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Speaker 2: Andy Ferman. And by the way, before we introduce our

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Speaker 2: he is my partner at the combine, mister football, the

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Speaker 2: hardest working man in show business, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 3: How are you, Buck?

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Speaker 4: I've no great Andy has everything.

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Speaker 2: Everything is beautiful, It really is. And I tell you what,

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Speaker 2: it's even better because guess who's back. Shay Shay. You

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Speaker 2: know what, Shay Shay say. Hello, but I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure everybody knows you're back alive, and well, I

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Speaker 2: can't believe it.

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Speaker 5: How are we doing going to be back?

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Speaker 2: You know your beg you bet to come back and

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Speaker 2: that that's a big deal for us because not many

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Speaker 2: people want to come back to us, and you did,

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Speaker 2: and we love you for that. We missed you and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to be back here for a

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Speaker 2: long time. So thank you so much for coming back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I chust to came back. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. We love you too.

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Speaker 2: It's great. It hasn't been the same, hasn't been the

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Speaker 2: same without you. But I got to talk to Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Been in Indianapolis at the combine, and I think the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing in Indianapolis right now is not watching those

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Speaker 2: guys running around their underwear. It's going to Saint Elmos.

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Speaker 2: Did you're go to Saint Elmos, Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 6: I have not been to Saint Elmos, but there's been

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Speaker 6: a crowd of people that have gone steady every night.

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Speaker 2: I bet they have a lot of deals have been

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Speaker 2: done in Saint Elmos. Okay, if you haven't gone to

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Speaker 2: Saint Elmos. Have you gone to Shapiro's Delhi. Those are

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Speaker 2: my two highlights in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: No, I did not know that. You didn't give me

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Speaker 2: Well, if you go there, ask with Brian Shapiro. He's

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Speaker 2: my buddy. He'll take care of you. You'll love Shapiro's Deli.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, How was it?

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Speaker 2: How was the combine anything different this year than the

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Speaker 2: year's past. I mean, what's the big deal about the combine?

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Speaker 2: I got to talk about that for a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, it's probably been the most impressive collection

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Speaker 6: of athletes that we've seen, by far, the fastest class

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Speaker 6: Guys are really testing well. Some of that is the

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Speaker 4: But this is by far the.

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Speaker 6: Most impressive class and collection of athletes that we've seen

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Speaker 2: these report cards from the NFL teams that were released

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Speaker 2: in fact do report cards to discuss the treatment of

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Speaker 3: What's the purpose of that? Why do they do that?

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Speaker 6: Some of it is the whole team's accountable, you know,

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Speaker 4: The players are treated.

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Speaker 6: The NFLPA, the union that represents the players, they want

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Speaker 4: And the reason they have these anonymous surveys is so they.

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Speaker 4: Owners don't like it.

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Speaker 6: Widdy Johnson played a big role in squashing this or

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Speaker 4: I mean, we were disappointed and the treatment.

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Speaker 2: Of the players, no doubt about that. Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Number One, who does the tabulation of these report cards?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's conducted by the Players Association.

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Speaker 6: Every player has an opportunity to submit an anonymous survey

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Speaker 6: they compiled all the data and that's how they come

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the players do this, it's tabulated by the

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Speaker 6: Well, originally they were always made public and then I

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Speaker 4: So that's that's kind of how it operated.

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Speaker 6: But it was designed to really hold teams and ownership

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Speaker 4: Et cetera.

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Speaker 2: the grades. The Carolina Panthers locker room is D. Have

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Speaker 2: if so, how do you get a D in a

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Speaker 6: I haven't been that locker room in a long time

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Speaker 4: It also can relate to maybe.

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Speaker 6: The cleanliness of the locker room, how often those locker

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Speaker 2: Okay, and there's a good opportunity now that that might

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Speaker 2: I would think that's the purpose of this whole report

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that is the purpose and that's why.

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Speaker 6: The owners see it as oh, they're either picking on

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Speaker 3: Okay, explain this one to me.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns get a D for treatment of families

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Speaker 2: you work for an NFL team. How does the team

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Speaker 6: It's thee in the entire hospitality experience of the families.

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Speaker 6: Like if families are bringing little kids but the kids

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Speaker 4: How you're living up to those expectations.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's probably like something to do with just

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Speaker 2: Okay, moving to your team right now, the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 4: You already saw some changes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you saw some changes in the offseason

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Speaker 2: But that wasn't because it is survey, because they probably

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Speaker 6: I mean, you don't know some people are released, but

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Speaker 6: what it probably indicates when you have movement that matches

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Speaker 6: the report card. Maybe the top people also saw that

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Speaker 2: All right, this is the last thing I touch on

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Speaker 2: because this really shocked me and the report card survey.

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Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins finished first. How could that be? I mean,

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Speaker 2: the team was terrible. They really were. But training room

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Speaker 6: Well, it's possible, because, man, they really had a lot

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Speaker 2: And we're going to have us mentioned as Bucky, but

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Speaker 2: also our number two yay or nay returns. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody will be involved with that, Marked and Shasy and

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Speaker 2: everybody else. And now number three the blame game. But

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Speaker 2: right now the question is will one quarterback tone it down?

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Speaker 2: That's next.

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Speaker 2: All right, this league has no class. That's right around

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Speaker 2: on foxbuts ready, here Spucky Brooks and Andy Furman, and

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Speaker 2: we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: And let's guide it into this because Bucky Brooks is

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Speaker 2: live and in person at the Combine in Indianapolis. And

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Speaker 2: how many years have you been at the Combine? Now, book,

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Speaker 2: I think this is twenty six?

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Speaker 7: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Interesting?

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Speaker 2: All right, I got I got some Combine questions for you.

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Speaker 2: What happens if you're a no show? You you're a

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Speaker 2: college football player, pretty decent play. You think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: go to the NFL, but you don't go for whatever

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Speaker 2: the reason, because I think you have to be invited

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Speaker 2: to go to the Combine.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: You have to be invited.

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Speaker 6: It'd be kind of silly to turn down your invite

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Speaker 6: because what you always had the option to doing is

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Speaker 6: not participate in any of the on field things and

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Speaker 6: just do to off field things, interviews, medical checks. You

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Speaker 6: need to get that done because that's important because people

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Speaker 6: aren't going to draft you without having a medical evaluation done.

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Speaker 6: So you need to go like you tore Peter. Your

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Speaker 6: chance of being drafted if you don't agree to some

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Speaker 6: of those things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's pretty important to go to the combine.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at some of these events column events.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Olympics. It really is forty yard dash,

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Speaker 2: ten yard split. I guess what's a ten yard split?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what that is.

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Speaker 6: Ten years split how fast you run in the first

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Speaker 6: ten yards of the run. And there's a direct correlation

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Speaker 6: in some positions between how fast you run the first

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Speaker 6: ten yards in how you perform at that position. For instance,

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Speaker 6: pass rushers, the ten yard split really really matters. Guys

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Speaker 6: that are clocking sub one point six to zero seconds fast,

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Speaker 6: get off, quick, first step, quickness, all that other stuff.

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Speaker 4: So you really like those things where.

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Speaker 6: Forty isn't indicative of performance for a pass rusher before

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Speaker 6: like DB's and wide receivers, it matters, But the ten

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Speaker 6: yeard split is important.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they got the vertical jump on the broad jump.

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Speaker 2: Tell me, I mean you get a defense and it's

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Speaker 2: a alignment. He's going to do a broad jump?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: Mean it's useless, it's a joke. It really is broad

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Speaker 2: jumping vertical jump.

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Speaker 4: Come on, it is not. The guys who typically run

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Speaker 4: fast jump high.

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Speaker 6: And so what you're doing is you're utilizing the jumps

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Speaker 6: and the forty to assess a player's overall explosiveness.

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Speaker 4: Typically they all line up.

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Speaker 6: It is rare that you have someone who runs a

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Speaker 6: fast forty and doesn't have a great vertical jump. If

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Speaker 6: they do, then you're trying to figure out what's wrong

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Speaker 6: with them from a structural standpoint. Why can they only

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Speaker 6: generate the explosiveness in a straight line, but they can't

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Speaker 6: make that speed turn into power when it comes to

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Speaker 6: vertical jumping or broad jumping in those things. So it's

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Speaker 6: a sign and that's why they're all done together, because

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Speaker 6: most explosive athletes crush it in those three tests.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bench press two hundred and twenty five pounds. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking like Fernando Mendoza, he's probably gonna be the

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Speaker 2: number one pick the quarterback out of Indiana. What if

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Speaker 2: he can't bench press to twenty five he'll stupid number

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Speaker 2: one pick right, I mean to twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty big number, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty big number.

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Speaker 6: But like most positions, aren't really expected to do it, right,

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks are never expected to do two twenty five. Your

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Speaker 6: skill guys, your wide receivers, and some of your defensive backs.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's minimally impacting their score. That's it.

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Speaker 6: Though, given that they're college players, they should be able

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Speaker 6: to sustain themselves for a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit on the bench press.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't mean that you have to do to twenty five, ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 6: twenty times. But if you've been working out every off

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Speaker 6: season as your school, there should be a baseline of

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Speaker 6: strength and strength endurance that look, the test will assess

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Speaker 6: and give you a clear indicator on whether this dude

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Speaker 6: gets aftered in the weight.

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Speaker 4: Room or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you this. To this combine I go

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Speaker 2: to will be my first as far as participation. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so let me run this by. You tell me if

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Speaker 2: I'm way off base or not. The bench press to

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Speaker 2: me might be the least important drill of them all.

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Speaker 2: Obviously upper body strength, but I think that's pretty important

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Speaker 2: now for offensive and defensive lineman and maybe cornerbacks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so are you with me on that?

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Speaker 2: Am I okay?

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Speaker 4: On that? I mean you're okay.

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Speaker 6: It's not the most functional thing, but yeah, it's just

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Speaker 6: an assessment of where you are.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The broad jump, I mean you taught me into it.

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Speaker 2: Probably a good measure of lower body, not of strength,

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Speaker 2: but maybe explosiveness, right, I mean offensive and defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps, all right, I get that.

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Speaker 4: I mean some of that. Yeah, Like I can give

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Speaker 4: you that.

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Speaker 2: And they got that twenty yard shuttle drill. What's that

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Speaker 2: all about? I guess reaction time, change, the.

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Speaker 4: Direction, quickness balanced by the control burst. That's what you're

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Speaker 4: looking for.

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Speaker 6: The sixty yard shuttle five back, ten back, fifteen back,

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Speaker 6: that's more of an endurance stamina thing. The short is

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Speaker 6: about quickness, change, the direction, explosiveness.

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Speaker 2: Now, I would think that these players you went to

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Speaker 2: the combine as a player, correct, yes, okay? How much

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Speaker 2: practice time did you do before you got to the

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Speaker 2: combine or were you blind sided?

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Speaker 3: You just did these events for the first time.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was blindsided because back then in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 6: there wasn't TV coverage and there was a lot of

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Speaker 6: mystery behind, what you were about, what you were expected

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Speaker 6: to do, what you were getting yourself into when you

581
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Speaker 6: came to the combine. Well, now everyone knows what's going on.

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Speaker 6: You've seen it, you've seen it on TV. The boutique

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Speaker 6: training facilities have prepared you for these things. So some

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Speaker 6: of these numbers, we will say are manufactured their training specific.

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Speaker 6: It's not a true assessment of the kids' ability. But

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Speaker 6: you waded good with the bad when it comes to

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Speaker 6: having guy's tests.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yesterday I read that there was a big to

589
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Speaker 2: do about Tailing Green, the quarterback of out of Arkansas,

590
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Speaker 2: record breaking a vertical like a forty three point five

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Speaker 2: inch vertical with another eleven foot two inch leap in

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Speaker 2: the broad jump. Okay, that's great, got great numbers if

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Speaker 2: you're qualifying for a gold medal. Maybe, But then again,

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Speaker 2: I read that Anthony Richardson, who was the number four

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Speaker 2: pick of the Indianapolis Colotes back in twenty three, had

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Speaker 2: the previous highs for a quarterback with a forty inch

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Speaker 2: vertical a ten foot nine inch broad jump, and look

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Speaker 2: what the hell he's at. He can't even get to

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Speaker 2: do because snap in the NFL. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: that means anything.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't mean anything directly to them playing,

602
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Speaker 6: but it speaks to their explosion as their athleticism in

603
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Speaker 6: those things. For Taylon Green, he's already devonked bills. He's

604
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Speaker 6: a I'm a quarterback. I'm a quarterback only. But it's

605
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Speaker 6: going to create a conversation. Could he potentially change positions?

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Speaker 6: Could he be a guy that maybe becomes a wide

607
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Speaker 6: receiver down the line and those things.

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Speaker 4: Think about Terrell Pryor and how it worked for him.

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Speaker 6: So there are some things that we're looking at that

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Speaker 6: when someone does that, you're like, h maybe we can

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Speaker 6: try them at another spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because he did one of four thirty

613
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Speaker 2: sixth time in the forty O dish, and NFL media

614
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Speaker 2: asked him if he would work out of other positions

615
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Speaker 2: like a wide receiver, and he said he would decline.

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Speaker 2: I think he's crazy for doing that, don't you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I mean he said that, and that's fine

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Speaker 6: until it comes Yeah, until it's all over and people determine, well,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you can do another thing. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: that's a part of it. It's funny. I'm sitting here

622
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Speaker 4: looking at then knew there was a guy.

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Speaker 6: Felipe Franks, who was an undrafted free agent quarterback from Arkansas.

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Speaker 6: He started his career as a quarterback and then he

625
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Speaker 6: shifted to tight end the following season, and he's still

626
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Speaker 6: playing in the.

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Speaker 4: League as a tied end. To me, what you're doing

628
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Speaker 4: is you're trying to.

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Speaker 6: Give yourself as many opportunities as you can to play

630
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Speaker 6: in the league, and at some point, Talon Green, if

631
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Speaker 6: it falters at quarterback, someone.

632
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Speaker 4: Will knock on his door and say, hey might want

633
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Speaker 4: to give this.

