WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Analyzing the Miracle 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:19.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.680 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a Break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:28.000 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.360 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:39.680 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, A bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.320 It is Monday, September twenty first, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:50.000 episode number twenty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.400 We're live in this WBC Mortgage Studios at the start 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.720 at Dave and Amber joining us from their homes, and 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.320 we got about forty five minutes to break down what 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.960 we saw yesterday. That was That was one of those 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.960 games that I love being a part of because it's 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.360 all over the place. There's so many emotions that you 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.600 feel as the game's going on. There's so many moments 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.640 that you think, oh, this is going one way and 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.119 then it flips. And then the great part about it 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:15.680 is at the end of the day, the team that 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.119 you're kind of rooting for actually ends up winning. So 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.760 there's really nothing I have to complain about in that game. 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:22.560 But we're gonna break down everything. There was so much 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.000 to break down that game. Cowboys win forty to thirty nine. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.360 It was actually a historic game. Wait wait, did you 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.920 say there's really nothing you have to complain about in 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.080 that game? Yes, but at the end of the day, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.880 I mean they won. At the end of the day, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.640 they won. So yeah, there were gonna be some complaints 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.400 I have and Amber, you know, because during the game 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.759 I was losing my mind at certain parts. But yeah, 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.559 when you get a win then it kind of changes, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.880 It kind of changes everything. But it was a historic 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.080 day for the Cowboys. Here's it's interesting thing. I saw 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.240 ESPN Stats put this out last night. Entering Week two 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.720 of the NFL season, teams that were teams were four 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:03.600 hundred and forty to nothing when they scored thirty nine 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.920 points and had zero turnovers since nineteen thirty three, Like, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.000 in the history of the NFL, there's never been a 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.119 team that scored thirty nine points, didn't have a turnover 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.840 and ended up losing the game. And yesterday the Cowboys 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.000 showed the Falcons how to get to that one that 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.120 lone one of those four hundred and forty one game. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.080 So let's go around the table. I want everybody to 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.640 tell me what do you think is the biggest story 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.600 coming out of this game. We're gonna start first with you, Amber. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.200 I think the biggest story currently, I would say, is 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.040 the questioning behind the coaching staff and the play calling 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.400 and some of the decision making, not just from this 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.320 specific game, but also looking back at Week one. I 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.680 think there's still some questionable moments there as far as 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.399 some of the decisions that we're made. So I would 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.120 have to say the biggest conversation I've been seeing going around, 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.720 it's just the question mark on whether or not McCarthy 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.400 and his group of coaching have been making the right 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.839 decisions at the right time. Nick, I think it's it's 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.799 Dak Prescott. I mean, it's just it's playing the way 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.040 he did and and you know, I've been wanted to 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.480 kind of question him being a clutch player, and he's 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.639 still got more of that to do, because you know, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.280 he this was one game, but he's you know, he's 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.240 got a good body of work leading up to this. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.800 The last couple of years, he hasn't been and the 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.679 team hasn't been as clutch, but they were on Sunday. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:37.040 And it starts with him he's a linebacker that plays quarterback. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.040 He's he's tough as nails, and he showed it in 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.920 this game how resilient he was, and um, you know 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.760 it was it was unbelievable, you know, just just the 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.640 way he kind of led the team back like that, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.640 all of them did, I mean, and it was fortunate. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.080 They were fortunate to win. But I thought, you know, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.360 Dak been I've been asking for and he showed it. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.440 When you show his stat line, he was thirty four 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:01.840 forty seven seventy two percentage completion and four and fifty yards, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.160 one passing touchdown, three rushing touchdowns, five rusgertes for eighteen yards. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.240 First time in the history of the NFL anyone's done that. Absolutely, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.320 rushing touchdowns and four hundred passing yards and then one fumble. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.120 Had a phenomenal day statistically, Dave, what's the storyline of 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:21.200 this game for you? I'm so disappointed by the energy 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.800 happening right now. And if we were all in the 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.039 same room together, I would have cut y'all all off 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.360 a long time ago. But it's hard to do over zoom. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.080 But like, are you actually kidding me? I mean, Nick's 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.720 one hundred percent right, The story of the day is 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.680 Dak Prescott. Like whether it's four because he wears four, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.480 four because he scored four touchdowns, four because he threw 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.760 for four hundred and fifty yards. He put the entire 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.600 franchise on his back in a hopeless situation, played like 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.560 an absolute badass mofo. I want to curse, but I won't. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.520 I just think it's so big because I mean, Dak's 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.760 done stuff like that his entire career. It didn't always 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.000 look that flashy, but even going back to his rookie year, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.080 he's done stuff like that. It didn't happen in twenty nineteen, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.600 it was. It's the story of why they didn't get 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.280 to the playoffs is because they came up short in 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.159 these types of games. Obviously games not they weren't this crazy, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.359 but they were on the short end of the stick. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.520 Every time they wound up in a one score game. 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:21.560 They flip the script against every odd, imaginable yesterday, and 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.359 Dak Prescott was at the center of it all. And 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.200 he's one of the most confident guys I've ever been around, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.080 football player or otherwise. But I just have to imagine 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.719 that he's feeling good today knowing like, yeah, I still 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.479 can do this. I did this six times in twenty eighteen, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.000 and here I am again pulling it out of the fire. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.839 My other big impression is, like, listen, a whole bunch 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.880 of stuff went wrong. There's a whole bunch of stuff 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.360 we can criticize, and we'll get to it, I'm sure. