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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is a Pop Warner sensation.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ranzas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with sub heroes. Chris westling to my right. Oh,

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Speaker 1: to my left, Greg Roight Right. Wow, what a way

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Speaker 1: to start off the show. What up buys? Hey? Dan? Sloppy?

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Speaker 1: So sloppy. I'm debating should we start the show over?

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Speaker 1: I think it was just fine. Yeah, I thought you

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Speaker 1: were talking about West's appearance in terms of sloppy. Oh

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get into that a little bit. Hell

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Speaker 1: does that mean a great way to start? Scientists see

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Speaker 1: a lot of scientists heat on Sunday show. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: now it just picks up right where leaves off. I

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Speaker 1: think West looks this is the West uniform, and I

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Speaker 1: like it. The red um you know, the khaki hats,

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Speaker 1: a little forrest gumpass. It's got a little good, be

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Speaker 1: I've long fought, and I've spoke with West about this privately.

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Speaker 1: Um West going to a shadowy League figure and saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: you tell me to take my hat off. You tell

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Speaker 1: me to address a certain way. You tell me to

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Speaker 1: lather on all this makeup. Let West be West, because

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Speaker 1: this is what West looks like in real life, So

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Speaker 1: why do we want to turn them into the next

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Speaker 1: Bobby Costas. It's a realistic conversation. Except for the part

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Speaker 1: where I speak in third person. I don't think i'd

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Speaker 1: ever say, let West be West, your representative, We'll speak

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Speaker 1: for you. I need one of those. Now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: as always for listening. I'm still I still have um

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Speaker 1: a lot of goodwill, goodwill and good feelings towards everyone

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Speaker 1: that came out to the Sweet Up in London to

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Speaker 1: meet up with Connor and Mark and Mark is you

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Speaker 1: know Greg gave Mark an extra day game a blow today.

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Speaker 1: Well he just got back from London in long flight

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Speaker 1: last night pretty late. So yes he he and Connor

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Speaker 1: big weekend. Yeah, let's yeah, I wouldn't say it that way.

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Speaker 1: you to everyone to join those two gentlemen uh in

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Speaker 1: London and um, you know, delivers the fields drops a

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Speaker 1: big old field hammer on all of us. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: it's a good one. We're gonna get into the Monday

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Speaker 1: night game between the Ravens and Cardinals. A good game

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Um, we'll checking on some news

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Speaker 1: and a lot of interesting news going on around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Great name for the website, Greg and and the television show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just is a very sensible name. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is good to know that this is an entire enterprise,

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Speaker 1: both the Around the NFL podcast and the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL UH editorial arm that we do much of the

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Speaker 1: writing for. And then of course the old Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL television show on NFL Network Monday through Friday with

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Speaker 1: host Andrew Ceciliano, who will be back in here on Thursday. UM,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get to some news then we will listen.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get the four Committee back together. Really, West,

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Speaker 1: that was we had a nice talk about life in

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Speaker 1: the four Committee um boardroom over some croissans, some bagels,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're that bad of a team. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you were um, let's say you were like anti

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Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi, and you had to make up a name

429
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Speaker 1: to like point out you're making an anti nepotism type thing,

430
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: like you know, if his name was, I don't know,

431
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Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter, do you think he'd get this job?

432
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: And yet Jim Bob Cooter is not only a real name,

433
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Speaker 1: he's replacing Lombardi. Is it the best name in NFL history?

434
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Speaker 1: It's not even close, right, Jim Bob Cooter is a

435
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: great name, all right. So Lamba old Lambo gone. And

436
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: when I'm chomping on cigars with the other inside NFL

437
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: decision makers, that's how we'll refer to it. Oh man,

438
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: they go, they got old Lambo. Yeah, nobody's buying it, alright.

439
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: One point three million dollars next year. Bad? Uh? Greg

440
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: Hardy saga, let's talk a little more Greg Hardy. Of course,

441
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: he had the uh what amounted to a meltdown on

442
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: the sideline late in the Sunday game against the Giants,

443
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: where he went off, went after um, the special teams coach,

444
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: knocking his clipboard out of his hand, a bunch of

445
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys players trying to calm him down. Greg Hardy has

446
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: only been there with the team playing for two weeks,

447
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: so it was all very strange. And then we had this.

448
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: NFL media insider Ian Rappaport better known as rap Sheet,

449
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: reported on Monday that Hardy did not participate in practice

450
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: on Thursday, didn't even reach out to the team, He

451
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: just was not at the facility, and the Cowboys spent

452
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: most of Thursday morning actively searching for their defensive end

453
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Speaker 1: just to make sure he was okay. They eventually located

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Speaker 1: for him and then covered for him. Uh, in my opinion,

455
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: by just not making into a story, just saying, oh,

456
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: he didn't practice because he was ill. Three days later

457
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: he has the whop on the sideline. These add these

458
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: two things together Greg and what's going on with Greg Hardy.

459
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: There was another incident that I don't know what it

460
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: was about, but Ian said the team had to speak

461
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: to him about his behavior. It's insane and it's insane

462
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: to see all the players line up and defend them.

