Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host Travis Wingfield And on today's show,
Speaker 1: part two of the Kyle Krabs Dolphins Draft Extravaganza preview
Speaker 1: is coming your way. Next, we talked about the first pick,
Speaker 1: number thirteen overall with a Dolphins stick in there and pick.
Speaker 1: Will they move out, will they move up? What will
Speaker 1: happen there? Let's go ahead and get into all the
Speaker 1: Day two, Day three and final Dolphins roster discussions here
Speaker 1: with Kyle Krabs from the Baptist Health Studios inside the
Speaker 1: Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: It is part two of the Kyle Krabs annual Dolphins
Speaker 1: Draft Extravaganza on Draft Time Podcast, presented by Lockdown Dolphins Podcast.
Speaker 1: Just trying to make the tyle as long as possible here, Kyle.
Speaker 1: It's a forty two word title that we do on
Speaker 1: the podcast here every single year. Kyle, welcome back in
Speaker 1: my man. How we feel and how's the voice? Did
Speaker 1: it get better over the last two minutes? No, we're
Speaker 1: still We're still putting the old college try together.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. I feel good about our ability to
Speaker 2: finish here on the mock.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at a one two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six seven page Excel sheet document that has all these
Speaker 1: beautifully colored and sordid and grades. It's it's a work
Speaker 1: of art. It's a masterpiece. It's a I'm sure a
Speaker 1: six plus month labor of love for Kyle. And my
Speaker 1: question for you is, Kyle, I know the work that
Speaker 1: you do between freaking September to now to get ready
Speaker 1: for this. The guy will text me at nine forty
Speaker 1: eight pm clips of a two lane defensive tackle locking
Speaker 1: out in two gaps, Like Kyle, go to bedman or
Speaker 1: watch a movie or something. Nobody's watching football extra a
Speaker 1: lot later than nine, Let's be honest. Sometimes sometimes they're
Speaker 1: all throughout the day and I enjoy them everyone no
Speaker 1: matter what time of day they are. But my question
Speaker 1: for you is, Kyle, because as someone that got to
Speaker 1: like post up for two straight drafts on night one
Speaker 1: and just watch and like open a cold one and
Speaker 1: be a fan and not cover the draft was kind
Speaker 1: of fun. But I am excited to get back into
Speaker 1: the first round like we were last year with Chopp.
Speaker 1: What does draft weekend look like for you? Man? It's
Speaker 1: got to be I'm guessing just as busy as the
Speaker 1: work is beforehand.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of the things that I try to do.
Speaker 3: So that I have as robust and clean a picture
Speaker 3: as of a possible for Locked On Dolphins with when
Speaker 3: they make pick selections is I will update these boards
Speaker 3: in real time as picks are made, so like names
Speaker 3: will get grade out and crossed out, so at any
Speaker 3: given point in the draft, I can look and say, hey,
Speaker 3: here's where I think the value is.
Speaker 2: So in Miami picks.
Speaker 3: At thirteen, assuming they stay to pick thirteen, I'll know
Speaker 3: unequivocally who my best player available was. So that way
Speaker 3: I don't have to kind of take the catalog in
Speaker 3: real time when I do the show. So I have
Speaker 3: a live stream on Thursday night that I'm doing with
Speaker 3: Locked On NFL Scouting, But the rest of it is
Speaker 3: really going to be Dolphins focused in centric content with
Speaker 3: stuff in real time, reacting to stuff as it happens,
Speaker 3: making content around these picks as they're made. But I'm
Speaker 3: going to live in this document that you're looking at
Speaker 3: right now and updated in real time so that you
Speaker 3: know it paints a real time picture of the draft
Speaker 3: fold unfold as it unfolds.
Speaker 2: For the Dolphins specifically.
Speaker 1: We've come a long way.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: When I first got into the draft back in like
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, I used to write down every
Speaker 1: single pick in a composition notebook. For what reason, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just wanted to write them down and
Speaker 1: act like I was doing something and tracking it back
Speaker 1: in my high school days. Real quick to kind of
Speaker 1: give a follow up from episode one, which if you
Speaker 1: did not hear that, go back to Monday's Draft Time episode.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Dolphins offseason approach cap all like
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you want to talk about from
Speaker 1: an off season perspective, and we concluded it with the
Speaker 1: Dolphins first round draft pick discussion. And in that we
Speaker 1: did not get into Tyler Warren content because we talked
Speaker 1: about seven defensive players and you did say there was
Speaker 1: no player that would crack that seven player group as
Speaker 1: a potential top of that group player. I'm curious, though,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at Tyler Warren here as a really
Speaker 1: highly graded player on your board. Where would he factor
Speaker 1: into those seven players we talked about.
Speaker 3: So he he's right up there, this same grade as
Speaker 3: Will Johnson.
Speaker 2: For me, Now.
Speaker 3: That's where you put those players into a tier, you
Speaker 3: try to start to separate, you know, positional value kind
Speaker 3: of becomes part of the conversation. I would defer to
Speaker 3: if both were on the board, either Jday Baron or
Speaker 3: Will Johnson over Tyler Warren because of the traditional positional value,
Speaker 3: and then it is a bigger piece of meat. So
Speaker 3: that's kind of why I like that these are there's
Speaker 3: an individual number grade, but it's also more focused on
Speaker 3: a tier, so I can look within the tier and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's the best possible solution of the same players who
Speaker 3: fit within the tier.
Speaker 2: So Warren's in that tier.
