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Speaker 3: So Michael Parson says that the Hall of Fame is
Speaker 3: not a big enough accomplishment. He said he wants to
Speaker 3: be known as one of the greatest Hall of famers.
Speaker 3: Is he already a lock for Hall of Fame or
Speaker 3: is he getting ahead of himself?
Speaker 2: So he's obviously getting ahead of himself. And I think
Speaker 2: people underestimate, not just players, fans, media, how difficult the
Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Fame is to get into the finalists
Speaker 2: for this past year guys, and when you look at
Speaker 2: guys who didn't make it. If we do the finalist
Speaker 2: or hell that the twenty six semi finalists for the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame this past season. You have some great
Speaker 2: players who didn't even then make the finalist list. Eric
Speaker 2: Allen not a finalist, Jared Allen Jared Allen was a finalist,
Speaker 2: didn't make it. Willie Anderson didn't make it, and Guambalden
Speaker 2: wasn't even a finalist. Tony BASSELLI, I don't even think
Speaker 2: he was a finalist. Let me make sure I'm right.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he was a finalist, but he did not
Speaker 2: make it. Pardon me. Eddie George not a finalist. Devin
Speaker 2: Hester didn't make it, Tory Holt, Andre Johnson did not
Speaker 2: make it, Richard Seymour did not make it. So Reggie
Speaker 2: Wayne did not make it. Patrick Willis did not make it.
Speaker 2: Patrick Willis. So people throw So, of course Mike is
Speaker 2: off to a good start. That he's got to do
Speaker 2: what he's done the first couple years of his career
Speaker 2: for the next decade. So what's the follow up question here?
Speaker 3: Doora which current NFL players are a lock for the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Colin did this on TV yesterday. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do a slightly different version, and we will go team
Speaker 2: by team and and list everyone. And I should have
Speaker 2: given the producers the heads up on this if someone
Speaker 2: with our wonderful Blue Duck production staff in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: can just start a document or jot something down, and
Speaker 2: every player that I list put in whichever category. So
Speaker 2: the categories that I have are locks, likely, good start,
Speaker 2: and not quite. I think those are the categories that
Speaker 2: I have, and may you know, throw possible on there
Speaker 2: as well, and we'll see what we come up with
Speaker 2: at the end of it. I'm just gonna go team
Speaker 2: by team the way they're listed in the standings, and
Speaker 2: we'll go through it. The Dallas Cowboys have as many possibles,
Speaker 2: are not even necessarily possible, as we're gonna list as
Speaker 2: many names with the Cowboys as any team, and it's
Speaker 2: only three names. So Tyrone Smith is a likely Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. He is not a lock Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: not yet. But Tyron Smith He's got eight Pro Bowls,
Speaker 2: four All Pros, he was on an All Decade team.
Speaker 2: Even that at an offensive line as an offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: I can't call him a lock, but he is a
Speaker 2: likely Hall of Famer, as is his offensive line mate
Speaker 2: Zach Martin. Zach Martin, who's been the best guard in
Speaker 2: the league for quite some time. He has eight Pro Bowls,
Speaker 2: eight All Pros, including six First Team All Pro? Why
Speaker 2: is he not a lock for the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: and he's damn close. The answer to that is, it
Speaker 2: is incredibly difficult to get in as a guard, incredibly difficult.
Speaker 2: He is close to a lock. He is not quite
Speaker 2: a lock, but he is a very likely Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith is a likely Hall of Famer. Micah Parsons
Speaker 2: is in the good start category. It's a great start,
Speaker 2: but I'm not ready at all to he's got again
Speaker 2: another half decade plus of this level of production. The
Speaker 2: Giants have no one that comes to that is in
Speaker 2: the discussion. The Eagles have one person, Jason Kelcey, and
Speaker 2: I think he is a lock. Jason Kelsey is by
Speaker 2: some people consider him the best center ever. He's a
Speaker 2: five time I'm First Team All Pro. And whether it
Speaker 2: should matter or it shouldn't because his resume probably is
Speaker 2: not quite as impressive as Zach Martin's. But you got
Speaker 2: to keep in mind when it comes to first team
Speaker 2: All Pros, there's only one center. There's two guard positions available,
Speaker 2: and the fact that he's won two Super Bowls, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: one to one super Bowl, played in another Super Bowl
Speaker 2: is going to help him greatly. He's a lock Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. No one else on the Eagles is even
Speaker 2: really in the discussion, and you can say you're not
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox. Matt mentioned just to me in my ear,
Speaker 2: and I was gonna go through it, and Matt, please
Speaker 2: keep doing that if you think there's someone I'm way overlooking.
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox, to me is a great example of how
Speaker 2: hard it is to make the Hall of Fame. Fletcher
Speaker 2: Cox is a very good player. He is not a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player. Fletcher Cox is not better than
Speaker 2: Richard Seymour was, and Richard Seymour might never get in.
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cox is not better than Bryant Young was, and
Speaker 2: Bryant Young might never get in. Fletcher Cox is very
Speaker 2: very good. He's not a Hall of Famer. Washington obviously
Speaker 2: has no one, and that takes care of the NFC East.
Speaker 2: The Bears have no one, the Lions have no one.
Speaker 2: The Packers becomes an interesting discussion with one guy, David Bachtiori.
Speaker 2: David Bachtiori three time Pro bowler, five time All Pro,
Speaker 2: two time first team All Pro. To me, David boch
Speaker 2: Tiori just misses. He's behind Tyron Smith. As far as
Speaker 2: tackles from his era, He's obviously behind a guy we're
Speaker 2: gonna get to in a bit in tackles from his era.
Speaker 2: I think David Baktiari just misses, so that means the
Speaker 2: Packers have no one the Vikings justin Jefferson good start category,
Speaker 2: way too early, but the start couldn't possibly be stronger.
Speaker 2: The guy averages basically one hundred yards a game for
Speaker 2: his career, He's been spectacular. He just got voted number
Speaker 2: two on the NFL's Top one hundred list, which is remarkable.
Speaker 2: I think it's the highest receivers ever been on that list.
Speaker 2: He gets the good start category. The Falcons the only
Speaker 2: person they have, and I think people maybe forget that
Speaker 2: he plays for this team. I forgot he played for
Speaker 2: this team because he hadn't played for him yet. Is
Speaker 2: Kalays Campbell. Kalayus Campbell is in the just missus category.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine sacks, only three All pros Now he wasn't
Speaker 2: All Decade member, which helps him. But I think kalay
Speaker 2: Is Campbell just misses. The Saints have one person that's
Speaker 2: Cam Jordan, and he is going to be I think
Speaker 2: people he's going to be a controversial one. But the
Speaker 2: numbers are jarring for Cam Jordan. Cam Jordan, who just
Speaker 2: signed an extension, has one one hundred and fifteen and
Speaker 2: a half career sacks. So when you look at the
Speaker 2: all time leaders for sacks, and I understand it's a
Speaker 2: stat that only been kept, you know, over the last
Speaker 2: forty years, but if we go to it and pro
Speaker 2: the official leaders on all time sacks, he's twenty third.