463
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: This is the kind of leadership we need. It's it

464
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Speaker 1: would be one thing if Jason Garrett and in the

465
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Speaker 1: Cowboys ownership, you know, say okay, we're gonna talk to

466
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Speaker 1: him in a in a closed door meeting. He can't

467
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: keep disrespecting our coaches on the sideline, this, that, and

468
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: the other. But they just doubled down to shove it

469
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Speaker 1: in all of our faces. This is the kind of

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Speaker 1: guy we want. This is a leader, and we want

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Speaker 1: to sign him to a contract extension. That was the

472
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Speaker 1: response to this, is that we want to sign him

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Speaker 1: to a contract extension. Did you see the video of

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Speaker 1: h Jenny Enters his face when Jerry Jones called him

475
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Speaker 1: a leader. A reporter for the mm QB dot com,

476
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: she was standing about a foot behind Jerry Jones with

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Speaker 1: her notebook and tape recorder, and when he said Greg

478
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Hardy was a leader, she got this very sour like

479
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: she looked like she was gonna vomit. She looked like

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Speaker 1: the rest of America when they see Greg Hardy do

481
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Speaker 1: what he's doing on the sideline. And I've heard the argument,

482
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Speaker 1: well you know if Tom Brady did this or this, Well,

483
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Speaker 1: first of all, your prior record matters to everything has happened,

484
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: and the reason why Greg Haward he has been in

485
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: court and the reason he's been suspended for domestic violence,

486
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: he absolutely should be judges defferently. Secondly, it's not every Sunday,

487
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: you see coaches shoving a player out of a huddle

488
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: and slapping in the in the players slaps the plate

489
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Speaker 1: the clipboard away from him that it's not like that happened.

490
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not doing that. No one's doing that.

491
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Speaker 1: I did that to you once a couple of weeks ago.

492
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Speaker 1: But then you talk to me and I was like,

493
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Speaker 1: you're right, I will never touch your clipboard again. It's

494
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing how much they've compromised their integrity,

495
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: the arrogance of this organization, by the way, and I

496
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: think I firm believe in life, when you do stiff

497
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: stuff like this, it comes back to haunt you. You

498
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: can call it karm or whatever you want. But when

499
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: you this isn't acting like your best self. This isn't

500
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: acting like we're a first place team. This is acting

501
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: like we're gonna do whatever we want and we're not

502
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna face any consequences ever. So you're saying the injuries

503
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo and Does Bryant we're caused by this. No,

504
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all, But I'm saying, what's

505
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Speaker 1: about to happen to them the rest of the year

506
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: when they don't live up to expectations when they do

507
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: get Romo and Brian back, and they keep losing close

508
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: games because they have no integrity and they have no

509
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: cohesiveness and they've got one player running a muck with

510
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: no rules whatsoever. Their pff carmea rating is way it

511
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: is for the week. But I this is a hard

512
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: team to root for. I mean, you gotta you gotta

513
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: admit it. After all, what if you were with Greg Hardy,

514
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: even if before Greg Hardy it was like okay, So

515
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I didn't like how they handled the DeMarco Murray thing

516
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: in the off season. I thought it was very, you know,

517
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: way overconfident. How they thought that they could plug in

518
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: anyone because they had built this modern dynasty behind their

519
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. They believe that it is still that's how

520
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: they operate. And it's like no, no, no, no, it's

521
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: not even close. I think I've made the point about

522
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: the sliding scale for NFL justice too much, where depending

523
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: on how talented you are, you can get away with more.

524
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's never been a better example of it.

525
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: And then Greg Hardy right now, and that's why people

526
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: are annoyed about it is the duplicity that you're saying

527
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: one thing that we care about character anything. If if

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00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: they were just honest that said he's too good, We

529
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: we don't care that he's a total knucklehead. And then

530
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: some teams are more honest about it, maybe that would

531
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: be Well, it's even more stark when we went through

532
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: what we went through last year. Right, there's an old

533
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: Mike francessa ism that I think applies to this, which

534
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: is the bill always comes due. I totally agree with that.

535
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: And that's what's gonna happen to the Cowboys with Greg Hardy.

536
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it sinks this season or um,

537
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it happens next year. But Greg Hardy

538
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: is gonna end up being a big mistake and they're

539
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it. Bad juju, bad ju ju. Alright. Finally,

540
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul, who badly damaged his hands, of course,

541
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: and that his hand in that July four fireworks accident,

542
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: looks like he's closer to rejoining the Giants. Rap Sheet

543
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: reported that the Giants are quote comfortable with JPP where

544
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: he's at physically after examining his hand for a second time.

545
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: UH this week, the two sides are now negotiating a deal.

546
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: That's the final step for JPP. So you know we're

547
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: hearing that a deal is gonna get done, maybe as

548
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: soon as today Tuesday. And you know, once the deal

549
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: is done, maybe we won't see him. He might be

550
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: on the field sooner than maybe anybody expects. He could

551
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: be back in a couple of weeks. Yeah, the roster

552
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: exemption is only two weeks. He's gonna have to get

553
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: back into football shape. And you know, the first thing

554
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: I thought is what team needs a pass rusher? What

555
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: contender at least for a playoff spot needs a pass

556
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: rusher more than the Giants. It's exactly I mean, he

557
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: is exactly what they need. Theyre but he's like the

558
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Lockness Monster or two Pacabra. At this point, I believe, well,

559
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: he's Pierre Paul exists when I see him on he's

560
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: in the building. By the time people hear this, he

561
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: might have signed a contract that's gonna have a lot

562
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: of incentives in it. Who knows if he's going to

563
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: be with that team long term. Who knows if he

564
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: can play as well as he did before. That's a

565
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: totally open question. But they have absolutely no pass rushing.

