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson tonight and only tonight. We're not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: what he did next week. We're not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: what he did in the previous game. We're only gonna
Speaker 1: dress tonight, and we're not talking about Josh Allen. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about any other quarterback. We're gonna address Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson because I know chat what y'all try to do
Speaker 1: when you're not that hard, you don't. Yes we are,
Speaker 1: Yes we are. When Josh Allen played bad, we kill
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. When Dak played bad, we jump on that.
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do tonight, Lamar Jackson didn't play
Speaker 1: well and we're gonna address it as such.
Speaker 2: He close.
Speaker 1: But let's take the Bengals at first. We're waiting for
Speaker 1: Ocho to get logged on. He was at the game
Speaker 1: tonight and kind of got caught up in some traffic,
Speaker 1: and so we're hopefully he can get to us in
Speaker 1: the next couple of minutes. His cameras already set up
Speaker 1: in his room before he left, So we're hoping Ojo
Speaker 1: can join us real soon. But Joe Burrow six two
Speaker 1: sixty one, two touchdowns, no interceptions, only got sacked once.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball, okay tonight, I thought Chase Brown
Speaker 1: ran the ball extremely hard tonight. Fifteen carres for seventy
Speaker 1: eight yards. Pe Ryan, Uh, minus that one fumbler that
Speaker 1: Pee Ryan had.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They they they played really really well. That was really
Speaker 1: the only hiccup in the game. But that defense, the
Speaker 1: defense was this was the best in the last two
Speaker 1: years that we've seen this defense play. And we know
Speaker 1: what they have. Offensively, they got one of the better
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. They got the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: in the league. Offensive line is vastly improved. They played well,
Speaker 1: played well tonight. They don't have the greatest running game,
Speaker 1: but Chase Brown ran hard tonight. He and p Ryan
Speaker 1: combined they ran for over one hundred yards. But when
Speaker 1: you get your defense like this, Baltimore got the ball,
Speaker 1: goes right down the field and scores a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: after that that defense said, no, not tonight, not tonight.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson misthrows. Yes, Isaiah likely, Bro, you get the
Speaker 1: same amount of points whether you go in with the
Speaker 1: ball took up on the arm or you're getting ready
Speaker 1: to raise it. It looked like to me, Chad now you
Speaker 1: can see you can you sorry for yourself that he
Speaker 1: was getting ready to put the ball in his right
Speaker 1: hand and raise it when the guy chopped him and
Speaker 1: the ball went out of his hand and goes out
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone. Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: say that's a silly rule. How does somebody how do
Speaker 1: you get that's an ultimate punish because it's not like
Speaker 1: you recovered the ball. But that's the rule, and until
Speaker 1: they change it, there's nothing we can do about it.
Speaker 1: Lamar got pressure to give them, to give them an
Speaker 1: easy field goal. Even though the defense bowled their bats
Speaker 1: and kept them out of the end zone. They got
Speaker 1: three points out of that. Zay Flowers, Bro, you gotta
Speaker 1: hold on to the ball. I know you're frustrated, you're
Speaker 1: trying to make plays, but you gotta hold onto the football.
Speaker 2: Lamar wasn't sharp tonight. Chat.
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking news to any y'ally. We're not trying
Speaker 1: to beat up on Lamar Jackson. But you saw it,
Speaker 1: and it's okay to say, you know what, Lamar didn't play.
Speaker 1: Our best player did not play well tonight, and we
Speaker 1: didn't give ourselves the best chance of winning. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta give some credit to Cincinnati because that is
Speaker 1: the best defense that we've seen them play all year.
Speaker 2: But Lamar didn't play well.
Speaker 1: Chad Baltimore Ravens fans, Lamar Jackson fans, it is okay
Speaker 1: to admit Lamar Jackson did not play well tonight. And
Speaker 1: we're not talking about him. He's a two time league MVP.
Speaker 1: No matter how bad he plays tonight or in the future.
Speaker 1: You can't undo that. All those Pro Bowls and all
Speaker 1: those perfect ratings that he's had, you can't undo that.
Speaker 1: But talking about what we saw tonight is not good
Speaker 1: enough in order for the Ravens to go very far
Speaker 1: or even make the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs if Lamar plays like this.
Speaker 1: And I said before we talked about this the other night,
Speaker 1: I said, Ojo, they're winning games, but Lamar has been
Speaker 1: He's he's not been accurate. He's missing some throws and
Speaker 1: he missed some throws tonight. But I don't I think
Speaker 1: you had more to do with Cincinnati and the way
Speaker 1: the Bengals did play as opposed to Ravens are the
Speaker 1: whole offensively and defensively, but Lamar did not help their calls.
Speaker 2: You good to go on?
Speaker 3: Yo? What's so?
Speaker 1: Ho?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 4: You there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here, I'm here. I've been waiting on y'all night.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: What that do?
Speaker 5: How you how you feeling? I'm talked to you that
Speaker 5: you show? Hey, hey, hey, do men favorite do me
Speaker 5: in favor?
Speaker 4: Go ahead and get that go ahead and get.
Speaker 5: That Ravens stuff for Go ahead and get that Ravens
Speaker 5: stuff for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Were we ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 4: You want to make sure you ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 2: Have Yeah? We Ravens still flock? We still flock?
Speaker 4: Okay here Yeah, y'all flocking, y'all, y'all flocked out. That's
Speaker 4: what happened, y'all, y'all fluck. That's you said it just right,
Speaker 4: flock listen. I told you It's one thing. I told
Speaker 4: you right. There's a difference. There's a difference when one
Speaker 4: of the better quarterbacks in the league come back. He
Speaker 4: comes back to a team that has the best receiving
Speaker 4: in the league, as well, so the supporting clad played
Speaker 4: really well tonight, and I want to give I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give some players some credit tonight. Joseph Aside, hell of
Speaker 4: a job d Dre Turner, hell of a job tonight.
Speaker 4: The offensive line, and it's an entire team. Hell of
Speaker 4: a job tonight.
Speaker 2: Helpim a job.
Speaker 4: Offensive line, the goddamn defense being able to create the turnovers.
Speaker 4: I think the Ravens tonight had the most turnovers then
Speaker 4: they've had all goddamn season long, and one goddamn game
Speaker 4: and one goddamn game.
Speaker 5: So obviously for one turnover you pay.
Speaker 4: Double for that for two, three, four and five.
Speaker 5: It ain't no way. You can't win games that way.
Speaker 5: You can't win game that way.
Speaker 4: I don't really want to talk about the Ravens offensively
Speaker 4: or defensively.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna talk about Lamar. That's your job to do.
Speaker 4: I'm here to boast and brag about my goddamn bak
Speaker 4: told you it was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 5: I said, hey, listen to you.
Speaker 4: I told you and butter butter y ass better be
Speaker 4: in the goddamn chat too, Budda, because you.
Speaker 5: Were talking about that trash about about.
Speaker 4: We've got to play the Chiefs, We've got to play
Speaker 4: the Bills, and we just happened to be on the schedule.
Speaker 4: So you just circle that as a win. Now, what
Speaker 4: you got to say? Now, huh, listen, listen our Let
Speaker 4: me say one thing too, one thing. This is my
Speaker 4: first time at m n T Bank Stadium in a
Speaker 4: very long time. And now I know, I come on here,
Speaker 4: I play a lot, I talk a lot of trash,
Speaker 4: but I've always been respectful and them people, them people,
Speaker 4: the Ravens fans in that stadium. Huh man, pure class,
Speaker 4: you hear me, Pure class, pure I mean pure class.
Speaker 5: I mean the welcoming being.
Speaker 4: In obviously I'm not a Raven at all, but the
Speaker 4: welcoming in the graciousness that they showed a young bull
Speaker 4: like myself because of the love I've always showed throughout
Speaker 4: the years. I just want to I just want to
Speaker 4: say that, man, to the Raven fans that I saw.
