1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hut. Let's go, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Let's go, Let's go Giants dot Com. Like it on 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: My Giants Bubble, Give me some Join part of the 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: Giants Podcast. 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Network's Welcome to the Giants Tottle podcast, brought to you 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: by Citizens, the official bank of the New York Giants. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: After falling to the Cowboys in their regular season opener, 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Big Blue looks to bounce back as it out turns 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: its attention to the Cardinals, who they'll visit in week 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: two at State Farm Stadium in Arizona. And to delve 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: into this matchup, I'm now joined by the man who 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: will be calling the action alongside play by plan announcer 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: Adam Amine for Fox at four or five pm Eastern. 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: Three time Super Bowl champion in his twelve seasons, is 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: an NFL offensive lineman one with Washington Too with Denver 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: and Fox NFL game analyst who you can also catch 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: regularly on his podcast The Stinking Truth, none other than 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Mark Schlereth. Marky got Lance Meadow here on Giants dot Com. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate the time hoopole as well. How's everything on 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: your end? 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Everything is great, lads, really, I'm enjoying the I'm enjoying 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: the prep I had the football season here. Can't believe 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: it's already week two. It seems like we wait forever 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: for it to happen, and then all of a sudden 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: we're in scrambled mode week two. And uh, I know, 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: you guys there in New York and Big Blue or 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: are very sky is falling, very nervous chicken little aspect 28 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: to uh to what happens Sunday night and that debacle. 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I actually was fairly encouraged coming 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: out watching the film and going, you know what, it's 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: there's old saying that they're never you're never as good 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: as they say you are, and they're never as bad 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: as they say you are, somewhere in between lives of 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the truth, and there's a lot of things not making excuses, 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of things that you look at 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: as an analyst or as a former player that you 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: would say, hey, like that's easily fixable, that's something they 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: can clean up really quickly. That that you know that 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: that's that that's that's going to be better going forward. 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: So like I was not, as you know, beside myself, 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: as I think most Giants fans probably are right now, 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: and I understand why. 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the big picture of perspective what 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: you just alluded to. I'm curious your perspective. As a 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: former player and a broadcaster, we tend to overreact, which 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: is what you were getting at in just one week 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: of results. So how much stock mark do you put 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: in one game? Because on the flip side, Arizona didn't 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: look too bad on the defensive side of the ball 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: against Washington last week, and there weren't very high expectations 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: in terms of what's going on with Arizona this season. 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona defensively there there, they're a formidable defense. They're 53 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna give you, you know, they're gonna give you problems. 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: They played really well up front. They held Washington, you know, 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: in check when it comes to run on the football, 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: they freshered Washington on a consistent basis. You know, they've 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: got some they're really talented on that side of the wall. 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I go back to what went down 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: with with the Giants, and yeah, I watched that first drive. 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: As I'm watching that first drive, they ran a power 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: play to the left hand side where they had an 62 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: exquisite double team down from Brettison and Thomas, exquisite lead 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: block by Bellinger, you know, and a really nice six 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: seven yard run and it was perfectly executed. Then a 65 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: couple of plays later they ran fourteen handoff six with 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: a tight angleing across the formation and Glewinsky and I 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: think it was your center had an unbelievable double two 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: at the point of it. Tech, it was like a 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: nine yard run, and you executed, and you dominated that 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: first drive all the way down until you know, you 71 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: have a box snap and then you get a field 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: goal attempt that's blocked and goes the other way for 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown, right, and now the wheels start to come 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: off a little bit. There was a few other drives 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: and a few other a few other drives that as 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: you look at it, you're like, wow, they really played 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: well right up until the point where that game got 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: out of hand. That got out of hand quickly, And 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: what ends up happening to you, you know, I know, 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues, and people are talking about 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the offensive line and let's you know, dump everybody and 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: let's move forward. But what ends up happening to you 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: as a group up front is It's like it's like 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: if somebody came to you and said, hey, here's what 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: we're going to do. We're gonna have you build this deck, right, 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: but we're not going to give you a saw. We're 87 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: not going to give you a level, we're not going 88 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: to give you a screwdriver, we're not going to give 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: you any Now, we're just going to give you a hammer. 