WEBVTT - The Great Resignación

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Honey German. My parents are Dominican. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a body positive advocate. I'm Carolina Bermudez, but i

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<v Speaker 1>was born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,

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<v Speaker 1>and a worker being. This is life. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that one video where she says, don't do a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. What about that video? Don't do a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>don't quit that job, don't be messy, don't get crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>O Carolina. She's not talking to me directly, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you, you know, our listeners. If you're having

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<v Speaker 1>this thought right now, you can quit your job. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is a good way to go about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to talk about the Great Resignation because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like everybody is at this stage in their life

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<v Speaker 1>where they are reevaluating what's important to them, what they

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<v Speaker 1>really want to do. I think the pandemic hit some

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<v Speaker 1>of us harder than others. It really made us give

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<v Speaker 1>some thought to whether or not you're really wasting your

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<v Speaker 1>life at a company that doesn't value you. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people who might be facing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. There were many people who decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to school because they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this job is not for me. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>could do more. I feel like I could expand, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Great Resignation has a lot of people talking.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one statistic that I thought that was really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting was that it's being led by Latinas. That's a fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I read the same article and I found

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<v Speaker 1>it incredible that it's like, we're like, we're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>this anymore. And this has a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, with COVID, with being locked down, and us

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<v Speaker 1>restructuring and reshifting our I guess our thoughts on what

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<v Speaker 1>is important, and it turns out that for Latinas, the

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<v Speaker 1>job is not at the top of the list. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that culturally, we've always been the type of

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<v Speaker 1>people to really put family first, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>given the situation where we were all kind of stuck

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<v Speaker 1>at home, it made us realize, or it made certain

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<v Speaker 1>people realize that they were spending more time commuting than

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<v Speaker 1>they were actually speaking to their loved ones, or that

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<v Speaker 1>they were spending more time in the office than they

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<v Speaker 1>were with their family or their friends. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Great resignation right now has a lot of people thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't want to just walk in and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I quit this bitch, I'm out, and be like in

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<v Speaker 1>a blaze of glory. I have a co host that

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<v Speaker 1>I work with. His name is Greg t. He always

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<v Speaker 1>said that if he was going to quit a job,

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<v Speaker 1>he would go and poop on his boss's desk. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, that's not a good idea, That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way you want to be remembered. But there is a

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<v Speaker 1>great hell no. I mean, I think his reputation precedes him.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows who he is. But for people like you

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<v Speaker 1>and I who want to maintain great relationships, who really

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<v Speaker 1>rely on those references, you want to go about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a different kind of way. You do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to shout out everybody who's out here that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's feeding, that's feeling, you know, burnt out, overworked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe your values are no longer the same

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<v Speaker 1>values as your job, or even just a toxic environment.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been hanging on and you haven't walked into

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<v Speaker 1>someone's office or haven't emailed them just one line, I quit.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you props because I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that struggled with this every single day, and they

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<v Speaker 1>tell me like, I love my life, but my job

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<v Speaker 1>is making me hate my life. Well, that's no way

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<v Speaker 1>to live, though, And I know that we all need

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<v Speaker 1>a job to survive, we all need food, shelter, etcetera,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the all of the things, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a quality of life, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is something that we need to examine. The issue for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is that there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who have looked at their requirements for their job and

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<v Speaker 1>they're seeing that a lot of companies they downsized during

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, So now you're not just doing one position,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're taking on to three four positions because they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to streamline the company, and you're the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>paying for it, not the person at the top. The

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<v Speaker 1>person at the top never sees that they never have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with taking on more or biting off more

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<v Speaker 1>than they can chew. And yes, a CEO has his

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<v Speaker 1>or her own issues and problems, and I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the everyday working American woman, which I believe

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<v Speaker 1>we're speaking to a lot of women, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of men that listen to this podcast too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there comes a point in time where

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<v Speaker 1>you really stand back and you look at what you're contributing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, is this how I'm going to go out? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this? Is this what the American dream is really about?

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<v Speaker 1>Because for a lot of people at this point, it

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<v Speaker 1>really isn't. It's not you know, it's just spending time

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<v Speaker 1>with your family, not being Like for me, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>I would be now I work remote, but before I

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<v Speaker 1>would spend three hours on trains. That's three hours on trains.