Speaker 3: There would be some iterations of top twelves in which
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren would probably be on the short list and
Speaker 3: get more strong consideration for me, but it would have
Speaker 3: to be a very hyper specific type of situation where
Speaker 3: you probably get one quarterback in that scenario. You're probably
Speaker 3: very offensive line light in the first twelve picks for
Speaker 3: that scenario where maybe you get Memboo and Will Campbell
Speaker 3: or off the board and that's it for offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: I like Josh Simmons from Ohio State a ton, but
Speaker 3: with the medical questions there, I just I probably wouldn't
Speaker 3: feel too comfortable without knowing a lot more of what
Speaker 3: the teams know. Just me being somebody who's on the
Speaker 3: outside looking in, I can't imagine that I would would say, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know Pat teller tendon issue, I feel really good
Speaker 3: about that with you know, as good of a season
Speaker 3: as he had. But if they may, if they were to,
Speaker 3: in any situation, make that choice, you'd have to assume
Speaker 3: if they're comfortable with what they found on the medical background.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially given Greer's comments about needing impact players from
Speaker 1: this year's class. And that's probably gonna be in the
Speaker 1: first round. Like you guy, get a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: play in this first round most most likely. Just real quick,
Speaker 1: another quick aside because I'm looking at Ashton Genty here
Speaker 1: and his Great Player's Tribune article. I'm sure you saw it,
Speaker 1: like the quote of Time Football. If I were you,
Speaker 1: I would take the guy they can't tackle like that
Speaker 1: ys draft me. That was so cool? What about him?
Speaker 1: Like he's a great player, right, but like the position value,
Speaker 1: You've already got two good backs here, Like what do
Speaker 1: you think about that idea?
Speaker 3: It's kind of the same thing as Tyler Warren for me,
Speaker 3: where I can envision a World where if Ashton Genty,
Speaker 3: he's my eighth rated player on the Dolphin specific board
Speaker 3: and the names that are in front of him are
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, Abdol Carter, Jada Baron, Tyler, Warren Mason, Graham,
Speaker 3: Will Johnson, and we mentioned Josh Simmons as a guy
Speaker 3: who I really like, but with the medical questions that
Speaker 3: I have, I can't downgrade. Is great because the tape
Speaker 3: and the resume is the tape in the resume, but
Speaker 3: the risk versus reward at thirteen I probably wouldn't feel
Speaker 3: comfortable with. And Genty's in the same tier and bucket anyway,
Speaker 3: so it's not hard for me to imagine where where
Speaker 3: he is that the best player available, just authentically the
Speaker 3: best player regardless of need. And if you make that decision,
Speaker 3: then you know that would be my focus on it
Speaker 3: and how do we make it work with the other
Speaker 3: players that we have and what other solutions can you
Speaker 3: find at the other spots where you have needs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's these conversations you have to have because, like
Speaker 1: you said, there's hyper specific boards that could create situations
Speaker 1: where you get solutions and maybe you weren't planning on,
Speaker 1: so you have to have at least some type of
Speaker 1: conversation around these potential options to make yourself prepared for
Speaker 1: what could happen come draftneck, because it gets crazier every
Speaker 1: single year. It seems like, Okay, Kyle, we've done enough
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick talk. I think we have. Let's let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and get into the second round. Here, we'll take
Speaker 1: our first break. We've talked about the position needs. Chris
Speaker 1: Career talked about him in his press conference, like it's
Speaker 1: not really much of a mystery defensive tackle. You've got
Speaker 1: some spots to fill there. Right now, we'll see about
Speaker 1: the guard position that there's been a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about Lea Meikenberg as a competition piece at that position,
Speaker 1: which I have to imagine means another veteran or high
Speaker 1: draft pick at that position. Safety, similar thing there, and
Speaker 1: then cornerback obviously, especially in a post Ramsey world if
Speaker 1: and when they do get him traded off the roster.
Speaker 1: So looking at those four spots, and really you can
Speaker 1: go beyond that as well, but those four spots kind
Speaker 1: of the key the keys to hone in on here
Speaker 1: as you look at pick forty eight, like I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a bunch of players in those position groups that would
Speaker 1: kind of stack up in that glut you have there.
Speaker 1: What are you looking for at that position and how
Speaker 1: would it change based upon what could happen in round one,
Speaker 1: be it Baron or Johnson versus Kenneth Grant versus Starks
Speaker 1: and emon. Worry like, how does the first round impact
Speaker 1: where you might go in terms of positional value in
Speaker 1: that second round? Take us through pick forty eight.
Speaker 3: Men, Yeah, I think the only thing that would be
Speaker 3: off the board for me is potentially a double dip
Speaker 3: with the first two picks. Now, there's some spots where
Speaker 3: you could probably afford a double dip where you could
Speaker 3: probably argue at corner if you double dip, then it
Speaker 3: was Jday Baron and Benjamin Morrison, for example, the corner
Speaker 3: from Notre Dame or Savon Revel from ECU, who was
Speaker 3: a player that's right up there in the top twenty.
Speaker 3: But just like Josh Simmons has some medical background stuff
Speaker 3: that probably not willing to commit the thirteenth overall picked.
Speaker 3: But because of that and because the level of competition
Speaker 3: maybe is there later and if you wanted to double
Speaker 3: dip in that regard and kind of go to Vonte
Speaker 3: Davis Sean Smith route from that draft class where the
Speaker 3: Dolphins double dipped.
