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Speaker 1: just just the thing the world's that Middle Ditch would create.

424
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Speaker 1: No surprise to me that he has gone on to

425
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Speaker 1: the success he has. And also the thing about the

426
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: thing that I missed so much about the UCB Chelsea

427
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: Space is it was able to create amazing actors. I

428
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: think because the space was so small close to the

429
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: stage that you could do something really small and it

430
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Speaker 1: would get a reaction. And so no performer that was

431
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Speaker 1: was there thought like, oh I have to really do

432
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Speaker 1: too much. Like they were encouraged to make those little

433
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Speaker 1: small things, and I think that's why it's created such

434
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Speaker 1: and those are people who are good actors on camera

435
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: because you don't have to be big, you know what

436
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Speaker 1: I mean. But that's not the new space does not

437
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: have that advantage. No, it does not. It's kind of

438
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: just it encourages a different kind of performance, a very

439
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: big performer. I sometimes wonder if I was on a

440
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: team there now if I do better because I'm I

441
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: struggled with being too big sometimes too But listen, it's

442
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: never not a bad thing to have energy. It's not

443
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: a bad thing. But also, what I love about you

444
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: is you are in control of you. The Mary Beth

445
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Speaker 1: Brown vibe is you come to me, but the Marybeth

446
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Speaker 1: Thrown vibe. This is what's so stunning is that it's

447
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: it's it's on one. It's consistent the entire time. There's

448
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: no like every now and then they'll be like a

449
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: little flare up. It's beautiful. It's all intentional. It's you're

450
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: in control of it. But I'm just like that takes patience,

451
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: and that takes practice, and that takes like a discipline,

452
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: and I admire that. Thank you. It's definitely I've I've

453
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: wavered on it in certain moments to be like, well,

454
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: I could just be like big and just like tell

455
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: hacky jokes and have an amazing career. You know, I

456
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Speaker 1: think we all I don't know about you guys, but

457
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: I think for me as a one. I could just

458
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Speaker 1: do the expected and like everything would work out. But

459
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: I've chosen to do me, and I don't want to

460
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: be like, oh, the way I've chosen it so hard.

461
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: That's not how I feel. It's just like sometimes I'm like, yeah,

462
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: this is what I chose and this is what I'm doing,

463
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Speaker 1: But I do you know, it's it's been pretty consistent,

464
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: and I would say since the beginning, because it's truly

465
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: like me on stage and off stage are not that different.

466
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, it's I've definitely found in the last

467
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: year that I've I think I've hit my sweet spot

468
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: with performing on stage and that feels really good. I'm

469
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: sure I'll get better, of course, but it's it's I

470
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: feel like good about where I'm at. You've been popping off.

471
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: I thank you. Who do you Who do you like

472
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: when you were growing up? Like we'll ask you the

473
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: actual question, but like who are your like? Comedic influences?

474
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm curious as a kids like growing up, like who

475
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Speaker 1: are you like? I feel like something about that is right. Well,

476
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: I have five older siblings and three brothers, two sisters,

477
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Speaker 1: so I feel like I was exposed to a lot

478
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: of like more mature culture as a kid. I mean

479
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: I still had my like Mary Kay and Ashley Spice girls,

480
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: Hilary Duff. Those were all the points of angry. Yeah.

481
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: But then, I mean, we always watched a lot of

482
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Speaker 1: Comedy Central. We watched a lot of Chris Farley movies.

483
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: My dad loved comedies, so we would listen to like

484
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Speaker 1: Steve Martin records, we watched I don't out. We would

485
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: watch a lot of old SNL Like. I think those

486
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: things were really important as a kid, just absorbing it

487
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: and not even really knowing that. And then you know,

488
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: I remember, and my mom will deny this, probably actually

489
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: she might not, but when I was little, she was

490
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: like female comedians, they all they do is talk about

491
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: their periods. They're just not funny. And I never forgot

492
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: that because I mean, it's just such an insane thought

493
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: to have. But I so now I don't really do

494
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: period jokes. Your mom is Eliza. My mom is Eliza.

495
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: She looks amazing for her, she looks absolutely incredible. One

496
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Speaker 1: thing you can't take away from a one thing you

497
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: can't take away. But I did internalize that a little bit.

498
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Speaker 1: I mean I never thought comedy could be a career,

499
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: and there just weren't that many women doing it. You know,

500
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: you would see women doing it on SNL, but I

501
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: never I fell into comedy. I didn't. Actually, I wasn't

502
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: like a I wanted to be an actress or a

503
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: pop star when I was younger of one of the two,

504
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: and I didn't care which one because it seemed very glamorous.

505
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: I still don't care which one. I still want to

506
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Speaker 1: be an actress. That will happen, and I don't care

507
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: which one. Someone who's a pop star, I can tell

508
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: you that it's it's the same. But then I just

509
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: was like, it's not realistic. So I didn't even I mean,

510
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: I never even saw an improv show when I signed

511
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: a prim one and one. But you just was that

512
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: just you being like, oh I don't Willie Narly, I'll

513
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: just do it, or was that you being like I'll

514
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: try this out. Like it was just truly like I

515
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: want a hobby. Great, And then my life took such

516
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: a sharp left turn because I was like, oh, this,

517
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Speaker 1: this is what I meant to do. After my first

518
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Speaker 1: open mic, which was an open Michelle at You and

519
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: Sue Smith, and I remember just like the feeling I

520
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: got I had. When I got off stage, I was like,

521
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: oh I found it. Wow, that's great. It was insane

522
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: because before that it was acting or it was that

523
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: was that was the track. No. I was working at

524
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: a tech startup. Oh great, wait which start up? Warby Parker.

525
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: I almost got involved when they didn't give you your

526
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: eclipse glasses. I almost told the social media team to

527
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: reach out to you, because I have a lot of

528
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: friends still there. God, I didn't get involved that ild

529
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: go please. I walked over to because remember during the eclipse, Yeah,

530
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: everyone's giving out those glasses or people were like the

531
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: cereal boxes like whatever. But I think I didn't. I

532
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I didn't think so honey, that's right.

533
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: And I was. I was working down the street from

534
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: the Warby offices, and I gotta say, the people, I mean,

535
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: they've changed offices, but the people at reception at Warby

536
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: some of the some of the coldest, coldest people I've

537
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: ever met in my life. I was just like, I

538
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: got an exam there once and they were like, I'm sorry,

539
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: you're we will wait over there because you're staying in

540
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: the wrong place right now. It was people like really

541
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: giving me a lot of golf, and I was like, oh, okay. Anyway,

542
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: there was a huge theme in your and your I

543
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: don't think so, honeyes of like you being like wronged

544
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: by retail. I'm telling you, there's like if you really,

545
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: if you listen back, there's like a thread. There was

546
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: a strong thread of going like being wrong by people

547
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: who like represent retail, like work for chains, work for brands,

548
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: like it is. It is a very presidents failing one.

549
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey at a time, but when

550
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: you SNL cast member dismantling capital asolutely, Okay. So it

551
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: was Warby and then like but then and then after

552
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: that was just like okay, I'm on this track, I'm

553
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: gonna do comedy. Yeah. I pretty much like blew my

554
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: life up because I was living with my boyfriend at

555
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: the time. We were going to get engaged and he

556
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: just moved to Grammarcy and uh, you know, I had

557
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. I had actually left Warby to

558
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: go to I started in prov at Warby. Then I

559
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: went to a different startup to be a product manager

560
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: and then product manager. Yeah, and then when I was like,

561
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: oh the comedies that comedies it, you know, I quit

562
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: for a month and have a job worked at sole

563
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: cycle front desk. Then I had a few other full

564
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: time jobs and stuff, which is so when was that?

565
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: That was three summers ago. So you you might know

566
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: Ariel Padilla Dave's boyfriends. Yes, I do so great instructor,

567
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: actually a beloved instructor. And in fact, someone someone last

568
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: night even was like I take arials class and I

569
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: saw cycle next to and they pointed to someone who

570
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: was Lucy lou Oh my god. And she would come

571
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: into say she has not aged a day. It is.

572
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: It is actually like beautiful to watch. She's just stunning.

573
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: She's stunning, and she's starting to paint these lesbian erotic paintings.

574
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: What did you see this text on the thread last night? No,

575
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: Lucy lou Is, Oh yes I did. I just didn't

576
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: engage in. She's painting these abstract like lesbian paintings. They're beautiful,

577
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and she's she has a big gallery show and she's

578
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna sell them. Oh my god, I heard she sucking

579
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: slays on the bike. Oh yeah, she rides to the

580
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: beat every time. Um, and the where were your product manager?

581
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Where were your product manager? It was I don't even

582
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: know if it's still a company. It was like a

583
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Tampon subscription company. Not not Lola though, which is like

584
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: the one that everyone knows. It was a different one. Um,

585
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: and I just was like, wait, this is not what

586
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: I want to do. Wow. But you were like managing.