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<v Speaker 1>Now i'd be I'm reevaluating. I'm like, Wow, do I

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to do that to myself? Ever? Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know my husband half the time. I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't. And I've spoken to my friends

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<v Speaker 1>who have started to go back into the city to

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<v Speaker 1>three times a week, and they say, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how I maintained this before. I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>juggled so many things and I didn't realize everything that

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<v Speaker 1>I was missing at home. There are so many different

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<v Speaker 1>angles and way used to look at it. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, my quality of life, where I think it

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<v Speaker 1>really matters is family and sleep. I used to have

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up at three thirty forty five in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning to go into the city, and I was basically trying,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say I was I was thinking, Okay, I got

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half commute, give or take,

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<v Speaker 1>because you never know what traffic, construction, an accident, things

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature, and you've got to be live in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio. So for me, just taking that extra hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half that I used to devote to being

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<v Speaker 1>on the road and white knuckling it and stressing out

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know when that accident was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get cleared. I don't need to have that anxiety in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But on the flip side, I love my job,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's where you have to look at the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>picture and decide what direction you really want to take.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Great Resignation saw a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 1>super frustrated and feeling uncertain and just throwing their hands

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air and saying, I'd rather quit than

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<v Speaker 1>continue doing this. And you know what, good for them,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it takes a lot to make that decision,

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<v Speaker 1>especially people that have been with accompanied me for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. And I feel like, you know, this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we should make it about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that person that wants to quit and just doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to quit, Maybe we can give them some steps

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<v Speaker 1>on how to quit properly. I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds right, but how to make your exit out

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<v Speaker 1>of your company, I guess a good exit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great suggestion because I think that there are

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<v Speaker 1>steps that you can take where maybe you you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the time for you to move on, but

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<v Speaker 1>you just haven't spoken or advocated for yourself. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>need to have that conversation with your manager and hint

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<v Speaker 1>to them that you are thinking of leaving, and see

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<v Speaker 1>what their vision is for you and the company. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe before you even start thinking of leaving, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a sit down and you write down all of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you bring to the company. I am very friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>I have great client relations, blah blah blah. Write down

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<v Speaker 1>all of the qualities that make you a superstar and

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<v Speaker 1>make you an asset to the company. Schedule a time

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<v Speaker 1>with your manager and sit down and really try to

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<v Speaker 1>dive in and say, these are the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>see that I'm contributing to the company. Where do you

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<v Speaker 1>see me heading in the next five to ten years

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<v Speaker 1>or is there no plan? And then I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you decide whether or not it's time to move on,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there are so many conversations that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have and then you look back and your man,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have just stood up for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>or I wish I would have said something. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that that for me would be the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great place to start, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people Carolina, they just feel like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unappreciate it. No matter what I say, nothing is

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<v Speaker 1>going to change. My boss doesn't appreciate my work. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just quitting. You know, a lot of people did just

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<v Speaker 1>get in their feelings and you know what's that saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make permanent decisions on temporary emotions. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a yeah, And I feel like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that go in and just be like I quit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just temporary emotions. So it's like, have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with your boss. No matter how scary the conversation may seem,

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<v Speaker 1>they might see your side of things or they might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, wow, I was just thinking about this new

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<v Speaker 1>role for you, or you know what you're up for? Review.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about a great race. It might not

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<v Speaker 1>go that way, but it might, so it doesn't hurt

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<v Speaker 1>to try. Well. The other thing too, that I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of ever forever married to the financial planner is

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<v Speaker 1>do you have enough money tucked away so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can make a decision like that and you could actually

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<v Speaker 1>take them or two or three to find that next

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<v Speaker 1>position that's the right one for you. You may not

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<v Speaker 1>find something in three months, you may not find something

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<v Speaker 1>in in in six or even a year, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is just so uncertain right now. So I would highly

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<v Speaker 1>highly suggest maybe looking at finances, seeing if this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. Where can you look at look at

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<v Speaker 1>your lifestyle. Maybe there are things that you can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do away with. Maybe your entertainment budget won't be as big,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you won't be going to specialized classes at

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<v Speaker 1>certain gyms. You know, you have to really look at

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to do to set yourself up so

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not a failure, so that you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go and ask people for a loan or for