566
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: The need there's still four and three. Uh yeah, I

567
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: mean they need a bed because they can't get to

568
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But there in first place, it could be

569
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: a big lift for them. If he's even half the

570
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: guy we'll see. And that's what's happening. All right, this

571
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: is time to talk. It's time to talk about the

572
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: UH stick a fork in him series for around the NFL,

573
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: we stick a fork in the team that means it's over.

574
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: They have no chance of making the playoffs in our mind.

575
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: And before we get to the nominees for today's show,

576
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: let's now look back on who has already been forked.

577
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: There are twelve teams here. They are the Cleveland Browns,

578
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, the Detroit Lions and all In SATs, Tampa

579
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, San Francisco forty Niners, Houston Texans, the Oakland Raiders,

580
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, the Baltimore Ravens, the Kansas City Chiefs,

581
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. HM M hmmm. So that's it. Twelve

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00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: team shamed uh and forked. Same Dan James n for it.

583
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: That is quite a tough thing to deal with. Dolphins

584
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: and Saints, the early leaders of the teams that could

585
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: could give us a little That's what I was gonna say,

586
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: is who among those names and teams I just listed

587
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: are we little nervous about? Um. I'm not as pumped

588
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: up about the Dolphins as West is, but I will

589
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: acknowledge they're playing really well. With a big game against

590
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: the Pats, I'll be very nervous if they's the only

591
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: team I'm never I'm not working nervous about the Saints

592
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: at all. They've got to I'm not really gonna plow

593
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: through a bunch of times. I'm not nervous about any

594
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: If I if I had the Samet saying you to

595
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: respect the Dolphins like he did Richard Matthews only, I

596
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: think they could win eight or nine games, maybe, but

597
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to the playoffs. If I

598
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: really was forced to choose one, I still think the

599
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars only one game back in the ANFC southe that

600
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: you never know how that division is getting. I know

601
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: they've been bad, but I don't know. I'm going to

602
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: give the Raiders a little respect and a little bit

603
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: nervous about the Raiders. Yeahs who are And I'm very

604
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: nervous about the Jets and writers this weekend. I think

605
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: that's a tough game for the Jets. So now the nominees.

606
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: All right, So we got together. We had the croissans,

607
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: we had the bagels, had the cool fee, we had

608
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the locks, we had the matsa bal soup for breakfast.

609
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Is that what you said? He can have it anytime

610
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: a day? All right, And this is what we came

611
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: up with, and we'll go down the list. Will start

612
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: with the team I guess there would be the the

613
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: leading nominee here, the San Diego Super Chargers. Um your thoughts, guys.

614
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: The argument against them is is easy. They have the

615
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: best quarterback of any team with that batter of a

616
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: record in the league. And their next four opponents our

617
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: teams that we've forked and don't have any that don't

618
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: have more than two wins any of them. So that's

619
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: the argument to keep them. All right, here's the argument

620
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: against him. They have one of the worst defenses in

621
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. In fact, I believe they were. They are

622
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the only team in NFL history to allow twenty four

623
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: point four twenty four points in every one of their

624
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: games to open this season for seven straight weeks. It's

625
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: hard to really look at the final score last week

626
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: too and be like, oh, well they got bet It

627
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: was a good battle. They were not competitive for a

628
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: lot of that game, and that made me think once

629
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: again because I thought that we should have forked him

630
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: last week. It was the thought is this is the

631
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: middle team in the NFL. They are eight and eight,

632
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: doomed to eight and eight the best, So why would

633
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: we have them in contention to make the playoffs when

634
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: eight games ain't gonna cut it in the A f C. Yeah,

635
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: that's that's the argument. That's a strong argument. Again, I'm

636
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna go to the schedule. If you look at the

637
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: games that they lost at Cincinnati by five, they lost

638
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: to the Steelers by four, they lost to the Packers

639
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: in Green Bay in a in a one score game.

640
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: These are good losses if there ever are such a thing.

641
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: They've had a tough schedule. It's gonna turn around, but

642
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: two and five and I think betting going against them

643
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: is really supporting the rest of those A f C

644
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: teams like the Jets and the Steelers and even the

645
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Dolphins if you wanted to go that far.

646
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: And that's why, ultimately I would fork therefore there defense

647
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: is terrible. I don't think they can. I thought that

648
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Raiders game was the key game in that division between

649
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: those two teams. Which which way are those team teams

650
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna go? And they told us thirty seven to six

651
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: after three quarters. I agree. I think it's time to

652
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: say goodbye to the Chargers. They have at Ravens, which

653
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: is not a gimme home to Bears, home to Chiefs

654
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: at that's as easy as it gets. And yet I

655
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: still think they'll go too and two there there you go.

656
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of them. Sorry, let's get rid of them. Hey,

657
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: you know this, Now that the Chargers are for it,

658
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, this might be a good time. Hey,

659
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: do we have anything, uh Sydney, any type of piano?

660
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find some something slow. I certainly have

661
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: something deserving of the moment. It's been a tough ride

662
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: for the team of a t L last year, chosen

663
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: in controversial circumstances, didn't really do well down the stretch,

664
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: ultimately a lot of injuries. Mike McCoy still has the

665
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: personality of you know, Balsa would or Joe Fieldman's white sneaker.

