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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in. And let's give a shout out to

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Speaker 1: our super producer, mister Max Williams.

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Speaker 2: Shout out big ups to Henry Kissinger. Yes, yes, you

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Speaker 2: on the other side, buddy, I.

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Speaker 1: Will reserve a public statement for the you know what,

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Speaker 1: for the press conference.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it.

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Speaker 1: You know, old Brown, I've been bowling in a previous life.

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Speaker 1: I had some international affairs stuff going on, So I

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Speaker 1: tell you with some authority, Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, just just just come in hot.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, and it's definitely something we're probably

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about more in depth on the other show. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we keep it a little breezier here on Ridiculous History.

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Speaker 1: We're in person, we're hanging out. The energy is lovely.

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Speaker 1: We hope this finds you happy and healthy, because this

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Speaker 1: is part two of a very strange episode about diseases. Folks,

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Speaker 1: check out part one and if you want to know

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Speaker 1: the origin of this, have you ever read Old Medical

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Speaker 1: Tree Disease or Old Like What Happens in like Transatlantic

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Speaker 1: movies and stuff. Someone has a weird disease, right, it's made.

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Speaker 2: Oh exactly, And I mean maybe got to go a

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Speaker 2: little bit further back, and I'm thinking maybe like Golden

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Speaker 2: age Hollywood type stuff where some kind of naval situation perhaps,

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Speaker 2: or some pirates on the high seas, someone's not eating

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Speaker 2: enough vitamin C. Perhaps the little vitamin D deficiency. Well

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Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. But what is rickets. It's it's

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Speaker 2: the D. This is not the curvy which we kind

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Speaker 2: of lump those in together. But when you're not getting

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Speaker 2: enough D, yeah, ladies, you get rickets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rickets. As you pointed out, Max, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: it might be somehow related to cricket. That is not

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Speaker 1: that is not the actual thing. Rickets is a frankly

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Speaker 1: terrifying disease. It's the softening and weakening of bones.

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Speaker 2: Right, which makes sense, like in terms of the automotopia

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Speaker 2: of it all. Like I just think of rickets like creaky,

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Speaker 2: creaking bones, rickety cricket well from any right exactly. But

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Speaker 2: like when I hear the word rickets, I think of

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Speaker 2: brittleness for some reason. And we're gonna get to the

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Speaker 2: etymology of it. But sometimes I just like to come

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Speaker 2: in with, like what how does it make me feel?

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Speaker 2: You know, right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is it is true, here's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Or I know someone who got scurvy the way they

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Speaker 1: were not a sailor. They're just very unhealthy, just didn't

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Speaker 2: Just didn't eat vitamin sea somehow. By the way, many

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Speaker 2: of these diseases we're talking about have kind of been eradicated, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you don't really hear about people getting rickets.

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Speaker 1: They've been skirtgated, okay, fair and mitigated, like.

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Speaker 3: You know, with like the balanced diet, like you know,

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Speaker 3: vitamin C is in so many things. Right, It's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I eat like, you know, those little like

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Speaker 3: orange wedges gummies like every day because it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: now I have like five thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they are. It's actually shocking they're good for you.

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Speaker 2: Like those emergency gummies, you know, airborne or whatever. You're

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Speaker 2: just chalk full of sugar, and they probably are somehow,

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Speaker 2: They're they're good for you.

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Speaker 1: I snarfed. I don't keep those gummy multi vitamins in

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Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, and I just like you said. I

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Speaker 2: Twelve. God help you if you have really tasty melatonin

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Speaker 2: gummies zombie walking through your life.

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Speaker 1: So let's look at this. Oh hey, and we are

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Speaker 1: joined with our returning guest, Alex. Circa big, big shout

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Speaker 1: out to Alex. She can't hear us, So, Noel, now

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Speaker 1: is the time you got any hot takes, you got

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Speaker 1: Oh she can't hear it. Okay, okay, let's never mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there will not be a public statement at this time Alex.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, about about Henry Kissinger, about Henry Kissinger or Alex sirka. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: read so far, and I've read several Kissinger's books. No

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Speaker 2: Updated, exactly right. Yeah, And I think there have been

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Speaker 1: Yes, that has happened. That has happened. As Mark Twain said,

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Speaker 1: reports of deaths canna be greatly exaggerated. And we know

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Speaker 1: that Kissinger did not pass away from Ricketts.