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: And you know your deck is going to be a 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: piece of crap. And ultimately, what happens to you as 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: an offense is you look at you look up, and 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: you're down nineteen nothing, the game barely kicked off, and now, well, 94 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to really run the ball. We're not 95 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: going to stick with our staple plays. We're gonna throw 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: much deeper drops. So now all of a sudden, I 97 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: can't use my short set, I can't use my aggressiveness. 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: I can't use any of the tools of my tool 99 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: belt to slow you down as a defense. So as 100 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: a defense, you just pin your arrearers back and you're like, 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: hey man, we'll play the run on the way to 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Let's just go eat. And it's an impossible position. 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. If you put any 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: group and not just the Giants, I'm talking about any 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: group in the National Football League in that situation. They're 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: getting their ass kicked. That's that's just the way it is. 107 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: And so you're asked to do something with zero tools 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: and the tool belt, and I guess, I guess the 109 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: most disappointing thing is you watch It is not necessarily 110 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: the physical mistakes, because there were plenty of physical mistakes plenty, 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: But it was the mental mistakes. It was the mistakes 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: that were born out of frustration and not having those 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: tools in your tool belt. Those are the things that 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I think made like the biggest impact in my mind. 115 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, there were a bunch of drop balls, right 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: like the receiver to dropping balls. There are a bunch 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: of missed assignments, and someone were subtle missed assignments, like 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: just not understanding, like running out of out of protection 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: to go help somebody else that you put yourself out 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: of position. There were just a lot of little things 121 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: that you look at and you're like, that was just awful. 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Dow's interception where they're running a two man 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: combo route between whatever ride receivers out there and they 124 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: motion they get in a bunch formation with sa Quon Barkley, 125 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: then motion across the formation into two man stack and 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: they're just running like basically a go with an option 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: route and he's got perfect leverage and he breaks the 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: option route off and Daniel Jones is rolling that way. 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: It's he's going to complete it for eight yards. If 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: you break a tackle, it may go to the house. 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: But it's the easiest throw. Is the easiest throw you 132 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: had all night? And what do you do? You don't 133 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: throw it. You hold onto the ball and then you 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: force it down the football field gets intercepted, and you're like, listen, man, 135 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: you're not going to score. You're not going to score 136 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown. They're not going to give you twenty one 137 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: points to get back in this game. The touchdowns still 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: on account for six. And so what you saw collectively 139 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: with the Giants is they got caught in a bus, 140 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: saw in a vortex, and then they started trying to 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: make you twenty one point scores and it just, I mean, 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: it just spiraled out of control after that. But I 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as like perplexed. I think watching the film 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: is everybody else would be. And I think the giants 145 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: are probably saying the right things to the media because 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: they don't want to have to hear the media go face. 147 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: But they didn't play that, you know, they don't want 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to have to hear that noise. Right, But I think 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: you get your ass shewed in a meeting and you 150 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: look at all the stuff and you're like, man, these 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: are easily correctable. And I will tell you this, You're 152 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: going out to a place right now where you've got 153 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: a great chance to rectify things. Because as good as 154 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: that defense is, that offense is not very good. Their 155 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: quarterback's been there now. Gosh, I don't know if he's 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: been there three weeks yet. I think it's it's probably 157 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: twenty days today that he's been there. He hasn't worked 158 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: with those receivers. There's not really a rapport there. You're 159 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: not going to find yourself down twenty one points where 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: you have to take all the tools out of your 161 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: tool belt like you'll be. You'll be in this game 162 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: from a complimentary football standpoint, So as a defense, you're 163 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: not worried about giving up. You know, all those big 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: plays like you saw CD lamb down the sideline a 165 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: man the man coverage where they picked him, and he 166 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: runs the you know, he runs basically the wheel out 167 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: down the sideline for a thirty forty fifty yard whatever 168 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: it was. Gain like you that stuff you're not gonna get. 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: You're not going to get into that position that you 170 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: were in last week. So you can work on all 171 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: those things that you're going to practice all week gone. 