Speaker 5: Tonight, those that meant tonight.
Speaker 4: You know, as I as I went throughout the stadium,
Speaker 4: you know, uh, field side, and I salute y'all and
Speaker 4: and and good luck the rest of the season. But
Speaker 4: y'all showed major love tonight. Now back to my ship talking.
Speaker 4: Now we put built the ass.
Speaker 5: Now we put and.
Speaker 4: I told you I don't want to hear you say
Speaker 4: foot on ball the rest of you know what that
Speaker 4: they you know, they knocking on the hotel room talking.
Speaker 4: I'm talking to low. I don't care if they might
Speaker 4: have to send the police.
Speaker 2: To night because I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4: I'm not even tripping. Oh my goodness, I felt good.
Speaker 4: Did you see Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2: I saw jo Hey.
Speaker 1: He was off a little bit, o Joe, because you
Speaker 1: made the first half with the first time I think
Speaker 1: in his career that he was under fifty percent because
Speaker 1: he was twelve or twenty six. But he got he
Speaker 1: got going in the second half. He was just off,
Speaker 1: just just a tad.
Speaker 2: But look that defense.
Speaker 1: That was how you guys won the game because you
Speaker 1: took a turn, you took a touchdown off the board
Speaker 1: from likely by stripping him. Now, it looked like to me, oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the chat saw something different, but
Speaker 1: it looked like he was about to go into the
Speaker 1: he wanted to raise the ball up as he was
Speaker 1: going into the end zone, and they chopped his own and.
Speaker 5: I think I think he was losing control of it.
Speaker 4: And if you if he was getting raise his arm,
Speaker 4: I think he might have been trying to raise it
Speaker 4: to get it, get it away from the person that
Speaker 4: was on his inside that he could actually see. He
Speaker 4: didn't see.
Speaker 1: He didn't see that reason yea. So he just saw
Speaker 1: he knows somebody. He saw that person coming from this side,
Speaker 1: so he was getting ready to switch switch hands and
Speaker 1: your person rat that coming inside out, that chopped it
Speaker 1: and the ball goes down.
Speaker 2: Lamar fumble, uh aside. I think that's how you pronounced
Speaker 2: his Joseph.
Speaker 1: He did a great job of causing the pressure, got
Speaker 1: a sack, and the guy catches it right out the air.
Speaker 1: That Baltimore defense bowled their back. They didn't let him
Speaker 1: in the end zone for the longest time. The Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens defense held and held and hell because I think
Speaker 1: since it was like zero for three in the red
Speaker 1: zone and they turned them over on downs.
Speaker 2: But the Ravens offense could not get on track.
Speaker 1: Mainly that offense goals as Lamar Jackson goes Lamar didn't
Speaker 1: play well tonight, Ojo, right.
Speaker 4: He didn't play well tonight. But also I want you
Speaker 4: to remember what you said about my defense. I want
Speaker 4: you to remember what you said about my play good.
Speaker 4: We couldn't stop nothing, we would last in the league
Speaker 4: and all this and all these categories statistically and how
Speaker 4: bad we are and how bad we've been in you know,
Speaker 4: after the season, but all that matters.
Speaker 5: It's a nice game. And I told you every game,
Speaker 5: every game is week the week, it's any given Sunday.
Speaker 4: You never know what's gonna happen, regardless of how bad
Speaker 4: a team may be statistically and whatever category they may
Speaker 4: be in. And in games like this the night, why
Speaker 4: we're so confident. That's why I was so confident. And
Speaker 4: IVEN know I both not talk my trash, but it's
Speaker 4: one thing about the NFL that I understand and playing
Speaker 4: the game for a very long time, even if you
Speaker 4: dominate in certain areas, there's always a game where for
Speaker 4: some reason, even the team that's bad, they play well.
Speaker 4: The matchups, the personnel, I mean, whatever.
Speaker 5: It may be.
Speaker 4: And the turnovers obviously helped a little bit outside.
Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 4: Because if he won no turnover, were still would have
Speaker 4: we still would have been talking. You wouldn't he would
Speaker 4: have been a lot closer.
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, how many games y'all won
Speaker 1: this year when y'all didn't create turnovers?
Speaker 4: Here you go, here you go? You were you see,
Speaker 4: we don't. We don't want to talk about how we
Speaker 4: talked about tonight.
Speaker 2: We talked we got five turnovers? How many teams we saw?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: We saw Detroit without high powered offense turned the ball
Speaker 1: over against the Commanders last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: And what happened? You know you're not winning no game
Speaker 2: you turned the ball over five times?
Speaker 4: Hey, let me tell you something. Let me hear I
Speaker 4: hear everything you talk about, right. I don't want we
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. I don't want to hear nobody last year.
Speaker 4: I want about the night's game. I want I want
Speaker 4: to about the night game where the Cincinnati Bangals. But
Speaker 4: beilt ass, you did, yes, we did.
Speaker 2: But let's not look.
Speaker 1: You guys did what you needed to do to keep
Speaker 1: your slim playoff hopes alive.
Speaker 2: Slim created turnover.
Speaker 4: Oh so you're still talking spicy on? You do know
Speaker 4: we home?
Speaker 1: You do know we go to.
Speaker 5: Buffalo next week?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: You play Buffalo?
Speaker 2: You know who got to come right back there to
Speaker 2: follow on me, Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so if min your mouth and min your
Speaker 4: tongue before you put him in the hole again, and
Speaker 4: y'all lose again, and then we be at the and
Speaker 4: we be at the top of the gay.
Speaker 1: I ain't worried about that, because I already know Buffalo
Speaker 1: gonna put belt down, So I ain't who.
Speaker 2: I ain't even worried about that.
Speaker 4: You said the same thing about Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I ain't worried about that.
Speaker 4: You said the same thing about Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baltim I didn't. I didn't expect you guys defensively
Speaker 1: to play this well. And I damn sure didn't expect
Speaker 1: Lamar to play this bad. So it was a combination
Speaker 1: of one playing good and the other playing bad. Your
Speaker 1: defense played exemplary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can I tell you something, Yes, the thing, this
Speaker 5: is a good thing for us.
Speaker 4: You know, as a fan of not just the Mangles,
Speaker 4: but as a fan of the game of football in general,
Speaker 4: you know what carries over week the week when you
Speaker 4: play well.
Speaker 5: It's called momentum.
Speaker 4: It's called momentum, and defensive ye see that momentum of
Speaker 4: that confidence is gonna carry us right on over the Buffalo.
Speaker 4: He's gonna carry us right on over the Buffalo and
Speaker 4: then hold on, we get Ti Higgins back next week.
Speaker 4: Mitchell Tinsley played well. Yoshi played well tonight. You know,
Speaker 4: God damn God damn Tanner caught him a touch that
Speaker 4: little one.
Speaker 1: Hand to you can't play it anybody that what happened
Speaker 1: to that had him played? He made a great cat.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, that was beautiful defense. That was, yes, But
Speaker 4: one thing about beautiful defense. The only thing that can
Speaker 4: spoil that is a perfect throat yes throw, and that's
Speaker 4: what that was.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: Who else Yoshi played well? You know, Jamar Chase came back.
Speaker 4: He came back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure I'm need catch yet, but.
Speaker 1: He had over one hundred yeah, seven fourteen targets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come on now we were talking about, we
Speaker 4: know what, one game suspension and then they got to
Speaker 4: deal with that. Boy, that and Buffalo and Ti Higgins
Speaker 4: come back and the defense playing with that kind of
Speaker 4: that kind of momentum going into next week. Man, we
Speaker 4: don't see Josh Allen, we don't see that. And no
Speaker 4: disrespecting them, boy, Davis Ward, now, I mean not you, Davis.
Speaker 4: That with my dog last name man.