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Speaker 2: Look at you like you're a segue ninja over here,

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Speaker 2: slicing and dice and chopping it up. So I have,

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Speaker 2: by the way, and I believe Super producer Max Williams

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Speaker 2: have a vitamin D deficiency. Yeah. We were talking about

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Speaker 2: it off Mike earlier and I literally was looking through

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Speaker 2: and I saw a message from my doctor that I

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Speaker 2: didn't notice. Uh, it just says you your vitamin D

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Speaker 2: levels are severely low. I'm writing you a prescript for

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Speaker 2: a supplement, so I take that like once a week.

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Speaker 2: But I think largely in max and I conferred on

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Speaker 2: this and think it's probably true. It's because we don't

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Speaker 1: I recognize the sun is somewhat important, but I feel

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Speaker 1: Presumptuously pushes it pushes it just it's all anyway, rickets,

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Speaker 1: You're right, I'm Vitamin D is important and rickets is

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Speaker 1: a consequence of this deficiency. Now, we mentioned that this

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Vitamin D Why does that matter to your bones? It

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Speaker 1: helps your body absorb calcium and phosphorus from food. So

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Speaker 2: Sound. You think rickets sounds fun.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it sounds like a board game.

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Speaker 2: I was about to jacks or something, you know, or

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Speaker 2: like tiddleywinks. What the hell is tidle winks? Tidy winks?

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Speaker 2: it's Jack's or Pog's adjacent. You throw things you got

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Speaker 2: Did you? Were you a pog guy? I?

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Speaker 2: definition right here. Tillywinks is a game played on a

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Speaker 2: a pot the target, and a collection of squitchers, which

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Speaker 2: are also disks. That's all I'm gonna give. Okay, Squidgers

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Speaker 1: Tiddley winks very like a weird thing to for a

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mister Bolden, you have you have the winks,

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like bands from the early aughts that

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Speaker 2: was there was the period of indie music. But I

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Speaker 2: think you can do that. You don't say the rickets though,

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Speaker 2: You have rickets, Nathan, I don't know why. Apologies to

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Speaker 2: all the Nathans. It does sound like a child's game,

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Speaker 1: It also shout out to one of the weirdest, most

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Speaker 2: Somewhat Paul adjacent as well. Yeah, it involves sort of

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Speaker 3: How you make pickup sticks fun is you play law

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Speaker 3: and darts at the same time.

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Speaker 2: doing that. We love attention. What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's give it. Let's give it a go.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's we're not going to overpromise, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: let's give what's the.

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Speaker 2: Word prostrate, Let's prostrate ourselves in front of our at

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Speaker 2: the mercy of our kind listeners, Please write us nice reviews.

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Speaker 2: It helps with the algorithm, they say it does.

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Speaker 1: And you are the most important part of this show.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 1: We're so glad you're here. We hope you don't have

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Speaker 1: any of these medical conditions because ricketts is interrelated with

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Speaker 2: Conditions, much like adema. Right, it can be as a

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Speaker 2: symptom of a larger issue that can be much more severe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cystic fibrosis, kidney problems, celiac disease, inflammatory.

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Speaker 2: Bowel disease, which is that IBS.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, at what point does is the irritable

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Speaker 1: bowel syndrome turn into At what point does the doctor say, look,

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Speaker 1: I've been nice calling this a syndrome. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: a disease, you have a serious your bud is on fire.

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Speaker 1: But at what point does it go for being irritable

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just wondering. Is there like a spectrum for

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Speaker 2: thing where you point to the smiley face or frowny

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I b S and ib D are per

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Speaker 1: Chrome Colitis Foundation dot org. They're two distinct gastrointestinal disorders,

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Speaker 1: What's that place in New York City, the famous punk venue.

429
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Speaker 2: G Cbgb'sgb's, Like, yeah, there's even a band. There is

430
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: a band called the Mummies. That's actually a really fun

431
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: They dressed like mummies. But the momps, this one gets

432
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: to the so therefore it immediately Sorry for all that

433
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 2: California raisin stuff, but I think it was worth it.

434
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: She's mumps, She's mumps. She's in my head, she is

435
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: in my head.

436
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: This is one that I believe has been largely eradicated

437
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: because of vaccinations, which we'll get into in a minute.