Speaker 2: On corners real early. I could get on board with
Speaker 2: that kind of vision. Now.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of other foundation work that
Speaker 3: has to be done in some other places, but generally speaking,
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if you double dipped at thirteen
Speaker 3: and forty eight. This is probably where you have potential
Speaker 3: to find a needle moving player at offensive guard that
Speaker 3: you're expecting to exclusively play offensive guard. I expect Gray's
Speaker 3: Abel from North Dakota State it's going to be gone.
Speaker 3: But Donovan Jackson from Ohio State I think has a
Speaker 3: chance to has a chance to be there. Jonas Savinaya
Speaker 3: from Arizona has a chance to be there. Tate Ratleige
Speaker 3: from Georgia probably will be there. And those are three
Speaker 3: names at that spot that I look at and say, hey,
Speaker 3: if you want invest in protecting your quarterback and getting
Speaker 3: a run game back on track, and getting more long
Speaker 3: term security for your offensive line, and getting a cost
Speaker 3: control player where all of a sudden, league average guards
Speaker 3: are costing thirteen, fourteen, nineteen million dollars a season, which
Speaker 3: he's all this year of agency, might not be a
Speaker 3: bad idea to kind of that changes the stereotypes of
Speaker 3: positional value for that position in the draft because the
Speaker 3: economics there have gone crazy the last two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I'm sitting here looking at your board thinking like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, when you first started answering that question, like
Speaker 1: he's going to talk about defensive tackles because he's got
Speaker 1: Tylee Williams at forty six, You've got Alfred Collins at
Speaker 1: forty nine, Walter Nolan at fifty one, and then I
Speaker 1: thought I had one more, but maybe I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 1: But those that's three players that could be on the
Speaker 1: board for you in that spot, and then I'm thinking
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about them. Then you talk about
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and they're all there. But now I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the cornerback spot too, and you've got guys right
Speaker 1: there as well. So it's almost like to go back
Speaker 1: to Chris Careers comments, like the draft does kind of
Speaker 1: stack up nicely for you could want. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know the question to ask because there's so
Speaker 1: many permutations of how it could go at that position,
Speaker 1: but it kind of sounds like, regardless, Mimi's going to
Speaker 1: be in a position to get a guy at forty eight.
Speaker 1: That could be a potential, you know, because like arianti Essery,
Speaker 1: here is a Minnesota attack well Marcus and Bo from
Speaker 1: Wake Forest as a guy that like, I think both
Speaker 1: those guys could possibly kick inside and play guard too.
Speaker 1: That could be part of that equation. Am I am?
Speaker 1: I looking at this as a potential, like, can we
Speaker 1: try to find a way to get two picks in
Speaker 1: this range because I kind of feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys I like in this position.
Speaker 2: Kyle, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think in a perfect world you double the amount of
Speaker 3: picks you make on day two because there's a lot
Speaker 3: of potential for players. And you mentioned corner right where
Speaker 3: if I skip the top four corners that I have
Speaker 3: on the board, including Travis Hunter, I have Trey Amos
Speaker 3: from Ole, miss Darian Porter from Iowa State, Benjamin Morrison
Speaker 3: from Notre Dame, Jacob Parish from Kansas State, Maxwell Harrison
Speaker 3: from Kentucky, azari A Thomas from Florida State. That's kind
Speaker 3: of like a collective tier of talent. That's six names
Speaker 3: at corner. Now, not all of them are gonna be there,
Speaker 3: but you mean to tell me all six are gonna
Speaker 3: be gone? And even if all six are gone, then
Speaker 3: you say, okay, defensive tackle, it's Tyler Williams, it's Alfred Collins,
Speaker 3: it's Walter Nolan. I would put Darius Alexander from Toledo
Speaker 3: in that same bucket as well, So now I got
Speaker 3: four names there, and if all those in all the
Speaker 3: corners are gone, then you shift your focus to the
Speaker 3: offensive line, and it's Donovan Jackson. Predictively speaking, I have
Speaker 3: grayz Abel in this bucket, but I think he and
Speaker 3: Tyler Booker will be gone. So it's Donovan Jackson. It's
Speaker 3: Tate Ratledge, It's Jonas Savignaya, it's ariantay Erserie, It's Marcus
Speaker 3: Imbo who can play guarder center on the interior for you,
Speaker 3: I think Charles Grant from William and Mary is probably
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a projection as a smaller
Speaker 3: school guy. Maybe you don't want to take that extra
Speaker 3: bisk but I would put him in that bucket as well,
Speaker 3: and that's Jackson, Grant, Ratledge. Savina remarks, that's six. So
Speaker 3: that's sixteen names between guard, defensive tackling corner. We didn't
Speaker 3: talk about safety yet, so it really does stack what
Speaker 3: in a perfect world you could give me two picks
Speaker 3: in the forties and fifties, you can give me a
Speaker 3: pick in the seventies, and you can give me a
Speaker 3: pick at ninety eight. And I think you have a
Speaker 3: chance to really gobble up a bunch of players. Now,
Speaker 3: I think the thing that does out of everything we
Speaker 3: just presented, the biggest thing that I would point to
Speaker 3: is at the safety position. The star semen or a
Speaker 3: tier is a tier all in and of its own.