Speaker 2: White, Dave is White.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's my boy, that's my He was playing some
Speaker 4: good balls since he came off that the killis tell
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm excited for him. I'm excited for that matchup.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait to see that. I understand, we
Speaker 4: understand the greatness of Josh Allen and his supporting the cast,
Speaker 4: you know, Shakira and them boys. Man, But hey, man,
Speaker 4: we don't man, we don't even see it. We don't
Speaker 4: even see it, you know. I know they just said
Speaker 4: Brandon Cook's too. We won't even won't even see you either,
Speaker 4: we be cooking. We don't even see nothing, Nick Daniel,
Speaker 4: And I told I told Eric Ball, you know Eric Ball, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I told everybody, say listen, Eric uh, y'all get me
Speaker 4: a sideline pass the Buffalo police. I don't care how
Speaker 4: cold it is. I don't care. You see, I was
Speaker 4: a good love charm for the night.
Speaker 5: I was a good luck charm for.
Speaker 4: The night because i'men talking to trash about us all
Speaker 4: week and about what we was gonna do to the
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens in a respectful way. Now, in a respectful way.
Speaker 4: As you can see, I've been showing grace and respect.
Speaker 4: While I've been talking trash, no no cursing out no
Speaker 4: no no, no, no, no being.
Speaker 1: You've been saying how many times you don't say it?
Speaker 1: But ass how many times you don't said? I told
Speaker 1: you what we was gonna do.
Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm doing That's a that's a respectful manner
Speaker 4: as opposed.
Speaker 2: To the way other people know you was cursing early on.
Speaker 5: I know I'm cursing.
Speaker 4: The add emphasis, the add inmphasis, like when you cook
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving dinner, you add season to your food. That's what
Speaker 4: cursing does for me. It's I call it a centence
Speaker 4: en handsome. That's all I mean. No, no disrespect, you
Speaker 4: know I do this. This is with all love and respect.
Speaker 4: They're all my Ravens fans. Let me boast, Let let
Speaker 4: me feel good about myself. And Butter, don't you try
Speaker 4: to hide on Twitter either, Butter you but hey, you
Speaker 4: met buddy, and you.
Speaker 2: Met buddy at huh uh huh.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah you gotta you got you got to see
Speaker 4: it all is Twitter, man, It's it's lovely. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about all things Ravens. Of course, he does other content
Speaker 4: related to football and basketball. And stuff. He mad really
Speaker 4: good dude, really good dude. So he been talking trash too,
Speaker 4: So that's why I keep calling his name. Butter, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna see you in a minute. I hope you in
Speaker 4: the goddamned chat anyone else has the raven fans. I
Speaker 4: say this with all the respect and love. We the
Speaker 4: game to night, and I'm gonna see you all in
Speaker 4: two weeks. We won the game to night, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna see all in two weeks.
Speaker 2: I'm also confused by the Ravens game plan. Dereck Henry.
Speaker 1: No, Derick Henry breaks off the long run for the touchdown,
Speaker 1: and I don't really see him until late third the
Speaker 1: beginning of the third quarter, And because I see Mitchell
Speaker 1: and I see everybody else running the football except Dearick Henry,
Speaker 1: maybe I missed it.
Speaker 5: I mean, we were we were good.
Speaker 4: We were doing a good job of containing Derrick Henry
Speaker 4: most of the night outside excuse me, outside of that
Speaker 4: long run though.
Speaker 1: I mean, but he had ten carries for sixty yards.
Speaker 1: He's averages six yards of carry. Yeah, so even if
Speaker 1: you take even if you take so he had thirty
Speaker 1: two yards or nine carriages, I think, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know how he is.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that the more can't touches you give him,
Speaker 1: the harder, the harder you run.
Speaker 2: I'm also confused.
Speaker 1: They they the Bengals come with a zero blitzes and
Speaker 1: you called you got an end break the right call,
Speaker 1: you take the top off it. You had to know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be zero blitz because you max protected it.
Speaker 2: Why else would you check to a max.
Speaker 1: Protection if you're not thinking of zero a bomb bliz
Speaker 1: and then I run Zave Flowers.
Speaker 2: On on on on a dagger route.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you run him on a dagger route and
Speaker 1: there's nobody in the middle of the field.
Speaker 4: You know, you know it's funny too him that that's
Speaker 4: universal for every team because whenever it's zero blizz for us. Yeah,
Speaker 4: safety that that safety that in that back of was coming. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had a slint. Now it's up to the quarterback
Speaker 4: to say, listen, I'm gonna hold the goddamn ball.
Speaker 5: One more tick, I'm gonna get killed. But change it
Speaker 5: right up and just go.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got the whole field to work with.
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, because there's nothing back there, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: the goddamn DB's in no man's land. But that that's
Speaker 4: that's something that offers the cordator has to agree with
Speaker 4: because that can you hold that ball too long, you
Speaker 4: get Lamark killed.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, tho you already in gun, you
Speaker 2: can retreat.
Speaker 1: It's not like it used to be back in the
Speaker 1: day when you un the center and you check it
Speaker 1: and you had to back. You already away from the center,
Speaker 1: so you already got distance between you and the nearest rusher.
Speaker 1: Now when you retreat, you could just keep retreating and
Speaker 1: put it up because you got worried about knowing the
Speaker 1: safety or anybody from backside coming into place. You can
Speaker 1: run him on the gold, you can run him on
Speaker 1: a post, cross his face whatever. Anytime we saw zero
Speaker 1: blinz and they checked the coverage, hey, several would always
Speaker 1: say take the top off, take the top off, okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I'm looking like, bro, what are
Speaker 1: y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Why would you run a dagger round?
Speaker 1: Why would you run a route against zero coverage for
Speaker 1: a fifteen to twenty yard completion when you can have
Speaker 1: a forty yard touchdown. It just made no sense to me.
Speaker 1: You were back, but the whole game planned tonight and
Speaker 1: maybe they had more to do with Cincinnati and how
Speaker 1: they got after Lamar and how they did after that
Speaker 1: long run. You're right, oh, Joe did it. Mitchell had
Speaker 1: an eighteen yard run. Lamar had a level yard scramble.
Speaker 1: But if just the turnover, you're not overcoming that because
Speaker 1: we already know the Ravens defense is not four to
Speaker 1: five like it used to be. And they did a
Speaker 1: great job for the most part, o Joe, because they
Speaker 1: kept them out of the end zone. But you could
Speaker 1: only do that for so long. Yeah, before you know what,
Speaker 1: the levee burst and then now here come.
Speaker 4: It was a rap and the funny thing too. Only
Speaker 4: you got to remember those that in the chat that
Speaker 4: are listening. You have to remember when it comes to
Speaker 4: these division games. You know you know each other very well.
Speaker 4: You understand the tendencies and what you like to do
Speaker 4: on based on down and distance, and you know for
Speaker 4: Mason recognition. Even though you try to you try to
Speaker 4: change things up to make it look different, but the
Speaker 4: bulk of what your offense is is what your offense is.
Speaker 4: Regardless of what you line up in your chances of
Speaker 4: doing the same thing over and over repeatedly based on
Speaker 4: what you know and what you like to do.
Speaker 5: It always stayed the same.
Speaker 4: The only thing that changes is the formations and where
Speaker 4: the ball is, whether it's in the in the middle,
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field or the left hand
Speaker 4: to the right hash But what you like to do
Speaker 4: will always be your offense. Which is why I think,
Speaker 4: hypothetically speaking, if there weren't five.
Speaker 5: Turnovers, this game would have been extremely close.
Speaker 4: It would have come down to the team of the
Speaker 4: quarterback that makes the fewer mistakes.
Speaker 1: How it comes down when we got even in match teams,
Speaker 1: because it's not like the Ravens defense of world beaters
Speaker 1: this year, Oh Joe, like they have in years past.
Speaker 1: Last year they were okay, but they weren't great. This
Speaker 1: year they've really fallen off. I'm looking at I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Marlon Humphrey and their coverage, their times. He's getting
Speaker 1: beat by tight End, He's getting beat by Gasiki. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not even close. They're running. They're running like they're
Speaker 1: running like five and he's underneath and he's not even close.