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Speaker 6: Thing a shot at wide receiver if you're truly committed

635
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Speaker 6: just to playing in the league.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now the next thing, I want to look at

637
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Speaker 2: quarterback measurements, and they make a big deal about this

638
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Speaker 2: hand situation, hand size, I guess, and Luke Olmeyer, I

639
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Speaker 2: guess if Illinois's got the smallest one that I've seen

640
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Speaker 2: on the chart at nine. I think Haynes King Georgia

641
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Speaker 2: had a nine also, right.

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Speaker 4: No thought, I thought, I thought Garrett Netsby had a

643
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Speaker 4: small hand too. They were small hands, I think.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So the reason why hand size matters is because

645
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Speaker 6: if you're playing in inclement conditions, you worry about their

646
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Speaker 6: ability to grip the ball. And so if you have

647
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Speaker 6: someone with a small hand, and then you look at

648
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Speaker 6: their history, they have a bunch of fumbles.

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Speaker 4: You begin to wonder, Okay, okay, think about your kids.

650
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Speaker 6: Right, is your kid when they were little, can they

651
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Speaker 6: hold a sippy cup with one hand or didn't need

652
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Speaker 6: two hands?

653
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Speaker 4: And so if you have small hands, yeah, if you.

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Speaker 6: Have small hands, your two hand sippy cup guy, Well,

655
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Speaker 6: you can't throw the ball with two hands.

656
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Speaker 4: You need to be able to throw it with one.

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Speaker 4: And so if you don't have a big enough hand, it's.

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Speaker 6: Problematic, particularly if you're play in Cincinnati, Cleveland, New England,

659
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Speaker 6: cold weather environments that aren't protected in the dome. You

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Speaker 6: need to have big, strong hands so you can grab

661
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Speaker 6: onto the ball to slick ball.

662
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Speaker 2: All right, I think more important than hand size maybe

663
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Speaker 2: your height. And speaking of height, let's talk about this kid,

664
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Speaker 2: Diego Pavia at a van to those five ten the

665
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: smallest quarterback and what was to talk about him over there?

666
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: Because this kid had an attitude, okay, especially when he

667
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: didn't at the Heisman Trophy and he says, I guess

668
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: he was coulder to say the other day. One thing

669
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: about me is I don't care what people think about me.

670
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Well you're better. You better care what people think about you,

671
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: because bigger to make the decision on your future, So

672
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: you better care about that. Has he turned the corner?

673
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Has he changed his ways a little bit?

674
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 6: He's not changed his ways. He is what he is,

675
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 6: and anyone who takes him knows what they're getting. But

676
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 6: let's be real and frank about Diego Pavia. He's a

677
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: really good college player, but he had limited He was

678
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: going to have a limited run in the National Football League,

679
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 6: just giving his game, given his size, and given his personality.

680
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 6: Maybe his best play is to go to Canada or

681
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 6: one of the alternative leagues to play. But he's really

682
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 6: a player in college, but he just falls short of

683
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: some of the standards that you want for an NFL quarterback.

684
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 6: You factored that in with the attitude and all the

685
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 6: other stuff that comes with him.

686
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: I think a lot of teams are gonna be like, yeah, man,

687
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: we're good, We'll pass.

688
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

689
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Speaker 2: It amazes me. You know, you hadn't heard much about

690
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: him until the Heisman situation. Then he went ballistic. He

691
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: went crazy, and then he says the criticism of him

692
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: is a product of the media generating what he says

693
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: is clickbait. Yeah, you give the media clipbait. You're not

694
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: You're not the clipbait. You're the clickbait for your actions.

695
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: That's what happened, right, That's the situation with him. He

696
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: comreated with bait.

697
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: He did.

698
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 6: And if this gives you any indication what playbook he's

699
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 6: using from. He's being advised loosely by Johnny Manziel. Johnny

700
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: Minzel is counted as one of his mentors. So there's

701
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 6: going to be something to that he hasn't seen or

702
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: recognized how that can impact him, particularly when you threw

703
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 6: up his own transgressions or his own I was a

704
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 6: personality character. Yeah, it's not It's not a great look

705
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: for Diego Povery. He can't bully his way into the league.

706
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 6: There's going to be some conforming that needs day be

707
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: happened if he wants to play for a long time.

708
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: There's no that bad look. After the Heisman balloting, he

709
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: went on social media and he says, if all the

710
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: voters on social media, I mean, you're an NFL guy,

711
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't care how good you are, how successful you

712
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: were in college. You put something on that vein on

713
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: social media. You can scratch your head as a personnel

714
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: guy in the National Football League, Do I want this guy?

715
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: This guy could be a lightning rod, it could be

716
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: a problem. Really, I think he heard himself big time.

717
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: That's more important than his skill set really to me,

718
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: it is anyway, Yes.

719
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Speaker 6: How you fit in with the locker room, how you

720
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: fit in with the coaching staff. And he over open,

721
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Speaker 6: n no doubt about that.

722
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Speaker 2: We move so you believe he's gonna make it in

723
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Speaker 2: the NFL. Will he get drafted?

724
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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't. I don't. I don't

725
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: think he's gonna get drafted. No, I don't think. I

726
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: don't think it's gonna happen for him.

727
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: All right, we move on. All right, He's Bucky Brooks

728
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: on Maindy Firm. We have Fox Sports Sunday of Fox

729
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Butts Radio for a live from the Fox BET's radio studios.

730
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, he's back. He is back with

731
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: all the answers for you. What Bucky is next?

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

733
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: It's Bucky coming right up. It's about thirteen minutes before

734
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy

735
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: fermanably live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

736
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: So asked Bucky, it's here and so is Shay Shay.

737
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: So Shay Shay take it away, ask Bucky.

738
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: Welcome in to ask Bucky. Guys the time when you

739
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: get to hear from a real man unlike me and Andy.

740
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: Is that right, Bucky?

741
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: H Yes, Let's do it. Let's do it.

742
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 5: I thought Buggy was gonna be nice to us, and

743
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, no, no, let's do it. Let's go

744
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: right into it. You guys are nothing, but no, let's

745
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 5: get right into It's gonna be back, gonna hear guys's voice. First,

746
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: let's talk about Sorry, I gotta pull this up. How

747
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 5: valuable really is the NFL combine?

748
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: Bucky?

749
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 6: Uh, this reminds value more so just from the testing,

750
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 6: the medical testing, Uh, the interview process.

751
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: It is the first time guys get to meet with

752
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: every prospect.

753
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: And then there is some value to watching the guys

754
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: go through all the athletic drills and the agility things

755
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 6: that you see. But it doesn't override what you saw

756
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 6: on tape. But now there's some value to these workouts

757
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 6: in these interviews.

758
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 5: Sweet on to the next.

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00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: What event, go ahead?

760
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 5: What event is most important for the elevators or evaluators.

761
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh, I was like the elevators.

762
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 6: I would say the thing that everyone looks for, it's easy,

763
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 6: is like look the forty yard dash, just because that

764
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: straight lined run of forty yards gives you a feel

765
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 6: for the explosiveness, to speed, the quickness, and even though

766
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 6: the game isn't done in forty yard increments, it is

767
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 6: about the explosiveess that you see in certain positions while

768
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: they're executing that drill.

769
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: So here's my question.

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Speaker 9: During your seasons, Bucky, how is your relationship with the referees.

771
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 9: Were you on a first name basis throughout your seasons

772
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 9: and did you ever have beef or problems with the referees.

773
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: First name basis sometimes?

774
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 6: I mean, I think we're so used to being able

775
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 6: to call them mister rep that you kind of talk

776
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 6: to them like that. I think as you get older,

777
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 6: maybe you call them by their first name.

778
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes you have certain issues with certain officials, like.

779
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 6: For whatever reason, they see the game differently than you

780
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: see the game, and sometimes you can be caught in

781
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: their crossairs. So you got to pick and choose how

782
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 6: you go at those people. You can't go too hard,

783
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 6: because then you'll never get a call. So you try

784
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 6: to appeal to them in some way, because no one

785
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 6: wants to be the victim of a bunch of bad calls.

786
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: Does the league have.

787
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 9: Skilled training for referees so they can deal with all

788
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 9: the stuff that they have to deal with with, you know,

789
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 9: making a call and then everybody hates them for the

790
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 9: whole week.

791
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, they do all kinds of things to

792
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: prepare them for. But if you can be a referee,

793
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 6: you have to have thick skin, just like a player,

794
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 6: because everyone has an opinion. Everyone thinks they can do

795
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 6: your job better than you're doing it. Yeah, so you

796
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 6: can't be one that is shaky when it comes to

797
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: confidence and self belief.

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00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: You know, let me let me jump in here for

799
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: a second, because you took about if you get a

800
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: referee on the first name basis, and this sounds a

801
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: little corny, a little stupid, but when you get drafted

802
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: out of college and you've always called your college coach coach,

803
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: you don't call him by his first name. You call

804
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: a coach in the NFL, but his first name or coach.

805
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: M H called coach, what do you do you call

806
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: him coach always called him coach.

807
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just curious about that even though they're Like

808
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: last year in Indianapolis, their quarterback was older than the coach, right,

809
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: he was Philip Rivers.

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, that's I mean, that's not that's

811
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: not great, that's not ideal. But it plays like that.

812
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 5: Sometimes we're talking about shake go ahead, we're talking about coaches.

813
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: I want your thoughts on the NBA coaches dress code.

814
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: Bucky, Uh, I'm okay with it.

815
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 6: Like I know pat Riley would like him to be

816
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 6: suited and booted, but I'm okay with the quarter zip

817
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 6: and all that other stuff.

818
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: It's basketball.

819
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 6: I always thought it was hard to coach basketball when

820
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 6: you got hord soul shoes on, I mean the floor slick.

821
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 6: I would be scared to fall down if I got

822
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 6: on my dress you know, my dress shoes on that hardwood.

823
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 5: Okay, let's let's switch gears one more time. Why is

824
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: baseball spring training so long and the NFL preseason is

825
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 5: only four games?

826
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: I mean baseball takes a little longer to get ready,

827
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: I guess. I mean it's not because of a fitness thing.

828
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 6: I think maybe it just takes a minute for them

829
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 6: to kind of get into the rhythm, get into the

830
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: swing of things when it comes to trying to figure

831
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: out what nine do we want to put out there.

832
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: To back back off of that, Bucky, were you the

833
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: type of person that enjoyed preseason or were you the

834
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: type of person that just kind of wanted to go

835
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 5: straight into it when you were in the league.

836
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 6: When I was in league, I was fighting for a job,

837
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 6: So there was no enjoying. It was a lot of

838
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 6: pressure and stress. But no, Look, I think it's a

839
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: necessary evil. You need to prepare your body and prepare

840
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: in your minds for the regular season. And although I

841
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 6: think you can just jump right into it, so there

842
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 6: needs to be a little bit of an acclimation point

843
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: before you start, before you start playing.

844
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 5: And I'm kind of sorry, sorry, it just I want

845
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: to harp on kind of what he went said real quick.

846
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 5: You said something you were fighting for a job, obviously.

847
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: There's two different tones. There's the people that know that

848
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: they have a job, and then there's the people that

849
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: they're fighting for their job obviously, and that's the majority

850
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 5: of the people on an NFL squad. Can you see

851
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: that tone and kind of tell who's fighting and who

852
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: really doesn't care during preseason or is it something that

853
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 5: everyone's kind of just like, we're really working hard.

854
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: I mean everyone's working hard, but they're working at a

855
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: different race. Right.

856
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 6: If you're a star player, you're working to kind of

857
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: get yourself ready for the nuances of the game. If

858
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 6: you're a guy fighting for a job, you're doing any

859
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 6: and everything just to show your value to the team.

860
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: So you're operating a different race. But everyone is going

861
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: after it. There are people that are just meling it

862
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 6: in thinking that they have it because no one no

863
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 6: one is assured that, oh I got it, I can

864
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: just chill now.

865
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: That doesn't operate, That doesn't fly. Well.

866
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: I got one quickie, one last quick question. What was

867
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Speaker 2: the toughest What is the toughest combine event.

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00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: The toughest comme on event.

869
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 6: I would say the shuttles at the end, So either

870
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: the al drill three cone, twenty yard shuttles sixty years

871
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 6: show because you've emptied the bucket with the forty and

872
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 6: the positional drills, you're gassed by the time you get there.

873
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: Those are the toughest because you don't have anything left.

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00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, all right, I appreciate that because you're right there

875
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Speaker 2: at the combine. All right, he's Bucky Brooks. I may

876
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: defirming the rules are changing. We'll explain that and so

877
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Speaker 2: my friend and partner, the one and only Bucky Brooks. Buck.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Manham? Great? And I can't complain. Life

895
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Speaker 4: is good up at the combine, Life.

896
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Is real good. For Saint Mary, did you hear the

897
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: top of the hour Sports with Steve the Sager. Saint

898
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: Mary's beat ninth rank Gonzaga, and Herb Sendeck coaches Saint

899
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: Mary's who formerly previously coached Miami Universe.

900
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't pull in Miami.

901
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: Of Ohio now because everybody knows where they're at, because

902
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: they're undefeated. They're the only undefeated team in Division one

903
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: college basketball. Herb send That used to coach there, he's

904
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: now coaching Saint Mary's. They beat ninth rank Gonzaga, and

905
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get there something. Number one. This Miami University

906
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: undefeated thing at twenty nine and oero right now, it's

907
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: got to put a lot of pressure on other coaches

908
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: around the country saying how could they do it? Probably

909
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: would call you a shoe string budget and we can't

910
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: win Number One. Thing I worry about. We'll get into

911
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: this maybe heavily later, Like I worry about these kids

912
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: on that ball club would be picked up in the

913
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: portal and get some big checks from other schools after

914
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: this season.

915
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean that's gonna happen. You can't worry about

916
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 6: that now. Though you only can control your part of it.

917
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 6: You're the part that you have is, Hey, we got

918
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: a chance to.

919
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: Make a run. Let's make a run.

920
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 6: Right now, we can do this thing, and so let's

921
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: go and so it's Operation Go time for the RedHawks,

922
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 6: I think as their effects no.

923
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, while.

