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Speaker 2: that their third round pick, Dylan Gabriel, will start Sunday

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Speaker 2: against the Minnesota Vikings in London. When asked about getting

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Speaker 2: Gabriel getting the starting job, it was literally it literally

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Speaker 2: left your door speech less. Oh Joe, let's take a

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Speaker 2: listen to this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me need that things.

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Speaker 5: Locally right?

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Speaker 6: Use for more, Gus, what do you think you got

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Speaker 6: to show you the show to some coaches just to haplie?

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Speaker 4: Have I believe in you that you can? You be ready?

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Speaker 1: You say.

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Speaker 7: How much?

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Speaker 6: How much has Joe been important to both of you

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Speaker 6: and Dylan in terms of your guys like development to

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Speaker 6: this point?

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Speaker 4: Man, y'all money?

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, do you like the way your door handled

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Speaker 1: this press conference?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, because whatever he says, they're gonna twist his words.

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Speaker 6: If you say nothing, you know, that's really well. On

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Speaker 6: any other team, they have thirty one other quart excuse me,

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Speaker 6: they are thirty one other teams. Do any of those

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Speaker 6: media members talk to the third string quarterback? No, it's controversy.

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Speaker 6: Why create controversy? How do you not create it? By

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Speaker 6: when they ask you questions? Just don't answer. You just

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Speaker 6: don't answer. If anything that you could be talking to

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Speaker 6: Joe Flack or why are you talking to shador? And

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Speaker 6: it makes no sense. And I like the way he

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Speaker 6: it a big deal. They're gonna twist his words. They're

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Speaker 6: gonna take it completely out of context. Listen, Dylan gave

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's being reported. Adam Schefter reported, and some

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Speaker 2: response to Rex Ryan saying what he said on the

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Speaker 2: Sunday Show that keep your mouth closed, moved to the

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Speaker 2: front of the class and X, Y and Z. I

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Speaker 2: guess this was a situation where he's like, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe that the scenario that

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Speaker 2: he didn't talk to his father. Obviously he leans very

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Speaker 2: through things like this where you know, he says something,

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Speaker 2: and then if he says something, it's one thing. If

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Speaker 2: he doesn't say something, it's another thing. So he took

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Speaker 2: this approach. Look, he's not just any other quarterback, any

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Speaker 2: other third string quarterback. You and I both know if

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Speaker 2: he was any other quarterback and he slid down where

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Speaker 2: he did, we wouldn't even be having it. If he

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Speaker 2: was any normal fifth round pick, we wouldn't even have

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Speaker 2: this discussion. But he's a filth round pick. So we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't ask ask him to act like a failth round pick,

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Speaker 2: because that's not what.

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Speaker 1: We believe he is. For me, look.

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Speaker 2: If he had took it, if he had took the

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Speaker 2: pro say, look, I'm happy for Dylan. Hopefully he goes

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Speaker 1: Joe.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for Joe, but you know, this is

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Speaker 2: in a I'm just you know, I'm happy for Dylan,

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Speaker 2: and my job doesn't change. I go out there, I prepare,

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Speaker 2: uh and if my time, if my number is called,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out there and give it everything that

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Speaker 2: possibly got. That's really the only thing that he can say.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, what what's he's What's he supposed to say?

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Speaker 2: Now it's a situation. I'm not you know. We had

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Speaker 1: Why Why is Joe Flacco here? We know fla over

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland was before and then let him go.

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Speaker 2: He was in Indy and he wasn't let him get

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Speaker 2: the straight He wasn't the answer to first time around

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Speaker 1: He wasn't the answer in Indy.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't the answer at the Jets, but now he's

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Speaker 2: going to be the answer this time around. Joe Flacco

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Speaker 2: hadn't been the answer since twenty twelve when he won't

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, O, Joe Nigga. I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he was the answer. It was more

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Speaker 6: sure of the short term the shirt, excuse me, the

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Speaker 6: short term answer until they're ready to see who's going

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Speaker 6: to be quarterback number two. We find out who quarterback

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Speaker 6: number two was, and it was only a matter of time.

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Speaker 6: Same thing with Russell Wilson and Jackson Dark. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 6: was the starter. He was, He was a starter for

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Speaker 6: for a short time, like you said, eight weeks or

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Speaker 6: maybe after. I thought it would have been way. I

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Speaker 6: thought it had been far beyond that. But obviously we

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Speaker 6: see what happened. They made it change after week three.

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Speaker 4: Same concept.

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Speaker 6: I knew, I knew he wasn't going to be there

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Speaker 6: being there too long, and I mean, listen, Dylan Gabriels

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Speaker 6: now the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I wish him luck and we gonna see.

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Speaker 6: To me, to be honest with you, I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's an I don't think it's the answer, and we're

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Speaker 4: Listen, this ain't the preseason. This ain't the preseason, and

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Speaker 4: the defenses.

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Speaker 6: That you're gonna see now are gonna be a lot

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Speaker 6: more different than for sure a preseason. So if you

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Speaker 6: can have if he can handle the pressure, one of

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Speaker 6: the things I do like about Dylan Gabriel And not

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Speaker 6: only can he throw the ball. He showed that he

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Speaker 6: can be efficient in the preseason, but he's also a

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Speaker 6: dual threat. He can use his legs. Sentiment to Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying Jackson dark, but I'm just saying he

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Speaker 6: had that dual threat capability and being able to extend

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's funny how we look at things now.

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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston has a big personality. He's a third string quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Everybody would have loted Jamis had he did the exact

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Speaker 2: same thing, right, I mean, think about it, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: the funny things that he said and the manner rhythms

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Speaker 2: that he has. Yes, this is Jamis. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 2: have a problem with should do. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: should do a win? If he says something, he shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have said anything. If he doesn't say anything, he should

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Speaker 2: have said something. Until he gets on the field and

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Speaker 2: somebody can say either see I told you he could play,

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Speaker 2: or I told you he couldn't play. It's gonna be something,

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe. That's just the way. That's just the nature

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Speaker 2: of what it is.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, it's it's totally unfortunate too. Una.