438
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: But the momps, according to the Mayo Clinic, as an

439
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: illness caused by a virus, usually affects the glands on

440
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: each side of the face, then cause them to swell.

441
00:23:53,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: These glands, called peroted glands, make saliva, swollen glands, maybe

442
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: tender or painful. Mumps are not common in the United

443
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: States because of vaccines, So again, not eradicated, but largely mitigated.

444
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: Like you said, Ben, there's a pretty funny plot line

445
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 2: in the series Brooklyn ninety nine that involves the mumps,

446
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: and they make a lot out of the fact that

447
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: that swelling can also happen in the testicles. Ah, yes,

448
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: you get enlarged, enlarged testes to take doing this with

449
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: my hand, like vaguely hands, Yeah you know what I'm doing. Yeah,

450
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: I feel you, man, I got you back.

451
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: This is also this reminds me of cat scratch fever,

452
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: which is a real thing.

453
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: I think kind of makes you like, do the cat's bidding?

454
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Basically that's toxic plasmic.

455
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to think it might be more dangerous

456
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: to have befriended these cats.

457
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: They're not to be trusted, right so, but they're so interesting.

458
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: They are interesting, but they don't give a no no.

459
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: They are all gas, no breaks as far as how

460
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: they treat humans. And I think we can befriend them,

461
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, but if they were the size of tigers

462
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: your house cat.

463
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Would he When they're in chill mode though, they're a

464
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: lot of fun. But when they're and don't give a mode,

465
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 2: they they're pure chaos energy. They're unpredictable. But I have

466
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: two of them. I love them.

467
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got two as well. Max has a cat

468
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: will learn Alex's pet situation in due time.

469
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's not a pet cemetery type of things. Hopefully

470
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: it's not a pet semestery dark book. That is a

471
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: dark book. That's frightening. I really enjoyed it, very mean spirited.

472
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: No wonder it lived in a drawer for as long

473
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: as it did.

474
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably wondering, what will people think of me?

475
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: Will they think that my mind is disease? Well, they

476
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: think I'm a freaky weirdo. What you Steven, No, here's

477
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: the issue with mumps. Here's why you gotta get vaccinated

478
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: for it. This is it presents similar to the flu.

479
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: In the beginning, You'll have fevers, you have headaches, muscle aches,

480
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: you'll feel just kind of down. And it's not until

481
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: later that the clear symptoms of mumps developed.

482
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: The swelling. Yeah, that can be the glands below the

483
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: floor of the mouth. I that I'm doing it with

484
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: my tongue, so that's like literally the bottom and on

485
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: either side, I think the basement of your mouth. That's right,

486
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: that's right, the wine cellar there, it is of the

487
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: of the head.

488
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: And the problem with this is that because the disease

489
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: has become pretty rare in a lot of countries that

490
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: have implemented vaccination programs.

491
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: Why is vaccination so controversial?

492
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: I think it's the first it's controversial. Oh, we talked

493
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: about this their book stuff.

494
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: You know, maybe mandated anything medical is feels controversial.

495
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: It will be also things like the the horrific actions

496
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: of the tuskegeek.

497
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: That's for sure. That's for sure. This I would argue

498
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: that a non controversial vaccination. It's called MMR right, the mumps,

499
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: measles and rebella. That's then they give that to kids.

500
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: I remember the first shot I ever gotten. I think

501
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: I wept openly, not not out of joy, out of terror.

502
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: When I started hitting the road, Like when I went

503
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: to live in Central America. That was one of the

504
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: things that freaked me out just a little bit. I

505
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: had a card like a yellow vaccination can't you remember those?

506
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: And they had the list of the different things I

507
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: had to get vaccinated for, and each one of them

508
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: sounded like they were warning me that I would be

509
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: in a terrible situation like okay, danghay fever, yellow fever.

510
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Where we at with mumps. They started naming diseases I

511
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: neither I had neither heard of nor believed existed. You know,

512
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: I was like, this doctor, is just freestyle.

513
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Dang gay fever is the one where you poop a lot? Right? Oh? Doc?

514
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't know because luckily I didn't get it. I

515
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: think you get it from like tainted water. If I'm

516
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: the mistake. I think it involves like really explosive diarrhea, okay,

517
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: like dysentery. I think it's something like, oh, it's caused

518
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: by it's.

519
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Caused by the danngay virus transmitted by mosquito.