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<v Speaker 1>help because you made such a rash decision. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>better not quit this job if you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice stash of money in the bank, or better yet,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have something else lined up, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, online interviewing, you can interview at any time

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<v Speaker 1>from any place. It's not like before we have to

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<v Speaker 1>put on a suit and show up with a printed

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<v Speaker 1>resume in front of an office and wait one hour

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<v Speaker 1>and your boss would be like, oh, that's a long lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't got to do that anymore. You can set

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<v Speaker 1>up you can hook up with a recruiter online, do

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<v Speaker 1>all your interviewing before you even walk into your into

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<v Speaker 1>your boss's office and say I quit. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>because you're so right. I would. I remember there were

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<v Speaker 1>people who were I was friends with that would say

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<v Speaker 1>to me, oh, I have to go on this job interview,

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<v Speaker 1>say that you're meeting with me so that they know

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<v Speaker 1>that it ran long, and and I just say to them, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a meeting and I have to cover for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said okay. I mean they never got that

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<v Speaker 1>serious where anybody would ever ask me. But still you

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<v Speaker 1>have to create these or fabricate these different stories just

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there and just to promote yourself or

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<v Speaker 1>just to be able to get in front of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's a zoom. Now it's a team's meeting, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're straight. One thing. My friend she works for HR

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells me all the time, like I advised

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<v Speaker 1>people to follow recruiters for different companies. Pinpoint a company

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<v Speaker 1>you want to work for it. Let's say you want

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<v Speaker 1>to work for Google. Find the recruiter I Google follow them,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just connections on LinkedIn. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways you know that you can go about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the first thing you gotta do is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make the decision when you want to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I think that's a good starting point. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like really having that conversation with yourself and saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. You look yourself in the mirror that

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<v Speaker 1>one day and you're getting out of the shower and

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<v Speaker 1>you just know you just have that. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>quit a job, honey? I have yet. But I've never

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<v Speaker 1>quit a job without not having another job. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>just gone home like and hope for the best. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always done the whole, you know, from one job to another.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working since I was fifteen Carolina with practically

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<v Speaker 1>no time off. I'm trying to think if I ever

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<v Speaker 1>quit a job. I mean waitressing jobs, yes, but that

0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really in my career. But no, nothing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that i've ever really quit when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>TV or radio or you know. So, I actually I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if I'm the best person to be given

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<v Speaker 1>this advice right now. I'm just realizing that I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been in this. I always tell people canna get mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me. So I would always prepare like a two

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<v Speaker 1>week letter of a two weeks notice or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then whenever the big boss wasn't around, I would like

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<v Speaker 1>put it on their desk with their name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was never like that ballsy person that would

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<v Speaker 1>go in and be like I quit. I never had

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<v Speaker 1>like a negative quitting experience, but definitely two weeks noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that would get planted right on their desk, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they would read it privately if you like, this

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<v Speaker 1>little bitch is leaving right, so then you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to see their face or their disappointment. See, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I would always feel so guilty. But even though you

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<v Speaker 1>do realize that these companies you're just a number, at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, they're just gonna put your job posting up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna wait for people to respond, and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get filled unless unless you say to them you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>quit and they come to you with the counter offer. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm talking about. You need to be prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be ready to go with all your facts,

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<v Speaker 1>like like just a machine gun. That's it, given them

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<v Speaker 1>all the facts about you, telling them about all the

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful things that you do. Because if they present you

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<v Speaker 1>with a counter offer, that means that you're valuable, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means that you need to use that point to

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<v Speaker 1>get that leverage, and the leverage that you make there

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<v Speaker 1>is going to set you up for that next promotion.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I say, you really got to sit

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<v Speaker 1>back and think about all of the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to your job while you're there, so that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're ever in this position, you're you're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I will say, if if this job is

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<v Speaker 1>not good for your mental and it is a toxic environment,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what they say, please you can find a

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<v Speaker 1>better situation and a better environment where it will not

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<v Speaker 1>affect your mental health. Because I do know people that

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<v Speaker 1>are like, my job is making me sick. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>the stress is killing me. The anxiety is killing me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what kind of counter offer these people

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<v Speaker 1>come with. If it is not good for your soul

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<v Speaker 1>and it is not good for your mental please walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to the counter offer, they can come with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great things, Carolina. If you love it

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<v Speaker 1>there and the problem is to pay, they might come

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<v Speaker 1>with a counter offer. Have a solid number. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how much I'm worth if you want me to day,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how much you're gonna have to pay me.