587
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: You were just like using like asana and ship and

588
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, what is that. It's this like the

589
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: worst thing. It's this platform where you like a sign

590
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: projects and you update status. You make everything into tasks

591
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: and then you move them into different like buckets, and

592
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: this is the opposite of comedy. No, it is truly

593
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: the opposite of live comedy. And I was happy that

594
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: I like had that experience because I made a lot

595
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: more money at that job than I did at my

596
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: previous job, and I knew that money was not the thing. Like, yeah,

597
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: obviously I love money, literally obsessed with it. I think

598
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: money is like the best and yes, and that movie

599
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: upset me, but it was very good. It was a

600
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: very good film. Uh So I just realized in that

601
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: through that experience, like I don't care right now about

602
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: money because clearly making more of it's not going to

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: make me enjoy my job. So I just want to

604
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: do what I want to do beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful,

605
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: honestly worth it. Yeah. Well, I mean I have no regrets.

606
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I've for some reason, like I just take these huge

607
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: leaps in my life, like dropping out of college, moving

608
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: to New York, and then doing this comedy stuff. It's

609
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: like what I don't Sometimes I look back and I'm like,

610
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe I did that, But I wouldn't done

611
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: it any other way. Where did you go that you

612
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: dropped out of Boston College BC? I very nearly want

613
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: to BC. Actually such a good school. Yeah, it's a

614
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: great school. If you're an elitist, What can tell you

615
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: to drop out? I just was studying to be an

616
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: English teacher and I didn't want to do jesus. Yeah,

617
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: so what an expensive place to go? Who? Yeah, if

618
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: you're if you're starting to be an English teacher at

619
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Boston College, drop out, No, you're you can go to

620
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: a you can go to a state school or a

621
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: community college. No, no, no, not JK. Not JK is insane.

622
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: He want to dismantle capitalism. We have to start you

623
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: start with higher education. Start with higher education. Truly. Do

624
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: not do stories, yes, yes, not just listen. If you're

625
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: there like, and this is abruptly shocked to you, like

626
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: intern examine yourself. You should examine that, ask yourself why,

627
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: if this is true, what else is true? Yes? And

628
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: these are things, These are things are actually really good.

629
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: These are things. So wow, how long did you go

630
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: to just for two years? Two years is a long time. Yeah,

631
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah at the midpoint, you're like, I gotta decide,

632
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Was that rough with the parents when

633
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: you dropped out? Well, I'm lucky and being the youngest,

634
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: my parents are like we just want our kids to

635
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: be have to They're like we're tired. Just what and've

636
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: their five other kids like truly like kept through the Yeah. Yeah,

637
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: and like you know, my oldest brother pursued being a

638
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: professional athlete for a while and that was like I

639
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: mean I think just watching him do that and like

640
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: take that risk too was good. Um, so they were

641
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: just really supportive. I mean they definitely were like worried,

642
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I went to Catholic school for

643
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: ten years and that was like in Greenwich, Connecticut. We

644
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: had one black person in our whole school. And then

645
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I went to public high school and that was like

646
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a huge culture shock. And I met all these people

647
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, and then when I went to BC,

648
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: it was like Catholic school all over again. So I

649
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: just was like, I don't want to be a on

650
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: these people. You would see the other side. Yeah, and

651
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not touting myself as like, oh

652
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: my god. When I was twenty, I was so woke

653
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: and I was just like all these white people, but

654
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: it was so like homogeneous, and everyone's dad was like

655
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: a senator or likened Pcarty, and I was just like,

656
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: this isn't it. Everyone's dad owned Yeah truly, So I

657
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: just I said no more. Yeah, it really is. Um

658
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: it feels when you're there on campus. Remember I went

659
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to the tour, It is like you can't stop talking

660
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: about how beautiful it is and like cathedrals, and it

661
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: really is such like a it's such like a trap

662
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: for white parents from the suburb, you know what I mean,

663
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Like if you can afford to take your kid there

664
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: and you go there, it's so beautiful and it's so

665
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: like white. It's a good school, like it makes I

666
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: think in terms of academics. It's on top of that,

667
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: I think it makes some okay boomers feel you know

668
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: what I'm safest, but I'll tell you what. They don't

669
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: have their culture. Culture. Um, I think any people are

670
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: made a funny joke about Boston College because she gave

671
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: some speech at Harvard and she was famous alumna. She

672
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: she goes I went to Boston College, which some say

673
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: is the Harvard oft. I think it's such a funny thing.

674
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: That is very good bringing it back to UCB. Okay,

675
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: should asked Mary read the question we have actually even

676
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: floating around around now we should actually attack. Um, you

677
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: asked it. Okay, so Mary with room, what was the

678
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture was for you? This

679
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: is the culture that when you looked out the window,

680
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: it was the one cloud in the sky and you

681
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: were like, m I see that cloud filling up and

682
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: it will rain down on failing up. Yeah, the first

683
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: culture and whatnot? The first culture I saw and said

684
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: that was definitely Mary Kayton culture. My god, can you

685
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: believe it's first time we have discussed Mary culture. I mean, well,

686
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: it was like it was the perfect storm. Because I

687
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: was young when they were playing Michelle on I mean

688
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I think those might have even been reruns at that point.

689
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: But my older siblings would watch show because it's a

690
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: family comedy, and I was just like, who are these

691
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: just amazingly talented actresses. They're playing one character between the

692
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: two of them, and that I've never seen that before.

693
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: You never know who you were. It truly did, and

694
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: I know it's because of child labor laws so they

695
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: could get more out of the kids and they didn't

696
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: have to, I guess, take as many breaks. But then

697
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, Mary Kayton Nashley, for me was like they

698
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: really came at you from all angles. They had to

699
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: sleep over series, they had will Solve Any Crime by

700
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: dinner time, they had the fan club, they had feature films.

701
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Someone to theaters, not a lot of them, but then

702
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: some of them went straight in New York minute and

703
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I think It Takes Two is in theaters as well.

704
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Actually Takes Two is actually very good culture formative and listen.

705
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: So I performed It Takes Two as a one woman's

706
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: show at the Slipper Room in June on the eve

707
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: of the Also Twins birthday, and it was so much fun.

708
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: But it was like it was such a passion project

709
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: for me because I wanted to at forever. I know,

710
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: the movies start to finish all the lines anyway. But

711
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: when I was little, I used to freak out when

712
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: my parents would go to dinner, like when they would

713
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: leave me with the babysitter. I was just like, don't go.

714
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: I have attachment issues. But that's for another podcast. Uh.

715
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: And I remember one night my mom was like, well,

716
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: we got you a president's surprised, like we're you know,

717
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: for while we're gone, And I was like, what is it?

718
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: And she was like, well, who are your favorite celebrities?

719
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: And I was like four, and I didn't really know

720
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: what that meant, but she was like, she gave me

721
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: the hs if it takes two. So I would watch

722
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: that movie to fall asleep. I've probably seen it hundreds

723
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: and hundreds of times, and it just for me that

724
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: they were just it, you know, Mary, Kate, Mary Beth.

725
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: I felt very connected and even though as she was

726
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: more of the fashion one, it's just like, I don't know,

727
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: for me at that age, it was just like, oh

728
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: my god, this is it. Also, they were very good

729
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: in that, and I will say there's a couple of

730
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: kind of things about that movie. One the chemistry between

731
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: Gutenberg and Kirst Listen, we we have our thoughts about

732
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Kirst Alley. Now we wish her well on her journey

733
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: and we hope that that we hope that works itself out.

734
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Well, she's a scientology and

735
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: very much but but you can't argue that absolutely iconic,

736
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: comedic actress and her in Gutenberg in the water when

737
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: when his shirt gets stucked it he's so hot, He's

738
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: literally so hot. Gutenberg is, I would let him crush me,

739
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and so no, I really would to this day. And um,

740
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: Kirsty Alley and then they were so amazing the chemistry

741
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: between them and also the iconic. I always love a

742
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: good white bitch girlfriend. Yeah, she was iconic. Diet coke

743
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: coming up. I love the delivery of like because you know,

744
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: it's like the actress made the choice, like I need

745
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: to keep my way with for even longer, and she

746
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: just goes with that is masterful. And she's at the

747
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: telescope and that's after the gum has been spitting her hair,

748
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: so she's short hair. Oh my god, I'm telling you

749
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: you need especially it's a rule of culture. You need

750
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: a good white bitch girlfriend number thirty three. Oh my god,

751
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you she was iconic, and I wish that

752
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: she booked more. And you know what's fun about that

753
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: movie is, and I've said this before, it's the parent

754
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: chop without the science. Yeah, they're identical strangers and it

755
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: has never explained also the line of strangers, and it's

756
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: like what and you just fully accept it. And here's

757
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: the realty. They're not identical. They're not. They're fraternal, which

758
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. And my sister fought

759
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: me tooth and nail on this and she said, I

760
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: bet you can't tell them apart. She held a picture,

761
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: held up several pictures, and I could tell them apart

762
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: every time. What are the defining difference just in terms

763
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: of like how the the egg gets fertilized? That's all

764
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: it is, right, No, that I understand. Sorry, sorry sorry,

765
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: that was the most Like what are the differences between

766
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: Mary Kit and Ashley? And you're like, well, it's how

767
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: that gets fertilized. That was iconic. You are super Yes,

768
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: what are the differences between them? Well, Ashley, Ashley's face

769
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: is a little longer and they have a slightly different

770
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: nose and there. I mean, it's just their faces are

771
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: slightly different. It's very subtle. And you know, and when

772
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: they were twelve or eight or however old they were

773
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: in that movie, wasn't like so noticeable, right, They've since

774
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: grown into quite different. Yes, how do you feel about

775
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: them now? Like, how do you feel about them now?