666
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: I have this that might do in a pinch, No,

667
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: that won't be it. But Sarah McLaughlins, I will remember

668
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: us a nice song. I will go acapella. I don't

669
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: like to have to do this, but in a pinch,

670
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'll do. Sandyco super chatous, Sandy Hecko, super

671
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: chat that's beautiful. Thank you. It's emotional to be in

672
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the room when when an artist like this comes out.

673
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: It's too pleasure. It's an honor. Alright. So there four

674
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers are done. Uh and you know, perhaps to

675
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: you in l A in two thousand sixteen keeps getting

676
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: worse for Sandy Engle fans. Sorry guys, Um, so that

677
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: is thirteen teams. Next team up, the Tennessee Tytoons. You

678
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: just totally destroyed their their fan existence in one. I'm

679
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: not happy they have a fan existence. They're they're out there. Um,

680
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: but it's true. I mean, that's a bad situation down there,

681
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: and they don't have a good team this year, the Titans.

682
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: I just said Tytoons. I slipped into that. But let's

683
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: let's face it there one in five there are a

684
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: disappointment this year. There's a lot of buzz early in

685
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: the year with Marcus Mariota. Uh and perhaps there's a

686
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: very good chance he's still gonna be a very good quarterback.

687
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: But we're not there yet. For the Titans, they're not

688
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: there yet. They're one in five just that record alone,

689
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: even in the a f C South. So wild cards

690
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: gone and perhaps Gregg the case is made this we

691
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: could cover ourselves because we're fork and everybody else in

692
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: the f C l AFC South, but the Colts um

693
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of cover in case of

694
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: the Colts completely go down the tubes. But at the

695
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: same time, that's not how you play it. That's not

696
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: how you play the game. You you evaluate the team

697
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: the game. Maybe the Jaguars shouldn't have been forked or whatever.

698
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't know whe got that either. It doesn't matter.

699
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: The Titans have been gifted a cake schedule, a four

700
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: game homestand they lose all four. They've played one team

701
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: this season that currently has a winning record, and they've

702
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: still only won one game. I love Mariota, I just

703
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: don't think this team can get to even seven wins,

704
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: which I do think of. Ultimately, you're gonna need to

705
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: get to six or seven wins. Seven wins in the

706
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: A f c seven, So I don't care about the Cults.

707
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: I had for them. They're one play, one play from

708
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: being in first place now, but you don't get that playback, right,

709
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: that's over with. Okay, that's fine. I'll fork the Cults

710
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: right now. There. We said last week they're a bad,

711
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: bad football team. They're even worse than that. They're an

712
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: awful team. They could go three and thirteen, so they

713
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: have three wins. Now they are who are they gonna

714
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: be favored against? The Now? I would have you know

715
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: how this game works. So if we forked the Cults,

716
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: that means that we cannot fork the Titans. So we're

717
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: saying the Titans at one and five are gonna win

718
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: the a f C South comfortable saving the Titans because

719
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: the Cults. How can you guys fork the Titans when

720
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: you see the Colts play and they're one of the

721
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: worst teams in the NFL, I would be in favor

722
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: in this. We would have to really discuss it. If

723
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: at forking the entire NFC South, but that's something like

724
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: that has never been done in forking history, and the

725
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: devision they all take them out of the NFL. It inserius.

726
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: We are sure as we make a charity charitable day.

727
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm willing to pay money to get rid of this division.

728
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: I think we can't make that decision without Mark, though.

729
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Maybe we could sit on that for a week and

730
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: think about it. That NFC East could be in play

731
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: for that. That's that's possible for now. I would fork

732
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: the Titans. It sounds like West would not. I would.

733
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: I would feel just to make a point, I would

734
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: fork the Cults before the Titans. You know, you get well,

735
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: you guys love to save bad teams and get rid

736
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: of other bad teams. You do, don't get it? What

737
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: you don't my favorites with your bad teams? No, No,

738
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: it's like we know they're bad, but we're just saying

739
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: there are degrees of bad. And I don't think the

740
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Colts are like way more likely to make the playoffs

741
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: in the Titans are an awful football. I'm gonna break

742
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: it down. We have different opinions of who are the

743
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: bad teams. There's not there's not much to get you

744
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: think something. You think the Redskins are coached by you know,

745
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi's great you know grandson grandfather did coach the

746
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: Red He did not a great run with Washington. Uh,

747
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: and you know I disagree on that. The only way

748
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: to shake West out of these You know, West, you're

749
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: being confrontational on this a little bit. You just gotta

750
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: logic on this. What if because you want to keep

751
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: the lose four games in a row Cowboys, but getting

752
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: rid of the Redskins. What if the Titans? Well, see,

753
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: you can't play both sides of the fence because you're

754
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: always going back to wait till so and so gets healthy.

755
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have Tony Romo does Brian right, but they

756
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: just sold their soul for great car that we'll get

757
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: to that. We'll get to that at they are The

758
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Titans are at Texans in week eight? Can we fork

759
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: the tight is that they follow one and six? That

760
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: they're getting beat by the Texans. And I need to

761
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: see what the Colts do because they're the worst team

762
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: out of the two teams right now. All right, let's

763
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: let's go tex have defense or the Titans have a

764
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: pretty frisky defense right now. Well, here's here's what's in

765
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: West's favor is the Colts play the Panthers, Broncos, and

766
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: Falcons in the next three weeks. One of those I

767
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: could see them winning with the Saints. All right, well

768
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: we'll discuss for division Alright, so the Titans are saved

769
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: by st westling Uh, the Buffalo Bills. This will be

770
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: an all right, here we go. The Bills are three

771
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: and four. But you know what, it's not just about

772
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: the record with the Bills. It's about first the the

773
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: injury situation, which isn't necessarily getting better anytime soon. I

774
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: will get better. They have a bye week. In a

775
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: tailor back Tyro Taylor, why did you just turn off

776
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: your own microphone? It was a bad, bad move by me.