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Speaker 6: If it was any fifth round pick, he wouldn't be

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Speaker 6: talked about like this, No, because this would come with

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Speaker 6: that last name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, this was coming with.

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Speaker 6: The order of being a Sanders. It just it is

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Speaker 6: what it is. Obviously, I feel the browns in the organization, Sefanski.

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Speaker 6: Obviously the owner himself came out and said, this wasn't

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Speaker 6: my pick. This is not who I wanted. So the

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Speaker 6: odds are stacked against him. The car that he dealt.

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Speaker 6: He gonna have to do his best job and play

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Speaker 6: in the hand that he has when that opportunity comes.

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Speaker 4: If it does come, you got to come out. You

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Speaker 6: You got to be prepared, and when you get it,

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Speaker 6: you got to shut that door behind you.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Look and people say, well, James proved

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Speaker 1: himself what that he was. He's a journeyman quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: threw thirty picks.

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Speaker 2: He was the last quarterback in the NFL since you

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Speaker 2: got to go back to Teesta Verdy in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Then threw thirty interceptions. So I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: what did he improve he took Did he take Tampa

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Speaker 2: to did he take Tampa to the super Bowl? Because

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Speaker 2: all I know the team that he left, Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, guys, you said he proved, what

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Speaker 1: did he prove if he approved?

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Speaker 2: Guess where he'd been on Joe not to back up

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Speaker 2: in New York. Where were your being because where where

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Speaker 2: was he last year? Joe Cleveland?

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Speaker 4: Cleveland?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in New Orleans before that.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying, I'm saying the personality matches. We can

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Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct, But I I there are a lot

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Speaker 1: Here's the MVP. Go look at Joe Flacco playoff numbers.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying the personalities. When we like somebody, oho,

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Speaker 2: See we like James James funny man. Y'all heard what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jamie Jamis is one on one James say there

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Speaker 6: there isn't another person athitty like him. I think Shador

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Speaker 4: People that like Dion.

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Speaker 6: So any any ill will towards Dion and just overflowing

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Speaker 6: You've been prepared for this, you had to deal all

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Speaker 6: And that's pretty much it. All the noise, block all

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Speaker 1: It's just unusual to see the starter get benched.

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Speaker 2: Was already third, shouldn't Everybody just like move up a

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know, Ojo, but it seemed like this

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What the ojo is fifty? I mean, I want to play.

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Speaker 1: He's two cocky, he's too this, he does this, and

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Speaker 4: No, it's not, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Are you muted.

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Speaker 5: Me?

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Speaker 1: He ain't said nothing. I can't hear him.

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Speaker 4: You can't hear me?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Just me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you I'm talking to You can't hear me that? Hey?

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Speaker 4: Can you see my muscles? You see my muscles? A check?

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Speaker 4: Can you see my muscles?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. You got me now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you go ahead.

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Speaker 2: But they but it's it's a situation, O Joe. People

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Speaker 2: what it comes That's what it comes down to. Ojoe

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Speaker 2: Now he's gonna either prove a camp right or he's

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Speaker 2: see now, that's why he's led to the fifth round. Man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all see how he playing. He

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Speaker 1: You don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he talked to his dad. His dad like, look, son,

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Speaker 2: if it was me, you handle it. You're your own guy,

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Speaker 2: You're your own man. But Rex said, I don't know exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's what got lebron in trouble with Bronnie. Bronnie was

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Speaker 1: You put a huge target.

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Speaker 2: Now, I get it when you hear you know, you

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Speaker 2: But when you put it out there like that, Ojo, Man,

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Speaker 1: We can get back to that in minute. We got

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Speaker 2: We got former pro bowler, former Raven, former New York

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Speaker 1: Darren, how you doing it wrong?

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Speaker 5: Man? How y'all doing? Appreciate your having me.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm doing amazing. Let me ask bro you play it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, you have a little set back and

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Speaker 7: I feel like mentally and emotionally, I felt I kept

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Speaker 6: You know when I think about it too, when you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just feel a lot lighter, a lot pure

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Speaker 7: just in my life, you know, I feel like there

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Speaker 5: Escape the game in a way.

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Speaker 7: But now I feel like the perspective I got from

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, that's dope.

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Speaker 2: When you stepped away from the game, did you think

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Speaker 7: I feel like dudes ain't just really just like stepping

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Speaker 7: Usually they step away it's like there really ain't no

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Speaker 7: So I'm like, shit, I practiced maybe three full practices

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Speaker 7: Gonna be like when I step back into this, like

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Speaker 7: It was just like you couldn't even script that for real.

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Speaker 6: But when you think about it too, when you were

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited for you. Sky's is obviously limits.

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Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill is now gone, and so that puts you

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Speaker 4: You all damn day all damn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: Straight up, how long did it take you for your

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Speaker 2: this is where my dangerous body of danger over here,

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Speaker 1: I need to get up in my shadow.

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Speaker 2: I need it been left, I need to been right.

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Speaker 7: I feel like the spacing, reading his zone, seeing how

441
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 7: things coverages react from the disguise, like post snap, I

442
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 7: feel like all that shit's got to come back with reps.

443
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, and speaking of reps, was the

444
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: game too fast for you?

445
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 7: Did it?

446
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 4: Did it feel like you were moving so much?

447
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 5: A little bit?

448
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 6: Being that you've been away from the game and listen,

449
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 6: you didn't get a chance of playing the preseason, I'm

450
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 6: not sure, but game speeding totally different. It doesn't how

451
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 6: much you practice. Once you get in the game playing against.

452
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 4: Somebody else, you'd be like, what the hell have you

453
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 4: caught up to that? Yet? They are your legs? Are

454
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 4: your legs up underneath you?

455
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 5: Yes, I feel like it was a good start Monday,

456
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

457
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 7: Like I was getting you know, reps against guys like

458
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 7: Sauce and you know, there's good there's good athletic guys

459
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 7: on that defense that's moving fast.

460
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 5: So I feel like it's a good start.

