1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the position of Big Fish Small Pod. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: As always here in Big Fish Small Pop, we'd like 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: to get you these episodes in ten minutes or less. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: And as always here in Big Fish Small Pod, we 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: are presented by MPT College Consulting. You can check them 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: out at MPT College Consulting dot com. And here we 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: have a brand new guest, even new to the Miami 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Orleans media scene, Tyler Baronski. Tyler, it's great to have 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: you on. Tell the people a little bit about yourself 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: and maybe how it's been covering the Fish. First couple 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: of days in Spring. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Hey, Daniel, thanks so much for having me on. It's 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: been good so far covering the Fish. Just recently relocated 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 2: to South Florida. I've we spending a lot of time 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: in Northeast. Was in the TV world for a while 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: working with networks like Messing the home of the Red Sox, 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: but now on freelancing and doing more digital work here 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: in South Florida. So just started my Marlins and Media 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: tenure and it's gone well so far. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: No awesome, awesome, obvious with the Marlins going on everything 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Spring new manager with Clayton McCullough, Sandy coming back. You know, 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: with you going into the Marlins world, what are your 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: expectations for the Marlins this season? Well, what are you 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: trying to see for them this year or maybe what 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: they've done so far this off season? When you see 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: the Fish, what kind of team do you see? 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: I think my expectations are similar to theirs right now. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: We know they aren't trying to win this year by 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: any means, but I think the goals to see do 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: you have any guys can really build around? Like the 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: big thing Peter Bendix has done is refurbished this farm system. 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: I think twenty of the top thirty prospects for the 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Marlins right now are guys that he's brought in. So 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: I think for them, it's just seeing are there some 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: guys we can actually build around? And then maybe who 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: are really closer to our high end guys, because that 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: is the one thing right now you don't really see 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: any like high end can't miss prospect for the Marlins, 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: But do you have enough guys that you can build 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: a core around? So I know Connor Norby was mentioned 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: the other day and uh, Peter and Bruce Sherman's press 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: conference that Peter said, you know he sees all star 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: potential Norby, which is high praise. So you know, and 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: that I do think that's a little early to say 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: since like half the season in big leagues. But but 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: that's the interesting part is like, who are some guys 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: that can really stand down in camp and a lot 48 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: of guys will have chances to do so this season. 49 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you've been there a couple of 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: times this spring. You know you've seen interviews with Derek 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Hill and players like that. But what have you seen 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: so far this spring? Any player maybe come to your 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: attention that you're watching, maybe storylines you're following so far 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: in this early part of spring. 55 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one guy to pay attention to is 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: Max Meyer. You know, this offseason he's really added a 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: sinker and a sweeper to his repertoire. And this is 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: kind of a make or break year for him. Obviously 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: came up a few years ago top prospect argument, came 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: up a little too early, and then obviously in these 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: last couple of years. So I think this is a 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: really big year for him because obviously he's still just 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: twenty five, but you know, we've kind of gone through 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: the Gaunt line with him, so He's one name to 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: look for out for that I would you know, pay 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: attention to. 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, just everything with Max Meyer, you know, see if 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: he could solidify his spot and that starting rotation has 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: always been talks of. Hey Max can be a off 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: maybe a top end reliever. But you mentioned with his 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: new pitch repertire, maybe he's trying to establish himself in 72 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: that starting rotation and maybe's go a little bit on 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: that rotation. We mentioned Max Mayer. How do you how 74 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: do you expect guys like Sandy coming back now full 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: time playing mentioning opening they started yearie coming back by 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: the midway through the season, and it just maybe a 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of question marks within their rotation. They also they 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: just signed Kyle Quantrell, who had a pretty average decent 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: season with Colorado. Just you always have to look at 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: the course field back together. But what are your maybe 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: thoughts this rotation and maybe how you're even seeing it 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: this spring over there up there in Jupiter. 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the rotation could be one 84 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: of the strings for this team obviously that like you said, 85 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: there are some question marks, but the talent is pretty 86 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: strong across the board. You just have a lot of 87 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: people like Max Meyer or like Cabrera, you know that 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: what are we going to get from them? Because obviously 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: someone like Carrera is like been super inconsistent throughout his career. 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: So but I mean, Sandy's looked really good so far, 91 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: Like I got to see his first live like thrown 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: to hitters since the Tommy John last week. Look really smooth, 93 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: was throwing all his pitches. Obviously, you know, the expectation 94 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: is like how much he's gonna build his trade value 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: for the trade deadline. But but I think, you know, 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: they'll get a good first apt from him. So I 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: think the potential for the is there. It's just like 98 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: will we see it? But I think that is one 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: of their strong suits for this team. 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you mentioned Peter, you mentioned Bruce. 101 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: You've had time to you know, they had conferences prece Bruce, 102 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Peter and Clain. What did you hear from maybe those 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: three interviews? You know Peter and and Bruce were a 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: lot of questions about are they gonna be sellers already 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season, what's up with Sandy? 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Why are not you know, signing a majority of free agents? 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Why is the only you know, major league for a 108 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: free agent you signed just a couple of weeks ago. 109 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Clayin a lot of talk with Sandy pitching hitting. Just 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: what did you hear from those three guys and their 111 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: separate press conferences. 