Speaker 2: If he gets another ten sacks in his career, he
Speaker 2: moves into the top twenty. He is eight sacks behind
Speaker 2: Robert Mathis and eight sacks behind Von Miller. He's ten
Speaker 2: sacks behind Dwight Freeney and guys ahead of him on
Speaker 2: the official leader board. Now, Football Reference did a cool
Speaker 2: thing where they went back and counted the unofficial sacks.
Speaker 2: But Cam Jordan, if we just go by the official
Speaker 2: leader board, cam Jordan has more than JJ Watt, who
Speaker 2: just retired and is an absolute, no doubt lock Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. It's one more, but it's more guys with
Speaker 2: more sacks than Cam Jordan. I'll go through them quickly
Speaker 2: and tell you if they're not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Bruce Smith, Reggie White, Kevin Green, Julius Pepper's not in,
Speaker 2: but will be. He hadn't been retired long enough. Chris Dolman,
Speaker 2: Michael Strahand, Jason Taylor, Terrell Suggs. Suggs not in, but
Speaker 2: will be. DeMarcus where Richard Dent, John Randall, Jared Allen
Speaker 2: at one thirty six. He's a finalist but hasn't gotten
Speaker 2: in yet. John Abraham not in and doesn't look like
Speaker 2: he's gonna get in. Leslie O'Neill, Lawrence Taylor, Richie Jackson,
Speaker 2: Ricky Jackson, pardon me, Derek Thomas, Freeney, who's waiting? Von Miller,
Speaker 2: Robert Mathis, Simeon Rice, Clyde Simmons, Cam Jordan. None of
Speaker 2: those guys are in. So my point is he gets
Speaker 2: ten more sacks. He's almost assuredly getting in. He just
Speaker 2: signed an extension. He is not a but he is
Speaker 2: a likely Hall of Famer. The Bucks have have one guy.
Speaker 2: Oh so the the Cruisers remind me Jimmy Graham is
Speaker 2: now in the Saints again. Jimmy Graham, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: has no chance of being a Hall of Famer. Uh.
Speaker 2: He's a two time All Pro. He has gaudy touchdown numbers,
Speaker 2: but not much else. Jimmy Graham to me is I
Speaker 2: didn't even consider him, and it's not well, it's partially
Speaker 2: because I forgot that he had resigned with the Saints.
Speaker 2: He's not a Hall of Famer. The Bucks people are
Speaker 2: gonna bring up there's only one person they're gonna bring up,
Speaker 2: Mike Evans. Mike Evans to me, is once again a
Speaker 2: very very good player who has never not a day
Speaker 2: ben Was there ever a discussion is he the best
Speaker 2: receiver in the league. There's never been a discussion. Is
Speaker 2: he the second best receiver in the league. He has
Speaker 2: one really impressive stat which is he has started his
Speaker 2: career with nine consecutive thousand yard seasons or is it
Speaker 2: ten consecutive? It is how many seasons has he played.
Speaker 2: He's done it every single year. It's nine consecutive thousand
Speaker 2: yard seasons. I do not think he gets in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. To me, he is if Andre Johnson
Speaker 2: and Reggie Wayne and Tory Holt, we don't know if
Speaker 2: they're getting in. There is no argument that Mike Evans
Speaker 2: gets in. So Mike Evans, to me, is not quite.
Speaker 2: The Rams obviously have one guy. It's Aaron Donald. He's
Speaker 2: a one hundred percent lock. There is not even It's
Speaker 2: not even worth discussing Stafford. It's also not worth discussing
Speaker 2: He's not even close. The Cardinals have no one. The
Speaker 2: forty nine ers have one lock in. Trent Williams been
Speaker 2: the best left tackle in the league for a decade.
Speaker 2: He is, and that is gonna hurt boch Tiori because
Speaker 2: how many left tackles from one ear are gonna make it.
Speaker 2: Trent Williams is in, is going to be in. Tyron
Speaker 2: Smith is in root, so I think that hurts Bocktori.
Speaker 2: Nicky Bosa is in the good Stark category. Need a
Speaker 2: lot more sample, but he's in the good Stark category.
Speaker 2: And George Kittle is the very very good, not a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. And then the Seattle Seahawks have one guy,
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner, who to me is an absolute lock. So
Speaker 2: the entirety of the NFC, what we have is the
Speaker 2: following And I said, We're gonna spend a lot of
Speaker 2: time on this. I think it's fun exercise. Jason Kelsey,
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Trent Williams. In the entirety of the NFC,
Speaker 2: there are three Lock Hall of Famers active right now
Speaker 2: in the entirety of say that again, Matt sorry, uh oh,
Speaker 2: and Bobby Wagner. Pardon me, I forgot to Yes, you're right.
Speaker 2: So there's four. Thank you, I had just said, Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 2: I didn't put Lock next to his name on my
Speaker 2: little document that I'm making. Thank you for that. So
Speaker 2: there's four Bobby Wagner, Trent Williams, Aaron Donald, and Jason
Speaker 2: Kelsey in the entirety of the NFC. As far as
Speaker 2: guys that are in root, it would appear you have
Speaker 2: Tyrone Smith, Zach Martin who is approaching lock category, Cam
Speaker 2: Jordan as like Lee's, and then I put Nick Bosa
Speaker 2: and Micah Parsons and Justin Jefferson in the good start category.
Speaker 2: That's the NFC to the AFC. The Bills have one
Speaker 2: no doubt Hall of Famer. We all know who he is,
Speaker 2: Von Miller. Von Miller is a no doubt Lock Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. There's no scenario where he doesn't get in.
Speaker 2: He might be a first ballot guy. He's a lock.
Speaker 2: I people are gonna say, Nick, where's Josh Allen on
Speaker 2: this right now? He's not. He's not even close. And
Speaker 2: you can't even put him in the good start category
Speaker 2: because for a quarterback there's some benchmarks you've got to hit.
Speaker 2: He's not either playoff success or MVPs or something. He's
Speaker 2: not there. So it's just von Miller right now. The
Speaker 2: Dolphins are an interesting team here. I believe at this
Speaker 2: point tyreek Kill is a lock. Hall of Famer. Tyreek
Speaker 2: Kill is one of the most notable players of his era.
Speaker 2: He made an All Decade Team, he is a four
Speaker 2: time first team All Pro and absolutely if you ask
Speaker 2: the question, was he ever considered the best receiver in
Speaker 2: the league, the answer was yes. Now, it wasn't unanimous,
Speaker 2: but the answer was yes. He's a lock. Then there's
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey, who and this is why Micah's comments are
Speaker 2: so interesting, where he's like, you know, I want to
Speaker 2: be one of the best Hall of Famers ever. Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 2: through four years of his career, looked like he was
Speaker 2: gonna be a no doubter. Doubt is starting to creep
Speaker 2: in He's a three time first team All Pro, but
Speaker 2: this year is going to be basically a lost year,
Speaker 2: which means the next season he plays will be his
Speaker 2: age thirty season. I have him listed Jalen Ramsey in
Speaker 2: the likely category because he was considered the best corner
Speaker 2: in the league for a period of time, but he
Speaker 2: is not a lock, and he maybe deserves to be
Speaker 2: in the possible category rather than the likely category. He's
Speaker 2: a tough one. The Patriots have no one. The Jets
Speaker 2: obviously have Aaron Rodgers as a lock, and that's it.
