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Speaker 1: to see a solid pass rush and I want to

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Speaker 1: see a running game. Does it matter to you if

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Speaker 1: the Bills face Matthew Stafford tonight. Does it matter when

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Speaker 1: you look at her pass rush, I would think you'd

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Speaker 1: like to see him go up against the NFL caliber

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Speaker 1: starting well ones against their twos. Yeah, they, but I

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Speaker 1: want to see it. I want to see him dominate.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him dominate that team. If they're

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Speaker 1: if if Matt Stafford and the ones for the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lions don't take any reps or anything like that, and

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Speaker 1: it's the Bills ones through the first half, yeah, I

436
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Speaker 1: need they should be leading by two scores. Okay, I think,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean. I think they.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to see him. I want to

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Speaker 1: see him play and play well. This is a team

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Speaker 1: we've always had, We've had high expectations for them. Um

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Speaker 1: that's what it should look like to me, and I

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Speaker 1: believe the expectations have been ramped up. They said in

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Speaker 1: their first two preseason games, an't sure and they haven't

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Speaker 1: even damn faced the starting quarterback. I get it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: They've faced a Carolina team that is without three Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl or All Pro offensive players and you know, one

447
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Speaker 1: All Pro defensive player. But they you know, I want

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Speaker 1: to see him dominate a group of seconds, if they're

449
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Speaker 1: If the Detroit Lions are gonna lay down and start

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Speaker 1: guys who may or may not be on the team

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Speaker 1: in two or three weeks, Yeah, this is a time

452
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Speaker 1: and you're playing your ones against them. Yeah, you need

453
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Speaker 1: to be up by a couple of scores. Do you

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Speaker 1: one more question? We're gonna get too calls here. Do

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Speaker 1: you pull your ones, your starters out earlier? If in fact,

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Speaker 1: the Lions don't play their starters, I believe you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're if they're if they're dominating, looking good, playing well,

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Speaker 1: even if right, if they're playing well, if they're looking yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if they're not playing well, I don't want exposure. Look,

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Speaker 1: if they're not putting any value in this game, the Lions,

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Speaker 1: then I don't want the Bills to put any value

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Speaker 1: in this game. I don't want them to increase the

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Speaker 1: risk that their season might be affected by what goes

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Speaker 1: on here tonight. If the Lions aren't prepared to do that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know what I mean? I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't run scared like that. I like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that smart. Yeah, I'm sure it's smart, um,

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Speaker 1: but I'm Now, if you've got a plan, I would

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Speaker 1: stick to your plan no matter what the Lions do.

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Speaker 1: If you want Josh to go in at halftime, make

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Speaker 1: some halftime adjustments, come out and get a series after halftime,

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Speaker 1: I think go ahead and do that. Um in fact,

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Speaker 1: in fact, if if the Lions are gonna do what

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Speaker 1: the Packers did last night, and that's sit thirty three

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Speaker 1: of their best players and go with I mean you're

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Speaker 1: talking to them, you're talking a pretty good college team,

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Speaker 1: you know, sixty five nothing. I mean, go go out

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Speaker 1: there and ring it up and go and I and

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Speaker 1: I don't pain. What do you gain from that? Reps?

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Speaker 1: Just it's reps. It's it's a good practice against guys

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Speaker 1: who are trying hard, and and it's it's a statement.

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Speaker 1: And I'm you know, if they don't want to if

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Speaker 1: they don't want to play, make them pay for it. Well, again,

484
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Speaker 1: what do you gain from that him pay for it

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Speaker 1: and risk maybe affecting your regular season that I'd be

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Speaker 1: worried about. Well, here's the thing you're risking. You risk

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Speaker 1: every time you take on the practice field. If you've

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Speaker 1: got if you've got a plan, stick to the plan

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Speaker 1: and make sure your players know it, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this too. And this is one thing, too, Murph

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Speaker 1: that gets me that people don't think about too much.

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Speaker 1: And when like yesterday Frank Wright came out and announced

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Speaker 1: that his starters were not he's changed his mind yea,

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Speaker 1: and none of his starters are gonna play. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Jakobe Brissette's not gonna play on Saturday for the for

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Speaker 1: the Colts, Frank Reich had it in every every sense

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Speaker 1: that they were going to do out and do exactly

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, play his starters through the first

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Speaker 1: two quarters and into the second half and then set

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Speaker 1: him down right to get him in the game at atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: and he changed that. Doing that, to me, that's dangerous

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Speaker 1: because you get these guys and I'm glad he did

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Speaker 1: it a couple of days before they could ramp up.

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Speaker 1: But if if Sean McDermott now decides that after they've

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Speaker 1: been kind of gearing up for this and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden he pulls the plug, I think that's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Players can't get all of a sudden He's like, I

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Speaker 1: thought I was gonna play like three series. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: playing the whole game. That's hard. For a player to do.

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Speaker 1: That's hard for a player to look his best. It's

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Speaker 1: hard for a player to play well and be prepared

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Speaker 1: to play not knowing what's going to happen on game day.

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Speaker 1: I think a late change in the plan is as

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Speaker 1: dangerous as putting guys out there. It really is, because

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Speaker 1: guys that don't have their mind right. That's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: gotta think about that. Let's take two of your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We'll take calls on the structure of preseason, as we

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Speaker 1: did yesterday, based on what you saw last night, what's

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Speaker 1: happening this weekend, and what are you looking forward for

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Speaker 1: tonight's game? A player, a scheme production, like Steve said,

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Speaker 1: sacks pass rush, give us a call, lines open eight

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Speaker 1: three fifty, toll free one eight eight eight by fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. We start with Brian in Hamlin, New York. Hello, Brian,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us. Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: how you doing that? Steven's I couldn't talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: The last time I called in Donald was in Steve

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Speaker 1: Ce's not there. How about Eric in Pennsylvania? Eric? Are

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Speaker 1: you there? Yeah? Yea Eric, go ahead, yeah? Preseason? Why

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Speaker 1: don't we have the first game be one where they

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Speaker 1: play all the rookies, like you gentlemen suggested yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: then the next three games be a third of a

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Speaker 1: point each. So if you win the game and get

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Speaker 1: a third of a point, if you don't win the

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Speaker 1: game and get something. If the season zin when you

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Speaker 1: have ties, that could be your first tiebreaker that they

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Speaker 1: have two thirds of a point. The other team may

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Speaker 1: not have that. If they do have two thirds of

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Speaker 1: a point. For two teams that are tied, then you

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Speaker 1: use the rest of the tiebreakers, but to give them

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Speaker 1: an incentive to make sure that they actually play the

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Speaker 1: games to win. No. Sorry, this is Brian right, yes, Eric, Eric, Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is Brian. Oh. This is Brian. Okay, Bryan. I

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Speaker 1: don't like that idea, and it reminds me of how

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball would figure out who gets home field

545
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Speaker 1: in the World Series based on the meaningless Exhibition Game,

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Look, the games either count or

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Speaker 1: they don't. They can't just count a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: And because then these coaches, these players, who try to

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Speaker 1: take every advantage they can, will play to win these games.

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Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, you've got a twenty

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Speaker 1: game regular season. No, I don't think that would work, Brian.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Steve? Yeah, I agree, it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see why you're doing it. You're trying to solve

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Speaker 1: a problem and incentivize a win in the preseason. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's a yeah. I just that that throws

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Speaker 1: a pool, a pebble into the into a pool that

557
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Speaker 1: is the pool's already boiling, you know. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: you're not You're not solving anything there, because then you've

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Speaker 1: got to think about this. You will have a critical

560
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Speaker 1: decision at the end of the season or a tiebreaker

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season that was made by

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Speaker 1: a guy who is not even in the National Football

563
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Speaker 1: League anymore because he was cut a week after they

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Speaker 1: lost the game because of a kid dropping a punt

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Speaker 1: or something like that. So I yeah, well, I see,

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Speaker 1: I see the rationale from kind of incentivizing the importance

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Speaker 1: of these games. But if you're going to incentivize that,

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Speaker 1: you got to do it in a different way. I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you got to start making

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Speaker 1: him count. I agree. Let's take a call here from

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Speaker 1: this is Eric in Pennsylvania. I believe Eric, are you

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Speaker 1: there yes, but ahead, Yeah. I was just wondering what

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Speaker 1: juring your radio down, Eric, please, I just wonder what

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Speaker 1: you guys thought of Buffalo Bills as a whole. Why

575
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Speaker 1: all the commentators are putting them, you know, winning three

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Speaker 1: or four games and criticizing Josh sound putting him as

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Speaker 1: one of the least quarterbacks in the leg. Josh has

578
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Speaker 1: always Josh has been polarizing since the time he came

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Speaker 1: out because he's got a lot of ability, He's got

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Speaker 1: a big arm, he's a big athlete, he came from

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Speaker 1: a small school. They look at his completion percentage and

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Speaker 1: they make some some sweeping judgment about it. They looked

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Speaker 1: at the team, the offense that he was on last

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Speaker 1: year and blamed him for a lot of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why it wasn't productive. They don't think he makes good decisions.

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Speaker 1: They don't think he throws the football where he wants

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Speaker 1: to throw it. All of that stuff. They and they

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Speaker 1: think that the Buffalo Bills record over the last eighteen,

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty years has relevance to the record they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have this year. That's and I think that last thing

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Speaker 1: I said is as much about why they don't pick

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Speaker 1: the Bills and why they don't like Josh Allen as anything.

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Speaker 1: And Eric, I don't think there's a look some people.

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Speaker 1: It's it's opinion season. Everybody has a different opinion. We

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Speaker 1: focus a lot on this show of about the opinion

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Speaker 1: makers who have something good to say about the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and there are some who don't. I'm all right with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot of people who

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Speaker 1: I haven't dared anybody say that the Bills are gonna

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Speaker 1: win three games? Have you Steve Well? On ESPN today

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Speaker 1: they said ceilings in floor for NFL teams and they

602
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Speaker 1: jump to the Buffalo Bills. They've got the Bills floor

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Speaker 1: at four and twelve and the ceiling at nine and seven.

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Speaker 1: So there's a wide range of plus minus there. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, barring a bus crash, that the Bills, there's

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Speaker 1: any way the only Bills only win four games this year,

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Speaker 1: they're they're a significantly better football team on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the football, all three sides of the football than

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Speaker 1: they were a year ago. And they won six games

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Speaker 1: and were two bounces away from going eight and eight.

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Speaker 1: So I think they're significantly better than they were a

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Speaker 1: year ago. So yeah, And let's face it, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the things you'll read simply simply come from guys

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Speaker 1: looking from the west coast, or the or the northeast,

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00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: or from another city and look in they read a

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Speaker 1: couple of things about the Bills, and they make sweeping judgments,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's what they do, and it's it's the

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Speaker 1: opinion business. The guys like that are here in town.

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Speaker 1: I think they ten to know that the Bills are

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Speaker 1: building something pretty solid here. And while that's no guarantee

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Speaker 1: of success, when you do things the right way, certainly

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Speaker 1: you have better reason to think that the results are

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Speaker 1: going to be better than they have been in the past.

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Speaker 1: So and I think that's the atmosphere we're sitting in

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Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. All Right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue with this discussion. We can talk about

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Speaker 1: the efficacy. Is that a word, Steve, Yes, it is?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? I have no clue. I'm gonna look.

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Speaker 1: I think I got the right word there, the efficacy

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Speaker 1: of preseason football. I think we're at a at a

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Speaker 1: turning point right now in the NFL, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that. We'd like to hear your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about who end? What are you looking

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Speaker 1: for in tonight's preseason game? To every three? Got phone

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Speaker 1: lines open, we got the Twitter open. Join us. Won't

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Speaker 1: We're from the Detroit Marriott in Troy, Michigan. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back back in the hotel. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I were back at the hotel doing the show

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Speaker 1: the Detroit and marant on West Big Beaver Road and Troy, Michigan.

646
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Speaker 1: The Bills and the Detroit Lions coming up tonight. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about this game. I know. Look, I questioned the

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Speaker 1: efficacy of preseason football, but I'm an idiot because I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about this game tonight. I mentioned I want to

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Speaker 1: see Dawson Knox. I want to see how Josh and

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Speaker 1: the first team offense look, presuming they play. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about I know there's gonna be a point tonight

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Speaker 1: around nine fifteen. I'm looking forward to the end of

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Speaker 1: tonight's game. You know they won't be nine fifteen, but hopefully, hopefully, yeah,

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Speaker 1: hopefully the games always hopefully the game's over, like ten

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Speaker 1: forty five, I'll be looking around, okay, but uh, most notably,

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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't last four hours. But here's the

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Speaker 1: thing up, I am excited about it too. I think

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans are too. You gotta see this. You want

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Speaker 1: to see these guys play, all of them, and there

661
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: are guys you're still rooting for. We're getting feedback on

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Speaker 1: what do you want to see from in tonight's game. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Christian Wade's still on everybody's mind. They want

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Speaker 1: to see more of him. They want to see if

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Speaker 1: it's really, if it's real, if he can do it

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Speaker 1: all the time that means almost get to the end

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Speaker 1: zone every time he touches the football. They want to

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Speaker 1: see Dawson Knox, like you said, he's we haven't seen him,

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Speaker 1: and he's a pick that this. You know, this team

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Speaker 1: had high hopes for and this fan base had high

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Speaker 1: hopes for. I want to see more Josh Allen looking

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Speaker 1: good like he has looked in this preseason. They want more,

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Speaker 1: I think, more reassurance that this is a football team

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Speaker 1: that has been doing things right and been doing things

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Speaker 1: right for a while now, and you have reason to

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Speaker 1: believe that you're going to see some results as a

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Speaker 1: result as as you know, as this season takes place,

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Speaker 1: you have another call on the line. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Kevin in Hamburg. Hello, Kevin, welcome to the show. You're

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Speaker 1: on the air with us. Hey, guys, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Good? Good? I like I'm glad

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Speaker 1: Steve brought up about Christian Waite. I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: how he'd be like with the starters. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're gonna get a chance to see that, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I think a lot of people want to

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Speaker 1: see it. I think a lot of people want to

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Speaker 1: see more of him. They're tired of you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, at least a couple of plays with a

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Speaker 1: couple of short runs on like third and two, and

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Speaker 1: see how he'd be on third down with a good

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know. I'd love the Christian wage story,

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Speaker 1: I would say, Kevin, I like the Christian Wage story

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Speaker 1: as much as anyone love it. First touch sixty five yards,

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Speaker 1: touchdowns past forty eight forty nine yards last week, love it,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he's ready for the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: reps against first teamers, third downs against first teamers tonight

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Speaker 1: won't make a big difference in that. I think they

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Speaker 1: know what they have there. They have an interesting athletic

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Speaker 1: project projects. He's a project. He's not never played the

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Speaker 1: game before. There are many parts of the game I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that Christian Wade is not really aware of right now,

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Speaker 1: And I think they can invest one year in developing

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Speaker 1: Christian Wade and maybe we have this discussion a year

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Speaker 1: from now. Here's the problem you have with Christian Wade.

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Speaker 1: He's got so much on his play trying to learn

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Speaker 1: how to play running back in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: You can't even ask him to line up and cover kicks.