Speaker 3: And then I think you have a Xavier Watson Andrew
Speaker 3: mccouba for me, is the next tier down. But where
Speaker 3: you have a lot of interchangeable and similar value kind
Speaker 3: of pushes closer to ninety eight in my opinion. Where
Speaker 3: now that's Lathan Ransom and Jonash Sanker and Kevin Winston
Speaker 3: and Jalen Reed and Billy Bowman, and you put Craig
Speaker 3: Woodson and Malachi Moore in that bucket as well. Caleb
Speaker 3: Ransaw has corner safety capability. Marcus Siegel from Kansas State
Speaker 3: has corner safety capability. Where you talking about ninety eight
Speaker 3: or one sixteen, So that that depth and that's where
Speaker 3: the sweet spot is for safety. So if you're not
Speaker 3: gonna go like needle moving difference maker early. I think
Speaker 3: instead of plucking one at forty eight, unless it's too
Speaker 3: good to be true player it's available, just trust that
Speaker 3: that run, you're not going to miss the entirety that run,
Speaker 3: and you'll have somebody a.
Speaker 2: Little later on.
Speaker 1: I think that shakes up quite nicely for pick forty
Speaker 1: eight and ninety eight. We kind of discussed both those
Speaker 1: there and that one question. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 1: a break right there, come back and discuss day three,
Speaker 1: and we'll conclude the podcast with a Kyle Krabs mock draft.
Speaker 1: We've already taken our first pick in the first round.
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Speaker 1: things Dolphins Draft, and Yeah, man, like, just looking at
Speaker 1: that list and the discussion about the players in that
Speaker 1: grouping like it kind of sounds like if somebody were
Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears are a team that has two
Speaker 1: picks in the forties and maybe could want to get
Speaker 1: back into that first round. I don't know what their
Speaker 1: approach would be. But that's like, that's one team that
Speaker 1: could do it. It sounds like you might be willing
Speaker 1: Kyle to get out of the first round altogether based
Speaker 1: upon what you have here in this list between you know,
Speaker 1: picks twenty five through eighty.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I think there's there is a world that
Speaker 3: exists where the player that's on the board at thirteen.
Speaker 2: Is too good to pass up. Yeah, But.
Speaker 3: When the conversation becomes the opportunity cost to move out
Speaker 3: of that player at potentially, you know, if it's a
Speaker 3: team that's in the top three that passes on a
Speaker 3: quarterback and wants to come back up and get in
Speaker 3: front of Pittsburgh. Hypothetically Cleveland has thirty three, sixty seven,
Speaker 3: ninety four, one oh four. The Giants have thirty four,
Speaker 3: sixty five and ninety nine and one oh five. And
Speaker 3: you know, so you're talking about potentially moving back twenty spots.
Speaker 2: That's a big drop.
Speaker 3: But if it's giving you the picks in this range,
Speaker 3: and there's future draft implications that comes as a result
Speaker 3: of that as well, with twenty twenty six draft capital,
Speaker 3: I would be listening. Now, I'm not guaranteeing that I
Speaker 3: would do it, but you can either try to incrementally
Speaker 3: slide your way down, or you can get a team
Speaker 3: that's really desperate that that is going to give you
Speaker 3: the Day two picks you want now and something big
Speaker 3: in the future. And if if you get that, then,
Speaker 3: especially if that team's already made a pick in the
Speaker 3: top three and got like a needle moving player elsewhere,
Speaker 3: I would listen to those phone calls for sure.
Speaker 1: And as it stands, a chance to get three impact
Speaker 1: players in those first three picks, the top one hundred
Speaker 1: of this year's draft, and at positions of need to
Speaker 1: it seems like so a pretty good stacked board here
Speaker 1: for us going into date number three. And we'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and make those picks at the end of the
Speaker 1: podcast here from Kyle. But let's go ahead and pivot
Speaker 1: on to the third day of the draft. In a
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, some folks might have some draft fatigue. The
Speaker 1: real ball knower's, the real fans of the draft will
Speaker 1: be sticking around for all four rounds on Saturday. As
Speaker 1: we get into pick one sixteen, which would be the
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick made on Day three, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this list here, you've got a couple of the guys
Speaker 1: we just talked about. You've got some interior defensive linemen,
Speaker 1: some receivers, even some more corners in this range. Kyle,
Speaker 1: you look at the third day and you know, based
Speaker 1: upon all the stuff you just discussed for the first
Speaker 1: three picks and maybe you scratch off three of the
Speaker 1: need you have, is this where you start thinking about
Speaker 1: just taking the best player, regardless of positions, because like,
Speaker 1: this is the time where it comes to like you
Speaker 1: can't really you know, parse your needs. It's like, just
Speaker 1: take the best player because this is kind of a
Speaker 1: not a crap shoot, but it's tough to find hits
Speaker 1: at this late in the draft.
Speaker 3: I kind of struggle with this, whether it's a part
Speaker 3: of me that says Day three is where you should
Speaker 3: shift your focus to addressing your needs to get more
Speaker 3: bodies in and then maybe you compliment that with veteran
Speaker 3: players and hope that develops talent. But I look at
Speaker 3: tight end, running back. We didn't talk about these positions
Speaker 3: at all, but they're kind of ancillary or complimentary players
Speaker 3: that Dolphins probably need another body at least at running back,
Speaker 3: you know, with with Raheem Moster and Jeff Wilson being gone,
Speaker 3: and off the roster. Uh, another back that you know,
Speaker 3: Alexander Madison that's not a big financial commitment to so
Speaker 3: you know he's gonna have to compete for his spot.
Speaker 3: I think you need some more competition. Day three, with
Speaker 3: those picks is the perfect kind of place to do
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: I think that you're you're.