924
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 6: They SERVEYAC and crew. Yeah, they have to figure out

925
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 6: a way to get it done. I think the tricky

926
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: thing for them to navigate the pressure of the streak

927
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 6: because the longer they stay undefeated, as they move into

928
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Speaker 6: the tournament, conference tournament, in the NCLE tournament, that's all

929
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 6: people are going to talk about. And anyone who has

930
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: been around or paid attention to March madness knows all

931
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: it takes is one bad game.

932
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Speaker 4: You're trying to play like three minute tournaments. You know,

933
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 4: you're trying to play the first weekend, win that tournament,

934
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Speaker 4: get to the next weekend. How do they handle that

935
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 4: pressure when they match up?

936
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Speaker 6: I mean, let's be honest, against a better schedule with

937
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 6: some better teams as opposed to the teams that they've

938
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Speaker 6: been beating throughout the conference.

939
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Speaker 2: You may be jumping the gun a little bit, you

940
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: say the tournament from one week to another. I mean,

941
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Speaker 2: they got to worry about the Mid American Conference tournament.

942
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: And I think the team that really has a lot

943
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: of pressure taken off of them. Is a University of

944
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: Akron because Acron only has one loss in the Mid

945
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: American Conference where Miami's undefeated and Akron right now is

946
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: just like laying in the woods trying to meet up

947
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Speaker 2: with Miami and the MATT Conference tournament. Now, the question

948
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: I have if Miami loses in that conference tournament, will

949
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 2: the MATT Conference take two teams in the NCAA Tournament

950
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: because of the season record of Miami. The last time

951
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: two teams went to the nc DOUBLEA Tournament out of

952
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: the nac was thirty years ago. I don't know if

953
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: it's going to happen again.

954
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, Miami's probably a lock to be in

955
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 6: just based on what their record is. It's unlikely that

956
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 6: they would take a one loss or a two loss

957
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 6: team and keep them on the outskirts.

958
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 4: That's it, depending on who wins it.

959
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: You know, you talked about accurate being deserving based on

960
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: their one conference loss. Well, what if a lower seed

961
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 6: wins it? You know, somebody that hadn't counted on. That

962
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 6: can change the dynamic. And what it does it squeezes

963
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: the teams that are in the bubble. The playoffs. So

964
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 6: if you're feeling good because you're one of the last

965
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 6: ones out, you're like, oh man, someone's gonna lose.

966
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: That's going to create a thing.

967
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 6: Well, if it's an unexpected or huge upset loss, that's

968
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 6: when it really that's when it really messes up everything.

969
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Well, the question, and here's the main question for the

970
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: NT double A Basketball and Martchmanness Tournament. Do you take

971
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: the sixty four best teams in the country or do

972
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: you take conference champions difference? I mean, is Miami, honestly,

973
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: are they one of the sixty four best teams in

974
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: the country. They're undefeated, obviously, but I don't know if

975
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: you'd say that one of the sixty four best.

976
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think you can say they were

977
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Speaker 4: won the sixty four best.

978
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 6: I mean, they're hard press to find sixty three teams

979
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 6: better than the team that has been undefeated.

980
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 4: Regardless of the schedule.

981
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 6: It's just about where you see them, where you slot them,

982
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 6: And a lot of that has to do with looking

983
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 6: at their the metrics, who they played, who.

984
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: They earned their wins on, and then a little bit

985
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: of some of the our ball tests when they have

986
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 4: played some of those teams, what do they look like

987
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: all that be counted in? Interesting?

988
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, speaking with basketball. Let's stick with this for

989
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: a second, because I know we touched on this when

990
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: I asked Bucky a little bit in the last hour.

991
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: But Pat Rally was on it the other day and

992
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: they gave him a statue outside of a crypto arena

993
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: and it was like an eight foot stall, five hundred

994
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: and ten pound bronze sculpture of Pat Rody. Good for him, Okay,

995
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: but he commented, he said, I wish the coaches went

996
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: back to coton ties all right with the NBA coaches

997
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: dress coach, I think that dress code.

998
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: Changed during COVID.

999
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: And why did it change during COVID Because those games

1000
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: were played in Orlando and maybe it was too hot

1001
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: to wear shirts and ties and suits. But he says,

1002
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: he says that the audience wants to see somebody on

1003
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: the sidelines who looks like a leader and dresses like

1004
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: a leader and acts like a leader. Does a suit

1005
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: do that? Do you like to see that? Does it

1006
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: make it? I don't think fans will go to a

1007
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: game really have an eye to see what the coach

1008
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: is even wearing. Now, if a coach is dressed to

1009
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: the Nines like Pat Rowley did, or maybe like Jay

1010
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Wright did at Villanova when he coached. Then you notice them.

1011
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: But other than that, they're just part of the backdrop.

1012
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: They just fall into everything else. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

1013
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 6: Does it make a difference, Look mean, I would say

1014
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: it doesn't make a difference. I understand like want to

1015
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 6: be representative of the university or in college or the organization.

1016
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 6: But to me, I would think it about being comfortable,

1017
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 6: and I believe there's a way to have comfort and

1018
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: professionalism at the same time.

1019
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: We talk about their business casual approach.

1020
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 6: Where you see er exposed to dress up in slacks

1021
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 6: and you have a quarter zip and you don't have

1022
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 6: a sneakers, or he may have some different shoes, Like

1023
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that, Like it's a basketball game, so

1024
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: I don't put more on it than I need to.

1025
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 6: But it's very similar to football when Tom Landry would

1026
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 6: dress up and wear his thing and everybody else was

1027
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 6: not operating at that level with a sport coat or whatever.

1028
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: But some guys want to feel you know, I want

1029
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: to say important, but they want to put on their

1030
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 6: best stuff. It makes them feel better and also makes

1031
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 6: them feel like they represent the organization to the tea.

1032
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: I remember, and they're going to forget about the NBA.

1033
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: I think this casualness on the sidelines started, and maybe

1034
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken in college when the late Luke Conseco started

1035
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: wearing sweaters to coach the games at Saint John's.

1036
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: That's when I think it started.

1037
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe, And look, I understand his rash now for

1038
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 6: one to do that, because to me, coaching in a

1039
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 6: sport jacket would be cumbersome. I would much rather if

1040
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 6: I had to be dressed all the way up, much

1041
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 6: rather coach in a sweater than in a four loss

1042
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 6: wort Cup.

1043
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 4: I don't think I could keep it all together.

1044
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: I'll go one step further. I'm not here to lecture,

1045
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: believe me, that's the list thing I want to do.

1046
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: But I think that dress code makes a difference, not

1047
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: in the NBA and not with coaches. Let them be comfortable,

1048
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: and that's fine. They probably do their job a lot better,

1049
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, wearing those quarter zips. They really do it

1050
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: because half the coaches, when they go crazy, throw up

1051
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: their sport jacket.

1052
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: Anyway, we've seen that during games.

1053
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: But I've talked about in school when I was in

1054
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: school up through ninth grade, I had to wear tie.

1055
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: I wear a college shirt and the tie in high

1056
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: school you had to wear my high school anyway, I

1057
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: had to wear a college shirt, but I didn't have

1058
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: to wear a tie, all right. I think it makes

1059
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: a difference when I see teachers now in high school,

1060
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: even in elementary school, male teachers wearing jeans and maybe sweatshirts.

1061
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: I think that sets the wrong image. Maybe I'm wrong,

1062
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too old fashioned. I don't know. I just

1063
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: think that the education process has loosened. I think it's

1064
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: lousive because a dress code. Maybe I'm wrong. I just

1065
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: I just think that's the problem. I really don't. I

1066
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: don't like seeing kids going to school wearn't T shirts,

1067
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: and the T shirts that they wear, some of them

1068
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: are x rated. I don't think they should be wearing

1069
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: the school That's my take. I'll move on. That's all

1070
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: my lecture for today.

1071
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: What do you think?

1072
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: Look, I think if you're if you want a dress

1073
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 6: code and you want to do that, you just have

1074
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: to make sure that you have something h some kind

1075
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 6: of system in place to make sure that you can

1076
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 6: clothe those who don't have the means to necessarily pay

1077
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 6: for the dress code, whether it's the khakis or the

1078
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 6: college shirts or those things. Now I've coached at the

1079
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 6: Catholic school where we had dress codes. I now coach

1080
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 6: at a public school where they don't have a dress

1081
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 6: code per se in that and.

1082
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: There's a difference.

1083
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: It's there are difference as far as behavior a little

1084
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: bit more well, I mean strict than the Catholic school.

1085
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: I mean a little bit.

1086
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 6: But you're also pulling from a different kid, I mean

1087
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: a different pool of society, like a different kids going

1088
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 6: to private school sometimes in public schools and those things.

1089
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 6: And so I can't say that because you put on

1090
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 6: a college shirt and khakis and whatever, that you're going

1091
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 6: to be more behave. But there is a look, if

1092
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 6: you talk about from a professional standpoint, when I step

1093
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 6: onto that campus and everyone is in uniform versus a

1094
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 6: public school. But it does make one better than the other.

1095
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 6: I think the discipline is in the curriculum and how

1096
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 6: people operate, but the look is more appealing to the

1097
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 6: eye when everyone is in uniform as opposed to everyone

1098
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 6: wearing their own thing.

1099
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: Well, I think that learning is more apt to happen

1100
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: with the dress. I think the dress code is correspondent

1101
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: to learning. You were apt to maybe absorb more and

1102
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: learn in a better pace as far as dress if

1103
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: you were torn jeans and a T shirt than wearing

1104
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: a college shirt. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm way up

1105
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: fast time. I meanies, I don't know.

1106
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there may be something to that.

1107
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 6: But if you're going to do that and say that

1108
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 6: he everyone needs to operate in a dress code environment,

1109
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 6: then you have to have a system in place to

1110
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 6: provide that those who lack the means to maybe go

1111
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 6: out and afford what the dress code is, the khakis

1112
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 6: and the polos and those things. And so if you're

1113
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 6: going to make it above board where everyone is able

1114
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 6: to have access to those things, fine, But if you

1115
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: don't have that, then you become a school that is one.

1116
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: Of halves and have nots. And that's not necessarily fair either.

1117
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: No, you're right about that. Now, I'll tell you why

1118
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: you talk about money? Can money change things?

1119
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: Now?

1120
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: The owner of the Phoenix Suns, Matt Ishbia, says that

1121
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna go a million dollars to get players to

1122
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: come to the NBA All Star events. Okay, to participate.

1123
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's going to make a difference.

1124
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: I really don't.

1125
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: Now.

1126
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: As far as the three point contest, they've had a

1127
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: lot of guys come back the year and again. Klay

1128
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: Thompson has been there, Carl Anthony Towns, Damian Lillard won

1129
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: this year for the third time. So Devin Booker, he's

1130
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: been there, Jamal Murray, Tyrese Maxey. These guys have been

1131
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: there to the three point but they're dunk contest. They

1132
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: can't get guys to come. And I don't think they're

1133
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: gonna get a million dollars to get it to come

1134
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: there either. I don't know what it is.

1135
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: I think they need to change that whole situation.

1136
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: They really do. I mean, I love the NBA. It

1137
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: hurts me dearly to see what's happened to that league.

1138
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: I think the betting has hurt. I also think the

1139
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: fact that the tanking situation has gone out of control,

1140
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I think it all comes from

1141
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: the top. Get they need stronger leadership. I don't think

1142
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: any of this would have happened with David Stern as

1143
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: the commissioner. But you know, Adam Silver is a different

1144
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: kind of guy, and maybe he's just friendlier with the

1145
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: he wants to be buddies with the play.

1146
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: I could see that he wants to be liked by everybody.

1147
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: You can't.

1148
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: You gotta be strict, and David Stern was strict. I

1149
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: just I just don't think it would have happened under

1150
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: the leadership of David Stern.

1151
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, but like I so, I

1152
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: hear something that I would say, here's what's troubling about

1153
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 4: some of it. So we talked about the league going down,

1154
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: and we'll address the situation a few different areas. One,

1155
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: access to the NBA is completely different from the nostalgic

1156
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 4: years that we hold dearly to the seventies and eighties.

1157
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 4: And the seventies and eighties, we didn't see our teams

1158
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: every week. We didn't see our star players, so the

1159
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: only time that we saw them was All Star Weekend. Collectively,

1160
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 4: the dunk contest was appealing because the stars participated in it, and.

1161
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 6: It was still kind of a novelty to us to

1162
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 6: see it. Well, now over twenty thirty forty years, everyone

1163
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: is doing the same dunk. Everyone has seen that, so

1164
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 6: it's hard to continue the top that that's just something

1165
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 6: that's going to be impossible to do. How many different

1166
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 6: ways can you dunk? Of basketball? Like what new trick

1167
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 6: can you do when it comes to dunk and of basketball,

1168
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 6: the three point shootout, some of the skills challenge those

1169
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: things are saying because there's still a randomness to it,

1170
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 6: there's still some skill that's applied to it or whatever. Now,

1171
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 6: as it relates to the league itself and Adam Silver

1172
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: his relationship with the players, it always is funny to

1173
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: me how fans typically align themselves with the league and

1174
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 6: ownership the billionaires as opposed to the millionaires.

1175
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 4: And what this is is a partnership.

1176
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 6: That's why there's a collective bargaining agreement between players in

1177
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 6: the league to make sure that everyone is treated fairly.

1178
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 6: And some of those things that have been bargained are

1179
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 6: more freedoms for the players when it comes to whatever

1180
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 6: it is, and we have to understand that it's a

1181
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 6: partnership and not look at it.

1182
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 4: In a situation where one side is higher than the other.

1183
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 6: They're equal partners, and so it has to be something

1184
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: collectively that they come to an agreement on to see

1185
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 6: how they can change the All Star Game, the length

1186
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 6: of the season.

1187
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: And all of that.

1188
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 6: But the reason why some of these changes will never

1189
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 6: be in place is because owners don't want to give

1190
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 6: up money. And because they don't want to give up money,

1191
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 6: that's why we have an eighty two game season and

1192
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 6: all this other stuff, because they don't want to lose money.

1193
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 6: If you take away seventeen games and cut it down

1194
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 6: to sixty.