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson, We're not gonna even call it good start
Speaker 2: yet for him. It's one year. Quinn Williams, no like
Speaker 2: it's you can't even call it good start yet, you'd
Speaker 2: have to be even better than he's been. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: is a lock, and that's it. The Browns have one guy,
Speaker 2: and he is. He's a hard one to even put
Speaker 2: in a category. I'm gonna call him likely because the
Speaker 2: guy is he's been in the league too long to
Speaker 2: just say good start, but he hasn't done enough yet
Speaker 2: for him to be anywhere close to a lock. And
Speaker 2: that's Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett has seventy five sacks in
Speaker 2: eighty four career games. He has been his sacks by
Speaker 2: season seven is a rookie then thirteen, ten, twelve, sixteen, sixteen,
Speaker 2: to go along with as far as TfL's nine, twelve, eleven, ten,
Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen. He is a four time All Pro, a
Speaker 2: four time Pro bowler, But as we demonstrated previously, he
Speaker 2: has to almost duplicate these last five years for the
Speaker 2: next five years to be a lock. He in the
Speaker 2: likely category. The Bengals have two obvious guys in the
Speaker 2: good Stark category, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. They are
Speaker 2: way too young to put past that, but they're both
Speaker 2: in the good Stark category. The Steelers have one guy
Speaker 2: in the good Stark category and one guy in the
Speaker 2: not quite category. The good stark category is obviously TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2: They're not quite category is Cam Hayward. The Ravens have
Speaker 2: one guy that's a lock. Know who he is their kicker,
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker. He is a Lock Hall of Famer. If
Speaker 2: you're gonna put ever put more kickers in, it has
Speaker 2: to be him. He's a Lock Hall of Famer. The
Speaker 2: Titans have one guy who I think is a likely
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. Now. I don't know that his career
Speaker 2: numbers are going to stack up to the other great
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame running backs, but what helps him so
Speaker 2: much is he has the distinction I was, unquestioned the
Speaker 2: best of my position of my era, and that's Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2: And because of that, he's not a lock, but to
Speaker 2: me he's likely. He also, right now is the only
Speaker 2: person in his entire division that even made the discussion.
Speaker 2: I'd love to call Saint Trevor's off to a good start.
Speaker 2: You can't say that. I gotta be fair here as
Speaker 2: far as Hall of Fame goes, the Colts, Jags, and
Speaker 2: Texans have no one worth discussing. The Titans only have
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, and that brings us to our last division.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have two dead set go ahead.
Speaker 3: Your overtime in the first question.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I said this one was gonna be long,
Speaker 2: but I think this is a good exercise. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: have too obvious no question locks in Mahomes and Kelsey.
Speaker 2: And I know Mahomes has only started for five years.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. Two super Bowls, two MVPs, two Super Bowl MVPs.
Speaker 2: The only people with multiple Super Bowls and multiple Super
Speaker 2: Bowl MVPs and multiple regular season MVPs are Joe Montana,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, and Patrick Mahomes. He is a no doubt
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, and Kelsey's the greatest tight endeavor. Chris
Speaker 2: Jones is a little old for this. I can't put
Speaker 2: him in the likely category because he's not that yet.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put him in the good start category even
Speaker 2: though he's a little old for that, because A his
Speaker 2: numbers are eye popping, especially that position. B. If the
Speaker 2: Chiefs win another Super Bowl in the next couple years
Speaker 2: and they are can considered a dynasty, they will get
Speaker 2: some bonus spots for their players in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and Tyreek was only there for one of them Mahomes
Speaker 2: and Kelsey, Obviously, Chris Jones is the clear cut guy
Speaker 2: that would slide into that next spot. Davonte Adams for
Speaker 2: the Raiders. He's the only person that I even considered.
Speaker 2: Chandler Jones to me is in that not quite category.
Speaker 2: Davante I put as a possible. He's a three time
Speaker 2: All Pro, six time Pro bowler. We've talked about how
Speaker 2: hard the receiver position is. We'll see how much longer
Speaker 2: he's great for, but we're gonna call him possible. The
Speaker 2: Chargers right now have nobody. Joey Bosa is really good.
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a Hall of Fame career up to
Speaker 2: this point. Neither has Khalil Mack. Neither is Derwin James
Speaker 2: obviously not justin Herbert and then maybe and this is
Speaker 2: the last one, maybe the most interesting Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: litmus test on this list, and I have him as
Speaker 2: a possible. Russell Wilson with the Broncos. Russell Wilson, nine
Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler, but zero first team All pros, one
Speaker 2: second team All Pro. And if he if this era
Speaker 2: of his career is a disaster, I think he plays
Speaker 2: himself out of the Hall of Fame. So there's the
Speaker 2: entirety of it. You, okay, Scoot, it's crazy because you
Speaker 2: haven't had to do anything yet and you're just out
Speaker 2: here just dying. I'm just telling you, I mean, you
Speaker 2: just out you're dying. So there it is. So the
Speaker 2: once again, much like what we did on Thursday that
Speaker 2: I said, I hope was as interesting the audience it was.
Speaker 2: To me, that's everyone in the league. It is incredibly
Speaker 2: difficult to even become a Hall of Fame finalist, much
Speaker 2: less make it. By my count, there are only let
Speaker 2: me make sure I'm right on this, we had four
Speaker 2: locks in the NFC as far as no question about it, Kelsey, Donald,
Speaker 2: Williams Wagner. In the AFC we have Von Miller, Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, Justin, Tucker Mahomes, and Kelsey. So that is
Speaker 2: six more locks with about a dozen other like lees.
Speaker 2: At any given time, guys, you're probably probably only watching
Speaker 2: twenty active Hall of Famers and that's where we're at
Speaker 2: and that's how I see it playing out. So again,
Speaker 2: you guys can include in your comments or questions your thoughts.
Speaker 2: We'll do that. Actually before the sea block, we'll do
Speaker 2: this Excite Right thing, deor you want to tell them
Speaker 2: about it right here, if you're feeling up to it,
Speaker 2: you're just so rude, go ahead.
Speaker 3: If you guys think that we missed anyone, that you
Speaker 3: could put it in the chat for the first edition
Speaker 3: of Excite Right and we'll explain what that is later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also there are some guys that just retired
Speaker 2: or aren't currently on rosters but haven't announced their retirement
Speaker 2: that are interesting discussions as well. We can get to
Speaker 2: them there also, but let's do the rest of the
Speaker 2: show now door.