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.239 But like, that's why you're a football fan, Like that's 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.280 why you should love this sport is for stupid crap 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.760 like that. And if you can't just laugh at the 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.120 absurdity and just say wow, I'm I'm thrilled that the 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.039 team I care about got to be part of a 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.840 win like that, Like that's that's why you do it well. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.520 And we can critique it because that's our jobs. But 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.279 just take a deep breath and have a nice laugh 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.440 because that was incredible. Yeah, it's interesting day because you 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.360 wake up in mornings like this the day after games 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.320 like that, and it's so fun listening to people around 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.000 the nation responding it. And I'm not talking about football. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.080 I'm talking about people around the nation and other sports, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.000 other athletes, other celebrities that were watching the game, and 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.440 it's just funny just to listen to all the different 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.159 you know, everybody talking about this game and at the 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.080 end of it, how was get to win? Like that's 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.880 the fun of games like this is that everybody's got 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.800 an opinion. Everybody saw it, and it was just really, really, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.880 really fun to be able to be a part of it. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.240 If the Cowboys had played that game in a national 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.360 window like they usually do instead of at noon during 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.680 ten other games, we'd be talking about it as one 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.680 of the best regular season games of the last ten years, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.080 which it still was, but it didn't have that. You know, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.400 it wasn't on its own. If it had been on 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.680 its own in a primetime window, it would be it 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.600 would be on another level than it already is before 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.440 we get to the moments that matter. I do want 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.840 to stick with that topic of Dak Prescott. Nick, you 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.880 brought it up and talked about how how clutch you 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.600 thought he was in that game. I saw a couple 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.920 of different things on social media where people were kind 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.920 of like, well, he didn't play that great for most 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.680 of the game. I think there is a perception out 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.400 there that he didn't play great throughout the game. It 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.000 was just clutch in the end. I take exception to that. 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.720 I think of all the players on the Cowboys team. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.440 I think he was one of the most consistent players 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.720 throughout the game outside of the fumble. I don't know 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.400 that I had a problem with anything else. He'd be 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.280 at the rest of the day. What did you think? Yeah, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.040 I agree, I thought he you know, yeah, he fumbled 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.680 early on, But that was the story of everybody who 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.560 messed up early in the game. I mean they redeemed themselves. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.160 Not everybody, but I'm just saying, you know, fumbled by 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.840 by Dak, fumbled by Zeke, fumbled by Schultz, goodwe d 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.240 the ball. You know, Fossil, you know, I mean, Fossil 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.760 redeemed himself. And it maybe it wasn't even what he did, 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.600 his decision yesterday, but his decision a couple of weeks 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.640 ago or months ago to practice that kick. So a 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.600 lot of them redeemed themselves. But I thought, Dak, I thought, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.040 I mean, who comes from the tent to a quarterback sneak? 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.080 Who does that? I mean it's like, is your head okay, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.680 you have a concussion? No, okay, well then go lead 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.720 with your head and ram it into there to twenty 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.640 players and see if you can score touchdown. Go okay, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.719 and He's like, Okay, what he does? Yeah, what do 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.600 you guys think? You guys agree that, I mean pretty 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.200 pretty much do out the game Dak I thought was great. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.800 What did you guys think, David Amber The first thing 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.480 I did, the first thing, sorry, Angie, The first thing 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.160 I did this morning was watch you know, the NFL 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.480 put up a four minute cut up of all of 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.840 Dak's big plays. It was four freaking minutes long. It 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.200 was four minutes long, a cut up of his of 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.000 his completions and his his rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I mean 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.000 he fumbled. He was trying to do too much. I 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.760 thought the entire team was pressing in the first quarter 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.400 and it only made it worse. Whether I mean anything 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.240 from Tony Pollard making inexplicable decisions to take kicks out 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.280 of the end zone to you know, guys fumbling because 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.800 they're thinking ahead of time and they so. Yeah, Dak 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.120 does that. He's trying to do too much. He's trying 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.640 to turn a busted play into a game. Fumbles and 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.480 from there on out, honestly, what did he do wrong? 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.120 He had one questionable throw in the third quarter that 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.320 could have been picked. He was looking for Amari Cooper 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.559 on the sideline and threw into double coverage. Other than that, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.440 I don't know that he made a bad decision the 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.719 rest of the way. I mean, I thought he was 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.959 fantastic from about the midway point of the first quarter 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.640 through the end of the game. I think it's it's 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.040 one of the three best games he's played in his career. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.280 If I had to guess, as indicated by that seventy 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.360 two percent completion rate, that is a huge number. I think, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.920 go ahead, Amber, what are your thoughts. I was gonna 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.760 say that I'm the first one to make to start 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.200 the argument of whether how great Dak is and the 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.040 fact that he, to me, has always needed great players 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.040 around him in order for him to be successful. It 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.960 wasn't the case in this game, at least that's not 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.840 how I took it. The way he played, I felt 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.520 that he was regardless of the mistakes. Let's just forget 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.760 about that. It wasn't a situation where I felt that 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.640 he was forcing the ball to a specific player. It 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.960 wasn't a situation where he was needed to rely on 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.480 these great players specifically. And again we know cite Lamb, 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.679 Michael Gallup. They made great catches and great plays at 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.880 key moments, but at the same time, taking into account 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.719 the fact that he didn't have the starting two tackles, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.720 he was able to play the game. And there wasn't 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:51.120 a single instance where I was like, damn, Dak, what 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.079 are you doing? He was able to be a leader 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.200 he did. We know how much confidence he has in 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:02.280 himself and the way that he is not able to 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.160 get startled by the situation, whether it's better or no. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.600 We saw him get out of the feel hurt. He 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.960 had something I don't remember what it was, but he 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.320 was getting checked by the medical staff, and that he 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.959 got back riding to the game, made a play. So 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.280 he was just so consistent throughout the game as far 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.600 as the kind of leader that you need someone to 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.720 be in such a crazy game like that. So to me, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.200 he was absolutely amazing. What we're gonna do is we 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.079 have these moments that matter. We started the segment last week, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.760 We're gonna do it, continue it this week, and we're 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.920 going to go through some of the big moments of 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.840 the game. Obviously, there were a lot of questionable At 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.400 least I'll say this, there were a lot of situations 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.199 in that game where you questioned what the coaches were 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.720 thinking and what players were thinking. 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I got one of those, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.040 So it makes you go check that out on cowaspproch 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:03.360 for Derek. Yeah, is that not what it's for? It is? Okay, good, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.160 all right, So we're gonna get into the stop. Dave 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.480 we're gonna get into the moments that mattered here, and 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.200 I got four of them for you, guys. I'm gonna 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.400 walk you through these, and I want you guys to 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.360 tell me what you think the significance was of these 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.480 plays and some of the decision making that was made 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.840 in them. Let's start first with first quarters five to 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.240 fifty seven left in the first quarter. Atlanta's up fourteen nothing. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.320 It's fourth and fourth of Dallas twenty nine, so they're 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.640 backed up in their own territory and Dallas runs a 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.560 fake punt where Chris Jones attempts to pass to CJ. Goodwin, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.520 passes low, Goodwin can't make the catch. Do you think 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.720 it was a good decision there in your own backed 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.360 up that far in your own territory, down fourteen nothing 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.320 to be able to go for a fake punt. Let's 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.560 start first with you, Dave. This is a really classic 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.440 case of like your opinion being dictated by the result. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.160 And I felt it at the time. I was like, man, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.600 awfully early to be this desperate, like you have that 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.880 little faith in your defense that you think you got 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.320 to do this right here on this yard line to 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.000 keep this thing from getting out of control, like, maybe 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.280 put a little faith in your defense. They've already forced 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.160 a punt or two. Having said that, if Chris Jones 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.880 throws a better pass or c. J. Goodwin doesn't slip 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.880 looking back for it, it's amazing, and we're talking about 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.600 it like it's amazing. You know, the Chris Jones fake 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.360 four years ago where he ran for forty yards against 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.800 Philadelphia comes to mind. I don't remember the specific circumstances, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.600 but it was an aggressive call and everybody loved it 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.640 because it worked like Gangbusters, So I will you know, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.800 it felt desperate at the time, but I'll just say 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.080 I like the thought that they're going that they are 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.600 going to be this aggressive. We know if John Fossil 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.200 loves to fake punts and do stuff like that, I'm 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.640 in favor of it as a trend, even if I 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:54.440 didn't love it at the time. Camber, I liked it. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.800 I liked the call. I thought I'd whipping asking for 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.040 creativity and for them to be, you know, risky in 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.159 certain scenarios, and that's exactly what they gave was. But 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.600 it comes down to execution. I don't I don't know 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.359 how often they've been practicing this during their practices. Is 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.040 this something that the coaching staff was feeling comfortable with 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.360 their players making or being able to make that kind 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.360 of play. I don't know, but it just comes down 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.720 to the player. I thought the call was great, but 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:32.920 they were lacking any execution. Nickum, Yeah, I actually got 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.439 a got some win that this might happen. And I 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.560 had a conversation with someone about that. They he'll throw 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.959 the ball to CJ. Godwin or Cedric Wilson, and I 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.159 my question was why CJ. Goodwin? Why why don't you 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.639 throw it to a receiver. It's like, well, whoever's going 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.199 to be open. But you know, today's point that was 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.119 that was I don't know if it was desperate because 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.280 they were. That was like on Friday, They're like, they're 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.080 gonna do this at some point and then they're gonna 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.720 find the time where the look is right. So the 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.240 look was right, and and CJ. Goodwin's going to be 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.520 more open because he's really fast and he's one of 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.520 the best special teams players on the team, if not 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.840 the best, and so when he's running, I mean, they 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.640 know that if he stops, he's gonna be wide open. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.440 The pass was lower than it needed to be and 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.080 he fell and he didn't look like a receiver. But 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.720 you know, I regret and I was gonna mention that 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.399 to you guys. I was like, watch watch for this 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.680 because it could it could happen, because I didn't think 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.680 they're gonna do two fake punts. But I mean, I 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:28.640 just think it was a look they were looking for. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.240 And you know, Chris Jones got to throw the ball 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.679 better than that. Yeah. Actually I loved this call, and 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.880 during the game, I actually love the call because you're 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.159 already down fourteen. Oh you kind of want to get 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.879 something going and established some momentum and try to flip 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.920 the game a little bit. And to me, the call 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.240 was great. I mean, they obviously whatever they saw and 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.280 whatever they were working on, it presented itself there. They 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.160 just didn't execute it, and that you put on the players. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:52.600 I don't put that on the coaches. I think it 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.879 was a good decision. I think the timing was good. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.439 I just think in that situation, the players got execute 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.400 and they didn't do it very well. And that's where 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.560 you run into the issue of, well, the guy is 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.679 a special teams player and a backup secondary player, like 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.720 the likelihood that he's going to run a great route 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.840 and catch it. Yeah, you're kind of playing with it 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.960 a little playing with fire a little bit there. But 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:13.640 at the end of the day, I think the call 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.639 was right, and I think I didn't have a problem 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.080 with him doing it. Let's move on to the next 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.560 moment that matter mattered. It was seven or four left 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.800 in the third quarter. Atlanta's up twenty one seventeen, I'm sorry, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.120 twenty nine seventeen. Third and two at the Dallas forty one. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.480 Gage gets a direct snap. He throws a deep past 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.320 Julio Jones, and Jones drops it. Now, of course, that's 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.439 not what you would expect to see from Julio Jones 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.119 already in Dallas territory. Atlanta lines up to go for 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.359 the fourth down conversion, only to get a penalty for 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.159 having too many men on the field and that forced 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.800 them to punt it. My question for you guys, if 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.720 Atlanta scores on Jones drop, probably don't lose the game. 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.439 You guys agree or disagree with that call. Agree. I 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.760 just did a video for BOS. Turning to the going 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.840 of the game, that was the in my opinion, the 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.440 biggest play of the game. You guys agree that the 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.200 whole sequence of that, and then not because they're not 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:08.919 gonna get stopped on fourth and two. That's why they 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.159 did it on third and two, because they're not going 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:11.760 to stop you on fourth and two. Then stopped you 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.440 all game until they get a penalty. But it was 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.600 the stop the Cowboys needed. And then they flip it 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.000 in the Mary gets that long catch which they needed 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.440 a big, quick touchdown to go the other way. So 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.160 that whole sequence is, to me, the difference of the game. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:30.239 How shocked were you, guys? No, I just I have 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.119 to laugh because you know, there's there's a fatalist type 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.440 of Cowboy fan, and given how long the Cowboys have 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.159 been waiting to win another Super Bowl, there's a lot 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.680 of them. And people are always like, we never get 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.159 those breaks, that stuff never happens to us. It's always 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.840 us doing the dumb stuff. And I mean that that 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.719 is a break that is that was such a ridiculous 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:56.920 break that the best, the best receiver in football drops 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.960 an open touchdown pass and then you make a bow 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.120 and had a decision like that that robs you out 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.800 of getting points out or being able to go for 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.119 it on fourth down. Yeah, if either one of those 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.080 players goes in different way. We're talking about a loss, 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.440 there's no doubt in my mind, but you know where 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.640 that happens. I was talking to a coach after the game, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.720 and he was saying high school coach, not one of 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.359 the coaches, but he was saying that that happens when 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.040 you do personnel like that. When your quarterback goes over 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.679 here and you've got like gauge throwing it, it messes 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.000 up your whole personnel. So then they get in there 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.840 and then he thinks he's staying on the field and 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.520 all of a sudden, that kind of led to the 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.040 fourth down, which I didn't even I don't think about 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.000 that kind of stuff. But but yeah, I mean, so 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.120 it's just all small little things, a five yard penalty, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.760 but that that wiped them, you know, off the field, 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.720 and then that was the break the Cowboys needed. But yeah, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.760 Julio Jones dropping that pass like that, Like, how shocked 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.640 are you guys that the Cowboys were able to hold 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.440 Julio Jones to only two catches. You only had four targets, 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.840 but two catches for twenty four yards? Do you think 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.160 that was more function of the defense, which we're gonna 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.440 talk about the defense a little bit later. But do 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:02.800 you think that was more of the defense or do 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.760 you think Julio just had a rough day, Dave. Wasn't 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:11.400 he dealing with an injury he was? Yeah. I will 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:15.040 say this though, the whole thing a little bit. Yeah, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.359 But I will say this, I have watched I have 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.439 watched Julio Jones play a lot of football because he's 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.200 only been on my fantasy team a lot of years. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.520 Even when he's hurt, that what we saw yesterday is 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.400 not typical Julio Jones. He still makes plays even when 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:31.359 he's hurt. The guy's a machine, so right that he 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.199 should have caught that one, right, I mean, didn't he 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.120 just maybe Trayvon wasn't ready. Yeah. I really like him though, 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.040 Trayvon Dix, if he can just actually catch the ball, 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.719 he's gonna be he's gonna drop. No, no, no, no. 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:46.600 I didn't say it was a drop. What I said 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.480 was he makes some extraordinary plays, like him getting in 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.440 position to even be able to knock that ball down. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.480 That takes extraordinary talent, outing his ability. If he can 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.920 catch it, now he turns into that next level player 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.560 that they've been looking for. The cornerback position for a while, right, 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:02.760 I bet you. I bet if it was the other 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.000 way around, they might have called interference on it. If 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.680 it was the defensive guy, you know, if he because 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.280 he can't close someone's hands like that, can't you get 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.720 I don't know. On offense, it doesn't work. Hey, the 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.600 Cowboys got another break. They got an offensive pass interference 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.879 that they didn't call this week. Did you see that? 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.880 I mean it was yeah, it was Tiki ta yah. Yeah. 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.400 But the guy also flopped too, and you're like, I'm sorry, 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.040 you're not Jalen Ramsey. I mean, Jaylen can flop and 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.320 he gets it. You can't flop, you'd get up? Who 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.080 are you? He just lost the game because he was 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:35.280 trying to you know, get him, get him charge. Sorry, 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.880 all right, We're would have to go back, and I'd 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:40.720 have to. I'd have to. I'd have to watch the 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.520 tape for sure to see what the Dallas defense did 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.080 to Julio. It's fair to say he struggled because he 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:49.000 dropped a touchdown pass. But that's what I always say, 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.040 is like, I mean Ridley and Ridley gauge and Hurst 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.120 ate him alive. So you know, I think the Cowboys 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.399 probably focused on Julio, but it's it's not like they 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.720 shut down the passing attack, and they did score thirty 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.320 nine points, so something worked for them. Yeah, let's move 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.480 on to the next moment that mattered. This is fourth 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.560 quarter to twelve, fifty three left in the fourth quarter, 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.199 Atlanta's up thirty six twenty four, and it's fourth and 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.480 five at the Dallas forty. Dallas runs another fake punt. 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.160 This time it is a direct snap to Darry and Thompson. 