1195
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Five, that'll little happened. As far as the public's turning

1196
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: on various players, because next year is a very good

1197
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: chance there's gonna be a striker major League Baseball. And

1198
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: believe me, when there's a strike, you know it's going

1199
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: to happen. It's going to be put on the players,

1200
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: not the owners, and the owners will make sure that happens,

1201
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: and the media will do that as well. You know

1202
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: that it's going to be the player's fault, not the

1203
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: owner's fall. And the public's gonna say, oh, they're crying,

1204
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: how much more money can they get? How much more

1205
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: money do they want? But you know it's all going

1206
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: to be the owners. It's their fault. It's going to

1207
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: be their stubbornness. But as far as the image is

1208
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: going to be put on the backs of the players, yeah, because.

1209
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: There's a perception like.

1210
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 6: A few different things, like you're getting paid millions for

1211
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 6: playing a kid's game, and so there's a perception for

1212
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 6: the regular public, for civilians. If I was in that position,

1213
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 6: I wouldn't come playing about anything because look at how

1214
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 6: fortunate I am to be playing a game.

1215
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: And getting money. That's it.

1216
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 6: It's a billion dollar business, and you treat business as such.

1217
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 6: That never gets into it. So the outrage always goes

1218
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 6: to the players, never the owners. And it has always

1219
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 6: been like that for some weird reason, and it will

1220
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 6: continue to be like that, where everyone aligns themselves with

1221
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 6: the billionaire, not the millionaire, even though the millionaire is

1222
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 6: more closer to their station in life.

1223
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: Well and also the players, to be quite honest, the

1224
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: players are a lot more visible than the owners. I mean,

1225
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't think the average Joe on the streak can

1226
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 2: nain five owners in football or baseball, The just can't.

1227
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody owners are very outspoken. You got the

1228
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones of the world. You have the late George Steinbern.

1229
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: Everybody kN who he was. Other than that, you don't

1230
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 2: know many owners and sports, and especially in the NBA,

1231
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: you don't know the owners at all. I don't think

1232
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: I don't think these guys know who the owners are,

1233
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: and maybe you shouldn't. Owners should be seen and not heard.

1234
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: I think yeah, I mean I believe in that, like

1235
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: they should be seem not heard.

1236
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 6: But here's the issue that you have when it comes

1237
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 6: to it, like owners love to make money, but love

1238
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 6: to put off the expenses on everybody else. So people

1239
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 6: are talking about Chicago and the Bears, and the Bears

1240
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 6: potentially move into Indiana for a new stadium because the

1241
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 6: owners don't want to pay for a new stadium. They

1242
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 6: want taxpayers to pay for a thing that they don't

1243
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 6: get any money from, and.

1244
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: That is I'm an owner of the business. If I'm

1245
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: an owner of the Chicago business, I do want the

1246
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: taxpase to pay for it. I'll tell you why, because

1247
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: the taxpayers are pay for it in most every other city.

1248
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: So why should I be the only schmuck that has

1249
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: to pay for a stadium?

1250
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 7: Right?

1251
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: Think about it? I mean, if everybody had to pay

1252
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: for it by tax payers, why shouldn't I.

1253
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 6: You don't have to own the team if you don't

1254
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 6: want to pay for it. There's no thing that says

1255
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 6: you have to own the team. You don't want to

1256
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 6: pay for the stadium, sell the team, there's somebody else

1257
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 6: pay for it. But taxpayers shouldn't pay for stadiums where

1258
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 6: the money doesn't.

1259
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: Go to them. Like billionaires get.

1260
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 6: People to pay for everything, but they get to keep

1261
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 6: all the profits. That's not that's not fair. Like that's

1262
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 6: not fair.

1263
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: It's just smart enough to sell it to the public saying, oh,

1264
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: if you don't pay for my stadium and you're not

1265
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: taxed for it, we're going to pack up and move.

1266
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: And people from frightened by it. They're afraid. And it

1267
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: happened in Cincinnati. And I'll tell you what they did

1268
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: years ago when they built that new stadium. Now it's

1269
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: paid course stadium in Cincinnati. Uh, they were smart enough

1270
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: to Bengals. Well, Mike Brown got the madi of the

1271
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: old time Cincinnati Bengals to come to town and tell

1272
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: the public to vote for the for the levee to

1273
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: get a new stadium. He had Chris Collinsworth there and boomersiasin,

1274
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: you name him. They were in town, Pat mcinally, they

1275
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: were all here to tell the public to vote for

1276
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: the for the bill to get a new stadium. And

1277
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: they did because they said that they may move they're

1278
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: not going to move, and they who are gonna move,

1279
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: they're from here. But that's what he did, and the

1280
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: public said, look, you know, we want a team here.

1281
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: And obviously there's a lot. There's a big difference between

1282
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: the city that has a major league team and a

1283
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: sport and it doesn't have a major league team. It

1284
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: just there's a difference between Louisville, Kentucky and Cincinnati, Ohio.

1285
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: Louisville does not have major league sports, Cincinnati does. It's

1286
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: a big difference. There's a big difference. But they keep

1287
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: lining in the pockets of those guys. And so that's

1288
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. It's gonna happen in baseball.

1289
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 6: You're gonna see another stoppage soon in basketball and all

1290
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 6: those other things.

1291
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: And it's gonna put the players against owners.

1292
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 6: Everyone's gonna hate the players and talk about them being

1293
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 6: greedy as opposed to the ownership. YadA, YadA, YadA, And

1294
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: that's the play, and that's what we're gonna continue to see.

1295
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: Or whatever.

1296
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 6: I mean, it's no different than in society with like

1297
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 6: corporations baking job cuts even though they're rolling in the profits.

1298
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just what it is greed is ultimately

1299
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 6: the thing that crushes all things. Eventually the golden goose

1300
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 6: will get killed because as greed will play a big

1301
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 6: role in it.

1302
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: Here's the big question, mister bucket Brooks to you, if

1303
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: you own the team, would you pay for a stadium

1304
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Speaker 2: if you could get the public to put it on

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Speaker 2: a tax levee and they pay for your stadium, I would,

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, there's gonna be some taxi basements and

1308
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 6: and breaks that you get anyway, and dependent upon how

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01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 6: I owned the team.

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Speaker 4: So because all owners aren't created equal.

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Speaker 6: For instance, in your city and Cincinnati, the Browns owned

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Speaker 6: the team and they became millionaires, billionaires because the valuation

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Speaker 6: of the team, not because of a different industry that

1314
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 6: they made a bunch of money in.

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Speaker 4: And then, oh, by the way, this would be a

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Speaker 4: nice hobbey.

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: The Browns their business family.

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Speaker 6: And that also explains why they operated it very we'll

1319
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Speaker 6: call it frugal way, because their money is from the team,

1320
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: whereas the Haslims made their money friendly and so they're liquid.

1321
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 6: They have cash on demand. You need something, they can

1322
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 6: pay for it, they can drop it down or whatever.

1323
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 6: And so that is the difference in when you have

1324
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 6: these ownership groups trying to operate with the same mindset,

1325
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 6: everyone doesn't have the means to be able to do it,

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 6: and that prevents them from being able to fund their

1327
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 6: own stadiums.

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Speaker 4: They have to lean into the community more and do

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: those things.

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Speaker 6: But I will say this, if those ownership groups are

1331
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Speaker 6: like that, then man, they need to give back a

1332
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 6: lot to the fans. They need to be a fan

1333
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 6: friendly experience, a fan friendly team, all their actions because

1334
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 6: they need the community to fund them and sustain them.

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Speaker 4: If not, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Hear what you're saying, all right, He's Bucky Brooks and

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: Andy Freman. We're broadcasting Life in the Fox withst Readio Studios.

1338
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: You can get Bucky at Bucky Brooks at Andy Freman FSR,

1339
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 2: or your phone calls. Always welcome here at eight seven

1340
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Speaker 2: to seven ninety nine on Fox, which is eight seven,

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. We got

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Ya Youna coming up in this hour and the blame

1343
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: game in hour number three.

1344
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Speaker 3: But how do you fix this mess? That's next.

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Speaker 2: All right, why is this good for college sports? Well,

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01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: that's coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks. He's good for

1351
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: college sports. Andy Furmer. We are live from the Fox

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01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

1353
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. We got the Ana coming up in about

1354
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: ten twelve minutes from now, so let's get it to this.

1355
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: I want to talk about some of these rule changes

1356
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: are happening in football and they may move over to

1357
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: the NFL as well. Before we get started, your take

1358
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: on the toush push. A lot of controversy on the

1359
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: tooshbush this past year with the Philadelphia Eagles. I think

1360
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: the controversy was because teams couldn't stop it. That's why

1361
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: get a big fat offensive lineman three hundred plus pounds

1362
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: and you got a touch push. That's what you gotta do.

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I thought there was some creativity

1364
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: with a touch push. It shouldn't be.

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 6: Banned, shouldn't be outlawed, like it's one of those things

1366
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 6: where the Philaphie Eagles found the cheet code and they

1367
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 6: exploited it.

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: They found a way to do it better. Than anybody else.

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01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 6: But we've seen some teams get better at it, not

1370
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 6: necessarily in defendite it, but we saw teams come up

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01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 6: with their own variation of being able to convert these

1372
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 6: fourth and shorts a third and short yard situations. I

1373
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 6: don't find anything wrong with it. I know people don't

1374
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: like the look of it, but dude, you got to do.

1375
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 6: If anything, fans should like it because it has increased

1376
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 6: to scoring because we've seen more conversions on these short

1377
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 6: yard of situations, more people in bolden to go for

1378
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 6: it that eventually leads to more points in the end.

1379
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Well, you're exactly right, because the NFL realizes that fans

1380
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: want to see more scoring. And I think that the

1381
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, although it was an exciting game, it was

1382
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: somewhat dull because it was a defensive battle and there

1383
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: weren't a lot of points. So next month, the Birmingham

1384
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: Stallions and the Louisville Kings will start the United Football

1385
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: League and there's going to be some new rules. Field

1386
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: goals longer than sixty are will be four points. And

1387
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: I think that's great, I really do. And if the

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01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: NFL looks at that, and they're going to observe it.

1389
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure they may take that into consideration and move

1390
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: it to the NFL. Why shouldn't it be four points?

1391
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: Why should a field goal of twenty two yards be

1392
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: three points in a field goal of sixty yards be

1393
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: three points?

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01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 6: I mean that would be a great thing that would

1396
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 6: encourage more kicks in those things. You have to be

1397
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 6: risky on it, but those points matter, and we are

1398
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 6: seeing the proficiency proficiency of kickers operate at a high

1399
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 6: level when they're attending things fifty to fifty nine yards.

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01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 6: We've seen more long distance kicks going through the uprights

1401
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 6: than we ever have and the lake strift is different.

1402
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 6: So pushing it back to sixty and a bonus point

1403
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 6: on top of that, that will ask some excitement to

1404
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 6: the end.

1405
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: I love because suddenly, now with a team that's losing

1406
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: by three points in the final minute, can really win

1407
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: the game on a single drive without getting it to

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: the end zone.

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01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 4: I love it.

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01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: That's great.

1411
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful.

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01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so like, bring more to that?

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: That is a like two.

1414
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they create some odd ball scores, but bring on

1415
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 4: the points.

1416
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. And people gonna say, well, why

1417
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: would they do that? I'll tell you why. Because in

1418
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: the NFL last year there was a record I record

1419
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: now twelve made field goals of sixty plus yards, more

1420
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: than every season combined until twenty twelve. I mean, could

1421
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: you put your finger on why that is? I mean,

1422
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: you're close to the NFL, you work for a team.

1423
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: Why are there such distance increases in field goals in

1424
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: the National Football League? Are the kickers stronger better or

1425
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: it's something they're doing with the ball, because I've read

1426
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: in the past that there is kind of something they're

1427
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: doing with the ball.

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 6: I would say this, kickers are stronger and more skilled

1429
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 6: because more people are dedicated to doing it.

1430
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 4: As you get more of the.

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Speaker 6: I would say soccer players trans moving over to being

1432
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 6: place kickers and punters. You're seeing guys train at a

1433
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 6: higher level. They're bringing an advanced skill set to the position.

1434
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 6: And because we're placing a premium on the law distance kicking,

1435
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 6: because kickers are there lifting like position players in the

1436
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 6: weight room, squatting and power cleaning and those things, you

1437
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 6: have a more explosive lead that leads to more yardage.

1438
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 6: And we're seeing coaches kind of celebrate this by giving

1439
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 6: guys more opportunities to swing at these law distance kicks.

1440
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: Do you remember who gets maybe the credit for being

1441
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: the first soccer style kick? I know, as a kid

1442
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: growing up in New York, I think it was Pete

1443
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: Gogolak of the New York Football Giants who may have

1444
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: been the first soccer style kicker in the National Football League?

1445
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: Am I correct on that?

1446
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: I got to check that out.

1447
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: Maybe.

1448
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 6: I mean, here's the thing, but yeah, we are seeing

1449
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 6: more guys who have an extensive soccer background made the

1450
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 6: conversion over and the kicking balls are different than the

1451
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 6: regular balls, and so however they're preparing the kicking balls,

1452
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 6: the kicking balls are maybe more punter and kick her friendly,

1453
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 6: and that has led to more success on these long

1454
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 6: distance kicks.

1455
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: You think that's gonna happen. I think that the NFL

1456
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: especially gonna go for a full point deal sixty yards

1457
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: and more. And I never understood why they moved back.

1458
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the extra point is still one point, and

1459
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: they moved it back from where it used to be

1460
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: and it's still only one point.

1461
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's fine they didn't move

1462
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 6: that because it was such an automatic, like let's just

1463
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 6: go and go on to the next one. But I

1464
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 6: think there's something to all of that, like being able

1465
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 6: to add points, being able to add to the excitement

1466
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: because we're seeing defenses are taking away the big plays

1467
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 6: in the offensive part of the game. So the increased scoring,

1468
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to add point opportunities in the kicking

1469
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 6: game to get it up the snuff, to keep people

1470
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 6: interested and excited about the way that it's scoring, no

1471
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 6: doubt about that.

1472
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: Now.