Speaker 2: To Chase and he got help over the top. I mean,
Speaker 2: guys are like, I'm like.
Speaker 4: What is I think I know you're talking about when
Speaker 4: they were doubling. They were running, yes, yes, inside, yes,
Speaker 4: trying to inside.
Speaker 2: They're not even the underneath, guys, not even close yet.
Speaker 5: That's what the weak spot is.
Speaker 4: The weak spot is exactly the the I call it
Speaker 4: hard seven, yes, but it is because the goddamn safety
Speaker 4: has to stay over top and the corner has underneath.
Speaker 2: Right, what do you do?
Speaker 4: You split? You split the gap and run run the
Speaker 4: deep out?
Speaker 1: But hold on, O Joe, where you going. You ain't
Speaker 1: worried about him beating you deep? So all I gotta do.
Speaker 1: I'm playing up underneath. I mean you hell pocket you
Speaker 1: jump inside? Yeah, So now I'm just in the trail position.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do, I'm there. He wasn't even They weren't even.
Speaker 5: Close because he was gay. He was banking on him
Speaker 5: running that goddamn dig.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, Maybe you're right. I'm just like bro.
Speaker 1: They just like that defense. They need a lot to
Speaker 1: be the They left a lot to be desired tonight,
Speaker 1: even more so than normal. But when your offense, when
Speaker 1: your offense turns the ball over four times, five times,
Speaker 1: it makes the defense look even worse than what they play.
Speaker 1: Because I don't think they played bad tonight, given the
Speaker 1: position that the offense put him in. The offense put
Speaker 1: him in some terrible positions, really really bad positions, and
Speaker 1: they held him the field goals for the lock what
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 2: They made him kick four field goals in the first half,
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they gave up fourteen in the third quarter.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And that that had me nervous. That had me nervous.
Speaker 4: The fact that we were able to drive the bass away.
Speaker 4: I'm like, but god, damn, Joe, Joe, Joe, you cooking.
Speaker 4: And I talked. I talked to Joe. I think it
Speaker 4: might have been early early in the fourth quarter. You know,
Speaker 4: they they had switch sides and all right, I say, Joe, what,
Speaker 4: but do you realize what you're doing right now? You see,
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm cooking? He said, Nah, No, I'm
Speaker 4: not playing like I should.
Speaker 2: Oh, but god damn, Joe. Well you off that long?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're I mean, he looked good on some throws,
Speaker 1: but you got to realize he's been off for ten weeks,
Speaker 1: eleven weeks, and to come back it'll take him some time.
Speaker 2: Probably by the third game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you'll get his.
Speaker 1: Time in his spidy senses of start Tingling. He did
Speaker 1: a great job of moving mind, creating time and finding guys.
Speaker 1: I thought the guys, I thought the guy offensively, they
Speaker 1: played really well. I think, you know, later in the
Speaker 1: ball game on you, I thought they got really conservative.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, a field goal, a field goal,
Speaker 1: A field goal is good here. We don't need to
Speaker 1: take any unnecessary risk.
Speaker 4: I understand that, but why does every team do that?
Speaker 4: And listen, let's let's make a statement. Let's make a statement,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, listen. I told to Zach Tanner
Speaker 4: going into the tunnel after the game, and like, Zach,
Speaker 4: great game. I love it. I'm a cee in Buffalo.
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking to myself on the sideline, it's five
Speaker 4: minutes ago. We have a chance to score. We inside
Speaker 4: the twenty, wee in the red zone.
Speaker 2: Let's run the ball. You run the ball, y'all? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And hold on And then we run the ball purposely
Speaker 4: in the A in the B gap, knowing you ain't
Speaker 4: gonna go nowhere.
Speaker 5: You knowing you're not gonna go nowhere, Like what's the points?
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. I saw that.
Speaker 1: And I think he's thinking, like, you know what, as
Speaker 1: long as long as we don't get to give a
Speaker 1: turnover or get a Scooper score a pick six, they
Speaker 1: can't move to go against the way our defense is
Speaker 1: playing tonight. Uh, you know he got pressure. They were
Speaker 1: they were, They pressured the hell out of Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: more than normally.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He had h on the interception that night.
Speaker 1: Got he had Mark Andrews coming wide ass open, but
Speaker 1: likely caught the dbat the d Lina pushed him back,
Speaker 1: got his head up and got tipped and and you
Speaker 1: know that end of the drive right there. But I think,
Speaker 1: but you know, Lamar didn't play well. We could attested,
Speaker 1: we can say that, but I think it might have
Speaker 1: had more to do with since his defense than he
Speaker 1: eating too much or him not him still him still
Speaker 1: not recover from that hamstring.
Speaker 4: And and and another thing. Another thing. I know some
Speaker 4: I know some my homeboys down in Cincinnati washing it.
Speaker 4: I know we have a lot of Cincinnati fans that
Speaker 4: in the chat as well. I want I want y'all
Speaker 4: to to congratulate and and and be and be boisterous,
Speaker 4: the same way you guys want Zach Taylor fired and
Speaker 4: you complain about Al Golden. This is the game I
Speaker 4: want you all to praise him just as loud as
Speaker 4: the disrespect was when things weren't going well. So I
Speaker 4: need to clasp for need to collapse for Zach Taylor,
Speaker 4: and you're clapped by our golden and his defensive play
Speaker 4: calling tonight and what Zach was able to do with
Speaker 4: us offensively because we put b to a huhel.
Speaker 1: He did y'all? Did I mean? You know, hey, there's
Speaker 1: nothing you know. I'm sure they're rejoicing in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 1: don't have to eat killing you. They could eat turkey
Speaker 1: and dressing.
Speaker 5: Hey, can you can you do them a favorite?
Speaker 2: Can you?
Speaker 4: Can you apologize for the disrespect?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 2: Y'all still four.
Speaker 4: And eight, so so you're not gonna apologize?
Speaker 2: No, what's the Broncos record?
Speaker 4: Who oh no, don't do that on I got team, got.
Speaker 2: Two teams?
Speaker 4: Oh, hold on your team, don't play till Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're still not too so, hey, you need you.
Speaker 4: Need to focus.
Speaker 5: You got to focus now?
Speaker 2: And then what do we do to y'all? Did we
Speaker 2: put belt? Did we put belt? Y'all?
Speaker 5: Hold on, young fellow, hold on, young fellow.
Speaker 4: Let's focus your team and don't forget we had we
Speaker 4: had Jake Brown and playing right, If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: we played y'all.
Speaker 2: We y'all had Jake from State Farm.
Speaker 4: We still go put ba, are we if Joe, if
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was playing, you guys would have lost that game.
Speaker 4: Let's let's stop that.
Speaker 2: Let's know that defense of relentless, that's a defense we
Speaker 2: come get you.
Speaker 4: I mean you, you being the defense that religious We
Speaker 4: still have a top three quarterback in the NFL when
Speaker 4: you when you're playing against us.
Speaker 1: Now made it even better when we put him on
Speaker 1: the ground like six or seven times.
Speaker 5: He wasn't available. He wasn't available.
Speaker 4: Good thing, you know, don't worry about it. We'll see
Speaker 4: all the two weeks. And the fact that the fact
Speaker 4: that you don't want to apologize. I'm say something of
Speaker 4: Grandma used to say in church all the time, every tone.
Speaker 5: That rise and talked.
Speaker 4: You know what, I ain't gonna say the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I ain't ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say the
Speaker 4: whole thing. Hey chat, I'm glad y'all here.
Speaker 5: I appreciate y'all for showing up.