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Speaker 1: You can't even ask him to line up and cover punts,

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Speaker 1: or return kicks or return because it's a completely different

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Speaker 1: set of rules that he and he doesn't know any

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Speaker 1: of those either. So he's not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to contribute in any other way other than with the

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Speaker 1: ball in his hands. And I get people saying, well,

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Speaker 1: listen if he you know, he's not going to score

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Speaker 1: a touchdown every time he touches the football, and there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be times when things happen. A football player who's

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Speaker 1: been playing the game from from the time he was

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Speaker 1: eight years old all the way up through high school,

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Speaker 1: college and now the pros. There are things he would

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Speaker 1: do the second nature that Christian Wade is unfamiliar with,

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Speaker 1: so they they have to I think he needs to

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Speaker 1: be here for a long time to give them some

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Speaker 1: assurances so that when unexpected things happen, he'll know what

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Speaker 1: to do. And they'll put him through that on the

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Speaker 1: practice field, through the through the season. When they get

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Speaker 1: a chance to watch him, you know, take handoffs and

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Speaker 1: run scout team and do some of the things that

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Speaker 1: they do. When things happen, he'll be able to ask questions,

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Speaker 1: why did this happen? Why did that happen. They'll be

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Speaker 1: able to explain it to him. Right now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to think about, but the game is just

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Speaker 1: too complicated. Did to put him out there particularly with

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Speaker 1: some you know, with some valuable assets that are other

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Speaker 1: than him, like Josh Allen, and like some other like

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and the other starters in the team. Plus

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Speaker 1: you know you got other guys you want to look

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Speaker 1: at too. So I think the fact that he's so

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Speaker 1: limited in his ability to contribute the only thing he

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Speaker 1: can do is and I get it, it's important. If

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Speaker 1: you hand him the ball or throw him the ball,

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Speaker 1: he can contribute. But that's it. So LaShaun McCoy can

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Speaker 1: contribute in other ways, Frank Gore contributes in other ways.

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Speaker 1: Every team player on the team can contribute in other ways.

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Speaker 1: And that's where Christian Wade, that's where his in his

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Speaker 1: contribution ends. I agree. Call here from David Florida. Hello Dave,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You're on the air. Steve Howre

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Speaker 1: the guy who's doing today. Great plan I got over

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Speaker 1: the years. I'm been a fan of Buffalo back in

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Speaker 1: the sixties. This to that, but anyway to four preseason games.

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Speaker 1: What I don't understand is when did they take away

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Speaker 1: this the third The third game was the dress rehearsal.

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Speaker 1: What that does is just just interest the hell out

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Speaker 1: of me and a lot of fans. We want the

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Speaker 1: one on one one defense against the one offense, and

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get why they're allowed

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Speaker 1: to do that. I don't know if they want to

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Speaker 1: protect the players whom getting hurt, well, they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: hurt in two weeks anyway, when I have to start

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Speaker 1: the season, and I don't know, well, I mean nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, uh, Dave. Nothing is written down.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no rules. Who plays win. But traditionally,

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Speaker 1: over the last what twenty years, maybe the third preseason

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Speaker 1: game was the one typically where the starters that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna start within a couple of weeks with players against

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Speaker 1: the number one defense and defense needs to stop their

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Speaker 1: number one in the preseason. Yeah, we get, yeah, we

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00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: get a Dave, and we know what you want to see.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You know, you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at players that have been hurt in that game.

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Speaker 1: It's just here's why they used to do that, and

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Speaker 1: here's why it came about day. Let me just explain

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Speaker 1: it this way. The reason the NFL gravitated towards playing

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Speaker 1: guys in the third preseason game was that it gave

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Speaker 1: them a chance to go through the game situation through

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Speaker 1: the first half, play ones on ones and then if

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Speaker 1: they tweaked an ankle or if they you know, hurt

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Speaker 1: their finger, or if they you know, got shaken up

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Speaker 1: in a game, they would have two full weeks before

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Speaker 1: they actually played a game that mattered, and then they

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Speaker 1: could be healthy by then. That was the idea it was.

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Speaker 1: It gave him enough time so if something minor happened,

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Speaker 1: they could shake it off and be one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: for the season opener. That's why they waited till the

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Speaker 1: third preseason game. It gave him enough time to practice

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Speaker 1: and get sharp. Then it gave him one game, the

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Speaker 1: third one to play against in a real competitive atmosphere

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Speaker 1: against another team's number ones, and then if something did happen,

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Speaker 1: it was was two full weeks or even more than

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Speaker 1: two full weeks because they're playing on Friday, to get

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Speaker 1: healthy for them the first game. That's the only reason

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Speaker 1: it ever got to the fact that you got one

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Speaker 1: on ones on ones for the third preseason game. It

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Speaker 1: just seemed to fit the schedule for the coaches, so

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Speaker 1: they had a little bit of a an idea that

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Speaker 1: their guys would be healthy in two weeks or over

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Speaker 1: two weeks. So that's the only reason that it exists

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Speaker 1: in the first place. It wasn't like some rule or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. It just made sense with the schedule.

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Speaker 1: That's why these guys had that for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It was a third preseason game that was the most important.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't set in stone. It wasn't a rule. It

802
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: just made sense with the schedule. That's it. So you

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Speaker 1: can you know, everybody wants to see ones on ones.

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Speaker 1: You know what they do. They do that in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. Your ones are gonna get plenty of one time.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time you're gonna get to see that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. We'll take a break. We're coming back.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. We're coming to

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Speaker 1: from Detroit, Michigan. This is Buffalo Bill's Reason Run. I'm

810
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Speaker 1: back to the joke. Dember Casker one goes Bave. We

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Speaker 1: got Mike Bodis standing body to join us at one

812
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Speaker 1: o'clock today. Long time Bill's defensive lineman lives in this area.

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Speaker 1: Six Super Bowl appearances. Wow, that Steve is talking about that.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. Two and four in the game too,

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Speaker 1: think it. I'm over I know this. Yeah, Hey, we're

816
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Speaker 1: talking about pre season what went on last night and

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Speaker 1: what's going on with preseason football in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about what you'd like to see in tonight's game.

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Speaker 1: Bills at the lines, Let's go to Michael on the

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Speaker 1: phone line. Michael, thanks for Colin, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: You're on the air, Hi, guys. I was just wondering,

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Speaker 1: you know, should I used to have, you know, if

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Speaker 1: he's a thicket site pay the full price for um,

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Speaker 1: you know, for preseason games. And I remember thought that

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Speaker 1: was fair. What are you guys thinking about that? I'm sorry, well,

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Speaker 1: sorry about We talked about this yesterday. Yeah, um, well

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Speaker 1: fair or not? I mean, it's the cost of what

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Speaker 1: the ticket is, right, you mentioned that yesterday. You go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you don't have to buy it if you don't.

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Speaker 1: Why it's tough most most people, most people think, um,

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Speaker 1: if they've got season tickets, they like they're they just

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Speaker 1: incorporate those two preseason games into the cost of the

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Speaker 1: whole the whole thing. And if they go to the

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Speaker 1: preseason games, fine, or they give the tickets away or

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Speaker 1: donate the tickets whatever, what have you. Uh, they just

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Speaker 1: kind of washed that into the eight games they really

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Speaker 1: want to see. Uh. And and they do that in

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Speaker 1: order to like you said, you want to sit in

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Speaker 1: the seats. You have your season tickets, and you've had

840
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Speaker 1: them for a while, or you've moved up, you've upgraded,

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Speaker 1: you want you don't want to you know, you want

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Speaker 1: those seats, So you're willing to pay for the two

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Speaker 1: preseason games in order for the right to sit where

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Speaker 1: you want to sit, have those seats when you have them,

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Speaker 1: and and you kind of kind of wash it into

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Speaker 1: the rest of the cost of the tickets. Everybody across

847
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Speaker 1: the league does it. It's not just Buffalo, it's a

848
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: it's a league policy and that it's been It's been

849
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: fought against at times by by clubs, including the Bills

850
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: in the past, but you know, the league's not gonna

851
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: budge on it. And I think, like we said, in

852
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: order for any of this to change, I think what

853
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: will really happen is it's going to have to be

854
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: the football guys that that ask the owners to change it,

855
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Which might be what we're

856
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: seeing right now, might be what we're seeing right now

857
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: right might be you know, coaches have a lot of

858
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: authorities saying I'm not playing these guys, and the owners

859
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: will get that pushed back from from callers like um Mike,

860
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: and we just said, you know, the owners will hear

861
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: if their fans, if their customers say hey, I'm not

862
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: interested in this because you're look what your coach did.

863
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay for that camp. Right that

864
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: that could that could be the avenue for change, right

865
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: it might It might well be. Um. I certainly the coaches,

866
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: given their the large way they have over their football team,

867
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, they're not gonna do anything they don't

868
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: think will help their team win. And they're certainly gonna

869
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: stay away from things they think's got a chance to

870
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: hurt them and hurt their chances to win. So these

871
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: preseason games are the they're the acid test of what

872
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: these football coaches really think about what these games and

873
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: how dangerous they are and how risky they are, and

874
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 1: what they want to show. I mean, they don't show

875
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: their concepts that they're gonna run during the regular season.

876
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: They're trying to evaluate young players. But we said this before,

877
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: we all you know, you know, I were laughing at

878
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: each other. We're talking at length about the sixth white out.

879
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, you're right, these coaches are interested in the

880
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: top three guys. They want to get those guys ready.

881
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: They want to get Josh Allen, the Sean McCoy, Frank

882
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: Gore ready, and they're they're very interested in the bottom

883
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: of the roster. Don't get me wrong, but man, old man,

884
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, they need their they need

885
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: their stars to shine and they want to make sure

886
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: they got everything they need to polish them. And that's

887
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: that's what it's about. It's like one more call before

888
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: we break for the top of the hour. Michael from

889
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: Amherst on the line with us. Go ahead, Michael, Hello,

890
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: how you guys doing? Okay? Good? Do you guys hear me? Good? Yeah?

891
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Yeah? Yeah? Can you hear me now? Yep? Hello,

892
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, Michael. We're waiting on you. Go ahead talk okay, Okay,

893
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just want to say my four year

894
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: old daughter and my two year old son loved the

895
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: show that all times saying one gold live but um, yeah,

896
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: I just want to weigh the preseason. Come on, we'll

897
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: talk to him. NA. Yeah, I know, I know, I

898
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: love it. My daughter's right next to me on my

899
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: son's napping off stairs. But yeah, we just thought if

900
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, we we're excited for tonight's game

901
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: and the preseason. It is important, we believe, because if

902
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of the preseason, I believe that's

903
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: a lot of what the ninety man roster is. Four.

904
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, why not just cut it down the fifty

905
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: three right away, because you're trying to see who can

906
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: get on this team. And I believe you guys. You

907
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: guys have said it before and myself is at sometimes

908
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: you don't know what these players have until they until

909
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: they get in game time, and sometimes they shine. So

910
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: how would that the fifty three man routes? Or look

911
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: if these ones never get that opportunity in game time,

912
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: why don't you guys think that? Well, that's right, I

913
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I think that. See if some people

914
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: make the argument that though these coaches all over the league,

915
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: not just Buffalo, know right now for the most part,

916
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: who their fifty three is, or at least they're fifty five,

917
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: they don't need these games, what do you think? Yeah?

918
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: I think they need. I think they know who they're

919
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: and that this number ferries. Let's let's face it, every

920
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: team's different. So this team this year, I think the

921
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: Bills know who maybe their top forty guys are, maybe

922
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: the last fifteen. They don't. I mean, they don't know

923
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: who their putner is going to be yet, you know

924
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. They don't know who they're fourth,

925
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: fifth wide out are. They don't know maybe know what

926
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the order they're gonna drop down into with their fourth

927
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: and fifth corners, or their sixth corners, or their fifth

928
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: safety or there's third safety, that kind of stuff. They

929
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: need to know all of that. But if and if

930
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're not gonna go to training camp

931
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys, I don't know how you

932
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: find new guys to play in the league. You know,

933
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: you got Dawson Knox sitting on the sidelines. He's a

934
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: pretty good player. And if if you're not going to

935
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: give him a chance to make the team and you

936
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: release him, some other team who's down to tight end's

937
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick him up, and you're gonna lose a really

938
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: good player because he had the bad luck of him

939
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: having a hamstring. Same thing with a player who comes

940
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: out and for whatever reason doesn't get enough opportunities, or

941
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: his opportunities aren't as as good as they could have

942
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: been or he or he gets hurt at the wrong time. Whatever,

943
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: whatever the reason, he goes on to have a pretty

944
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: good career someplace else. Either you have so much depth

945
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: at that position that you can't work him in, or

946
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: he just can't contribute in other ways. Yeah, you've got

947
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: to find a way to try players, give players an

948
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to make your squad. The preseason is the only

949
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: time you can do it. I said this yesterday. I'm

950
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a big fan if the money is

951
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: what it is. You know, I don't know why the

952
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: players disappear for you know, as long as they do

953
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: in the offseason, I don't have any problem getting them healthy,

954
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: no question about it. But there's no reason to come

955
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: in and say why you can't bring in prospects and

956
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: get your coaches on the field with twenty five guys

957
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: who were not on your team last year and run

958
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: them through, see if they're good, Run them through some drills,

959
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: run them through some practices, let them, let them put

960
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: some some gear on and see if they can handle

961
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: it physically and mentally, and have some offseason work with

962
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: some players that weren't on your team last year. There's

963
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. To me. We're right back there

964
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: where we were yesterday, trying to find the solution, a

965
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: solution to the NFL's preseason issues. We'll continue that as

966
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the show moves along. We want to interview what are

967
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: you looking for tonight? Who are you looking for tonight?

968
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: In preseason game number three? And we got Mike Lodis

969
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: standing body to join us. Five years played defensive line

970
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, went on to win a couple

971
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls with the Denver Broncos. Lives in this area,

972
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: is going to join us live on set when we return.

973
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: Come on back, Steve after John Murphy, One Bill Live

974
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: presented by Cold of Health. We're in from Michigan and

975
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Bufalo Bill's Radio Network. Stories Update

976
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: update from our show in Detroit, Michigan. The Buffalo Bills

977
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: are here getting set to play the Detroit Lions eight

978
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: o'clock kick off tonight for the game at Ford Field

979
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: in downtown Detroit. Nowhere down how long the Bill starters

980
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: might go. Nowhere done, whether the Detroit lines will go

981
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: at all with their starting quarterback Matthew Stafford. We got

982
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: the game, doll coming up at eight o'clock on our

983
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: flagship in Buffalo, w GR Sports Radio five fiftel. I'll

984
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: have the call of the game with Eric Wood and

985
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: Sal Capacho. That's coming up tonight at eight Carolina. There's

986
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: there cautiously optimistic that quarterback Cam Newton will be available

987
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: for a week one of the regular seasons. Injured last

988
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: night in the preseason game as a mild sprain of

989
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: his left foot hurt on the sack in the first

990
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: quarter of Carolina has lost to the Patriots last night.

991
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Doton underwent surgery on his left angled in March twenty fourteen.

992
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: He is thirty years old. Last night, because of the

993
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: field conditions in Winnipeg, Manitoba, the Oakland Raiders and Green

994
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: Bay Packers played on a shorter field. After long conversations

995
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: among NFL officials, Packers and Raiders officials ended with the

996
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: decision that the players should not be in unsafe conditions.