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.320 Do you like this decision to go for it on 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.320 fourth down? Let's start first with you, Nick. No. I 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:29.320 didn't like that one because again, you've got Pollard in there, 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.280 and like, it's like, let your running backs run the ball, 0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.639 not your safety. And if fourth and five, if the 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.199 Cowboys lined up on offense, would they run Zeke up 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.239 the middle on fourth and five? I doubt it. I 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.679 mean they might, but it's like, if you're gonna just 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.840 do that, then why don't you let the guy that's 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.440 already got three hundred and seventy five yards passing? Whyn't 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.000 you just let them try to get five yards? If 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.320 you really want to go for it, don't give it 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.840 to Darry and Thompson to run the ball up the 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.920 middle with those blockers that that's not Connor Williams up there, 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.360 that's like Joe Thomas and the Schultz blocking and left. 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:06.440 So I didn't didn't like that call. Yamber absolutely agree. 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.080 I think that if that was their decision going in, 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.760 that should have Just like you, they always say you 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.320 want your best guys on the field. So if you're 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.600 going with that mentality that you're just gonna go try 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.480 to get those five yards, then keep your best guys 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.880 on the field and make it happen. So I completely 0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.080 agree with everything that Nick said. I don't think that 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.840 was the right call for me, Dave. It has it 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.840 has been a law. I can't remember hating a call 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:37.280 more than I've hated that, Like anything Jason Garrett ever did, 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.320 I can't remember a time where I hated something more 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.800 than I hated that. Because what's what is the benefit 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.439 of a fake? It's that the defense doesn't see it 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:50.119 coming right, Who in their right mind would be surprised 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.399 by a fake? When you're down by twelve and the 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:55.960 fourth quarter, you know you need to generate offense. You 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.360 know you need to stay on the field. You've already 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.119 faked it. Your special team scored Nator has a reputation 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.199 for faking it. Put your offense on the field and 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.199 just go for it. Nobody is surprised by that. I 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.080 hated it so much, and I mean Amber and Nick 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.240 already covered it. But yeah, I thought it was awful. Yeah, 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.160 I'm glad. Glad. Now I'm glad we all agree because 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.040 that's exactly the way I looked at it. I didn't 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.200 have a problem with them going for it on fourth down. 0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.159 It was all about the fact that there was no 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.560 surprise in doing a fake punt at that point. So 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.800 put your offense, which, by the way, your offense was clicking. 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.000 That was a part of the game where they were 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.960 actually moving the ball pretty well. Take a shot, go 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.160 for it on fourth down. Put your guys out there, 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.040 let them actually make a play and see if you 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:38.640 can get a first down and keep the change moving. 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.199 Let's move on to the final memorable moment that I 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.600 wanted to talk about. This one happened in the fourth quarter, 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.840 about four fifty seven left in the game. Dallas is 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.720 down thirty nine to thirty. At this point, Dallas scores 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.040 a TD on a pass from Dalk from Dak to 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.040 Schultz by the way, really really I thought, really really 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:57.960 great route. And we'll talk about Schultz a little later 0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.240 in the show as well, but I thought it was 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:00.960 a really great route. Though it was really great passed, 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.560 they convert, they get the touchdown, Mike McCarthy opts to 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.520 attempt a two point conversion rather than take the point 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.040 after touchdown. After the game, Mike McCarthy was asked about it, 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.760 and he says that he would prefer to know earlier 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.320 than later whether he would need to score twice, which 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.080 is an interesting take that I'd never really heard a 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.760 coach put out there before. My question for you guys 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.440 is do you agree with the strategy? Let's start first 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:30.040 with you Amber. No, not at all. I kept going 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.880 back and forth, and I wish I had I wish 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:34.320 I wrote it on a piece of paper because I 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:35.960 had it on my phone on my note and I 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.960 kept writing every single scenario. I'm like, let me try 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.720 to make sense of this reasoning as to why you 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.280 would try to go for a two point conversion in 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.840 this specific play at this time of the game. And honestly, 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.880 it came down to me not being able to make 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.240 much sense of it. I would have rather getting to 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.680 a point where I can tide the game rather than 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.760 risk it on that last play of the game where 0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:05.640 I'm sure we're gonna talk about it in death here 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:11.000 with the kick. But that's that's that's how improbable. I 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.200 think that they got lucky in that play and they 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.920 won the game because the Falcons didn't do what they 0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.879 were supposed to do. And I know that there was 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.240 some confusion there as to Okay, at what point should 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.399 you grab the ball, at what point do you go 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.320 for it or what? But they just got really, really 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:33.399 fortunate and it ended up working in their favor this time. 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.240 But just going back of it, I just cannot make 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:42.160 much sense of that call, Dave. Let's let's lay let's 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.960 lay this out and give it some context, because it's 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.080 I mean, this is a you could you could write 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.360 a thesis about this if you wanted to. Like, this 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.040 wasn't a willy nilly decision on Mike McCarthy's part. There's 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.240 been a ton of study done about this. The numbers 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.479 show that it is actually a sensible thing to do. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.720 We've seen coaches like Doug Peterson do this before. If 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.840 you think back to the Eagles Packers game last year. 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.320 I believe the Eagles scored to take a seven point 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.120 lead and Doug Peterson went for two and he didn't 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.200 get it. But again, the numbers bear that out, like 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.320 you can look at the charts and say, this is 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.360 what the numbers people say you're supposed to do. So 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.960 it's not like Mike McCarthy pulled this out of thin air. 