Speaker 4: I'm sure all of y'all are probably rooting for the
Speaker 4: Bengals right now, and I love y'all and thank you
Speaker 4: for the support. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: On the third card of the night, Derrick Henry passed
Speaker 1: NFL legend Jim Brown all the all time career rushing list.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, so congratulations. Uh, I think he's number eleven
Speaker 1: right now. Right, he's almost in the top ten all time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how many how many more years you think he
Speaker 4: can play?
Speaker 2: Well, he ain't catching him, so he didn't play that
Speaker 2: many more years.
Speaker 4: They would have to, they would have to be a
Speaker 4: buddy buddy system for anybody to catch emm Smith or
Speaker 4: catching Frank Gore.
Speaker 5: Who's number two?
Speaker 2: Frank Gore?
Speaker 5: Wait, I thought I thought Frank was three. Who's two?
Speaker 2: Frank Gore? Sixteen thousand?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Walter got sixteen thousand, eight hundred, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, then Frank Gore.
Speaker 4: You God damn Walter Peyton got sixteen thousand. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Frank Gore got sixteen thousand, and then it's Barry fourth
Speaker 1: of field.
Speaker 2: Who can somebody else? Did anybody pass back? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So he got he got an outside chance of catching
Speaker 1: Tony d because I think Tony dors Say got like
Speaker 1: twelve thousand, seven hundred, So he's a half an outside
Speaker 1: chance of catching him this year, right, Yeah, he's only
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Think people understand to be able to get the sixteen
Speaker 4: thousand yards how long you have to play and how
Speaker 4: much wear and tear that is.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a runner back's body.
Speaker 1: And when you consider all the carries that he had
Speaker 1: in high school, all the carries that he had in college,
Speaker 1: and all the carries that he's had now, yeah, in
Speaker 1: the NFL, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Nobody not even in it.
Speaker 1: With all the yards he has has had as many
Speaker 1: carries as Derrick Henry. So for Henry to be playing
Speaker 1: as well as he's playing with damn near five thousand
Speaker 1: carries in high school, another twenty five hundred in college,
Speaker 1: and now you probably got another twenty twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: in the NFL.
Speaker 4: And you know what, for the most part of his
Speaker 4: career too, just as many carries. He's been healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except for that one that one year, that one year, yeah,
Speaker 1: that one time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been healthy. Oh that's dope. Man.
Speaker 2: Gratulations there, Henry.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The Bengals remaining schedule at Bills Ravens at home at Dolphins, Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and Browns at home.
Speaker 2: So things to look at it. But the game the
Speaker 2: Bills is the game. O yoe. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think you guys can make it if you
Speaker 2: don't beat the Bills.
Speaker 4: What you mean? But if we win the division, the Bills.
Speaker 1: They don't think. But here's the thing, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Hold on who the Pittsburgh play tomorrow, because I think what.
Speaker 5: You got foreign Tomorrow's Friday.
Speaker 1: I mean Sunday, Sunday. Okay, still, Stealers play the Bills.
Speaker 1: So you better you better be rooting for the You
Speaker 1: better be rooting for the Bills. Yeah, yeah, you better
Speaker 1: be rooted for the Bills.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Steelers
Speaker 4: have lost the last two, right, the Stellers have lost
Speaker 4: the last two. You know what, they probably not gonna
Speaker 4: lose to the Bills. They probably they probably not gonna
Speaker 4: lose to the Bills. It's I don't understand. I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is. It's just about the football, guys,
Speaker 4: and the way football all works. I don't know what
Speaker 4: it is. And now I guarantee you check listen to me.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you. I'm not saying that that the Steelers
Speaker 4: are just that good, but just the way the game
Speaker 4: of football is just the way it goes. I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you.
Speaker 4: The Stealers beat the Bills, I can feel.
Speaker 2: I just don't see that happening. Words that game in Pittsburgh, Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Oh I can't, I can't. I can't wait to talk
Speaker 5: about these.
Speaker 2: Huh it's in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean sure, he listen. Josh Ally could
Speaker 4: play home all way now. It don't matter where you
Speaker 4: at for sure, But I just think they have the
Speaker 4: home field advantage for some reason.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys beat the Kid thirty one, twenty eight.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have won three straight for the first time
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty three. Dak Prescott league leading for three
Speaker 1: hundred game yard game puts the Cowboys above five hundred
Speaker 1: for the first time since Week five of last season.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys and back to back beat weeks just beat
Speaker 1: both teams that were in the Super Bowl in a
Speaker 1: span of four days. Dak Prescott twenty seven to thirty nine,
Speaker 1: three twenty two touchdowns, one interception, Ceedee Lamb on nine targets,
Speaker 1: had seven catches, a buck twelve and a touchdown. George
Speaker 1: Pickens was his sensational self, although he did not get
Speaker 1: the ball into the end zone. He had six catches
Speaker 1: for eighty eight yards. Jake Ferguson had five for thirty six.
Speaker 1: Pickings did fumble, but Kevan Turpin jumped on it. I think, look,
Speaker 1: we understand the potency of the Cowboys offense, but today
Speaker 1: it was about the defense.
Speaker 2: Jadavian Clowney had two sacks.
Speaker 1: I thought they did a great job of putting pressure
Speaker 1: on Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Mahomes had to make some hell of a throws.
Speaker 1: Some of those throws like they're not a whole, They're
Speaker 1: not more than five quarterbacks that could have made some
Speaker 1: of those throws that Mahomes was making. One of the
Speaker 1: durest that in which he was under. So I think
Speaker 1: the biggest thing getting over shown back having really helped
Speaker 1: this defense because he can cover, he can come with pressure.
Speaker 2: He's a really good football player.
Speaker 1: And coming off the injury that he came off of
Speaker 1: last year and to come back and to be as
Speaker 1: as as disruptive as he is, Oh Joe, that that
Speaker 1: young man can play. He has a very very bright future.
Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott. There's only one quarterback that I can
Speaker 1: definitively say playing better than Dak Prescott, and that's Matthew Stafford. Oh,
Speaker 1: that is the only quarterback that I'm willing to say
Speaker 1: right now is definitively playing better than one Dakota Prescott
Speaker 1: is Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: Dak has been sensational last three games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a pick, got one pick, got some
Speaker 1: pressure in his face on his first drive. But other
Speaker 1: than that, he was sensational day, making throws, giving guys
Speaker 1: the opportunity to make plays.
Speaker 2: I thought he played unbelievable today. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And when you think about it too, I think most
Speaker 4: of the people, obviously punits and analysts, those that are
Speaker 4: supposed to be professionals and experts, all of them had
Speaker 4: the Chiefs to win. You know, mostly everybody had the
Speaker 4: Chiefs to win. But the funny thing of it is
Speaker 4: tonight's game with the Bengals and the Ravens. The one
Speaker 4: thing that stood out is what people nobody would guess.
Speaker 4: It was our defense. It was our defense that wants
Speaker 4: the game has always been a Kidnis Hill and the walls.
Speaker 5: For the Dallas Cowboys, it's been their defense. Yeah, we
Speaker 5: were able to do the defense look good.
Speaker 4: So those trades are starting to look good, you know,
Speaker 4: the Kenny Walker trade, the Quinn Waynems trade had getting
Speaker 4: Logan Wilson and collectively as a group in his totality
Speaker 4: of playing really good football, especially against not a Super
Speaker 4: Bowl winning team, a playoff team, a team that's always
Speaker 4: the contention every single year, despite them being five and
Speaker 4: five or five or six and five, whatever the record.
Speaker 4: Now the six and six they're not the same team
Speaker 4: of old obviously.
Speaker 2: No, and it's mainly on the defense side of football.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: They can't pressure the quarterback like they once could. Chris
Speaker 1: Jones is still a good player, but he can't dominate
Speaker 1: the game like he wants could. He takes and he tries,
Speaker 1: he makes to he he takes himself out of plays
Speaker 1: up around the block. And now that he hits a
Speaker 1: quick hitting play the safety of the feeling, now a
Speaker 1: running back hits his head on the goal post.
Speaker 2: There are far too many of those plays.