Speaker 3: Getting into appropriate window to have another swing of the
Speaker 3: bat at the quarterback position as well, to bring in
Speaker 3: a third quarterback. I don't I don't think the Dolphins
Speaker 3: should roster just two quarters in season. I think they
Speaker 3: would benefit from having a third guy that they carry
Speaker 3: with confidence and is a cost control player at the position.
Speaker 3: And on Day three, you're kind of in the point
Speaker 3: where you're expected return on investment for those picks is
Speaker 3: diminished automatically just because of where you're at in the draft.
Speaker 3: So having somebody who has some traits that you like
Speaker 3: and you want to get in house makes all the
Speaker 3: sense in the world to me. So there's a part
Speaker 3: of me that says, hey find the needle moving players
Speaker 3: because they will find their way on the field early
Speaker 3: and then, like defensive tackle, you're going to need more
Speaker 3: than one body there. So draft for need on Day
Speaker 3: three and get a player that's a role or skill
Speaker 3: specific player, whether that's an Ane as Peoples as a
Speaker 3: penetration type player, or a Zier Stackhouse as a gap
Speaker 3: control kind of player on the interior. Like, and there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of examples of those kinds of players from
Speaker 3: top to bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you when you factor in, you know,
Speaker 1: to your point, the competition come training camp, like, these
Speaker 1: are guys that could be carving out role is two
Speaker 1: hundred three hundred snap takers like we saw last year
Speaker 1: with the concept of you know, Tier Tart, Jonathan Harris,
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore, all the guys they brought in to kind
Speaker 1: of fill out those roles, and those guys didn't wind
Speaker 1: up making the team and you wind up going Benito
Speaker 1: Jones to Sean Hand. Is your kind of rotational pieces there,
Speaker 1: And you know, when I look at this part of
Speaker 1: the draft, like to your point, we have you know,
Speaker 1: three of the ten picks from the top one hundred,
Speaker 1: but seven picks on day three, it's a good time
Speaker 1: to like, Hey, I liked a couple of these guys.
Speaker 1: Let's just get him both in here and have him
Speaker 1: compete and the best man wins, right, Like to kind
Speaker 1: of how you build that competition environment and get the
Speaker 1: best team on the field. I guess, so, okay, that's picks.
Speaker 1: That's that's in the fourth round range. We kind of
Speaker 1: move here into the fifth round here, and I think
Speaker 1: this is where you start, at least on your board,
Speaker 1: entertain the idea of a position we have not talked
Speaker 1: about yet in the quarterback spot. Which guy of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Kyle and where would they go? Do you think
Speaker 1: is the best fit for a Dolphins developmental piece behind
Speaker 1: two of the starter and Zach Wilson the backup.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Kyle McCord from Syracuse is the best style
Speaker 3: stick player. The question is does he sneak into the
Speaker 3: top one hundred? Could you get him at one sixteen?
Speaker 3: I don't know that you'd see him get into the
Speaker 3: picks in the one fifties that Miami currently scheduled to pick.
Speaker 3: I think he's the best parallel player. I do like
Speaker 3: Will Howard from Ohio State a ton and what I
Speaker 3: like about Will other than there's some mobility and size
Speaker 3: and arm strength there. He had a willingness this year
Speaker 3: to let and develop chemistry with his receivers and let
Speaker 3: those guys go make plays down the field. And when
Speaker 3: you're not a precision oriented backup court, or when you're
Speaker 3: not a precision oriented starter, where the scheme is tailored
Speaker 3: for you, if you're gonna get a backup that's gonna
Speaker 3: go in there and they're gonna say, hey, i'm gonna
Speaker 3: trust my really talented wide receivers to go make plays
Speaker 3: on the ball and give him a chance. I think
Speaker 3: that's a better world to live in than to say
Speaker 3: I don't see it clean, I'm not gonna throw it,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna take negative plays. So I think, well,
Speaker 3: and Will's got a great demeanor. If if you're a
Speaker 3: ViBe's oriented scout, you like a guy's like the aura,
Speaker 3: as the kids say, I think Will's Will really carries
Speaker 3: himself impressively. Dylan Gabriel Obviously as a left hander, there's
Speaker 3: some benefits to having another left hander in the scheme
Speaker 3: when the starter is oriented to be a left hander
Speaker 3: and how that works, and Mike McDaniels talked about that
Speaker 3: at length and if even if you wanted to wait
Speaker 3: till later, a little later, like one of these picks
Speaker 3: in the seventh round, I really like Cam Miller from
Speaker 3: North Dakota State.
Speaker 2: I think he's a.
Speaker 3: Gamer type, has some mobility, has enough arm strength. He's
Speaker 3: not gonna blow you away with his arm, but man,
Speaker 3: he operated that offense at North Dakota State at a
Speaker 3: pretty high level.
Speaker 1: So just talking about what that third quarterback if he
Speaker 1: were to be drafted, looks like for the Dolphins in
Speaker 1: terms of his like arrive and developmental plan. Like, we've
Speaker 1: had guys in the past that were, you know, long
Speaker 1: shots to make a roster right James Blackman comes to
Speaker 1: mind as a guy from the Florida State quarterback that
Speaker 1: was out here for a while and had a chance.
Speaker 1: Who was a guy last year I forget his name. Jeez. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll come back to that at some point later.
