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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast Won't drink the Zach Wilson Colley.

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Speaker 2: There is they're serving that somewhere from the Chris Westling

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Speaker 2: podcast studio. It's around the NFL Week eleven Draft preview.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Hansis. I got Greg Rosenthal here.

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Speaker 2: And little station note because I know we and everybody

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Speaker 2: loves Mark Sessler. And Mark has been dealing with a

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Speaker 2: reoccurrence of a medical condition he's dealt with. People that

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Speaker 2: listen to the show know he's had some issues with

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Speaker 2: blood clots and that popped up again this past weekend

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Speaker 2: and we are now waiting for Mark to rejoin us,

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Speaker 2: but we don't want to rush him back Gregy, So

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Speaker 2: we're hoping and we get him back this weekend, but

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Speaker 2: basically telling him to take it easy and get one

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Speaker 4: Yes, we love Mark, we want the best of Mark,

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Speaker 4: and this is this is the middle of the season.

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Speaker 4: We can handle it and make sure that the show

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Speaker 4: is the'll afloat for when he gets back and just

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Speaker 4: has a monster playoff run.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm leaving as well. So we're just

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Speaker 2: going to leave it to Greg. His dream is about

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Speaker 2: to come true. No, really, we need reinforcements, though, so welcome.

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Speaker 2: We welcoming in from Cleveland. Easy for me to say

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Speaker 2: where he just got in a morning pump did the

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Speaker 2: thing like filled up the pint glass with egg yolks.

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Speaker 3: Do I even have to say his name? You know

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Speaker 2: Nick, Chuck Pinch hitting Francisco lindoor bases loaded two outs

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Speaker 5: That was a classic playoff game back in the day.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've never had the egg yolks before like that.

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Speaker 5: I'd imagine they would be pretty gross. But I do

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Speaker 5: enjoy some eggs in the morning, and that was part

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Nick, we appreciate you kind of hit up Nick

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Speaker 2: on short notice last night.

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Speaker 3: And as he always has been, just always there for us.

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Speaker 4: Yes, good man, except for when he left us to

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Speaker 3: Briefly, do you remember that? Yeah, that was weird. He

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Speaker 3: made the right choice, come to the homeland. He's back, baby,

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Speaker 3: all right, Shook.

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Speaker 2: This is your first draft with us, so you're going

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Speaker 2: to essentially be picking in Mark slot, which is second overall,

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Speaker 2: and we got a big slate of games kind of

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Speaker 2: a weird slate, GREGI, because you have two monster primetime

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Speaker 2: games that we hit on the Wednesday Show with Connie Fox.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 2: Eagles Chiefs on Monday Night Football Tonight is Bengals Ravens

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Speaker 2: and I'll be on the recap of that later. So

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Speaker 2: those are two big games with winning teams. Now you

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Speaker 2: look at the Sunday schedule, we're about to break down

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Speaker 2: and Greg I count a single game with two teams

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Speaker 2: with a winning record playing. So we have a lot

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Speaker 2: of hals v have notts. But you could spin it

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Speaker 2: this way. How about this that the have nots here

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Speaker 2: and many of them are in getting into desperate straits

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Speaker 2: as we approach December and kind of can't keep falling behind.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of urgency in both.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of we're at the point of the

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Speaker 4: season where you get that like six loss, like for instance,

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Speaker 4: your Jets four and five. We're a lot of fans,

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Speaker 4: some of them overwrought, some of them right on feeling

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Speaker 4: like the season's over. It's like once you get to

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Speaker 7: But it's getting there. It's getting there put you in

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Speaker 7: the danger zone. So I will pick first. I have

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Speaker 7: the first overall pick. Oh, one more bit of housekeeping.

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Speaker 7: A lot of our locks and Shook, you don't have

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Speaker 7: to worry about a lock today, but a lot of

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Speaker 7: our locks actually came out of those primetime games. I

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Speaker 3: The took the Eagles against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Cestog also in that game, but it's a lockoff because

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Speaker 2: he's taken the Chiefs. And I got a note from

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Speaker 2: Nick Westling who said, Greg, if you were a real man,

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Speaker 2: you will go a lockoff against Nick Shook and take

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Speaker 3: I will do even better than that. Nick.

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Speaker 4: I am gonna do a lockoff, but I'm gonna do

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Speaker 4: a lockoff against your team, the Cincinnati Bank.

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Speaker 3: I have a lockoff with Dan Hands about that Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 4: This is what happens when you don't look at the

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Speaker 4: full slate before the Wednesday show. I woke up this morning,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't really like it.

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Speaker 3: I lock it up.

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Speaker 2: It's a lockoff, and really that sets up a double

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Speaker 3: I'm so buried in the standings.

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Speaker 2: My only chance is to win things like lockoff, so

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Speaker 2: the urgency. Listen, it's me and Joe Burrow versus the world.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. Tonight we'll see what happens. All right,

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the first overall pick presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, if there was a home run,

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Speaker 2: all over because I have the first overall pick. And

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Speaker 2: you could say, oh, Steelers Brown's that's there. It is,

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Speaker 3: I just can't do it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't excite me as much, and I know it

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Speaker 2: might excite some other peoples that do do this podcast more.

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Speaker 2: I will go with my team, the New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: in desperate straits, heading to Orchard Park to face the Bills.

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Speaker 2: And you know, listen, let's start with the Bills. There

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Speaker 2: now without a touchdown. Zach Wilson has five touchdown passes

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Speaker 3: Shook. So here's the situation.

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Speaker 2: Now you have the Jets who should be making changes

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Speaker 3: Both teams desperate for a win here here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what this comes down to you, at least in

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Speaker 5: my opinion, is is a change worth a change just

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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Anymore, you're so part.

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Speaker 3: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 6: Just quenching enough?

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Speaker 3: Why are doing this? Shook?

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Speaker 2: They can't score and you can't like because he makes

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Speaker 3: People do drink the kool aid.

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Speaker 2: It's coming from Florim Park and people saying, oh, don't

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a greater thing.

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Speaker 2: And yes it's not just him, but it's it's long

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Speaker 2: And that's the frustrating thing because I think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm having flashbacks to Week one when we previewed

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Speaker 4: he's basically great in every other matchup, and against this

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Speaker 3: These are the defenses.

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Speaker 4: You've gone against the Giants, one of the very worst

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Speaker 4: So they're doing nothing against mediocre defenses. Buffalo, this is

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Speaker 2: The Jets have more turnovers than touchdowns six to five inside.

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Speaker 2: They are the fourth lowest third down conversion rate in

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this is set up well shook for a

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Speaker 2: they're mad they made this change. They get maybe some

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Speaker 3: But can we trust the Bills at this point, especially

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Speaker 2: We've watched so many games when we were in London, Shoke,

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Speaker 2: you did it with Claybound that the Sunday night game

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Speaker 3: You never know what version of this team shows up

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my biggest issue with them is they don't

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Speaker 5: That explained a lot of why they fired Ken Dorsey,

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Speaker 5: and you think it should be a get right game

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Speaker 5: at least in your defensive matchup as opposed to what

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Speaker 5: only thing that's kept them in any game, and the

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Speaker 5: I'm not confident at all, Not to mention the fact

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Speaker 6: Well now those mistakes have bled over into other games.

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Speaker 5: In the Monday Night's game against the Broncos, you look

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Speaker 3: The over under here is thirty nine and a half.

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Speaker 4: That's too high under there in the seven the Bills

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Speaker 3: This is not lockable. I would not have wanted to anyways.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was crazy when they were seven and

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Speaker 3: They didn't even win the game. Straight up.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a lot of disrespect for the Jets

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Speaker 4: little late for either He's not quite done but getting

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Speaker 3: We got to move on.

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Speaker 2: But I'll I just want to ask one question you, Greg,

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Speaker 2: going to be the change? Run the ball more, I guess.

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Speaker 2: But they were running. They were running the ball. Guy,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like that's what McDermott wants. But they

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Speaker 2: he did essentially hand pick Dorsey as the guy. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's the biggest message McDermott could send because he's not

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Speaker 3: A lot of the inconsistency.

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Speaker 4: So you get rid of his guy to send a shot,

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Speaker 3: So that's too.

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Speaker 3: All right, chuck your up second overall pick.

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Speaker 6: All right, well you left this gift to me.

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Speaker 5: The one game between teams with winning records, that is

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Speaker 5: Brown Steelers going over on the shore. I had a

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Speaker 6: It's neither here, northy.

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Speaker 5: That's what they'll play the football game right along one

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Speaker 5: of the great lakes. And unfortunately for the Browns, some

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Speaker 5: not great news delivered yesterday with Deshaun Watson season ending

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Speaker 5: shoulder injury and subsequent surgery. Now they're turning to Dorian

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Speaker 5: Thompson Robinson, which means this game went from being an

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean they were yeah, four, I think they were three,

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Speaker 5: That's that's what Watson is even, you know, in his

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Speaker 5: up and down season. That's what he was worth. One

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Speaker 5: What do they do to Pittsburgh's offense. Pittsburgh's offense, which

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Speaker 5: don't know what DCR is going to do. So I

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Speaker 5: have no idea what this Brown's offense is going to

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Speaker 3: The over under is a joke on this game. It's

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Speaker 4: We don't normally say the over under for every game,

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Speaker 3: Is a historically low number. I get it.