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 173 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: So go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country. 174 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 175 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: you ready for all that? Life breaks? 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: Well? 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: To your point, game flow certainly influenced what the Giants 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: could do on both sides of the ball, and also 179 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Dallas's approach from an offensive side of the ball given 180 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: that big lead that they had in the second half. Now, 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: I want to piggyback markof of your point about Arizona's 182 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: offense because they did acquire Joshua Dobbs right before the season, 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: so you're right, had about maybe two weeks of practice. 184 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: But he does have familiarity with Drew Petsing the offensive 185 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: coordinated they were together in Cleveland, So how much more 186 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: do you think they could potentially open the playbook compared 187 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: to what you saw against Washington, that he is going 188 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: to have another full week of practice with that familiarity component. 189 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously you're talking about adding that, you know, 190 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: having the compatibility with your offensive coordinator, understanding the way 191 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: you're going to call a game. Still haven't worked with 192 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: those receivers. And there's a reason all these quarterbacks go 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: take their receivers somewhere in the summer and they you know, 194 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: throw routes and they do all that stuff. None of 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: that stuff exists. You're still learning guys' names and so 196 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: and so that's you know, an issue. At one point 197 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: in that game, I remember getting a note from our 198 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: stats guy. I said, hey, man, twelve attempts, eight of 199 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: the twelve went to tight end. And that's not because 200 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: their tight ends are dominant. That's because I don't have 201 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: a rapport with anybody else. So it's easier to throw 202 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: a little spot rout in the middle of the football 203 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: field over run in some type of why snag you know, 204 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's just standing there, right. It's a four 205 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: yard game. So you saw a lot of You saw 206 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot of that, and you know, and and ultimately 207 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: they've got some. They've got some players. Rondell Moore is 208 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: a dynamics slot type of guy, a third down guy 209 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: that you got to be careful with. James Connor is 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: a really good back. You know, they've they've got some talent. 211 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: But again, I don't think another week of practice will help. 212 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think all of a sudden you go 213 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: from kind of what I would would consider an okay 214 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: group up front, and you know, you know, uh, talented, 215 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: but not you know, not all together, like not dominant talent, 216 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: but they're talented, but they're just as that. There's a 217 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: lot that goes into that. And and frankly, you know 218 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: is I don't care how much better Joshua Dobbs gets 219 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: from a playbook standpoint, he's limited. He's just he's a 220 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: limited There's a reason that he's a you know, a journeyman. 221 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: There's a reason he's at It's because he's not a starter, 222 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: and so he's a limited player in that capacity, and 223 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: that's not derogatory. He's an NFL player. He's really really good, 224 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: but in NFL parlance compared to starting quarterbacks, he's not 225 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's starting, but he's not truly a. 226 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: Starter, and I think to support what you're talking about, 227 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: he had an average yardage for pass attempt of four 228 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: point four yards, So it wasn't as if they were 229 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: trying to go for the whole run. They were essentially 230 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: playing for the base hit or the bunt, to use 231 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: a baseball analogy. So, Mark, in terms of the encouraging 232 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: aspects that you saw on film with respect to the Giants, 233 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: where do you see the Giants defense with Wink Martindale's 234 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: scheme being able to capitalize against this Arizona offense this week? 235 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I think you know, the propensity for Wink 236 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Martindale to bring pressure, to play a lot of man coverage. 237 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody on the outside, Hollywood Brown 238 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: and Michael Wilson, even Rondelmore, I don't know that anybody 239 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: on the outside that you're afraid of anybody outside if 240 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: you go man to man of destroying you because you know, 241 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: ultimately the quarterbacks kind of be able to get it there. 242 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: The line's got to be able to hold up. Like 243 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of factors that go into that. So 244 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: I think from that standpoint, you know, he can bring 245 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: the house and he can feel pretty good about surviving behind. 