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<v Speaker 1>So money could be a counter offer. I want the

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<v Speaker 1>private jet, I want Harah makeup, I want a wardrobe,

0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I want a stylist. I want it at all. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding. And actually, you know what I did. Just

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<v Speaker 1>think I did quit a job, and I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's like one of the most important jobs of

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<v Speaker 1>my career. I mean, it's not that I quit. I

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<v Speaker 1>Elvi stir in And when I decided to walk away, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they were starting a TV show and they needed anchors.

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<v Speaker 1>And the agent that I had at the time knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to work in television and I had

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<v Speaker 1>been auditioning for the few and all this other stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and this opportunity came up and he said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>look for a woman to begin her TV career in

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<v Speaker 1>the number one market anchoring a morning show. It like

0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:47.800
<v Speaker 1>basically never happens. So it's a local opportunity. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't national, which is something that I wanted. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where you could really get your start. But

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<v Speaker 1>they need an answer, and they need you to decide

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<v Speaker 1>and they want you to sign. And so there was

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure, and so that's where you know what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to look at everything that I was contributing

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<v Speaker 1>to the radio show. I had to look at my

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<v Speaker 1>quality of life, the things that I wanted, not now,

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<v Speaker 1>but ten years from now at that point, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a family and all of the things that I needed.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when I made the really really tough

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<v Speaker 1>decision to walk away from the show. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>confide in my mentor and in my boss at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I said, I never wanted him to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. This industry is so small, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to our next point. Yeah, it's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have this on the brain and you when you

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<v Speaker 1>make that choice, or when you make that decision, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave in good graces. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave with them saying like oh she's x y Z,

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<v Speaker 1>or she let her job go just because she knew

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<v Speaker 1>she was walking out the door. You definitely want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave with a good reputation. That's a fact, especially what

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<v Speaker 1>you just mentioned. You know, don't let your job go

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<v Speaker 1>just because in your heart you've decided you no longer

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<v Speaker 1>want to be here. Don't just stop working. Don't don't

0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.600
<v Speaker 1>do that to your team. Don't do that to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to your reputation. Don't do that to your reference. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you spent five years at a company, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Say, do not call this company when you're

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<v Speaker 1>here job searching, so you don't do it right, And

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're in front of the boss or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you're quitting with. You know, just know

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<v Speaker 1>what to say when you're gonna quit. Well. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that there are great things to say, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also think that there are things that you shouldn't say, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the time for you to vent your frustrations

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, Louis in the mail room or you

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<v Speaker 1>know g G that brings fish in on Wednesdays. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not your time to just like start rambling off

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<v Speaker 1>about all of the things that you hate about the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's very productive to let your boss

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<v Speaker 1>know maybe the places that they can improve, because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave it better than you found it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, maybe that's your opportunity to say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I'm leaving is because I was never

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<v Speaker 1>expected to do accounting. And HR don't not making this up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously, um, but that's where you spell it

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<v Speaker 1>out for them and say, perhaps the next person that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming in here, you might want them to have this

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<v Speaker 1>skill set or I found that this was really challenging,

0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>or the hours just aren't working for me and my

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<v Speaker 1>family anymore, you know, just give them some solid reasons

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<v Speaker 1>so that they may be able to build off of

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<v Speaker 1>that for the next person. Because you're leaving, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it's not gonna affect you in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like you should. It's if you

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<v Speaker 1>have like a big boss, let's say that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really in tune with your position of what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that you should let them know. If

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<v Speaker 1>their company is going through some struggles and the struggles

0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 1>pushed you out, I think you should make no and

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I understand, you know, my direct supervisor,

0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't really know what's going on, let's say in

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<v Speaker 1>my department. But these are all the reasons that I'm leaving,

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And these are also all the areas where you can

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<v Speaker 1>improve so that other people like me don't up and

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<v Speaker 1>quit on you. So it's like, it depends really how

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable you are with them and how much you really care.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would definitely mention the reasons I quit so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can fix it absolutely. And you know, you

0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be really constructive in your criticism, and that's

0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.200
<v Speaker 1>where we're saying, give them key points where they could

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<v Speaker 1>actually do something to improve the work environment for that

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:20.480
<v Speaker 1>next person. I definitely think bad mouthing people before you

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<v Speaker 1>walk out is not the move. It's just gonna make

0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you look slimy. It's just gonna make you look bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So reserve your thoughts to m f M up and

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<v Speaker 1>down when you're with your girlfriends and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you do it when you're with your family

0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>or with your friends or people that you actually trust.