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Speaker 4: I have more optimistic optimism about Dorian Thompson Robinson number one,

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Speaker 4: There really was a lot of internal excitement that like.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, I tell you they have a bad eye.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm just saying, like he should tell me. He

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Speaker 4: So I guess I'm just not assuming that he's a

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Speaker 3: The last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm just fascinated by this team and Stefanski's coaching

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Speaker 4: that they'll at least be respectable, kind of like they

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Speaker 3: Walker. It's like they weren't the worst offense in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it should also be pointing out

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Speaker 2: that this is a defense that's getting better making plays

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Speaker 2: They are averaging just three hundred and eighteen yards per

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Speaker 3: That's the fewest in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They rank last in point differential negative twenty six and

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Speaker 3: Per game this season.

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Speaker 2: So they are playing with fire and they're getting by

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Speaker 3: They have a plus ten differential.

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Speaker 2: They're tymas Cincinnati for number one eighteen takeaways, and that's

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Speaker 2: what's gonna come down to. I think in this game

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Speaker 4: Right, Nick, I want your take on the Steelers offense

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Speaker 4: because I actually think they've looked much better since thereby

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Speaker 4: that those stats, yes they have in top four hundred

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Speaker 4: who does the Chargers game. He's the Charger when Smith

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Speaker 4: does the No, it's just it's also Jeremiah used to

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Speaker 4: be a scout. You're right up, Yeah, used to be

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Speaker 3: I think the info is off.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, Jalen Warren, they they studish out Jeremiah. They

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Speaker 4: started Jalen Warren over Naje Airis. They like announced them

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Speaker 4: over and Pick. It's been better actually since their bye week.

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Speaker 4: I just went to check it. EPA per play on

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Speaker 4: offense eleven doesn't surprise me, Nick, because they're actually moving

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Speaker 3: They're not explosive.

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Speaker 4: They don't score touchdowns, but almost all their drives have

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Speaker 4: not that bad on offense. Am I crazy?

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Speaker 6: No, You're not crazy.

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Speaker 5: And I think you just laid out exactly why they've

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Speaker 3: Made you make the All Combined Team.

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Speaker 2: Shook, Yes, I do. I know you would appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Shooky because nobody knows line play better than you. The

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a great segue into why it really

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Speaker 6: In the last week.

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Speaker 5: And I think that going to Warren is your more

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Speaker 5: ideal thing to do. He's just got more juice in

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Speaker 6: To shoulder the load.

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Speaker 5: It's not to say that, nag, he's not going to

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Speaker 5: a lot because when they couldn't run the football, when

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Speaker 5: his games. Yeah he's kind of, you know, kept them

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00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 5: going a little bit, but he's turned the ball over

443
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 5: a ton. This is Steelers defense that's going to turn

444
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,399
Speaker 5: you over. And if their offense has gotten even a

445
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 5: little bit better, suddenly you're on the flip side of that,

446
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 5: and you're looking at an uphill battle.

447
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,439
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be interesting.

448
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 2: Guy, Greg, you wanted PJ. Walker to be a good

449
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,880
Speaker 2: so bad he's your guy.

450
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 4: I was pretty hot. I was pretty excited about DTR

451
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 4: in the preseason. I have some tweets I regret about that,

452
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 4: so uh, I'm excited. I just you know, I wish

453
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 4: for him that he had easier matchups in his first

454
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,959
Speaker 4: two games, division matchups against good defense.

455
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Speaker 3: The third overall pick goes.

456
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Speaker 4: To Greg Okay, I am going to take the Houston

457
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 4: Texans nearly the team of at L five point favorites

458
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: at home against the Cardinals, and uh surprise, they're only

459
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 4: five point favorites that that week. That is uh yeah,

460
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Speaker 4: that is what you're saying. That's a bad three pick.

461
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: No, no, it's it just tells you a lot about

462
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 2: the week.

463
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think you're right. My next pick actually

464
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 4: maybe is a better game. But this one is kyler

465
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 4: ye and this one has CJ, so just looking for

466
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 4: entertainment value early. I think this is gonna be a

467
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 4: watchable game, and I think you know, we've talked about

468
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 4: how fun the Texans are to watch every week. Stroud

469
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 4: is better over the last few weeks, I believe, cause

470
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 4: the line is healthier. That's made a huge difference for them.

471
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 4: And I think about this matchup against the Cardinals and

472
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 4: their defense, which does not get a lot of pressure

473
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 4: on you. Stroud has gone from like good if by

474
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 4: the eye test and good on film, so like the

475
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 4: numbers are outrageous because oh by the way he has

476
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 4: an all Pro left tackle.

477
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 3: And the rest of the line is healthy.

478
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 4: Shack Mason's playing well this year, and they're in a

479
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 4: different spot, and you're going against a Cardinals defense that

480
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: is still terrible, Like there still can't stop anyone, including

481
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 4: even the Falcons last week, And so I think this

482
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 4: is gonna be a fun game to go watch. My

483
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: guy Tank Dell be better than anyone gave him any

484
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 4: right to be. I think it's like it's been a

485
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 4: fun little story Nick, but I think he has a

486
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 4: little more staying power as like a difference making wide receiver.

487
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Speaker 5: Your guy my guy another.

488
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm on fire.

489
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 5: He's one of the receivers that I thought would make

490
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 5: the quickest jump in the NFL because his route running

491
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 5: is so precise.

492
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 6: He's in great sync with CJ.

493
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: Stroud.

494
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Speaker 5: They're really fun pairing to watch, and c J. Stroud's

495
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: a blast to watch with everybody. He throws the football too.

496
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Speaker 5: It's been Noah Brown for the last two weeks because

497
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 5: he didn't have Nico Collins.

498
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 3: Last week, most likely Nico Collins missing practice.

499
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Speaker 6: He got hurt and that doesn't worry me at all.

500
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, not in this matchup. At least.

501
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think it go ahead.

502
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 3: No, I was keeping finished that point.

503
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's interesting because you have two quarterbacks

504
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 5: that are on trajectories in this game, with CJ, who's

505
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 5: having a great year, who's gonna win Offensive Rookie of

506
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 5: the Year. But then you have Kyler, who you know,

507
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 5: he didn't throw a touchdown pass in his return game,

508
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: but he looked good, like he looked fresh, healthy, could

509
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 5: operate this offense, and you could tell how badly the

510
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: Cardinals needed him. So I'm not counting the Cardinals out

511
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 5: of this game, but I think the quarterback do you know,

512
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 5: the battle here is just really intriguing for a game that,

513
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 5: on paper otherwise doesn't seem really all that captivating.

514
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did like and there was a quote

515
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: along those lines with a conversation Gan and Kyler had

516
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: before his return, you know like basically, turn me loose,

517
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: let me be Kyler. I'd want to be a minimized

518
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: version of myself to protect my body. They're going to

519
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: really get a look at him here, so we're going

520
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: to see if he continues to move well, because I

521
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: thought he really did look good in that first game

522
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: on the Texan side. Yeah, we talked about Noah Brown,

523
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: who's producing like I don't know, ceedee lamb the last.

524
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Speaker 3: Couple of weeks.

525
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't exactly expect that to continue. But I think

526
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: that's such a sign and give Noah Brown a ton

527
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: of credit, but that when you have a big time quarterback,

528
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: how he can elevate players from Jags to something much

529
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: more in the running game. I want to see this

530
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: continues because there was a lot of excitement. Excitement's a

531
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: strong word around Damian Pierce, but an idea that Pierce

532
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 2: was a guy that could be a Pro Bowl level

533
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: running back or something in that world, and it really

534
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: didn't happen, and then he got beat up. He's missed

535
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: two games with an ankle. Devin Singletary has a huge

536
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: game last week. If they can really greg get the

537
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: running game in concert with Stroud, we.

538
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: Are cooking and we might actually have something for real

539
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: here in use. Yeah.

540
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to win this division.

541
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: They beat the Jaguars already. I don't think the Jaguars

542
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 4: are great, and this is an interesting test, kind of

543
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: a first test for them. They're on this role, they're

544
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: favored in this game. They need it. To get to

545
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: six and four and really get themselves entrenched in this

546
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: playoff race. You can't slip up. And the thing that's

547
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: going to make the difference for me for them down

548
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 4: the stretch. Can their defense matter. Like they've been a

549
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 4: very up and down defense. Some days they'll they'll create

550
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: a lot of plays. Some days they've been steamrolled, like

551
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 4: against Tampa Bay. And if Demiko Ryans gets that group,

552
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 4: and it's a very young team, they've played more rookies

553
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: overall than snaps than any team in the NFL. If

554
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 4: they can get their defense to matter a little bit,

555
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: to be feisty down the stretch, to be average or

556
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: a little bit better, then we're talking about a team

557
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: that can go ahead and win a division shook and

558
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: can make some noise.

559
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

560
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 5: I think the quarterback play alone, plus a defense that

561
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: has some potential gets to the conversation. They're a game

562
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: behind the Jaguars right now, and if they rolled the

563
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 5: ball out right now and play it, I wouldn't I

564
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 5: would have a tough time picking either team. In fact,

565
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: I might even lean Texans just with the way they've

566
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: been playing.

567
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: As I mean, theynced them the first time too, is

568
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of a kind of like, oh, hey,

569
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 4: this is it.

570
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: I just think of a symmetry.

571
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: They just missed out on the first overall pick and

572
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: then took stroud of the two. They just missed out

573
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: on being the team of ATM. They finished second there too.

574
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: The chip on the shoulder of the Easton Texans is

575
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on.