776
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: How they exist as people? I am just happy that

777
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: they seem to be as well adjusted as they possibly

778
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: can be. Youngest billionaires in the world they were when

779
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 1: they their dual star production companies. I know they changed

780
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: smoked cigarettes and they both date like fift year olds.

781
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm just happy they get through the day. I'm probably

782
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: them for getting through the day. And you know, I'm

783
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: actually happy they stuck to their guns and didn't do

784
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: that full house reboot and they and they have their

785
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: fashion line which keeps them busy, and I think that's great.

786
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: But also, yeah, you're right about there is something to

787
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: be said about how and yeah, let's just use the

788
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: term ill adjusted. I'm not not that that was I'm

789
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: just like, is that the right term? But yeah, that's

790
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: because I would say and to draw comparison to like

791
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: a lohand it's like, yeah, like that could have gone,

792
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: that could have swung so far in a bad direction,

793
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: and they seem to be doing great. They had one

794
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: of them. Which one of them? They both one of

795
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: them had bowls full of cigarettes at her wedding. At

796
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: her wedding, which one was that Mary Kay? Think it

797
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: was Mary Kay. She just cart like cartons of cigarettes

798
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: at her wedding. And which one was on weeds? Oh,

799
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: one of them was on weeds. I remember. It was

800
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: like iconic that one of them was doing something without

801
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: the other. It was probably Mary Kay. She seems to

802
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: be the one that goes rogue. Are we fans of

803
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Olsen Yessan just only recently saw Ingrid Goes West. Oh,

804
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: very good. I loved the entire thing. It's in. Elizabeth

805
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: is incredible and she's actually iconic in it plays plays

806
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: that part of the influencer so well and makes you

807
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: actually very fascinating performance because you've seen this right, like

808
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: because you get that she's like a little bit of

809
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: a ridiculous person, but then when you meet her, you're

810
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: also like, you can't hate her, No, you can't, because

811
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: she's also trying hard and has the same insecurities. And

812
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: it's like as her character gets flushed out more, even

813
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: towards the end where she's like telling spoiler alert, where

814
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: she's telling every Plaza like this is crazy, like you

815
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: are on her side, but also she is helping create

816
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: an environment that that really traumatizes people that look up

817
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: to people like right right, And so it was I

818
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: thought that was one of the best movies of the

819
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: past few years, that it was so good and it

820
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: was so truthful, like the writing. I don't know everything

821
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: about it, just blue. It's stunned me really because I

822
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect going into it. When I

823
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: watched it, I thought it was that none movie that

824
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: Abby Plaza had been in, So this was truly different

825
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: than what I was expecting, very different films. Also, Um,

826
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: that was incredible. That was like I was always like

827
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of an Aubrey Plaza skeptic because I

828
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of like hesitant about the kind

829
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: of like dead pan like thing that she always seemed

830
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: to do. And then as she's grown into an like

831
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: an actress capital, I am into it. And also she

832
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: was very good on that effect show with the superhero show.

833
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: H Um, you know the one what the guy from

834
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: Downton Abbey, I don't know that one. It was like, yeah, yeah,

835
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the name. But she she played essentially played

836
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: the villain on it, and it's very good. She gives

837
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: some very performances nowadays, and she could fucking sob like nobody.

838
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: That movie was amazing and also I really liked the

839
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: way it ended, so spoiler alert, but basically, like Ingrid

840
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: is trying to become social media fans in the way

841
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: that Elizabeth Olsen is social media famous. And Elizabeth Olson

842
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: is very much like that sunny girl in the hat

843
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: that's like iced coffee today, iced Queen never or something

844
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: stupid like I'm happy and like and like she's like

845
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm happy. Bitches, Yeah, it's happy. But

846
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: um so, basically, uh, Aubrey Plas is very mentally ill,

847
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and she um there's like an attempt on her own

848
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: life and she she posts a video. She posts a

849
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: video and is like, um, basically kind of becomes like

850
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: a symbol of like I'm I need help and and

851
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm really struggling, and she unsuccessfully tries to tick her

852
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: own life, wakes up, sees that she has become like

853
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: an icon in this way, and her face lights up

854
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: and you realize, like, wow, she hasn't actually changed. It's

855
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: it's not a happy ending. I would say, no, there,

856
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily happy. It's a comment I think, yes,

857
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: I on the deep sickness that we all have when

858
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: it comes to social media on more than others. But

859
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: fascinating movie I thought very timely, like I would I

860
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: would even say, like, really missed a screenplay nomination and

861
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: just like it did not get the praises. I mean

862
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: they were there have been. I feel this way about

863
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: like a handful of movies over the last few years,

864
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: but that movie specifically just did not get to play

865
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: it deserves. That could be the It's not a mean girls,

866
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: but it's like it should have the icon status of

867
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: like a movie that truly defines our time. It defines

868
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: I think it's the for me. It feels like the earliest,

869
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: not the earliest, but one of the bigger artistic statements

870
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: about this generation in social media, just the way that

871
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: people relate to it. I think it got something so

872
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: so right. Well. That production company Neon, they're starting to

873
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: pop off, and I think it was one of their

874
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: first things. And I think, you know, as that production

875
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: company and whoever is working there is obviously finding really

876
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: interesting scripts and really producing great stuff. It feels like

877
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: they'll start to pop off even more. I believe that

878
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: year they also did that twentieth Century Women. Yea, so

879
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: they they're telling female stories. And you know, I think

880
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: a large reason why maybe Ingrid Goes West didn't get

881
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: the attention that that maybe should have is because of

882
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: about young women, and it's about social media, which I

883
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: think people are yeah, yeah, and they think, well, we

884
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: can't necessarily take this seriously. But I mean, then again,

885
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: you have The Social Network, which I think is one

886
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: of the movies people took the most seriously over the

887
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: last ten years, and when I saw it, I was like,

888
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: very taken with it. And now with what Facebook has

889
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: become in the narrative now, it's it's so interesting. I

890
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: almost would like to see not Aaron Sorkin do this,

891
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: se to that, because I mean, it's the narrative of

892
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: Facebook now is completely changed and more from what it

893
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: was when that movie came. Right. Um, but the OLSA,

894
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: so you do you identify with me Mary Kate More,

895
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: you would say, I guess like they both because they're geminis.

896
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm a gemini. That was always a huge deal to

897
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: me as well. I feel like, I don't know, I

898
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: think I have like shades of both. But it was

899
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: really I think it was good to grow up as

900
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: a young girl in the early nineties because there were

901
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: so many like powerful iconic women at that time. Like

902
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know as a kid that like women were

903
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: still struggling, you know what I mean. And I was like, Oh,

904
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: everything's fixed, like there's no issues. I didn't have that

905
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: like consciousness till I grew up a little bit more.

906
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: But it was like you had the Spice Girls, Britney

907
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Spears was huge, like Christine Aguilera, even like the Jessic Simpsons,

908
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore's. That whole moment was like as I was

909
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: growing up, And I think that even also like I

910
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: love the eighties, nineties, seventies, when when I would watch that,

911
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: it gave such a nice taste of like cultures past,

912
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: but in a frivolous way that like didn't really underloadt

913
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: low stakes. Yeah, so that was huge also. I mean

914
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: v H one, I feel like, for some reason, was

915
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: like very influential in my cultural knowledge as a kid.

916
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: Were you not allowed to watch MTV, not allowed to

917
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: watch MTV? I was not allowed to watch MTV because

918
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: for some reason, every time it was on. I think

919
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: it was like the sexual stuff for like dating shows

920
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: were always on. My mom was like, you are not

921
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: watching this, so she would turn on vach She said

922
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: you can watch one, which I don't know how if

923
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: you feel this way, but I think that it was

924
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: just as sexual. It was just like more mature and

925
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: more like underhanded, right, So it was like instead of

926
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: like instead of like close up shots of like Britney

927
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: Spears's crotch, it was like Shania Twain wrapped up in

928
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: like a wool sheet like and like watching a man

929
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: in like a black and white video like sort of

930
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Approacher on the Beach, And I was like, this is

931
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: just as erotic, right. I remember VH one in this

932
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: What's that song? The first song that More and five

933
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: came out with, this last this Love the video on

934
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: VH one they censored it. IMTV they did not. That

935
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: was I don't know about you, but that Adam leaving

936
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: was actually a sexual awakening for me at that time.

937
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: That video video goes there, it really goes down. I

938
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: mean he's on top of her. He looks at the

939
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: camera and says keep her coming every night, and they're

940
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: literally having sex and literally he was on top of her.

941
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: He was I love like like fucking skinny, like like

942
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: the kind of like like he was so like like

943
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: I have in a band thin at that time. And

944
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: he had like his like long hair, and he was

945
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: like he looked older than than he does now, I'll say.