997
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: The playing field has reduced to eighty yards, with each

998
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: ten yard line serving as the goalposts. That actually happened

999
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: last night. Balmore Ravens are gonna sign Venter and in

1000
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: sign linebacker Paul Warlow to a contract contingent on him

1001
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: passing the physical. The Ravens have won sixteen consecutive games

1002
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: in preseason. They won last night twenty six to fifteen

1003
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: over the Philadelphia Eagles, the longest such preseason street in

1004
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: the NFL and at least twenty five years. And the

1005
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Bis open up a seven game homestand tonight their final

1006
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: home game of the year. The Hurt got cloppard last

1007
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: night in Rochester. They lost twenty to three of the

1008
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Red Wings last night. Tonight, Craig Revet throws out the

1009
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: first pitch, but right hand er Connor Fisk is the

1010
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: starter for Buffalo unless Revet showed some serious smoke bides

1011
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: into Plawtucket seven or five tonight, first pitch at Salem

1012
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: Field in downtown Buffalo. And that is the update from

1013
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: Troy Michigan. Go on Great Time watchte Casper n Techstown,

1014
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: Buckstown Back Downstaubo Time Bug back from the Troy Carry,

1015
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Troy Mixtever Road and Troy Michigan. John rab Kniel with

1016
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: the specialom gaest headed heav Michigan data your head of

1017
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: the music. Yeah, Mike born and raised Team Bro. How'd

1018
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: you get out to UCLA? Excuse me? Well, that's a

1019
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: funny story because when I got recruited in the eight

1020
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: late midday. At late eighties, you were allowed five trips.

1021
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: So I took up to Michigan and UCLA and Michigan State,

1022
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go out to Boston to go

1023
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: check out Boston College in North Carolina Chapel Hill, but

1024
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't going there. I just wanted a

1025
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: free trip. It was UCLA or Michigan. And I was

1026
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: a native of Michigan. And you know, my coach was

1027
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: a Spartan fan, and the Spartans weren't that good under

1028
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: George Purlis at that time. And my dad played at

1029
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and I didn't even go to Notre Dame

1030
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: that you know, Jerry Fouts was there and it was

1031
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: kind of a bad deal. But long story short, I

1032
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: ended up going out to UCLA because we had a

1033
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: little bit of a setback at the house and you know,

1034
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: my parents got divorced, and I thought, you know, I'm

1035
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna go into Michigan. You gonna play for bow Get

1036
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have to get my schooling done and

1037
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: be half hour away from there. You know, I don't know,

1038
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: maybe I should go to UCLA. They won two Rose

1039
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: Bowls in a Fiesta Bowl the three years before and

1040
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: then so I said, you know, I d committed bow

1041
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: and I went to UH. Ucla was extremely tough. He was.

1042
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: He was a very very uh dedicated guy. And at

1043
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: that time Gary Moeller was the guy recruiting me. And

1044
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: you know when I d committed, Bo came up there

1045
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: two or three times. And I'll never forget this. He

1046
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: sat in my parents, my dad's chair. Uh go figure right,

1047
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: and those little Louisville slugger bats back in the day.

1048
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: You know, he had one next to the for some reason,

1049
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: we had one there and he just put it in

1050
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: his hand. He started hitting his palm like you're a

1051
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Michigan guy. You're never gonna play out there. You need

1052
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: to come here. You know, this is you know, for

1053
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: the lack of a better term, you can imagine the

1054
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: the the the cuss words he was said. But the

1055
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: cell he gave me, the hard cell. But at the

1056
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: end of the day, um, I just said, seventeen years old,

1057
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: I just said I'm going to UCLA. So I wanted

1058
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: to play in the Rose Bowl game. And back then

1059
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: that there was no BCS. It was the winner of

1060
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: the Pac ten versus the Big ten. It was the

1061
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: right move. It was. And I hate to say this

1062
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: to all my Buffalo Bills fans, but m D line

1063
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: coach Greg Robinson at UCLA went to the Jets the

1064
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: same time I came to Buffalo with you, and they

1065
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: tried to trade for me there, and thank god they

1066
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: didn't because I didn't want to be coached by him

1067
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: anymore at that time because I just had him for

1068
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: five years. And then long story short, he ended up

1069
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: being the decordinator at the Broncos, and I took a

1070
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: trip to Tampa and the Broncos and the Lions, and

1071
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: I chose the Broncos and we won two Super Bowls.

1072
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: Terry Donahue, Okay, yeah, Terry Downey, he was there a

1073
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: long time. Led to Darry coach pac ten coach. Now

1074
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: it's Pack twelve. But wow, these are bringing back some name.

1075
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah the day we're old. Yeah, all right, Mike Lodis

1076
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: played with the Bills. What a couple of Super bowls

1077
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: with Denver. He joins us here. You live not far

1078
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: away in Birmingham as I do. I live about ten

1079
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: minutes away, and uh, you know, it's ironic that you

1080
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: guys came to stay in Troy. I thought for sure

1081
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: you guys would be downtown to get away from all

1082
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: this construction out here in Detroit. Man, it's it's pretty bad.

1083
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: So plan ahead for the trip to the stadium. Let

1084
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: me tell you that I got it. I got like

1085
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: turned around so many times coming here last night, Robin

1086
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: for more tru Park last night, and the last half

1087
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: hour here was the toughest. It's it's it's it's a

1088
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: challenge now. And they're going to start a third phase

1089
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: on I seventy five, which you'll see, and that's going

1090
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: to wreck the traffic even more so. Man, Now it's

1091
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: okay though. Yeah, So let me say you, you've done

1092
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff since you left the game. Do

1093
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: you how you know? How much do you like sit

1094
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: home on a Sunday afternoon? How who do you follow?

1095
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: How do you how do you know? It's funny that

1096
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: you asked me this, because I'm the type of guy

1097
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: that when I'm done with something, I'm done with something,

1098
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: and and you know, it's hard for me to get

1099
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: involved when I can't be on the field, you know.

1100
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: And then it's like I studied probam with God for

1101
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: five years and now I have a hip issue and

1102
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I can't do it, and they want me to come

1103
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: back and do this. I can't do it. It's either

1104
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: all or nothing for me. And but do I enjoy

1105
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: watching the game still? I do enjoy it? Do I

1106
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: Am I jealous of the contracts? Now? Absolutely? We were

1107
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: talking about the numbers on our kind. We were listening

1108
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: a couple of zeros, I bet, you know, and I

1109
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: did pretty well, and I saved my money and I'm okay,

1110
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's I'm not certainly set for life, but

1111
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty I'm in good shape. But at the

1112
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's good to see the game progressing.

1113
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: It's good to see, you know, New York trying to

1114
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: make the game better for the players and that sort

1115
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: of thing. Now, I know I've heard from guys in

1116
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: my era. Uh my good buddy, Steve Attware and I

1117
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Atwater and I talked, and we all know the Christian

1118
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: NIKOI a Steve Atwater meeting at the goal line, or

1119
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: at not the goal line, but the line of scrimmage.

1120
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: Steve Atwater I don't think could play the game at

1121
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: safety taking somebody's head off anymore. He would be fine,

1122
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: way too much. You'd get kicked out of games and

1123
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: he gets suspended. Yeah, and you know, it really is

1124
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: a different game. I think still internally in the trenches,

1125
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: it's still a tough game, you know. I mean it's

1126
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: obviously you're you're going live and it's like, you know,

1127
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get cut from the backside anymore. And

1128
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: we benefited from that when we played sev on the

1129
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: d line. But the game is great, But I don't

1130
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: really followed his which is you know, people would think, um,

1131
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I do follow Buffalo and Denver just checking in here

1132
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: and there on the on the smartphones now. Um. But uh,

1133
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, as long as the game keeps progressing and

1134
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: things move on and the wealth of the game increases,

1135
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: hopefully that gives a better opportunity for the guys that

1136
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: need it later in life. If somebody wants to understand

1137
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: how the physicality of the game has changed, go back

1138
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: and look at pictures. Even to me, I was covering

1139
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: kicks and stuff, and you I was playing wide receiver.

1140
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: Go back and look at the shoulder pads players war

1141
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: Back in the day, they were big picture Jack Lambert,

1142
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: the big flat square shoulders, and now the shoulder pads

1143
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: for everybody are are very tight or tighter fitting. In

1144
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: fact that you go out and watch offensive line play,

1145
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: you have to look real close to see whether they're

1146
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: wearing their pads or whether they've got shells on. Yeah,

1147
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: it's it's that tight of fitting. That's how different the

1148
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: game has been played. And they and they've legislated that

1149
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: out of the game. Yeah, you know they have, and

1150
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: and and again that goes to protecting the guys and

1151
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: trying to keep the game. And we got to protect

1152
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: game too with the younger kids coming up because they're

1153
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: going to be the future of the NFL as well.

1154
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: But to be honest with you, the ferocity of the

1155
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: game has been taken out a lot compared to when

1156
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: we played. And that's not to say that hey, we're

1157
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: any better or were any tougher. You know, we might

1158
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: think we're a little tougher and relative to that era,

1159
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: but you know, there's some tough guys out there and

1160
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: they're busting their butts and it's still it's still a

1161
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: game that can cripple you for life, it really is.

1162
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: And and you know, you could make a wrong tackle,

1163
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: you can accidentally come in with your head down, break

1164
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: your neck and being a wheelchair like Nick Boncani's son

1165
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: and other people that have suffered from that. So so

1166
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: the ferocity isn't completely out, but they've reduced it and

1167
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: they've protected. You know, this is a funny analogy. I

1168
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: look at this when I look at my four oh

1169
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: one k or I look at my investments, right, I go,

1170
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: I go, okay, I'll take this portion of high risk. Right,

1171
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: So high risk means you get better return. The quarterback

1172
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: is in a high risk position, but he makes all

1173
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: the money, So why did we reduce that risk? You know?

1174
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: That to me is like, wait a minute, he's the

1175
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: guy that I have to stop. I got to bring

1176
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: him down. If I accidentally roll on his bad knee

1177
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: and hurt it even more and he can't play, Oh

1178
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: well sorry, we're in a better position, but you're not

1179
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: trying to hurt anybody purposely. But to me, I just

1180
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: think that, you know, it's gone a little bit different

1181
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: philosophically for me because I'm an interior d lineman and

1182
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm a you know, want to hit people and that

1183
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But at the end of the day,

1184
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: I still think it's a great game. The teams are

1185
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: over a billion dollars now each one. I mean, what's

1186
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: the cheapest team The Bills got bought for one point

1187
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: five Dallas is worth almost five billion dollars. I mean,

1188
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: I remember when he played Sey what the Bills were

1189
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: withth seven hundred million. Yeah, so it's great and hopefully

1190
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: everything will be there for our retirements when we decided

1191
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: to take our retirements. My votus joint US Bills former

1192
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Bills defensive lineman lives in this area, not too far

1193
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: away from us. I want to hear more about the

1194
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: ferocity of the game. I want to hear some stories

1195
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: about interesting, fierce it was, well it was, and tell

1196
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: you a perfect example before they changed the no cut rule.

1197
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: When you're engaged, I played nose guard. I was in

1198
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: a three technique or in a three four defense in Buffalo,

1199
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: or in a four to three in Denver. I still

1200
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: shaded the center. When the one technique or Buffalo, I

1201
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: had to go head up and called it a zero.

1202
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: If I'm head up with him and he scoots to

1203
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: his left or scoots to his right, I have to

1204
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: mirror that movement. So now I'm engaged with this guy.

1205
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: The guard could come down and double team me and

1206
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: roll me while I'm engaged. So that's worse, right, the

1207
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: ferocity of a guy coming across the middle and getting

1208
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: blown up where we always call it, Oh he's holding

1209
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: the coke can. He just got knocked out. You know

1210
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: when you hold the co can like that, you know,

1211
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: guys would you know, and that energized your team, you know,

1212
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know when Leonard Smith would

1213
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: knock somebody you know stiff, you know, you're like, there

1214
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: we go. You know, offense gets jacked up, you know,

1215
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: or you know, somebody runs somebody over and blows somebody

1216
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: up up. Or Bruce comes in and makes a sweet

1217
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: tackle and arm rips the ball out and slams him down.

1218
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: But it's just in his inertia and his movement and

1219
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: he gets hurt. Hey, sorry, man, this is the game

1220
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: of football, you know. So it's it's a different atmosphere,

1221
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: it's a different attitude because when we played, we didn't

1222
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: have to really think about anything we were doing. If

1223
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: we were making a tackle, you hit him anywhere, high, low, sideways,

1224
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: top of the helmet, crown on, just get him down

1225
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: and inflict as much punishment as you could. You that

1226
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: was part of the game. Now the defenders are it's

1227
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: not like that. They have to have a mindset going

1228
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: in where they say, Okay, what am I allowed to

1229
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: How am I allowed to hit him? Where I gotta

1230
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, I've got to go in. I can hit

1231
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: him as hard as I can, but I can't hit

1232
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: him to inflict the most damage or with you or

1233
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: with your face or the top of your helmet, right,

1234
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,959
Speaker 1: And so it's to me. And I'm sure these guys

1235
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: now are probably getting to the point where it's maybe

1236
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: second nature for them now. But for us it would

1237
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: have been an entirely new skill set to learn. I

1238
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: think it would have crippled somebody's career. That was a

1239
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: hell of a corner or safety the way that the

1240
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: physical guy that played, because I know when a ball

1241
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: carry came through, I tried to make a tackle by

1242
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: you know how you took your picture seven when you

1243
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: boat your neck. You know that was a joke back

1244
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: in the day. You did that to tackle. You wanted

1245
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: to have big traps in, a big neck and big

1246
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: shoulders like Shane had. Kyle Lendy, I mean, he was

1247
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: a beast and you wanted to drive through him. With

1248
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: your face. Now you do that. I mean, I got

1249
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: a picture in my phone where I'm sacking Carry Collins

1250
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: from the Jacksonville excuse me, from the Carolina Panthers back

1251
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: in like ninety eight, and my two screws on my

1252
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: helmet or right on the side of his jaw. And

1253
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I laugh because I showed that to everybody.

1254
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: I say, this is he's getting me kicked out of

1255
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: the game and a forty thousand dollars or thirty thousand

1256
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: or fine or whatever sitting down. You're sitting down for

1257
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: four weeks. You're four weeks no pay, you know. And

1258
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: that would change the game because the speed of the

1259
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: game even today is probably faster. Ye, but you you

1260
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: had no time to think. It was react, get off

1261
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: the block and go to the ball. You know, you

1262
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: have no time to think. Now they have to think,

1263
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: so that changes the tempo. Mike Lotus joins us Bill's

1264
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: tenth round pick out of UCLA in nineteen ninety and

1265
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: you came to a Buffalo team that was, let's face it,

1266
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: they were loaded. Now they needed you because they had

1267
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Wright right in front of you and Freddie. They

1268
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: did well. Freddie left, he went to San Francisco and

1269
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: Jeff took over the starting position. And when I came in,

1270
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: they drafted a guy named fred Derigi in the seventh

1271
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: round from Syracuse. If you remember that, you not remember that,

1272
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: And and well he didn't last very long, thank thanks

1273
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: to me. But no, you know, no pad on the back.

1274
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: But but then they had Drell Marshall was a gentleman

1275
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: out of USC. I played against Darell. He's a big

1276
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: wide body, you know, for a three to four. I

1277
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: can't believe I made it because a three four, two

1278
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pound nose tackle is no longer ever, Yeah,

1279
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: there's three seventy's right, you know. And so at the

1280
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: end of the day, I came into the bickering bills.

1281
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: I remember my first mini camp. We went up to

1282
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: the press box that's where we held it, and I

1283
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: remember Marv talking about Vick Carrucci and Vic was writing

1284
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: some stuff but I don't know. And I didn't know

1285
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: anything about the Howard Ballard thing, Jim and all that

1286
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: until and I was like, oh my god. And then

1287
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: I called it the Bermuda Triangle. And I love these

1288
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: guys to death because I went to war with them,

1289
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: but it was Thurman over here. Then there was the hallway,

1290
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: and then Bruce, and I was next to Bruce, and

1291
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: Cornelius was up there. So I called it the Bermuda Triangle.