246 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: You may give up a big player or two, but 247 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, for everyone you give up, you're gonna make five. 248 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: And and those those players become game changing type of plays, 249 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, interceptions and uh and sacks and stripped fumbles 250 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: and that type of thing. And I was encouraged, Like 251 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: I was encouraged by the way there back in play. 252 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I thought they're back in. I thought their rookie corner 253 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: was outstanding. I thought he was super physical. I enjoyed 254 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: watching him play. Rory Jackson made a hit and an 255 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: an open field tackle on the goal line that that 256 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: was like, to me, was like a big time play 257 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: kept them from scoring. And I think that Dubtas had 258 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: to kick a field goal and that when the game 259 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: was still kind of on the line or in, you know, 260 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: in the balance, you know. I thought there was some 261 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I thought there was some really good stuff. You know, obviously, 262 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: you get down like that and you got to take 263 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: some chances and you know, and those things happened to you. 264 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: But I thought I was encouraged for the most part 265 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: by the way they played on the defensive side of 266 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: the ball. 267 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: The Huddle is brought to you by Citizens the official 268 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Bank of the New York Giants from game day to everyday. 269 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Citizens has made running for Giants fans with insights, guidance, 270 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: and solutions. Learn more at citizens bank dot com. As 271 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: we're talking with Mark Schlereth, they'll be on the call 272 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: with Adam Iman for Fox A four oh five pm 273 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: Eastern kickoff between the Giants and the Cardinals. Jonathan Gannon, 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: who was in Philadelphia, is the defensive coordinator the last 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: two years now, seems to have brought that philosophy over 276 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: to Arizona. I'm curious how much of what the Eagles ran, Mark, 277 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: do you see in this Arizona defense based on what 278 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: they put forth against Washington. How much do you think 279 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: his familiarity with the Giants personnel, having been in the 280 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: NFC East maybe gives the Cardinals a little bit of 281 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: an edge in that department if anything. 282 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I think obviously there are the root of 283 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: what they do is that shell look. But I think 284 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: they have players both the linebacker position and in the 285 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: back end, their safety position, their nickel that give them 286 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: some opportunities to do some things, especially the safety that 287 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: maybe Philadelphia honestly didn't have. Buddha Baker is a tremendous player. 288 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson is a tremendous player. And the thing about 289 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: the thing about that is those guys have versatility that 290 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: very few have. Like they can they can come down 291 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: and and essentially cover a wide receiver, be a nickel 292 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: guy as a safety. They're good blitzers, they're they can 293 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: play man demand. They they have great spatial awareness and zone. 294 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: They do a lot of things. So it gives them 295 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: some versatility that I think probably Philadelphia really didn't have 296 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: last year. And I think I think if you looked 297 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: at one weakness at the Philadelphia Eagles, it was probably 298 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: underneath their linebackers. I don't think their linebackers had the 299 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: movement skills that that Arizona has with Kaiser White and 300 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Josh Woods and some of the other guys they have. 301 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: So I think they're a little bit I think they're 302 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: a little bit better right in the middle. Now, their 303 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: D line is you know, it's a bunch of guys 304 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: that nobody's ever heard of, but they play really hard 305 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: and they're they're good, Like, uh, led Better Kid is 306 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: a really good player. L J. Kyle Collier was a 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: former first round kind of bust in Seattle that has 308 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: played pretty well for Johnathan this preseason FO two is 309 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: like he's a strong, physical guy that they've got a 310 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: good rotation. So, yeah, they're familiar with with the Giants. 311 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question with that. And and 312 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: they give a few more wrinkles than what the Giants 313 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: were used to playing against Philadelphia. Philadelphia is far more 314 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, far more shell not bringing pressure. You know, Gonna, 315 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: we've got the offense where we don't have to necessarily 316 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: bring a lot of pressure. There's a there's a you'll 317 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: see a lot a lot more of a nuanced and 318 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: wrinkled defense if you will in Arizona then you saw 319 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: in Philly. It's not as vanilla. 320 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: Now we know it's a copycat league. Now I'm not 321 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: saying in any way to your point, is Arizona resembling 322 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons and company in terms of what the Cowboys 323 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: bring to the table. But if you're Jonathan Gannon and 324 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: you see the struggles that Giants had, where do you 325 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: think they will look to perhaps attack the Giants up 326 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: front just to see whether or not the Giants learn 327 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: their lesson and will make the necessary adjustments. 328 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's always I think there's a lot 329 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: of things that you would look at, like movement online 330 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: of sprimage. I think one of the things you get 331 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: into and I don't think people really understand the kind 332 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: of nuance and the way things go for offensive linemen. 