461
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 7: And you know, I probably see matchup guys with guys

462
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 7: like JC on Sunday with the Panthers. They they got

463
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 7: some guys that can cover. So I mean I feel

464
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,239
Speaker 7: it's only gonna get better for me. I feel like

465
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 7: the little things tops of the routes, just to feel

466
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 7: like how I'm feeling and stems and just you know,

467
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 7: playing fast and not really thinking is gonna probably take

468
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 7: some time, but I feel like I'm probably further along.

469
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 5: And I think I was just off Monday night because

470
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 5: I ain't know what to expect.

471
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Speaker 2: I think the thing is that you, like you said,

472
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you really haven't. It wasn't like you running

473
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: routes because you didn't know if you were gonna come back.

474
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: And so now basically they putting you out there. You

475
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: got to hey, do I rip? Do I swim? What

476
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: do I do? Do I press? I mean, do I

477
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: get on the outside. I know I don't want to

478
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: square him up because I don't want him to give

479
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: my whole chance. I just want to get my shoulder

480
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: to it. How soon did the route running aspect of.

481
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: It come back?

482
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 7: Like I said, But it's still coming back, bro, Like

483
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 7: I got so, I had got injured when a few

484
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 7: weeks into my training and when I said, all right,

485
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 7: I'm gonna play again, and that had me out for

486
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 7: real until last week. So like I had a few

487
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 7: practices before I got hopped in that game. So it's

488
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 7: really all just coming back to me as we go along.

489
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 7: So like these Wednesday, these Thursday practices, it is like

490
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 7: super intentional.

491
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: You get better and feel super intentional for.

492
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 7: Me to kind of like, all right, how can I

493
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 7: curate like everything that dudes was doing throughout camp? You know,

494
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 7: I'm kind of like trying to hustle up and kind

495
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 7: of get back into into that flow, but also just understand, like,

496
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 7: you know, I am where I am. I'm supposed to

497
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 7: be here right now. I ain't got to be where

498
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 7: anybody else is at in their journey.

499
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: My journey is probably as weird and unique as it gets.

500
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

501
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: With the Tyreek, were you on the field when Tyreek

502
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: got injured or did you see it on the jumbo

503
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: trying when I was right there.

504
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 7: So we had ran like I don't know if they

505
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 7: call it a crash concept in her day, but it's

506
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 7: like the dude in the slot runs like the twelve

507
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 7: yard out and you got the under from number one.

508
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: The smash route. Yeah, we smashed the smash.

509
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 5: Ran a little under from number one, and I seen

510
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 5: the ball over my head. So I turned, I'm like

511
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 5: and re caught it, and then I just saw like and.

512
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 7: Then I seen his leg dangling in the ocean's like

513
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 7: spot like just instantly, just like it just brought me

514
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 7: to the ground, like I ain't even know my body.

515
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 5: You just didn't even know how to react.

516
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they said he suffering suffered a dislocated knee,

517
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: ye torn a cl and maybe some other ligaments damage.

518
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: It was.

519
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: It's tough seeing that, so obviously, you know, and Mike

520
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: McDaniel is telling the story of how he you know,

521
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: he's joking with some of the guys like, guys, you

522
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: just make sure you get this win knowing because look,

523
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: you've been around.

524
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: This game enough.

525
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: You know with a s a serious injury nobody had.

526
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: The doctor doesn't have to tell you anything. You don't

527
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: have to hear a out of report. You've been around

528
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: this game enough, you see that.

529
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, he not coming back.

530
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, straight away, I turn around and I was like,

531
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 7: come come get him coming.

532
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: They gotta put him in the air cash immediately.

533
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you was with Gruden.

534
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: I think you were Gruden because he's like, hey, this guy,

535
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: he saw you. What has been the biggest difference between

536
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: Gruden and Mike McDaniel because they're both this this basically

537
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: the verbiage might be a little different, but this is

538
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: the West Coast system.

539
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that the similarities between the two just coming from.

540
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 7: Like the the founding fathers, like like Mike Shanahan and Gruden,

541
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 7: Like it's kind of easy for me to pick up

542
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 7: the concepts, like there's different words, different nuances, but they're

543
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 7: both really like they're one of one individuals, Like there's

544
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever met anybody with personalities like

545
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 7: like either one of them. They got their own unique

546
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 7: sense of humor. But I mean they love ball for real,

547
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 7: and they love giving putting the guys in position to

548
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 7: you know, do some with their career, do some with

549
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: their lives, you know. So they it's really fun energy

550
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 7: to be around. I fel like both of them got

551
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 7: just a distinct energy.

552
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, it's hard for you to say,

553
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: but the word out of there have been rapports that

554
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: he was too lenient, and guys would come in late

555
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: to practice, and guys would come in late the meetings,

556
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: and guys were overweight. What have you seen in your

557
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: short time there that lead you to believe that, you

558
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: know what, he's the guy that can get this fixed.

559
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: He's the guy that can turn this around and get

560
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: the Dolphins going.

561
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 7: In the right I've seen a sense of urgency just

562
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 7: since July from cleaning up, you know, like the finds

563
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 7: that guys had from last year and just like all

564
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 7: the little things that's just like how the fuck are

565
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 7: we doing this and thinking that we're going to win.

566
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 5: Like I feel like.

567
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 7: He's put in his energy and use his words to

568
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 7: be like, hey, like this is this has got to change,

569
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 7: and you know, of course it starts with me. But

570
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 7: at the same time, it's like it's really up to

571
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 7: the guys in the locker room to police this. And

572
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 7: I feel like the captains have really really gone out

573
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 7: that way for sure, to make sure things are different

574
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 7: from that regard, you know, and the results on the field.

575
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's like, Okay, it may take a while to

576
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 7: get things going, like that's how the league goes.

577
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: It's just super competitive.

578
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 7: But from the standpoint of little things like you just described,

579
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 7: I haven't seen any of that this year, and so

580
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 7: it's like all right, like once you have that out

581
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 7: the way, like we can actually go somewhere.

582
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: Locker room controls the football team, They police, they run.

583
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: You got to show me the team to have the

584
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: strong locker room, and I'll show you a team that

585
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: consistently win. You show me a team that like that

586
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: the locker room and the guys don't hold the other

587
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: guys accountable, And I'll show you a team just let me.