1292
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: They would go they would go at it. And then

1293
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: ye had Darryl Meximie, Rodney Dangerfield. He got no respect,

1294
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, but it was a character. It was what

1295
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: they had six Hall of Fame, Well you're gonna be

1296
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: number seven. Had five players on the team. We were

1297
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer James Law number six, so it's coming.

1298
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was James, Bruce, Thurman, Andre

1299
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: Jim and and all of those guys were, I mean

1300
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: stellar players, you know. I mean here I am fighting

1301
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: a third team and I got Chuck Dickerson. We all

1302
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: remember the coach. I don't even know if Chuck's alive

1303
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: or what's he doing now. I'd love to know. But

1304
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: he really gave me an opportunity, and really Bruce, going

1305
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: back to UCLA, I played a three four and I

1306
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: played a five technique in a UCLA. And when Bruce

1307
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: went down, remember he had the knee and he didn't play,

1308
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: they gave me the starting position for the first preseason

1309
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: game against the Giants in nineteen ninety and I made

1310
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: two tackles for no gain, And of course Ralph Wilson

1311
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: wore that blue suit with the red tie all the time, right,

1312
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: And he came down and he called me brother Rice

1313
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: because that's the high school I went, because he's from Gross. Yeah, yeah,

1314
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I got you, brother Rice. Nice job on those two tackles.

1315
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going, oh my god, the owner

1316
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: of the team. You know, I'm not supposed to make that,

1317
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, So things just fell into place and it

1318
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: worked out and I was able to do what we

1319
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: call it, whatever you can do, right, I can play five,

1320
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: I can play no's, I can let's talk about that.

1321
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we're sitting here in the middle of this

1322
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: big discussion about the preseason and how you know, we're

1323
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: pooh pooing it as it's you know, nobody played thought

1324
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: that I on. It's so many things wrong when he's

1325
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: different and it's different. But for you, you remember those

1326
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: preseason games with that was my season, right, That was

1327
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: how I was making the team period. Yeah, and you

1328
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: did it a year every year I had to do it.

1329
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: They were always looking to get rid of me. I

1330
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: was the tenth round undersized kid that you know, let's

1331
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: get rid of them. And I did everything in my

1332
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: power to have them. Look on the board in the

1333
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: war room, go, we just can't cut them. We just

1334
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: we gotta have them. And so that was the you know,

1335
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: my motor and where I lacked maybe some fluidity with

1336
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: my body movement like Bruce has. I had some strength,

1337
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: I had some brains. You know, I did everything in

1338
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: my power and you know, listen to the call or

1339
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: if I can hear something, I'm on it. You know,

1340
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: don't let me hear the snap count, you know. So

1341
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: but today I'm seeing all these teams. They're sitting there starters,

1342
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: like thirty guys, they're not playing. That would never ever happen.

1343
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: In the beginning. You would play more in the preseason

1344
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: as a backup, and as the season preseason went along,

1345
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: you'd play a little bit less until the last game

1346
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: and then they'd probably give you the half. But I

1347
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: remember you guys, the starters on offense, and just remembering

1348
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: this end defense. First series, first game, second game, first quarter,

1349
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: maybe quarter and a half, you know, third game, full

1350
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: half and maybe into the third quarter and pull them,

1351
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, and now they're just you know, I don't

1352
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's for injury sake or for potential injury issues,

1353
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: because the salaries are off the charts now, you know.

1354
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, a free agent doesn't get a signing bonus

1355
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: makes all seventeen weeks is almost five hundred grand. I mean,

1356
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: God bless him. Good for you. That's a rookie free agent.

1357
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: That's a rookie undrafted free agent. Yeah, I mean, that's

1358
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: that's impressive, you know, And it's but they it's the

1359
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: game has evolved a long way, both on the field

1360
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: and you know, in the locker rooms and the you know,

1361
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: what they're expected to do and what what When you

1362
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: look back, what do you what do you remember about

1363
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: your six Super Bowls? Well, if we've talked about the previous,

1364
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you those. You know, I have a very

1365
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: big place in my heart for the Buffalo Bills. Okay,

1366
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: I played more with the Ronco's, but Chuck Dickerson and

1367
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: Walt Corey and Marv and Bill Polian and um uh,

1368
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: they gave me an opportunity in the league. And so

1369
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: I take my hat off and to have played on

1370
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: teams alongside of you and John you were there. We

1371
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: went to four Super Bowls in a row, and everybody says, well,

1372
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: you didn't win one. I take more grief for that.

1373
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have as well. But the power that

1374
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: that team had was amazing. I mean, but I also

1375
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: the power of that team was also its demise. I

1376
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: think they were too good. We were too good, and

1377
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: we had attitude, and we had ego, and we couldn't

1378
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: keep the ego in check. And we all had it,

1379
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, even you, the nicest guy in you

1380
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: and kel even even Kelso had a little attitude and

1381
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: he's the nicest guy in the world, you know. But

1382
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: but it was we were rock stars, Murph. We were,

1383
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: and we were in a small town. We were in

1384
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: the smallest market in the NFL. One of you. I mean. So,

1385
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: to me, the benefit of playing with the Buffalo Bills

1386
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: is an absolute blessing. And the Twelfth Man was a blessing.

1387
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say one story. Miami Dolphins came into

1388
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: town in December and I about just fell apart watching

1389
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: the Snowballs go to the boat. The buses get me

1390
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: pagged when I'm driving into the stadium. I'm like, only

1391
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: in Buffalo what this happened. I mean, it was awesome.

1392
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: What was different in Denver and winning those two Super Bowls? Well,

1393
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: you know as well. I don't want to be a

1394
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: guy to point fingers, right, but I think I'm a

1395
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: good guy to ask that question because I bet on

1396
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: both sides of the seesaw right. I personally think that

1397
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: the challenges that we had with our ego is really

1398
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: what set us apart, you know, the five hall of

1399
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: You know, we all saw the thirty for thirty right,

1400
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: and they put it on the table, and so did you, Steve.

1401
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: We were immature, we were We thought our s didn't stink.

1402
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: You know. We thought that we could go into the

1403
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and have four overnights, the first four overnights

1404
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: with no curfew. And we had some some dudes and

1405
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: I was one of them. We'd like to drink, we'd

1406
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: like to go out and have a good time. We'd

1407
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: like to you know, and maybe we were super Bowl

1408
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: If you can't fund right, right, Well, there's a slip

1409
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: side to that coin, right, there's the business sense. So

1410
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: you asked John, what's the difference. I think it was

1411
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: our mistake to allow us to have that much free

1412
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: time because We should have been sequestered, We should have

1413
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: been tunnel vision focused. We have one goal here, to

1414
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: win this game, and then after the game, we're gonna

1415
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: light it up, okay. And that's what Mike Shanahan said

1416
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: to us. He said, guess what you know. I mean

1417
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: nights you're going out none eleven o'clock curfew. The only

1418
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: night he gave us off was Sunday night. No one's there,

1419
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, nothing's going on. So so, and we were

1420
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the locker room. We had

1421
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: better chemistry amongst the guys. And I don't want to

1422
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: say that because you know, I love you like a brother, Steve.

1423
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: You know, there wasn't a lot of of camaraderie with

1424
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: the guys. There was more finger pointing, it seemed like.

1425
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: And we saw the thirty four thirty. So I'm not

1426
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm not putting out anything that wouldn't sell anybody out

1427
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: or anything. I'm not going to name names or any

1428
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: of that, but we all know who the guys are.

1429
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: And when your leadership in your locker room is not

1430
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: doing what they need to do off the field and

1431
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: in the locker room. On the field, those guys performed,

1432
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: you know, clearly we went to four super Bowls, but

1433
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: there has to be you know what I'm saying. You

1434
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: said that on the chemistry of all the great teams

1435
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: seems to be a constant. It is and and it was.

1436
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: It was a big part of that team why it

1437
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: was successful. And ultimately you're saying too, it was just

1438
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: a little bit short, fell short of what it needed

1439
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: to be done. This this uh Buffalo Bill staff has

1440
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: gone made wide reaching efforts to make this a really

1441
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: close knit group. In fact, that's what everybody we have,

1442
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: all these guys on here that said, you know, that's

1443
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: been the difference in this team from any team they've

1444
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: been on, is the fact that it's a very close

1445
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: knit group. Now, my question is this seems a concerted

1446
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: effort to do that, and the teams that I've seen

1447
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: in other places, it's been kind of organic, you know

1448
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yes, they did it because it just

1449
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: they clicked. Do you think it can be done both ways?

1450
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: I think anything's possible, right. I mean, again, it starts

1451
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: at the leadership, and everybody says, since I'm in Detroit,

1452
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Detroit Lions. This is a sort

1453
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: of an analogy of comparison, right. And I don't want

1454
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: to be the guy to point the finger at the

1455
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: Ford family, but I played for two owners that basically

1456
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: said to me to my face, we don't want to

1457
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: get there. We want to win the super Bowl. And

1458
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: it starts at the Apex, right, So coach McDermott, that's

1459
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: his last time, right, Coach McDermott. It starts with you.

1460
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: You're the Apex. You have to create the community. If

1461
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: you will, you have to environment. You have to create

1462
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 1: the environment, and you have to demand it with rules

1463
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: and regulations, and if you violate those, it's it's not

1464
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: tolerable whether you're the top dog or you're the backup

1465
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: d tackle like me. It the rules have to be

1466
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: the same for everybody, and no one gets a free

1467
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: pass because you're Jim Kelly, or you're Bruce Smith or

1468
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: you're Thurman Thomas. That's absolute kaka, you know. And I

1469
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: just I met him, and he seems like he's got

1470
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Speaker 1: his head on his shoulders. And I watched the guys

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01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 1: in the in the coach ermotor Coach McDermot. Yeah, McDermott,

1472
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: I saw. I just met him over there because I

1473
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: thought you guys were over there where that the team is,

1474
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: and and I said, introduced myself to a couple of guys,

1475
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to pillage a Buffalo Bill's T shirt

1476
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: from the equipment guys. So but yeah, it might fit me. John.

1477
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: I'm a little bigger than I was when I played.

1478
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: But I think it can be done, Steve. I just

1479
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: think in order to get there, you have to be

1480
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: as a football player and a eMate. You have to

1481
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: be a teammate. You know, you're already a football player,

1482
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: but how good are you as a teammate? Like a

1483
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: sevy don't worry about that mistackle and he ran to

1484
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: the house. Forget about a dude, we love you. You're

1485
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna get out there. You're one of the best, coming

1486
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: from a guy that doesn't even know. We love you. Man.

1487
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of that. And when guys,

1488
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: you know, they were finger pointing, and that's a problem,

1489
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: and that will permeate. That's cancer, right, It'll it'll spread

1490
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: and people will get attitude, and people will be angry

1491
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: and resentful to that person and almost be like give

1492
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: you the bird in your mind, you know, and like

1493
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: that's that's bad football is I think that spreads faster

1494
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: than any other sport because you you're asking guys to

1495
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: physically go through some discomfort for each other. That's right,

1496
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: and that's hard to ask. And that's why that's why

1497
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: that's a team. Say, that's right, that's the great. You

1498
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 1: look at all the great teams that have won the

1499
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I guarantee you like New England, Tom Brady.

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady doesn't go to nine super Bowls

1501
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: without without Belichick. That's the That's what I believe. Does

1502
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: Belichick go to the super Bowl without Tom Brady? Yeah,

1503
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think nine times, you know, So that

1504
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: combination is great. But when you saw them at the

1505
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby, he ranted a plane, he brought all the tea,

1506
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: bought his boys. I mean, they're just there. The Bob

1507
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: Kraft put that, you know, just like Pat Bolland did

1508
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: you know? And and and Ralph wasn't really in tune.

1509
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: He let Bill Polian and Marv run the whole show

1510
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: there and we had a great run for six six

1511
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: seven years, a couple years before I got there and

1512
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,839
Speaker 1: then the four years I was there. But it's possible,

1513
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: but it has to start at the top and the

1514
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: Detroit team. It's not started at the top. And look,

1515
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay can go to a Super Bowl and win.

1516
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: Bob Kraft bought the new England Pigs. We used to

1517
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: go to Foxboro and mop them up. It was a

1518
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: guaranteed win. You know, things can change if the management

1519
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: and upper echelon wants it to be done. Like Lotus

1520
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: played in four Super Bowls with the Bills, one two

1521
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: with Denver. Does the joy and exhilaration of those two

1522
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl victories make up for the disappointment of losing

1523
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: for a resolutely does? Because I mean, I'd rather hear that.

1524
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: It really does. I mean, and especially to go back

1525
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: to back, to be part of that, and to be

1526
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: part of back to back to back to back losses,

1527
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: You're still part of a historical situation, you know, and

1528
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: you try to look at it like the glasses half full.

1529
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: And sure, you know, everybody says, oh, Scotty Norwood, and

1530
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: I get on people, I go, don't you ever blame

1531
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: Scotty Norwood Because we could blame Thurman for not cutting

1532
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: into the middle of the field. We could blame the

1533
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: defense for being on the field for thirteen minutes in

1534
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and given Hostetler all that time. I mean,

1535
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 1: we can there's the finger pointing again. You know, No,

1536
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: you're a teammate. You grab him and you hug him,

1537
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: just like Darrell did and everybody did that first one

1538
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: and and you know that kind of and I said

1539
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: to talk about this, if we win, if that kick

1540
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: goes through, we don't go to three more. I don't know.

1541
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if you might your team might break

1542
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: up because you know, you didn't have free agency. You know,

1543
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: you had to plan B I think or whatever it was,

1544
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: and you could protect so many guys, but then other

1545
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 1: guys go out and you know, check out other deals.

1546
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: But you know, I look forward to you know, I

1547
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: like the start of the season, but the middle of

1548
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: the season's kind of tough. You know. I like watching

1549
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: football during the playoffs. Yeah, that's the funnest time for

1550
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: me as a retired guy. When we were the break before,

1551
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: you were looking at my spotting board for tonight's game.

1552
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: You did a little broadcast work, you said, I did.

1553
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: I did a little podcast work. I was a color

1554
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: analyst for Fox. Uh. You know, like we all try

1555
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: to get out of football and whatever sports and sev

1556
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: you've done a great job man with CBS. It's great

1557
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: to see on TV. And you know, it's a lot

1558
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: harder than you actually think because you literally have someone

1559
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: talking in your ear, like I heard them talking when

1560
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: you were reading that stuff, and that used to derail

1561
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: me and I would it was hard. The first thing

1562
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 1: you do is listen, yeah, you stop, yeah, and they're like,

1563
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: stop using outstanding. Stop you you're using it too many times. Okay,

1564
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: I gotta come up with a different word, you know so.

1565
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: But it was fun. I did it for a couple

1566
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: of years and I got a chance to go to Europe,

1567
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: but it wasn't for me. Last time we talked to

1568
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: you a couple of years ago on our show, you

1569
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: had a business and successful business, sound peanut Brittle. Well,

1570
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: it's a good, great idea. It was a great I

1571
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: never got a sample, by the way, I know, I know,

1572
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. It lasted five years and I

1573
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: had to put it down. We made money I made.

1574
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: It was a sixteen thousand dollars investment and I closed

1575
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: out at about eighty grand in the account, so I

1576
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: made money. It was sweat equity that paid me back.

1577
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: But I learned a lot. I learned how to run

1578
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: a business. Do the sales, do the marketing, find the

1579
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: place to cook it. But ultimately, peanut brittle is a

1580
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: seasonal thing. And frankly, you know, I did, okay play football,

1581
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: but I needed cash flow, so I needed to go

1582
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: to work nine to five. What are you doing? So

1583
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: I worked for a company called Midland Tool and yeah, yeah,

1584
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm this is my lunch break here, so I'm getting

1585
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 1: back out of the road. So thanks for having me.