333 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: But when you're young and you haven't played together, there 334 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: is a lot of communication that goes into it. And 335 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: I'll just give you a just quick for instance. So 336 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: just from a technique alignment standpoint, you all of a 337 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: sudden shift into a four eye technique, which is a 338 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: defensive end or defensive tackle on the inside shade of 339 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: the tackle, okay, the inside shade of the offensive tackle, 340 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: versus a four technique, which is head up. So a 341 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: four eye technique oftentimes is a defensive tackle that should 342 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: be lined up over the guard that shifts out. And 343 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's because you're running outside like some outside plays 344 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: and outside so you want to have more of an 345 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: outside presence. Maybe it's just to get with because you 346 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: want to get a one on one with that guard 347 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: that's got to kick out to you, and it takes 348 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: away you can't upkick that you've got to slide out. 349 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: It opens up space on both sides of that guard, 350 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: so or you can run a game from there. So 351 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: you as a guard or reading that as a four 352 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: eye technique, or you're reading it as a four technique. 353 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: The tackles room is a four eye technique. So the 354 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: tackle thinks, hey, that's the guards man, I'm turning over 355 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: the guard. The guard thinks, oh, that's the tackles guy. 356 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna duel read out, and all of a sudden, 357 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: nobody blocks them, and then you realize, oh, shoot, we 358 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: didn't blind and then you get on him, but he's 359 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: on your edge and he's pressuring in a quarterback and 360 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you move late and each saw 361 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: Mike Comparsons move around, and all of a sudden he's 362 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: on somebody's edge like that because they didn't identify him, 363 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: they didn't identify the defense. And so when that happens 364 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: to you from a movement standpoint and a just a 365 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: look standpoint, where you get into a bad look or 366 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: you get into a look that's just enough, there's just 367 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: enough confusion that you don't communicate well as a group 368 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: up front your beat, you're dead. And so what ends 369 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: up happening is you see guys not communicating while guys 370 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: making a few mistakes and that frustration set in. So 371 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I would fully expect to see some movements, some walking around, 372 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: some looks that make it hard to identify, you know, 373 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: where guys are lined up and what defensive front they're running, 374 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: because ultimately the Cardinals run a three four front, but 375 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: it's a five man front like a lot of teams run. 376 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: But you know, they'll move guys around, they'll give you really, 377 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, really tight looks, and so all of a 378 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: sudden you're like, okay, well, you know, like I said, 379 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: the guy that four is in a four to I 380 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: is it? My guys at your guy like communication because 381 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: it's very paramount. Now you're on the road, you know, 382 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: trying to communicate, and you didn't do it well obviously 383 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: at home versus a Cowboys. So that's one thing that 384 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure Jonathan Ganna will look at and go, how 385 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: much can we get movement on guys? How much can 386 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: we move linebackers around? How much can we move our 387 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: defensive you know, edge presence guys and guard deck and 388 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: XAVI and colins. What can we do in that regard 389 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: to create just a moment's hesitation and a moment's hesitation. 390 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: When you play offensive line, your beat. Its just you're 391 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: somebody's on your edge and the guys on the other 392 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: side of line of scrimmage or better at least than 393 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: we are as offensive lineman. And that's that's what happens 394 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: to you. 395 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: You love turf, you're good at it, so you start 396 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: a turf biz business grows, your savings grow, become the 397 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: most celebrated name in turf? Are you ready for all 398 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: that life brings? 399 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Giants? Fans love a winner. 400 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: It's why they love Citizens named a twenty twenty two 401 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: Best Bank in the US by the Banker as the 402 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: official bank of the Giants and sponsor of the Huddle, 403 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Citizens is made ready for fans of Big Blue. Learn 404 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: more at Citizens bank dot com. As a former offensive lineman, Mark, 405 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: I am very curious or perspective is we're taping this 406 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: interview Andrew Thomas, the Giants starting left tackles, dealing with 407 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: a hamstring issue. He did not practice on Wednesday, And 408 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: just to move a little bit ahead, the Giants do 409 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: have a quick turnaround. They've got a Thursday game against 410 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: San Francisco after Sunday's game against Arizona. If we were 411 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: to put ourselves in the shoes of Brian Dable and 412 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: the coaching staff. How much do you have to take 413 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: in tickets, iteration, that quick turnaround of a next game, 414 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: in determining whether or not you want to put your 415 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: starting anchor at left tackle out there for the Sunday game. 