588
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: You let me go.

589
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: You put me in any locker room for a week,

590
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: and I don't know anything. So I'm going in the blind.

591
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna happen to be in the locker room.

592
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be observant. I'll tell you who's winning

593
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: and who's losing.

594
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, A d since you came back right

595
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: two years remove, obviously you get out when you come

596
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 6: back play for the Dolphins.

597
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 4: Obviously have your team goals.

598
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 6: From an individual standpoint, two years move for the game

599
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 6: of football. What would be a successful season to you

600
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 6: now that you return.

601
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 7: I think a successful year for me is you know,

602
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 7: really just kind of can't keep in the same mindset

603
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 7: I had before. It's like, I don't necessarily know if

604
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 7: it'll be one hundred catches. I don't know if it'll

605
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 7: be the metrics that they once were five six years ago,

606
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 7: but just the same process of like how many opportunities

607
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 7: it is, like those opportunities you don't get maximized. That's

608
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 7: how I kind of try to measure success, try to

609
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 7: get away from like the stats and everything like that

610
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 7: and really just kind of like being a leader, kind

611
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 7: of being one of those guys like that. Shannon was

612
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 7: just discussing like I'm the oldest guy on the team,

613
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 7: I think, which which is wild. Like I's turned thirty

614
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 7: three September thirteenth. That ain't bad as young, right, So

615
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 7: just kind of like embodying that presence too, and just

616
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 7: kind of like some of the shit that I've been

617
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 7: through coming in going back, like going from where I

618
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 7: was in my career, I can relate to where any

619
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 7: of these dudes is that in a career, from practice

620
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 7: squad to getting cut to getting traded to on the rise,

621
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 7: like just kind of stepping up in my leadership ability.

622
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: That will say as well, now that you're back in football,

623
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: because when you stepped away from the game, you stepped

624
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: into music. Obviously that's a passion of yours. But now

625
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: that you're back in football, have you put music on

626
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: the back burner if that's something that you're gonna pick

627
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: back up once your football career.

628
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: Is Yeah, it's kind of on a back burner for

629
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 5: now for sure.

630
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 7: Like I've I think I've written of one verse or

631
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 7: two since July and like a hook or two for

632
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: a song, but like.

633
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 5: I haven't really been doing anything.

634
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 7: It's been focused on football for reer, Like I got

635
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 7: a lot of songs like I like tease some shit,

636
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 7: like put some music behind some posts out put out,

637
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 7: but all those songs are recorded before I even got

638
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 7: back out here.

639
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: So and it'll be nice take a break because I.

640
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 7: Was going hard with it and creating in my time off,

641
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 7: and so I feel like it's a good flow for

642
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 7: me to be back in ball. And when it's time

643
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 7: to get pick the mic back up again, I feel

644
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: like I'll be ready.

645
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I heard a whole lot of rappers

646
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: from Georgia Tech.

647
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: But okay, hey it's a new glad to do that,

648
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, Yes, it's a new thing there, like hey

649
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: we we we over do it.

650
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

651
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: Hey, you know, one of one of my hobbies and

652
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: one of my passions is you know, I write. I've

653
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: written for a few a few artists. So at any

654
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: point you picked that mic back up.

655
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Let me know.

656
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 6: I've written for Drake, I've written for for for Nicki Minaj,

657
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 6: I've written for a.

658
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 5: Little song you got, you got real credits?

659
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got.

660
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: I got real credit.

661
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: If you ever I wrote for if you, if you

662
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: look at their credits on some of the songs that

663
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 6: I've done, I'm in the credits songs.

664
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 5: Huh your connection worked up?

665
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got. I'm gonna shure it to you. I'm

666
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: gonna send it to you.

667
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, we get in the studio, do a

668
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 6: little something dueo little duet or something.

669
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 5: Bro And you know what's the best.

670
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 7: What's the bestiguard lounge in South Florida. I'm in like

671
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 7: for Louerdale area.

672
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, we're gonna go together.

673
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: Smoke on the water, Smoke on the water, Smoke on the.

674
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: Water right there, right of Royal Palm, Royal Palm, Bulevard.

675
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you know, Darren, I don't do nothing to

676
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: smoke them all, them all, Daniel Marshall's.

677
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: Hey, send me my cigars man.

678
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: Whoa what I'm talking? I'm talking to the gas. They

679
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: got nothing to do with you. Oh Choe. I tell you, man,

680
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: when I smoke, you don't even smoke, o choe. You see,

681
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that the Daniel Marshall those twenty

682
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: four carried you know, I got like, I got a

683
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: box of those.

684
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you send the smoke cigars?

685
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 6: Hey, hey d Yeah on Pemberg Pies, Pemberle Pies Boulevard.

686
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 6: There's another cigar bar called Fishing NADOs and the two

687
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 6: I go to is real nice.

688
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 5: I ain't smoking twenty four carry gold, but yeah, you the.

689
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Goal leave your little gold something.

690
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: You know, Daniel Marshall, when next time you go to

691
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: the cigar bar, that they gonna be in the case.

692
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: You just can't go pull them because you.

693
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Know they're like they're like eighty five to one hund

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: than twenty a stick.

695
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: But you know, nah a d don't listen to him

696
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 6: them sticking called two eighty nine o'clock.

697
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: All that listen, Yeah, idiot, oh Joe, why you man?

698
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: Because I got it. I got a box of him.

699
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Damn you A.

700
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: Couple Hey, heyded them sticks is probably sent to him

701
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 6: by accident.

702
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: It was probably for me. You don't smoke cigars?

703
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa WHOA, We'll get you.

704
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: They're in the twenty twenty, you founded a Darren Waller

705
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Foundation with the mission to equip youth to avoid and

706
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: overcome addiction of drugs and alcohol, support the youth and

707
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: their family during the recovery and treatment a journey. I

708
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: don't know how well our audience know, but you originally

709
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: drafted by the Ravens. I mean a guy that you're

710
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: that's your size six five and a half two hundred

711
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: and fifty five pounds can run like you can run.