Speaker 1: If they bring pressure, now you now you isolate your
Speaker 1: secondary one on one. There are a lot of penalties
Speaker 1: called today. I mean, I mean, it's like seemed like
Speaker 1: every time Dak went back to pass. They were calling penalties. McDuffie.
Speaker 1: McDuffie just seemed tentative today to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's something wrong. Maybe it was just those guys
Speaker 1: putting the fear of God into a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He has, he's normally a willing, a willing, a willing tackler, tackler.
Speaker 2: I just didn't see it today.
Speaker 1: Ten penalties for a buck nineteen for the the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys had seven for fifty. There's only one turnover
Speaker 1: the game. The time of possession was very close, the
Speaker 1: total plays was close. Obviously Dallas had four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty seven yards almost one hundred more yards total drive.
Speaker 1: But the biggest different told yo, the chief couldn't get
Speaker 1: him off the field on third down Cowboys nine sixteen
Speaker 1: on third down, they got him a third down a bunch.
Speaker 2: They just couldn't get him off the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know also a lot of people a
Speaker 4: CD lamb, I see you, I see you cooking. That's
Speaker 4: what you do, that's what you do. Shot. He said, Listen,
Speaker 4: I don't care about what happened last game. I know
Speaker 4: the drops happened. You know it affected the game. We're
Speaker 4: gonna do everything we can to make sure he gets
Speaker 4: his confidence back, and we're gonna feed him. We're gonna
Speaker 4: feed him again. He had eleven targets. He caught nine
Speaker 4: in the Things Rhythm eleven cost seven. Oh my it
Speaker 4: was seven. Okay, my bad, My bad, bad, my bad. Hey,
Speaker 4: that guy, damn George Pickings.
Speaker 1: Man, he's phenomenal. If he has scored on that one.
Speaker 1: He heard of that guy. If he was scored on
Speaker 1: that one, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna turn the TV off here.
Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing. I would have to
Speaker 2: turn the TV off.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't need to see no more. I
Speaker 4: don't even to sew no more. He's a he's a
Speaker 4: top he's a top five talent, right, yes, top five talent.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: When he puts it all together, When he puts it
Speaker 4: all together and focuses on just the game itself, you
Speaker 4: can still have fun. You can still have that edge
Speaker 4: that makes you in the NFL. Young boy, you can
Speaker 4: still have that edge, but just just know what line
Speaker 4: not to cross and just teetering just a little bit.
Speaker 5: That's what you get. When he's been with the Cowboys
Speaker 5: so far.
Speaker 1: His catches, he's tremendous run after the catch. A big body.
Speaker 1: He's physical, he's focused.
Speaker 4: Now you know, you know it's funny you've seen him
Speaker 4: in person yet No man, the man every bit of
Speaker 4: six fold.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he looks television, he looks. He don't look
Speaker 1: like he don't look like like a Julio like he
Speaker 1: like that sign. But you can tell he's on the
Speaker 1: taller side.
Speaker 4: He tall, tall, tall as hell. So I mean just
Speaker 4: what he's able to do at his height, you know,
Speaker 4: as far as far as his route running, but what
Speaker 4: he's able to do when you get the goddamn ball
Speaker 4: in his hands.
Speaker 5: He ran a slant route. And I ain't see this
Speaker 5: a long time.
Speaker 4: Most of the time you see it in college because
Speaker 4: you know everyone is. It doesn't react as fast. You
Speaker 4: catch a slant and you reverse.
Speaker 1: Back out, peel out, peel back out.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: That doesn't happen in the NFL because people close the gaps, but.
Speaker 2: They hit them line and normal. But you're hitting you
Speaker 2: in the back of your head.
Speaker 5: Get one of the other. I'm like, man, this man,
Speaker 5: this man, I hit.
Speaker 1: Cut the fool, oh Joe, if you look at look
Speaker 1: at because I thought Kansas City offensively, I thought they
Speaker 1: they played well. Rashid wise dropped the q's third down
Speaker 1: and gave him the ball back. They end up because
Speaker 1: you know, they mahone had started to get a rhythm
Speaker 1: and they're making some plays and I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: that third down and we're talking about this same thing
Speaker 1: happening in Detroit with Jameson Williams. That's what it was
Speaker 1: a little tougher catch for Jamison cause with that kind
Speaker 1: of speed and.
Speaker 2: They throw that ball on your back hill, it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, but I thought Rashid Rice that drop on
Speaker 1: third down was huge. They end up having a punt
Speaker 1: and it gave it gave the Cowboys the ball back,
Speaker 1: and I think they end up getting a field goal
Speaker 1: out of if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. I didn't jot it down.
Speaker 1: But if you look at Kansas City defense chat and
Speaker 1: I think y'all, I think y'all agree, this is not
Speaker 1: the same defense because O yo, when they bring pressure,
Speaker 1: you sacrifice the back end. I mean, uh uh, George
Speaker 1: Pickings ran the same route slant, this corner is playing
Speaker 1: slightly outside. Why are you going for a head fake
Speaker 1: outside when you already out there oh Joe, you already,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you already splitting the difference.
Speaker 2: You already down. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know, the most of the times when it
Speaker 4: comes to depending on who the receiver is, the corner
Speaker 4: ain't going for that that the outside fake. But because
Speaker 4: it's pickings and what he's put on film so far,
Speaker 4: you fall him for the first move every time.
Speaker 2: Because you're not confident. Bingo, watch Stingley, watch those.
Speaker 1: That the first thing to do, how h yeah, they
Speaker 1: stabbing one way or the other.
Speaker 2: Ye to keep doing this right here right there.
Speaker 5: You ain't moving.
Speaker 2: You ain't gain no ground on Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned once you start to gain ground, once you
Speaker 1: close the cushion. But if I'm here, let's just say
Speaker 1: I line up two yards off you and Ojoe, you're
Speaker 1: doing all this, you hadn't gained any ground.
Speaker 2: At the right of the place.
Speaker 1: You will be tired, but you ain't got no, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna no, you ain't going nowhere. So once you
Speaker 1: start to come up field and try to close that cushion,
Speaker 1: I'm doing here.
Speaker 2: I'm going here. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the and the funny thing about it is, and
Speaker 4: most of the time, all of that, all that is
Speaker 4: I call I call it a feeling.
Speaker 5: I want to feel where you.
Speaker 4: At and and and continue to keep that distance between us,
Speaker 4: so it keeps me in position to make a play
Speaker 4: no matter what. Because if you can't close my cushion
Speaker 4: and you have to make you have to transition. I'm
Speaker 4: more in the position to make a play because I'm
Speaker 4: on the top side right if you in front of
Speaker 4: me or I'm trailing, Okay, now I'm in no man's
Speaker 4: laying damn near because I'm at your mercy.
Speaker 5: I'm at your mercy.
Speaker 4: But as long as they got eyes on you, and
Speaker 4: you in front of me, and my shoulders aren't turn up, feeling,
Speaker 4: I'm square.
Speaker 5: Oh shit, you dead in the water, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: If I'm a dB, you the wide receiver. I do
Speaker 1: this and I can't touch you, that means you haven't moved.
Speaker 1: So guess what. You haven't moved. You're not running nothing
Speaker 1: deep because the thing is in order for it the
Speaker 1: time up. You got to go in a hurry. You've
Speaker 1: got to be forty two and four and you not moving,
Speaker 1: that's gonna throw the timeing off. So once I do this,
Speaker 1: I don't touch you. I do this, I don't touch you, well,
Speaker 1: you ain't closed the cushions, so you're not going towhere.
Speaker 1: So you're running something quick underneath.
Speaker 4: Got to be I be.
Speaker 2: And that's how that's how I'm looking at it. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at your if I'm looking, I'm looking at your stance.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at and I saw who's that today?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: I saw somebody. I forget who it was on Joe.