946
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: And he rolled over on top of this like model

947
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: and looked into the camera and said, A keeper coming

948
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: every night. And I was just like, this is a

949
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: this is sex. There's no choice. Do you think, Like

950
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: what can you think before this this love video of like,

951
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: well I get I remember the very first time I

952
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: heard the song Harder to Breathe, and I was like,

953
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: what is this? This guy's voice is great, and we

954
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: were I remember I was driving home from a baseball

955
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: tournament from upstate New York and we were like, remember

956
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: it was like we were winding through like it's so visceral.

957
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: We were like winding through um these like sort of

958
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: roads in like Cooperstown, New York, because it's very hilly

959
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: and Harder to Breathe came out and I was like,

960
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: is this justin timber Lake? I remember I thought it

961
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: was justin timber Lake, but I was like, there's some

962
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: other quality about this voice I haven't heard but four,

963
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: and I was like remembering. I remember I wrote down

964
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the words Harder to Breathe because I figured that was

965
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: the name of the song because at that time, it

966
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: was like there was no like And then did you

967
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: go to eight to the lyrics dot com? Yes, I

968
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: looked it up on my family's computer. It's so weird

969
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: to think about how how far the technology has come then,

970
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: like this is still around the time where you had

971
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: like really searched for a song you loved if you

972
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: wanted to hear it. But I remember that song was

973
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: just like so incredible, and then this love I was

974
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: like wow, and then she will be loved like Sunday Morning.

975
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: That's very good album. Yeah, and the second album, what

976
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: is it won't be soon? Really good. I actually I

977
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: have to say, like, I know they're a joke, but

978
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: I love do I Oh, I love. I mean, I'm

979
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: not even ashamed of it. You know what I like

980
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: Cold Play? While we're at it, come on, sorry, give

981
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: it to us cold cold Play. I will say I

982
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: saw Maroon five. I saw Maroon five in the Counting

983
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: cirls on in a concert one time. I've literally tried

984
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: to go see other ba ends and as a result,

985
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: I've seen the Counting Crows three times because they've always

986
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: been on bills. I've seen Google Dolls and they played

987
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: with Counting Crows, and I've seen Maroon five and they

988
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: played with the Counting Crows, and both times, like the

989
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: Counting Crows were like obviously the main thing and mostly

990
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: straight guys and always at Jones Beach and literally the

991
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: opening act for Maroon five and Counting Crows was someone

992
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: I was so annoyed to see at the time, who

993
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: I am now a huge fan of. Sarah Burrellis and

994
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: friend Allison were like in the back like Jones Beach,

995
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: like when is this bitch gonna stop singing? Like shop

996
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: stop with the love song. It's so annoying, it's so

997
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: played out. And now it's like I stand Sarah Brellis,

998
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: like things change and now it's like she would obviously

999
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: headline that show. Yeah, there are worse bands thought to

1000
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: like be like tro for sure, but I remember they

1001
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: didn't play long December and if almost like what the

1002
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: fun Like Adam Durs was like all right, good night,

1003
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: and then it was just like it was like they

1004
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: didn't play like their number one song and everyone was

1005
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: like really mad to watch these straight men get like

1006
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: their dicks soft because they weren't going to hear long

1007
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: December by the Counting Crows. B I'm a white man

1008
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: with dreadlocks by woman threadlocks. Absolutely, wait, let's I'm really

1009
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: curious to know this about Marybeth Um. Let's just give you.

1010
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: Let's just give you a few things. Yeah, let's give

1011
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: you a Folston Twins, Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, and then

1012
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: like who I just want like not a ranking, but

1013
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: like just like a quick little assessment. And did you

1014
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: also love Raven? I was a Raven fan. Well, I

1015
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: watched all those I mean, I mean this is I

1016
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: watched The Cosby Show. So another huge part of culture

1017
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: for me was Nick at Night because I Love Lucy

1018
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: was on and that became my absolute favorite show, my

1019
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: obsession for holidays. When my relatives would get me presents,

1020
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: it was always like I Love Lucy themed. I would

1021
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: have the dhs of like best episodes. I mean, I

1022
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: like stand that show so hard. My phone's name is

1023
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Lucy mcguilla cutty, and that will be when I have

1024
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: to make hotel reservations. So it's like I don't know,

1025
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: Nick and Knight was so like integirl and I watched

1026
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: The Cosby Show and there was all in the family.

1027
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: But Jefferson's like that. And you know what gen Z

1028
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: has comedy. It's very sad, very sad because that show

1029
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: and if you watch it again, the fact that they

1030
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: were able to make so many episodes in a studio

1031
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: with four main characters, and every single episode is so different,

1032
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: and the hijinks of it all, it's just like some

1033
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: episodes are a little maybe problematic. But she had so

1034
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: much agency on that show. She was she was an

1035
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: icon and she owned that production company with Desi and

1036
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: they they basically like were pioneers of the television. And

1037
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean also I think one of, if not the

1038
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: best physical comedian. Yeah. So that's when I met Raven

1039
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: Simone for the first time. Was on Rudy. Rudy was

1040
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: played by um um, we know, we know that. I

1041
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: just I just blocked out what was Raven's I know,

1042
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: I forget her name on the show. It's so cute

1043
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: and she was always wearing a little like jumpsuit, you know,

1044
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: just made funny like quips to Bill Cosby. I have

1045
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: to I have to find out doctor dood a little

1046
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: to remember that. I was, like I was, I was

1047
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: obsessed with Raven. I saw Raven Beverly Center three weeks ago. Yes,

1048
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: of course it's actually she's like, it's real culture number ten.

1049
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: She's still working, she's still doing stuff. She's she's out there.

1050
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I think she was. She was on a reality show recently. Huh. Yes,

1051
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: she was on like Big Brother or something. Yeah. Right,

1052
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: still still got any work. I'd love to see it. Yeah,

1053
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's this thing now where it's like, there's

1054
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: no it's harder for somehow, it's harder to for for

1055
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: gen Z to access to those things because they're not

1056
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: being it's not being curated for that well, there's too much. Yeah,

1057
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: and it's like on Hulu. I mean I'm thinking abouts

1058
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: on Hulu because I know where to find it. But

1059
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: as someone who was like fourteen right now and like

1060
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: a black and white show with like an audience when

1061
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: I watched that, But if you're listening to the sneer

1062
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: gen Z, I just urge you to watch it start

1063
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: to finish. There's not a dull moment. It's so good,

1064
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: so many iconic episodes. Absolutely, I mean I memorized that

1065
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: whole monologue, and I wanted my mom to fill me

1066
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: doing it in our kitchen, and I got so nervous

1067
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: when she wrote the camera out that I could not

1068
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: physically get the words out. But like when I think

1069
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: back on my early days, there were a lot of

1070
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: things that pointed to where I'm at now, but I

1071
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: just didn't know time. Yeah, for sure didn't realize totally.

1072
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: But you'll never forget the conveyor belt with the chocolates

1073
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: something really so many good things. And I learned what

1074
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: a counterfeit was from that show because remember like when

1075
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: she accidentally pays with the counterfeit bell and she gets

1076
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: like arrest out. It's so great, amazing. There are two beds,

1077
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: two beds that they pushed together for the first time

1078
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: in TV history. They shared a bed, never shared a bed,

1079
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: and a woman had never been pregnant on TV. Yes,

1080
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: and that was that was iconic to that when they

1081
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: dealt with the fact that she had the baby, yeah right,

1082
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: but they never discussed sex or anything. Obviously the episode.

1083
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: I almost had chills thinking about the episode where she

1084
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: tells Ricky she's pregnant. Any sings this song We're having

1085
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: a baby at the Tropicana. Oh my god, that and

1086
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: it's that episode. I don't think it's on Hulu, but

1087
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: it's so goddamn good. And also they were classic chemistry too,

1088
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean that was power couple, like one of the

1089
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: first like entertainment power couples you can think of. You know,

1090
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: this is actually so weird, but that we're talking about

1091
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: this because I just took my parents were in town

1092
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: in l A. And they wanted to do the Paramount

1093
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: Studio tour. So we did that and they talked all

1094
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: about how they Desilu the production company like also produced

1095
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Star Trek. I mean yeah, like they were responsible for

1096
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: so much and then when they divorced, um Lucy sold

1097
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: the company and those it became something else. But how

1098
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 1: how much money she got from that and she continued

1099
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: to produce and like she was like a icon and

1100
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: to also be that business woman and icon and businesswoman

1101
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: at the time like to be taken so seriously probably

1102
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: had something to do with No one could do what

1103
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: she did on just I mean you could not argue

1104
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: with her sheer talent, not replace that, no her in

1105
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: that role or with anything she did, like names she

1106
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: played name you know, well she did and she had

1107
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: so many great movies before the show where she's just gorgeous.

1108
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, just like we worship beautiful. She was a

1109
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: silent film actress. That's how she started, and she started

1110
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: like doing silent dramatic film acting. And I think, you know,

1111
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: it's just so interesting that there really wasn't like a

1112
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: comedy female comedy star before her, or if there were,

1113
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: like it was like more of a vaudeville moment, right,

1114
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, like back I guess back in the day

1115
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: day day, like the Fanny Brices of it all. But

1116
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, well, speaking of that, one thing, I'm excited

1117
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: to see that for culture. One thing I mean I'm

1118
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: excited for the for this to happen in the culture

1119
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: is for there to be the first gay male stand

1120
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: up that really is like just just the biggest name

1121
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: in comedy at the time. Like I feel like Amy

1122
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Schumer had it for women for a little bit, and

1123
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for the first gay mail stand up

1124
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: to just like bust through the ceiling. Yeah, I mean

1125
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: I think that everyone there there are some people making

1126
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: making plays for it. I'm sure you know. It's it's

1127
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: it's so interesting And I was thinking about, like this

1128
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: is so weird. But I was thinking about how like

1129
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: Buddha Judge is doing very well in Iowa, you know

1130
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, and he may even win the Iowa Caucus.