777
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: You like you, Actually, it's not like you accidentally hit it.

778
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: You were talking and then you hit the cough button.

779
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: It made no sense of microphone. There's something like emotionally

780
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: behind what you just did. I want to be especially

781
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about the Bills. EJ. Manuel was as bad.

782
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: Oh now, Dan just doing it to me. We found

783
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: a new game. This is not gonna This is the game,

784
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: that game that ends the podcast. Just when we start

785
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: disagreeing with each other like monkeys, we started hitting the

786
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: cough button on our own mike boxes. We've hit the

787
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: low point anyway, go ahead, Greg nicely played EJ. Manuel

788
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: was such a step down. Tyrod Taylor is a legitimate

789
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: asset as a starting quarterback. You get Taylor back in there,

790
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: you get Sammy Watkins, you get Kyle Williams. Those are

791
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: real assets for a team that has a lot of

792
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: talent that I picked to go to the playoffs before

793
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: the season. We're talking about a team the believes each J.

794
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Manual is as good as Tyrod Taylor. Well, how could

795
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: we trust him to win? Someone in that organization apparently did.

796
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Someone with a lot of influence believes that e J.

797
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Manual can give Tyrod. Now, that's not gonna be a problem.

798
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: They're nineteenth in the NFL and defense. They're supposed to

799
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: be a defensive team. They were twenty five and run

800
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: defense D d v o A Football Outsiders Metrics before

801
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: t J yelled and dropped a hundred on them. They're

802
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: a bad defense. Alright, be fair about this, Greig Ready,

803
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: because I believe they should be forked as well. They

804
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: have a bye week in Week eight home to Miami,

805
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Week nine, winter loss. That's the game, the loser that

806
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: is done for thee I would take the Bills at

807
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: this point, but it's a toss upright bet this is

808
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: why yeah, this is why they That is a must

809
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: win obviously, because if they even if they're four and four,

810
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: their next three games are all on the road at

811
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: New York Jets, at New England, at Kansas City. To me,

812
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: that is they'd be lucky to come out of that

813
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: four game stretch with two wins. And they're already three

814
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: and four. They could get three wins. You're right to

815
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, They're gonna have to win three

816
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: and then the schedule eases up on the backstretch and

817
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: the a f c A schedule in general out of

818
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: division is favorable. No games where I think they'd be

819
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: a heavy underdog. Okay, so you're saving the Bills for now?

820
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: I no, No, this was supposed to be I know,

821
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: our Mark Wind we were supposed to be getting. We

822
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: were supposed to be getting bold. We know we're gonna

823
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: get a lot of tweets from the Bill's fan base

824
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: if we forked them in week seven, especially if they

825
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: make a run on us. That actually seems kind of fun.

826
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's them whoa yeah, Rosent alright, you're gone,

827
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: yea funked Buffalo Bills out of the A C. Playoff

828
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: race in week seven. All right, uh NFC East, we're

829
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that, but I kind of feel like

830
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna just gonna run in circles on that one.

831
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: The Redskins did come back to beat the wolfle Bucks

832
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: say aiving them from the fork West high on Washington.

833
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna high on Washington at all, if

834
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: we're okay, you're you're not high on the teams that

835
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: share the division with Washington, I'll fork the Cowboys right

836
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: now because have you guys ever read Faust? Are you

837
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: familiar with the Robert Johnson and the Crossroads selling it?

838
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: Do you know what happens when you sell your soul

839
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: to the devil? Bad things, bad things? Cowboys are going there.

840
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: They're not gonna win this division if they're selling their

841
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: soul to the devil. You know, that's not how the

842
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: world works. Guess it is how the world works. Telling

843
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: you it's how the world works. The world. They're not

844
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna win this division if they're selling their soul to

845
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: the devil. Things things will come undone. I would love

846
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: if the center cannot hold. We're sunshine and rainbows, but

847
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: good things happen to bad people. All the time. Look

848
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: at this, and then what happens after they happen, After

849
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: the good things happen, they ultimately crumble. The center cannot

850
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: hold all right, I mean, I'm obviously not gonna fork.

851
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: Try to have fork half the league by the end

852
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: of next week. After next week's games, now that means

853
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: only I think a few more team teams. Just remember,

854
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: a vote for the Cowboys is a vote for Greg Hardy.

855
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: Keeping all of NFC East alive does not make sense

856
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: to me. Logically. We might have to have some back

857
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: room trading. I should have held my Bill's chip. I

858
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: really blew it. We're gonna have to do some horse

859
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: trading though. I'll give you X team if we can

860
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: just kill off the old Rams right now too, So

861
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: you might need that chip, I blew it. Don't don't

862
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: beat yourself up, Greg. So you guys are saving the

863
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: Cowboys of course. Yeah, a vote for Greg Hardy. Good job, Dan,

864
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: that's well your vote. You're voting for some other people

865
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: in that organization that you try to reframe the debate,

866
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: you politician. I can't say anymore, but you're you're guesting

867
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: some votes in questionable places as well. Hm, we're all voting.