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Is he healthy enough to play and he's going to 417 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: further damage the hamstring. If the answer is he's healthy 418 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: enough to play and he's not going to further damage it, 419 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: then he plays. And I'm sure he wants to play. 420 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: He played fifty three or seventy snaps and he played 421 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: pretty well for the most part. Got heard after that 422 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: first drive on that field goal attempt. So I would 423 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: tell you, you know when you're I mean, I made 424 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: a career out of playing injured, and more importantly than 425 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: playing injured, playing well injured. And what ends up happening 426 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: to you is you have to be so on point mentally. 427 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: You can play really well even limited athletically or limited 428 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: with an injury, if you are absolutely perfect with your sets, 429 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect in your technique. If you do that, you'll 430 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: play really well even hurt. And so I would imagine 431 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: they need him to play if at all possible Obviously, 432 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Perk is the other guy that was hurt, and I 433 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: think he was limited in practice today, so I think 434 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: that looks like a plus. But let me just tell you, 435 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: when all of a sudden you have to use your 436 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: swing guy to be a starter, then you don't have 437 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: another swing guy. And let me tell you, in the NFL, man, 438 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: those guys are incredibly valuable because they don't grow on trees. 439 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: It's really hard to be a swing tackle. Just like 440 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a guard. It's really hard to find a guy inside 441 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: that can play both guards or guard center guard. If 442 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: you find one of those dudes, that guy's a unicorn 443 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: because it's really hard to do. So oftentimes, you know, 444 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: I hear everybody going, well, you gotta fire Glewinsky because 445 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: he was awful, and he was he was terrible. But 446 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, zudu, you put him in there. Well, 447 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: then who's playing swing guard for you? Who's who's who's 448 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: your inside rotation? Because starters can't Most starters can't play 449 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: both sides. They're so intrenched on playing one side. You 450 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: can't ask them in the middle of the game going hey, 451 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: we made you the backup, but now so then what 452 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: do you have to do. You have to say, Okay, 453 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: if like for instance, Bredison got hurt, then you have 454 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: to take the guy Zudu who started at right guard, 455 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: and you have to put him over at left guard, 456 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: and then you have to bring Glowinski back into right guard, 457 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: and you end up creating like you end up creating issues. 458 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would assume I would assume that Andrew 459 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Thomas is gonna play. That's what that would be my assumption. 460 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: The only way I would assume he doesn't play is 461 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: if the doctor says, hey man, this thing is really 462 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: close and he could tweak it and miss four weeks. 463 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: Like now, if it's one of those he it's just 464 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: going to be sore, but we don't think there's a 465 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: chance to tweaking it, then he plays. But if he says, 466 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: hey man, we could tweak this and another two or 467 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: three days rest would really do him well, you know, 468 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: for the long haul, then then then you make that. 469 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: Then that's the right decision. But just the fact that 470 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy played fifty three or seventy snaps says to me, 471 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna play on Sunday. 472 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: As you were mentioning, it becomes a game of musical chairs. 473 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: If essentially you start moving all those offensive linemen around it. 474 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting you brought up a Zoodo Mark. 475 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: They actually gave him some snaps that left tackle when 476 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas went out of the game. Yes, so they're 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: experimenting there as well, perhaps in the event that they 478 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: do have to maybe be down to tackle Tea. 479 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a that's that's a tough one. I mean 480 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: those are if that guy can play tackle guard guard, 481 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: then he's a way better player than me, because there's 482 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: no I could have done that. I guarantee you that. 483 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's tough, and especially when you're talking 484 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: about the communication issues that went on, you know, and 485 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people gave Evan Neil a bunch of grief, 486 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: and I think Evan Neil's got a chance to be 487 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: a very good young player. But Glewinsky was like, I 488 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know what he went. He went insane, temporarily insane, 489 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: Like he quit using his hands, he quit using it, 490 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: and it was it was bizarre looking on film, like 491 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: what do you like? I kept going, what are you doing? 492 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And ultimately Evan, I think you know, 493 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: everybody says, well, Evan was really bad. Well, I would 494 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: tell you that Evan got himself out of position on 495 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: several plays, just going back through the recess of mind. 496 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: And I was not because I hadn't read all the articles. 