520
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Oh okay. Oh man, oh that's that's that's a rough one,

521
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: isn't it funny? How the stuff that's in tonic water quinine,

522
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: it was like a very important malaria curet and imperfect. Yeah, man,

523
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: I think about that when I drink quarter or two.

524
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: It's probably why I don't drink too much of it. Now.

525
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: No pooping and dan gay fever, well you're still pooping,

526
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: also known though as break bone fever. Yeah, that's pretty intense. Center.

527
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: That's intense, you know. And look, the mumps can be

528
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: very intense. And because they are rare, if you have

529
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: a suspected mumps situation in your life, you're supposed to

530
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: tell the medical provider beforehand so they can prepare, which

531
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: is kind of weird because can you imagine going to

532
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: a hospital and say, okay, I'm sorry, I have the

533
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: mumps or you know, my case as the mumps or something,

534
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and they say we're not ready for you.

535
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: No, we need time, we need time. Just hold on.

536
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: Good luck with your glands. Yeah seriously. Oh that's another

537
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: good band. By the way, at Athens band they're called

538
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: the Glands. Oh yeah, fun, fun name for a band.

539
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 2: But this condition was first documented or written about as

540
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: far back as the fifth century BCE by Hippocrates, the

541
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: father of medicine, the Hippocratic oath. You might have heard

542
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: of it, Do no harm? Is that part of it?

543
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: That's part of it. And you know, like Ricketts, this

544
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: has been around for a really long time. As Hippocrates

545
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: describes it, he says, swelling appeared about in the years,

546
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: and many on either side, and then the greatest number

547
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: on both sides, which is, okay, it's weird, little redundantly, yeah,

548
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: but he's trying to be specific, and he goes on

549
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: to describe the way these things look disused.

550
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: A lax large, diffused character without inflammation or pain. And

551
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: they went away without any critical son. That doesn't sound

552
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: so bad. No, it doesn't sound so bad.

553
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: And we're actually all very fortunate because so many people

554
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: get mumps vaccinations when they're kids. You know, you, if

555
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: you're hearing this now, you probably have a mump's vaccination.

556
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens so long ago that you might not remember.

557
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: Like I said, I do remember distinctly being terrified it

558
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: was the first shot because it was the one, it

559
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: was the one all the kids get. And now I

560
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: think maybe there are more, because there are some that are,

561
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, very like I think we you know, my

562
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: ex wife, who I love dearly, and we're very close

563
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: a little bit on the holistic hippiepe side, and so

564
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: we I think we're a little selective about the vaccinations

565
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: we got our kid, or we spaced them out, because

566
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I think one of the controversies is that there's concern

567
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: if you like overload this kid, a young child's system

568
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: and doom all at once, that it can potentially have

569
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: some adverse events. Yeah, so I don't think we skipped any,

570
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: but we definitely like spaced them out or something. Yeah,

571
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: because you can't. They won't let you go to school

572
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: if you get if you don't get some of these.

573
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And again there's with good reason, because

574
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: schools on the best days are just hotbeds vector disease

575
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: and dirtiness. There's all kinds of strange poop getting in

576
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: strange places, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I

577
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I need to get that specific strange poop.

578
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Another banger of abandoned strange poop.

579
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh geez, let's talk about the etymology, no, Like, where

580
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: does mumps come from?

581
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Well? I do love the expression. Mum's the word, you know,

582
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: like like a hush, right mum. But then I also

583
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: associate that with like the mummers in Old English culture,

584
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: who are sort of they would do these like it

585
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: was a it was a form of theater mumming. They

586
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: would travel door to door.

587
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, door to the door, and they would do certain

588
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: ritual skits or sketches or plays, and it is very

589
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: common in uh in Ireland.

590
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: That's right, And I believe Middle English era, right is

591
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: when that was the thing. So we don't quite see

592
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: a connection to that, but I believe they were silent

593
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: in many ways. It was almost like mime. If I'm

594
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: not mistaken, I'm wondering, you know, just you know, I

595
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: always do this, and I'm usually wrong, or I'm like,

596
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: I wonder if the atymology of this word has to

597
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: do with this thing that it sounds like, and it

598
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: usually doesn't, but in any case, it does come from

599
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: one theory is fifteen sixties of her mum to make silence,

600
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: to be silent. But then there's also a version of

601
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: it that's mom, an inarticulate, closed mouth sound indicative of

602
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: unwillingness or inability to speak, probably imitative as an ad

603
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: there you go exactly, then as an adjective meaning secret

604
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: or silent, from the fifteen twenties. Mum's the word again,

605
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: of course, seventeen oh four. But also mumbull is kind

606
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: of what you were doing, or the idea of speaking

607
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: in a jumbled, muted kind of way. It's hard to discern,

608
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 2: you know. So all these things do seem related. Mambolin,

609
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: which is to eat in a slow, ineffective manner, or

610
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: to talk with one's mouthful, which is like you know,

611
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: marble mouth, kind of.