712
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: You a matchup problem. No linebackers doing anything with your safety.

713
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: They're just too small. People are putting their best corner.

714
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: You beat Salt four touchdown. You were getting when you

715
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: were at your prime, when you were with the Raiders.

716
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna get my record that day too.

717
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: I think you had like fifteen catching for two hundred yards.

718
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, he go get it to overcome what

719
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: you overcame when you were at your darkest. Did you

720
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: understand that, man, I'm throwing this great opportunity away.

721
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Did you Did you understand when you're in it?

722
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Do you understand or do you realize that you actually

723
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: have an addiction? Who told you you have an addiction,

724
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: When did you realize you had?

725
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I feel like in the moment,

726
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 7: I don't think you can. I think you're too numb.

727
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 7: At least I was like for me, like the the

728
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 7: drinking and shit like that was to numb a lot

729
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 7: of things I was feeling, thinking, experiencing. So in those

730
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 7: moments where you know, a normal person would feel like,

731
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 7: oh fuck, like I'm throwing this shit away, like I

732
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 7: don't have access.

733
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 5: To that feeling like it's all kind of shut off,

734
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

735
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: And I had guys like Ben Watson was with the

736
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 7: Ravens when I was there, like right before I got suspended,

737
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 7: and he was like, if you could just like lock in, bro,

738
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 7: like you don't know where this shit could go, like

739
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 7: like a whole bunch of people just telling me that,

740
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 7: and I'm just like I can't really receive it because

741
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 7: I also don't really have.

742
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: That much confidence in myself.

743
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 7: So I realized I was addicted when because I odd

744
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen, it was like a month before what

745
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 7: would have been my third season, and I was probably

746
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 7: gonna be a starting tight end in Baltimore. That year

747
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 7: I was twenty seventeen, and uh yeah, I odeed and

748
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 7: then went to rehab a month later. And I'm just

749
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 7: sitting there listening to what if they're saying. I'm like, damn,

750
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 7: like I definitely that you understand me. And it's all

751
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 7: throughout my family, you know what I'm saying, Like throughout

752
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 7: like the generations of my family. It's kind of like

753
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 7: impacted a lot of people, so it's passed on to me.

754
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 7: And then being able to have the opportunity to be like,

755
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 7: all right, I could change the course of generations going

756
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 7: forward from my family and also just you know, be

757
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 7: somebody that people can look to because like shit, I

758
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 7: don't fuck up plenty of times, but they could they

759
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 7: could still be successful whatever they got going.

760
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: How old were you when you started drinking or you

761
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: started dabbling with drugs? Were you young or whether you

762
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: got to college you started drinking, you know, college atmosphere,

763
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: whether it at high school.

764
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 5: I was pretty young. I was like fifteen.

765
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 7: I got into like painkillers, like the hydro codon five milligrams,

766
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: first started smoking weed and drinking after that, probably like

767
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 7: junior year, and was just kind of off from there.

768
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 7: It got real crazy through college and through my first

769
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 7: couple of years in the league, and then so it's

770
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 7: about like a ten year run from like fifteen to

771
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 7: I got sober like a month before my twenty fifth birthday.

772
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: What would you want your what message would you like

773
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: to share with the youth about what they can potentially overcome?

774
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: Given you're the best person, You're the best teacher because

775
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: you've overcome something. You know a lot of what these

776
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: kids are dealing with. You know a lot of the science,

777
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: you know a lot of the symptoms, you know a

778
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: lot of Man, I'm alright, no you're not. Because at

779
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: that seat that you're sitting in, I sat in that

780
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: seat for about a decade. Now I'm in this seat

781
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: and I want to share with you the message of

782
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: how you can beat this addiction.

783
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: The message for me is just like.

784
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 7: There are so many different ways that we try to

785
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 7: mask what we really feeling or who we really are.

786
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 5: We compare ourselves to so many different people.

787
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 7: There has to be some level of return to authenticity,

788
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: find like a comfortability, like a peacefulness and a joy

789
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 7: and just being like exactly who you are, because I

790
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 7: feel like me this young kid, I was like it

791
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: all stemmed from the pain I felt from feeling like

792
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 7: I was always like the odd man out, or people

793
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 7: thought I.

794
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: Was too weird, or I had big ears, big feet.

795
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 7: I was getting roasted, or like it all started from

796
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 7: all these all these little things that I was like, Man,

797
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 7: I don't feel like I'm right good enough, and I

798
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 7: want to turn to things that make me feel like

799
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 7: I'm good enough or at least forget the fact that

800
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 7: I'm not good enough. And when really it's like there

801
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 7: are people around you that are going through the same things.

802
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 7: We just all try to act like we don't have

803
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 7: stuff going on in our lives. So it's really just

804
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: being yourself. You're going to tract people to you that

805
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 7: love you for who you are and that will support

806
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 7: you whatever you go through.

807
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: So I would just say, you know, there is really.

808
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 7: No peace, no sobriety possible if you don't find ways

809
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 7: to really deal with the pain and trauma that happened

810
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 7: earlier in your life or whenever in your life, and

811
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 7: just yeah, finding peace with just being who you are,

812
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 7: whether people like it or not.

813
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: I like that happiness happening is is you know, people

814
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: say I found happiness, but happiness is something that you create.

815
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: Peace is something that you create. How long did it

816
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: take you to get to that point that you says

817
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm at peace with Darren.

818
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy with that.

819
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 7: It's been elusive man, to be honest, Like, I think

820
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 7: my journey with like sobriety is kind of seeing lot

821
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 7: differently started like twenty seventeen, and I feel like there

822
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 7: were a couple of years in there where I was like, okay,

823
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 7: like I'm moving in the right direction, and then there's

824
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 7: some years in there where I'm like, I don't know,

825
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm kind of moving away, like I'm

826
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 7: still sober, but there's still like still something that's nothing

827
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 7: locking a little bit from you know, say twenty one

828
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 7: to twenty three. And then it's like, since we're hiring,

829
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: it's opened up nothing but a path for me to

830
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 7: just go as deep as possible with those kind of

831
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 7: things and really just look at myself in the mirror.