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis signed a MAX extension and is tied to
Speaker 3: the Lakers through twenty twenty eight. LA has a massive
Speaker 3: off season and now their future is secure. Is this
Speaker 3: a smart move by LA?
Speaker 2: It's a no doubt move. It's unquestionably the right move
Speaker 2: for two reasons. One is Anthony Davis could have been
Speaker 2: a free agent after this coming season if they didn't
Speaker 2: do this. He had an early termination option, which is
Speaker 2: similar to a player option. He could just end his
Speaker 2: contract a year early. You can't let Anthony Davis hit
Speaker 2: free agency. He's coming off his second best season as
Speaker 2: a Laker, his second best playoff run of his career.
Speaker 2: And I understand the Nuggets swept the Lakers, but if
Speaker 2: you are trying to get through the Nuggets, you need
Speaker 2: to have a seven footer that they at least have
Speaker 2: to deal with, and as far as people alive, if
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get through Nikolajokic, yes, my number one
Speaker 2: draft pick for who I would want is Giannis, but
Speaker 2: you could make an argument the number two draft pick
Speaker 2: is Anthony Davis. He's more of a proven playoff commodity
Speaker 2: than Joel Embiid. His postseason health history is not worse
Speaker 2: than Embiid's, and even if you wouldn't beat ahead of him,
Speaker 2: then eighty is third. Like for the rest of AD's prime,
Speaker 2: Jokich is gonna be the Western Conference end boss, at
Speaker 2: least for the near future. This was an absolute no brainer.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, Okay, Jamar Chase wants Joe Burrow to
Speaker 3: be careful, not rushing back from injury. He said, as
Speaker 3: long as you're there after week five and on, you're good. Brother.
Speaker 3: How close is this to jos We're fine in the
Speaker 3: West statement.
Speaker 2: It's a second cousin of it. I listen. I agree
Speaker 2: with Jamar's analysis. I think the Bengals have to be
Speaker 2: super careful with Joe, and not just because he could
Speaker 2: reaggravate the calf, but if the calf isn't fully healthy
Speaker 2: and he's not able to escape a big hit, he
Speaker 2: could suffer a different type of injury, or more devastating injury.
Speaker 2: So I agree they've got to be super careful with him.
Speaker 2: I do think Jamar is a little bit putting the
Speaker 2: cart ahead of the horse when he's talking about we've
Speaker 2: got bearer goals. We just need you for the end
Speaker 2: of the season. That's that part is maybe a little premature,
Speaker 2: but the general sentiment is exactly correct. The general sentiment
Speaker 2: that they need to be super cautious with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: And by the way, their Week one game is against
Speaker 2: the Browns, which is the team Joe Burrow's had the
Speaker 2: most trouble within his career. He has five picks in
Speaker 2: five games, he's only beat him once. So maybe Joe
Speaker 2: sitting out that game is not the worst thing in
Speaker 2: the world to begin with. I would be super cautious
Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow. I agree with Jamar there. I think
Speaker 2: some of the other commentary is again maybe a little premature,
Speaker 2: but I'm fine with it all right.
Speaker 3: Last, Mike arrabel is turning over head coaching duties to
Speaker 3: assistant Tarra Williams in the first preseason game. Should more
Speaker 3: coaches be following suit?
Speaker 2: So I had never thought of this, and now that
Speaker 2: somebody's done it, and I'm like, oh, that's obvious. And
Speaker 2: it's one of those things that I can't say it's
Speaker 2: obvious because I had never thought of it, but it
Speaker 2: now feels like, oh, yeah, of course, and I think
Speaker 2: it's a great idea. I think this is pretty clearly
Speaker 2: forward thinking and it's going to a I think it's
Speaker 2: going to give him a better From a selfish perspective,
Speaker 2: it gives him a better chance of acquiring better, young,
Speaker 2: up and coming coaches for his staff because he's giving
Speaker 2: them opportunities. From a self list perspective, it's a great
Speaker 2: opportunity for Royle Williams. And it is absolutely the type
Speaker 2: of thing. Now that I see it, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I wish that Reid had done this with the enemy,
Speaker 2: and that you had other teams, other coaches who have
Speaker 2: guys on like should Belichick do it with Gerard Mayo,
Speaker 2: who's a potential coach in waiting. Are there other teams
Speaker 2: that should consider doing this if the head coach is
Speaker 2: fully entrenched. Absolutely so. I think that's a great job
Speaker 2: by Mike Vrabel. I think it's smart. I think it's
Speaker 2: helpful for his team. I think it's helpful for his staff.
Speaker 2: I think this is one of those things that is again,
Speaker 2: now that someone's done it, it seems like a no
Speaker 2: brainer that more teams should do it. All right, We'll
Speaker 2: see who you guys think deserved more discussion on the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Plus we play a game of right
Speaker 2: or Wrong and talk a little Women's World Cup. All
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Speaker 3: Okay, So, at the top of the show, which was
Speaker 3: honestly only like five minutes ago, we talked to Michael
Speaker 3: Parson's aiming for the Hall of Fame and asked who
Speaker 3: you think will get in. Here's who, Here's who the
Speaker 3: Chat has as their Hall of Fame contenders. Yep, are
Speaker 3: you in or out? A few mentioned DeAndre Hopkins on Titans.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I should have at least mentioned him.
Speaker 2: I DeAndre was looking like he was going to be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer the last couple seasons in Arizona,
Speaker 2: and the fact that he's now a Titan, I think
Speaker 2: is he's now in the not quite category, which is
Speaker 2: amazing to me. And there are just at that position
Speaker 2: right now, Andre Johnson, who Andre Johnson with terrible quarterbacks
Speaker 2: plus a few years of Matt SHAWB who was fine
Speaker 2: but not great, had fourteen thousand yards seventy touchdowns. DeAndre
Speaker 2: has eleven thousand yards seventy one touchdowns. And Andre has
Speaker 2: been waiting. So and Andre, to me passes the test
Speaker 2: of were you, for an extended period of time the
Speaker 2: best or the second best at your position? Unquestionably? Yes.
Speaker 2: So I I think right now Deandres and not quite.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you somebody else who I get I
Speaker 2: believe will get in. But people treat him like he
Speaker 2: is going to walk in first ballot, and I do
Speaker 2: not think that is the case. But I do think
Speaker 2: he'll get in. And is he even on a team
Speaker 2: right now? No, right now, he's not. And that's Julio Jones.
Speaker 2: Julio Jones. Now he also passes the test of was
Speaker 2: he the best in the world for a period of time.
Speaker 2: But Julio, if he doesn't play again, if again, if
Speaker 2: we use the Andre Johnson standard, Julio has thirteen thousand
Speaker 2: yards and sixty three touchdowns. That's fewer than Andre in
Speaker 2: both categories, and Andre is not in. So again, I
Speaker 2: just think people underestimate how difficult it is. But all right,
Speaker 2: what's who's the next person people mentioned?