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's not exactly exactly. Then you can give all

0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the chiefsment to all of your friends. But at the workplace. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I was going to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>this actually does relate to it. You may think, you

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<v Speaker 1>may think that you can confide in people at work,

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<v Speaker 1>but the minute you leave, they will tell your mess.

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<v Speaker 1>So just stay quiet, stay consistent with your story, and

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<v Speaker 1>leave it at that, and don't tell nobody talking about

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give notice. I'm gonna give notice because in

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes gets who's gonna know? Your boss is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna give notice. People cannot hold that in.

0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You know how many places I've worked in that everyone say, oh,

0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>such and such is gonna quit. Oh such, that's given

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.920
<v Speaker 1>us two weeks for such such up getting thirty days.

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<v Speaker 1>That spreads like wildfire in the office. So hold that

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<v Speaker 1>right in your gut. Tell your sister, tell your friend,

0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.199
<v Speaker 1>tell your husband. These motherfucker's don't know I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>quit on Friday. Not your co Yeah yeah, because then

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like be thicking honey, Yes, yeah, look at that work,

0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's but that's how it goes down.

0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I start talking to somebody, then that person knows somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that person knows an assistant, and the assistance

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they know it all by the way, So don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that the assistance don't know what's going on. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that that I wanted to bring up as

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<v Speaker 1>well is you gotta make it official, and that's the

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>hard part. I feel like that's where you were a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit scared before, where you would write the letter

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and you'd like slide it under the door. Always, always,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Carolina. Now, at this point in my career,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely would set up a face to face meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the big boss, or even if it's just a

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 1>live phone call if I can't go in person. But

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 1>this time around, I would definitely show face. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm mature enough and I understand that they value

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<v Speaker 1>everything I gave the company and they cannot be mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me. If I need to seek better opportunities for myself,

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I'm too emotional always. I cry

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>when I'm mad, I cry when I'm happy, I cry

0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.159
<v Speaker 1>when I'm sad. Obviously, Um, I mean, there is just

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 1>any reason, and you know what it is. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always related to that. I'm so invested. I really feel,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a lot of things, and it's so hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to really just let people I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I think it's hard for me to just put

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<v Speaker 1>up this front. Yes, I'm a strong person. Yes I'm

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a strong woman. I yeah, all of the things. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think when it's my job, because I love

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it so much and because I've been this invested in it,

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I do get mushy. I get so that that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a real challenge for me to do a face

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to face. I have to be honest. Some people welcome

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that face to face. They want to see that reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see this bitch face when I tell

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm not gonna work in no more. I really

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to do that. You love your job and

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you know and we love you back. So it would be, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a hurtful moments. It'll be a breakup,

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. But some people it'll be like a sigh

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>of relief. Some people would quit and walk outside Carolina

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and kiss every stranger walking down. I'm telling you because

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of friends and I hear them,

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of people are very very unhappy.

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.080
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but definitely a face to face. Don't do

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<v Speaker 1>what I used to do. Don't slide a two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>notice and don't send an email. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like informal. You know. I have to give

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<v Speaker 1>credit to my old producer Colleen, because producer Colleen came

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<v Speaker 1>to me a couple of months before she started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at other jobs, and because we had such a great relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>She said to me, and it was kind of the

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.479
<v Speaker 1>same thing. So I felt like it was reciprocated because

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I went to Elvis when I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for another job, she came to me because she

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<v Speaker 1>knew this was my right arm, my right hand. This

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>girl anticipated everything I was going to say before I

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<v Speaker 1>even said it. She knew what direction I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go in, and so I really saw myself growing

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<v Speaker 1>with her. And when she came to tell me, I

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>knew how hard that had to be for her, because

0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I know how hard it was for me when I

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<v Speaker 1>had to have that conversation with somebody that I respected.