868
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: I've out against the Cowboys, but if you guys want

869
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: to say them, I understand. All right, moving forward, that's

870
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: it for the four conversations. So we're up to fourteen.

871
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: We'd like to get to sixteen by the aftermath of

872
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Week eight, which is a week from today. So can

873
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: we get two more teams? I thought it was gonna

874
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: be after week nine, once every team is played half

875
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: the season. But well, we'll talk about it, talk about it.

876
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's it. Two more teams. That's not much.

877
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: We can handle this. We can do this. Um, alright,

878
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: moving on, let's um Let's talk about one move real quick.

879
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: This is a fun conversation. One trade. We would like

880
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: to see the deadlines coming up next week. You know,

881
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: the NFL isn't known for blockbusters in season. It's not

882
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: it's not impossible. It could happen. Trades do happen occasionally,

883
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: but uh, the ones we're talking about are like fun ones.

884
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: We'd like to see some at some decent ones in

885
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: recent years. Yeah, Trent Richardson, that wasn't at the deadline,

886
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: but it was during this season. Percy Percy Harvin was

887
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: at the deadline last year. Not a blockbuster, certainly, but

888
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: last year, with more trades than normal big name it

889
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: can happen. So let's uh, let's start with Chris Wesley.

890
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: One trade you'd like to see, well, you know, I

891
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: had this all set up. The perfect trade would be

892
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: Steve Smith on a going nowhere Ravens team gets traded

893
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: back home to the Panthers, who desperately need a wide receiver.

894
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: But he shut that down and said he quit, and

895
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: John Harball said it's not happening. He's never trading Steve Smith.

896
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: So I can't do that. I've got to go off

897
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: the map. The Firesale Bears trade Matt Forte and they

898
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: trade Marty b back to the Giants. Both players to

899
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Tom Coughlin, you know this could

900
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: be his last year, Jerry reason, he's the safest job.

901
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: The Giants can run away with. The NFC East, Brashante

902
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: Jennings is terrible this year at running back. Their tight

903
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: ends aren't doing much. Go get Martin Forte and when

904
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: the NFC East, not only that, you have the underrated

905
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: possibility of the all two lane backfield Matt Forte in

906
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Orleans dark while maybe you get it, that was my

907
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: first thought, you get the wealthy more retirement, you're all set,

908
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: and you can Jery recently and bring back Mike Tanner

909
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: bomb get him out of Miami. That ay, I like that.

910
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: That that it will never happen like the Straits probably,

911
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: but it makes a lot of sense for that organization.

912
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: I think it's it's real talk. What would it cost.

913
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: It would be at least a one No, well bet

914
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: not at all. No. I don't think Forte and Benett

915
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: is where you lose it. I think I don't think

916
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: it would make sense to trade Martellis Bennett. The way

917
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: he's playing, he's gonna cost a lot more. His contract

918
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: isn't bad. Fortes at the end of his contract, they're

919
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: not gonna I don't think they're gonna sign him next year.

920
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I think you could just if you just made it

921
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: Forte and you gave up a third round pick, then

922
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: that's that would probably do it for you. Maybe a

923
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: second late a second round if if, if you could

924
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: get Matt Forte for a mid round draft pick, there

925
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: should be thirty one general managers calling the Bears right

926
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: now for a guy who's a free agent at the

927
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: end of the well, they would have to sign him,

928
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: they would have to come up with a a sign.

929
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Perhaps you're overrating how much free agents to be are

930
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: worth compared to Drenk. Bennett's only getting paid five million

931
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: dollars next year for a high level starter. He's I

932
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: think that's where it gets less believable is him. And

933
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking, you know, because these big trades with

934
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: actual blue chips stars don't happen a lot in the NFL,

935
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: but in MLB it happens all the time. You get

936
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: a guy in kind of totally different. We're talking about

937
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be a thirty year old running

938
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: back who's gonna want eight million dollars a year. He

939
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton, but if a team thinks he's

940
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: the missing piece to win a Super Bowl, there's leverage

941
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: to be game there. I think you would be able

942
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: to get at least a second round pick for Matt

943
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: fort I'd be shocked if that was the price. Well,

944
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: we're never gonna find out. Unfortunately, Oh we might. When

945
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: Forte is the one guy I think make if a

946
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: trade is going to happen. I think he's the thing

947
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: is most most contenders don't need a running back. The

948
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: Giants are the one team that does so the al right,

949
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: well my my choice. Here we go. The Broncos are

950
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: six and oh, but everyone knows they're done. Basically, if

951
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: if Peyton Manning is gonna be a top five quarterback,

952
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: they're not gonna go on a deep January run. They're

953
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna get picked off by a team that throttles their

954
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: offense and they're gonna lose, you know, seventeen to six

955
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: or something. So what they need to do. It's a

956
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit of a hail Mary move because if the

957
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: quarterback can't throw anymore, maybe nothing will help him. But

958
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 1: give it a shot. Call up to San Francisco forty

959
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: niners who are going nowhere and get their tight end

960
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: that has been motivated or productive for a few years now.