576
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: His straight home games, including the Jaguars next week. So

577
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: that's a big game next week. Okay, I am going

578
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: to take the Seahawks a one point favorite. Across the

579
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: sidewalk against the ramsay always one of my favorite matchups.

580
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: I went and when they used to remember they used

581
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: to fly me to games sometimes to like just as a.

582
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: Red I think about it all the time, bitch me.

583
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: I was there when the Rams won the division in

584
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: Seattle years back. And I always think Sean McVay owns

585
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, and it happened again in Week one that

586
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: he's owned this matchup in general. So why I'm a

587
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: little I'm a little surprised the Seahawks are are one

588
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 4: point favorites here because the Rams are three and six,

589
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 4: the Seahawks are six and three. But I don't see

590
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 4: these teams as too far apart when you have a

591
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 4: healthy Matthew Stafford who is practicing fully this week. He

592
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: is back and it is a monster game for both

593
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: these teams. If the Rams want any hope of kind

594
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 4: of sneaking into the seven race, they got to win

595
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: this week. They got the Cardinals and then dtr the

596
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: next week, potential for a run the Seahawks after this

597
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: week have forty nine ers at Dallas at forty nine

598
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: ers Eagles. It could get gotta have it dark if

599
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: you don't win this game, and I can't imagine shuck that.

600
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: Like Seahawks fans feel incredibly confident about this game because

601
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: they're not rushing the passer well. And if you don't

602
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: get after Stafford, he can do things like what happened

603
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: in week one when it was the Pooka Nakua breakout party.

604
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: Now he's got Pooka and Cooper Cup to go against

605
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: this defense.

606
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: What you mean he didn't see Leonard Williams first sack

607
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 5: as the Seahawks last week?

608
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: What's going on? Okay, I didn't see it a lot.

609
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. It wasn't that excit.

610
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 6: You're absolutely You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right.

611
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 5: I was curious about this line because if you look

612
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: at the Rams on the surface, you think, well, the

613
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 5: Seahawks are in a better position then, But they got

614
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 5: the return of Matt Stafford at the worst possible time.

615
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: I mean, they could have had Brett Rippon, they could

616
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: have had anybody else. They signed off the street play

617
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: quarterback for the Rams, and you think it's an easy

618
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: Seahawks win. But because Stafford comes back, all of a sudden,

619
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 5: everything is back and play. And you talked about the

620
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: history with Sean McVay versus the Seahawks, So I think

621
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: that kind of adds an element of surprise and intrigue

622
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 5: to this game that otherwise on paper, doesn't look all

623
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 5: that great. I'm just happy to see Stafford back. I

624
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 5: hope he's very healthy. I want to see him throw

625
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: the ball down the few.

626
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: These are two entertaining teams to watch. They can throw

627
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 4: the we could.

628
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: We could understand the Seahawks side of it, but yes,

629
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: you have there's a Rams rosy tax i. But with

630
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: Stafford back, yes, I just hope he comes back and

631
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: he's Stafford that we saw earlier in the season, and

632
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: not a guy that's a thirty something quarterback who's starting

633
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: to get beat up as the season goes along because

634
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: he has been there's an issue with you know, keeping

635
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: him clean.

636
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: Here.

637
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: He's been pressured on over forty two percent of his

638
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: dropbacks this year.

639
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: That's third highest in the NFL.

640
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: That can't be happening with Stafford and he's not the

641
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: type of quarterback that can endure that. And Seattle's the

642
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: data points backs up that Seattle has a pass rush

643
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: here that they they're top five in sacks.

644
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: They I swear it's all from the Giants game. It's

645
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: like they got fourteen sacks that day and it was

646
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: like that it their top ten in at sack percentage race.

647
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: So it's not like they're they're foreign to getting to

648
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: the quarterback. But I think that's the key here.

649
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: And I'll be watching to see if Stafford actually looks

650
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: like Stafford because the rams being watchable at all kind

651
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: of hinges on him.

652
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: Yes, and Gino Silmer similarly, like most quarterbacks, it's all

653
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: about the pressure rate. Like he entered last week, Dan,

654
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: I think it was top four in terms of the

655
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: pressure rate he's faced this year, and he's just not

656
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: the same guy. He's not making decisions. He's trying to

657
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 4: get rid of the ball. The Rams don't have a

658
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: great passers. They have Aaron Donald, they have Byron Young,

659
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: but they're inconsistent overall as a team. If you protect Gino,

660
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: you can build on what happened last week. So kind

661
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: of whichever team to me can get a little heat.

662
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: The Seahawks have more money invested, more picks invested up front,

663
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: like they should be better and should get after stafforg.

664
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Speaker 4: I guess I like the Seahawks to even it out,

665
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: but I don't feel confident in this at all. Shook,

666
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: who would you pick?

667
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Seahawks.

668
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: It's contingent upon whether the Seattle coaching staff gets a

669
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: little bit more of the rollout game going for Geno.

670
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: It's not that it's as great at strength necessarily, but

671
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna have to roll them away from

672
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: some interior pressure. And you know, you saw that touchdown

673
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 5: pass and that highlight there that that would look good

674
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 5: if they did that a little bit more often instead

675
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 5: of asking him to just drop back and find somebody.

676
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: Down the field.

677
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: It's so it's it's up and down, not to the

678
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: extremes with him, but there are games in which he's

679
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 5: great on the first scripted drive, and then you get

680
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: to the second quarter, in the third quarter and he disappears,

681
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 5: and then he wakes up in the fourth quarter and

682
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 5: leads another great one or two drives to get them,

683
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: you know, close to winning or winning the game. So

684
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 5: it's not super consistent. But I also understand everything that's

685
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: going around him right now. And if I have to

686
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: compare that to the Rams, I don't know the condition

687
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 5: Stafford's in.

688
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 6: He's been out for a while. I'm gonna go Seehawks.

689
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: I've already rethought it. I'm going to pick the Rams

690
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Speaker 4: on on NFL game debut. Everyone should check that out

691
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Speaker 4: Friday afternoon, Good Plug Network and.

692
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Speaker 2: Shuk mentioned that he saw it on the video there

693
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Speaker 2: or a highlight that this is uh, this show every

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Speaker 2: Thursday is on the Fast Channel. In addition to where else, Eric,

695
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Speaker 2: give me all the data points necessary to get this

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Speaker 2: plug right of.

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Speaker 3: Our own brand.

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Speaker 8: Well Fast is an overall encompassing cond Yes, so you know,

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Speaker 8: like your apps, your NFL any Fast Channel, Yes, and.

700
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Speaker 3: Then we're the NFL channel. Whether you got Roku, I

701
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: got Roku. You can't get this on like the.

702
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Speaker 2: Bay Watch channel, which my TV defaults. But it's a

703
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Speaker 2: lot of good stuff in that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously YouTube, of course.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say, like not to I just asked

706
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Speaker 2: for the plug and now I'm gonna ruin it. I

707
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Speaker 2: turned down my TV today always defaults to the bay

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Speaker 2: Watch channel.

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Speaker 3: I don't change it.

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Speaker 2: And on today's episode, and most of these were shot

711
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Speaker 2: in the early nineties, David Spade, the SNL actor comedian,

712
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Speaker 2: plays at the Heavy. He plays a bully on the beach,

713
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Speaker 2: and you just want to think Spade, what Spade would

714
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Speaker 2: be playing the heavy? But he did and it was

715
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Speaker 2: kind of a bully. But yeah, I hear you, what

716
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Speaker 2: is like the showtime minute thing from Yeah, just that

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Speaker 2: he would have ended update fun of people, you know.

718
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Speaker 2: But he was playing like the heavy, like the enforcer,

719
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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh that maybe we could have

720
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Speaker 2: went in a different direction with the casting on that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, anyway, so where do people see this? YouTube?

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Speaker 8: Fast channels, NFL Network, all that fun? Okay, good, good,

723
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Speaker 8: good good NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

725
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Speaker 2: Last last couple of thoughts. Aaron Donald on a heater.

726
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: He has three sacks in the last two weeks. Who

727
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: leads the rams as you would expect in hurries and

728
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: sacks with five and a half and the twelves will

729
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Speaker 2: represent this game. We would get forty thousand Seattle fans

730
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Speaker 2: in that building, so I think that could swing it.

731
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Speaker 3: I got the Seahawks by a field goal. What's the

732
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Speaker 3: spread on it? If one? All right, let's take a

733
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Speaker 3: break and then we will continue the draft. All right,

734
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Speaker 3: we are back. We are back.

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Speaker 2: You would think with the bay Watch episodes that they

736
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Speaker 2: would lean really hard on shark attacks, but they really

737
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Speaker 2: do restrain themselves.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the sharks like a kind of a smart TV.

739
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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like your Instagram algorithm, right,

740
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Speaker 4: they realize if they start the bay Watch, you'll watch

741
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Speaker 4: for twenty minutes, so you're feeding into it. You're like

742
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Speaker 4: one of those guys who's like, how come they keep

743
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Speaker 4: showing me all this, you know, messed up stuff on

744
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Speaker 4: my Instagram. Also, algorithm is like, that's because that's what

745
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Speaker 4: you like. I want to make it clear.

746
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Speaker 2: Also though, because I remember as I lived through it,

747
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Speaker 2: I grew up during when bay Watch is the biggest

748
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: show in the world and Syndication never watched the show,

749
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: and people that watch it were like, oh, look at

750
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Speaker 2: the babes on the show, and sure CJ played by

751
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: Pam Anderson, total babe.