Speaker 3: Andrew Ortiz says Stefan Gilmore from the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Steven Gilmore is not a Hall of Famer. I know,
Speaker 2: we wanted Defensive Player of the Year award. Uh he's not.
Speaker 2: He's just not a Hall of Famer and he's not
Speaker 2: gonna be a be a particularly difficult case. It's five
Speaker 2: time Pro bowler, two time All Pro, very very good player.
Speaker 2: He's not a Hall of Famer. Go ahead, Team.
Speaker 3: Maine and others said Lane Johnson Philly.
Speaker 2: I should have mentioned him as a possible I don't think.
Speaker 2: I know. Again, people throw around future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson right now. He doesn't have the bona fides.
Speaker 2: He's just a three time All Pro, four time Pro bowler,
Speaker 2: and he's thirty three playing right tackle. God dogg it,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be hard. Jason Kelsey is a lock. I
Speaker 2: think Lane is probably a not quite maybe he maybe
Speaker 2: he should be a possible. I certainly should have mentioned him.
Speaker 2: That was my mistake, not even mentioning him. But I
Speaker 2: think he's probably just on the outside all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Nasdab said Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2: This is not even a discussion. Cooper Cup had one
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame caliber season, one other really good season.
Speaker 2: He's I think he's already thirty. It's not even and
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be rude to the Yeah, he
Speaker 2: just turned thirty. He has no chance. There's literally no
Speaker 2: chance for Cooper Cup. If he duplicated his entire career
Speaker 2: up to this point in his thirties, he still probably
Speaker 2: doesn't get in. That would put him at twelve thousand yards,
Speaker 2: ninety touchdowns, and maybe that would get him in, but
Speaker 2: he's not gonna duplicate that in his thirties, so it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He has one Pro Bowl, one All Pro,
Speaker 2: one all time season, when he won the Triple Crown.
Speaker 2: It was a great year, but he is not even
Speaker 2: close to a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: Next okay, Francisco. Francisco said Honey Badger from the Saints.
Speaker 2: I I really like Tyron Matthew won a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs. He does have that all decade team
Speaker 2: under his belt, but he's not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Very very good player, not a Hall of famer, all right.
Speaker 3: Next okay, Austin Patrick Peterson and Mink.
Speaker 2: Minka Fitzpatrick Patrick Peterson was on So my list of
Speaker 2: guys who just retired. Uh so, Minka, I would put
Speaker 2: in I guess the good start category. He's he has
Speaker 2: to do far more. But he's a three time All
Speaker 2: Pro already, so he hasn't played nearly long enough. Patrick Peterson,
Speaker 2: I believe, is a Hall of Famer, but he's not
Speaker 2: an active player anymore. Oh is Patrick Peterson an active
Speaker 2: player now? Oh he's on the Steelers. Oh, I thought
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson, so I would have included. So that's my mistake.
Speaker 2: That's a bad job by me. I thought Patrick Peterson retired.
Speaker 2: I thought Patrick Peterson, Well, no, no, he's I mean
Speaker 2: he's an older guy. I think Patrick. I don't think
Speaker 2: Patrick Peters sends a lock. I would put him in
Speaker 2: the likely category. But I also thought he had retired.
Speaker 2: That's my mistake. Sorry Steelers fans. I didn't know he
Speaker 2: was on the Steelers right now. I thought he was
Speaker 2: after the Vikings he retired. The guys who just retired
Speaker 2: to me, JJ Watt obvious lock. Jason Peters pretty damn
Speaker 2: close to a lock. He's gonna get in. Matt Ryan
Speaker 2: is not a Hall of Famer. If you think he's
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, you're just doing counting stuff. I
Speaker 2: know we want a league MVP once. He is not
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. And to me, and this one
Speaker 2: might be controversial, but as far as guys that I
Speaker 2: don't know if they're just retired or just not on
Speaker 2: a roster, Endomikan Sue is not a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: He's very very close and very very good, but not
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. So Antonio Brown is not a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. Antonio Brown would have been, and was
Speaker 2: en root to it and didn't have much more to do,
Speaker 2: but he Antonio Brown honestly was probably one good season,
Speaker 2: one more good season away from being in. But because
Speaker 2: of how it ended, and because of the log jam
Speaker 2: at that position, and because he's just so universally considered
Speaker 2: a bad guy, he's not gonna get any favors there.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's in all right, do youorra? We'll
Speaker 2: move on from the Hall of Fame stuff? Good job
Speaker 2: with excite right everybody? What's next?
Speaker 3: Okay? It's the end of an era for US women's soccer.
Speaker 3: The team had their worst World Cup ever and are
Speaker 3: losing a lot of their stars in the in a
Speaker 3: year of injuries in young players. With the expectations unreasonable.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think the expectations were unreasonable. This team
Speaker 2: just underachieved. They also, I mean after a miserable group stage.
Speaker 2: You know, they they had a penalty kick to advance
Speaker 2: to beat Sweden, and they were the number one team
Speaker 2: in the nation, the number two team or number one
Speaker 2: team of the nation, number one team in the world,
Speaker 2: number two team in the world. Germany had already been
Speaker 2: knocked out, the number three team in the world. They
Speaker 2: were playing in Sweden, and if Rapino hits that penalty kick,
Speaker 2: and she wasn't the only one who missed, but she was.
Speaker 2: You know, they had two one oper I don't know
Speaker 2: it was Rapino or the lady after. I don't. I
Speaker 2: haven't all scattered in my head now. But they had
Speaker 2: a kick to win it. And by the way, they
Speaker 2: missed three penalty kicks, none of them that they would
Speaker 2: have missed if there wasn't a goalie. Two went over
Speaker 2: the goal and one went off the post. And it
Speaker 2: is not executed. It's the coach didn't do it. The manager,
Speaker 2: pardon me, didn't do a great job this World Cup.
Speaker 2: But those missed penalties. It is this bad execution by
Speaker 2: the players. And so no, I don't I think the
Speaker 2: US is still positioned well in women's soccer. I also
Speaker 2: think the rest of the world has caught up greatly.
Speaker 2: None of this is breaking news. I also think the
Speaker 2: biggest story, unfortunately, surrounding the Women's World Cup's exit was
Speaker 2: if you needed more more data that certain folks who
Speaker 2: claim to be the most patriotic actually actively root against
Speaker 2: and dislike massive swaths of America and Americans, then just
Speaker 2: look to the reaction of the Women's World Cup laws.
Speaker 2: Because there are folks out there that claim they are
Speaker 2: the most American and were actively rooting against the our country.