1473
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: The next rule that may be change in the NFL,

1474
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: but it's gonna happen in the United League. No punts

1475
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: allowed inside the fifties. So once a UFL team crosses

1476
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: the fifty oddline, it will no longer be allowed to

1477
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: punt on that possession, even if a penalty or loss

1478
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: of yardage sends the offense back into its own territory.

1479
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 2: The only exception is into the final two minutes of

1480
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: each half. Kind of like that as well.

1481
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: I kind of like that.

1482
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 6: So once you across the fifty there are no punts.

1483
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 6: You gotta stick with it. You got to do your thing.

1484
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 6: That's what we're doing. Yeah, there's something to that. Yeah,

1485
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 6: there's something to that. Like I like that, Like you

1486
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 6: have to be aggressive you have to go for it.

1487
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 6: You have to continue to keep your front on the gas. Yeah,

1488
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 6: I'm okay with that.

1489
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: Okay, And last year.

1490
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: There's going to be a familiar look in the well

1491
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: the UFL maybe to the NFL one day, the ones

1492
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 2: who watched college football. Receiver will only need one foot

1493
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: in bounds for a catch, which is used obviously by

1494
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: the nc double A the NTI. The NFL has to

1495
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: have two feet in. I don't understand why, but that's

1496
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: basically the reasoning I think it should. I mean, you're

1497
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: a college kid. You want to play in the NFL.

1498
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: You know, you might as well have the same deal

1499
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL as you have in college one foot.

1500
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: If you remember that game, I believe it was what

1501
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: in November, Indiana was playing Penn State and they were

1502
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 2: losing like twenty four to twenty, and they were looking

1503
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: to lose maybe would been the first loss of the year.

1504
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza dropped back, he threw the ball to Omar

1505
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: Cooper the back of the end zone and he came

1506
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: down with it and he dragged that one foot in

1507
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: and there was a touchdown, but he had one foot

1508
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: out of bounce.

1509
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 3: But I had one foot in it was a touchdown.

1510
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was a great catch and those things.

1511
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I do like having elevated rules at

1512
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 6: the pro level. It's not an amateur game, and so

1513
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 6: you expect the pros to do a little more. So

1514
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 6: whether there's two feet in compared to one foot, that's

1515
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 6: a skill thing, and that's something that should be practicing.

1516
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 6: I'm okay with all of those types of things, but

1517
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 6: I would like to see some things that can be

1518
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 6: done to increase to scoring without always penalizing the defense

1519
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 6: for all of the hits and all that other stuff.

1520
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 6: Like there's a happy medium where we let defenders play

1521
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 6: while also giving the offense some opportunities to put more

1522
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 6: points on the board.

1523
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: Right, No, I hear what you're saying, unless, but not least,

1524
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: the NFL. The salary cap now is top three hundred mili.

1525
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 2: What was a salary cap when you played? You remember?

1526
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 4: Good? Gosh, I don't know, man, they had to be

1527
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: down at the bottom. I saw that it's going.

1528
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I watched that it's gone from like one one

1529
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty one million to up to three hundred million,

1530
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 6: which tells you when you're over here talking about funding stadiums.

1531
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: And those things. The owners are not hurting for money. No,

1532
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 4: they're not hurting for money.

1533
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 6: Like they're good and there's a lot of money being made.

1534
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 6: There's a lot of stuff that's being turned over. The

1535
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 6: game is at a great place. It's more popular than ever.

1536
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 6: We're seeing the inflow of women populating the game. Some

1537
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 6: of that has been driven by the advancements of flag

1538
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 6: football in those things.

1539
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 4: So it's in a great spot. And the money.

1540
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 6: They're telling you, the money is nice and it's only

1541
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 6: going to get better. As they continue to add international games,

1542
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 6: they add another game to the regular season schedule, you'll

1543
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 6: see the money continue to explode. Because there's an appetite

1544
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: for football that's unlike any other thing that we have

1545
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 6: in our country.

1546
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: Why is that.

1547
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 3: It's for National Football League in college?

1548
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: Fool?

1549
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: Now this United League that's starting up. The appetitis in

1550
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: for the United League? Why is it? Because?

1551
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get it.

1552
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't got used to it. It's a different

1553
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 4: time of year.

1554
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 6: But I bet you this, if you put spring football

1555
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 6: games on, if you put Alabama versus whatever Tennessee spring scrimmage,

1556
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 6: I bet you that would draw a number, just because

1557
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 6: those two things are institutions, the National Football League and

1558
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 6: college football.

1559
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: They institutions. They've been around a long time.

1560
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 6: A lot of people have kind of built these entities

1561
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 6: up into these behemans that they are now.

1562
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: I think with the UFL's it.

1563
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 6: Look it's in this infancy state, right Like, it's still

1564
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 6: hard to wreck your brains around a spring league with

1565
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 6: these teams that I don't have a tie, like who's

1566
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 6: who and what's what.

1567
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 4: That's a little harder right now, you know.

1568
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: I just if you are like an executive in the

1569
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: United Football League, you've got to be banging your head

1570
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: against the wall saying, you know, the NFL is getting

1571
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: sixty seventy thousand people every Sunday.

1572
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: We can't get seven thousand people here? What's the deal?

1573
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: What are we going to do?

1574
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 3: How come?

1575
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: Obviously people are not familiar with the player the players' names,

1576
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 2: all right, But maybe they're burnt out, they're finished with

1577
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. They just want to move on and

1578
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: take a little breather. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the timing.

1579
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: But again, there's been some interest in the WNBA, and

1580
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: they play in the offseason. They start in May and

1581
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: it's basketball, and basketball goes basicly all year if the

1582
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: March Madness right, So I don't understand that. And the

1583
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: women who play in March Madness a couple of weeks

1584
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: right after that they go run into the WNBA. They

1585
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: don't even have an offseason.

1586
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's are familiarated with the league, the teams in

1587
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 6: those things. It just takes us adapting and adjusting to that.

1588
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 6: Like we just haven't done that. And I can't really

1589
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 6: explain why it hasn't clicked, but it just hasn't clicked

1590
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 6: in terms of like ratings in those things, despite the

1591
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 6: obvious value in having a spring league.

1592
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 4: Now, the gambling helps a little bit.

1593
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 6: Because it forces to people tuned in because they're gamble

1594
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 6: on anything with the propits.

1595
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 4: But it's just a matter of trying to continue to

1596
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: feed it in.

1597
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 6: I would say this, if they would make that league

1598
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 6: the official feeder league minor league of the National Football

1599
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 6: League and the National Football League put some of its

1600
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 6: marketing muscle behind it, they could help it like they would.

1601
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: It's no different than the NBA in the summer league.

1602
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 6: They need to put them the muscle, the machine behind it,

1603
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 6: and that'll change the narrative of way the UFL that

1604
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 6: is perceived and the way it looks.

1605
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you one quickie before we roll on here.

1606
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 3: One quickie.

1607
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: The salary cap is topping three hundred million. What does

1608
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: that mean now for owners and players? Will there be

1609
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 2: more holdouts right now? The players knowing this money available

1610
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: is that's gonna be the situation. I know it's good

1611
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: for the league financially, but what does it mean for

1612
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: the average Joe and for a player in the league.

1613
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 6: It just means, like you're talking about more money, more opportunities,

1614
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 6: you can do more things. Directly, as it relates to

1615
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 6: free agency, your team, your favorite team now has more

1616
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 6: money to spend. Having more money to spend means that

1617
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 6: all player salaries are increased because Erizon lifts all boats.

1618
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 6: And because of that, like you're gonna see guys get

1619
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 6: a lot of money. We're gonna say, I can't believe

1620
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 6: they're overpaying for this person. Will Now, when a worthy

1621
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 6: free agent comes up, a blue chain preage comes up,

1622
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 6: he's going to take the market to another level and

1623
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 6: so everyone.

1624
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: Gets paid more.

1625
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 6: So it's elevating the game monetarily, it's elevating the game. Uh,

1626
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 6: from an owner standpoint, because with more money they have

1627
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 6: the ability to do more things, not only in building

1628
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 6: up their team, but in building up the areas around

1629
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 6: the team, the stadiums and all that. So it's a

1630
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 6: win win whenever the salary cap goes up, because it

1631
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 6: means the league is thriving, and all they're gonna do

1632
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 6: is double down to see if they can make it

1633
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 6: continue to travel over the next decade or two.

1634
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: Here we go, we're Life for the Fox Most Radio Studios.

1635
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: And now there's two directions. You can go yay orn

1636
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: ay and they're next. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1637
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: All right, it's time for yay Ornay on Fox Sports Radio.

1638
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy from and with Life on

1639
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: the Fox Most Radio Studios. Shayshe are you ready? Let's

1640
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: do it?

1641
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 7: Yay, Okay, let's figure rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories

1642
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 7: need it is.

1643
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: I think we need a ruling on this day.

1644
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 5: We're getting right here. You hate it?

1645
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: Can you hate the shay? Can you hate it?

1646
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 5: And it's been so long I keep interrupting you. I

1647
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 5: need I need to figure out these cues again.

1648
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 4: We just do it.

1649
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 5: No, No, it's my fault. That's my fault. But yea

1650
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 5: or nay, here we go. I give you guys some

1651
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 5: situations happening in the sports world, and you guys tell

1652
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 5: me yay or nay. Let's get right.

1653
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 10: Walks involved to in this. You know, is he I

1654
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 10: love that if he, if he wants, I love that.

1655
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 10: This is turned into a family event. Now I'm very

1656
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 10: excited with all this, but I keep talking, let's get

1657
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 10: right into this game. For the first time ever, this year,

1658
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 10: the NCAA will host a national championship for women's wrestling.

1659
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 5: Guys, Yeah your nay, Bucky yay.

1660
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 6: I mean, look, they should look if you're gonna let

1661
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 6: them participate, if you do have like women's sports, they

1662
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 6: should get the full advantage. So I'm looking for a championship.

1663
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to it. I believe in it.

1664
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 4: Annoying out here in California, the scene the girls and

1665
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 4: the ladies participant and do their thing on the mat.

1666
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like at

1667
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 4: the NCAA level.

1668
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: I like it because it creates more jobs and more visibility.

1669
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: Because now you're gonnadd wrestling coaches. You get more scholarship

1670
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: money and obviously. Maybe these girls are gonna get on

1671
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: nil money. I don't know if they will or not.

1672
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: But if you're a wrestler, you have an opportunity now

1673
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: to compete. I have to compete with the best. So

1674
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I love it.

1675
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: I hope it's on TV because I'm gonna watch it.

1676
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: How's that.

1677
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 2: Is anybody throwing chairs? I don't think so.

1678
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 5: I need to know.

1679
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 3: Greg Roman wrestling.

1680
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh, but it's that kind.

1681
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 5: I'll never mind it. The Dampa International Airport, that's a

1682
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 5: real problem with people wearing pjs. They want them banned

1683
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 5: in the terminal. Yeah, your knay, guys, I mean, what

1684
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:54,759
Speaker 5: kind of pj's.

1685
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 6: What kind of pajamas are people weiarhing? I mean, that's

1686
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 6: what I want to figure out. Like we're talking about

1687
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 6: people in pajama pants. We got people walking around and neglige.

1688
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 6: It's like, like, what is being Warren in Tampa?

1689
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 5: Bucky's asking the right questions because I'll tell you he's.

1690
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: Not because as always the clean let him go.

1691
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I see people when Warrist close than pajamas

1692
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: at airport, anywhere, on a bus, on the subway in

1693
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: New York. Really, there's nothing wrong but they're colorful, some

1694
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: of them ice right, don't you think.

1695
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 5: Andy, my pajamas are no pajamas? Do you get what

1696
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 5: I'm lying down right now?

1697
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. Yeah, I don't think anyone

1698
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: wants I don't want to get a visual.

1699
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 3: I don't want a visual of that.

1700
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 9: I really don't really mark only wrestler's career pajamas.

1701
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: Oh geezu, we're finished with the wrestling. We're finished with

1702
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: the wrestling. Really, just move on.

1703
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 5: A Major League baseball season starts Wednesday night, March twenty fifth,

1704
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 5: with the Yankees at the Giants. Too early, Yeah, your

1705
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 5: name buck?

1706
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I mean March.

1707
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 6: I thought we normally start in April, but it seems

1708
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 6: a little But it's fine. They've been in the spring

1709
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 6: training quietly. I see all these games coming through on

1710
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 6: the ticker when I'm following score.

1711
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 4: So yeah, let's kick it off. Let's get it going.

1712
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: You know, it's not too early if you're a baseball

1713
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: nut and if you're a baseball fan. But to me,

1714
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: you know, March twenty fifth, I mean, I know baseball

1715
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 2: used to still around April tenth, around tax time, April fifteenth,

1716
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: maybe March twenty fifth, that you auret of your mind,

1717
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: and they're stupid enough to have some of these games

1718
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: playing in.

1719
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 3: The Northeast, like a home game in Boston in March.

1720
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? You've got to bring a shovel to

1721
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: get your seat, to get the snow off it. I mean,

1722
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: it's not good for the players. It's not healthy. Injuries

1723
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: is gonna happen. You're not seeing the best of the

1724
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: best physical aspects of the game because it's cold.

1725
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: It's too cold for baseball. Baseball.

1726
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,480
Speaker 2: You play on the sunlight, not in the snowstorm.

1727
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: No baseball in cold weather.

1728
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 5: No, no, thank you, thank you.

1729
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 4: It's weird.

1730
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 5: More baseball, the better. On to the next one. The

1731
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 5: NCAA is wandering March Madness expansion yay or nay? Fellas fuck.

1732
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 4: No, I mean everyone makes it now. No, at some

1733
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 4: point you gotta draw it a lot.

1734
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 6: No more teams can go into March Madness like we're

1735
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 6: good sixty eight or whatever we're at now, like we're fine.

1736
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 4: No more.

1737
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Nay, I say, n You know what,

1738
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: they have to stop thinking of the money.

1739
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, you have to worry about how the tournament

1740
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 2: is and the credibility of the tournament. You know, and

1741
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,839
Speaker 2: these people that run these tournaments, and the executive directors

1742
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: of the NCAA, they look at the green they look

1743
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: at the green cabbage, the guilt that what they want

1744
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: is the money. No, you know, you got teams right

1745
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: now that are coming in there that don't even deserve

1746
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: that they win a conference tournament with a losing record.