752
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Speaker 3: But I watch it for the plot. There's this, it's

753
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Speaker 3: wild the writing on that show.

754
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Speaker 2: Please check out Baywatch on the Fast channels, but mostly

755
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: check out our show. Start with our show and then

756
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Speaker 2: check in on Baywatch. All right, now, let's get back

757
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Speaker 2: to the draft, Chucky.

758
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Speaker 5: We are going Buccaneers forty nine ers game that you

759
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: look at and think, I don't know, why would you

760
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: pick that so early?

761
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: And there's only three games you got to pick one

762
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: of them.

763
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we are beholden to that late schedule.

764
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: I would love to see Baker Mayfield put together a

765
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: game that finally convinces the doubters, including those in Tampa,

766
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 5: that he is good enough to be their quarterback. Now,

767
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: he's dealt with a lot of struggles on the offensive side,

768
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: many of them not his fault. They can't run the football.

769
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Speaker 5: I feel like I just keep talking about teams and

770
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: can't run the football today, but the Buccaneers certainly cannot

771
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: run the foo football. He also had to deal with

772
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: Mike Evans drops last week. It's been kind of up

773
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: and down, but he's a gamer. He's scrappy. That's what

774
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: made people love him in Cleveland, and they would have

775
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: loved him in Carolina, but he wasn't on the field

776
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Speaker 5: for all that long before he was replaced.

777
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Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna love him in Tampa and this is

778
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 6: gonna be the game.

779
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 5: I know, Greg, and I'm just gonna push all that

781
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 5: away because I'm not even a Baker fan, but I

782
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: think he deserves a little bit more credit than what

783
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: he's gotten for his performance this year. And what better

784
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 5: way to do it than against the forty nine ers, who,

785
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: by the way, I don't think the Buccaneers are gonna

786
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: win this game, but it would be fun to see

787
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: that happen, and it would also be a little bit

788
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: concerning for the forty nine ers, who just dominated the

789
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Speaker 5: Jaguars last weekend.

790
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: Well, how many years has Baker been in the NFL? Now?

791
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: Is eighteen? Was his version?

792
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: So this is his best year since eighteen and there's

793
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: not even a debate about it. He is playing consistent

794
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: and I would dare say winning football like not making

795
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: bad decisions, getting rid of the ball in time, occasionally

796
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: a big time play like if you put this version

797
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: of Baker Mayfield, and then you also sent Dave Canalis,

798
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: who I think has done a nice job as the

799
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Speaker 4: offense coordinator. Hell send the Bucks offensive line to We're

800
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: totally changing the scenario, but you sent them to the Jets.

801
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: They're seven and three, like he is, playing Dalton Scale

802
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: median starter football that you can actually, I think he's

803
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: been pretty reliable.

804
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: Dan.

805
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: You kind of know what you're getting each week. He

806
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: hasn't had any really bad games.

807
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: I've had a.

808
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Speaker 2: Total turnaround in my viewpoint of Baker this season. I

809
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: was never a big fan of his. Even last year

810
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was over sold a little bit the

811
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: excitement around the Rams cameo, which had a couple of moments.

812
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: But also a lot of bad Baker.

813
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: But this Baker has really I don't know, I've just

814
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: been impressed. He's kind of doing it. I think it

815
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Speaker 2: helps him that it's just a little lower profiles down

816
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: the NFC South, and he's just he has some dogs

817
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: to throw to. And he's not perfect, ause he never

818
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: has been and never will be. But playing in that

819
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Speaker 2: division with the talent that he has around, which isn't

820
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: an overwhelming amount of talent, but enough. Yeah, I think

821
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Speaker 2: there's a compelling kind of fun nature to their offense

822
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: that takes on his his personality, and now they have.

823
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: To play the forty nine ers.

824
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: Feeling pretty dangerous.

825
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: Now they have to play the forty nine ers and

826
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: Javon Hargrave in this defensive line, who's kind of getting

827
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: the second time round nick like of their fully formed

828
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 4: group with Chase Young.

829
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were pretty scary last week and I expect

830
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: them to only get better going forward. It's gonna be

831
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 5: real test the Buccaneers offensive line because whether they can

832
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 5: run the ball or not, they're gonna have to protect

833
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield. So you have to do enough offensively to

834
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 5: stay in this game. Their defense has been pretty good

835
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: for the most part, safe for that Houston game this year,

836
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: so I think that they'll be competitive on that side

837
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Speaker 5: of the ball.

838
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Speaker 6: But man, it's really going to come down to whether

839
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 6: they can protect Baker.

840
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: He's got the ability in him to extend the play

841
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: and avoid these situations, but he can also he's prone

842
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 5: to make that turnover and try to be a hero.

843
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 6: He's best when he operates in control.

844
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: That's when he's really gotten this offense going I think

845
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: the Niners are going to do a really good job

846
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 5: of getting him out of control, and he could get ugly.

847
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: They are twelve point favorites to forty nine ers in

848
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: this game, which is crazy. I did want to mention

849
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: the last few weeks, Calijah Kansi their first round pick

850
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: five tackles for loss in the last two or three weeks.

851
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 4: Videveya is playing like peak Vidaveya, and so suddenly you

852
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: got those two guys. You got Shaq Barrett, you got

853
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: ya Yaddabi.

854
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, what a name.

855
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: Making some plays over the last couple of you can

856
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: kind of see it. Bowles was extremely aggressive last week

857
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: against the Titans, but that was a rookie quarterback.

858
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: Will he stay that way? They're starting to build something.

859
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they're the best team in the division,

860
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: even though they're about to be four and six.

861
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: And on the Niner side again with watching Brock Party

863
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: and that was an important game for him, coming off

864
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: the buy in a three game losing streak.

865
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Speaker 3: And then his first.

866
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Red zone throw, he's flushed out of the pocket, he's

867
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: heading towards the sideline, he sets his feet, he throws

868
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: late and across the middle into coverage and somehow it

869
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: rests in the hands of Brandon Ayuk in the back

870
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: of the end zone. And then they made a good

871
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: point on the Fox telecast, which was, you know, heads

872
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: up on this. He threw thirty three interceptions at Iowa State, like,

873
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: so he is always going to be kind of putting

874
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: the ball for grabs the times. But then he also

875
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: I thought he played a really really strong game overall,

876
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: including that the touchdown pass to George Kittle was just

877
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: a thing of beauty. So I'll be interest to see

878
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: if he starts to get on a heater again. But

879
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess we should be understanding that interceptions

880
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: are gonna be part of his game and not to

881
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: be too shaded by them because he's not afraid to

882
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: take chance.

883
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: Let's go bulls of sons. He's gonna have opportunities.

884
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Defenses will always have opportunities against Brock Perty do we

885
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: have By the way, because it was funny watching because

886
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: this was the last game I watched, I watch it

887
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: this morning. Actually they took Purty out of the game.

888
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: It's a blowout to killing the Jaguars, and they put

889
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: in the backup quarterback, but they still have the highest

890
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: paid running back in the history of football out there

891
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: trying to set the consecutive touchdowns streak record. He was,

892
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: he was tied and he couldn't do it. And it

893
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: was painful because in the last possession he gets brought down.

894
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: I think it was an incompletion right near the goal line.

895
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: I like the quote by CMC after the streak was snapped.

896
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suck. Everyone else on the team scored except

897
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: for me.

898
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: When the fullback score is on a twenty yard touchdown

899
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: pass and you don't get the end zone, it might

900
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: be time to step away, but I don't know. I

901
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: thought it was also funny that and you know, keeping

902
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: it real, like Kyle Shannon was like, no, I got

903
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: to get this dog a score, even if it risked everything.

904
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: And it just it's funny how they won't let these

905
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: guys play in the preseason. Right, if there's a record,

906
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: an individual record on the line, you're running them out

907
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: there thirty seven.

908
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: To three, right, And he like immediately when he shook

909
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: hands with Doug Peterson, was trying to like explain, Hey,

910
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: I hope you understand what we were doing.

911
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: We were trying. He's like, yeah, I understood it, bro,

912
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: And then just like want to know you. All right,

913
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: let's move on. Four.

914
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: By the way, it was fun.

915
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean he did four straight plays. The whole thing

916
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: was just so. I don't hate it. That was a

917
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: bad job by me.

918
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: I sometimes you leave on Sunday nights and you think,

919
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: like I left that one on the table forgot to.

920
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: Mention, well, look, this is why we're a team. Came back, bro,

921
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: took care of it right up top. Bro, there we go.

922
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: What is this? This is gross? What are you doing?

923
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: It gave him a lot of extra touches of his fingers.

924
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. See that's why I got

925
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: to check out this show. And if we can get

926
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: a tight shot a replay maybe at the end of

927
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: the show, that'd be amazing.

928
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm up.

929
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: I got a double dip here, and let's start with

930
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: I like this done. Took Chargers packers, that's right. Surprised

931
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: still there Chargers getting three points here. I agree with

932
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: what you said. We were doing our little what you

933
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: people don't realize, Greg. I was really encouraged by Jordan

934
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Love's performance last week. I know that they didn't win,

935
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: but you really saw him seeing the field well, I

936
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: thought making some you know, going through progressions, buying time.

937
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: He's obviously got a great arm, and I'm not saying

938
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: he's perfect and he's not. And of course you can't

939
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: not look at the two targets at Watson late that

940
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: cost him the game. But from a broader scope, I

941
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: think there is room for growth there. So here they

942
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: are get a chance against the Chargers and a much

943
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: maligned shook Chargers defense that Brandon Staley now is starting

944
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: to feel the heat and answering questions about what changes

945
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: are you going to make? He is the defensive minded coach,

946
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: so I think there is a path here for the

947
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Packers to gain some momentum on the offensive side of

948
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: the ball.