832
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 7: And now I feel like it's like a lot more attainable.

833
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 7: I feel like the happiness is fleeting, but it's like

834
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 7: I'm a lot more content with my life, Like I

835
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 7: don't need I can step into football and just be

836
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 7: like what I'm gonna just I want to have this

837
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: experiences is what I want to do. I don't need

838
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 7: it to do something for me to validate me to

839
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 7: do X, Y and Z. It's just like I'm shooting

840
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 7: this is the way I'm choosing to live my life,

841
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna enjoy that shit.

842
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 6: And that's dope, man. The funny thing about it too,

843
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: I'm really glad. I mean, I'm really glad you're able

844
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 6: to be authentic and roll in answering these questions. Don't

845
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: the questions of phenomenal do because there are people that

846
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 6: are probably in the chat, there are people that are

847
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 6: going to see this, and people that are dealing with

848
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 6: the same issues you are and not knowing how to

849
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: navigate those situations or how to deal with it. And

850
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 6: you being a testimony and being someone that has had

851
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 6: issues but gotten the help and look where you're out

852
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 6: now that I mean, dude, that's that's an amazing story.

853
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: And kudos to you.

854
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: For having, for one discipline to do it and stick

855
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 6: to it and be be able to live out your

856
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: childhood dream again because most times people don't get a

857
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 6: second chance.

858
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. There We're gonna get you out of here

859
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: on this one.

860
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: Now that you're back, have you put a timetable or

861
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: time limit on how how long you want to play?

862
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Are you taking it year by year?

863
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: Or you was like, you know what, I really like

864
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: to get two or three more in or you saying,

865
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: you know what, All I know is that I'm gonna

866
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: play twenty twenty five, and I worry about twenty twenty

867
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: six and twenty twenty six and beyond once that time arrived.

868
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: But right now, I'm in the here. I'm in the now,

869
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: and that's all I can think.

870
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 7: I think you really just said it right there, man,

871
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 7: because it's like after experiences like Monday, because I came in,

872
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 7: like I said, I got hurt my first goal to train,

873
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, bro we on this shit again, Like

874
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 7: this said still this sits still happening, and so I'm

875
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 7: like there's doubt, there's fear, like did I even make

876
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 7: the right decision coming back, But then having like a

877
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 7: night like Monday, it's like, well, wait, like this feels

878
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 7: like there's still like plenty left here. Maybe there is

879
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: something more in the future, but it's like I feel like,

880
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 7: like you just said playing this season, giving this season

881
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 7: my all, and then really evaluating from there, and so

882
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 7: I'm open to everything.

883
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to say I'm done. This is just

884
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: one chapter, because you know, I don't really know.

885
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 7: Every time I thought I've had my life figured out

886
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 7: in which direction it should go, I feel like God

887
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 7: has flipped the script and been like, hopefully going this

888
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 7: way now, because I was I was set on not

889
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 7: playing football ever again. But it's like here I am,

890
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 7: so I'm trying to just remain open.

891
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: Well, Darren, thanks for joining us tonight.

892
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: Man, congratulations on all the success, everything that you've overcome.

893
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: Lets us know that there is a God and that

894
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: anything is possible. Stay healthy and after the season come

895
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: back and talk to us.

896
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: Certain Man, I appreciate you always.

897
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on.

898
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: Man Waller tight end for the Miami Dolphins to go

899
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: through what he's gone through, Ohoe, to be able to

900
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: overcome because you know, hey, like you said, he was

901
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: about to start in Baltimore and ended up getting suspended

902
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: a couple of times, and they like they moved on,

903
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: and now he ends up with the Raiders and he's

904
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl player.

905
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he's at the top. He's one of those

906
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: top players.

907
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: And then you know, all of a sudden, abruptly, you know,

908
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: he steps away from the game, and for two years

909
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: he's like and say, you know what, I want to

910
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: come back. And kudos to the Dolphins for giving the opportunity.

911
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if there were other teams out there

912
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: willing to give him an opportunity, but I know the

913
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: Dolphins was one because he's playing with the Dolphins.

914
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: And so it's always great.

915
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: When you know you're here, you're down here, and then

916
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: you're back up here again. And so, like you said,

917
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't know if he'll ever be what he once

918
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: was in his prime, but for him to come back

919
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: and to show that there's a possibility because oho, you

920
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: and not.

921
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: Talk about it all the time.

922
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: It's easier to get into the league then get out

923
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: and try to get your butt back.

924
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 4: In back in.

925
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but listen, if if you're really good, you leave

926
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 6: a good impression before you leave, the chances you coming

927
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 6: back they pretty good. The mismatch nightmare you think about,

928
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 6: think about this. Remember when Jimmy Graham's with the Saints. Yep,

929
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 6: you see what he looked like. Yep, gronk. I'm not

930
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 6: saying he's gronk I'm not saying he Jimmy Graham, but

931
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that he's a mismatched nightmare. Yes, he

932
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 6: can go out there out wide and go against receivers.

933
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 6: I mean, he just he's really good and he got

934
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 6: a small sample side to that when they played Monday night.

935
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: Yep.

936
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh, let's let's pivot back to the Cleveland Brown situation

937
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: with Dylan Gabriel being named starter. Yeah, should we be

938
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: surprised that he's the he was named starter?

939
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 6: No, I mean, he was a number two. It shouldn't

940
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 6: be a surprise at all. He shouldn't be a surprised

941
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 6: at all.

942
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: He was.

943
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 6: He listened, mister Fancy came out before the season started

944
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 6: and he said that Dylan Gabriel will be the number

945
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 6: two quarterback.

946
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it is. That's what it is.

947
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 6: So we knew that whatever point things weren't going with

948
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: with Flacco, Dylan Gabriel will be the next man up.

949
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 6: Now things don't go well with Dylan Gabriel, I don't

950
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 6: know what's gonna happen from that point on.

951
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: That that feed, that's where I was going next.

952
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: You're right, oh, Jo, Because it was reported that Gabriel

953
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: was getting first team reps along with Flacco its earliest

954
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: training camp, so he was getting first team reps.