Speaker 2: One of our country's most successful teams because they didn't
Speaker 2: like these ladies' politics. And it would be shameful and
Speaker 2: embarrassing if it wasn't so predictable. And some of these
Speaker 2: absolute fools that are trying to either convince themselves or
Speaker 2: convince their audience that the US women's national team, again
Speaker 2: a women's professional sport, that that team used to have
Speaker 2: different politics, that that team all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, quote went woke when previously what
Speaker 2: you think they were against equal pay, You think they
Speaker 2: were against women's rights, you think they were against gay rights,
Speaker 2: You think that they were rolling every nation in the
Speaker 2: world winning World Cups. This was a super conservative group
Speaker 2: of professional female athletes. Give me a break if you
Speaker 2: believe that, you're an idiot and you don't actually believe that,
Speaker 2: you're just trying to sell snake oil to a deluded,
Speaker 2: mind poisoned audience. And these so many of these folks
Speaker 2: do not actually root for America. They root for Americans
Speaker 2: who either agree with their politics or Americans who disagree
Speaker 2: with their politics but won't say it. And because of that,
Speaker 2: there was a bit of a celebration when these women
Speaker 2: laws and again I don't want to spend any more
Speaker 2: time on it because it's just so predictable, and there
Speaker 2: are just again, big, big portions of this country that
Speaker 2: are there. They're running out of sports that they can enjoy.
Speaker 2: I suppose because athletes have always and will always skew
Speaker 2: left of the Median American political stance. Because athletes skew
Speaker 2: for certainly, female athletes are left of the Median American,
Speaker 2: minorities are left of the Median American and football and
Speaker 2: basketball have a disproportionate amount of minorities. You also, by
Speaker 2: the way, in women's soccer, like the if you just
Speaker 2: get forget if they're soccer players or not, if you
Speaker 2: get a group of college educated women and then compare
Speaker 2: their politics to again, the Median American, they're gonna be
Speaker 2: left of that group. And some folks are so damn
Speaker 2: sensitive and dare I say, snowflakes, They can't handle it.
Speaker 2: They can't handle differing opinions, they can't handle people advocating
Speaker 2: for full and equal rights of groups they don't think
Speaker 2: deserve full and equal rights or full in equal pay,
Speaker 2: and they'll freak out. And some people just turn this
Speaker 2: podcast or YouTube show off and are trying to google
Speaker 2: my email address to send me an angry email, and
Speaker 2: I just couldn't. It would be impossible for me to
Speaker 2: care less about that. And so it's just remarkable to
Speaker 2: me how some folks simultaneously believe they have a monopoly
Speaker 2: on patriotism while also believing that there are entire cities
Speaker 2: in this country, if not a couple states, that are
Speaker 2: not quote real America, and that there are millions of
Speaker 2: Americans that are not quote real Americans, and that even
Speaker 2: when they are literally wearing the flag across their chest
Speaker 2: representing the United States on the international stage, they root
Speaker 2: against them because they dislike who they vote for and
Speaker 2: the policies they advocate for. It's just so pathetic. All right,
Speaker 2: let's play a game.
Speaker 3: Go ahead door, So we're gonna play a game of
Speaker 3: right or wrong. Jimmy G has thrown seven interceptions in
Speaker 3: two practices, but Josh McDaniel says he has no concerns
Speaker 3: right or wrong. Nick has some concerns about Jimmy G.
Speaker 2: Well, I always have some concerns about Jimmy G. But
Speaker 2: when you look at the Raiders depth chart at quarterback,
Speaker 2: it's not exactly one that's gonna give Jimmy G a
Speaker 2: lot of competition. It's Aidan O'Connell and Brian Hoyer, so
Speaker 2: he's gonna be their quarterback. Pardon me the here is
Speaker 2: my only concern for Jimmy G. If he's bad enough
Speaker 2: that the Raiders end up getting Caleb Williams, that it
Speaker 2: will be unfathomable for me if I have to deal
Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams in the AFC West. It's why I
Speaker 2: need the Cardinals to go oh to seventeen and just
Speaker 2: lock that thing in. But yeah, the Raiders are not
Speaker 2: gonna be very good and Jimmy G's not gonna be
Speaker 2: very good, so yeah, right, I have some concerns about him,
Speaker 2: all right, next.
Speaker 3: Okay, sorry. The Chiefs posted a video on Twitter which
Speaker 3: may have shown the world their game plan this year.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is throwing passes behind his back. Now, right
Speaker 3: or wrong, Mahomes will throw behind the back pass this year.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's I mean he's going to do it.
Speaker 2: He came on first things first and said he was
Speaker 2: gonna do it. This was in eleven on eleven and
Speaker 2: as all he has to do is do it one time,
Speaker 2: and it greatly helps the Chiefs because when you are
Speaker 2: game planning for the best offense in the league. Now,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, and we can run the video again,
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do it. Right now, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you now have to game plan that even
Speaker 2: if all the receivers are set out to the right
Speaker 2: and Mahomes is looking to the right, he could do
Speaker 2: that and you all of a sudden have a de
Speaker 2: facto screen pass going to the left. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna do it. He told me on the
Speaker 2: show that he does it all the time in practice,
Speaker 2: but he's been afraid to do it. We asked him
Speaker 2: to do it in the super Bowl. He said he
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna do it in the super Bowl. He didn't
Speaker 2: do it in the Super Bowl. But I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna do it in the regular season.
Speaker 3: All right, next, Okay, Russell Wilson will play the first
Speaker 3: game of the preseason. Right or wrong? Russ is at
Speaker 3: an all time low.
Speaker 2: Well, he might be at an all time low, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say wrong in the context of the question.
Speaker 2: I think this smart, folks. You know what team plays
Speaker 2: their starters throughout the preseason and has padded practices and
Speaker 2: goes hard at training camp, Andy Reid and the Kansasity Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Maybe you guys should model yourselves after that rather than
Speaker 2: everyone trying to do what Sean McVay did that one year,
Speaker 2: which is plays starters, zero snaps the entire preseason. That is,
Speaker 2: you got to get these guys ready to play. So
Speaker 2: I think ross playing in the preseason is not an insult.
Speaker 2: I think it's smart, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, Messi now has seven goals in four games since
Speaker 3: coming to the MLS. Right or wrong, Messi's MESSI anytime
Speaker 3: goal will be in many Nick parlays wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm not betting MLS Soccer. Maybe my guess is the
Speaker 2: fact that the producers, the squarest group of betters I've
Speaker 2: ever met, are already encouraging. This makes me think that,
Speaker 2: even without looking at it, that the juice is probably way,
Speaker 2: way too high. I'm not betting MLS Soccer. I'm keeping
Speaker 2: the powder dry for football season and our glorious gambling
Speaker 2: shows that are coming. Next.
Speaker 3: Okay, the Angels decided not to trade show show. Hey,
Speaker 3: oh Tani, at the deadline, they lost. They've lost every
Speaker 3: game since. Right or wrong, the Angels are a crime
Speaker 3: against him.
Speaker 2: An Well, yeah, I mean, this is really bad, and I,
Speaker 2: you know, I was pounding the drum, don't trade show, Hey,
Speaker 2: you should be buyers, not sellers. Go try to make
Speaker 2: a run. They did exactly that, and now they're just
Speaker 2: totally screwed. So I, you know, I still think it
Speaker 2: was the right thing if you have a guy who
Speaker 2: some people are saying could be the greatest player in
Speaker 2: the history of the sport, to not just give up
Speaker 2: on him and give up on the season. But it's
Speaker 2: obviously been a bad look for them to just go
Speaker 2: winless since the deadline.