949
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

950
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 6: I agree.

951
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 5: You know this is not a shot across the bow

952
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 5: towards you and your Jets, Stan, But I had to

953
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: write a post last week about Brandon Staley believing that

954
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 5: the Chargers were turning a corner defensively because their pass

955
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: rushers there and everyone's healthy and everything's great. Now I'm

956
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 5: sitting back thinking, man, you played the Jets offense. This

957
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: is not going to last. You guys are a sieve,

958
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 5: and they were a sieve of course this week. So

959
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: I do think it's a good opportunity for the Packers,

960
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 5: and the thing about Love that really just I'm internally

961
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 5: conflicted on this. I have been for most of the

962
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 5: year because this is how he played, and one to

963
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: week two to week three, he shows these performances where

964
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: he's hitting guys down the field, dropping passes into the bucket,

965
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: looking great, showing off the arm strength. He's throwing a

966
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 5: pass while he's falling away downfield, put it exactly where

967
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 5: Jade Green needs to catch it. I mean, it was

968
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 5: all good stuff, but then there's the turnovers, and it's

969
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 5: the end of game stuff that has killed them this year.

970
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 5: And I'm just not ready to get on board yet.

971
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: I need a complete game from him front to back

972
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 5: against a team that has not named the Chicago Bears

973
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 5: for me to.

974
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: Fully believe in him. And this could be the moment.

975
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: I know that the Chargers don't wear blue and orange,

976
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 5: they wear powder blue and sometimes navy blue and gold,

977
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: and they have a bad defense, but that could be

978
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: enough of an optic switch for me to maybe just

979
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: start to believe in Jordan Love. If they just tighten

980
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: up some things, figure some things that clean it up

981
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 5: a little bit. The short completions that end up incomplete

982
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 5: because they bounce off of receiver's hands. Whatever it is,

983
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: I'll feel a lot better, even though their season is

984
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 5: not really going anywhere. I'll feel better about his trajectory

985
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: and this seems like the right situation for it.

986
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, this says potential to be an ugly loss for

987
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: the Chargers. I feel like I basically the rest of

988
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: this season. Anytime the Chargers are a game under five hundred,

989
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 4: I mean, they can't afford to get there again too often.

990
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 4: Like it's starting to feel like go time for Staley,

991
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: Like he kind of can't lose these games anymore.

992
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: Especially his defense coming up short. I just don't know

993
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: who they are.

994
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 4: I kind of bought that their defense was playing better

995
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 4: because Bosa look better and they have it they should

996
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: have a good pass rush, but they got stone last

997
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: week against the Lions offensive line. The Packers offensive line

998
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: is actually been playing a little better lately. Their defense

999
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: gives up a ton on the ground, like every handful

1000
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: of games they gave up over two hundred the Packers defense.

1001
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: But I just don't trust Eckeler and their running game

1002
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 4: to take advantage. Eckler, though last week I thought had

1003
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: as much juice as I saw all season on the

1004
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: other side, Aaron Jones might be becoming like a little

1005
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: bit of a of a problem there for him.

1006
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: I just don't think he's he's the same guy.

1007
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: There was a play he was caught from behind by

1008
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: a Landon Roberts last week and I was like, whoa,

1009
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: I've watched enough of a Landon Roberts in New England

1010
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 4: knowing like he should not be catching Aaron Jones from behind.

1011
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: This is a bit of a I talked about it.

1012
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: What you people don't realize how many coaches are have

1013
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: hot butts entering the second half, and I do think, yeah,

1014
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley definitely, if the Packers don't find a way

1015
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: in this game, they would be three and seven at

1016
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: that point. They're really taking on water in terms of

1017
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: the season and just something to keep an eye on.

1018
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: So interest.

1019
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 5: How early is it to dirt nap somebody?

1020
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: What do you mean? What does that like? Stick a

1021
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: fork in them? Yeah? Yeah, you could do it right now.

1022
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: We already had an episode who which one of the well,

1023
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: the Packers would not be a bold one.

1024
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: Are you sticking a fork in them?

1025
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 6: It doesn't know I'm sticking a fourth in the Chargers.

1026
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: You just said it.

1027
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 6: You don't know who they are. They don't know who

1028
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 6: they are.

1029
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: They need Keenan Allen to be a superhero to go

1030
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: win a shootout or actually they lost the shootout, but

1031
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 5: at least be competitive.

1032
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: Or Herbert, give me more of that, Herbert, though there

1033
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: was a point in that game where I think you

1034
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: realized what type of game he was in and he

1035
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: was just kind of fu Herbert.

1036
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: More of that, more of that, a little less safe.

1037
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: But I'm with you.

1038
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: I picked them to make the super Bowl in this

1039
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: AFC where they're like eleventh right now and there's so

1040
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: many two such a bad prediction. I feel very confident

1041
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: they are not making the playoffs, even though they're they're

1042
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 4: actually about a thirty five percent chance according to the

1043
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: you know, the projection models.

1044
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: To me, that what making the playoffs, which is like

1045
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: the same as super Bowl.

1046
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: No, hell no, no making the playoffs, which just like

1047
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: the same as the Bengals and some some of the

1048
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: teams in front of them, like the Texans, and I

1049
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: just I don't see it.

1050
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1051
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: They'll probably get to nine wins because that's the most

1052
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 4: annoying way for them to do it, but they're not

1053
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 4: gonna It's not gonna happen.

1054
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 9: You know, smart football Twitter. Every year you guys get

1055
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 9: sucked in by the Chargers. I summer every STU take

1056
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 9: it a couple of years off. And then I thought, Okay,

1057
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 9: nobody's on them this year.

1058
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: About it back and everybody likes pours over the DVOA

1059
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: and this and that.

1060
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, Ravens sitting right there

1061
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: because we usually love the Ravens too, and they were

1062
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: sitting right there all.

1063
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: Right, mm.

1064
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Snakes to me, and I just had to grab another

1065
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: game here. I'm gonna be in New York this weekend.

1066
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm taking the boys to see my family, so might

1067
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: as well just grab the other Tristate area team, the

1068
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: New York Giants at Washington.

1069
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like, I like this is nothing.

1070
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't care anything about the Giants, So I do

1071
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: like I like the specter of Tommy DeVito. And we're

1072
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: going to talk about Tommy DeVito on the NFL plus

1073
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: Dreamatorium episode coming up later today. But on the Washington side,

1074
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: I do want to see more from Sam hall Is.

1075
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Colleen Wolf rightly pointed out on Wednesday's episode, Uh he

1076
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: leads the league in passing right now, he is playing

1077
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: a little bit smarter, taking less sacks in recent weeks

1078
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: and on again. On paper, this could be a game

1079
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: Greggy where Howl lights up the Giants and at home

1080
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he becomes something like more

1081
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: people are talking about, people are realizing the kind of

1082
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: season that Howl is quietly having.

1083
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: Here it seems like a nice setup for him to

1084
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: really roll. Yeah, they're this defense for the Giants.

1085
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: So they had that one or two weeks where they

1086
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: were capable, but Adorri Jackson is coming off a concussion,

1087
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: so's Kaevon Thibodeau, so's Jalen Hyatt, So they're banged up

1088
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: on top of everything else. This line actually started with

1089
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: them as like a ten and a half point favorites,

1090
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: which is crazy that the Commanders would be a ten

1091
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: and a half while over anyone.

1092
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 3: It's actually dipped. I noticed now Mark ripping the quarterbright

1093
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: it's at eight and a half. But that just shows

1094
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: you a lot where the Giants are at. And I

1095
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: get it.

1096
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 4: If if you gave Howl a better defense, they would

1097
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: have been good, Like the recipe was actually there for them.

1098
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: Nick that if they weren't like the twenty fifth best

1099
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: defense in the league. The offense is giving them enough,

1100
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: but the defense just isn't. Jonathan Allen Deron Payn, who

1101
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: getting paid a lot, have had very little production over

1102
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 4: the last five or six weeks. So they trade away

1103
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: the edge guys and the guys on the interior who

1104
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: get a ton of money aren't really playing that well.

1105
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I see this week they're working out

1106
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: another edge rusher, like they're already looking for plan B

1107
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 5: after trading away both those edge rushers.

1108
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 6: It's it's very obvious with them.

1109
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 5: It's a bummer because Sam Hall has exceeded every expectation

1110
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 5: I ever had for him by miles, and he's getting

1111
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 5: better and better in the last few weeks, even though

1112
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 5: they only have one win to show for it. He's

1113
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: been accurate, he's made great throws, he's operated out of

1114
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: structure really well. Everything that Ron Rivera, you know, was saying,

1115
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: was was great about this kid, about somebody that he

1116
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 5: believes could be the future of the franchise. It's just

1117
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 5: that if they don't start winning games, and Ron Vera's

1118
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: not gonna be around to see it through.

1119
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: So'll get to five and six if they win this.

1120
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: So that's sort of in that's barely in the mid

1121
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: but it's in the mill.

1122
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: Win this one.