1586
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: But I saw industrial and construction tools, so personal protection stuff, safety,

1587
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: all safety. I'll you know, Milwaukee to wal Matabo, McKee

1588
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: to all that stuff. And I'm doing the I seventy

1589
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: five project with Walsh Toby, so you know, I've done

1590
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: several hundred thousand dollars with them in the last three months.

1591
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's not just it's a great job for

1592
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: a X football player, because I'm dealing with all these

1593
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: construction superintendents and they love football. So the bonding of

1594
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: being in sales is really it's all about the relationship

1595
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: John and Steve, you know that, right, So if they

1596
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: trust you and you get them their stuff on time

1597
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: and it's right, they're gonna stay with you. They're very loyal.

1598
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: So I've managed to really develop some good relationships with

1599
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: the big construction companies in Detroit. And I'm making more

1600
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: money now than I did my first year in the league.

1601
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: So so I'm okay, everything's good, you know. And it's

1602
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: not really a high bar I made. Just to tell her,

1603
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: but I made sixty five thousand dollars salary nineteen ninety

1604
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: and eleven thousand signing bonus. So just goes to show

1605
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: you the minimum at five hundred now for these undrafted

1606
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: free agents is it's amazing. You know what. Though for me,

1607
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm good for them, you know, yeah, for them, I'm

1608
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: not hating. I don't hate the game either of them.

1609
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: Good for them because I know I made twenty five

1610
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: forty percent more than the guys twenty years before me.

1611
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: So it's just it's the way. It is. Great. You're

1612
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: doing well. It's great to catch up. Yeah, it's really

1613
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: good man. Thanks for stopping by. Thanks Buffalo. I appreciate

1614
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: the five years and you guys the twelfth Man, you're

1615
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: the best. Thanks. Mike Lodish played with the Bills of

1616
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl run, joining us here in Detroit. Stephen

1617
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: I coming back with more one Bills Live. This is

1618
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, John Murphy's d tasker back

1619
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: in our hotel location to Detroit, Marryott in Troy, Michigan.

1620
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: Where on Big Beaver Road in Troy, Michigan. Mikelodash lives

1621
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: right around the corner in Bloomington, Uh, Michigan. Did he

1622
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: see Bloomington? Is that? What it is? Bloomington? What is it? Birmingham? Birmingham, Michigan.

1623
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the truth. I enjoyed that as much

1624
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: as any inter you we've done in a long time.

1625
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: And he's got great vivid memories of your super Bowl,

1626
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: and he's got opinions that was about as good as

1627
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: it gets my vote. And his experience as a pro

1628
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: football players unparalleled because of his you know, his experience

1629
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: in the Big Game, ending it and losing yep, and

1630
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: and the differences between the teams that one of the

1631
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: teams that didn't win it, his experiences with um, you know,

1632
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: since he's played in the NFL, and and the reactions

1633
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: he gets to the teams that he was on his

1634
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 1: road to the NFL and he well, he admitted it.

1635
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: You know, he's a tenth round pick he probably didn't

1636
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: belong on a on a Super Bowl roster, but there

1637
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: he was with the Bills four years in a row. Yeah,

1638
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean he was. I think they had no seed ninety.

1639
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: They must have had eleven or twelve rounds then, and

1640
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: he was a tenth round pick probably twelve, probably two

1641
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth player picked or something like that, and

1642
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: came to Buffalo, who had been who was about to

1643
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: go to its first Super Bowl? Yeah, first year, first year.

1644
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,520
Speaker 1: What did you make of his comparison between the atmosphere

1645
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: on your Super Bowl teams and the atmosphere of the

1646
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners in Denver? Because one of the things

1647
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: I think about when I think about that team is

1648
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: is how close knit they were and are now here

1649
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Yeah, and I knew too that in

1650
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: that Denver locker room, I figured most teams will tell

1651
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: you have success like they're very close knit. And he

1652
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: noticed some things about their team that were a little

1653
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: different than the Buffalo team. You know, we still probably

1654
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: had some residue in his mind about the bickering Bills

1655
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: because he got here just that as that was done over. Yeah,

1656
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: and uh so there was you know, probably some of

1657
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: that still lingering or some guys from that, but yeah,

1658
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: it his recollection of the team was particularly because he

1659
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: had it to contrast with the Denver teams that he

1660
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: was on. It was, Yeah, it was probably different than

1661
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: a guy's head, and I thought I was fascinated by

1662
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: and he brought it up the ferocity of the game

1663
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: back then when it's a great way to put it.

1664
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: I Alaly said that the ferocity is different. I think

1665
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: it's a there's you can't just fly around and hit people. However,

1666
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: you can hit them, you know. And there really was

1667
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: a level of play when I played all through my

1668
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: career where if you were going to tackle a guy

1669
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: and you had a chance you could, you could hit

1670
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: him as hard as you wanted with whatever part of

1671
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: your body that would inflict the most damage on him.

1672
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: And that's what guys did that that was the way

1673
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: you did it. And uh, even the and I mentioned

1674
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: it when in our interview, the equipment has changed because

1675
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: of that, you know. I I look back and there's

1676
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Speaker 1: football cards with me. I got shoulder pads the size

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: of this table, you know. And uh, it was for

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01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: protection for me hitting people, you know, not for them.

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01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: It was for me. And so the game has changed.

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01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Now you get guys that the shoulder pads are, you know,

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: hardly noticeable sometimes. Did you enjoy that as much as

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01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: I did? Are you sure I like? I like I

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: could have kept going. I liked him a lot. Yeah,

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01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: I liked him as a player. I knew too. That's

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: one of the things I always you know, you heard

1686
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: me say, the guy's got a level of intelligence. That's

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: that's unique. And he's right, and I think one of

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: the things that his life has been guided by. I'm

1689
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: just saying that he is all in whatever he's doing.

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01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I stopped that business because

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: I want to do something else because I got to

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: be all in. I can't have this and that and

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01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: the other thing going. He's I was all in, is

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 1: in the he was all in the bills, he was

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01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: all in, and then when he went to Denver, he's

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01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: all in. And then the things that he did after that,

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01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: he's been He's always all in and everything he does,

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the reason he's been

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: a success. That's where it sounds like Jim Rome. But

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01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. That was great. That was great.

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01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: That was really what a guess. Great to touch myot

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: was great. He's dabbled in a lot of things and

1703
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: he's making candy and stuff. He wasn't he was a player.

1704
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: He handled players agents. Talking about when we had him

1705
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: on the show, it must have been three years ago

1706
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 1: now and he got talking about his peanut brittle business.

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01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 1: Back then, he was all into peanut brittle. Remember this,

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01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Jay Harris ufforters say he was all about peanup riddle,

1709
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: how to get the best panup riddle, what to do

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: with it? How to eat peanut riddle. I mean he

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01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: has abillity to focus. Yeah, and he's he's he's good

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: at life. Yeah, you know that really great? That was great.

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: We gotta get back, we gotta get back on track,

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: and we will. We're gonna talk about what who are

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01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: you looking for tonight? What are you looking for tonight?

1716
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: And what do we do about preseason phone lines open?

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01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: We'll take some of those calls when we come back.

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live presented by Collaida

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01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: Health from Detroit marryoff in Troy, Michigan. And this is

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01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back down, Steve Tanker. It's one

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01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Bill slide presented by Collaida help for at the Detroit

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: Marryott in Troy, Michigan. Right up the road from from Detroit,

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Um and Lotus mentioned about the construction zones out here

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01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: seventy five? Did you get hung up in that last night?

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01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: How did I get mixed up? We had we had

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: a police escort and we were moving people aside and

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01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: we drove straight here for you and Jay yea, beloney,

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 1: you did not what we Yeah, yeah, they had lights flashing. Helooney.

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't escorting where they chasing us. They were

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01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: chasing us. Roads are all torn up, and Lotus is

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: part of it. We didn't run through any of that.

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01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I must have got bad directions. Anyway,

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: we got bills Lions eight o'clock tonight. We want to

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01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: know from you, what are you looking for? In tonight's

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01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: third preseason game, give us a call to discuss eight

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free. He won eight eight

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01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Send it a tweet.

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01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: We might read it on the tweet sheet. The tweet

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01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 1: sheet is brought to you by Corrigan Moving System, the

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01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo bills from the tweet sheet

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: from Tony, Tony's looking for efficient Josh Allen and a

1742
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: very early exit. Continued strong play from the rookies, particularly

1743
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: Singletary Ford, Bam Johnson and Tommy Sweeney. I'll take all

1744
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: of that. All of that continued efficient Josh Allen play.

1745
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't care if he goes deep. I don't care

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01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: if he finds Foster or anybody John Brown deep efficient.

1747
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: I want to see efficiency. I know he's got the

1748
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: capability to get it. We always here's the thing. I mean,

1749
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: what's the thing. We're trying to tell me what thing is? Listen,

1750
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: we all want to see the team get really a

1751
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: whole lot better and come out completely healthy. There you go, right.

1752
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: We want to see everybody have wild success at all,

1753
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: unbridled success on every level, and then get out of

1754
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: it completely healthy. Yes, and throwing a pony too. I

1755
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: want to exactly a unicorn. I want it all just

1756
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: a pony. So there you go. All right? Can I

1757
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: do one more from the tweet cheet, you're gonna dismiss

1758
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: that one too, Go ahead? From Jeremiah. I'd like to

1759
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: see more of Josh Allen and the ones. But I

1760
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: also really want to see Sills easily knocks and Duke,

1761
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: he says, Duke, that's um okay. You can't really have

1762
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: both a lot of play by the ones and get

1763
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: all those guys in. David Sills is not you know,

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: made as Marquet Steven, undrafted rookie free from West Virginia

1765
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Easily I thought a good moments in training camp the

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01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: first week or two. Hasn't done much in a game. Uh.

1767
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, on the other hand, I think as an

1768
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: opportunity here to open the wide receiver question a little

1769
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: bit more, a little wider than it was in the

1770
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: last week's game. I certainly didn't disappoint last week. I mean,

1771
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: last week was his first extended opportunity to play. He

1772
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: made the most of it. Touchdown, blocked well in the

1773
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: run game, a couple of real good catches across the

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: middle in traffic, squeeze the ball tight and turned it

1775
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: up field. He looked good, you know, he looked like

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: what he is, a four year pro and he's you know,

1777
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 1: even though he's a rookie in the NFL, the guy's

1778
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: been playing on his own for a while now, and

1779
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: he's ready to do it. So he's That's what he

1780
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 1: looked like, and we'll see if he can. I'd like

1781
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: to know what their thought are. Do they need to

1782
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: see more? Has he not been consistent in practice? Has

1783
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: he been down in practice and then he gets in

1784
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: the game and flourishes? Is that the kind of player

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01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: he is? It'll be interesting to see what they think

1786
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,560
Speaker 1: they need to see from him. Let's get to the

1787
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: phones for a minute or two. Eskich, you're looking for

1788
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 1: from tonight's game? Paul in ken more on the line, Paul,

1789
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: what do you think? What are you looking to see

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: in tonight's third preseason game? Hey guys, First of all,

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I think point when we kind of muting out, what

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01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: an amazing interview with Mike Lodish Um. The fact that

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01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: he was just a Buffalo guy earned everything he ever,

1794
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, had to. Um, always played hard. I know

1795
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans love him, and that was just amazing. UM.

1796
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: It also surprised me how many old NFL players Um

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01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: still actually have jobs after after the NFL. Um he's

1798
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: doing sales. I know a bunch of other players are

1799
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: also working, which surprised me because athletes these days, there's

1800
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: no way they're working after after the NFL, NBA, whatever.

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01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: But again, what do I mean when did that change?

1802
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Paul, here's the thing. The guy's like,

1803
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I mean, and I certainly no. I

1804
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 1: I've been working for twenty years since I gave it up,

1805
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and and I I got a really nice I had

1806
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: a really nice career. Good career. Uh. It's different now, certainly,

1807
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: but a lot of think about it. I retired when

1808
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: it was thirty five. You gotta do something, you know,

1809
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: most of these guys have something they want to get into.

1810
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: So even if they don't need the paycheck, they certainly

1811
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: want to try and do something. So there's that. And

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01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: then for tonight's game, I was wondering your guys thoughts

1813
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: on Isaiah McKenzie. I really liked the way the Bills

1814
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: used him last year. Where do you think he is?

1815
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: I don't seen it on the bubble, But do you

1816
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 1: think he's more in or more out right now? That's

1817
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: a really good question. I mean, he's you know, it's

1818
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 1: crowded there, Steve, and we're talking again. Here we are

1819
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: again talking about fifth six wide receiver right Brown, Foster,

1820
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Andre Roberts, A Jones, Beasley. That's five. So now you

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01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: got Duke Williams, Isaiah McKenzie, Ray Ray McLeod maybe one

1822
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: of those three maybe what do you think? Yeah, somebody

1823
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: I think there may be behind Beasley Brown, Zay Jones,

1824
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: and I think they like Isaiah Roberts, no question about it,

1825
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Andre Andre Roberts. So there's four they can go possibly

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01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 1: what six at the most, because then you're starting to

1827
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: take if you go six wide receivers, you might only

1828
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: go four tight ends and four running backs. That's when

1829
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: you're starting to get into numbers at the bottoms of

1830
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: the others. Now, will you get more out of the

1831
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver position on offense rather than extra tight end?

1832
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: Does that give you more flexibility? Particularly if you keep

1833
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: DeMarco as a running back who could line up as

1834
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: a wing like a tight end. So there's all that

1835
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: stuff in the mix there. But that's you know, you're

1836
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: talking about two spots tops between what four guys that

1837
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: you're thinking about hanging onto and what can they give

1838
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: you on special teams? And Isaia McKenzie seems to me

1839
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: like Andre Roberts, you know, they seem like the same

1840
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: guy to me. One more call. This portion of the

1841
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: show will go to Alex and Rochester. We were talking

1842
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: about the efficacy of preseason football. Alex, you have a

1843
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: thought on that. Oh yes, thanks for taking my call.

1844
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to call in because I think you had

1845
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: anyone mentioned yesterday that to have no preseason games played,

1846
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 1: I think instead of playing two, they should substitute the

1847
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: two games for two weeks of joint practices with two

1848
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: different teams. And this way, since there's actually less games

1849
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: being played, then we could have an eighteen game together.

1850
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I think that would be awesome. It'd be a lot

1851
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,879
Speaker 1: more exciting for the fans. And one thing that nobody's

1852
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: mentioned with the eighteen game schedule is it would also

1853
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: help with tiebreakers at the end of the season for

1854
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: who makes the playoffs, because I hate seeing three nine

1855
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: to seven teams and only one of them can make

1856
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs or something like that. So thanks for taking

1857
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: my call, and I'll be happy to hear what you

1858
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: guys gotta say. Thanks. Okay, thanks Alex. Yeah makes sense,

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01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. That would be that's a

1860
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: big move to take away the preseason entirely. I think

1861
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: it's bold. It's a bold move, and you could have

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01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: you know, once there's a couple of reasons why I

1863
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: don't think you're you're proposition would work. One, the players

1864
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Association would not go for an eighteen game schedule. Two,

1865
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: the owners would not go for giving up four weeks

1866
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: four games of revenue that they don't have to share

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01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: with anybody. That's two top reasons. There's a million more.