961
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis. Give Peyton Manning the tight end that he's

962
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: missing now that Julius Thomas has gone. Peyton has always

963
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: been very productive a tight ends, and maybe see if

964
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: it works. You give up a fourth or fifth round pick,

965
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: get Vernon Davis and see if it clicks. And you

966
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: give Peyton Manning uh some type of security blankets, something

967
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: he could trust over the middle, because he needs something

968
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: obviously to save a sinking season. I like it. Fortys

969
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: aren't gonna use Vernon Davis. They they're moving away from him,

970
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: and he I checked on the next gen stats highest

971
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: miles per hour by a tight end this season. Vernon Davis.

972
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: He can still move very and this is the type

973
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: of trade that does happen in the NFL occasionally a

974
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: aging star who's not quite playing like a star. But

975
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: he would add to that offense. And it wouldn't cost much.

976
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: I agree. I think fourth or fifth round pick was plenty.

977
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: Let's do it. John Elway get on the phone, Shy,

978
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: he'll make a move for a veteran Wes. I mean, Greg, Well,

979
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: mine is a little less likely, but it would be fun.

980
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: You know that a f C South. It's a depressing

981
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: time there for the Houston Texans. You could save the

982
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: season by going out and taking that j Cutler contract

983
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: off the Chicago Bears hand. The Bears would love to

984
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: get rid of it. They lived, they'd view this whole

985
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: season as a success that Cutler looks good enough so

986
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: that they could get rid of the contract. You have

987
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler in place for next year. After that, you

988
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: can get out of it if you're Houston. That's better

989
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: than what you got. It's a big upgrade for a

990
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: team that's trying to win, that's got some good players.

991
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: It's a big upgrade to go middle of the pack

992
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: compared to Brian Hoyer. And you can still draft a

993
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: quarterback at the top of the draft like you want.

994
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: You got a lot of that money in Houston, selling

995
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: those tickets, nice sponsorships. The double talk ros and out

996
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: of both sides calls Ryan mout a coach killer. He

997
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: wants to send the coach killing this quarterback of all time.

998
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: He is to the Houston texts. He is patient zero

999
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: of malcontent quarterbacks. It would be hilarious so he can

1000
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: knock another coach off his list. But you know the

1001
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is not a coach saver, so they don't

1002
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: have any options. And Cutler throwing some bombs to your boy,

1003
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. He's like be a an upgrade for a

1004
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: team that Cutler's like Steve and Hanison. He's got this

1005
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: piece of paper above his bed and he's about the

1006
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: cross off Bill O'Brien and lipstick coaches. He's getting fired.

1007
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: It'd be fun, though, come on, you know what, DeAndre

1008
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: Hopkins deserves a better brand of quarterback and say that

1009
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: and he would probably thrive offensive. He gets my line.

1010
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: So's so maligned. Meanwhile, Matthew just gating through life. They're

1011
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: both coach killers, all right, you can called him Mr Cavallary,

1012
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: Mr Cavallary. Of course I knew his I knew his

1013
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Speaker 1: wife before Jay knew her. I used to watch Laguna

1014
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1015
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,480
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1016
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1017
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1018
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1022
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1028
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1029
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1032
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1033
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1034
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,360
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1035
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1036
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Speaker 1: I say wrong? I've got text from people back home

1037
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,680
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1038
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1039
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1040
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1041
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1042
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1043
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Speaker 1: but he was in New York. It's a really promising

1044
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Speaker 1: podcast when you put it all together, your football knowledge,

1045
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1047
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,280
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1048
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Speaker 1: about that? I? You know what, they could be a

1050
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: great show. Let's move on to Thursday night football, the

1051
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: Dolphins at the Patriots, and this is I'm looking forward.

1052
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: I love the af C East obviously, UM, but I

1053
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: also love the idea of the Patriots maybe, you know,

1054
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: licking their wounds a little bit, a big, hard fought

1055
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: victory against the physical Jets team. Uh. And now you

1056
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: turn around on a on a short rest and get

1057
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who are all pumped up, with their pumped

1058
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: up head coach Dan Campbell coming off two big winds,

1059
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: blowout winds, all the confidence in the world. Uh. You

1060
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: put it all together and west this to me, Uh

1061
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: seems like the recipes there for a Thursday Night I'm

1062
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna say it classic. I agree totally. And this is

1063
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: where as Greig would say, my narratives are colliding, because

1064
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: I do think the Dolphins are a playoff team. I

1065
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: think they're the real deal. I think they're playing great.

1066
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just a product of their opponents.

1067
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: I think they are a good football team. But I

1068
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: don't want to disrespect the Patriots, whom Dan believes are

1069
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: my favorite team. You carry that water up and down

1070
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: the hill there. Why wouldn't I They're worthy of our respect.

1071
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: All they do is win every year. And Tom Brady,

1072
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean every year he pulls further and further away

1073
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: from Joe Montana. Joe Montana does not have this sustained

1074
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: excellence and the longevity of Tom Brady, who at age

1075
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: thirty eight, is playing as well as he ever. Cannot

1076
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: disagree with that. That game against the Jets, for me

1077
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: was just a reminder of how like he's We're seeing

1078
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever. I mean, that's it, and he's

1079
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: got everything you need, Greg, you got it. This is

1080
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: your boy. But you gotta be pinching yourself. Five years ago,

1081
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: you never thought Brady would still be at this level.

1082
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was declining. I mean, two

1083
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: thousand nine was coming off the A C L that

1084
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: was that was It made sense that he's uggled then.

1085
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: But I would even say two thousand eleven, two thousand twelve,

1086
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like he wasn't playing at the same quite

1087
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: at the same level. You're just used to seeing the greatest,

1088
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest of all times, so

1089
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: you notice it when he's only a top ten quarterback.