1131
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: And I was thinking to myself, like, I just never

1132
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: I still don't really trust it. Like whenever anyone really

1133
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: gets behind the game, man, I'm like, are you gonna

1134
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: like hurt us later? It feels like a trick, you know,

1135
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: like my like high school mentality comes back where it's like,

1136
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: at what point do you am I going to get

1137
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: made fun of? Like it's almost like so whenever there's

1138
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: like and I'm happy that it's happening, like it feels

1139
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: like there's like it's definitely more people game gay people

1140
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: occupying the mainstream. But I'm always just like I guess

1141
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: that where of that last generation where it's like I'm

1142
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: side eying it a little bit of course, you know

1143
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I feel like gen Z doesn't

1144
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: necessarily they don't have those hang ups have that because

1145
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: I think they're growing up in like an easier world

1146
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: for the most part in terms of acceptance of that.

1147
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: But it's just it's interesting that you say that because

1148
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: I've thought, you know who will be that first huge

1149
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: marquee male gay comedy star. There's definitely lots of names

1150
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: that come to mind. There are some candidates, Darling. I mean,

1151
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: I think it's great that Billy is going to be

1152
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: in that it's gonna be romantic comedy. It's introduced by

1153
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: John Appeta. I think that's great. You know, he's not

1154
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: as much of a stand up stand you're talking specifically

1155
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: stand up if I'll name names like Jabookie is like

1156
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: the bridge between gen Z and millennials, and like he

1157
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: is able to like just turn out like fucking hits

1158
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: every single day. He's a He's a damn star. I

1159
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: feel like he is like pushing a lot of stuff forward,

1160
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: I guess, And I don't want to be like I

1161
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: totally bedicting or anything. He's like phenomenal. I guess, Like

1162
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm trying not to be reductive when I

1163
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: say this, But sometimes it's like when you see stand

1164
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: ups talk and I think, what what I really relate

1165
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: to in a stand up is when they talk so

1166
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: openly and emotionally raw about their life, you know what

1167
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, and that that includes their sex life, that

1168
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: obviously includes their love life, dating life, social engagement with

1169
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: the relationships with our friends. Um, I wonder if like

1170
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: if people really saw a game, you know, like pop

1171
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: off about gay sex and you see I mean, like

1172
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: for example, Jolie, like he is very honest about like

1173
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: his I mean, unabashedly and his Twitter is what it

1174
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: is and you know what I mean, Like and even

1175
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: though he's like you know on TV now and like

1176
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: he's doing his thing like his he does not compromise

1177
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: his comedy at all, at his point of view at all.

1178
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really am curious about like when

1179
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: everyone does that, like which which is happening more and more,

1180
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: like how the mainstream is going to respond to that

1181
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: and whether or not they'll push us up or be

1182
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: like cool, yeah, and we feel like you're occupying enough space.

1183
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: And now we'll we'll we'll we'll watch our Bill Burr

1184
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: vide out now because you know what's going to happen,

1185
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: is I hope, right, I hope. I think What's what

1186
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I hope it's going to happen? Is I watched I

1187
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: think can watched Richard Pryor again for the first time

1188
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: in a while, and like just like otherworldly, like you're

1189
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: like what like everyone is just like like just eating

1190
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: out of the palm of his fucking hand, and it's

1191
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: like best best of all time. Like there's gonna be

1192
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: like something like that. I think. I think that's probably

1193
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Mary is like some someone is gonna

1194
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: come or maybe they're already here where it's just like

1195
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna like light themselves on fire. They're gonna do

1196
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: something that's gonna get people, that's gonna make people go crazy,

1197
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be in a good way. They're like, Wow,

1198
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: this is something we've never seen before, and this is

1199
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: huge and this is Yeah. Also, I think like the

1200
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: way I think about it is like gay men and

1201
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: young women I think have the spending power right now,

1202
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: Like they're the people that are going out to see

1203
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: these things. Are the people that are like buying merch

1204
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: not even to think about it in such like productive terms,

1205
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: but it's like at a very basic level, I think

1206
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: if if there is one person that kind of rises,

1207
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: it will the people that matter, whose opinions matter, will

1208
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: will like propel that person forward. I think the only

1209
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: thing I see in in that would be tough And

1210
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to make like a comment on gay

1211
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: culture is like just not having them taken down from within,

1212
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What I see is people

1213
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: canceling each other, and it's like, well, let's just let's

1214
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: just get this going. Let's not be our own like

1215
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: biggest block. Let's not It's it's like with everything. I mean,

1216
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: dot's not eat it before it happens. And I think

1217
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: you are right to say that because for a long time,

1218
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think this obviously with women as well. You

1219
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: know what you see, you see it especially in every

1220
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: in every field. You see it especially I mean never

1221
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: more than with black female rappers. What we do to them,

1222
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and what and what you

1223
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: know they do to each other because we're all exists

1224
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: in a space where they're historically has not been room

1225
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: for more than one and so when it looks like

1226
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: that space is going to be taken, what happens to

1227
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: you inside is you get you go into attack mode. Um,

1228
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: it's the smith of their not being enough. Yeah, whatever,

1229
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote Tina Tina. Tina writes about this embossians

1230
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: she does when she talks about women, like talking in

1231
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: terms of competing with other women, It's like, no, you're

1232
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: not in competition with women, You're in competition with everybody,

1233
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: which I know sounds like a very like lazy way

1234
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: of like a simplified way of thinking about it, but

1235
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: it really is what that is because you're in competition

1236
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: with people who are parenting, who are feeding us the

1237
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: line of well there's not enough room, like who think

1238
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: about who is saying that? Well, I would agree, But

1239
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: I also I think like we cannot ignore the reality

1240
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: that like the people that are making decisions, they do

1241
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: have a mentality of what we have one you know

1242
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: what I mean? Are they have They have had that

1243
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: mentality And so it's something that I'm so happy that

1244
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: like we're talking about, because once that gets vocalized, you know,

1245
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: it's not acceptable. And so now that it's like out

1246
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: there in public knowledge that it's not acceptable, and we

1247
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: know there's so much talent there are now is fully

1248
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: no excuse. So so we shouldn't feed into that mentality

1249
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: as well. And that's where I think, like we should

1250
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: get behind what she's saying. Bitch, here's what I'm gonna say,

1251
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: and I don't feel uncomfortable saying this. Joel and I

1252
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: were on fucking Molly on Fire Island and We're both

1253
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: looking at each other's eyes and said, I'm so fucking

1254
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: happy that we're both this is happening for both of

1255
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: us together, that we like because this just disproves that

1256
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: whole myth entirely. But there's only even for one like

1257
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: a gay sest Asian male comedian to succeed. That is

1258
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: so that is patently false. I mean, it's it's it's

1259
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: definitely speaks volumes that I mean even on NBC there's

1260
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Manico and there's Joel Well Rest in Peace Sunny Side

1261
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: on NBC, but now it's on Hulu. But the fact

1262
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: that it still stands, you know what I mean that

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: three queer Asian people on the same network network and

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: you know what, that's it's it wouldn't have been guess

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: what NBC is still standing, you know what I meant,

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: torn down remains and that is just further proof that

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01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: it is possible in this climate. I think, I mean,

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01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: it's an exciting time to come up because I think

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: people are getting more aware of the like um self

1270
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: sabotage that we have that we do like in our

1271
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: little pockets and communities. But it's also you know, then

1272
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: there's more opportunity than ever, there's more streaming platforms, blah

1273
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: blah blah. But I'm just excited to see the real

1274
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: shift happened because there's a lot of talking about it,

1275
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's just like okay, I'm ready. Yeah.