1747
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: No, no, no, keep it the way it is.

1748
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1749
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1752
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1753
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1784
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Speaker 2: to Riches's story I want to share with Bucky Brooks.

1785
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Buck?

1786
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? We can be ready.

1787
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Kurtz Signetti. I don't think he

1788
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: gets the love that he should get because what was

1789
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 2: the three years ago he was coaching at a Football

1790
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: Bowl Subdivision team with James Madison, And really and truly

1791
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: right now what he did in Indiana in twenty twenty

1792
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: five and now this year he's got a new contract

1793
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: good through twenty thirty three, thirteen point two million dollars annually.

1794
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: He's up there with the big boys. He's up that

1795
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 2: he should be, he should be. This is great. I

1796
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: love to hear stories like that. I mean, who knew

1797
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: and believe me, he was on the short list of

1798
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati and they didn't hire him. I

1799
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: don't know if it would have been the same at Cincinnati.

1800
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, But if he would have taken his

1801
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: guys from James Madison as he did to Indiana to Cincinnati,

1802
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: maybe maybe could have been right, could have should have been.

1803
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 4: Maybe you just never know.

1804
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 6: Like here's what I'll say, like Signetti landed in a

1805
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 6: perfect storm because not only did he go to a

1806
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 6: place where he's able to bring some of his people

1807
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 6: from JMU, but it was a time where a fan

1808
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 6: base and a school really wanted the school to go

1809
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 6: to Tonight, WILLI won.

1810
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 4: The football program to go to the next level.

1811
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 6: So they've been all in and because of the alumni

1812
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 6: based because of the money that is around the school,

1813
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 6: they've been able to upgrade the program.

1814
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 5: Now.

1815
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: He is a terrific coach, but he's also had to

1816
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 4: support in the alignment of the administration. That's important.

1817
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 6: I don't know if people have got that same thing,

1818
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 6: that same alignment and Cincinnati, we don't know.

1819
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke Ficco had it.

1820
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 6: You know, it was rolling, they were in the Big Dance,

1821
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 6: they were doing their things, so maybe it would have

1822
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 6: been the same.

1823
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1824
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 6: I just think he when I look at him, I

1825
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 6: just think it's been a perfect marriage to him in Indiana.

1826
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, Indiana has become a football

1827
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 2: school not a basketball school.

1828
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 3: Anymore, which is crazy.

1829
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah, Bob and I looking down, looking

1830
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: down and saying, what's happening to my school over there?

1831
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: But let's look at some of the things Signetti did,

1832
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: because I think that we need to take a hard

1833
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: look of this guy. What he is accomplissed. Really, first

1834
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 2: ten win season in school history, first college football playoff

1835
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: appearance in school history, first unbeaten and untied season in

1836
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: school history, first national title in school history, first Big

1837
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 2: Ten championship in more than half a century, first sixteen

1838
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 2: and old season in college football history.

1839
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 3: I know Yale was.

1840
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 2: Undefeated in eighteen ninety four. I'm not counting that real

1841
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 2: Signetti won twenty seven of twenty nine games and the

1842
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: two losses in twenty twenty four were to national champion

1843
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State and runner up note to Dame. Pretty good. Now,

1844
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: the pressure is aren't that could keep it rolling? And

1845
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,719
Speaker 2: I think he will.

1846
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how much pressure is on him

1847
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 4: to keep it rolling like he's done. The hard part.

1848
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 6: The hard part is getting them up there now because

1849
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 6: he's a winner and because he's been winning for a

1850
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 6: long time, Sustaining it is definitely difficult. But I would

1851
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 6: say the hardest part at IU was getting it up

1852
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 6: to the point where they can envision their program being

1853
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 6: a national title contender.

1854
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 4: Now you have a different level.

1855
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 6: The player that wants to go there, the players that

1856
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 6: never would consider Indiana, now they're calling Indiana.

1857
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 4: Seeing if they can come and get down.

1858
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 6: So it's a different set of problems, but I think

1859
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 6: it's an easier set to manage now than when they

1860
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 6: were irrelevant and he was trying to bring him.

1861
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 4: Up to prominence.

1862
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: You know, that puts a lot of pressure on schools

1863
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: that are basically known as football schools that have not

1864
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: been winning. But we've seen this before, We've seen it

1865
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: now at Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, all of a sudden, there's been

1866
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: a tough cookie in football. They're winning in football right now,

1867
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt's winning in basketball, they're winning in women's basketball.

1868
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's NIL.

1869
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if the recruiting standards are maybe even

1870
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: lowered for athletes, I don't know, But the bottom line

1871
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 2: is Vanderbilt's winning right now, Indiana's winning, and.

1872
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 3: I put pressure on schools that are supposed to win.

1873
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of pressure right now is on

1874
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: a school like Penn State to win in football after

1875
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,879
Speaker 2: seeing what Indiana has done.

1876
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 6: Well, it's a lot of pressure on them to be

1877
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 6: able to win and do it because Vanderbilt is in

1878
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 6: the mix. Because Indiana, they are in the mix. What

1879
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 6: has happened when NIL came on board and they made

1880
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 6: the paying of players standard across the board as opposed

1881
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 6: to just the teams that were cheating.

1882
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 4: It allowed those schools who have very rich and wealthy

1883
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 4: alums to get into the game.

1884
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 6: And once those schools decided to get into the game

1885
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 6: and they come all in, you've seen a dramatic improvement

1886
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 6: of those situations. They got the right coach, they got

1887
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 6: the right alignment between coach and administration all the way up,

1888
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 6: and then you have the alumni pouring in because here's

1889
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 6: what we all want. We always wanted to have the

1890
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 6: ability to brag on our schools. There's a badge of

1891
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 6: honor and pride that we walk around with based on

1892
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 6: where we graduated from. And so Vanderbilt people want to

1893
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 6: be able to celebrate the success of their school, champion

1894
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 6: their schools, just like Indiana and some of these other schools.

1895
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 4: And that's why we're seeing some of these teams that

1896
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 4: we've never.

1897
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 6: Talked about in the conversation and college football as a

1898
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 6: potential or budding powerhouse, we're seeing them jump in because

1899
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 6: now the money is fair across the board and those

1900
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 6: teams can get in the game unlike they could in

1901
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 6: the past because it wasn't allowed and they were trying

1902
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 6: to play by the rules.

1903
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: Okay, So the question I have for you, So I'm

1904
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 2: being interviewed for a college head football coaching job in

1905
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: years past, I think you look at the facilities, You

1906
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: look at the schedule, obviously, you look at the contract

1907
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: to see how much you gonna get paid. Can you

1908
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 2: possibly right now ask the athletic director or the board

1909
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 2: that it views you say, I want to know a

1910
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 2: list of rich alums. Is that what they do now?

1911
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: Because that's what you need.

1912
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but everyone knows.

1913
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 6: They send it out, They send in that information and

1914
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 6: you know who to tap into early. But yes, it

1915
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 6: is essential that you want those people on board with you.

1916
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 6: You got to have them on board because that's the

1917
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 6: only way that you can take it to the highest level.

1918
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it really is now that that's the beautiful

1919
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 2: part of college football. And the reks to Riches's story

1920
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: with Kurt Signette, and I think it's wonderful, not as

1921
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: an ugly one, not as an ugly story because the

1922
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: nil and I don't know how you fixed it.

1923
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 4: Okay.

1924
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: The University of Cincinnati is suing former quarterback Brendan Soresby

1925
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 2: for breach of contract they want a hunt, They want

1926
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 2: a million dollar buyout after he's transfer to Texas Tech.

1927
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: All right, first of all, I want to know why

1928
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: that stupid. I'm just asking this question. Why is he

1929
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: not sitting out? Back in the day, when you transferred

1930
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: from school A to school B, you had to sit

1931
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: out a year. I guess that's down the cropper right now,

1932
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen anymore. So, Soorsby leaves Cincinnati getting something

1933
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: like five million dollars to go to Texas Tech. And

1934
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: he had a contract signed with Cincinnati. Who pays that deal?

1935
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Does Cincinnati get money from Texas Tech? Soors be responsible

1936
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: for that money because I got to believe this kid

1937
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: probably went through to million dollars ready.

1938
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 6: Uh, Texas Tech could pay for it. They'll make sure

1939
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 6: that he's right and he's taken care of. There's buyouts

1940
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 6: in those things, and they'll make sure that he's all.

1941
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 6: It's no different than what happened at Duke with the

1942
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 6: quarterback Mensa who went to Miami. Miami had to fork

1943
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 6: over some cash to get him. But that's just the

1944
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 6: way we do business. It's no different than professional sports.

1945
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 6: That's that's how that's how we're getting down now is different.

1946
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 6: It's a brand new world. But yeah, we have to

1947
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 6: get used to that.

1948
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: You know, how do you control this?

1949
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Okay? I would think maybe because this is ugly.

1950
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Soorsby basically was giving some life to the

1951
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati football program, and he did. He did a decent job.

1952
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: And obviously Cincinnati's growing in that twelve right now. It

1953
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: should be a tough conference to play in, have to

1954
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: compete with schools like Texas Tech that could shell out

1955
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,759
Speaker 2: five million dollars for a quarterback. But maybe there should

1956
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: be a ruling where there's only a limited number of

1957
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: transfers per year per school.

1958
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 4: Maybe I think, why why are we trying to limit that?

1959
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 6: Like, no, there shouldn't be limits on it anything like

1960
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 6: it's free trade, is free enterprise. I don't love it

1961
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 6: from a standpoint of these guys trying to pursue their

1962
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 6: career degrees in those things. But no, you can't put

1963
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 6: caps and limits on all of this. We don't have

1964
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 6: caps and limits on the coaches, while we're gonna have

1965
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 6: caps and limits on the players.

1966
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 4: Like no, it can't exist.

1967
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I hear what you say.

1968
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: You're right, because if I'm a player, I'm getting a

1969
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: wooed by another school. I want to go, and I

1970
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 2: don't tell me I can't go because we've reached the

1971
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: cap limit. Okay, that I get, all right, I understand that.

1972
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 2: But there should be maybe a cap on the salary.

1973
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 2: And I think there was Rick Patino that said that.

1974
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: Rick Patino said, take a look at the Big Eastern

1975
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 2: basketball right now, what are the teams that are really

1976
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: You got Connecticut, Villanova, and Saint John's. Other than that,

1977
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 2: every team is right down on the cropper, they really are.

1978
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,839
Speaker 2: So he thinks that maybe there should be a budget,

1979
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 2: a budget anil not not a number of transferred number situation,

1980
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: but maybe just a budget how much you could spend

1981
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 2: because obviously Saint John's and Connecticut are probably spending a

1982
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: lot more than schools like Butler and Xavier, and it

1983
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: shows in the one loss record. I think, to even

1984
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 2: things out, there was a time when the Big East

1985
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 2: Conference was pretty competitive. They're really not that competitive any long.

1986
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 2: Remember Georgetown was a power They're terrible now.

1987
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1988
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 6: But see, it's a deeper issue than that. See, because

1989
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 6: here's what college wants. They want their cake and they

1990
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 6: want to eat it too. Okay, so you can have

1991
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 6: a salary cap, but that has to be collectively bargain

1992
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 6: with the players. Colleges don't want to acknowledge that players

1993
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 6: are employees.

1994
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 4: They also don't want the athletes to unionize, and so

1995
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 4: you cannot have cbas without acknowledging their employees and negotiating

1996
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 4: with a union. And so if you don't want those things,

1997
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 4: all of this crying, all of this complaining, all of

1998
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 4: this is in vain because you can't hold the players

1999
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 4: to a standard until you put those things in place.

2000
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 4: It's amazing.

2001
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel bad for Scott's Sadafield, the coach

2002
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. He is.

2003
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 4: Why do you feel bad for him? Like, why do

2004
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 4: you feel bad for him?

2005
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't feel bad for him.

2006
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's participated in the game.

2007
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 6: And I bet you if we looked at their roster,

2008
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 6: they plucked some people from other schools.

2009
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 4: This is the game that we chose. So like, he

2010
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 4: got in the business. He knows what it is. Everyone

2011
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 4: knows what this is.

2012
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 6: So when people are complaining about tampering or oh my gosh,

2013
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 6: they took this player from us, yeah, but you took

2014
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 6: somebody from a lower school, Like this is what it is.

2015
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 6: And so you have to recruit better, you have to

2016
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 6: find a way to routine retain your player. And ultimately,

2017
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 6: right now, it's cood cash on demand. You gotta have

2018
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 6: cash to be able to play with the big boys.

2019
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 6: And if not, like you're gonna lose.

2020
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: You're right, You're exactly right. And you have to have

2021
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 2: the alums to get the cash and over both their wallet.

2022
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 3: But here's the deal.

2023
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: I honestly believe schools that have one major sport, be

2024
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: it basketball or football, have an advantage of the schools

2025
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: that have two. In other words, Saint John's has an

2026
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 2: advantage because they don't really have football. So all the

2027
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 2: money and the alums poured into basketball, don't you don't you?

2028
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Any of the big East schools have that advantage. They

2029
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: don't have football. Marquette, Georgetown, Saint John's, Providence, all those schools.

2030
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Butler, they don't have football.

2031
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 2: So the money with the alums, if they are true

2032
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: alums of money, they're gonna spend it on basketball, not football.

2033
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 3: If you have both, it's tough, it really is.

2034
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 6: So what you're gonna have to do as an athletic department,

2035
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:49,879
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to make a decision.

2036
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 4: Do you want to play with the big boys, or

2037
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 4: do you want to drop down? Because if you want

2038
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: to play with the big boys, you gotta you gotta,

2039
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: you got to any up, you got to you got

2040
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 4: a pony up. You gotta have the cash. If you

2041
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 4: don't do you need to drop down, and you need

2042
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 4: to be okay with dropping down. That's what's going to

2043
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 4: happen because you can't sustain it as it is. It

2044
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 4: comes down to the money. You just can't operate in

2045
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: the red forever. So teams, well, I can't say teams.