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01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that there. Youn't even

1869
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: need to go past you know yea to the other

1870
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: nine hundred nine eight thousand of them. But those two

1871
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: right there would stop it from happening. We're gonna talk

1872
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: more about this. Chris Brown getting set to join us.

1873
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: He follows what's going on around the league, and he

1874
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: knows what's going on around with the pills and Chris

1875
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: Brown Bills incided from Buffalo Bills dot com. So to

1876
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: anybody to join us when we come back, you can

1877
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 1: still phone in your ideas or sending your tweets to

1878
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, or give us a call at eight

1879
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty or toll free one eight

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01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Chris Brown when

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01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,560
Speaker 1: we come back one goes five presented by Cobad to

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Speaker 1: help from the Marianne Hotel in Troy, Michigan. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radios. Hills Radio Network Stories Update. The update

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Speaker 1: from Detroit, where the Bills are getting set to play

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Speaker 1: preseason game number three tonight, the Bills and the Detroit Lions.

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01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: We still don't know whether Matthew Stafford, veteran quarterback, will

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Speaker 1: start for the Lions. We think the Bills are going

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01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: to start with their starters. How long they play, that's

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01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: another story. The Bills get their first look at third

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Speaker 1: round draft pick tight end Dawson Knox in tonight's game.

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Speaker 1: He will join the fray the battlef of playing time

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Speaker 1: at tight end, and the Bills, of course, have a

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Speaker 1: lot of other players to look at tonight. Offensive line

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01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: not quite settled yet for the Bills, and won't get

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Speaker 1: settled tonight with some of the injuries they have. It

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Speaker 1: is an eight o'clock kickoff tonight. The game on CBS,

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Speaker 1: but you can hear it on the radio right here

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Speaker 1: on our flagship and Buffalo WDR Sports Radio five fifty.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to call of the game with Eric wood

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Speaker 1: South Capacho on the sidelines. Eight o'clock tonight, The Bills

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Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions right here Carolina Panthers say they're

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01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic that Cam Newton will be ready to play

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Speaker 1: with one of the regular season. He was injured in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter of last night's preseason game. He is

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01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: a mild sprain of his left foot, hurt on a

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01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: sack in the first quarter of their loss to the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. He sent out the first two preseason games,

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Speaker 1: including the one against the Bills, and then played just

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01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: one quarter last night. That Cam Newton, they say, should

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Speaker 1: be ready for the start of the regular season. The

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders and Green Bay Packers played on an eighty

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Speaker 1: yard field last night the preseason game because of field

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Speaker 1: the conditions in Winnipeg, Manitoba, where their preseason game was.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders, technically the home team for the preseason game,

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Speaker 1: gave up a game in Oakland to play in Winnipeg.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are going to sign a veneran inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: Paul Warlow, to a contract. He's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 1: Ravens have won sixteen consecutive preseason games, the longest streak

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Speaker 1: in the NFL and at least twenty five years. Raiders

1920
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia last night twenty six to fifteen in the

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Speaker 1: game that was shortened by lightning, and the Bisons opened

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Speaker 1: up a semi game homestand tonight final homestand of the

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Speaker 1: year coming up with the Herd. They got cloverd and Rochester.

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Speaker 1: Last night lost twenty to three to the Red Wings. Tonight.

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Speaker 1: Craig Rave on the Mountain, I'll throw the first pitch

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Speaker 1: before the game right into Connor fist. I've just started

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Speaker 1: for Buffalo Bisen's pot tuck at tonight seven or five

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Speaker 1: at salem Field and that is the update. Oh on,

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Speaker 1: great time, Watt clasp tex down, tex down total over time,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hotel Metrot, Maryanne Frey Michigan on Big Beaver,

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Speaker 1: Roon and Troy Michigan, ja verpis and canst and Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown joins us. Brownie is back. It's just your second

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Speaker 1: appearance of the weekend. Back your third. I think it's two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number two. That's good. We need some Brownie in our lives.

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Speaker 1: He's here with us. Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Talk about tonight's game, Steve, why don't

1937
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: you lead us off? You can go wherever you want

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01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 1: with this team. I still can't get over that Mike

1939
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Loodish interview. Dam it was great. It was great. You

1940
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: gotta listen to Yeah, it was. He was good, really

1941
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Speaker 1: candid and insightful to the guys. You know, he's always

1942
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: been really sharp guys. So you gotta go back and

1943
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Speaker 1: listen to it for you, for you, thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 1: By the way. Sure at this hotel, by the way,

1945
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Speaker 1: just for those of you don't know, the is freezing.

1946
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Speaker 1: Every room in the hotel is absolutely bitter cold. Yeah,

1947
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean I burn more calories that way. I turned

1948
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Speaker 1: my air conditioner in my This is unprecedented. I turned

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Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, it was fifty eight degrees when I

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Speaker 1: rolled in here last night to ten or something outside

1951
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Speaker 1: outside I'm checking out, my room was thirty eight. It

1952
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Speaker 1: felt like you you could have you know. Oh, then

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Speaker 1: impact to night's game seventy four. I don't think what

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Speaker 1: do you look? Climate controlled? Sixty eight? I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: lightning he's not gonna unfortunately, lightning, He's got not going

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Speaker 1: to end this game unless it knocks the power out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think what's gonna happen to now? Is

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01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot gonna play the guys? Are they gonna do

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01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: it like the way they have said they're going to

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Speaker 1: what do you know or do you know anything? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll play the most that we've seen

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01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: them play all preseason. But you know, I think if

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01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: there are two convincing drives by the first team offense,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be inclined to take him out sooner.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not I don't think he's concerned about

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01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: a rep count. I think he just wants to make

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01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: sure it looks right and if as soon as it

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01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: looks right, they're coming off to fields. Especially with the

1969
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: injuries we saw yesterday, you know, Cam Newton going out,

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01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: other guys are getting hurt. It's just there's this wave

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Speaker 1: that is just over. It's like a tsunami here in

1972
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Speaker 1: the NFL preseason. Coaches more than ever, are not about preseason,

1973
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 1: but we don't want to get there yet. Do you

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01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 1: think does it what Sean McDermott does with his roster

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Speaker 1: and his Buffalo Bills determined, is determined or affected by

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Speaker 1: what Patricia does with the Lions. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be that. I think it really

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Speaker 1: is going to be predator. It's like coach McDermott has

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Speaker 1: said all preseason, we care less about what our opponents

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Speaker 1: are doing here in the preseason. We're more focused on

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Speaker 1: executing our fundamentals, our techniques and the scheme the proper way,

1982
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, in each and every situation we come across.

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Speaker 1: And I think as long as he sees clear evidence

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Speaker 1: of that by his offense and by his defense, and

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01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: feels good about where those units are at, respectively, the

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Speaker 1: starters I'm talking about now, they're coming off the field, right.

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Speaker 1: You said, if it looks right, it hasn't. It looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good for first, pretty damn good for the details.

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Speaker 1: I can say that, And then I want to see

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Speaker 1: more from the run game. I really do. I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with the passing game and what we've seen from it.

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Speaker 1: I want to see a little bit more clarity. I

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01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 1: guess it's clarity more than anything else. I think there

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01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: have been some signs in the run game that it's good,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we've seen enough of Leshaan or

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: Frank Gore to really ascertain where is it going, how

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Speaker 1: much is getting accomplished, are they on schedule? All of

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Speaker 1: those things, So I think it's it's it's a situation

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Speaker 1: where let's see a little more Lashawan tonight behind this

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01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 1: brand new line that is still taking shape, Let's see

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01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 1: a little bit more of Frank, and let's get at

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01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: least some measure of evidence that they're going to be

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01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: able to sustain a run game far more effectively than

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01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 1: they were able to start tonight. Yeah, I would say

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Speaker 1: it's Feliciano. Let me get you back to clarity in

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Speaker 1: the run game. Are you saying clarity in terms of

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01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: how those guys, maybe the top three are used, because

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Speaker 1: I don't have no no, no, I'm talking about just

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01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: pure execution from the group as a whole. I want

2010
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Speaker 1: to see we'll see a run game. Yeah, I want

2011
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: to see better and more effective. I want to see this.

2012
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Speaker 1: You know, I think the offensive line has certainly shown

2013
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Speaker 1: an ability to establish the line of scrimmage and even

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01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: reset it two yards down field from time to time

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Speaker 1: here in the preseason. I want to see the run

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Speaker 1: game also kind of cash in with you know, four

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Speaker 1: yard plays, five yard plays, four yard plays. I want

2018
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: to see this team averaging four or five yards a carry.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw the pass happy approach in the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game. They obviously felt they had to get

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01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 1: some things accomplished there. I want to see them try

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01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: to get some things accomplished with the run game and

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Speaker 1: run it even though Detroit knows it's coming. Is that

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Speaker 1: a fair expectation or question given the fact I'm not

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01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: going to say the offensive line is in disarray, but

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Speaker 1: it's certainly not settled yet. So are you asking too

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01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 1: much from a group offensive line wise, that is not

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01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: yet settled. I don't think we are. No, No, Every

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01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: offensive line better be able to run to football in

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Speaker 1: this league. I don't care what kind of passing league

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Speaker 1: you want to call it. Now, you still have to

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01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball, and there has to

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Speaker 1: be some measure of success even when the opponent knows

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Speaker 1: it's coming. So I want to see more evidence of

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Speaker 1: that to really feel like they've got most of what

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Speaker 1: they need buttoned up for the regular season ready to roll. Well,

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Speaker 1: when Steve asked you about center and what's not buttoned up?

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Speaker 1: Is Mitch Morris right, where's that going to go? I mean,

2039
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Speaker 1: two weeks from Sunday, it's the Bills and the Jets' predictions. Yeah,

2040
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Speaker 1: it's anybody's Yes, I mean, nobody can predict where a

2041
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: guy with concussion symptoms can go. Um. I did see

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Speaker 1: him participating late in the week with the third unit

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Speaker 1: at center, So I don't know if that's a sign

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Speaker 1: that he's really really close and they're just kind of

2045
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: bringing him along steadily, step by step. Maybe they're concerned

2046
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: knowing that the starting group is going to play so

2047
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 1: much in tonight's game that they don't want to expose

2048
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: him to any extra hits coming off of the concussion.

2049
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Speaker 1: What's starting group? Who's the bill starting group? Yeah? Yeah,

2050
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: the starters are gonna be out there, those starters. That's

2051
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: for a significant period of time. And if he's one

2052
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Speaker 1: of them, if Inseci's not playing, and if Mitch Morse

2053
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: doesn't play, can you call that group the starters? We

2054
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 1: may be in week one, We may be okay. So yeah,

2055
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean you got. I just think they're being extra

2056
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 1: extra cautious with Morris because with the history combine, you know,

2057
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: you never want. What's really bad for any concussion case

2058
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: is having two in close proximity to one another in

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01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 1: terms of the calendar. And you know, he plays tonight

2060
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,919
Speaker 1: and you know takes another knock, which as an offensive

2061
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: lineman can very easily happen you know, now you've got

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01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 1: two in the span of about a month. That's really

2063
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: bad because and and evidence of that is Kevin Johnson

2064
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Speaker 1: last season. He got a concussion in week one of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, then got another concussion week one of the

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Speaker 1: regular season. He missed the rest of twenty eighteen. Yeah,

2067
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: so that's why they're taking this approach. What so you

2068
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: think the offensive line on the left side is Dawkins,

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01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Spain and Feliciano center. How are they going to line

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01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,600
Speaker 1: up tonight on the right side with it's Long and

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Speaker 1: Ford right guard, forward it right tackle. That's how they

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Speaker 1: went in practice this week. Okay, so that's what I'm anticipating,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't. I don't anticipate any change

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Speaker 1: beyond that. And those are you know, Long and Feliciano

2075
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: are two guys who are clearly in the top seven

2076
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: in this group. And Secy and more so the other

2077
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: two when they're out of the equation. So you take

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01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: those two out of the equation, and now you've got

2079
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: who is either you're five, you're six, or your seven.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys are stepping in and that's how they're

2081
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: going to have to go. Steve and I were talking earlier.

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Speaker 1: I want to get off the offensive line here in

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01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:26,839
Speaker 1: a second. But um, who are we keeping four tackles?

2084
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: And if so, who are they? Dawkins and Secky. Let's

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Speaker 1: leave Forward out of it for a second. Do you

2086
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Speaker 1: keep four? Where? Do you count Bates? Anywhere you want?

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Speaker 1: Where you want? Right? I think he's making tackles. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you have Bates so bats can move.

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01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: So you're you're keeping in Secky, Forward and Dawkins those

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Speaker 1: are your top three tackles, and then Bates as your

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Speaker 1: fourth tackle because he can play everywhere. Okay, I'd rather

2092
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: count I want to count Forward as a guard so

2093
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 1: you can see on my spotting board. But yeah, well

2094
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: and this really is the that's right? Yeah? Right, do

2095
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: we have a Yeah, we'll have that in bronze for

2096
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: week one. For sure, they got flexibility. McDermott is right.

2097
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: He has mentioned they have a couple of guys for Bates, Feliciano,

2098
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: three guys Spencer Long can move around a little bit.

2099
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: They've got flexibility. And we're not talking about guys who

2100
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: you're just putting them there because you don't have a

2101
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: better option. You have guys that can legitimately play a

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01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: second position. It's not like they're lost playing the second

2103
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: position that they're capable of playing. You have guys with

2104
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: pure position flexibility and can help you in more than

2105
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: one spot where you're like, well, you know what, he's

2106
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 1: a really good guard, but man center, he just he

2107
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: just can't know. You've got guys that can do both

2108
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: and and that's going to help them based on how

2109
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: things are looking right now. Here's the thing though, I mean,

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01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 1: the problem is obviously, I mean it's the elder in

2111
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: the room. You got your five starters. You take the

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01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: two guys, top guys right off the top, Well maybe

2113
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 1: not and maybe the top guys, but maybe one and three,

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01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: one and four arguably two of your top five. Yeah,

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01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: two of your top five guys off the top that

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01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 1: you're sixty percent of what you were trying to put

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01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: back together. That's yeah, that's a large percentage of the

2118
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: work you did to fix that position or that that

2119
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: group or sorry. So it's it's well, they do have

2120
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: some guys, and they've got some depth and they've got

2121
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: some flexibility. They still have to find out if those

2122
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: guys can win. Well, I want to believe they they

2123
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: feel that they have enough of a body of work

2124
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: on Inseci at least. I think Morris was signed to

2125
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: big money, so they already felt they knew what he

2126
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: could offer. Now it's just a matter of getting both

2127
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: of them healthy and ready to play. And you know,

2128
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: that's a waiting game right now, and they don't really

2129
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: have a choice. They got to wait until both of

2130
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: those guys are set to go, and at this point

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01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: they're not, So that's kind of what you're you're dealing with.

2132
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: The Other thing that I wanted to see from the

2133
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: offense tonight is more of the tempo variations. We saw

2134
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: a smattering of it last week at Carolina, and I

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01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: was very happy to see it because I've been looking

2136
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: for it all preseason. We know how much Brian Dable

2137
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: feels it is a weapon in their arsenal as an offense.

2138
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: And for those that didn't catch it last week, it

2139
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: happened with the second unit when Barkley was on the

2140
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: field and they had a play. They got a first

2141
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: down in bang, they got right up to the line fast,

2142
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: they ran a play, they caught Carolina with twelve men

2143
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 1: on the field, and they also had a touch that

2144
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 1: was a touchdown. Pass to Duke Williams. That defense was

2145
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: not ready for that tempo change, and how many years

2146
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: have we seen New England do that and exploit defenses

2147
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: with big plays, you know, game changing plays, getting the

2148
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: key first down, whatever it is, whether you speed it

2149
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 1: up or slow it down when you're ahead on the scoreboard.