Speaker 1: But essentially they were guys that you you kind of
Speaker 1: had a feeling like he's trying to get reps, you know,
Speaker 1: for the next team, almost because there's there's depth here
Speaker 1: at this position. But if you draft a guy in
Speaker 1: this range and it is a Will Howard or it
Speaker 1: is a Kyle McCord or even someone on you know,
Speaker 1: in the seventh round, what does it look like for
Speaker 1: that player to come here when you like two was
Speaker 1: the entrench starter. Obviously, Zach Wilson's being paid and will
Speaker 1: be the backup, but most likely unless you know, it's
Speaker 1: a crazy camp for the rookie, what does it look
Speaker 1: like for that rookie who's coming here basically trying to
Speaker 1: just like you know, drink through a fire hose of
Speaker 1: NFL offense and getting ready for the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think part of that is is the benefits.
Speaker 3: And you got a little bit of look at this
Speaker 3: with quit Bell during hard knocks, but young player that
Speaker 3: can be on the run the look squad, you get
Speaker 3: reps that way too, right, So by running the opposing
Speaker 3: team stuff on installs throughout the week. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's super sustainable for the Dolphins to have a second
Speaker 3: quarterback contract with Tua and then continue to pay veteran
Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks like in the ballpark. So you're you're looking
Speaker 3: to almost kind of have.
Speaker 2: A succession in place for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3: And I know that they deferred some of the cap
Speaker 3: commitments from that year into future years where if they
Speaker 3: were to sign Zach Wilson to an extension if things
Speaker 3: go really well, or if he has to play and
Speaker 3: he plays well and they want to go that direction.
Speaker 3: They have some flexibility there, but to invent like Zach
Speaker 3: Wilson was the second biggest contract the Dolphins gave out
Speaker 3: in free agency, So when you look at it like that,
Speaker 3: you really got to sit here and ask yourself, like,
Speaker 3: how sustainable is that? And unfortunately with some of the
Speaker 3: durability stuff, that's the world that the Dolphins have to
Speaker 3: live in right now. But I think you would be
Speaker 3: far better suited looking for one or two other players
Speaker 3: elsewhere on the roster that have a lot of positional
Speaker 3: versatility so that you have the extra spot on the
Speaker 3: fifty three and then get that other player in and
Speaker 3: then you kind of have a year to decide like, hey,
Speaker 3: we saw how he took the offense. We don't have
Speaker 3: to pay another veteran quarterback because this guy grasped our
Speaker 3: offense and executed what we asked in execue throughout the
Speaker 3: course of the season.
Speaker 1: So it's more of like cause oftentimes I feel like
Speaker 1: fans like and the Joe Milton example will be the
Speaker 1: one that you can use for this. Fans will be like,
Speaker 1: if you take a quarterback and you play as well,
Speaker 1: like you can trade him for high draft picks it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe once upon time, but like people aren't
Speaker 1: coming up for second round draft picks for AJ Feeley anymore.
Speaker 1: That's just not happening anymore. So like I feel like
Speaker 1: the investment of it is like for future of your own. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're cashing out the ro I down the road, hopefully
Speaker 1: on your own in the future. Good stuff there, Kyle.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and finish this segment with this. You've
Speaker 1: you sent me so many clips of guys that I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh that we're watching you know, Marshall tape today or
Speaker 1: watching Elon tape today, whatever it might be. Is are
Speaker 1: two pretty different schools. But give me some of the
Speaker 1: guys that stood out to you that you think could
Speaker 1: be available beyond that fifth round Day three prospects, maybe
Speaker 1: even in that fifth round as well. But just talk
Speaker 1: to me about some of the sleepers that you have
Speaker 1: as favorites.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with the one I most recently was
Speaker 3: blowing your phone up about, which is JJ Roberts from Marshall.
Speaker 3: He's got a ton of pop, he's got some good
Speaker 3: striking ability as a tackler, He's got a lot of range.
Speaker 3: He can be that guy that plays high in the post,
Speaker 3: but he can fit the run.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's.
Speaker 3: Somebody who will benefit from being a little bit more
Speaker 3: calculated with some of his angles when he runs from
Speaker 3: death to support.
Speaker 2: With the run, there's sometimes where that gets the better
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 3: And he's a former corner from wake Forest, so really
Speaker 3: only started playing safety once he got the marshall two
Speaker 3: years ago. So you see some transitional stuff with him
Speaker 3: where I think he can see things faster and that
Speaker 3: should come with more reps in time and the context
Speaker 3: that he has as a player who really only made
Speaker 3: that switch recently, it gives you a little bit of
Speaker 3: context as to why maybe he's not seeing it as
Speaker 3: fast as he could if he was going to make
Speaker 3: a bunch more plays on the football. So players like that,
Speaker 3: players that had a position change late in their career
Speaker 3: and it's kind of allowed them to amplify some more
Speaker 3: of their traits. But you're looking for them to, hey,
Speaker 3: let's can you level up your game? Can you see
Speaker 3: things faster? Can you jump that rounte a little quicker?
Speaker 3: Can you actually cut that route instand the nuts is
Speaker 3: meeting the ball at the catchpoint? Like that's the kind
Speaker 3: of story where you see why it is the way
Speaker 3: it is and say, Okay, I think this guy has
Speaker 3: another gear to tap into with this position that he's playing.
Speaker 2: Now love it, man.
Speaker 1: He was, to your point, fun to watch, brought a
Speaker 1: lot of that juice checks a lot of the boxes
Speaker 1: you talked about in terms of getting more athletic, getting
Speaker 1: more kind of just dogs on defense, and being faster,
Speaker 1: more athletic, a little bit more physical and violent, good
Speaker 1: stuff all around. Let's take our last break right there,
Speaker 1: come back on the other side and pay it off.