1123
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: And we talked about a couple of weeks ago, like,

1124
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: if you believe you have something in this young quarterback,

1125
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: you really want to think twice about blowing up the

1126
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: entire coaching staff and the offensive scheme and and maybe

1127
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: he should give this kid a chance to mature in

1128
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: the system. And I guess it's up to them to

1129
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: finish strong and make that make a difficult decision for

1130
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: new ownership. Terry McLaurin is an interesting guy in this

1131
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: offense because he is the best player on the offense

1132
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: and yet he doesn't seem to get the ball enough.

1133
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: He actually had ninety yards against the Giants in Week seven.

1134
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: That's his season high. He doesn't have one hundred yard game.

1135
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: But this also, I think kind of speaks to Howell

1136
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: that he's not a young quarterback just laser locking in

1137
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: one guy. He actually the Commanders have six players that

1138
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: are over two hundred and fifty yards receiving this year.

1139
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: That's most in the NFL. There's no other team that

1140
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: even has more than five. So he is seeing the

1141
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: field spreading the ball around. And would you like to

1142
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: see Scary Terry win a game single handily because he can? Yes,

1143
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: maybe that happens today. How about that for a prediction?

1144
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: Ten for one forty and a touch for Scary?

1145
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: Well, all right, I'm putting him into my fantasy lineup. Then,

1146
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: oh no, don't do that. Well it has been he's been.

1147
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: Okay, he's costra Hans this got up play him shout

1148
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: out to uh. By the way, I think he is

1149
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: playing awesome, as as consistent as I think he's ever

1150
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 4: been in the NFL, not taking the tackles for loss,

1151
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: like taking what's there, getting extra, running really hard in

1152
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: a completely unfair, brutal situation. So I appreciate that the

1153
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: numbers aren't going to be crazy this year, but I

1154
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: think he's as good as he's ever I agree.

1155
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: And if you go back to one of the most

1156
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: grizzly games in NFL history, Jets Giants, I think one

1157
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: of the great feats that you will ever see is

1158
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: Saquon going for one twenty or one third whatever it was,

1159
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: when Tavito is in the lineup and they wouldn't let

1160
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: him throw, and that that's a good Jets front seven,

1161
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: and he still was finding holes and should have been

1162
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: able to put the game away. But that's a whole

1163
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: other conversation. Brian Dable made a different decision. All right, Shook,

1164
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: you are up, buddy.

1165
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 6: We are going to go down the list to the

1166
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 6: old AFC South.

1167
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 5: We're going Titans Jaguars because who needs a bounce back

1168
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 5: performance more than the team that only put three points

1169
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: on the board at home last week against the Jacksonville Jague.

1170
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: What a joke that the Jags show up, yulk, Yeah,

1171
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: it was bad.

1172
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is healthy enough to not be on the

1173
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 5: injury report, but not healthy enough to be as mobile

1174
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 5: as he needs to be behind an offensive line that's

1175
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: just not protecting well enough. The running game has disappeared

1176
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: for the most part. Deanis Johnson was the one carrying

1177
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 5: the load for them on the ground, So that's everything

1178
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 5: that you need to know about that. And defensively, a

1179
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: team that was very opportunistic about a month ago and

1180
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 5: suddenly isn't producing quite as many turnovers as you expect.

1181
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: I feel like I didn't see the Jaguars for like

1182
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: a month, even though I watch him every week going

1183
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 5: into this game, and When I watched this game, I

1184
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 5: thought this team six and two, like they're having a

1185
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 5: hard time. Everything's hard for them, so they need to bounce.

1186
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: They disappeared to England and won twice to their credit,

1187
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, and then they came back and there was

1188
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: a buye greg It's I think West used to call

1189
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: it the Bermuda Triangle. I think the Jags were one

1190
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: of these teams that that kind of just didn't get

1191
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: the national spotlight.

1192
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: And we said it on Sunday, is this going to

1193
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: be now? When it starts?

1194
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: Like the heat around Trevor Lawrence, Like, look at all

1195
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: his stats are really really middling, middle of the road

1196
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: as a producer, and what was supposed to be a

1197
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: big year. We have not heard the avalanche of criticism

1198
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: on Lawrence, I don't think, And I think it factors

1199
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: in that he plays with the Jacksonville jab right, so

1200
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: maybe that works out for once.

1201
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: Well, this is one of those games Titans at Jaguars,

1202
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: because yeah, it's kind of the Titans last and if

1203
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 4: they want to be at all involved in this division.

1204
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: Levis at a big comeback to Earth game last week,

1205
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: and this is a tough matchup against defense that until

1206
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 4: last week had been playing so well, but Lawrence plays

1207
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: like an old Doug Peterson quarterback. I was trying to

1208
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: think who they were, who this offense reminded me of,

1209
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 4: And it reminded me of the Kansas City Chiefs with

1210
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: Alex Smith for those first two to three years, which

1211
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: was efficient, which was a little better than average. Actually,

1212
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 4: like they weren't bad at the last season. Smith actually

1213
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: started bombing and playing out of his mind, but he

1214
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 4: was there for four years. People kind of forget how

1215
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: long of a run that was for Alex Smith there,

1216
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: and that was Doug Peterson running those plays. And that's

1217
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 4: what it reminds me of, because that's all horizontal, it's

1218
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: all getting rid of the ball.

1219
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 3: They don't trust their offensive line.

1220
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: Ben Solak of The Ringer had a good stat that

1221
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: they run the fewest amount of routes past twenty yards

1222
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: and that their average depth of targets are shorter than

1223
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: the rest of the league by far. Like there's not

1224
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: even a second closest team that's in the ballpark. And

1225
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: that's like with Trevor Lawrence, Like why is he playing

1226
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 4: like Alex Smith?

1227
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: It's not good. Zay Jones.

1228
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: We should have mentioned previously was arrested. Actually, I think

1229
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: we just missed it with the time it happened on

1230
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: a misdemeanor domestic battery charge, something involving his mother. A disturbing,

1231
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: sad story. But he is on the practice field this week,

1232
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: and I think they're gonna play him. He's missed six games,

1233
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 4: was a key part of their offense a year ago

1234
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 4: in a row. So that's a messy situation, but it

1235
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: doesn't look like the league's gonna step I thought, you.

1236
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: Know, watching that Niners game, and it happens the game

1237
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: got away from there against a Studeley Niners team that

1238
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: was pissed off coming off a three game losing streak

1239
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: and a bye. But even when the game, they're down

1240
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 2: four scores and then they should be like at least

1241
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: getting you know, some type of like momentum. Its third

1242
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: and seventeen, it's like right fourth and twenty one and

1243
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: you're throwing a three yard checkdown pass it there was

1244
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: nothing there. And the data around Lawrence is he's been

1245
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league against the

1246
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: Blitz this year, and I think one player shook that

1247
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: kind of his emblematic of their bad season. They're having

1248
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: they're tight end Evan Ingram, who I've always liked. He

1249
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: leads the team in receptions. He doesn't even have a

1250
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: touchdown this year. There's just no juice to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1251
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: and that was not supposed to be the case here.

1252
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: This is a conflict I deal with every week with

1253
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 5: QB index because the tape for most of his season

1254
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: has been better than the numbers suggested, but almost every game,

1255
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: and there was a very specific stretch about three or

1256
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: four weeks a month or so ago where it was

1257
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: just near misses. Everything was just not quite where it

1258
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 5: needed to be, whether it was a receiver dropping a

1259
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 5: well placed pass, or Lawrence just missing a guy not

1260
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: giving him a space to catch the ball, or not

1261
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: getting the ball out in time, or throwing interceptions. Whatever

1262
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: it was just didn't quite fit. I thought they were

1263
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 5: starting to ascend and figure it out, and then they

1264
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 5: put a performance on like this. So I want to

1265
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 5: think that this is the fluke, this is the anomaly,

1266
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: it's the aberration, and that we're gonna They're gonna get

1267
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 5: back on track. They're gonna beat the Titans, but they're

1268
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 5: also going to face a front that could capitalize on

1269
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 5: a weak offensive line. So it's not gonna be easy.

1270
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 5: It's going to be a challenge for them. Greg, you

1271
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: know you talked about everything being horizontal with that offense.

1272
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: I was so frustrated watching them. Why are you trying

1273
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: another screen for the ninth time when you know they're

1274
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 5: gonna be there to blow it up. They had no

1275
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 5: reason to respect the deep shot. You have Christian Kirk

1276
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: on this team, You have Calvin Ridley on this team.

1277
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 5: These guys are fast.

1278
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 6: Take a shot. Why not. You have nothing to lose,

1279
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: so do that a little bit more. You'll probably get

1280
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 6: back to your winning way.

1281
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: This is for the Titans fans. Showke, you do the

1282
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: QB index, and you do it well every week on

1283
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: NFL dot Com. Yeah, Levis did come back to earth,

1284
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: and he didn't have a big statistical game against the

1285
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: Steelers the week before, but was a monster his debut obviously.

1286
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: Is the juice out of that orange as well? Or

1287
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: is there something looking forward to this one game? That's

1288
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: just he's played three to so I'm asking the.

1289
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1290
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 5: I think the Steelers game was up and down, but

1291
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 5: there was lots of like in that game. The Tampa game,

1292
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 5: they just blitzed the crap out of him. I mean

1293
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 5: they blitzed it over fifty percent. They knew that, look,

1294
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: we're gonna stop the run and we're just gonna send

1295
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: the house at Will Levis and force him to make

1296
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 5: a decision. And to his credit, he stood tall in

1297
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: the pocket and tried to get the ball out, you know,

1298
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 5: on target a number of times. But that offense was

1299
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: just cut at the knees and they just didn't have

1300
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 5: much of an opportunity to keep up in a game

1301
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 5: that wasn't really a high scoring affair. So I kind

1302
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: of foresee a similar product this week, probably another touchdown

1303
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 5: than they scored last week, just because it's a division

1304
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 5: game that tends to happen. But the juice is not

1305
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 5: out of the out of the fruit here, because what

1306
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 5: else you gonna do? You gonna go back Ryan Tannehill.