1276
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: You know what makes me so happy is that when

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01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: Dave and I are booking like game show, it often

1278
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: it's harder to think of contestants that are the straight

1279
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: men to come on the show than it is to

1280
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: book the Woman who Gets It or the Wise Queer, like,

1281
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: which are the lifelines because two straight men compete with

1282
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: each other to be honorarily gay as fun, they each

1283
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: have a lifeline. You both have been incredible on the show,

1284
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: the Woman who Gets It and the Wise Queer. And

1285
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: it's like there's so many I think it's probably because

1286
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: that we're in the was that we're in. We know

1287
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: so many people that are just happened to be you know, diverse,

1288
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: like in terms of like they're not just like white

1289
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: straight dudes, but it's it was so fun. You don't

1290
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: go straight dudes though, no, no, no no, But I

1291
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: mean like it's like they occupied such a space for

1292
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: such a long time that it's like it's sometimes makes

1293
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: thrills me. It's exciting people. It's like you see if

1294
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: people that you want on the shop in those roles

1295
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to like the people that you're you know,

1296
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: kind of poking fun at. Yeah, it's important to say

1297
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: that it's not endangering their livelihoods at all. It's it's

1298
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: not endangering their shots. It's like, it's just it's just

1299
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: it's just better balanced, that's all it is. It is

1300
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: not displacing someone else's opportunity. Because because this is the

1301
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: other thing that's being sort of touted around in in

1302
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 1: terms of diversity conversations and entertainment now, is that they're like, well,

1303
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get that staffing job because um they had

1304
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: a diversity higher or something like that. Look at the

1305
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: members now. It hasn't actually changed that much, hasn't changed

1306
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: that much. So you saying I didn't get that job

1307
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: because I wasn't diverse is parenting a line that someone

1308
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: else is someone else fed you because it's better. It's

1309
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: less embarrassing than to say I didn't get it because

1310
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't good enough. And honestly and maybe you and

1311
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are good enough. But it's also like,

1312
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: then keep realizing your talent and what you have to

1313
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: offer for the next thing. That it's also just so

1314
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: stupid to say I didn't get a job for that reason,

1315
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: Like like we're all in this industry. We all don't

1316
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: get jobs all the every day, literally every day, and

1317
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: so it's just like boring, you know, That's what it is.

1318
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: It's a boring thing to say. It's it's just it's

1319
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: like it's not true, it's boring. It's just it's it's stupid. Yeah,

1320
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: And also it's like there's a lot of course correction

1321
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: to be done. So even if it is true, still

1322
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: fuck you, Like like you just you weren't. You weren't

1323
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: the best candidate. That's regardless of what they're like require

1324
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: erman s where you were not the best candidate and

1325
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: that's it. And also ship gets around and also if

1326
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: good luck to you if you're the one saying, well,

1327
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't get it because of this reason, because guess

1328
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: what if you say that to me, I don't. I'm

1329
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: telling other people. I'm like, oh God, like hearing that

1330
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: people say that is just so it is so embarrassing,

1331
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah for them clowning on yourself. Um, I want to

1332
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: talk about what you've learned about boys? Yeah, what if

1333
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: your findings because I keep thinking about this one. Whatever,

1334
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: What are like generalizations you can make about behaviors? I

1335
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: would say, Well, so when you're trying to identify a

1336
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: fun boy, there's definitely red flags. But what the biggest

1337
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: lesson I've learned is that a boy can look like anything. Yes,

1338
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: you really don't know, because there are definitely there's the

1339
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, the way it's packaged by popular culture, which

1340
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: is wearing joggers, they have a big watch, they vape,

1341
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,479
Speaker 1: they d m you, they have red receipts on whatever.

1342
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: But there's like, you know, I went home with a

1343
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: four year old woman in the cubby hole, and you know,

1344
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: she was a fun boy. And the lesson there was

1345
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: if they're wearing a fedora, doesn't matter if they're male

1346
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: or female. You've got to just stay away. So that's

1347
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: one thing. Uh, And then I think what I've learned

1348
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: from talking to them and having very deep conversations is

1349
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: that everyone is um damaged in their own way, and

1350
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: it's it's just who how you choose to like take

1351
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: it out on other people. I would say, is like,

1352
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these guys they want to

1353
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: find love and they want to be happy. But I

1354
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: think so Another way I've been thinking about it is

1355
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: like dating is a two party system, and much like

1356
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: our other two party system, it's broken, and no one

1357
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: on either side of the aisle is having fun, and

1358
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: we really need to like bridge the gap because it's

1359
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: not like the funk boys aren't having fun and the

1360
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: people who are getting hurt by them are not having fun,

1361
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: and dating should be fun. Don't remember when having a

1362
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: crush on someone was fun? Like I the the amount

1363
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: of stress and tension I feel in my bones. I

1364
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: did a show a couple of weeks ago and I

1365
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: had planned with a guy after and I was intense

1366
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: that he was going to cancel. I forgot my my

1367
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: I forgot the second joke. After my opener, I was

1368
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: like so in my head about it, and it was

1369
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: just like, why is it shouldn't be this way? It

1370
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: should not be this way, and it's upsetting to me,

1371
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: And I did. I sent out this survey um to

1372
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, I put on Instagram and Twitter and a

1373
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: bunch of people took it and it was like, you know,

1374
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: I forget if it was like pent of people do

1375
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: not think that the current climate is conducive to finding

1376
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: a good partner in the next one to three years.

1377
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: But fifty three percent of people are optimistic that they

1378
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: will meet the right person in the next one or

1379
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: three years. So the optimism is there, but it's like,

1380
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: if you keep just beating people down, it's it's we're

1381
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna lose that, and that makes me sad. So I think,

1382
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: you know, funk boy culture, it's very amorphous. It's not

1383
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: it's not one thing. And I think, you know, I'm

1384
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: just curious to see. I think things will get worse

1385
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: before they get better, but I want to help things

1386
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: get better. You put out the server yourself. Yeah, that

1387
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: is a genius like way of like just splitting that

1388
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: that that circumstance explain the premise of Dragons as to

1389
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: everyone who might not not sure. So Dragons as it's

1390
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: called Dragons as a fun boy treatment program. And I

1391
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: started the show because I was like really sick of

1392
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: my dating habits, hooking up with funk boys, getting ghosted,

1393
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: getting strewed over. So I started keeping track of the

1394
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: number of days I've been funck boy free on like

1395
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: a whiteboard board in my apartment. I would posted on

1396
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: social media, everyone's like, you know, very encouraging, supportive. So

1397
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: I decided to do a show where I invite other

1398
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: comedians to come on and talk about their um experiences

1399
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: with funk Boys, and I talked about my six step

1400
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: treatment program as a fun Boy addict um and relapse

1401
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: the step number three because it's going to happen. Wow.

1402
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: I built that in. So after the first show was

1403
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: really fun at Union Hall, I moved to Chelsea Music

1404
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: Hall and I did the first fun Boy Redemption with

1405
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: Karl Radkey of Summer House and I basically it's like

1406
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 1: I met with him before. We did like a pre interview,

1407
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: and then I structured like uh an interview with a

1408
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: live interview where we talked about his wrongdoings, why he

1409
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: is that way, and then kind of have him pledged

1410
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: to be better, to take the path of righteousness or whatever.

1411
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: We have Benito Skinner come out dresses Jesus to baptize

1412
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: him with girls tears. So I've been doing that now

1413
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: at every show as the last segment. It's been a

1414
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: lot of fun, but it's also been very eye opening

1415
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: to hear men who are truly self aware and they

1416
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: understand what they're doing is wrong. But like I did

1417
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: this guy. I did a redemption with this guy, and

1418
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 1: he was just a normy he like works in marketing

1419
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: or something. But he told me that he isn't he

1420
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: is in love with someone, but when he became anogamous

1421
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: with her, he his identity is so rooted and having

1422
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: sex with people and pursuing women, he lost his sense

1423
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: of self and had an existential crisis. Oh my god.

1424
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: And it's like for him to even be able to

1425
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: have the awareness like verbalize that to me and then

1426
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: know that he can't overcome that was like I mean,

1427
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: it was just like heartbreaking, but also like it gave

1428
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: me hope in some ways that at least he But

1429
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: the thing that scares me is these guys who have

1430
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,839
Speaker 1: now been doing this for a decade in their mid thirties.

1431
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: Where do you go from here? It's it's really, are

1432
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: you too far deep into that? I don't know? I mean.

1433
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: He actually messaged me a couple of months later and said,

1434
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted you to know I ended things with

1435
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: two women before sleeping with them because I knew there

1436
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: was no future, which like that to me, If I

1437
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: can help two women with my show, I feel my

1438
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: job is done here. Uh, and it's it's really interesting

1439
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: to watch the audience of the show changed from like

1440
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: women to like women and gay men and then now

1441
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: they're straight guys kind of feeling like they have a

1442
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: point of entry, which is good. And a lot of

1443
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: straight guys I think, are very scared about the idea

1444
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: of it. Like my roommate's friend invited his other straight

1445
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: friends and the text responses were like, I don't want

1446
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: to go, Like, I'm sure there's a lot of bad dudes,

1447
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be lumped in just because

1448
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm a straight white guy. And another guy was like,

1449
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to get me too, Like they just

1450
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: some people are not ready to face it yet. But

1451
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: the ones that are, we invite you in, and I

1452
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: think we'll all be better as results. That is kind

1453
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: of my whole thing, all of us, honestly. And so

1454
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: the women also have a space they're like to like,

1455
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: do they is there a confrontation? So the one redemption

1456
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: I well, so it's it's a lineup of other comedians

1457
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: that kind of like go off about either one boy

1458
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: or they do stand up about fun boys or whatever

1459
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: it is. This show was nice because in the survey,

1460
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: I asked for a wild dating story, so I was

1461
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: able to review some of those which were blue again bluem.