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it's funny like Peter the other day, 113 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: like obviously hyping up Sandy so much, and it's just 114 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: like the underground there is that which I don't blame 115 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: by any means, is just like you're selling like how 116 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: great he looks right now to other teams. So that 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: that was really my takeaway when I heard that. Obviously, 118 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: Bruce is also funny hearing him talk about like they've 119 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: made the most amount of trades or something like that 120 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: he said. I was like, well, yeah, because you guys 121 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: have traded away like all your guys lately. Yeah, but 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: I think you know, I've dealt with Clayton Moore, and 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Clayton seems like the good thing about Clayton he seems 124 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: very patient, which is what you need for this group obviously, 125 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: Like I'm sure you've been around him too. It's just 126 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: like he's really like a stand up guy. Obviously knows winning, 127 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: really good when it comes to base running, and obviously 128 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: has the experience even early in his time with the Dodgers, 129 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: like in mind, like baseball and developing guys. So that's 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: what you need for this type of group, So uh, 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, obviously, Bruce the other day also said that 132 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: like Clayton gave like the best inspirational species heard from 133 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: many since he's been an owner, which also thought was 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: kind of funny. I didn't get to hear much of that, 135 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: but I think so far, you know, Clayton seems to 136 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: be a good fit for this group and especially for 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: this period in the organization. 138 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, right now, we've been mentioning a lot about 139 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: the pitching, and that's always a strength for the Marlins, 140 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: whether it's down in the farm or up in the majors, 141 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: you can always rely on Marland's pitching to at least 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: develop fairly well and produced for them. Fish, But hitting wise, 143 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: what have you seen also up there and do But 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: I know you talked to Matt Murvis for a bit 145 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: newly acquired Marlin. Just who are some guys that you're 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: looking at also this Jupiter and maybe some guys that 147 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: may be in surprise fans this coming season. 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just so many wildcards with this team, and 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: so many guys that will get a chance to prove 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: their worth. Mrvus is a good example, obviously, someone that 151 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: had a historic minor league season three years. 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: Ago or two or three years ago with the Cubs. 153 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: You know, injuries and just inconsistencies over there kind of 154 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: led to him coming over here to the Marlins. But 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: he'll get a chance at first base. Another guy, Dealo 156 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Santos is definitely a big wildcard. They traded Jake Berger 157 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: to kind of open things up to maybe give him 158 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: a chance, and obviously his ceiling can be very high. 159 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: He just needs to cut back on those breakoun numbers 160 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: because obviously definitely a big gap there. But those are 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: two names. I mean, Ramirez the catcher and kind of 162 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: just seeing, okay, can he actually stay as a catcher 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: or is it gonna become this DH slash first base platoon, 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: Like is he strong enough defensively to be there? So 165 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: it's just this this whole team literally, like there's no 166 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: like real like set guy for the most part. I 167 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: mean four Test is like the main starter catcher, but 168 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: just like everyone's got a chance to to fight for 169 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: a spot and fight for playing time, and that's across 170 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: the board. Really and that's what kind of makes this 171 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: group a little interesting from that standpoint. 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, just so many variables, you know, on this team. 173 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: You have guys like hey, Sus Santez, who may be 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: the only really positioned player that really has some type 175 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: of role longevity there with the Marlins this season, and 176 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: it seems like everyone's fighting for a spot. If Xavier 177 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Edwards is he a sort of stuff? Is he a 178 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: second base? With first base? It's really a battle between 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: three guys, maybe even four guys for that spot catcher 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: it's Nick Fourtes, and it's maybe who's going to be 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: the backup? Who's going to step up? Is it a 182 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: Liam Hicks? Is Rob gonna come up and play for 183 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: the Fish again for the first time and close to 184 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: like ten years or so. So it's a lot of different, 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, the variables and different kind of things coming 186 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: out for the Marlins. But Tyler, just last question I 187 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: want to give you just what do you hope to 188 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: see from the Marlins maybe this spring, in this season, 189 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: if there's one success if this season ended, what's one 190 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: successful thing that has to go right for the Marlins. 191 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: What is what you think is the most crucial thing 192 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: that the Marbles need to do to have a successful season. 193 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: Like get a few guys that can prove that they're 194 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: actually like regular big league players. Like I said, we 195 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: haven't either been able to see it in a full 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: sable size with guys like Connor Norby, or they've just 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: been inconsistent throughout their careers like we just talked about. Well, 198 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: like Casey Stanche is a good example too, He's had 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: a wild coaster, wild card, you know, career so far. 200 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: So it's just like having enough guys proved that, like 201 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: they can actually be like real big leaguers to to 202 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: build a potential core around and go from there, because 203 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: there's just so much what if with this team, and 204 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: that's what would be honestly successful that some of these 205 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: guys that like Peter Bendix brought in from trades, they 206 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: develop and like I said, some of them can contribute 207 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: to the big league team eventually. 208 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have better myself, Tyler. I want to 209 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on, you know, on such short notice, 210 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, even you know, just starting dipping your feet 211 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: in the wild ride that is Marlin's media. Tell the 212 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: people where they could find you, if they can find 213 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: some of your writings or interviews everything you do. 214 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you just type my name Tyler Bronski t 215 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: y l E R b O b O r o 216 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: n s k I on all platforms, you'll find different 217 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: interviews I'm doing with players, making these like behind the 218 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: scenes vlogs, some long form for YouTube, some shorter form 219 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: for TikTok. 220 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: I try to. 221 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: Produce something every time I'm at camp. I was editing 222 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: one today that I'm hoping to post tomorrow on YouTube. 223 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: So and it's kind of fun to just like feature 224 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: the guys in different ways too in those videos. So 225 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: that's really Yeah, that's where you can find me and 226 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: see my work. 227 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: Awesome, Well appreciate it as always here in Big Fish, 228 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Small Pod, Go Fish,