1307
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: You might as well keep letting the kid play and

1308
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 5: at least give you a game.

1309
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: And I thought, like Angel was in there, would they

1310
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 4: be in that particular game. They probably He probably would

1311
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: have handled that better because he's seen defenses like that.

1312
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 6: They might have scored ten.

1313
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't want to go back Lewis show has

1314
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: showed too much.

1315
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: We got speaking of juice, we got juice in the

1316
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: legs of Derrick Henry in November twenty m They got

1317
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: the juice on those legs.

1318
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't know about that either.

1319
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 4: Weird team Jaguar's favored by seven in this game. That's

1320
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: too much for a division matchup. All right, let's take

1321
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: a break and we'll finish out the draft. All right,

1322
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 4: we are back Greg once again, back to back picks.

1323
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: Let's welcome the Miami Dolphins back into our lives. I

1324
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 4: missed them, you know. They went to Germany, didn't go

1325
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: so well, took a week off, thirteen and a half

1326
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: point favorites over the Raiders.

1327
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: Wow, Miami, it's a lot. But they did have a

1328
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: great injury report.

1329
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: I would say this week with incredible injury devon Ah

1330
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: Chain returning, they still have more injuries than you would

1331
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 4: like coming off of bye week. Like the Chiefs literally

1332
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: don't have a player on their injury report. It's like, wow,

1333
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: it's eleven. That's happening.

1334
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: That's remarkable.

1335
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 4: Now the Dolphins still have like five or six guys

1336
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: who aren't practicing, but they're all role players. A Chain

1337
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 4: looks like he's back and Armstead has been limited in practice,

1338
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: and that would be the biggest return for them. They're

1339
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: going up against a defense which I think Patrick Graham

1340
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: has gotten the most out of Max Crosby having an

1341
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: insane year. But when Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are

1342
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: saying hey, Antonio appears told me he went to Robert

1343
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: splane and he said, Robert, like, this defense is on you.

1344
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: That's our guy. If we want to build around one guy,

1345
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 4: it's Splaine. And I'm thinking, like, I get it. There's

1346
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 4: not funny guests over here, not many options, but they're overachieving.

1347
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: And when you play a team like the Dolphins.

1348
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: Even if the Dolphins were they were twenty second in

1349
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: EPA on offense from Week seven to nine their last

1350
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: three games, which are tough matchups, I expect we get

1351
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: a return to the fun fire show against the bad

1352
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: team Dolphins, and I like that as my backup early game.

1353
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: That'll be fun.

1354
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 6: Does that Does that justify that?

1355
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 5: That line there, like, that's that's a big spread, like thirteen,

1356
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 5: that's disrespectful In the NFL, this.

1357
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 6: Is the Raiders team. Oh god, that is playing for

1358
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: its coach. I'm just kidding.

1359
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: That.

1360
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: No, I'm going it's a little disrespectful, but I get

1361
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: it because of the way Miami played bad teams at home.

1362
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: It's on brand, Like you know, they they've proven they

1363
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: can bully teams that are at this level and below,

1364
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: and at home coming.

1365
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: Off a week or rest. I think the I think

1366
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: the Sharks have this one nailed.

1367
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: I think this one's got the Raiders come down to

1368
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Earth and maybe twenty one to three end of quarter

1369
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: one written all over it.

1370
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 6: I can't disagree. I mean, I think the Raiders.

1371
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 5: You guys see this from time to time when a

1372
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 5: coach gets fired, right, there's a little bit of juice,

1373
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 5: a little spark. Sure players played for their interim coach

1374
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 5: because they exactly You're right, I should have used.

1375
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you watch on our YouTube show, you could

1376
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: see Actually you can't see us because they're showing in.

1377
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: Tony appears right in the background. Our longtime friend and

1378
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: NFL photographer Ben Lee, who's never listened to the show,

1379
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: and I never see him anymore. He's in a different

1380
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: part of the complex. But Ben, we're talking about you.

1381
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: How about Michael Meyer playing better last few weeks. Josh

1382
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: Jacob's playing better certainly the defense under Pierce. So if

1383
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 4: I had to choose, and I guess I do, I

1384
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 4: have to pick a score for this game. I'm going

1385
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: to have the Raiders keeping it closer like eleven points.

1386
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, under this I want everyone to just including you, Greg,

1387
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: because you need to pick the score. This, all this

1388
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: optimism around the Raiders is still not a good roster

1389
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: with a mid round pick, rookie quarterback coach with no experience,

1390
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: two wins against the New York teams in various states.

1391
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 3: Of at home, which is actually a little at home. Yeah,

1392
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: this this is screaming at us, Hey, fifty burger, fifty

1393
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: burger coming. Okay, let's be let's get there too.

1394
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: The Dolphins, while they've been chilling, have watched the Bills

1395
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 4: lose a couple games here and they would be two

1396
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: games up in the lost column on in the division.

1397
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 4: If they can win this game, it is right there

1398
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: in front of them for them to have a home

1399
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: game in the playoffs. It has been a long time

1400
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: for the Dolphins have a home game in the play

1401
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 4: If the Raiders, when I don't know when it was,

1402
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 4: If the.

1403
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: Raiders stifle Miami here, I will personally apologize to Antonio

1404
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: Pierce and make sure that clip gets the Raiders headquarters.

1405
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: All right, Greg snakes to you, Okay, I am going

1406
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: to take what? Am I going to take? Bears and Lions. Actually,

1407
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: that's a pretty good game.

1408
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 4: With Justin Field's returning seven and a half points for

1409
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: the Lions at home, that feels about right. This is

1410
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: a team that you can't really trust their offense, I

1411
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: mean defense on a week to week basis, like are

1412
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: they going to get enough pressure? Justin Fields had been

1413
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: playing better. It's easy to forget, but he had those

1414
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: two big games in a row right before he got hurt, right,

1415
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: and they've looked better as a team in general. They're

1416
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 4: good at stopping the run. They've been more competitive when

1417
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: other teams get back to pass. In terms of their

1418
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: pass rush, not great, but they add Montes wet and competitive.

1419
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 4: Even with Tyson Bagen at quarterback, they win a couple

1420
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: of games.

1421
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 3: So this is a division matchup.

1422
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: These two sides, they know each other pretty well from

1423
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: the eber Fluse matchups a year ago. And I want

1424
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: to see Fields. I want to see him play well

1425
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: down the stretch. The Bears want to see it too,

1426
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 4: because look they're in a perfect spot. They got that

1427
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: Panthers pick that's going to be the quarterback, and they

1428
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: can go try to win games with Fields and then

1429
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: Fields will raise his trade value and they maybe get

1430
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 4: rid of him in the offseason. I think that's that's

1431
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 4: interesting because and it makes it sense. I mean, if

1432
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: they have no one or the two pick, I feel

1433
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: like that's what they would do.

1434
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Shook such a massive final two months for the Bears.

1435
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: It's franchise shifting for potentially a decade because you do

1436
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: have to make that decision, but you also you almost

1437
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: like you're kind of caught in between because you need

1438
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: Fields to play well, and then it makes the decision

1439
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: probably close to impossible at the end of the year

1440
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: because if he plays well, then the year you're gonna

1441
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: bail on him at that point because you're so sure

1442
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: of a college player. But that could be what they're

1443
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: hope that's what they're hoping for. And if he conversely,

1444
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: if he tanks and he struggles and he gets already

1445
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: gets hurt again, what is Justin Field's trade value? That

1446
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: is a big off season storyline to watch or not there.

1447
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 6: He's interconnected.

1448
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 5: Everything's interconnected because you also have to think about if

1449
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 5: justin field struggles, they're losing more games.

1450
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 6: Your coach could be fired, your GM could be fired.

1451
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 6: Who knows who's making the pick?

1452
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: Right?

1453
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 6: Is ownership really that confident?

1454
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: It would be shocked. He would have to play so

1455
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: well down the stretch. I think for them to not

1456
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: take a top two overall pick quarterback, I almost don't

1457
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 4: know what he could do. But but like I said,

1458
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: those two starts, it was against Denver and Washington, it

1459
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 4: was way back in weeks what is that four and five?

1460
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 4: And then he got hurt in week six against the Vikings.

1461
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: And this is a defense nick a little disappointing. I

1462
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 4: would say unbound certainly a defense you can throw the

1463
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: ball against. I think we've seen that they're just not

1464
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: good in the secondary. They're playing Cameron Sutton and Tracy

1465
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: Walker at safety and Jacob's like guys I.

1466
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 5: Liked though, Okay, I liked the way they played that.

1467
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 5: They just haven't lived up to this year. Yeah, it's

1468
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 5: not working. It's just not And I look at their

1469
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 5: scores and they're the volatility is pretty big, just depending

1470
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 5: on opponent, and I have a hard time figuring out

1471
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 5: why Aiden Hutchinson. He's either making a big difference or

1472
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 5: he's not like and they're just facing somebody who can

1473
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: handle him.

1474
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: It's I feel like he's always himself, but he needs help.