1462
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: I keep saying it blew my mind. My mind gets

1463
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: blown on a daily basis since I started doing comedy truly,

1464
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: and it was so I think it's very healing just

1465
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: to know that other people like go through this. And

1466
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: I will say, at the last show, this guy who

1467
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: ghosted me, his girlfriend was in the front row, which

1468
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know if she knows that that happened,

1469
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: but it was very like she's been They've come to

1470
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: the exhibition a few times because he knows Michael Caine

1471
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm saying too much. I hope. I hope

1472
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: she does listen, but I also hope she she doesn't

1473
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: hear this, but I don't want her to know that,

1474
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, he goes to me, whatever, But it was

1475
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: just kind of crazy to see that, like full circle,

1476
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: this guy who goes to me two years ago after

1477
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: we had sex, and now his girlfriends in the front

1478
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: row at my show, Like that's what I want to happen.

1479
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: But it's just kind of crazy to see. It's crazy

1480
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: when you um date someone and have certain experiences with them,

1481
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: and then you see them with someone else. It's like,

1482
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: of course, of course that thing is that thing inside you,

1483
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: of like I'm a little salty towards that person for

1484
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: really no reason when you examine it. But also it's like,

1485
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're dealing with the same stuff, if

1486
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: I just wasn't it, or if I just wasn't it,

1487
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: or if they're just better at dealing with certain things

1488
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: that I am, or maybe they're just it's just it's

1489
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: very weird to see someone that you had sex with

1490
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: or um dated or we're serious with or not very

1491
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: just deal or really make it work with someone else.

1492
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: That's fact. And that is the premise of the song

1493
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: cool by Gwin. Stay I'm not a classic speaking of

1494
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: female icons, And now, how do we feel before we

1495
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: go into I don't think so, honey, How do we

1496
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: feel about Gwen right now? I think she's in like

1497
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: a weird I think she's in developmental hell, she's in

1498
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: development hell. Right now, they're figuring it out, they're trying

1499
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: to get the reboot done. They're trying to get it

1500
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: and you know the thing is, they do have the money.

1501
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 1: The money is not the issue, but but they're creatively

1502
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: trying to figure out when's the Fannie fifty years old

1503
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: looking amazing, But what's she doing? I don't know, we

1504
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: don't know. It's not for me to say, you know

1505
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: who just turned fifty two? Who look Jayla believable, Jennifer Lopez.

1506
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, Julia Roberts, Julia Roberts. It's like

1507
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: for me, like one of the speaking of one of

1508
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: the all time grades that mouth that width on that

1509
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: mounth And I just want to say publicly on the record,

1510
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: I support Gwyneth Paltrow. Just want to say that I

1511
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: think she's amazing. I think that you what you can

1512
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: never forget about Gwyneth Paltrow is that she's incredibly talented

1513
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: and you'll you'll see that in The Politician too as well.

1514
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: She can turn some scenes in that um and she

1515
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: works with the wigs that she has given and she

1516
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: does the best that she can. Absolutely, and that's what's

1517
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: in her head and in her eyes as well matters.

1518
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: And also tb H. That is an oscar that is

1519
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: well deserved. And a lot of people say a lot

1520
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: of people say that Cape Lynch one for playing Queen Elizabeth,

1521
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: but she's got to at the time. I'm sorry, but

1522
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: Gwyneth was Gwyneth and that last scene where they say

1523
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: good bye to each other is truly romance movie cannon.

1524
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: So thank you, Harvey Weinstein. Oh that's really the thesis

1525
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, Jesus, okay, and we've never more actually

1526
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: moved into I don't think so get out of here. Um. So, basically,

1527
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 1: if you don't know anything about this show, lost Culturalists

1528
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: or it's segment, I don't think so Honey. I don't

1529
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: think so Honey is a segment. We take one minute

1530
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: to absolutely go off on something in culture that is

1531
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: plugging us, bothering us, biting our asses, nipping us in

1532
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: the heels, and we don't like it, and we need

1533
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: to be dressed down publicly. Um. I do have something great,

1534
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: I do have something Okay, UM, this is Matt Rodgers.

1535
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I

1536
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. The Scooby Doo movie that they're making. Um,

1537
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: and as Gina Rodriguez as Velma, which I do not stand.

1538
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: I can't find my glasses. Oh my god, I don't

1539
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: I do think so honey. What you just said. I

1540
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, Scooby Do the movie and has

1541
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: Zac Efron animated as the hot One, which like very

1542
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: first thought, y'all, Um, I don't think we necessarily need

1543
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo the movie. I feel like, let's get I

1544
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: Love Lucy back on screen before we have Scooby Doo

1545
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: the movie. Also, they did a Scooby Doo reboot with

1546
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller and Freddie Prince Jr. Which is can't

1547
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: be erased. We have to see them is the iconic

1548
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: velment of our time. If it's not going to be

1549
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: an animated element, it should be like, I don't think

1550
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: so honey otherwise. Also, I never forget Alicia suffer son

1551
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: in a small role. Also I don't think so honey.

1552
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: Um Scooby Doo. Will Forty is playing Shaggy, which I

1553
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: kind of like. Um, I like Scooby Doo as a cartoon.

1554
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, this new movie and that's

1555
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 1: one minute, Thank you so much. That's absolutely crap. I

1556
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: just don't think Sony who's playing Um who's playing Daphne again? Um,

1557
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: Daphne is God but truly Sara Miche SMG And Freddy Prince.

1558
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: I went finding out what are the hottest couples for

1559
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: all time? And yeah, I mean they were they they

1560
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: nailed it the first My god, I I just googled

1561
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo moving and it said Scooby Doo in film.

1562
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 1: Um wait, let me. I wanted to is the movie

1563
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: called Scoob or something called Scoob, which I wrote like

1564
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: where did they focus group that? Okay? So also I

1565
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: know I know that Daphne was announced. She was Yeah,

1566
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: now this movie is like wait, why am I blinking

1567
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: on who Daphnie is? We have to get to the

1568
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: bottom of this. But also while you're searching for this,

1569
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: I was just I was bring us up earlier. They

1570
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 1: should do some luceal Ball biopic. Did they do that

1571
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: or no? And you know, should play her? I know

1572
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: who should now I forget who it is. But I've

1573
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: always had a right who should play her. I don't

1574
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: remember now who I've always been thinking you should play her.

1575
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: But I feel like they announced one and then it

1576
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: never happened, maybe like Cate Blanchett was supposed to play who.

1577
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: I think that was a dream I had. I don't

1578
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: actually know, but oh my god, Sophie Turner, Sophie Turner

1579
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: as Lucille Ball in Lucille. The thing is, I don't

1580
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: mean to laugh because I do like and the thing

1581
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: is she is kind of funny. I do think she's

1582
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: sometimes in interviews I'm kind of down for her, and

1583
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: she who and I went to go see Dark Fetings

1584
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: for like this is gonna suck, and she kind of

1585
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: sold it and made it work. I mean, I was

1586
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 1: in a great movie. We were entertained. I watched someone

1587
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: watch it on a plane and I was like, this

1588
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: movie looks I've gotten that. I did that with the

1589
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Shirlease Sarren Seth broken movie. I watch someone watch it. Oh,

1590
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 1: so I actually like the movie and I liked it

1591
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: a lot and turned to my left and everyone I

1592
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: was with fucking hated it because does come on his

1593
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: own face. You see that in the film that he

1594
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: comes on his own face, which is like but but like,

1595
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a plot device. It's a plot. It's

1596
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: it's a pregnant he like he is recorded like like

1597
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: he like he like records himself jerking off and then

1598
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: like that's black. That becomes like a big point of

1599
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: black on the Secretary of State and she's running for

1600
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: president and um so. So they start dating and everyone's like,

1601
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: she's dating this like kind of gross guy. No, no, no,

1602
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: they don't know that, though they do find that out.

1603
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: And then he's like a gawker like journalist. Yeah, and

1604
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: so like he gets the video of him coming on

1605
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: his own face, like is going to get released in

1606
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: the like fine, release it whatever, and then she bravely

1607
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: is like, I'm dating him anyway. And then she becomes

1608
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: president and he becomes the first gentleman and despite coming

1609
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: on his face publicly. And I liked the movie. I

1610
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: thought it was very broad and she was great and

1611
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: he was. I love Charlie's. We love Charlie's. Um okay,

1612
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: here we go. This is your I don't think so, honey.

1613
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something about his time it

1614
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Places it should

1615
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: sell stew. It should be more places that sell beef

1616
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: stew because it's my favorite food in the world, especially

1617
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: especially I want stew every day. I want chuck roast

1618
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: stew down, nice velvety texture. I want carrots, peas, salary potatoes, bitch,

1619
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: leave the skin on, skin off. I don't. I want

1620
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: a soup with a tomato and red wine basse. And

1621
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: you can't tell me nothing. You gotta sell at the

1622
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: only place I know that sells Stu beast to in

1623
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: New York City year round is the essen On Barrick

1624
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,839
Speaker 1: And I want to say spring yes, thank you, Marybath.

1625
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: We worked around around that area absolutely, Um and bitch,

1626
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 1: if you are not brave enough to sell stew at

1627
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: a restaurant, then you have five seconds. You are cowards,

1628
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: and I will call Michelin myself and have them take

1629
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: away your damn star. And that's one minute that was

1630
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: iconically view because you there's no one who will ship out.

1631
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: That's too faster more and it was more of a

1632
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: liquid consistency. Hal you're willing to die on more stew.

1633
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: We might be running out of things to say because

1634
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, people should sell more stew?