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and have Kyle make picks beyond the
Speaker 1: first round. We already have Jday Baron from Texas slotted
Speaker 1: into that spot for Kyle on his mock draft. Here.
Speaker 1: We'll finish that out next Draft Time podcast, brought to
Speaker 1: you by Auto Nation. All Right, the time has come.
Speaker 1: The next time you hear from me on the show
Speaker 1: will be talking about a first round draft pick. And Kyle,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some liberties here to adjust as
Speaker 1: you see fit. You're the one that's been just inundated
Speaker 1: in the stuff for the last several months and really
Speaker 1: for the last decade plus with draft content. But I
Speaker 1: will give you the liberty to see how the board
Speaker 1: shakes out in terms of how you have it graded,
Speaker 1: to make the picks that you feel are possibly justifiable
Speaker 1: with that player making it there, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and just get out of the way.
Speaker 1: We already talked about today baron a lot on yesterday's podcast.
Speaker 1: So that's the pick at thirteen, correct, Yes, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: So we're done there, Pick thirteen, done. Cornerback in the
Speaker 1: bag at pick forty eight. Give me the guy that
Speaker 1: you're looking at here that could be on the board
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So my heart is telling me to pick out for
Speaker 3: Collins and go defensive tackle, but I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 3: I am going And the reason why is as I'm
Speaker 3: looking at the horizontal board and I count names at
Speaker 3: defensive tackle that I see in rounds three. In rounds four,
Speaker 3: I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Speaker 3: I have twelve names in rounds three and four at
Speaker 3: defensive tackle. If I look, I have one name maybe
Speaker 3: two in the third round at offensive guard. So the
Speaker 3: discrepancy that exists between what should be available even if
Speaker 3: a run has happens at defensive tackle, I should still
Speaker 3: like my options more at ninety eight there and you're
Speaker 3: getting into role specific players. You get undersized penetration guys,
Speaker 3: you get run stuffers that are are rick houses that
Speaker 3: are hard to move.
Speaker 2: You. You can find him.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with Jonas sab and I the
Speaker 3: offensive lineman from Arizona picked number forty eight. I think
Speaker 3: that that's a big time Neino mover. Him and Austin
Speaker 3: Jackson playing next to each other. Oh my goodness of
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 1: I love it, man. I love that pick. I love
Speaker 1: the first two round picks you made already that this
Speaker 1: football team has already gotten better based upon your draft.
Speaker 1: And this is why horizontal bards matter. We just we
Speaker 1: just talked about this and it already pays off as
Speaker 1: you go ahead and take a look at yours and say,
Speaker 1: I have a d tackle here I love, but I
Speaker 1: know I've got someone later on the draft that I
Speaker 1: could also, you know, learn to love or maybe like
Speaker 1: a little bit. And it gets me a guard that
Speaker 1: I love where I don't have that option later on.
Speaker 1: And I guess my follow up question would be this, Kyle,
Speaker 1: because you talk about, you know, getting some role specific
Speaker 1: players at defensive tackle position. You know, like we see
Speaker 1: the depth of defensive tackle behind Zach and Bdito Jones
Speaker 1: as eating bodies. But because you have Zach, does that
Speaker 1: kind of change the way you view that? Because if
Speaker 1: you were, like, you know, maybe you had like the
Speaker 1: safety group where it's like deeper than it is top heavy,
Speaker 1: maybe you do inject that with a first round pick.
Speaker 1: But because you have Zach Seeler, who can play nine
Speaker 1: hundred snaps at four positions, does that change the way
Speaker 1: you view the defensive tackle need because he's so good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know, Kalais Campbell was on
Speaker 3: a snap count last year, and then years before that
Speaker 3: it was Christian Wilkins was playing nine hundred snaps and
Speaker 3: Zach was playing eight point fifty and then they carried
Speaker 3: four and it was like Raykwon Davis was the nose
Speaker 3: that came in You had one of the backup guy
Speaker 3: who played like ten snaps a game, So life is
Speaker 3: a little different. But still having a volume snap player
Speaker 3: like a Zach Sealer, I certainly think changes the perspective
Speaker 3: there quite a bit. So I am gonna go with
Speaker 3: Savi Andaya expecting that there's gonna be a name there,
Speaker 3: and I know what I'm eyeing for pick number ninety eight,
Speaker 3: and it's it's gonna help that group on the defensive front.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a change from the previous discussion we
Speaker 1: talked about this is a good spot being a good
Speaker 1: spot for a safety. So sounds like we're run back
Speaker 1: to defensive tackle at pick ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna go.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Jday Baron at thirteen, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: Jonas Savina at forty eight, and then I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: with Jordan Phillips defensive tackle for Maryland. Not that Jordan Phillips,
Speaker 3: but he relax.
Speaker 2: It's is one of the youngest players in the draft.
Speaker 3: He's red shirt sophomore that declared and went to the
Speaker 3: Shrine and has a ton of athletic potential. But getting
Speaker 3: to see him up close in the Shrine, he is built.
Speaker 3: He's built like a three hundred and ten pounds Deshawan
Speaker 3: hand where just very dense top to bottom, very thick
Speaker 3: kind of frame. I think he can play some odd
Speaker 3: front end and I think he can play in the
Speaker 3: A gaps for you as well as as an early
Speaker 3: down guy.
Speaker 1: I love it. So I think we've made the foot
Speaker 1: ball team better for the first three picks. I think
Speaker 1: all three of those guys. I think you've got two
Speaker 1: surefire stars and your first two picks. I think the
Speaker 1: third pick is going to be a heavy rotational guy
Speaker 1: as well. So you've done a great job so far.