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.600 There's a ton of stuff out on the Internet that 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.880 you can read about why it makes sense me personally, 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.080 and I will acknowledge I'm terrible at math. That's why 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.320 I became a writer, is I don't understand stuff like that, 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.560 but at the same time I can't fully wrap my 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.640 head around it. The idea is that, and Mike McCarthy 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.800 said it, you want to know as quickly as possible 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.360 what you need or what you don't need. So it's 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.400 almost like it's almost like Pavlov's or not Pavlov's dog, 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:54.200 Schrodinger's cat is like the two point conversion is just 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.200 kind of hanging out there in the ether, and the 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.600 sooner you figure out whether you have it or not, 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.560 the better off you all. And it worked in the 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:07.080 cowboys favor. They caught every break. It imaginable, and they 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.520 made it work. But in my mind, I think you 0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:14.480 have a better chance of kicking the extra point there, 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.959 and then it is an eight point game and you 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.560 take it down to the end and you either get 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.160 the extra point or you don't. But at least you 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.800 don't have to get two more possessions. You only need one. 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.880 And I can hear the analytics people right now. The 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.320 Cowboys tried that against the Jets last year and they 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.200 lost on the two point conversion. So it's not guaranteed 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.560 to work. But the thought that you're going to get 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.160 the ball two more times in less than five minutes 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.120 is crazy to me. And what's even crazier is that 0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.480 it actually worked out. Like you're talking about a point 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.480 zero one probability, and the Cowboys got it yesterday and 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.320 I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Nice 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.520 shout out there on Shrodden, just cat, and I love 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.280 that that reference. All right, go ahead, Nick, which I'll 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.240 just say all that stuff said. I still don't like it. 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.160 I still don't like it, but there's way smarter people 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.960 who say it's the right thing to do. So all right, Nick, 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.560 they can sit right here and I'll argue with them 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.560 all day. I don't care. I've said it one hundred times, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.640 Butcarthur can sit right here with the Super Bowl ring 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.400 in my face and I'll argue with him. A terrible call, 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.920 terrible decision. You don't do that at all, And I agree. 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.040 I mean, it's what they just said you. You need 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.800 to know what you need to do, like he wants 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.880 to find out what he wants. Hey, the Falcons have 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.240 scored thirty nine points on your ass the whole game. 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.400 You need to stop him. That's what you need to do. 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.680 And you need to stop him once, not twice. So like, 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:35.800 I don't know what else, what else. Analytics sound great, 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.560 but the game is telling you what's happening. The game 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.200 is telling you. And what I hate about it is 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.200 is that if you get the when you get the 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.640 ball back and you're down by nine, you got to 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.960 score twice your offensive. I mean, your best player is 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.080 Zeke and he can't really be a factor because you 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.840 now have to score twice. You have to run down. 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.000 It worked out for them, that's great, but to me 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.360 that I think, I think it was a terrible decision 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.200 to do that, and I see it happen all the 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.880 time now I see coaches do it, and I definitely 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.480 don't understand it. But yeah, it worked. It didn't work 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.080 because of that. It just worked out. It didn't work 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.320 because it's like, oh, they went for two. It worked, 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.160 they got lucky, they went they You can't tell me 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.120 you're using analytics if you're going to rely on an 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.160 onsite kick, which is what is the percentage of that 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.480 nine percent? Eight percent? So I don't know six six percent. 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.000 I mean, it's it worked out for them, But man, 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.040 I thought that was a terrible move. Yeah. It's the 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.760 interesting part here to me is I kind of see this. 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.520 I see the point on both sides. I was, by 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.160 the way, I was losing my mind when he did it, 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.440 thinking what was that? That is a horrible Nick I 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.920 texted you. I was like, I'm starting to worry a 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.000 little bit about the coach's ability to make the right 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.640 call because I don't know if that's a good call 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.760 like that just and I'm combining with it with other 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.520 calls that I've seen over the last two weeks that 0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.520 I'm like, it's another text that I sent to you. 0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.880 Oh oh yeah, Nick did say in the first quarter. 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:03.560 First quarter, Nick did say they were going to win 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.000 this game. But that's a typical Nick calling the kickoff 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:11.880 like that. Nick he does. Don't act like I didn't 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.600 put it on Twitter. You put it out, you did. 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.600 You absolutely do it, You absolutely do. But but it 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.760 was hinted on that that that player like they have 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.960 to stop him here because twenty four nothing. I'm not in, 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.320 but I'm in on twenty nothing, but not twenty four. 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.760 But but I think the interesting thing is what you 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.000 always hear from coaches. What I've always heard from coaches 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.640 over the years I've watched football and played football when 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.160 I was in high school, was you always keep yourself 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.280 in the game as long as you possibly can. And 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.680 that's the purpose of taking the extra point. You take 0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.520 the extra point, and you defer the thing of having 0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.880 to go for two until later because you just want 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.440 to keep giving your team hope and giving your team 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.640 the opportunity to know that, hey, if we get to touchdown, 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.720 then all we need a two point conversion, rather than 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.200 hey we need a point, we need a touchdown, we 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:55.760 need an extra point, and then we got to get 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.959 the ball back and go down and score again. You know, 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.720 you can make the argument that going for two actually 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.640 lost the game for the Falcons. Because they're up twenty 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.040 six to seven, they decide they just want to go 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.680 up a nice even twenty one points. Why, I mean, 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.240 just just keep taking points until you need it, because 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.279 it would it would have changed some things. Now you 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.759 lost by one point, yeah, the game would have been 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.680 a little bit different. But I mean, at that point 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.320 in the game, third quarters, just keep taking your points, 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:25.880 your points. I will say this one one of the 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.120 arguments that I've heard is, hey, you're gonna have to 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.839 get a two point conversion either way. At some point 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:32.879 you had to get a two point conversion here, and 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:34.759 so you're gonna have to go for it. So why 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.359 not go ahead and go for it early? And then 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.799 again goes back to what Mike McCarthy said, you at 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.040 least know where you are in the game, rather than 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.160 you miss it with the like in the Jets game, 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.200 you don't get the two point conversion and then everything's done. 