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 1>And the minute that she said it, my heartbroke for me, obviously,

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, oh my gosh, what am I

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:55.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna do without this girl? But then I said to her, look,

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I respect and appreciate you so much, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. I will be here for you every

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<v Speaker 1>step of the way. I just don't ever want to

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.439
<v Speaker 1>know from somebody else. Please please just keep me in

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the loop when you find the gig. I want to know,

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and let's just keep the lines of communication open. And

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>then I did say to her, this stays between me

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and you. I will not tell a soul. And I

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't because I felt like that would be so unfair

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>for her to be looking to get out of this

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>industry or looking to get out of this job, and

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>to tell people her business that really wasn't my place.

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 1>So I am so proud that she can confided in me,

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really glad that she did that, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it also gave me time to mentally prepare for

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>her to exit. Carolina, You're an amazing person, but you're

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>also one in a million. I don't think anybody who

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>will thinking about quitting their job would even go to

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>their boss and say I'm thinking of quitting. I guess

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>out of fear of being fired on the spot. You

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>know you have tacked, you have. I guess you're caring person.

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Some people don't react well. Some losses do not react

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>well to the news that you no longer want to

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>be at the company because of a lot of different things.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>They have to replace you. They might feel like you're ungrateful.

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And there's also the whole aspect of I no longer

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>want a person accessing my files or accessing, you know,

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>my records. That's no longer going to be with me. So,

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know if if you can actually

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>confide in anyone as far as I'm not gonna I'm

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be looking, then they feel like you're gonna be

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 1>looking on their time. It's weird. You're dope. You're super

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>dope for that. And Colleen doesn't understand how lucky she

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>is because I know people actively searching and they are hiding.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want her to do that. Yeah, I didn't

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>want her sneaking around. I didn't think it was fair

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for her for her mental load because I knew that

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 1>she was still gonna help me with it. So it

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is a lot when you're really when you're thinking about

0:24:56.560 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>repositioning in life and now what we're in our thirties worties.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm in my forties, she's in her thirties, and so

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, Okay, this is an opportunity. You

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>can either help her support her and encourage her, or

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you could be an actual bitch, make her life miserable

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and make your own life uncomfortable. And that for me

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>was not the move. So I I do have to say,

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like I give producer Calling a lot of credit, but

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I also think that we fostered that environment with each other.

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>So even though I said don't tell people, I think

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>if there is that one person, or if you're if

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a mentor, but that's the thing, people can

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>turn like that. Honey, that's the problem, Carolina. Let's especially,

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say like an industry where people know each other.

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's say like let's say radio. We both work in radio.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows each other in radio. There is no going

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to your mentor that works in another market and telling

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>them you want to leave. There's no such thing, because

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like everybody knows everybody, and and somebody always tells somebody.

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know the amount of stuff I hear,

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>oh such and such as quitting, Oh such and such

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>as a high it over here and they're gonna announce

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it in six months, and they just talk. Everybody talks.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why do I always end up knowing when

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gearing up for a career changed. It's because the

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>industry is very small, and even though New York is huge,

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>New York is a little backyard when it comes to

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>certain industries, and people will sabotage you too. I've noticed

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>that in our industry. Figure I saw it when I

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was looking for my own co host, when I would

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 1>tell people who I was thinking of having to come

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 1>on the show because we did a bunch of tryouts.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I tried out, I know, and I loved it, and

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I was so hopeful and that got shot down. But

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, I I really, I really wanted to create

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>a show. And I asked them, I said, can I

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Can I get a third mic? Can I get a

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.360
<v Speaker 1>co host and a third mic? Can I get two producers?

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I get? I think I asked for literally everything

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>and a Capri Son because I'm not even joking. I

0:26:55.680 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>asked for seriously every combination Luna and kept saying no, no, no,

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 1>no no to me. But I at least love that

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I tried. But there were people who were really grimy

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that I would say, oh, so and so is gonna

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>come and try out with me for three days. You

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want so and so, so and so is X

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>y Z and so and so does this. Oh and

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't even know about this about so and so,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, damn. It really made me question.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>It made me question the people who were saying the

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>trash to me because I'm like, wow, you're gonna dog

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that person out before they even got a chance. That

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the people I didn't even meet in person,

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.959
<v Speaker 1>like I had never met, but I feel like that

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was so unfair, And if anything, I think I was

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 1>more kind to those people because I was like, Wow,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>some people really are trying to throw some dirt on you.