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01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: You know, there were elements that Dabele was trying to

2151
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 1: implement into his offense with respect to tempo change last season.

2152
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: But with a quarterback mess and a rookie, you know,

2153
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: in his first eleven starts, they really an opportunity to

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01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: do that. It was exciting to see it last week.

2155
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see more of it, especially if John

2156
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 1: if you know, when Josh is in the game, I

2157
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: want to see how he handles and chance Table does

2158
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 1: not want you or anybody else to see that. Well,

2159
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: it's a distinct possibility. Yeah, it's a distinct possibility, but

2160
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 1: just have in sight of it and knowing that it's

2161
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 1: still I think it's going to be a big part

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01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: of what they do this year. I really do. Chris

2163
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: Browns with a spills inside a Buffalo Bills dot Com,

2164
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker talking about tonight's game. What are

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Speaker 1: you looking for tonight? We're gonna get to the big

2166
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 1: preseason question or a moment. Let's take a call Mike,

2167
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,560
Speaker 1: and Hamburg is on the line. Michael ahead, you're on

2168
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 1: the ear question. I just have a quick question and

2169
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: then I'll hang up and listen. Everybody talks about Christian

2170
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 1: Wade as running back. Yeah, he's got rock talent, but

2171
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: I think he would be great as an outside gunner

2172
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: on special teams. I'll hang up to listen. Let's ask

2173
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: a guy who why don't we look to our left here?

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01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: And well, you don't have to be that good an

2175
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 1: a lead. I did it. So there's that and the

2176
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: simple fact that the matters I mentioned this earlier in

2177
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 1: the show. Christian Wade is right now neck deep and

2178
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: just the offensive rules and what they do. If you

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01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: put him on special teams, you can you take it.

2180
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:17,560
Speaker 1: And it's another whole rule book all by itself. It

2181
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: might be a little too much for him, but if

2182
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: you give him some guidelines, certainly he could try it

2183
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and they could do it. But and I know this too,

2184
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 1: if he's gonna make the fifty three man roster, he's

2185
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: got to play special teams. That's all he's gonna do.

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01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a kick returner or something, but also as

2187
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: a kick cover. The more you can do, the better

2188
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 1: chance he has. But the simple fact of the matter

2189
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: is this, he hasn't done that. They haven't used him

2190
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: on it. He hasn't been on special teams. They haven't

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01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 1: even tried him on it, and which is to me,

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01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: spells the fact that there they think it would be

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01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 1: too much for him to handle. The rules are different.

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01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: He's never That's a one thing he has never had

2195
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: to do as a rugby player is to chase under

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01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,679
Speaker 1: a kick and tackle guys. I mean, it happens in rugby.

2197
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: And there's no prop no question that he's had to

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01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: backle guys in rugby and getting and mix it up

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01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: like that. So I don't It's not like he wouldn't

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01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: know how to act. But the rules are different when

2201
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 1: you punt the ball than they are when you snap

2202
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: it and hand it off to somebody. That's a really

2203
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: good question. I don't know how effective he could be

2204
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: on special teams. Certainly he knows what to do with

2205
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and that, but this is

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01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 1: the big question. Does he know what to do when

2207
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ball and he's they're not trying

2208
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: to chase him. That's the big question. Special teams are

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01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: certainly a place he would have to contribute if he's

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01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: going to make the fifty three. And I think it's

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01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: all I can say is I think it's telling that

2212
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him do any of that. Let's take

2213
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: one more call in this segment, can in Depeu you're

2214
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 1: on the air, the solo ken go ahead. I was wondering,

2215
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: what exactly is the concussion protocol? Are there stages? What

2216
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: is it? Yes? Yeah, So it's a five step return

2217
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: to participation protocol. So you start with rest and recovery.

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Then you can go into some light exercise, not football

2219
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: related in any way, and then after that you can

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01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: do some more stuff, you know, non contact. I think

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01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 1: it's like strength training, other things like that. It's like

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01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: light aerobic light aerobic, and then you can then when

2223
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: you get to step four, that's football related activities, but

2224
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: it's still on a non contact basis. Then you go

2225
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: to full football activity when you get full medical clearance.

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01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: So he's probably on step four somewhere where he can

2227
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: participate now it's non contact. Now I have seen instances

2228
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 1: which makes me say, is there step four and a half,

2229
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: Because we've had guys that have come out of concussion

2230
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: protocol the last couple of years who are practicing there

2231
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 1: is contact and they're still in the protocol. So I

2232
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: don't know if there's like some some half step there

2233
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: that we don't know about, but it's it. But you know,

2234
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: I he's not out yet, he's not fully medically cleared

2235
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: to play. They can be in these in these pro

2236
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: in these steps and not progress, not progress. So they

2237
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: can go to they go they go recovery, and then

2238
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: they go light aerobic exercise and then they don't have

2239
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: symptoms as a result of that exercise, so that means

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01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: they can move to them they can go to the

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 1: next one. So if they have to return and the

2242
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 1: next day they got a headache, it's back, and they

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01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 1: wait and they can do only what they can do

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: without symptoms. Then they move to the second, which is

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01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 1: heavier exercise not football related. They got to work up

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01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 1: a sweat and get their adrenaline up and their heartache,

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01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: their heart rate up. And then if they can do

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01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: that and then they don't have headaches or light sensitivity,

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01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: the deck next day, then they can't. Okay, you can

2250
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 1: move up, but if they do, they have to stay

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01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: in that step of the protocol and they back off

2252
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: the exercise and they try and exert it, and they

2253
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 1: do it until they don't have Sometimes they go back

2254
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: to step one, that's rest and recovery because the symptoms returned.

2255
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to repeat the protocol and go

2256
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: back to one so that all that stuff is in play.

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01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 1: When you're talking. You got five, you know, the rest

2258
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: and recovery, you light aerobic work that's not even football related.

2259
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 1: Then it's heavier exertion like you're breaking a sweat work

2260
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 1: without without symptoms. And then it's football related activities without contact.

2261
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: You can go out and like take off in a

2262
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: stance or move out and you can push I can't

2263
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: even push anything around. He's got your gear on maybe

2264
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 1: and you're just going through the motions. And then if that,

2265
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: if you can do that, and then you come through

2266
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: the next day without symptoms. And may it may be

2267
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure about this, in some of these

2268
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: higher steps of the protocol, there may be like a

2269
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 1: couple of days window where they have to do it

2270
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,679
Speaker 1: for a couple of days and still be without symptoms.

2271
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 1: They can't go like like there has to be like

2272
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: in one of these one of these protocols, just one

2273
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: of these steps, and just so the caller understands it too,

2274
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:50,799
Speaker 1: they're testing them against their own baseline test. Every player

2275
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 1: has a baseline test taken of them when they're fully healthy,

2276
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: and then after a concussion, they will also have the

2277
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 1: results of their brain activity tested against their own baseline

2278
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: test to see just how different it is based on

2279
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: the concussion they sustained. And obviously they have to get

2280
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: all the way back down to the same readings of

2281
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 1: their brain activity as they were before the concussion. Now,

2282
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: got a few minutes stuff here with Chris Brown, Bills

2283
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Inside or Buffalo Bills dot com. You can join us

2284
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: if you like on the telephone line. All right, Chris,

2285
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: here we are preseason game number three, where the starters

2286
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,560
Speaker 1: are supposed to start and play. May not happen for

2287
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 1: the Lions tonight. We think it's going to happen for

2288
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: the Bills. But in general, the Bills I think find

2289
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 1: themselves in the midst of kind of I don't know

2290
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: if we're getting an upheaval in terms of preseason approach

2291
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 1: or I get Why do I get the feeling this

2292
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,719
Speaker 1: is kind of a turning point for preseason in the NFL.

2293
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: This week almost what do you think the week? Well,

2294
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: I think the reason it's under the microscope a little

2295
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: bit more is because this is traditionally the game where

2296
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: you see all the starters and they do play a

2297
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: long time, and that has not been the case usually.

2298
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: There are a couple of exceptions. Philadelphia has not played

2299
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 1: all of their starters, including their starting quarterback, for a

2300
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: few years now, and there's a handful of other teams

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: that have adopted the same approach. But now it seems

2302
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: like there is a greater percentage of teams that are

2303
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: sitting starters. I mean, the Packers didn't play anybody last night.

2304
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Bad field. Well, granted that was probably part of the

2305
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: equation there, but thirty two players did not suit up

2306
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 1: on both sides of their starting lineups because partially probably

2307
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: because of the field and partially for coach's decision, because

2308
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: they don't want to run the risk. And heck, it's

2309
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: hard to blame a first year head coach. I mean,

2310
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You get into a new team,

2311
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: you're planning to rely on all these people, you play

2312
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: them in a preseason game and you lose somebody for

2313
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: the first month of the season. There's a critical component

2314
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: of what do you want to do well. Think about

2315
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue. Think about who those thirty two

2316
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: guys would be. It'd be the twenty eleven starters on offense,

2317
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: eleven starters on defensive, your base package. Then it would

2318
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: be all the sub packages. It'd be the third nickel,

2319
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: the backup safety, you know that. It would be all

2320
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: the guys who come in on sub packages. Also that

2321
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: are that are sitting sat down on both sides of

2322
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: the ball, would be your two tight end package, your

2323
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: fourth wide All those guys are sitting down because they're

2324
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: that important. I mean, that's who it is, that three guys.

2325
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but this kind of helps

2326
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 1: the narrative for the NFL owners that want an eighteen

2327
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: game regular season, I feel because because you're convincing people

2328
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: that you don't need four games in the preseason, so

2329
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 1: you cut it back to two. And I understand what

2330
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: Steve was saying about the revenue argument, because it's built

2331
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: in revenue those four games that you have in the

2332
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: preseason for NFL owners, where they pretty much pocket at all.

2333
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: But I think they've probably done their research. They're not

2334
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: billionaires for no reason. They've probably done their research and

2335
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 1: recognize that if we add two regular season games and

2336
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: still have two preseason games, and we add a bye week,

2337
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 1: and we have a twenty week season, and then we

2338
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,839
Speaker 1: maybe add a handful of players to your active rosters,

2339
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: a handful of players to your practice squads, and there's

2340
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: more jobs around the league for every team in terms

2341
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: of players, up to about ten new jobs for each

2342
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: roster come September, they might be on their way to

2343
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: convincing the NFLPA that, no, that's not such a bad idea.

2344
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 1: If you're going to give us two hundred more NFL

2345
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: jobs and you know, all of that and even more

2346
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: tooth than that, I think, and an extra buy and

2347
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I think there's I think they'll probably be go back

2348
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: to the old percentages they had before this last CBA,

2349
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: where they went from fifty one percent of the gross

2350
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: down to forty seven percent because of because of the

2351
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: stadium credits. If the owners give them that back, I mean,

2352
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's and plus the two preseason games. So

2353
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 1: if you know they'll they'll the owners won't give up

2354
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: really anything on the bottom line because of the extra

2355
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: games they would get in return. Did you read Pro

2356
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: Football Talk said they could cut preseason and a half

2357
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: now they don't have to wait for a new CBA.

2358
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 1: It's that kind of momentum building. You think it wouldn't

2359
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: surprise because the coaches really grabbed control of this right

2360
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 1: the way the coaches are playing preseason games. Well, yeah,

2361
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 1: and they're driving the bus right. Yeah, they're trying to

2362
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: because they know their livelihood is directly tied to player availability.

2363
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: They're not stupid. They know I need these guys for

2364
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 1: the games that actually count. And if I'm gonna lose

2365
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 1: somebody for an extended period of time in the regular

2366
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: season because I'm playing him in the preseason, well that

2367
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't add up. All that being said, how does

2368
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott in the Buffalo Bills play tonight? Well? Why

2369
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 1: are they exempt from those sort of considerations? Well, I

2370
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: think it's I think there are unique circumstances that change

2371
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: the dynamic of what a coach wants to do. And

2372
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: for Sean McDermott, he's got an offensive line that's going

2373
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: to be eighty percent new this season. They need the reps,

2374
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: especially with all the time. But they missed in the

2375
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: spring and in training camp with player availability, and they

2376
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: have a young quarterback who needs the reps. It's a

2377
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 1: different set of circumstances for them. He would have to

2378
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: weigh he needs the reps, but I don't want to

2379
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 1: expose him. And you might have an opponent tonight that

2380
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 1: has no well, certainly it doesn't look like Stafford would play,

2381
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,040
Speaker 1: but an opponent who is not in what if you're

2382
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: up against team that's going to play all backups. You

2383
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 1: got this at stake. They've got this at stake. That's

2384
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 1: an ambass I would know if I'd be willing to

2385
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: do that. I understand that, But I don't think a

2386
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 1: lot of coaches look at it that way. I think

2387
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: they're so invested in their own thing that they say

2388
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: it's of greater value to us to get this starting

2389
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 1: offensive line the reps they need so we can execute

2390
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: properly in week one if they want to have I mean,

2391
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser said it this week. We don't care if

2392
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: they got backup quarterbacks over there. We're worried about executing

2393
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: our things the right way. Now, you want to make

2394
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: the argument that the defense doesn't need to be out there.

2395
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm on board with that. That's the number two defense

2396
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: in football with ten of eleven returning starters. I mean,

2397
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: do you really need them out there a whole lot tonight. No. No,

2398
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: So you want to make the argument for the defense,

2399
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the offense is just in

2400
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 1: a little bit different set of circumstances where they need

2401
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: the time on the field to truly jail. You got

2402
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of new receivers, you got new tight ends,

2403
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 1: rookie tight ends, you got a quarterback who doesn't have

2404
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: sixteen starts in the league, and you got an offensive

2405
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 1: line that's eighty percent new. They need the time on

2406
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 1: the field. I don't want to make any argument. I

2407
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: just want to acknowledge, and I know you do, both

2408
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: of you, that we are almost at a turning point.

2409
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I believe in preseason football this week it seems, yeah,

2410
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: we've always, let's face it, we always have these conversations

2411
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: every preseason heightened. I agree with you. I think there's

2412
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: a real heightened and a plus because I'll say it again,

2413
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: and the media has jumped on it too. The football

2414
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: all over it. The football guys who are doing this,

2415
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: the coaches, the players, the rosters, the people who are

2416
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: actually on the field. We have seen a vast difference.

2417
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: They'll say the same thing. They always tell us, Hey,

2418
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: it's important, Yeah, we need to But their actions are

2419
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: speaking louder than their words. They are not putting these

2420
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 1: guys out there there get there a lot more joint

2421
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: practices now than there have ever been controlled practices getting

2422
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 1: ready for these games. And no matter what they say

2423
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 1: about how important it is, their actions are not saying

2424
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: that it's that important. At least, you know what, it's

2425
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 1: not important to the guys who are really going to

2426
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: play in the regular season. So if that's the case,

2427
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here. They're the regular season guys.

2428
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: It's not important to the It's not worth the risk

2429
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 1: for them. It's not worth you know, for you know,

2430
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz, and for Matt Stafford and for Aaron

2431
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers and all these most of those coaches saying, listen,

2432
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: it's not important enough to risk those guys. So you

2433
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: know they've spoken, they've spoken so about how important it is.