1090
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: And yet right now that Jets game was maybe his

1091
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: best game of the year. And this has been as

1092
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: clean and as good as season as I've ever seen,

1093
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: because I think he's overcoming more than he would have

1094
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven. That's the difference. Last week.

1095
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: You don't really have any running game. It's after Gronk.

1096
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: It's not the most talented wide receiver group in and

1097
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: the offense, and he's making up for the offensive line

1098
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: that he solves the offensive line by himself. They're on

1099
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: their third string. You know that they have to move

1100
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Ulmer to left tackle. They have a third string right tackle.

1101
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: They got rookies at guard. And that's why I'm worried

1102
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: about this matchup, because that's all great and they get

1103
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly. Cameron Wake his last two games,

1104
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: he's playing like the best player in the entire NFL

1105
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: at anything. No, it is for two weeks he has

1106
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: been the best player at any position. And somebody lives

1107
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: the fire under Dominican Sue, and the Dominican Sue is

1108
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 1: playing great and those guys are so talented, and Sean

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: Jones is playing as well as any safety. You can

1110
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: only scheme up so much, so I think that's a

1111
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: tough matchup for what should be a weakness for the Patriots,

1112
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I agree. I agree with all that.

1113
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins defense will give the Patriots trouble.

1114
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots defense is better than people think

1115
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: and as great as the Dolphins offenses. Look, this is

1116
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: not a great matchup for the for the Dolphins. Patriots

1117
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: defense can play. They're so versatile getting high Tower back.

1118
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Last week was had nine plays behind the line of scrimmage.

1119
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: This week he had a monster game. Jamie Collins is versatile.

1120
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. It's such an athletic group there that are

1121
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: all right in their parrota piece on it. They're all

1122
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: like young players in their prime. They're not going anywhere

1123
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: hands us, I know, I know, uh, West, I like that.

1124
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: You definitely have covered yourself on both ends here. I'm

1125
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: not trying to beat the Pats or play them well.

1126
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, they're great. If they get wiped out

1127
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: by the Pets, like, oh, was a terrible matchup, don't

1128
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: worry about if it makes you feel any better. I

1129
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: feel horribly about the corner that I put myself in. Well,

1130
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: they know if they get blown out, then that proves

1131
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: what West was saying wrong because they they should be compared. Agree.

1132
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: This is the third straight Monster game, by the way,

1133
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: for the Pagriot. I don't think it should be a

1134
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: letdown or anything. But the Colts, there was a lot

1135
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: of emotion there. The Jets was a really tough game.

1136
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Here's another game. Every game has been big. They they've

1137
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: been a game plan offense. I think that is how

1138
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 1: you beat the Dolphins. As great as their offense has looked,

1139
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're getting big holes in the running game.

1140
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that will happen. And Tannehill. Tannehill

1141
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: was very good two weeks ago. You were right last week.

1142
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean he did shockingly little to go up forty one.

1143
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Not he didn't do anything average pass and that's no,

1144
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: that's no, nothing wrong with him. It wasn't his fault.

1145
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: He was absolutely perfect. But he made to throw. I

1146
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: went through it and I was just like, how many

1147
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: throws did he make? He made two throws the whole game,

1148
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: six yards I believe in like two eight were after

1149
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the catch. All right, let's do some picks on the

1150
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: this game. Oh, this is a tough one. Here we

1151
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: go West, winner and score. I agree with you that

1152
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: if if the Dolphins get blown out I will never

1153
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: mention them as a playoff team again. If they pull

1154
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: off the upset, constantly mentioning that they're a playoff team

1155
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with it, hey, and

1156
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I will bow down and say you

1157
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: were right, and I should have been more plugged in

1158
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: on this. However. You know, I even set this up

1159
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: as a potential Thursday Night classic. But now I'm really

1160
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I just think the Patriots are

1161
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: so good. It's still it's prime time at Foxboro. Tom

1162
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: Brady playing as well as any quarterback ever fourteen. I'm

1163
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: going thirty to twenty seven Patriots win. You really are

1164
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: covered both ways though here I'm not trying to be

1165
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: I hate that I am a blowout. Really then I'm

1166
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: like Chip Kelly, I have no clothes. Wow, there's so

1167
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: much riding on this game. I can't wait close close

1168
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: game throughout that Patriots out is. I don't think they'll

1169
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: blow him out, all right, that's fair. I would say

1170
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: three three scores. If you're three scores you're not going

1171
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: to add another one at the end. That's just built

1172
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: in another like a little If they lose by eighteen

1173
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: or nineteen, he's covering and'll throw us a pick six

1174
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: to Malcolm Butler with a minute left in the game

1175
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: and they go up seventeen. Not it's not a blowout.

1176
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: All paces covered. Alright, that's it for Tuesday's Editionally Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. We'll be back on Thursday, late Thursday,

1178
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: early Friday show. We'll have the Thursday night game recap

1179
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: that we just talked about, so that will be excellent,

1180
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: and then we will preview all of the week eight games.

1181
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: It goes on and on on and Mark Sessler will

1182
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: be back. I have it on good authority, Cessler. We'll

1183
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: be back in the chair. We'll be back at full strength.

1184
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: So until then, this is Dan Hansis signing off for

1185
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: the mailman. The Boss send me behind the glass. Until that,

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Speaker 1: h