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>This is not cool. So you want to almost help

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>those people. But back to the whole like great resignation,

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>I think that one of the most important things that

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you need to remember is don't blow off the exit interview.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I think it's always a good look, like we to

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>have that conversation with your manager, tell him or her

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>where they can improve. The exit interview is where you

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>can really get down with HR and you can let

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>HR no, Hey, just a heads up. I was hired

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 1>to be a photographer, but now I'm a videographer. Now

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing social media, and now I'm doing this or

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that and that's where you can maybe bring some of

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>those red flag things up to h R in your

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>exit in a more professional way. I mean, look, I

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean we're just trying to kind of

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>navigate through this whole thing. But I know that there

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>are so many people who are desperate to get out

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>of their situations because it's such a toxic environment or

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>because they're not seeing that growth that they expected. And

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I think also, you know, don't forget to you know,

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>what you learned and what what what you know, what

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the career or we're working at this company taught you,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, take away from it, you know, write it

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>all down, but like this was my experience, this is

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>what I learned. Kind of like wrap it all up

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and don't beat yourself up. Don't be like, oh, I

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>wasted five years of my life at this horrible company.

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure there were good moments and I'm pretty

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>sure that you learned a lot from you know, your

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>current role. So give yourself a little bit of credit.

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't beat yourself up. And also ask your manager, you know,

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like would you be willing to give me a reference?

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, leave that door open, and you know, don't

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>kill the relationship. Don't leave there with a stank attitude.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and then I just thought of another thing.

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Social media is not your friend when you're about to

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>resign homies. Social media is not the spot. Don't be

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>putting up memes. Don't be putting I mean just people

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>can see right through that, the unhappiness, the negativity. Don't

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>contribute to it. I've always heard as saying, and I'm

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna probably butcher it because I don't remember it verbatim,

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>but make your moves in silence. Don't be posting it.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so many people who do that. Here's

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>your here's your quote, well, the hood version of the quote.

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Real geez moving silence like lasagna. Okay, yes, exactly, Yes,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what it is. I could come to you

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>for it. Yes, I think that's jay Z or Biggie,

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the two. Don't don't kill me for it.

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But yo, stay quiet. And even after you quit, Carolina,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>there is no reason to go on social media and

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>vent about your coworkers, vent about the company, vent about

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>your boss. Even if you don't name people by name,

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>trust me, that post is gonna make it to every

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>single coworkers. Supervisor manager and vice president's desk. There's your

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>employee that quit. This is what he is saying about you.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>And you never know when you're gonna come back, because

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>look at me. For example, I left the company, I

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 1>went to CBS. I came back to my heart because

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I tried to do things and the best possible in

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the most respectful way. Everybody has their own version of things.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is just be you're in

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself and be confident that you did it the best

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>way that you possibly could. So I don't know. I

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>hope that this episode, if you know somebody who's struggling

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>or going through this, maybe you can share it with them,

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>because number one, they're not alone. Number Two, I think

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that there are a lot of people who are sitting

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>back and really looking and thinking to themselves. Whether it's

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a career move, whether it is staying home for good

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.959
<v Speaker 1>for a short period of time, or for you know,

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>taking a sabbatical. Maybe you've wanted to be more creative

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>in your life, maybe you want to write all of

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>those things, whatever it is that you want to do. Unfortunately,

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>for people who are not planners, I would say you've

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>got to have a plan. You've gotta have some points

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 1>and stick to them so that in the end you

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>don't get burned. We're just looking out for you. We

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to burn that little hell no, and

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't want you to burn these bridges. You know,

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>people be like, I'm gonna burn this bridge, and you

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, move on. I these people like, nah, don't

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, and whatever you do. Also, make sure to

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>write a resignation letter. Yes, yes, you have to file.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Leave it for your file, you know. And here's a

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of things that you know you should make sure

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you hit, you know, just not your last day. Let

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>them know. Also, you know, appreciation and gratitude. Let them

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>know what you're appreciative of and you know maybe um,

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, just thank them. I look forward to maybe

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>marking with you again the same way you just said. Like,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like I'm in a position now, but

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>let's say I moved on and then in four years

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they're like, wow, we have this great, you know, senior