955
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Flacco was getting first team reps. And who's the court

956
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: of the quarterback.

957
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: Damn from the Steelers Kenny Pickett.

958
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny, yeah Picket. So those guys were getting first

959
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: team reps. Should do it wasn't getting those reps. So

960
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: I agree we shouldn't be surprised. The question that I

961
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: have for you if Gabriel struggles, now, what do we do?

962
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Do they go back to flat or they said, oh,

963
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: do they give your door an opportunity?

964
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what?

965
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: I'm not sure and knowing knowing the game, understanding the

966
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 6: business and knowing how the business works, I think they

967
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 6: will probably go back to Flaco. I think they would

968
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 6: go back to flack On if things don't work out

969
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: again in Flacco is still not successful when he returns

970
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 6: back to the field, then I think Shaduer will get

971
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 6: his shot somewhere on the back half for the season.

972
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Ojo, let me ask you a question. Talk to me.

973
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: If you think Shaduer knew what he knew now, you

974
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: think he goes back to Colorado boards last year?

975
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: If he knew what he knows now if he knows

976
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: what he knows.

977
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Now hindsight, Yeah, probably so.

978
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: Probably I think so too, I would think.

979
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: But there's no possible way. There's no possible way, o Jo.

980
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: There is not a scenario that anybody thought. Okay, let's

981
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 2: just say, o Jo, he's not the first pick, he's

982
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: not a top five, he's not a top ten. Let's

983
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: just say you know what, Ojo, because you're not having

984
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: this conversation. Yeah, let's just say that he's not a

985
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: first round pick. Thirty two players going to be selected

986
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: in the first round. Right, Ain't no way he thought

987
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: he'd be a fifth round draft pick.

988
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely not, absolutely not, not all And some people listen

989
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 6: to some people to say, well, he wasn't that good.

990
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 6: He was mad, he would listen. He can play the

991
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 6: quarterback position. He can play the quarterback position. He does,

992
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 6: he does. He's not a dual threat, but what he

993
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 6: lacks in his ability to run the ball he.

994
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: Makes up in other areas.

995
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: He has other intangibles that makes him a quality quarterback

996
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 6: where he should get an opportunity to start on an

997
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: NFL team, And until he gets the opportunity to approve

998
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 6: he can do just that, We're gonna have to wait

999
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 6: and see.

1000
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: He should apply for a hardship for COVID. I would say,

1001
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: I would say I would to go back and play.

1002
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: You're right, I mean, there's really like no way to

1003
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: really know. I mean, hell, I didn't. Somebody would have

1004
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: told me I was gonna be a Selver Ride draft pick.

1005
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: I say, you ought your damn mind.

1006
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was the number I was the number

1007
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: one rated, one of the number one rated players below

1008
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: Division one. So I'm like, Okay, I ain't gonna go

1009
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: to the first round, but somebody tell me I'm gonna

1010
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: be I'm not gonna be a top third round, a

1011
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: top three round pick. Man.

1012
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: Please me, let me tell you something. You've been around

1013
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: a long time.

1014
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 6: I've been around long enough to understand that business and

1015
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: how that business works. Yeah, anything they don't like about

1016
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 6: you before you get there, they will find a way

1017
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 6: to humble you.

1018
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: They will find him to humble you.

1019
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 6: And when your opportunity does present itself or you gotta

1020
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 6: knock that goddamn though down and close it behind you,

1021
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 6: because you're not gonna get very many opportunities, especially if

1022
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 6: they don't like you.

1023
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: I would have Yeah, I would have I agree with you, Oh,

1024
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: because my brother used to tell me all the time.

1025
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: I said, Man, you know I've been training camp o, Joe,

1026
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, man, I ain't getting no rough today,

1027
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 2: or I'll be in practice. You know, once I any team,

1028
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: he said, don't worry about it.

1029
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: He said.

1030
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: One day John Elwig gonna call on you. He say,

1031
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: just make sure when he called your number.

1032
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: Ready, Ready, gotta be ready, he said.

1033
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: And and I think the thing that really helped me,

1034
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, is that he told me.

1035
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: He said, t you can, you could, you could be

1036
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: good in this league.

1037
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: He said, there ain't a whole lot of he ain't

1038
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: a whole lot of can do what you do now,

1039
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: he said, just keep working, you know, just keep working hard.

1040
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: I don't know why that man took a liking to me.

1041
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, Joe, I don't know why, But I

1042
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: mean for him and Gary Kubiak.

1043
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Kubiak Cool was the backup when I was different.

1044
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: When I first got there in ninety ninety one, Hey

1045
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: Cool used to pull me to the side. Now that's

1046
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: when you know somebody really take a liking to you.

1047
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: He pulled me to the side. He said he would

1048
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: show me. He say, Hey, now you're gonna be in

1049
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: here on this, this and this. You know what you got.

1050
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna be in this coverage you run this,

1051
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: You're gonna be on that coverage you run that.

1052
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I'll be I'll be out there doing like

1053
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, like okay, good job, good job shot.

1054
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: Hey you know what else? You know what else?

1055
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, oh Joe, they be like, good job. Drop.

1056
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about,

1057
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: getting your playbook to everything.

1058
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 4: You know what else.

1059
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 6: When I think about it, when I think about some

1060
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 6: of the things the fancy said, when I think about

1061
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: some of the things the owner said, they're baiting.

1062
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: Me to a little bit too.

1063
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 6: They baiting when you go to the army, when you

1064
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 6: go to the marine, when you go to the Navy,

1065
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 6: any of those places where it's astructural environment. What's the

1066
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 6: one thing they try to do to make sure to

1067
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 6: see if you're if you're ready.

1068
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 4: Or you're worthy.

1069
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: But you're gonna try to break you down.

1070
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 6: Trying to break you. They're trying. They're trying to break him.

1071
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 6: He cannot break, You cannot fold, you cannot.

1072
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: Last out hell, I can come there for hell, now

1073
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: can do none of that.

1074
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 6: You got to stay the course. You got to stay

1075
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 6: the course and focus on the end goal and prepare

1076
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 6: for that opportunity because it's gonna come. Yeah, It's definitely

1077
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 6: gonna come.