Speaker 1: How about as we get on today three here early
Speaker 1: in the third day, pick one sixteen, where we going.
Speaker 3: So one one sixteen, I am going to stay at
Speaker 3: defensive tackle and I'm gonna draft Ty Robinson from Nebraska.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 3: First team All Motor, try hard, his tape is awesome.
Speaker 3: He's not a big time pass rusher, but he's a
Speaker 3: big time like line of scrimmage compression player. But I
Speaker 3: think with the Dolphins and their their rest of their
Speaker 3: pass rush group, between Zach and the guys that they
Speaker 3: have on the edge, and what Jordan Brooks has and
Speaker 3: can bring to the table, and now you add Willie
Speaker 3: Gay into that mix, like, I think you have enough
Speaker 3: other dynamic pieces where I'm not really sweating, like, hey,
Speaker 3: we need two pass rusher types at defensive tackle. So
Speaker 3: I'm gonna double dip and go Jordan Phillips and Ty
Speaker 3: Robinson with ninety eight and one sixteen to kind of
Speaker 3: help out the interior defensive line.
Speaker 1: There's your defensive tackle. Double dip in your depth at
Speaker 1: that position, Kyle, we've got about four minutes left. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and get through. Uh picks one thirty five
Speaker 1: and one or yeah, one thirty five, one fifty, one
Speaker 1: fifty five here if you can, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So one thirty five I am going to go with.
Speaker 3: Let's go the safety here. Let's go Billy Bowman from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: Fe.
Speaker 1: I love this draft so much.
Speaker 2: So there's some concern.
Speaker 3: About the tackling it's twenty five percent career mistackle rate,
Speaker 3: but the ability to make plays on the ball and coverage.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great player to Addie many plays
Speaker 3: super chip. He's got a big time tche too, So
Speaker 3: I like that a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's that that helps the tackling down
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 3: So that's at least one fifty and one fifty five.
Speaker 2: Yes, I will go with.
Speaker 3: Tight end to Jay Kanyers from Texas Tech at one p.
Speaker 2: Fifty.
Speaker 3: This is if you miss Tyler Warren. He does some
Speaker 3: similar things at Texas Tech. He was at Arizona State.
Speaker 3: They have a direct snap package for him. Used to
Speaker 3: be a high school quarterback, like really good athlete. I
Speaker 3: think Mike McDaniel could get a lot of run out
Speaker 3: of him. And then I will go with the quarterback
Speaker 3: O go Dylan Gabriel from Oregon at one to fifty five.
Speaker 1: There you go. The needs are checking off the list.
Speaker 1: You got your developmental quarterback, you got your big tight end. There,
Speaker 1: give me your three picks on date on in the
Speaker 1: seventh round, Cole, and I'm sure there's a receiver here
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at that you like a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jackson Meeks with one of those picks,
Speaker 3: a big bodied wide receiver from Syracuse, so I'll add
Speaker 3: him into the mix.
Speaker 2: I will add.
Speaker 3: Let's go into zer stackhouse nose tackle, true nose tackle
Speaker 3: from Georgia. I think that's a it's a low volume
Speaker 3: snap taker, but you know you really didn't get that
Speaker 3: with either of the other two players are a little
Speaker 3: bit more hybrid type players. And then the last pick
Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll go back to the offensive line and
Speaker 3: draft Connor Colby from Iowa, who is a tailor made
Speaker 3: wide zone type of player to compete for a roster.
Speaker 1: Spot and You're getting a guy that fits the system
Speaker 1: in that spot that you can develop long term. So
Speaker 1: I love that. Jday Baron, Jonas Savinaya, Jordan Phillips, Ty Robinson.
Speaker 1: You're back to back defensive tackles. Safety Billy Bowman Jr.
Speaker 1: Tied end Jalen Conyers, quarterback, Dylan Gabriel, wide receiver Jackson Meeks.
Speaker 1: We come back for a third defensive tackle, a nose
Speaker 1: tackle in Azier Stackhouse and Connor Colby out of Iowa. Kyle,
Speaker 1: you killed it, man. We appreciate your time. We have
Speaker 1: one minute left in the show, so I'll go ahead
Speaker 1: and get you out of here. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: video of Chris Fowler taking on the throat regiment that
Speaker 1: go take one of those. I ressed up that voice,
Speaker 1: my friend. You've been You've recorded probably what forty thousand
Speaker 1: words worth of content today, So appreciate your time at
Speaker 1: Kyle Crabs on Social Lockdown, Dolphins podcast, Touchdown Miami, on
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting, as well as the thirty third team Draft League. Kyle,
Speaker 1: you're the man. Appreciate dude. Thanks Travis and the way
Speaker 1: he goes and away we go until Thursday night. We'll
Speaker 1: hear for you guys, or you will hear from me rather,
Speaker 1: I should say, after the Dolphins make their pick, the
Speaker 1: whole night comes to an end, We'll have coverage on
Speaker 1: pick thirteen. We'll have coverage on the McDaniel Greer joint
Speaker 1: press conference after the first round is over, and take
Speaker 1: a look at round two. On Friday, we'll go over
Speaker 1: the second third round pick the press conference again and
Speaker 1: do the same thing for Day three and run it
Speaker 1: back on Day three. Busy week of podcast here. We're
Speaker 1: going to have all the draft picks on the show
Speaker 1: as well, So plenty of content coming your way here
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