Speaker 2: He crashed down. Guys, if the guy crashed down, what
Speaker 2: you think the other guy gonna do? He gonna loop
Speaker 2: around time.
Speaker 1: You got to replace what disappeared. I'm like, guys, are
Speaker 1: you serious? You mean to tell me you let that
Speaker 1: guy cross across your face? Pass that off and be
Speaker 1: ready for the looper. The linebacker is gonna loop over
Speaker 1: the top? Here trying to put two guys in this
Speaker 1: in the A gap, two guys in the big gap.
Speaker 1: Somebody got to hit A, somebody got to hit B,
Speaker 1: and somebody got to be in the C.
Speaker 2: But I think the I think the thing is on Joe.
Speaker 2: And a lot of times guys panic.
Speaker 1: Panic and they don't trust their coaching, they don't trust
Speaker 1: their technique, and they panic and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: the play gets blown up. When all you had to
Speaker 1: do with the trust your technique. You know that guy disappeared.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to appear m and you know.
Speaker 4: You got you got. You gotta think fast too, huh,
Speaker 4: you got it. You gotta Yes, you gotta think fast.
Speaker 4: You gotta recognize what you see in front of you,
Speaker 4: use your eyes again, your technique for one. But you
Speaker 4: gotta be able to communicate. Yes, you gotta be able
Speaker 4: to communicate. And some of the things that you see
Speaker 4: on film, you know throughout the week you're gonna see
Speaker 4: him in the game. Yes, you're gonna see him in
Speaker 4: the game. Most of the time, it catches off guard
Speaker 4: because sometimes you study stuff and you see a formation
Speaker 4: and okay, okay, this is it, I'm ready, I'm waiting
Speaker 4: on it, and then it's something completely different. Then they
Speaker 4: come back and hit you with the same exact thing
Speaker 4: that you're saw on film, but you're not ready for
Speaker 4: it because they then loads you to sleep with other shit.
Speaker 4: They're then't loads you to sleep.
Speaker 1: But the way they study tape, the way we study tape,
Speaker 1: o yo, we look at everything. Okay, we look at
Speaker 1: that coverage and then when we look at d Lineman.
Speaker 1: But because back then when I was in the league,
Speaker 1: they used to play a lot of twenty five front.
Speaker 1: The same backer was on the ball. Now all they
Speaker 1: play are overfront. It's got four down lineman. They don't
Speaker 1: They rarely put the sambacker on the ball. Now the
Speaker 1: Steelers play a three four defense where they play Sam
Speaker 1: will Mike clubb and they got three down lineman, and
Speaker 1: they got both linebackers on the ball and normal ones
Speaker 1: one always coming because you want for a man pressure.
Speaker 1: With that being said, we would get cut up and
Speaker 1: we look just look at linemen and linebacker's feet, and
Speaker 1: that would tell us, Okay, you see a stance. Look
Speaker 1: at his stance. Look what he's gonna do. I got
Speaker 1: square years, he ain't coming. Look at the cop. Look
Speaker 1: at the cop. He gonna put the foot back, or
Speaker 1: you're gonna to give you a cook. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: here it come.
Speaker 4: Hey, if if a stagger he comes dagger.
Speaker 2: I already know he gonna try to cross my face.
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna do is shove him onto the tackle,
Speaker 1: that fight backer, and I'm gonna carry it. And and
Speaker 1: there's porters of TV right off my help. But you
Speaker 1: just got look, I trust my film study and if
Speaker 1: they do something that we didn't see on film.
Speaker 2: Hey, coach, this is what we thought, this is what
Speaker 2: we thought were gonna get. We didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to react. But you're not gonna beat me.
Speaker 1: You're not going to beat me o joe with what
Speaker 1: I saw on tape. Now, if you beat me with
Speaker 1: something else, I'll give you credit. At they get the
Speaker 1: practice too. They get the practice too. It's not like
Speaker 1: we're the only one practice and they gonna show up unprepared.
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna beat me with what I saw
Speaker 1: you do and this down in distance and this air
Speaker 1: of the field against this formation. You might beat me
Speaker 1: doing something else, but I won't let you beat me
Speaker 1: with that. And I just think the guys, But give
Speaker 1: the Cowboys credit. Dak Da could Dak always could spend
Speaker 1: the ball. The problem that got that that he would
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, he would put the ball in
Speaker 1: harm's way. He's made a better job of protecting the football.
Speaker 1: And he has two playmakers. He's never had this many
Speaker 1: playmakers at once, even when he had that Dad's and Gallup.
Speaker 1: They're not CD and pick. This is a whole, This
Speaker 1: is a whole. This is a whole different a whole
Speaker 1: different animal that we're dealing with that he has, and
Speaker 1: that offensive line is getting better and better and better.
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is that the offense
Speaker 4: is well balanced. It is well can They not only
Speaker 4: can they throw the ball, but they can also run
Speaker 4: the ball, and they don't go away from the run
Speaker 4: because the run most of the time has opened up
Speaker 4: the pass for the goddamn Cowboys, which is why it is,
Speaker 4: which is why it's having so much success. We understand
Speaker 4: how good pickings of CD lamb are, but hell, you
Speaker 4: can run the ball like Williams is doing with shit,
Speaker 4: then when it's time to play action and everything going
Speaker 4: to be wide.
Speaker 2: Ass open, Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1: But you gotta stay battanced though jokes, because it's easy
Speaker 1: to fall in love. When you got picked and you
Speaker 1: got a CD and you got guys that can go
Speaker 1: make plays. It's easy to get away because the way
Speaker 1: Dak is spinning the ball right now, it's easy to
Speaker 1: get away from the run game. But when you got
Speaker 1: Williams and you got Davis, that could you know, and
Speaker 1: the blanket that can Davis is not only if it's
Speaker 1: Wims can get you the tough yards, but he got
Speaker 1: he got speed to be able to get outside and
Speaker 1: get and get a twenty thirty yard game.
Speaker 2: Obviously we saw.
Speaker 1: Davis hit his head on the goal post and then
Speaker 1: they all of a sudden they'll catching napping and they're
Speaker 1: got'll do it quick Jet and Dontee Turpin coming around,
Speaker 1: and we know he got crazy speed. So yes, they
Speaker 1: can run the ball. They're really balanced. But over the
Speaker 1: last three weeks, I've seen this offensive line getting that
Speaker 1: start the jail. You look at Booker uh uh, you
Speaker 1: look at a Smith uh today still was in at
Speaker 1: right tackle. And I thought they played well. I thought
Speaker 1: they played really really well today they did. And like
Speaker 1: I said, the Chiefs now that Mardel is not gonna
Speaker 1: work anymore. You gotta go to hell Rad, you gotta
Speaker 1: go the defensive line with Oho that you don't have to.
Speaker 1: And now you know Spags want to bring pressure when
Speaker 1: he feels when he feels threatened, he always gonna bring
Speaker 1: that pressure.
Speaker 4: O Joe.
Speaker 2: But now you don't really have that back end that
Speaker 2: can hold up.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, look at the back end they head.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you when it was at their best, right,
Speaker 4: when it was at their best is we could bring
Speaker 4: pressure because we know we got Trim McDuffie and the
Speaker 4: devis sneed out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna were gonna play a shell on top.
Speaker 2: Of that had Red you had read it, say.
Speaker 4: Big man, listen they and wasn't nothing and it wasn't
Speaker 4: nothing going on because I feel I can bring pressure
Speaker 4: because I know I don't have to worry about my
Speaker 4: goddamn back in now it's not that same once for
Speaker 4: those players. You don't have players at the same caliber
Speaker 4: or with the same skills set that can allow you
Speaker 4: to do some of the things you want to do. Defensively, yep,
Speaker 4: not this is what you get.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're absolutely right, but that defensive line is
Speaker 1: not the same.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Like I said, uh, cj Is is a good player,
Speaker 1: but that fifteen, that twelve fifteen, sad guy, he's not
Speaker 1: that anymore. Coloftus, I don't even think Coloftus registered the
Speaker 1: tackle today.