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.759 My argument back to that is you're probably still in 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.600 the same boat. You still now have to go and 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:55.120 get an onside kick, which they were somehow miraculously able 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.239 to convert, and then go down to get a field goal. 0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.719 So I don't know that that changes anything. My point 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.600 is that you still put yourself in a situation early 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.120 where you did, to some degree make your team feel 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.640 like there was a larger uphill climb in order to 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.760 tie or win that ball game that you put yourself 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.320 in by taking that two point try early. I still 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:16.880 think the right call is to go ahead and take 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.160 your extra point there, Good Dave. I'll steal this line 0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.600 from my buddy Cowboys Stats and Graphics, which, like, you 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.959 should follow that account on Twitter. It's it's great, which 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.919 he said last night. If you can divorce yourself from 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.760 the idea that losing late is better than losing early, 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.480 you can open yourself up to this line of thinking, 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.200 which I appreciate that, Like, he's not wrong, but I 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.080 just can't get all the way there because I think 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.840 purely analytical people like they want football to be baseball 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.440 so badly, and it's it's just not for me, Like 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.399 some of these decisions don't happen in a vacuum. That's 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.600 a great point. If you go for two early and 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.640 don't get it, you run the risk of demoralizing the 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:06.319 entire team, which maybe that's not you know, maybe that's 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.000 not right. Maybe you should have a more professional mindset, 0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.360 but human nature is what it is. There are so 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.600 many ridiculous moving parts that go into every facet of 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.640 a football game that you can't approach it from a 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.799 purely analytical standpoint. In my opinion, love analytics. I think 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:27.320 they're great, but sometimes I do think like gut feeling 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.600 and all that other stupid crap come into play. Now. 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.759 Of course, the irony is that it worked out for 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.680 the Cowboys. It did. I think if you do if 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.720 you run that sequence, if you run that sequence ninety 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.640 nine times, I think you lose one hundred. I mean, 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.160 I'm sorry, if you run it one hundred times, I 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.840 think you lose ninety nine. But who am I to 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.840 talk too much trash? When they pulled it off, I 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.360 mean they really needed a miraculous moment, which was that, 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.839 I mean that an onside kick. Without that, then we're 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.960 talking today about the fact that you didn't give you 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.000 a chance. I don't think you gave your team the 0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.960 best chance to win by keeping them in a situation 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.760 where it could come down to that final two point conversion. 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.239 We're gonna go and take our final break when we 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.040 come back. I do want to talk about a couple 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.640 of players and how they performed yesterday, including Dalton Schultz. Nick, 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:11.839 you mentioned that last week. We'll talk about that when 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.040 we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:19.040 Radio since eighteen sixty five. 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Everybody else was 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.360 socially distant, and I know, it was a nice environment. 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:53.920 It was nice to be back in an environment where 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.799 you actually could hear crowd noise and it felt like 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.120 a regular game to me, as opposed to Week one, 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.280 that felt very very weird. Yeah, it where I was sitting, 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.319 I was away from you guys, but which sucked. But 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.080 I was sitting in a spot where the you know, 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.080 the window was opened. You could kind of hear the 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:15.520 crowd and somebody mum. But when they got the onsite kick, 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:17.600 I mean, that seemed loud to me. I mean, that 0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:20.560 seemed like that was not as loud as it could be, 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.920 but I didn't really notice. I mean, it seemed like 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.600 it was a big deal. Yeah, it was good. It 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:27.480 was It was fun to be in that environment, and 0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:31.040 certainly after so many, so many months of being isolated, 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.560 it felt good to be in an environment where there 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.000 were people and uh, and they were actually enjoying a 0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.440 game together. So what happens when it's really cold, like 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.759 in December, They're gonna keep them keep it open like that. 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:43.719 I think they will. Yeah, I think you have to. 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.399 I think you need to and a baby. And by 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.040 the way, even at that, it's not gonna be nearly 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.520 as cold as if you're doing an outside game in Pittsburgh. 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.520 And they managed to filter stadium during a normal season, 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:55.960 So I think, I think you'll be fine. They can 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:59.200 always have to play in Cincinnati and it's not gonna 0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.279 be that bad. It'll be all right. Real quick, I 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.040 did one too before we end the show, talk about 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.320 a couple of players and their performances yesterday. Dalton Schultz 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.719 comes to mind. He was a guy that we've given like, 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.400 we've talked a lot about how he's not the answer. 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.680 And I think when Blake, yeah you did you absolutely 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.760 cut him on last Monday, I think it was Blake 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.480 Jarwin goes down and I think all of us agreed 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.600 across the board that the Cowboys needed to do something. 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.920 They need to consider something. I know I was looking for, 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.480 pushing for them to go and look at Delaney Walker. 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.359 But yesterday Dalton Schultz shows up in a big way 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:33.960 for the team. He does have the fumble early in 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.240 the game, but he comes back. He has ten targets. 