2434
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, Chris, what do you got coming up? You're

2435
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 1: gonna be on Bill's roundtable pregame show, right, that's right

2436
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: on the radio, must listen radio right there. Yeah, it's great,

2437
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 1: It's always good. And then you're probably talking about some

2438
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: of these issues everything. Yeah, Eric Wood and I kind

2439
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 1: of have a good banter here early on. I'm sure

2440
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: you and Eric are having fun on the broadcast. I'll

2441
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: actually be able to listen tonight now that I've got

2442
02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 1: my game pass pass excellent, Okay, so I'm excited I've

2443
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: come back. I've got all my passwords. It doesn't work,

2444
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 1: you think that's me? Yes, yes, we do. Doesn't work.

2445
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: And then I'm also gonna do um a periscope Q

2446
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 1: and A when we get out to the field later

2447
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: this afternoon. Times that just takes some Q and A

2448
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: from fans just about tonight's game and whatever else. What's

2449
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: time you're going to do that? Do you know? Well,

2450
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 1: the first bus leaves here, you know, before four o'clock,

2451
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 1: and so I'm estimating I'll be down at the stadium

2452
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 1: by four fifteen, four thirty. Help. I always put the

2453
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,480
Speaker 1: fifteen minute warning out there as to when I'm coming up,

2454
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 1: but it's probably somewhere between four thirty and five. All right,

2455
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 1: So you don't have a set time work. No, I

2456
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: usually give it. Well, it depending on traffic and when

2457
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: we can get there and all that job. Traffic is

2458
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of a problem. Well

2459
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: it was last night. Not pretty in this town with

2460
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 1: all the construction. I'll say that. Thank you, Brownie, Brownie.

2461
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Bills inside at Buffalo bills dot Com joining us,

2462
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Steve and I coming back One Bill's Lide presented by

2463
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 1: Kalaida help from Troy, Michigan. This is Buffalo Bills read

2464
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 1: welcome back down. Are you with us here today? You

2465
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: don't have tonight. I feel like you're not waning. I'm

2466
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: lining up. I'm worried about the Affrican scene. If you're here, Okay,

2467
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 1: No I am. I'm looking forward to it. You're gonna watch,

2468
02:02:27,200 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the press box. I might be

2469
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: in the booth with you. Might stand up. We got

2470
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 1: a room, got a little room and if not, we'll

2471
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 1: go to the press box. Eat free food. Yeah, we

2472
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,600
Speaker 1: got My son is here. He's and he's been an

2473
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 1: internship here in Michigan. This was his Today's his last

2474
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 1: day of work. Okay, so he's coming to the game tonight.

2475
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: We'll drive back to Buffalo tomorrow, hang out and stuff,

2476
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 1: and then he's got a couple of weeks before he

2477
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: goes back for his seat here a couple of weeks. Yeah, okay,

2478
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 1: so you're going to the game like you having bought

2479
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,760
Speaker 1: into tonight's game. Well, I don't have any skin in

2480
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 1: this game, you know. I mean, that's the thing. I

2481
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: don't have to broadcast it. I can actually sit back

2482
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 1: and do what I've longed to do for a long

2483
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 1: time and just watch the game and scratch yourself. Yeah much, Yeah,

2484
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of sit back, put your feet up,

2485
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: and you know, don't try that free food and watch

2486
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: the game. We gotta get to then I want to

2487
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,720
Speaker 1: burp and without having to hit. Definitely don't try that.

2488
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 1: In our booth eight o'clock tonight, Bill's lines, what do

2489
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:20,920
Speaker 1: you think of the game? What are you looking for?

2490
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 1: We got time for a couple of more phone calls

2491
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 1: eight three five fifty and toll free one eight eight

2492
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:29,280
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Your thoughts on preseason?

2493
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 1: Where are we going with this? It feels like we're

2494
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of a preseason revolution in the NFL.

2495
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: What do you think? Here's a call from Eric in Chicago. Hello, Eric,

2496
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Go ahead, Hey, John

2497
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 1: and Steve, guys. I love your show Family seventeen years ago.

2498
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: I have a look back great right, Hey, how you

2499
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 1: doing it? One? You know the other thing? As I

2500
02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: can ever watch it. I can never listen to the

2501
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 1: show alive because I'm always at work. But hey, thanks

2502
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: for taking my call. You know, I listen to a

2503
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 1: weekend Um. All the different talk about, you know, what,

2504
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 1: what players we're gonna put in what position? Is that

2505
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: got me thinking a little bit is how how do

2506
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: the coaches determine how many positions are going to have

2507
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 1: at each position? Every year? Is that? Is that something

2508
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: that across the leaguers, every team to decide what how

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02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: many players are going to do in each respective position.

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02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: It's every team and it's a fight, right, It'll be

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02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:32,120
Speaker 1: a battle. It's a battle for those it's a battle

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02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: for like one single spot per you know, per position group.

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02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously the offensive line you've got to

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02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 1: have at least seven you got to have five starters

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02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 1: and one backup for both guards in the center, and

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02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: one backup for the tackles at least right, Well, some

2517
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:53,640
Speaker 1: teams know they've got guys, and they may want to

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02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 1: keep eight because they've got a guy that is really good,

2519
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 1: or for whatever reason, they might have a guy who's fragile,

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02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: or they waiting on to get back from an injury

2521
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,960
Speaker 1: or something like that. So there's seven or eight of

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02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 1: those guys. Running backs, how many do you need? You

2523
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:11,160
Speaker 1: got a starter, if he's really good, man, you might

2524
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: only need three of them, and then or you know,

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02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 1: or whatever, four tops, you know, and when you get

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02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: a fullback maybe, I don't know, But if you can

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02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 1: do it by committee, then you're gonna have like four

2528
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 1: guys and three of them are gonna play a lot

2529
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,920
Speaker 1: and the other one's gonna play special teams maybe or

2530
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 1: in case somebody gets injured, you know. So you go

2531
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: through this every position group tight end, offensive line, running back,

2532
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 1: quarterback and why and wide receivers a big one, you know.

2533
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 1: So because if you go three wide or four weight

2534
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 1: or wide or five wide, you gotta have five guys

2535
02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 1: plus backups and they've got to be active on game day.

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02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 1: So that's those numbers are fluctuating. The numbers you really

2537
02:05:55,920 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: want to really fluctuate to me, though, are linebackers, running backs,

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02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 1: tight ends, wide receivers. Those four are the ones that

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02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,000
Speaker 1: are that are kind of influx, particularly because you might

2540
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 1: run a three four or four three. If you run

2541
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 1: a three four, you got three linebackers you can give

2542
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: back up for each of those guys, that's six. That's

2543
02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 1: not very many guys for an entire group. Position group,

2544
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 1: defensive line. Everybody keeps as many of those guys as

2545
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 1: they can so they can keep fresh pass rushers up.

2546
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's all dictated by your team desires and

2547
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 1: the coaching staff desires. And you got coaches that will

2548
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,440
Speaker 1: stand up on the table and fight for a spot

2549
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: for an extra guy this time next week. Oh yeah,

2550
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 1: came on Thursday next week. And then you got a

2551
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator who has certain guys that he wants.

2552
02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:47,160
Speaker 1: He might have two guys at the same position group

2553
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:50,600
Speaker 1: and he'll put up a fight. So it's yeah, it

2554
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: is a it's an enormous debate when it comes down

2555
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,839
Speaker 1: to setting the roster. Let's try one more call. Squeezing

2556
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:58,320
Speaker 1: in here, Jeff in Rochester. Go ahead, Jeff, you're on

2557
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 1: the air. Are you doing okay? I'm thinking, I'm thinking,

2558
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 1: how about the preseason games count and the regular season

2559
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 1: it's where you still get the four extra games, do

2560
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: extra game thing one and still eleminate to fifty two

2561
02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 1: after the fourth game. A game, Well, you're talking about

2562
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 1: a twenty game regular season in right, a twenty game

2563
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 1: regular season. In the first four games, you've got ninety

2564
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: guys on the roster. As they go, they say, you

2565
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:37,520
Speaker 1: lose ten games. Thanks, send guys for weeks to get

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Speaker 1: fifty two or yeah, I mean, yeah, you could do

2567
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: it anyway you want it to. Yeah, ten gays. Yeah.

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02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 1: If you got ninety two guys and you go ten

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02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: down ten every week, you cut ten guys to get

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02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 1: to the fifty two after the fourth week, Yeah, I

2571
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 1: mean I could see that and make those games count. Um. Yeah,

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02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd evaluate the guys in six,

2573
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:02,880
Speaker 1: five or fifty five through ninety because they're not going

2574
02:08:02,920 --> 02:08:04,600
Speaker 1: to play in a game that really counts. They're just

2575
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna sit stand there on the sidelines. Thanks for your call.

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02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. Steve and I coming back.

2577
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collada Health. We're in Troy,

2578
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: Michigan at the Maryatt Hotel mary Att Detroit in Troy, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills read Okay, So what do we

2580
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 1: learn from today's show here in Detroit. Well, we heard

2581
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 1: from Mike Lodish an amazing almost half hour with a

2582
02:08:39,800 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 1: former Bill's defensive tackle lives here in Michigan. Mike Lodis

2583
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 1: talked about his experience playing in the NFL preseason. That

2584
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: was my season, right, That was how I was making

2585
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 1: the team, period. Yeah, and you did it every year.

2586
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:55,840
Speaker 1: I had to do it. They were always looking to

2587
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: get rid of me. I was the tenth round undersized

2588
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 1: kid that you know, let's get rid of him. And

2589
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:03,720
Speaker 1: I did everything in my power to have them. Look

2590
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:05,640
Speaker 1: on the board in the war room, go, we just

2591
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 1: can't cut him. We we gotta have them. And so

2592
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 1: that was the you know, my motor and where I

2593
02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 1: lacked maybe some fluidity with my body movement like Bruce has.

2594
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 1: I had some strength, I had some brains. You know.

2595
02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: I did everything in my power and you know, listen

2596
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: to the call or if I could hear something, I'm

2597
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 1: on it. You know, don't let me hear the snap count,

2598
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 1: you know. So, but today I'm seeing all these teams.

2599
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 1: They're sitting there starters like thirty guys. They're not playing

2600
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 1: that would never ever happen. Quotes is joining us on

2601
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: the show because like Chris Brown joined Assist a minute ago.

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02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com, Chris Brown talked

2603
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 1: about what he wants to see from the Buffalo offense

2604
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: in tonight's game. The other thing that I wanted to

2605
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: see from the offense tonight is more of the tempo variations.

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02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 1: We saw a smattering of it last week at Carolina,

2607
02:09:57,400 --> 02:09:59,160
Speaker 1: and I was very happy to see it because I've

2608
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:01,400
Speaker 1: been looking for it all season. We know how much

2609
02:10:01,480 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 1: Brian Dable feels it is a weapon in their arsenal

2610
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 1: as an offense. And for those that didn't catch it

2611
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 1: last week, it happened with the second unit when Berkley

2612
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 1: was on the field and they had a play. They

2613
02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: got a first down in bang, they got right up

2614
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: to the line fast, they ran a play, they caught

2615
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: Carolina with twelve men on the field, and they also

2616
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 1: had a touch that was the touchdown pass the Duke Williams.

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02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: That defense was not ready for that tempo change and

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02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:28,680
Speaker 1: how many years have we seen New England do that

2619
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:37,120
Speaker 1: and exploit defenses with big plays. Chris Brown talking about

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02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 1: the game Chris will be there tonight. I'll be there tonight.

2621
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 1: You'll be there tonight watching the game, right will, And

2622
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:44,000
Speaker 1: we've got shows to do next week. Next week's gonna

2623
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,160
Speaker 1: be funny with a home game. We'll not funny, but

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02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:48,440
Speaker 1: it'll be different. Home game coming up on funny strange,

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02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 1: not funny hot on Thursday. And of course the cutdowns

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02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 1: will be a big issue next week. Right Yeah, it's

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02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: going to be a huge, huge question mark. Maybe we'll

2628
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: get some clarity during the week next week, Maybe tonight

2629
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,080
Speaker 1: we'll bring us some clarity. But they're getting closer and

2630
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:04,440
Speaker 1: closer to that opening game that is looking more and

2631
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 1: more like a gargantuan matchup with the Jets. Yeah, I'm

2632
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 1: you and I are already starting to have a great

2633
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 1: deal of angst about how big a game that will be.

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02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to it's going to be such such

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02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a tone setters for the first What are

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02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 1: you looking for tonight? Let me put it this way,

2637
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Speaker 1: And we didn't get into this with Brownie, we probably

2638
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 1: should have. Um, you know what I'm looking for tonight?

2639
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 1: Not just here's where I want to see play and

2640
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: play well tonight? Um oh, I mean they want to

2641
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: see the Bills play well, obviously, but I do think, um,

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02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:40,040
Speaker 1: I would love to see some more work from the

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02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 1: tight ends and in particular, and look, we're not going

2644
02:11:43,040 --> 02:11:44,640
Speaker 1: to see a lot of them, including the guy that

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02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 1: they went out and signed in free agency. But I

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02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 1: just think there's something to be said for Um, not

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02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 1: not um. Dawson knock. Dawson knocks. That's what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to say. Right. They drafted him, not a premium pick,

2649
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 1: but a decent pick. Uh, He's missed some series his time.

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Speaker 1: In this preseason, I'd like to see what he has

2651
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 1: to offer. I think you'll get a chance tonight. Maybe

2652
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a pitch count, but I think we'll

2653
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 1: get a chance tonight to show what he has. My defense,

2654
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, my eye is gonna be on Um, It'll

2655
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: be on Captain. Yeah, you knew that. We've been talking

2656
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:16,720
Speaker 1: about this for days. I know you've got you know

2657
02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 1: you got You're like a dog with a bone. You

2658
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 1: got certain things and you just don't let the chewed up. Yeah.

2659
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: I get it, and I agree with you. Dawson Knox

2660
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 1: is a guy who's this is his chance, this is

2661
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Speaker 1: his preseason Tonight, if he doesn't get in on the game.

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02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:29,680
Speaker 1: I want to see Ed Oliver and the defensive line

2663
02:12:29,720 --> 02:12:31,360
Speaker 1: gets some good sacks and I'm like, I'm like a

2664
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 1: little bit with Brownie. I want to see this offensive

2665
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:36,800
Speaker 1: line run the ball when they want to run the ball.

2666
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: And I want to see Lashawn McCoy and Frank Gore.

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02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: I want to see this offense try and play at

2668
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:46,800
Speaker 1: one hundred percent capacity for a couple of series. I mean,

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02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 1: I want to see him grind it out, hit it hard.

2670
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:50,920
Speaker 1: I want to see some play selection, and I want

2671
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:52,600
Speaker 1: to see Josh Allen sling and I'd love to see

2672
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: more Cole Beasley keeping him on the field. Um, I

2673
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 1: just want to see more of what I've seen so far.

2674
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:02,760
Speaker 1: And if, if it is that the Detroit Lions don't

2675
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:05,480
Speaker 1: put their number ones out there, I think this team

2676
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:07,880
Speaker 1: needs to dominate. That was my next question. Will it matter?

2677
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if the Lions don't put their top players,

2678
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 1: not in not in your plan, But I think in

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02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 1: your expectations of success, Yeah, I think your expectations. You

2680
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:17,080
Speaker 1: need to you need to play well against a bunch

2681
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 1: of guys who may or may not be in the

2682
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 1: NFL next week. Ye all right, so we're gonna be

2683
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:23,040
Speaker 1: watching that game. I got the call of the game

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02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:26,600
Speaker 1: coming up with Eric Wooden Salcpaco coming up on our

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Speaker 1: flagship here in Buffalo, WGR and on the Bills Radio Network.

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02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: And we are back Monday for another show. How good weekend.

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Speaker 1: See all right you two, mur travel safe May Hi

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Speaker 1: you Monday at twelve noon with One Bill's Live there

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