497 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: So I was just watching film like I do every week. 498 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: I like to watch film. I thought there were a 499 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: lot of times he got himself into trouble by basically 500 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: hanging too long to help Lewinsky out and then get 501 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: himself edged on the outside, you know, get it like 502 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: basically doing and this is this is this prototypical of 503 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: the giants are this is this is kind of a 504 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: microcosm of what happened on Sunday night doing more than 505 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: your job. You did more than your job, and what 506 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: you ended up doing is getting your ass kicked because 507 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: you were doing more than your job. Like we all 508 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: got to we all got to play together, and none 509 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: of us can play well as an offensive line. I 510 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: can't play well unless we all play well because it 511 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: is the ultimate team within a team game. And you know, 512 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: I would tell you I will be shocked if they 513 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: don't play significantly better week two to where it eases 514 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: some of your mind right until you have to play 515 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco on a short week with that defensive line, 516 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: that's that's not good for anybody. Let me just tell you. 517 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: We're talking with Mark Schlerock, who's going to be on 518 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: the Fox Call with Adam Amin on Sunday for ROL 519 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: five pm Eastern kickoff. Before I let you go, Mark, 520 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: I want to actually pigging back off of your last point, 521 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: because I'm with you. If you give a special team's 522 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: touchdown and a defense at touchdown and you have all 523 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: of those other mishaps, very hard to win any football game, 524 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: regardless of the score. But interestingly, Arizona had nine penalties 525 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: for one hundred and twenty two yards, and Washington's first 526 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: touchdown drive seemed to be a product of their miscues. 527 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: They had three for sixty seven yards from Arizona's standpoint, 528 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: though the defense seemed to shore up as the game progressed. 529 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: So what do you read into Arizona's penalties and what 530 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: that may have been a product of and how they 531 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: were able to turn the corner similar to the Giants 532 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: to your point, being able to put some of their 533 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: baggage behind them this week. 534 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, let me just tell you one of those 535 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: penalties is probably good, Like when you have one you know, 536 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: helmet to helmet, personal foul, illegal contact like it probably 537 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: like you're setting a tone. And I thought Arizona came 538 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: out and said the tone. They were flying around and 539 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: they were trying to decapitate dudes, and listen, man, I 540 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Now, after you do it once, you got 541 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: to say, we can't do that anymore, right, We've got 542 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: to be a little bit smarter than that. But I thought, 543 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I thought, not that it was calculated, not that there's 544 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a bounty, not that there's any of that stuff, but 545 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: there is value to that sometimes. So and again, this 546 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: is not frontier justice. This is not you know, dirty play. 547 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: This is good aggressive. I want to send a message. 548 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, kuys, you're white, just about 549 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: decapitates their quarterback on the sideline. It was a late hit, 550 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: it was a launch, it was a helmet helmet, I mean, 551 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: it was all It was a they could have find him, 552 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: they could have they could have that could have been 553 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: a ninety yard penalty like that was it had every element. 554 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: And then there was one other you know, sideline late hit, 555 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: helmet helmet hit, and then there was a thirty seven 556 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: yard pass interference. But like I said, you don't want 557 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: you don't want those penalties. But the aggressiveness, to me 558 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: is what resonated more than anything else. I Mean, they 559 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: are flying around trying to just trying to knock the 560 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: snot out of people. And that's like, if they're gonna 561 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: win games, that's how they're gonna have to win it. 562 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play great defense, they're gonna have 563 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: to create some short fields. They're gonna have to have 564 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: a pick six or a fumble for a touchdown. They're 565 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to create like they did against Washington. That's 566 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: how they got a sixteen to ten lead. Was it 567 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: sixteen ten? I think it was sixteen ten anyhow, Yeah, 568 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: so I called the game. I can't remember, you know, 569 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: I've already moved on to Giants Arizona. So yeah, but 570 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: like those those things, to me were I looked at 571 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: that as and go, yeah, we got to clean up that. 572 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: We can't give it a thirty seven yard PI and uh, 573 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, we'll deal with one you know, we'll deal 574 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: with one person. Well again, have multiple personal That's kind 575 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: of my takeaway on that. 576 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, it will be an interesting one. The Giants looking 577 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: the bounce back the Cardinals trying to maybe create some 578 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: takeaways like they did last week against Washington. It is 579 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: the Giants of the Cardinals four or five pm Eastern kickoff. 580 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: He's Markshlever, three time Super Bowl champ, former NFL offensive lineman. 581 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: He'll be on the call for Fox with Adam Iman Mark. 582 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: This was really a joy. I greatly appreciate the time 583 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: of the insight, enjoy the call on Sunday, and I 584 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: look forward to talking down the road. 585 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good man, Take care, buddy. Absolutely. 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