2046
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 6: Universities are going to have to make decisions on where

2047
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 6: do they want their athletic programs to operate.

2048
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 5: That's it.

2049
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 6: Just know when you have strong football and basketball teams,

2050
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 6: it ups everything when it comes to enrollment, emissions, applications,

2051
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 6: all that other stuff.

2052
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 4: So the business is good when your teams are good.

2053
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 4: So weighing and juggling that major decisions for presidents and

2054
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 4: athletic directors.

2055
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 2: So if you're in the alum of Indiana University and

2056
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: a wealthy alum, and you support the school and you

2057
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: give a check every year to check right now maybe

2058
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: more towards football than it ever was for basketball.

2059
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 3: Its football successful and you want to keep it running successfully.

2060
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's what it is. Like they

2061
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,879
Speaker 4: got a taste of it. They went all in. Football

2062
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 4: is a bigger driving machine.

2063
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 6: It's a bigger mechanism to drive the economic engine of

2064
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 6: the school.

2065
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 4: Like it's been proven, it's been documented, that's what gets

2066
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 4: it done.

2067
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 6: And so Indiana, who's tried for years to be okay

2068
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 6: in basketball basketball never got up to snuff. They go

2069
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 6: get Kirk Signetti football goals and now they're all over

2070
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 6: the place in terms of like people talking about Indiana

2071
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 6: the school, and I bet that has impacted They're academics,

2072
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: the type of students that want to go there because

2073
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 6: everyone wants to be part of a winning.

2074
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: And a championship experience.

2075
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 6: Whether you acknowledge athletics or not, you want to be

2076
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,560
Speaker 6: in that environment because we all like to be associated

2077
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 6: with winners.

2078
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 4: And Indiana has found that out.

2079
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 6: I've seen their athletic director talk about the investment and

2080
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 6: how it's paid off tenfold.

2081
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.

2082
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 6: And so making your decision to be a football factory

2083
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 6: a powerhouse can be beneficial, but you have to stand

2084
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 6: You got to pay to play.

2085
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 4: Takes money takes deep pockets to be able to get

2086
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 4: in there.

2087
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned what athletics does and

2088
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: success in sports does makes people crazy. It really doesn't

2089
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: give you an example the last week or so, which

2090
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: is Miami University. I don't call Miami of Ohio because

2091
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 2: it's University of Miami in Florida and Miami University in Oxford, Ohio.

2092
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 2: But Miami University in Oxford has done now with the

2093
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 2: twenty nine to oh season, They've created such a draw

2094
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 2: and sellouts. And while the Zrbiak came back for a game,

2095
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. Ron Harper came back for a game.

2096
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: But now they're talking about building a new arena. Think

2097
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 2: about that. I mean, they're going to Blista and this

2098
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: morning I just picked up the local newspaper. Some geography

2099
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 2: professor said that he got to put the brains on it,

2100
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: and you know, forget it. We don't need a new arena.

2101
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 2: You know, it's just athletic. No, you're wrong. You don't

2102
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 2: understand what athletics does. Athletics puts the school on the map.

2103
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 2: Athletics creates merchandise sales, and athletics creates so many jobs.

2104
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 2: And so many things for so many people. I mean, look,

2105
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 2: there's some ugliness with athletics. I understand that, but athletics

2106
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: basically is the blueprint of many a college or university.

2107
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: You know that as well as anybody. So this geography professor, look,

2108
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: hey Mac, I don't know what your name is. I

2109
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: just read the story.

2110
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: No one's going to Miami for geography.

2111
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 2: They're going to Miami for athletics, or because they're an

2112
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 2: athletic fan.

2113
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: That's why they're going there, right.

2114
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 6: I mean there's some things that Miami offers academically that

2115
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 6: are driving there, and it's become kind of the it's school.

2116
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 6: I'm going through the process and seeing like who applies

2117
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 6: there and that kind of stuff, like it has certainly

2118
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 6: changed private school people popping up.

2119
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, athletics is a big driver to a lot

2120
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 4: of it. You know, you have more name recognition nationally

2121
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 4: when you have great athletic programs. It's just easy, right,

2122
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 4: name value.

2123
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 6: Like Clemson was a hot thing for a minute when

2124
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 6: their football team was rolled under Dabbo.

2125
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it just that's what it is, man. People

2126
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 4: want to go there. It's bubbling, it's festive, it is

2127
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:05,799
Speaker 4: vie schools.

2128
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 2: There are schools we never heard of until they became

2129
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 2: good and athletic. Gounzaga. Who ever heard of Gonzaga until

2130
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 2: that basketball team became? But what about women's basketball? Immaculata.

2131
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: Who ever heard of a Maccuolata? No one even knows

2132
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 2: where it's at. You have heard women's basketball of it?

2133
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 4: I still haven't heard of that, like I've heard of Maculotta.

2134
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 4: That's that's a newer for me.

2135
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Is that where women's basketball kind of got their start

2136
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 2: back in the day. I think, all right, okay, I

2137
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: mean there are schools that have really put their name

2138
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: on the map with athletics that we've never heard of before. Right.

2139
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: We know when are the blue blood schools, But there

2140
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: were other schools that we really have not heard of

2141
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 2: for for athletics. That's that's what we heard of them,

2142
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: It's true. And schools that have died on the vine.

2143
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 2: University of San Francisco. Back in the day when Casey

2144
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: Jones and Bill Russell played for them, everybody heard of

2145
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Right now they aren't. After thought, it's athletics

2146
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 2: that put you in the limelight.

2147
01:38:58,960 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 3: That's what it does.

2148
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it certainly does put you in the spotlight.

2149
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 4: It kind of makes it happen. Is one of the

2150
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 4: things that everyone knows, every athletic department, every I mean

2151
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 4: everybody knows that if you have a really good football team,

2152
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 4: it changes the way people view your school.

2153
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: Right, I'm with you right there, and look, we'll talk

2154
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: about the athletics and the athletes that are coming there.

2155
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 2: You know more than anybody else because you are the

2156
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: hardest working man. As I said in Show Business, you

2157
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 2: have your second mock draft NFL dot Com this week.

2158
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 2: We'll get into it a little bit. First of all,

2159
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: let's ask you a question. It's got to take time.

2160
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 3: Why do you do it?

2161
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 2: Do they make you do it? I've never done a

2162
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 2: mock draft. I don't know the value in it. I

2163
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Speaker 2: think it's almost as valuable as the NFL combine. Really,

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Speaker 2: what do you do with the NFL draft? The mock draft?

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, it is a say click magnet. A

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Speaker 4: lot of people tune into mock drafts. Everyone believes in that.

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Speaker 4: They asked me, they approached me about doing one before

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Speaker 4: the co just because it's a big event. But it's

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Speaker 4: a traffic driver. Like I'll just be honest about you.

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Speaker 6: And so mock drafting on the reil for teams became

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Speaker 6: a thing that was born out of the ability of

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Speaker 6: strategizing how to approach the draft, like, Hey, let's pretend

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01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 6: this team takes this, this team thanks that. How will

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Speaker 6: we approach it if we're sitting in our pick and

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Speaker 6: these are the players that are on the board.

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Speaker 4: So it was an exercise that was an internal exercise

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Speaker 4: for a long time in the league, and then it

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01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 4: kind of became a fun activity for writers and people

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Speaker 4: around the game. And then it just exploded, right because

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Speaker 4: people like the predictive nature of being able to watch

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Speaker 4: the draft. And I would say the explosion of fantasy

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01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 4: football has given everybody a little feel that they could

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Speaker 4: be a general manager.

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Speaker 6: And when that happened, mock drafting goes to another level

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01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 6: because everyone viewed themselves as super scout.

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01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 4: I know how to build a team. I can look

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01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 4: at this player and do that. And so that's where

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01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 4: it is.

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01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 6: And so it's mix of informative stuff like great information,

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01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 6: and then it's a guessing game and then there's and

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01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 6: I told you so element that people like to be

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01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 6: able to participate in so they can look back and

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01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 6: look at the draft and say, see, I told you

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01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 6: he was going there.

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01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 4: He was going to go there, he was going to

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Speaker 4: live there. But it's still not the same as really scouting.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of questions, I ask you want

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Speaker 2: to continue on this, and also Ruben Bain Junior says

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Speaker 2: and some things about that as well, so we'll continue

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Speaker 2: of course the wonderful iHeart app But why can't a

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Speaker 2: Blame game coming up in about ten minutes from now.

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01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 2: But I want to just touch on this mock draft

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01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 2: that Bucky Brooks has a second one thow NFL dot com.

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01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 2: How long does it take you to do this thing?

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01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 2: Because it's got to be a monumental task. I wouldn't

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01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 2: even It's kind of like a term paper for school.

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Speaker 5: It's tough.

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Speaker 6: It tasts longer than it should take, but because I've

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Speaker 6: probably spent too much time thinking about it, but it

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01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 6: takes a little while to kind of put it together.

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01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 6: And when you're doing different versions of it, you're trying

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01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 6: to not produce the same thing, and so different things

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01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 6: will change it. And I would say the hardest thing

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01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 6: about doing it this time is that we haven't had

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01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 6: any movement for a while.

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01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 4: The first one I did, coaches hadn't been hired. Now

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01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 4: we're doing one, and free agency hasn't started, and that's

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01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 4: ultimately going to impact how people go about picking players

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Speaker 4: and what they need and those things. So it's a

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01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,799
Speaker 4: great exercise, I would say, for the fans and the public.

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01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 4: But if I fully disclosed like it's much ado about

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01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: nothing at this time of year.

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Speaker 2: I'm get you mentioned that. Okay, you know, we do

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01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 2: have a contest so much madness. Everybody gets to involved.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has a contest that work, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: They trying to cut it off at work because it's gambling,

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01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 2: but whatever it is, people do it all the time.

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01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 2: How come we don't have any contest for like mock drafts.

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01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. Uh there are some people complicated.

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Speaker 6: No, there's some people or some things that track the

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01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 6: accuracy of mock drafts and those things. But uh, you

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01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 6: probably could treat it just like the brackets and bracketbusters

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01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 6: and whatever little march madness thing that you want to

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01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 6: participate in and grade the accuracy of whether it's the

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01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 6: first round or you know that stuff.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sure there's a fun way to kind of

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01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 4: use the mock draft to kind of drive some interest

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Speaker 4: in that world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a personal question. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: at it, and here I go. I know you work

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Speaker 2: for an NFL team. I won't mention the team because

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01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to get anybody in trouble. But there's

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Speaker 2: anybody in your front office on your team ask you

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Speaker 2: for your copy of your draft, of your mock draft,

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Speaker 2: to see it that they use it.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, they don't do that. Like sometimes we have

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01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 6: conversations about players and those things. But and that's commonplace,

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01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 6: Like you always are talking. Everyone is always talking. What

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01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 6: do you think about? Like who do you like this

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01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 6: and that? But out of respect for them and what

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01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 6: they're doing, I tend to stay clear that I don't

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01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 6: ask them their opinion a lot, and the conversation we

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01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 6: have are typically just kind of casual when it comes

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01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 6: to players in those days and normally this time of

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01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 6: the year, everyone kind of tightens up.

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to the amount of information that

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Speaker 4: they let out of the building.

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Speaker 2: Right, you do have Fernando Mendoza as the number one

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Speaker 2: pick for the Las Vegas Rangers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that we get. I want to just question you

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 2: You have the number seven pick going to the Washington

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01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 2: Commanders and Ruben Bain junior Miami Universe, No University of Miami,

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Speaker 2: flor I'm sorry, edge rusher, He's only a junior. And

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Speaker 2: there's a comment here he made. He said that no

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Speaker 2: team is mentioned on length to him during his interviews. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he said, people bringing it up out of nowhere, but

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Speaker 2: no team's butted up to me. So I don't bring

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Speaker 2: it up either. As long as I just talk the talk,

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Speaker 2: I walk the walk, play with technique, nobody actually cares

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Speaker 2: about it. Look, he's been subjective. Are concerned over his

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Speaker 2: on length I could impact his skill as an edge

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01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: rusher in the NFL. Obviously didn't hurt him at Miami.

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Speaker 2: He had like nine and a half sacks this season,

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01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 2: twenty point five in his three year career. Tell me,

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01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 2: does that make a difference about on length. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why they makes such a big deal

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Speaker 2: about it. God could play as a player.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I one hundred percent believe in Hey, if

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01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 6: a guy can play, he's a player.

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01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 4: However, what you're trying to do is you're trying to eliminate.

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Speaker 6: You try to mitigate risks when you're an evaluator, and

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01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 6: so you want to create a set of standards that

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01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 6: allows you to.

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01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,679
Speaker 4: Take players that traditionally play well in the league.

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Speaker 6: And so this league has been played for a long time,

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01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 6: and so you're able to gather all the data that says, hey,

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01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 6: at this position, this is the height, the size, the speed,

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 6: the arm length, the handside that traditionally plays well in

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Speaker 6: this league. And so if you stick to those standards,

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01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 6: what it does is it allows you to eliminate those

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01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 6: that are outliers. Now, let's focus on the players that

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01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 6: hit those things, because the odds say you traditionally do it.

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01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 6: It's like playing blackjack, right, if you get to sixteen,

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01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 6: did I say stay or do they say, hey, always

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01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 6: take the next card. And so if we're doing that,

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01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 6: then what you're doing is you're willing to take the risk,

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01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 6: but it's an educated risk that you're doing that. You're

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01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 6: making sure that your pool is loaded with the type

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01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 6: of people that traditionally play for a long time in

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Speaker 6: the league.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to move to coaches right now, in

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01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 2: particular college basketball coaches. I want to know why coaches

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01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: can't do certain things any longer like they used to do.

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01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: What do I mean by that? Saint John's University coach

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Speaker 2: by Rick Patino. The Red Storm of Saint John's didn't

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01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 2: make a field goal in the final seventeen minutes in

2339
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 2: a loss to the Connecticut Huskies on Tuesday night, simply

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: two to forty, the worst loss to u can ever.