Speaker 3: All right, next, Okay, the landscape of college football has
Speaker 3: changed forever. A century of tradition has wiped out in
Speaker 3: a day with the PAC sixteen. Change is continuing, right
Speaker 3: or wrong, you care.
Speaker 2: You're wrong, I don't care. I just don't care. I
Speaker 2: know that I The most miserable time of my professional
Speaker 2: career was when I was doing radio in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I love it. By the way, that was not the
Speaker 2: most miserable time my professional career, but this very specific
Speaker 2: instance of it when the initial conference realignment stuff started
Speaker 2: and we had to talk about Dan Beebe and the
Speaker 2: lou Perkins, and it was ku gonna get left down
Speaker 2: and where Mu's going. I didn't care then when I
Speaker 2: covered college sports. I don't care now. I just flat
Speaker 2: I cannot it is. I am wanting to change the
Speaker 2: channel on my own podcast just having this be in
Speaker 2: the show. I do not care.
Speaker 3: Next all right, goodness. Season two of HBO's Winning Time
Speaker 3: debuted this weekend, although with the omission of a notable superstar,
Speaker 3: Demanse was nowhere to be found. Right wrong Demande should
Speaker 3: appear in season three of Winning Time.
Speaker 2: We thought he should appear in season two, but he
Speaker 2: didn't make the cut. He's now in LA I feel
Speaker 2: like he unfortunately missed his opportunity. I also think he
Speaker 2: thought he was going to be cast as Byron Scott
Speaker 2: when we thought he should be cast as Byron Scott,
Speaker 2: and he didn't. It seemed to really disappoint him. I
Speaker 2: think he had put a few eggs in that basket.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him on there. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. Also, I don't want. I want. It
Speaker 2: is important to me that even if Demanse were to
Speaker 2: like get that opportunity, I would not want him to
Speaker 2: do it. He probably would do it, but it's the
Speaker 2: same way I feel about like, if Deanna were to
Speaker 2: get an opportunity, I want the first child to have
Speaker 2: like a real screen opportunity to be you, and so
Speaker 2: I would be really upset if the Well yeah, but
Speaker 2: I mean, like I just I don't want that's your thing.
Speaker 2: And Deanna now also wants it to be her thing,
Speaker 2: but she's so much younger than you, and so I
Speaker 2: would I don't know, but it doesn't matter. He didn't
Speaker 2: get cast. He didn't even get a callback, even though
Speaker 2: I think he would have done a great job with it.
Speaker 3: All right, last one, Okay, it seems like Mark Zuckerbern
Speaker 3: may actually fight Elon Musk. Elon, who's dealing with a
Speaker 3: neck issue, says that if I will be streamed on
Speaker 3: the artist formerly known as Twitter, but zuck says that
Speaker 3: the Tesla Nerd hasn't confirmed anything yet. Right or wrong,
Speaker 3: Musk is duckings up.
Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely right that he's ducking him. Listen,
Speaker 2: Musk is a lot bigger than Zuckerberg. But Zuckerberg literally
Speaker 2: trains for mixed martial arts. He has like an octagon
Speaker 2: in his house. He has professional trainers, and if one
Speaker 2: guy trains and the other guy doesn't. The size part
Speaker 2: doesn't even really matter. I think Zuckerberg would be a
Speaker 2: massive favorite in that fight, and I don't think Musk
Speaker 2: wants anything to do with it. I think, like a
Speaker 2: lot of things, Musk is a lot of talking, a
Speaker 2: lot of action. All Right, I would like to answer
Speaker 2: your guys questions next. Also, producers, if there is a
Speaker 2: commoner question that took major issue with some of my
Speaker 2: US Women's National team commentary, If they're there, I can
Speaker 2: address those for a couple of minutes as well. If
Speaker 2: they're not there, don't worry about that. We'll do all
Speaker 2: that next. What's right?
Speaker 3: Welcome back, Episode one seventy. Now we're gonna answer your
Speaker 3: read your fan question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let start with the number the Darrell Clawton. We'll
Speaker 2: do the US Women's National team ones at the end.
Speaker 3: Okay, Darrell Claughton says, first time watching the show live,
Speaker 3: I just want to say that shirt is fire. Where
Speaker 3: is it from?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, door got it for me? So where is
Speaker 2: it from? From?
Speaker 3: The Scotch and soda in Spain?
Speaker 2: Uh so? Yeah? Do Youora got this for me when
Speaker 2: she was on her trip. It was very nice of her,
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Speaker 3: I'll take some Scotch and soda jeans. I'll put that
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Speaker 2: Oh will you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let them know. Oh, right here, I'll take
Speaker 3: some jeans. Heard it here first? Okay?
Speaker 2: All right? Next?
Speaker 3: Should I go to five or go to the beginning?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, go to Crustacean Yeah.
Speaker 3: Crustaceanation said, I've been seeing some of your poker games
Speaker 3: on TikTok recently, and I was wondering, what's your favorite
Speaker 3: hand to play besides a pocket pair?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I think everybody probably, I think the
Speaker 2: most fun hands the player probably suited connectors. I think
Speaker 2: that's for everybody. And I, uh, the yeah, listen, I'm
Speaker 2: not really on TikTok, but a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of my poker stuft from a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: seems to have like resurfaced on TikTok and some of
Speaker 2: yours classmates Center some of them and the But I
Speaker 2: haven't played on TV in a couple of years, and
Speaker 2: I might be as I mentioned earlier, I might be
Speaker 2: playing here at the end of the month that you
Speaker 2: could stream on the Poker Go YouTube channel. I just
Speaker 2: got to work out the details of it, all right.
Speaker 3: Next okay, Johnston asked where do you think is the
Speaker 3: best landing spot for Caleb Williams and what is the
Speaker 3: most likely landing spot?
Speaker 2: All right? The most likely landing spot, without question is
Speaker 2: Arizona because they're gonna be terrible. They have their own pick,
Speaker 2: and they have Houston's first round pick, so they're the
Speaker 2: most likely landing spot. The best landing spot I think.
Speaker 2: I think the best landing spot would be the Rams.
Speaker 2: So you have Sean McVeigh and you'd be in LA,
Speaker 2: you'd be in the NFC. I think for all those,
Speaker 2: I think the Rams would be the best. But I
Speaker 2: think Arizona is the most likely of the landing spots.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Next okay, Lewis Luis l asked, Nick, what do you think?
Speaker 3: What do you think the chances are that Austin Reeves
Speaker 3: is the Lakers number one player this coming season. He
Speaker 3: seems to be cooking it up for the Team USA
Speaker 3: so far.