Speaker 2: Did he make a tackle today? No? No, no stats
Speaker 2: for Coloftus. Y'all get one one total one.
Speaker 1: Tacklem They had two two tackle for losses and no sacks.
Speaker 1: That you can't It's it's hard, it's hard, and I
Speaker 1: thought Patrick Mahonmes is playing unbelievable football. Joeball I mean
Speaker 1: he had four touchdowns, four touchdowns twenty three or thirty
Speaker 1: four to sixty one, four touchdowns, got out of arm's way,
Speaker 1: scrambled the ball. You know, he still got those legs
Speaker 1: when needed. That played that, he got pressure, the guy
Speaker 1: was about to go. He jumped before because he knew
Speaker 1: the guy was gonna try to sweep his legs.
Speaker 2: And he's off balance and he throws the ball. I
Speaker 2: think he hit Rice. No, he hit a worthy Worthy.
Speaker 1: They're not a but they're not but a handful of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to make a player like that, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a guy like a Josh Allen or Lamars my Homeboys,
Speaker 1: somebody like that.
Speaker 2: It's there's only a few that could do that. But
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, the Cowboys. What's the limit? You got a
Speaker 2: Cowboys schedule up here?
Speaker 6: Cowboys at Liams at Lions, Oh, Cowboys, Okay, Vikings at home,
Speaker 6: Chargers at home, Commanders on the road, Giants on the road.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And what we saw from the Lions. Hey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Campbell might want to turn that play calling back over
Speaker 1: to John Morton, just saying offensive line, the offensive line.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about them. The Cowboy at Lions, next week,
Speaker 1: Vikings at home. Oh, they play next Thursday. That's next
Speaker 1: Thursday night.
Speaker 4: Who they play?
Speaker 5: Who they play next Prime Game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's next Friday, next next Thursday. Excuse me, next Thursday.
Speaker 1: Because that's normally what they do. They play Thursday Thursday,
Speaker 1: and then they get ten days off and play the
Speaker 1: following Sunday, which will be on Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah they play.
Speaker 1: No, they play Thursday Thursday, then the following Sunday, so
Speaker 1: they play Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: They'll play next.
Speaker 1: Thursday and then they'll play, Yeah, because that's what that's
Speaker 1: normally how dollars schedule shapes up for Joe. They normally
Speaker 1: play Thanksgiving, then they'll play the following Thursday, and then
Speaker 1: they'll play the following Sunday.
Speaker 4: Right, so give them enough time in between the rest. Yep, Wait,
Speaker 4: hold on, wait, hold on? Who oh no, we were
Speaker 4: talking about the Lions. Okay, we need today. Let me
Speaker 4: see it back, let me see it.
Speaker 1: They got water in here, they could they hey, look
Speaker 1: they could. The Eagles could have depth them a death blow.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs could have dealt them a death blow. But
Speaker 1: give the cowboy credit the Cowboys like, nah, we still believe.
Speaker 1: We still got faith. Uh sixth levels. So they got
Speaker 1: five games to play and they went out. Absolutely. The
Speaker 1: games only get more important as they go along further
Speaker 1: and further. What they did against the Eagles, what they've
Speaker 1: done against the Chiefs today, all that's behind them. Now
Speaker 1: we got to set up, put our focus on the Lions.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden the Lions. Uh I'm and
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown went out. Now he has ten days
Speaker 1: to couple. We don't know the severity of it all.
Speaker 1: They said there was an ankle injury and he was out,
Speaker 1: did not play.
Speaker 2: Absence.
Speaker 1: Jameson Williams stepped up and played huge. Jameson Williams was
Speaker 1: was unbelievable today. Yeah, but the Cowboys have a very
Speaker 1: oh they got a very very favorable schedule. Uh you
Speaker 1: look at the Lions. Their game behind the Lions. So
Speaker 1: they beat the Lions. Now they flip positions, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: They still they will still being the they will be
Speaker 1: they will be in the eighth spot instead of the
Speaker 1: knight spot if I'm not mistaken. And then Vikings charges
Speaker 1: commanders and giants Uh close, Oh okay, Uh you think
Speaker 1: they can you think they can run the table, oh
Speaker 1: Joe the cow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well absent goddamn lotely is as long as they
Speaker 4: continue to do what they do defensively and play like that,
Speaker 4: play solid defense.
Speaker 5: You don't got to be working.
Speaker 4: You don't have to be all world.
Speaker 5: Just meet us halfway.
Speaker 4: Just meet us halfway, and let the offense take care
Speaker 4: of what they're doing offensively. Dack, you can't turn the
Speaker 4: ball over. Protect the ball. That's it. And make sure
Speaker 4: whoever call the players, I'm not sure is called the plays.
Speaker 4: But keep that balance, keep that balance with Williams running
Speaker 4: the ball, you know, Joan Redes off tackle some of
Speaker 4: those sweets, some of those pitches. You'd like to do,
Speaker 4: those tosses, and then play actually kill him every time
Speaker 4: with Pickle is able to do. Obviously, pick playing mostly
Speaker 4: on the outside, and see the lamb is killing everything.
Speaker 4: Intermediate short, intermediate, I mean you'll be fine. And obviously
Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson when they want to use him and get
Speaker 4: him the ball, they have the weapons to do it.
Speaker 4: All to come down to you have to play solid,
Speaker 4: complimentary defense and they'll be fine. It's easy. It's easy
Speaker 4: for me to sit here and say it, but actually
Speaker 4: going out there and do it, doing it play by play,
Speaker 4: drive by drive. That's the hard part.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, oo, you look at
Speaker 1: the Commanders might be without Jay and Daniels like he practiced,
Speaker 1: but he's probably I think they The Commanders played the
Speaker 1: Broncos this week, O Joe, so there was a part
Speaker 1: that he was practicing, but they said it was iffy
Speaker 1: that he plays Sunday. We'll see if he's fully recovered
Speaker 1: and he's able to go against the Cowboys. Uh, the Chargers.
Speaker 1: We don't know what Chargers we're gonna get. We know
Speaker 1: offensively they can be good. We know they're gonna put
Speaker 1: pressure on your defensively, but we never know which Charger
Speaker 1: team is gonna show up the Bankings.
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, boy.
Speaker 5: Hey, what's what's what's wrong with?
Speaker 4: Jj?
Speaker 3: H Oh?
Speaker 1: We got a bad special guest joining us, coming fresh
Speaker 1: from the Thanksgiving Day game in which the defensive line
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting after Patrick Mahome Harry,
Speaker 1: Oh see, Oh Digga zewa ZIGGI.
Speaker 2: How you doing, bro? What's good man?
Speaker 4: How y'all doing? I'm doing great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it great?
Speaker 4: Ziggy? What what'd you say where you at?
Speaker 3: I'm at home, bro, just got done eating Thanksgiving dinner
Speaker 3: not too long ago.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I ain't even have to you know. You
Speaker 5: know how bless you are to have Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 5: I had three hot dogs to day.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and I'm spoiled.
Speaker 3: Bro. I don't know how long I've been saying it,
Speaker 3: probably last two years since my.
Speaker 2: Mom moved in with me.
Speaker 3: And she been on the ones and twos in the
Speaker 3: kitchen and I'm not gonna stop saying it.
Speaker 2: She went, ham, So, so what what what was? What?
Speaker 2: What was?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What we have typical Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3: It was straight Nigerian food, bro food food, so food, food, goosey,
Speaker 3: jelof rice, rice and okaya, the whole nine.
Speaker 1: So so that's that's say. That is a typical Nigerian
Speaker 1: Yeah Thanksgiving? Yeah you y'all. Y'all had no turkey, no
Speaker 1: no dressing, no magazeese, none of that or that was
Speaker 1: an addition to no.
Speaker 2: No, that was it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a part of our