1078
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: Man O, Joe, Look, I'm gonna shure this or with you.

1079
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: I only shared it one time, and I shared it

1080
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: with when I spoke at Coach Reed's funeral, I was

1081
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: the only His wife called me and asked, would I speak?

1082
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Now?

1083
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: You got to realize all the people that he played with.

1084
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: He Coach Reeves played the league, he played on the

1085
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: coach Landry, all the coaches he coached. He was officive

1086
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: coordinated with the Cowboys. He was the head coach of

1087
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: the Broncos. He was the head coach of the Giants.

1088
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: He was the head coach of the Falcons. He asked

1089
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: me to She asked me to speak. I didn't know

1090
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: until like she told me, but she said, Shanney will

1091
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: be a huge honor if you were to speak at Dan.

1092
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm like, are you sure? Like She's like,

1093
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: I'm sure. She said, Shannon, you was always his favorite.

1094
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: He said, you worked so hard. He said, he saw

1095
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: how you came in and what you work and turned

1096
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 2: yourself into. He was just so proud. So I'm sure

1097
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: he would be honored if you spoke, O Jo. Every Sunday,

1098
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Coach Reeves would ask seven or eight of us what

1099
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: we had on a certain plate, God on this truth.

1100
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Every time he would call on me, he would already

1101
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: have sawt me. He would tell me he was step

1102
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: out in the hall. He would tell me, I'm going

1103
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,959
Speaker 2: to ask you this. This is what you need to say,

1104
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: said like this, And I'm like, why he ain't doing

1105
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 2: that for nobody else He's not. That's why it hurt

1106
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 2: me so bad, O Joe. When he got fired, I said,

1107
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: had I became because he got fired? To year I

1108
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: made my first Pro Bowl, I led the team and

1109
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: receive it. It hurt me so bad. I said, if

1110
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 2: I had only become what I later became in three

1111
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: through ninety eight, ain't no way Coach Reeves get fired.

1112
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: So that's why it hurt me because he invested so

1113
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: much in me. He believed in me. He did he

1114
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: drafted me. Somehow lost this damn mind and forgot to

1115
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: cut me and for him John and cool and coach

1116
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: reeve to take that kind of time, I promise you,

1117
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know.

1118
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: You don't quote me on this.

1119
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe that a head coach

1120
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: is taking that kind of interest in a seventh round

1121
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: draft pick.

1122
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: In today's game.

1123
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe John Elway, the number

1124
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: one pick in the nineteen eighty three draft, or he

1125
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: was a pro bowler, he was an All Pro, he

1126
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: was an MVB, had gone to three Super Bowls. It's

1127
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: taking that kind of liking in a seventh round draft pick.

1128
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: Gary Kubiak, who's the backup, is taking that kind of liking.

1129
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I ain't have no choice.

1130
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: It's like my grandmother when she put when she took

1131
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: my mom's three in after raising hers. I ain't have

1132
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 2: no choice on yo, How could I let these people

1133
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: down that had invested so much in me, that believed

1134
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: in me?

1135
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: How I couldn't?

1136
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: Man, I got a playbook a every night I'm going home,

1137
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna know everything. It became second nature,

1138
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: it became I knew, I knew what I had to do.

1139
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: It's hard to check this out on yo. Yeah, the

1140
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: tight end is normally uh why Yeah? And Dan's offense.

1141
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: He's ex the ex Yes, because coach Landry was a

1142
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. So everything is backwards one three five it

1143
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: is to the right, two four six eight it is

1144
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: to the left.

1145
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 3: Yes.

1146
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: So if it's backwards, that's not Z that's a wing

1147
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: X why.

1148
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: Wing three hy diag tight end is the x O

1149
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: choe tight end? Ben why's whole life? Two four six

1150
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: say you been to the right your whole life? One

1151
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 2: three five seven is to the left?

1152
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: O cho. Now you got verbage, Oh Joe, I came

1153
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: from the round tree fixed five four three seven? Man,

1154
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: what you mean? Fifty two doubles? Slang is special? What

1155
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: I got? I ain't never heard nothing like that?

1156
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, geez, my mind was with spinning.

1157
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: O Joe.

1158
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: I just want to know what is it gonna take.

1159
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: What do you believe it will take for your door

1160
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: to get an opportunity to start this season?

1161
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Because this is because.

1162
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: If he doesn't start this season, Oh Joe, the whole

1163
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: purpose of him not going to Baltimore. And it's reported

1164
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: that there were another team the Eagles also thought about

1165
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: selecting him. He said, no, I don't want to play

1166
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: behind her. I don't want to It wasn't that he

1167
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: didn't want to play behind guys like that. But you

1168
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 2: talk about a guy like Jamie Hurst is very doable.

1169
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't miss time, Lamar, you're.

1170
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 6: Not seeing the field. You're not seeing the field at

1171
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 6: old places. Now the opportunity to play.

1172
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: What happens if he doesn't see the field this year

1173
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: for Cleveland?

1174
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 6: Hey, that's that's one I don't know, and that's why

1175
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 6: I'm not understanding. But if he doesn't see the field

1176
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 6: this year for Cleveland being at there, they have shortcomings

1177
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 6: with Flacco and they have shortcomings with Dylan Gabriel, then

1178
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 6: that's my practice on ownership. It might be the point

1179
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 6: we have no choice but to put him in there,

1180
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: because not only is the team gonna call for him,

1181
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 6: the fans in the media gonna call for him as well.

1182
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: I definitely think the fans gonna be calling for if

1183
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Gabriel doesn't play well. I mean, look, just don't turn

1184
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: the ball over. Just don't just keep your defense off

1185
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: the field, for damn for thirty five forty minutes. I'm

1186
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: not asking you to be a world beater, but if

1187
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: you can give your defense, if you can score enough

1188
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: and keep the defense off the field where they're not

1189
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: playing thirty five to forty minutes.

1190
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: You gotta you gonna have a chance.

1191
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a chance to Defense is plenty good enough,

1192
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: but not if you wear them down.