Speaker 2: If Austin Reeves is their best player, then it's a
Speaker 2: total unmitigated disaster. And I like Austin a lot, but
Speaker 2: it means either Lebron fell off a cliff or got injured,
Speaker 2: and it means Anthony Davis definitely got injured. There is
Speaker 2: no scenario where Lebron and Anthony Davis are healthy and
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is their best player. There's just none. So
Speaker 2: that's why it would be a disaster.
Speaker 3: Austin He's gonna come get you.
Speaker 2: No. I like listen, I like Austin Reeves, but he
Speaker 2: would tell you that he is no change. If he's
Speaker 2: better than Lebron and Lebron's healthy, it means Lebron that
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, age came up and grabbed him.
Speaker 2: And there's no scenario where he's better than a healthy
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. It just doesn't exist. Now. Could Austin Reeves,
Speaker 2: you know, be a fringe All Star maybe, and that
Speaker 2: would be a great development for the Lakers, but it
Speaker 2: being their best players, no chance, all right.
Speaker 3: Next one, Michael asked, are you higher on the Cowboy?
Speaker 2: Why are you hiring?
Speaker 3: Why are you higher on the Cowboys than the Niners.
Speaker 3: This year.
Speaker 2: I just think the Niners. I think them putting all
Speaker 2: this faith in brock Purty based on the winning record
Speaker 2: last year, even though the play was not exemplary and
Speaker 2: coming off elbow surgery is risky, and I think that
Speaker 2: last year, I loved the roster, I really liked them,
Speaker 2: and I think they missed their opportunity. And I just
Speaker 2: I think the people are way too down on the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Cowboys went twelve and five and the losses were their
Speaker 2: first game of the year against the Eagles with their
Speaker 2: backup quarterback overtime Aaron Rodgers overtime to the Prince and
Speaker 2: week a meaningless Week eighteen game. They rolled the Bucks
Speaker 2: in the first round of the playoffs. They then lost
Speaker 2: to a Niners team that at that point in time
Speaker 2: had won twelve consecutive games by an average of like
Speaker 2: seventeen points. And I think people are two down on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and a little too high on the Niners.
Speaker 2: All right now, all take over here On the soccer stuff,
Speaker 2: Keaton Holbrook says the US women's national team got complacent,
Speaker 2: moved the goalpost with expectations, celebrating getting out of the
Speaker 2: group stage, the team was arrogant, have soul searching due
Speaker 2: after this World Cup listen. I think that's a fair critique.
Speaker 2: I didn't hate the celebrating after getting out of the
Speaker 2: group stage. I know a lot of people did, but
Speaker 2: they didn't seem to have the sense of urgency the
Speaker 2: moment demanded, and obviously their attacking play was brutal. That
Speaker 2: to me is a totally fair criticism. How much is
Speaker 2: on the manager, how much is on that they were
Speaker 2: relying on older players and not really embracing the next generation.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure because I'm not gonna pretend like I
Speaker 2: am following the US women's national team a year round,
Speaker 2: you know, outside of the World Cup cycles. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that to me's a very fair criticism. Suavamente said, Uh,
Speaker 2: the one girl is kind of arrogant, though I don't
Speaker 2: like that in any of my athletes. Again, that's a
Speaker 2: fair critique as long as you apply it across the board.
Speaker 2: I've never understood the concept of people preferring false humility
Speaker 2: to earnest, honest arrogance, but a lot of people do.
Speaker 2: A lot of people would prefer their pro athletes or
Speaker 2: celebrities be fake and pretend to be humble when we
Speaker 2: know they're not really uh and they and so the
Speaker 2: that to me is fair, even if it's not how
Speaker 2: I feel. I'd prefer honest arrogance over false humility every
Speaker 2: day of the week. But it is what it is like.
Speaker 2: That to me is not a criticism specific of the
Speaker 2: women's national team. TJ says Nick trying to make everyone
Speaker 2: believe he speaks the gospel and political issues is so embarrassing. Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't think I speak the gospel on a lot
Speaker 2: of things that are actual politics. You want to have
Speaker 2: a discussion. It wouldn't be good for the pod, but
Speaker 2: you want to have a discussion about tax rates, about
Speaker 2: the most efficient way to actually deal with poverty in America,
Speaker 2: maybe at being outside of government programs. You want to
Speaker 2: talk about whether you know America does or does not
Speaker 2: spend too much on defense spending. You want to talk
Speaker 2: about whether or not there should be upper bound age
Speaker 2: limits like there are lower bound age limits on politicians.
Speaker 2: I will not only will I have those discussions with
Speaker 2: you if we were to be able to have them,
Speaker 2: I will have them with you with an open mind
Speaker 2: because there are a lot of things I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know more about than me, or I had not
Speaker 2: considered I am not, you know, locked in on a
Speaker 2: position where I speak like I speak the Gospel are
Speaker 2: not on political issues where I speak like I'm speaking
Speaker 2: the Gospel are on equal rights issues, human rights issues,
Speaker 2: and those issues go ahead, have been hijacked and turned
Speaker 2: into political issues. I do not find talking about race
Speaker 2: to be political, and I would think, and I've made
Speaker 2: this point before and I will make it again, it
Speaker 2: is incredibly insulting to conservative Americans to assert that speaking
Speaker 2: on race in a is it speaking on a racial
Speaker 2: justice or social justice slant. It is incredibly insulting to say, oh,
Speaker 2: that's liberal, because the implication there, obviously then is the
Speaker 2: opposite side of the issue is the conservative position. And
Speaker 2: who would want to be anti equal rights or anti justice?
Speaker 2: But such is the world in which we live, where
Speaker 2: everything is political, and there are certain things that I
Speaker 2: simply know in the minerals go back.
Speaker 3: There's also some things that just simply aren't really up
Speaker 3: for debate, shouldn't be up for debate.
Speaker 2: There is a right and a wrong there is that's.
Speaker 3: When people make it political, when they try to find
Speaker 3: a way to make it to.
Speaker 2: Try to muddy the waters on things, and I am
Speaker 2: I am actually more strident than I am, actually muting
Speaker 2: my certainty a bit when I discuss certain things on
Speaker 2: the show. And I deeply believe that the most vocal
Speaker 2: critics of our US women's soccer team, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of them, are bad faith acts, are simply trying to
Speaker 2: find another another issue to try to further divide us
Speaker 2: for their own personal financial game. I believe that, and
Speaker 2: it is It's just all culture war all the time,
Speaker 2: and it makes us take our eye off the ball
Speaker 2: on solving bigger ticket issues and bigger problems and really
Speaker 2: having the ability to move forward. And I got no
Speaker 2: I have no quarter for it. And so when it
Speaker 2: bleeds into my world, which is the sports world, it's
Speaker 2: just I can't stand it. And so do I sound
Speaker 2: self righteous and self assured and like I'm speaking the gospel? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's just because I have the utter certainty that
Speaker 2: on these things, I'm gonna fall on the right side
Speaker 2: of history. And that is exactly as arrogant as it sounds.
Speaker 2: But luckily I'm right. Talk to you on Thursday