1475
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: And he's not like Miles Garrett. I know he was

1476
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 4: a top two pick. He's like in the level below,

1477
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 4: like a pro bowler type, but not like Micah Parsons

1478
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: or anything.

1479
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: That's that's fine, You're happy with that.

1480
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, he just doesn't have to help the other side.

1481
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 6: So the Lions.

1482
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 5: I thought about this last night, guys, and I don't

1483
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 5: want to sound like a hater, but I'm gonna like hater.

1484
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 5: If you look at their schedule and who they played

1485
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 5: this year, they haven't really been tested very much. And

1486
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 5: if you look at their remaining schedule, they're not really

1487
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: gonna get tested very much. My biggest tests have been

1488
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: Kansas City and God the Ravens, and they got dominated there.

1489
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 5: And their biggest tests remaining are going to be the

1490
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: two games in three weeks with Minnesota in Dallas.

1491
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: But that's that's only sixteen.

1492
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: So they have this stretch which is pretty interesting coming up,

1493
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 4: where they'll be heavy favorites in every game.

1494
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 6: It's like thirteen and three.

1495
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could get their goal is because there

1496
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: will be those questions around them. I'm sure by the

1497
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: time January comes down, they'll be playing in the playoffs.

1498
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: Can they get that bye? We'll see good. But those

1499
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: schedule sets up well for them.

1500
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 4: Anything else from this game, I did want to mention

1501
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 4: keep an eye on Jamison Williams.

1502
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: I know it was like two for eighteen last week.

1503
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 4: It wasn't much, but it was the best catch of

1504
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: his season on a nice kind of comeback route in

1505
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: the middle of the field. They had a touchdown to

1506
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: him that was overturned. He had that big block on

1507
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: the Montgomery run. And the biggest thing is Dan Campbell

1508
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: this week, who's been so hard on him publicly, was

1509
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 4: like very positive about He's now one of the guys.

1510
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 4: He's coming in, he's doing the work, he's consistent, you

1511
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 4: can sound he really started to sound confident in him.

1512
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: And we know that Gibbs is the most explosive guy

1513
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: in their offense.

1514
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 4: But if they can get one more explosive guy, just

1515
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: a little more consistent, I wouldn't be surprised if Jamo

1516
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 4: starts making some plays and is like a fantasy factor

1517
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: here down the.

1518
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: Stretch just a little bit. Okay, I mean that would

1519
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: be that would be big. It'd be huge for them.

1520
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's close it out, Shook, there's one game left.

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 6: Oh, we have the big Well, I know I have

1522
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 6: to take you. As soon as you picked the last game,

1523
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, gross.

1524
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 5: It is Cowboys at Panthers, and it is a test

1525
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 5: of how networks decide their broadcast cruise because the Panthers

1526
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 5: at one and eight get the one of the leading

1527
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 5: crews and the Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Aaron Anderson, Tom

1528
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 5: Renaldi group for this game.

1529
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: Hey, when people ask Shook, people get mad and people say,

1530
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: oh my god, why did the Cowboys get so much coverage?

1531
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: The proof is in the pudding right there.

1532
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: Because they know the Cowboys will do a big number,

1533
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: so they put a big team on the game.

1534
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 5: They know they'll sell, they know they will get eyes

1535
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 5: on the television, and then they can pitch it as well.

1536
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 5: Bryce Young's playing, and everybody wants to see Pryce ut.

1537
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: Anybody who's watched the Panthers this season doesn't want to

1538
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 5: see very much more of Bryce Young and Frank Reich,

1539
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 5: who's supposedly taking over play calling duties again after waffling

1540
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 5: back and forth. Nothing's gonna get any better here with

1541
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: that offense right now. There's too many issues personnel deficiencies.

1542
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 5: We've been over it ad nauseum. But the big test

1543
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 5: for me and I don't think it's gonna be much

1544
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 5: of a test at all. But a lot of this

1545
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: Cowboys run, which has included phenomenal play on the part

1546
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 5: of Dak Prescott, has been at home. They have a

1547
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 5: huge home winning streak. They have not been as good

1548
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 5: on the road. Not saying that they're gonna lose this game.

1549
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 5: I feel very confident in them because again, Dak's playing

1550
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 5: some of the best ball in a long time.

1551
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 6: But it will be an.

1552
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 5: Interesting test to go down there, Carolina, go to Charlotte.

1553
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 5: You keep pounding from the fifty to seventy five percent

1554
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 5: of the stadium that's full with fans by halftime.

1555
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if Greg, if if the Panthers absorb another

1556
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: ugly defeat here, if we might get another episode of

1557
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: Tepper be talking.

1558
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's that those are been buried sometimes they've

1559
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: they've been so controversial. We haven't even released some episodes

1560
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: of temper Be talking.

1561
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: We've had a holster some epps of temper be talking.

1562
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe we get one in the next few days.

1563
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: I suspect Tepper be talking to to Frank Reich about

1564
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 4: about what was going on, and maybe that's why the

1565
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 4: off he's taken the play calling back.

1566
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: It's it's depressing. It really haunts me.

1567
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: The still the press conference from a month or so

1568
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: ago when Frank Reich said he has constant conversations where

1569
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: Tepper be talking and they're hard conversations and they're unpleasant conversations.

1570
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: And now you have the play callers switch over, and

1571
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 2: now the switch through is back, and this is has

1572
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: all the markings of a want and done tenure for

1573
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: Frank Reich, a man who deserves better. And you know what,

1574
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: look at it the positive way, GREGI he will be

1575
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: scooped up by a team if you would like to

1576
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,919
Speaker 2: stay on the coaching sidelines as an OC, and sure

1577
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: enough you'll see him on the sidelines at a big

1578
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: playoff game playing a key role. But right now it

1579
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: feels like he's just gonna have to go down with

1580
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 2: this ship because it's just not working, especially set against

1581
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: the backdrop of Stroud's historic success in Houston.

1582
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: Well, now all you gotta do is play the Cowboys

1583
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 4: defensive line this weekend.

1584
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: Good luck with that.

1585
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: You mentioned Rico Daubtel, Like, is the timeshare coming? I

1586
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: mean I think I think it came.

1587
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's happening. Yeah, he was donning. Really

1588
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: it really is.

1589
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 4: McCarthy said. He was quoted as saying he wants guys

1590
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 4: who can run angry. Oh, no, runs angry.

1591
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that. I don't think it's

1592
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: a no no situation. It's fine, it is. It's you know,

1593
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: maybe he's not hitting that hole as hard as he needs. Follered. Yeah,

1594
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: and that's they expected him to be a star this

1595
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: year and it has not worked out for them. But

1596
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 3: you know what this is. The Texas Coast offense has

1597
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: been okay otherwise.

1598
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, and this is one of the tiniest

1599
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 5: backfields in the NFL, and they just haven't really produced.

1600
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 6: But it's kind of fun to just sit back and think,

1601
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 6: all right, who else is it? Douce Faun, is it

1602
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 6: Tony Pollard, is it Rigo Dabdell? Who's gonna do it?

1603
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: Well?

1604
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 6: The group hasn't really produced, but we'll get there.

1605
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 4: I think it's another week that because of the matchup.

1606
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 4: It's like, let's keep getting cooked some numbers. Let's keep

1607
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 4: getting gallups some numbers. The Cowboys have been so dominant

1608
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 4: against these poor sisters of the NFL that they can

1609
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 4: like just work on getting people like more confident and

1610
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 4: like work on different parts of their game.

1611
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible. Ceedee lamb, Let's see what he does.

1612
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: Keep that heater going.

1613
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys getting ten and a half in this one, all right,

1614
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: before we say goodbye. Earlier in the show, I Greg

1615
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: and I had a really tender moment in which he

1616
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: lamented something that he didn't bring up in an earlier show,

1617
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: and then I brought it up here and it.

1618
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: Just showed that how he had each other's back.

1619
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: So I decided to put up the high five, and

1620
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: then let's watch the replay because it got great.

1621
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: He's very uncomfortable. You said high five, so that's but

1622
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: why did you go for the high five? Whoa?

1623
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: We almost had to blur this out. That is that

1624
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: is a borderline. Why are you look at that big

1625
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: meat hook?

1626
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: Why are you high five in your little son there?

1627
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 3: Who is that? Who are those baby hands in there

1628
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 3: with you? That's it shook. You did it.

1629
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 2: You've said it all and you've done it all, and

1630
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: we could not appreciate you more.

1631
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 6: I appreciate you, guys. Thanks for entrusting me with a

1632
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 6: role in this draft and to be on this episode.

1633
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 6: And as always, it's a blast chat in football with you.

1634
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 3: He's bringing the backwards hat back too. Oh yeah, look

1635
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 3: at that. I didn't even it.

1636
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 5: You gotta see how this looks on me. Yeah, I

1637
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: don't wear dad the dad had the curve bill very well,

1638
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 5: not not great.

1639
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: Better. I'm really wearing it because I don't know anything.

1640
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 6: I didn't shaved my head.

1641
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: I think you look great either way. But yeah, it

1642
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: definitely gives off kind of dad at the soccer game vibe.

1643
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 6: That's us now.

1644
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: You look hip and young and ready to dominate in

1645
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 2: a way that few people can even understand or fathom.

1646
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: Shook.

1647
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy, and thank you everybody for listening to

1648
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: the week eleven preview. Yes we got NFL Plus coming

1649
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 2: up later today, Thursday Night recap coming and then yes,

1650
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: on the other side, we recap every game we just

1651
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: previewed Sunday night the Flagship Show till then heed that

1652
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: call