612
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: Viral, right, right, right.

613
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different thoughts around this, and I

614
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: don't quite see how you know what, No, it does

615
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: make sense. Sorry, if you have swollen glands in your mouth,

616
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that would cause you to be a

617
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: little mumbly, yeah, mumbly. Okay. We also have some honorable

618
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: mentions we wanted to get to. There are, as we

619
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: said in the previous episode, there are a ton of

620
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: very strange names for diseases, and a lot of these

621
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: names are really funny and delightful, and the conditions are terrible.

622
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of things like one of my favorites. I

623
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: just got to say it, one of my favorites, brain fever.

624
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: I love, love love using brain fever in stories. I

625
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: love mentioning it. I've tried to use it as an

626
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: excuse to call in sick to work. I'm sorry, I

627
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: couldn't possibly come in then I'm afflicted with brain fever.

628
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that was.

629
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Speaker 1: That was before I shifted to just getting out of

630
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: social obligations by saying I have become strange.

631
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it becomes strange. So where are you not? Though? Thanks?

632
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: And brain fever is when a it's a dated term.

633
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: You see it a lot of Victorian literature, sort of

634
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: a general term kind of too right.

635
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, part part of the brain becomes inflamed and causes.

636
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: The idea was a cause of symptoms that present as

637
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: a fever. I just want hallucinations, even right, hallucinations. Yeah,

638
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: there's another one that we just have to mention. This

639
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: is so weird. Maple syrup urine disease.

640
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: This is new to me. It sounds I immediately am

641
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Speaker 2: picturing Kevin Costner peeing into that thing in water World

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Speaker 2: and then drinking it. Oh yeah, this is okay. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to conjure any images of you putting

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Speaker 2: your own urine on pancakes. But I've done it. There,

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Speaker 2: I've done it. Can't be taken back. Now what is

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Speaker 2: maple syrup urin? Wait? Wait, let's go back to this.

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Speaker 2: Why did you be on the pancakes because of the

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Speaker 2: Because because it tastes like maple syrup. Oh I know, yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 2: tell me I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: One of the symptoms is sweet smelling urine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but no one's necessarily gone so far as to

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Speaker 2: taste it because that would be gross.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Billions of people have lived and die.

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Speaker 2: People just yeah, it's some holistic kind of.

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Speaker 1: It's been used in some traditional foods in like North

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Speaker 1: Africa and parts of China. Yeah, yeah, it's it's weird. Uh, everybody,

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Speaker 1: look up centry eggs.

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Speaker 2: So oh those are like are those the ones where

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Speaker 2: like the fetus is still like almost fully butte terrified.

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Speaker 2: I've I've terrified.

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Speaker 1: I've eaten both and I will take ballute over centry eggs.

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Speaker 2: An that's terrifying nightmare fuel to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh excuse me, sorry, there, I am incorrect everybody. They're

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Speaker 1: not called centry eggs. What I'm thinking of is I

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Speaker 1: just have to be accurate here in all something called

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Speaker 1: virgin boy eggs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, would you like to turn back now? No? No, no, possibly?

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Speaker 1: All right, So back in the day, these things are

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Speaker 1: similar to centry eggs, but back in the day in

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Speaker 1: parts of China, you would create these things by boiling

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Speaker 1: eggs in the urine of young boys under the age

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Speaker 1: of ten HONGI dam, they're called uh. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we always say we don't want to judge or yuck

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Speaker 1: someone's yum. But at a certain point, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: have to say no.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say though, Man century eggs I'm intrigued by.

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Speaker 2: They look kind of good, and it says they have

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Speaker 2: a rich and indulgent mouth feel and a custardy sweetness

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Speaker 2: and earthy notes. And they look like a damn geode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like those you know those by say did crystal things?