1635
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: Is that on this day? Honey. That's culture. That's cactially culture.

1636
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: It's filed under culture. It's a culture. We got a

1637
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a we got a little bit of

1638
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: a preview of Mary Betts. I don't think so, honey,

1639
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be a iconic,

1640
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: b controversial. I just want to say, um, that Syria

1641
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: just picked up me saying, because you there's no one

1642
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: who is shipped out, that's the war and it was

1643
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: more of a liquid consistency. And Syria has responded. I

1644
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: don't know how to respond to that. Stupid and foolish

1645
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: A right, Okay, um, this is gonna be this is

1646
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna be controversial, controversial. We have a little bit of

1647
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: a controversial I don't think so honey happening. But I

1648
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: think we are all gonna be on board by the end.

1649
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: I really, this isn't Mary Beth Browns. I don't think

1650
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: so honey. Our time starts now. I don't think so honey.

1651
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: RuPaul's Drag Race, I beloved franchise, a cinematic universe for

1652
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: the ages. Take a break, honey, the oddly as America's

1653
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: next Jack superstar. I don't think so honey. To winners

1654
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: for RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars, I don't think so honey.

1655
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: This is not t ball, this is not Little League. Okay,

1656
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: we don't get participation trophies. You're having these girls on

1657
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: these Instagram drag queens who've never performed a day in

1658
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: their lives, never read a day in their lives. I

1659
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: come for the reading challenge. Okay, is open? I want

1660
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: t I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it from

1661
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: these girls. You want to go to the UK and

1662
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: start the show there. How about we fix what's wrong

1663
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: at home before we date other countries? What are we

1664
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: the US government? Honey? Come about we get a few

1665
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: good seasons in before you hand things over to Toddrick Hall.

1666
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: I think so, honey, I'm really intovoking right now. I

1667
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: love When did that couplam earlier? I don't think so many.

1668
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's find the plot. I think we've lost the

1669
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: plot five seconds. I don't think so, honey, rupaulse jag Race.

1670
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: I love you so much. You're an icon. We stand forever,

1671
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: but you need to get it together. That's one minute true.

1672
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I think we can work. Going to have a lot

1673
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: of really good queens on season twelve, and if the

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Speaker 1: rumors are true about All Stars five, that will be

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Speaker 1: outstanding as well, because there's some really good queens that

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Speaker 1: will be returning your kidding, Oh my god, where's that

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01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: Juju be? And that will be the children I'm forgotten?

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01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: Then we'll be taught moment because Juju is one of

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: the one of the time, made the reading challenge good

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01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: first reading challenge, and she was. She was the best

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Speaker 1: one in the reason why it's it's a mainstad best

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: damn reader, best damn lip sinker always looks fish, always

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01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: looks fish, and then her her and Raymond Lip thinking

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01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: dancing on my own iconic and tears holding each other.

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01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: Never forget black velvet, black velvet, velvet, if you please,

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01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: if you please. It's approximately the thousandth rule number fourteen

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Speaker 1: of culture. Um. Yeah, but I heard Jujuby, I heard

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Speaker 1: um say these are rumors. I heard. I heard ms

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Speaker 1: Cracker and I am ms Crack for miss Cracker. Look

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Speaker 1: out from miss Cracker when she's not like up in

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: her head, you know what I mean? Like because that

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01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: that was like a disappointing narrative of that season was

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: miss Crackers in her head, Miss Crackers in her head.

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 1: And I think what happens when you say to someone

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01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: who might be a little in their head, you're in

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: your head. That is a recipe for disaster in her saboteur.

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01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: I talked about this with straight people all the time.

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Straight guy, they don't know about it, and it's so important. No,

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: the in you have to be so thankful to Route

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 1: to for giving these things a name. You know what

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the inter saboteur um, if you can't love yourself.

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Also behind the curtain, you're born naked and the rest

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01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: of change my change, my comedy. Yes, yes, yes, changed

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: my life behind the curtain. Never forgot it. Yeah. The

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01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz being what it is applicable to anything. No,

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01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know what happened is um.

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are critical of Rue

1708
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: now and for valid reasons. If if you're critical of Rue,

1709
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: this is not a read on you. I'm just saying

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01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: you also have to understand and respect this is the

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01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: most important people in the culture who has seen it all,

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: has seen everything. Yeah, and anything you say about him,

1713
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: like you know he's not thought of before? You know

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01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: what he hasn't thought of before? Like it's it's like

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01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: that thing of like when people come for celebrities like

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: they're stupid. It's like, these people aren't stupid. RuPaul is

1717
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: actually a genius and an innovator and truly a pioneer

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: of television. And there's so many things that we have

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: now are are do and indebted to Rue saying true

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01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 1: and also think about just think about the fact that

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01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: he thought of lip sync for your Life. I mean

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01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: for a final challenge in a drag queen competition. Lip

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01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: Sync for your Life is fucking genius and dispense. Also,

1724
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: the writing on that show when they're doing the runway

1725
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 1: is some of the funniest writing on TV because you

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01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: don't really have laugh out loud writing on TV. I'll

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01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: just on any show, you know what I mean that

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01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: the quips that they come out with, and I don't

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01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: care if they tape it after do pick up My

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01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: God is some of the funniest ship you'll hear on TV.

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: And you watch a bar God, bless you, your earbeds

1732
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: are going to fucking row. There's nothing like it. There's nothing.

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01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 1: And I would say for everyone out there, that's that's everyone.

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: Um try to avoid the spoilers because the spoilers are

1735
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: so rampant on YouTube, been on Reddit obviously. Just avoid

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01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: the spoilers because we just spoiled All Stars five. Well, no,

1737
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: we're not spoiling. And I said rumors several times, so

1738
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: people want to come from you substantiated unsubstantiated rumors. But

1739
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: I would say try to avoid um the elimination, spoilers

1740
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: like all that stuff, like because I mean, the moment

1741
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 1: of watching Sasha Va Lord do that wait when Bendela

1742
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: Creme sent herself home, that that I think about daily

1743
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: every I'm going home every day. I think about it

1744
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: every day. That's like I mean, And here's the thing,

1745
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Benda la Creme. When when when you heard that she

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01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: was going to be on All Stars, I was kind

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01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, that that makes sense. And then when

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01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: she came back and was so you know what I

1749
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: thought about Bendela Creme. I thought, well, Benda la Creme

1750
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: was already polished and amazing. That wasn't ever a problem.

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01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: So how will it elevate? Elevate? And it was elevated,

1752
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: elevated and it's smart. She was the best, Like her

1753
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: stats are the strongest, stronger than lask Its stronger than

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01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: any other queen on that show. And then for her

1755
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: to say I'm taking myself out. What she did in

1756
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: that moment was she did win the show because she

1757
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: made herself iconic. She was just ONREW, she was just

1758
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: on Hay Queen and she talks with with Johnny and

1759
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: she she talks about that moment. Truly, she's like she's

1760
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: so articulate and like and thoughtful about like the process

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01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: of coming to that decision. And I think I believe

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: at this point that it was not produced, that she

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01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: really did. I absolutely do not think it, and I

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01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: choose to believe that. And I think it's okay to

1765
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: choose to believe thinks like that. Sometimes it's okay. That's

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01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: my choice is to believe that. I do not believe

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01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: that it was produced. I think I think she she

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01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: did that on her own, because you can kind of

1769
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: see in the reactions of everyone, like you can kind

1770
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: of tell when when the judges are actually caught off

1771
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: guard by something. And I really do believe that ruin

1772
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: that moment was kind of processing how to produce herself,

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01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, and that's why she

1774
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: didn't give a strong reaction in that moment, because she

1775
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how to take this, and

1776
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: I love it, and that's good TV. It's and it's

1777
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: the most one of the most drag things that has

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01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: happened on the show for her to say, this is

1779
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: the expectation. I'm going to subvert the expectation completely. Queer drag.

1780
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: We love and we stand Ben took Crome. We stand

1781
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: Ben to look Arome, We stand Mary Beth Barron. Yes,

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01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: oh my god, what a good episode. Is an incredible episode,

1783
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: I'd have to Emma h Yes, confirmed, Thank god you

1784
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: have to come back. This has been one of the

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01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: highlights of my life. My career is I'm not kidding you.

1786
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Sitting between you two and just get gabbin funny. I

1787
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: can do it. We love it. If you ever get

1788
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity the privilege of being on this show, congratulations

1789
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 1: to you. This has just been nuts start to finish

1790
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: a joy. We had so much fun. And you gotta

1791
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: go see drag his ass And what are you going

1792
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: to come out and do it in l A probably

1793
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: in January, hopefully a dynasty again and we'll make We'll

1794
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 1: get it popping, great, amazing. I I'm there. And also, um, Houston,

1795
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Houston Comedy Hub four. You gotta go uh and we

1796
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: we give blow kisses to everyone in Houston that came

1797
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: to that. I don't think so, honey, with Bowen and Katherine.

1798
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I wasn't there. Um. We do end every

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01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: episode with a song RuPaul's drag Race, Your Ender's Dragon Race.

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01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:35,799
Speaker 1: The best woman. This has been a Forever Dog production

1801
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:40,479
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01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,360
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