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>vice president position. And they're like, and I apply and

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>they're like wow. She was amazing. Even when she left,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>she was so you know, she was so gracious, she

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was so nice, She did it in such a good

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>manner that you never know. You just might go back

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to that company later on as a big boss, and

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>then you'll already know what to do, what not to do,

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and how to make sure that the culture at the

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>company is what you would have loved. Can give one

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>more because it's just I'm just here, this is our show,

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>this is us. I I would love if you are

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>considering leaving and you've seen somebody hustling and really doing

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>their best and trying to move up within the company,

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>give a word of recommendation. Say, hey, this job did

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<v Speaker 1>not work out for me, but Melissa has really shown

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<v Speaker 1>me that she wants to grow. I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys should pay some attention to her. Maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>provide her with some training. I think that that might

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<v Speaker 1>be the catalyst for one person to move up in

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<v Speaker 1>their career. Just because it didn't work out for you

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you can't leave. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I always try to look at the bright side.

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<v Speaker 1>I always try to look at how how can we

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<v Speaker 1>lift each other up? How can we lift up another person,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a guy or girl, whoever it is. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're leaving, if you've seen that person that's taking on

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<v Speaker 1>three jobs. And that's always the person that you go

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<v Speaker 1>to when you're in a pinch and you're like, damn, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>can you come and help me out. That's the person

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<v Speaker 1>that you tell the big boss when you're having the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for everything. I'm sorry that our time is done.

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<v Speaker 1>If I may, I do have to say I think

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<v Speaker 1>Denise is a star. I think Denise really needs some

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<v Speaker 1>more attention and maybe some training, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you could really get a great employee out of her.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to give you my two cents before

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<v Speaker 1>I leave. That is something that I think is super important.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy, Carolina. I got my start working

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<v Speaker 1>as a paralegal because of a situation like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just a receptionist. I was eighteen years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember right by my desk there was an older woman,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fifties sixties, I don't remember exactly, and she always

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<v Speaker 1>used to be like, let me teach you this or

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<v Speaker 1>let me teach you that, and I'm like, fine, teach me,

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<v Speaker 1>teach me, teach me, teach me. A year goes by,

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<v Speaker 1>she retires, and before she retired, she tells my boss,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who I want to have my job. You

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<v Speaker 1>see that girl on the receptionist desk, she knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything I do. I taught her for the

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<v Speaker 1>past year. I want you to give her my office.

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<v Speaker 1>And Carolina, at nineteen years old, they put me in

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<v Speaker 1>an office and I became a civil litigation paralegal and

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<v Speaker 1>then I went to school to get my certificate and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting that bread early in the game. What

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<v Speaker 1>a gift. And all she had to do was have

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation. So think about it that way, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, I feel like the karma for you

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<v Speaker 1>will grow and it will open if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>just do your best to try to help other people out. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like we've definitely brought up

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<v Speaker 1>some great points tonight. But if you want to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to us, well, if we hold on stretch before

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<v Speaker 1>you patch yourself on the back. Girl, just I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we just gave so much good advice today.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. I really and I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>can pull from our own experiences and if we learned something,

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<v Speaker 1>we can give that information to you guys so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do better. I always want people to do

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<v Speaker 1>better than I did. And that's just something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been that way. I've never been the jealous

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<v Speaker 1>type of person where oh I don't want this person

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<v Speaker 1>to come up because we can all eat. We can

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<v Speaker 1>all eat, but you've got to support each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself in a position. Yes, there's food for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, gas, I don't know. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can afford it right now? Can I like carpool

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<v Speaker 1>all day? I'm serious? But no, for real, if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have any questions, always feel free to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to us. D M me at the Real Carolina. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys reached out after the last episode and

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<v Speaker 1>I love when you give me your feedback number one.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have follow up questions, We're always here

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You guys are the reason why we do

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, and we can always you know, share articles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we mentioned a study, you know, just

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>hit us up and be like, do you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>have the link? And you know what, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it, we'll find it for you. We're here for you,

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<v Speaker 1>We work for you. Absolutely, Yes, we are your resource,

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<v Speaker 1>so make sure you hit us up. I'm at the

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. I'm actually the only Honey German in the world. Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so amazing. I'm telling you I'm the real Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>but only because there were imposters, damn it. So learn

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