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Speaker 2: You didn't like them? No? I didn't. I did not.

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Speaker 2: You didn't need the boy you'urine ones though? No, no,

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Speaker 2: no, no no, it seems like that wouldn't go over so

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Speaker 2: well today. Yeah, how do you go about collecting this ingredients?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how many questions that Facebook marketplace post

686
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Speaker 1: has got to be on a couple of government lists.

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Speaker 1: But so, maple syrup urine disease is a genetic disorder.

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Speaker 1: It starts in childhood. It can lead to all sorts

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Speaker 1: of terrible things up to an including death if it's

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Speaker 1: not treated. So don't again, don't let the nice name

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Speaker 1: fool you folks.

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Speaker 2: Does sound pleasant?

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Speaker 1: It sounds you know what, there's maybe if we have time,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about one more. Paris syndrome.

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Speaker 2: That sounds okay, it sounds fancy.

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Speaker 1: Paris syndrome. I when I first heard about it, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was the plot of like a Hallmark movie,

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Speaker 1: sure or something, you know, But it turns out you've.

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Speaker 2: Got mail right exactly. Or forget Paris. That's the one

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking with Billy Christ.

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Speaker 1: This is not a physical condition. This is a mental condition.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, you've been to Paris. It's a beauty well,

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Speaker 1: parts of it are beautiful. The culture is amazing, and

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Speaker 1: everybody around the world who is not French tends to

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Speaker 1: have a kind of rose colored glasses idea sure of

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Speaker 1: what Paris is. The problem is, turns out, a lot

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Speaker 1: of tourists over the years save up their whole lives.

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Speaker 1: They want to take this trip to Paris. They get

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Speaker 1: there and they meet the actual Paris and it's not

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Speaker 1: what they expected. You know, it's definitely a modern city.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of noise, very crowded. Like any city,

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Speaker 1: there are going to be some rude people. Apparently this

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00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: affects some people so much, this discrepancy, that they get

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Speaker 1: Paris syndrome. They get disoriented, they get shocked, and feelings

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Speaker 1: of persecution, and sometimes they hallucinate.

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Speaker 2: Cool, Oh you're in good. Hallucine is fun every now

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Speaker 2: and again. Have you heard of Stendall syndrome?

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Speaker 1: Stendall what is it?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Stendall syndrome, also known as Florence syndrome,

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Speaker 2: is a kind of a psychosomatic condition where you are

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Speaker 2: overcome and often even compelled to hallucinate by being exposed

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Speaker 2: to beautiful works of art. Oh okay, And there's actually

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Speaker 2: a Dario Argento film, the Italian Giallo kind of creator

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Speaker 2: of sort of the slasher Italian slasher film genre, called

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Speaker 2: Stendall Syndrome where this actually is a big plot point.

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Speaker 2: And I think we talked about it actually on a

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Speaker 2: strange news episode of Stuff they Don't Want you to

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Speaker 2: Know recently, where you there was a supposedly a woman

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Speaker 2: who was an orgasm during a symphony and there's you know,

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Speaker 2: tape of the sound of this person in ecstasy, and

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Speaker 2: it was conjecture that this could potentially have been that,

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Speaker 2: or it could just been someone getting diddled, you know,

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Speaker 2: in a symphony. Maybe it was Lauren Bobert. There we go, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and with this, we're gonna we're gonna call it in folks.

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Speaker 2: There's so many, so many different things could have gone on.

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Speaker 1: We could have gone on, but at the end, I

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Speaker 1: suspect we would have started making up our own conditions.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, we didn't. Who know, who's to say, probably

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Speaker 2: a doctor. Thanks as always to our super producer, mister

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Speaker 2: Max Williams the doctor listening to this show thanks to

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Speaker 2: I hope so, but doctor, what that's the question actly?

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Speaker 2: Thanks to our returning guest to Alex Sirka, Alex, how

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Speaker 2: do we do? That's always amazing? Learned so much good, good,

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Speaker 2: glad to hear. A huge thanks to Alex Williams who

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Speaker 2: composed our theme. Christophrasiotis here a spirit? Eves, Jeff cot

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Speaker 2: Uh all the hits Ben Thanks to you man. This

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Speaker 2: is a fun two part I'm glad we glad we

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Speaker 2: traveled down this road together.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that we got vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: Me too. We'll see you next time. Books. For more

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