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.520 He catches nine of those passes for eighty eight yards 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.360 and a touchdown. My question is, at this point, do 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.440 you feel like the Cowboys, between Schultz and Bell have 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:48.880 enough at tight end for you to feel comfortable with 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.000 the tight end position moving forward for the rest of 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.359 the season. Let's start first with you, Nick, because you're 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.360 the one that called this on Friday saying you expected 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.239 Schultz is gonna have a big game, Right, Yeah, I 0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.040 expect us that our expectations of him to be a 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.200 little bit better. I don't know if I'm still comfortable 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.360 with that. I mean, I do think his nine catches 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:07.359 eighty eight yards was a product of the game being 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.600 more wide open stuff like that. I don't think he 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:13.279 is your prototype tight end to be the blocker and 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.840 catcher and all that stuff. Um, but he did a 0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.880 nice job and and he he did catch the ball. Well. Again, 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.520 I don't think in a twenty one to seventeen type 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.279 of game that he's he's the right answer there. But 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.680 I mean he's he's got a spot for sure. And 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.359 I thought he did a nice job catching the ball 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.919 and all that. Uh, he surpassed my expectations. I thought 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.239 he would be better than than he was last week, 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.719 but not not to this point. But I still think, 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.279 you know, he's not I mean, he's not like the 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.560 guy that's just going to be overpowering at the Lion 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:50.480 of scrimmage. Dave Um Well, I mean, I gotta give 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.759 him a shout out first, because yeah, I mean everybody 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.040 everybody killed him last week, at myself included. I'm not 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.840 like trying to not be part of that. Everybody was 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.719 very critical. Even going back, you know, people were saying 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.479 he might not make the team out of training camp. 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:07.279 There's competition, YadA, YadA. I thought he played great. No 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.000 disrespect to him. Like all I'm doing is I'm putting 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:11.960 a pin in it, like this is something that I'm 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.319 monitoring week by week. He played great. I don't think 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.680 at Lanta's defense is anything special. I don't think you're 0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.400 always going to be in a situation where you're just 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.120 absolutely airing it out all the time like this. Yeah, 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:26.920 I mean, Nick Nick is right. The stats kind of 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.560 gets skewed. You're probably asking your tight ends to do 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.759 less in the running game when you're trailing by two 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:36.040 scores in the second half. So I was really impressed. 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.759 So I'm not looking I'm not looking for tight ends 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:44.120 right now, but I'm also not just satisfied. And you know, 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:45.920 we're all good at the tight end position. But I 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.920 thought he was great, and but you still want to 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:54.040 cut him, just like Dave said, I'm gonna put a 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:57.319 pin on that one. I mean, it was great. It 0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.440 was forgetting the first part of the game, because everyone 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.960 played bad basically, but forgetting that, I thought it was 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:06.840 really nice. And credit to him for making the plays 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:08.919 that he did. It was nice to see him take 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:11.399 some of what he did during training camp and apply 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.560 it into an actual game. I was one that really 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.239 really doubted him and said I didn't think he would 0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.680 be able to carry that from training camp into a game. 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.000 So kudos to him. But at the same time, am 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.799 I fully convinced. Absolutely not. I need to see more. 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.600 I think the Cowboys will won't go out and get 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.319 it tight end. I think that after what they saw there, 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.160 maybe they just kind of stayed put for another week 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.960 and keep going with what they have. But I'll say this, 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:45.799 I don't think he would have a game such a 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:50.320 game against a better defense. So I think that next 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:54.440 week it might get ugly a little bit there. But 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.960 great job for him in this game, you know. I 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.240 will say this. One thing I think I've learned about 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:04.040 him is I think what I'm trying to convince myself 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.960 of is that he just is what he is and 0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:10.000 he's not gonna be that great all around tight end 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.879 that's a great blocker and a great pass catcher. What 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.080 he is is he's a guy that can catch the 0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.680 ball pretty well. He's a guy that can win when 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.719 he is the fifth option on the offense. So basically, 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.960 defenses are gonna say, in most instances, they're gonna say, 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.560 we'll let that guy have one guy like, we're not 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.560 gonna double Dalton Schultz. We got too many other problems 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.440 to deal with, and I think he can win in 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.480 some of those scenarios. So when you look at it 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.600 from that standpoint, this type of high powered offense which 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.399 yesterday they get the forty burger. It's something we've thought 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:44.080 that they could be since they got Ceedee Lamb Right. 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.360 So I think when you look at it from that standpoint, 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.759 and even going to Amber's point, I think even a 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:52.799 great defense a really good defense. I think when you 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.719 look at how they're gonna play the Cowboys, they're still 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:57.839 gonna be focused on a lot of other guys before 0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:59.920 they get to Dalton Schultz. And I think Dalton Schultz 0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:00.880 is going to be the guy that's going to be 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.959 the benefactor there. He's gonna be the guy that's gonna 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.040 get a lot of opportunities this year. And I think 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.759 in those situations, I think he's shown that he can 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.080 kind of catch the ball and buy a lot. Now, 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.840 I still question sometimes he makes some bonehead decisions. We've 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.960 seen that before when he's gotten on the field. But 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.120 that all being said, yesterday made me a little more 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.120 a little more comfortable in the idea that I think 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.839 he could play this role on this team with these 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.680 weapons pretty well. And it made me feel pretty good 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.000 about what they can do with him and with Blake Bell. 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.800 All Right, here's what I'm gonna do real quick. We're 0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.160 gonna end the show, but it's amazing to me that 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.800 we were able to get to an entire show coming 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.680 off a game where both starting offensive tackles did not play, 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.520 and that was not the storyline of the game of 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.080 the show on Monday. I thought you were going to 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.400 refer to the play that everyone's talking about, but we 0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.359 did not talk We did not talk about. But that's 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.279 another one that we're gonna get to tomorrow, so it 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.319 makes you tune in tomorrow. We got a lot more 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.680 stuff we got to dissect from this game, and we'll 0:46:57.719 --> 0:46:59.160 do some of that tomorrow. We'll also give you guys 0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.319 a bigger picture look at the NFC. So there's a 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.120 lot going on in this division and a lot of 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.920 it is actually helping the Cowboys, I think long term. 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:08.759 So we'll talk about all that tomorrow too. Then for 0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:12.360 Nick Even, Dave Helman, Hellman, Amber Garcia, I am Derek Eielton. 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.479 This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:21.920 Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.600 dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.