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01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 2: I think it was the second worst loss in the

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01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 2: career for Rick Patino, and Rick Patino said after the game,

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01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 2: it's all on me. I'm very disappointed in the performance offensively,

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01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 2: especially the offense of course, sharing the ball and moving

2345
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: the ball. It's all on me. But we getting ready

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01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 2: for Villanova, and they beat the living daylights out of

2347
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 2: Villanova almost by thirty yesterday. But here's the deal. They

2348
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 2: lost that and he took the full responsibility. I'm going

2349
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 2: to move back now to February eighteenth, twenty twenty four,

2350
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 2: when they lost sixty eight sixty two to Seton Hall,

2351
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 2: and he blamed the players. He said he described his

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01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 2: team as quote non athletic, and he stated that he

2353
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,799
Speaker 2: couldn't guard anyone without fouling. He also called out specific players'

2354
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: names were being slow laterally and physically weak. Then he

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01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 2: apologized a week later. So now when he said it's

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01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 2: all on me, I don't particularly believe him. I think

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01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 2: that in that locker room he must have went ballistic

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01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 2: after that loss to Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, coaches can't do that anymore.

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01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Right, It's a different there. It's a different age. You

2361
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 2: cannot go public and blame a player because I'll turn

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: that back on you and next thing, you know, the

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01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 2: names in the portal. That's just the way it is, right.

2364
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 2: So he said the blame is on me, It wasn't

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: on him. They played terribly. They couldn't make a field goal. Really,

2366
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 2: But I'm going back to when they did lose to

2367
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Seaton Hall back in twenty twenty four. He called his

2368
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: team physically weak, and believe me, a backfired can't do

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01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: that anymore.

2370
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 4: I disagree. I think you can still call them out.

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 6: I think it depends on the relationship and how much

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01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 6: trust you have between coach and player, and if you're

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01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 6: consistent with the way that you call them out. Sometimes

2374
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 6: they have to get called out when they're not playing

2375
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 6: the right way or not doing the right things. There's

2376
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 6: nothing wrong with that. I think what he is saying,

2377
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 6: and some of it may have been like tactically, maybe

2378
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 6: I didn't have him prepared for what we were facing,

2379
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,560
Speaker 6: so I didn't give our guys the best chance to

2380
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 6: win because hey, we didn't practice against whatever the taxis

2381
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 6: word the other team was utilizing. And sometimes as a

2382
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 6: coach you will take that in public, right, you eat

2383
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 6: it and your chastism.

2384
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,719
Speaker 4: But it is okay to use the media to get.

2385
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 6: A message across to your team, provided that you have

2386
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 6: strong relationships with your team.

2387
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I understand that, but I think some

2388
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 2: players can't handle it really. I mean, like last night,

2389
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 2: Arkansas is like by forty, they had one of the

2390
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 2: worst loss in John Caliperry's career, and he said, you

2391
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 2: know what, I've been coaching a long time. It happens,

2392
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: didn't blame anybody, you know. I think that's the way

2393
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 2: to go. It happens sometimes, it does happen. You have

2394
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 2: a bad night. Doesn't mean you're a bad team or

2395
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: a bad coach. You have a bad night. But I

2396
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 2: just don't see coaches ranting and raving like back in

2397
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: the day. I think things are a lot looser, and

2398
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 2: I think players play that way. I don't think players

2399
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: play with the fear like they played in years past

2400
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 2: because I think the players have a upper hand right now.

2401
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 2: They're not locked into a school. They could pack up

2402
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 2: and leave and play the next year. You know, back

2403
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 2: in the day you had to sit out a year

2404
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: if in fact the school even wanted you to transfer.

2405
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like, fear isn't the way to get the

2406
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 6: best out of people, Like that's just temporary the best way,

2407
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 6: and it's been proven research says the best way to

2408
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 6: get the best out of him is out of love.

2409
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 6: And people know that you love to be cared about them,

2410
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 6: then you'll do your best for them because you don't

2411
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 6: want to disappoint them. However, if you're trying to use

2412
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 6: fear or power, or intimidation to get them to play

2413
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:20,679
Speaker 6: at a certain level. That's temporary and after a while

2414
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 6: that's get that, that gets old and people are tune

2415
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 6: it out so because it becomes like white, white noise

2416
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 6: and so like.

2417
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: To might have success with fear Bob Knight.

2418
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 6: He did, but he didn't have great relationships with all

2419
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,560
Speaker 6: of his players because everyone's not built to take that

2420
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 6: kind of angst. Everyone can't take the Bob Knight style

2421
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 6: coaching being on you and at you and disrespectful and

2422
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 6: all that like that, Like, he might have got results,

2423
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 6: but he probably didn't get the best and have the

2424
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 6: best culture that you could possibly have.

2425
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Well that's why Larry Bird left, you know, he's it

2426
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: for a year and he left. He couldn't couldn't handle

2427
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,040
Speaker 2: Bob Knight. Perhaps, but love does work, because that's we

2428
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 2: got Shay Shape back as our executive producer. It's love.

2429
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,800
Speaker 3: It's about love, right always right, say it's love.

2430
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 5: That's all we can have in this world.

2431
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 4: I know, there we go.

2432
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 2: I mentioned about how to handle women. Talk about the

2433
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,759
Speaker 2: sweep and the end the Olympics, the gold medal sweet

2434
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 2: hockey in twenty twenty six Olympics. Right now, the women

2435
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: who win the gold medal, the men win the gold medal,

2436
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 2: and then the President Donald Trump says he wanted to congratulated,

2437
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: joked about inviting the women's team to the State of

2438
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 2: the Union, the State of the Union address. He's going

2439
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 2: to invite the men's team, he says, I guess going

2440
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 2: to have to bring the women's team too. In that

2441
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 2: video it was on social media, and he says if

2442
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 2: I do, I do believe I'll probably be in peace

2443
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 2: if I don't invite the women. And it wasn't a

2444
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 2: great thing to say. And then Hillary Knight on the

2445
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 2: women's team, a captain of the women's team. Actually, she

2446
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 2: described Trump's joke as distasteful and said it took away

2447
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 2: from the amazing gold medal feats by women across the

2448
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: board at the Olympics. You know, I don't know. I'm

2449
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 2: not a woman and I didn't play and I didn't

2450
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 2: earn a gold medal. Maybe she's onto something. I don't know,

2451
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 2: but maybe better off not saying anything. Sometimes saying nothing

2452
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,560
Speaker 2: is best than festering something and putting another log on

2453
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 2: the fire. I know, I think the President was maybe

2454
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 2: just joking. It probably was the wrong thing. He made

2455
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 2: a U turn there. He probably could if he could

2456
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 2: take it back, he would, but Hillary kept it going.

2457
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 3: And obviously what happened.

2458
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 2: The women didn't go to the White House. They said

2459
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 2: they had other things to do, so, you know, they

2460
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 2: were eventually invited and they decided not to go. Maybe

2461
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 2: it would have been better if they went and just

2462
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 2: keep peace. I don't know what do you think about that?

2463
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 6: Nah, Like one, it was distasteful and it was disrespectful

2464
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 6: to them because they've been the more successful of the two.

2465
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 6: Doubt the women's hockey team has dominated far more than

2466
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 6: the men, and so the off hand snide joke or

2467
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 6: comment was intentional, and so I can understand them reacting

2468
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 6: like that, And I think for a lot of people

2469
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 6: like because everyone always wants people to take the high

2470
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 6: road when is levied. Sometimes you have to hit people back,

2471
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 6: you have to fire back with a comment when people

2472
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 6: comment at that.

2473
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 4: So I don't have an issue with the women not going.

2474
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 4: I think that ultimately is up to the up to

2475
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 4: the team. You know, you leave it to the team,

2476
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 4: and the team wants to go, they go. If they don't,

2477
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 4: they don't. But I think people always kind of put

2478
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 4: it on others that are kind of like marginalized or

2479
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 4: the victims to oh, well, they should be able to

2480
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 4: handle that as opposed to really, look, you shouldn't have

2481
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 4: made the joke, like, that's not the way that it

2482
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 4: should have been when it comes to recognizing the accomplishments

2483
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 4: of the men, but taking a side swipe at the

2484
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 4: women not cool at all.

2485
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 2: Well, and you're right about that. It was the men's

2486
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: first goal in about forty six years, and the women

2487
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 2: have wanted several times.

2488
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 4: Prior dominanting that dominant they they have.

2489
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 3: Much more success of the men.

2490
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I don't know why that stevement was

2491
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 2: even said, but boy did it have a balloon. It

2492
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 2: went crazy and I don't think anybody expected Hillary or

2493
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 2: anybody else will the women's team to come back and

2494
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 2: do something like that. And the fact that they didn't

2495
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 2: want to go to the White House that was a

2496
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 2: big move on their part, It really was. They declined

2497
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 2: an invitation to attend the State of the Union address

2498
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 2: on Tuesday night. Unbelievable, it really was. But we move

2499
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 2: on because it's fun time. Now, it's blame game time.

2500
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and may firm wore back and we'll

2501
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: be live from the Fox Sports Radio studios because it's

2502
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 2: time to point your finger. It's time the blame game

2503
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 2: is freaking next.

2504
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: Don't listen no Fox Sports Radio.

2505
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Radio all right, Stevie wanted taken us into the blaying

2506
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 2: game right now. It's about twelve minutes before the top

2507
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and

2508
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 2: we are Fox Sports Sunnya Fox Sports Radio. We're live

2509
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We want to thank

2510
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 2: soundman himself, mister Mark Magic Mark of course, and our

2511
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: producer extraordin, their executive producer back Shayshay with us right

2512
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 2: now and obviously the top of the hour, which would

2513
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 2: be nine o'clock on the East Coast Countdown with the

2514
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: trio of Brian no, Jeff Schwartz and Bill Krakenberg will

2515
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 2: be right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2516
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 3: But right now it's time for the playing game.

2517
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 4: Your with me.

2518
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: It's all your fault, dude, it's your fault.

2519
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: It is all your fault.

2520
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's fault, see the liar. That's why there's

2521
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 3: the blame game. The blame game.

2522
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 2: Let's figure out who to blame, who to have blamed.

2523
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 2: All right, Shae, she who do we blame? Let's get

2524
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 2: it started, and we're going to bucket first. Go ahead,

2525
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 2: shakee sweet.

2526
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 5: The blame game.

2527
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 4: You heard the big man.

2528
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 5: You guys are gonna tell me who you blame for

2529
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 5: these major headlines within the sports world. The blame game.

2530
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 5: Let's do it. MLB season starts March twenty fifth, earliest ever.

2531
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 5: Who do you blame?

2532
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 6: I mean MLB for just trying to chase an early

2533
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 6: started Dave want to get to the money early. I

2534
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 6: don't know why they're starting so early, but I blame him.

2535
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 6: They said the schedule.

2536
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 2: It is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of, because

2537
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: eventually they're going to start on the East Coast, they'll

2538
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 2: play in Boston, they'll play in a cold climate. It's

2539
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 2: not good New York boy, they're gonna do it. I'm

2540
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 2: telling you, I don't like it. It's too long. Less

2541
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 2: is more, and it's gonna happen in the NFL. They're

2542
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 2: gonna keep on expanding. Eventually they'll have a twenty game season.

2543
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 2: Less is more. That's part of the success of the NFL.

2544
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 2: Do not start before April. I promise you. Why are

2545
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: you doing this and it's the middle of March madness. Anyway,

2546
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 2: come on, will you not good? I'm against that. I

2547
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 2: blame you missed the commissioner.

2548
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 5: The injuries are mounting up in the NBA, and it's

2549
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 5: not about tanking. Who do you guys blame Bucky?

2550
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 6: Look, I blame Partsiley is low management, but also the

2551
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 6: way training camps are done and guys aren't in shape.

2552
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 4: They're not ready to play.

2553
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 6: Because everyone is so fearful for injuries, they end up

2554
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,839
Speaker 6: getting injured because they're not properly prepared.

2555
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 4: You got to have a harder and more vigorous training

2556
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 4: camp to for the grind of the season.

2557
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 2: WHOA, I think the guys don't want to play. I

2558
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 2: think that's the problem. I mean, they don't want to

2559
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 2: play everything that Look, the schedule might be too long.

2560
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 2: I understand that it's rough. You play eighty two games

2561
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: and then after that you're playing so many playoff games.

2562
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to the playoffs. Maybe they are cut down,

2563
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 2: lever cut back the schedule, but still at all. Maybe

2564
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 2: there's a reason why to have load management. You got

2565
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 2: to rest the body. These guys are running about five

2566
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: to six miles a night, maybe more. You know for

2567
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 2: forty eight minutes you can't do it. It's tough. We've

2568
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: seen it, and the injuries are mount there. And you

2569
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: know who gets hurt the fans, the pain customer gets

2570
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 2: hurt because you want to see the stars. You don't

2571
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 2: want to see the also rans. Like going to a

2572
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 2: Broadway show. You want to see the stars, right, that's

2573
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 2: what you want to see.

2574
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 3: So shame on you. And once again, Adam Silver.

2575
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 5: The in season tournaments in the MLS and the NBA

2576
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 5: useless and confusing.

2577
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 3: Who do you blame.

2578
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 6: Both of the top leaders, Like, in an effort to

2579
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 6: try and add some spice or juice to the sport,

2580
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 6: they try to do what soccer has been able to

2581
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 6: do successfully overseas.

2582
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:52,200
Speaker 4: And it just it falls flat, like we're not used

2583
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: to that. It's just not what we're into.

2584
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't I don't think the nd season

2585
01:58:56,560 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 6: tournaments add anything to the seasons MLB or the NBA.

2586
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 2: Hey, soccer, this isn't Europe. Okay, you know the Commissioner

2587
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Speaker 2: of Soccer. I'm not going to embarrass him. I mentioned

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01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 2: his name, but he was my bunk mate in Timberlay camp. Okay,

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01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 2: we were campus together, all right, and now he's the

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Speaker 2: commissioner of MLS. We're not Europe, okay, we know Finally,

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01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 2: We've been so proud to invent sports on our turf,

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01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 2: like baseball and basketball. Now we're copying what they do

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01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 2: in Europe with these N season tournaments. No one cares,

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01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 2: no one knows about it. Go back to play and

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01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 2: for you, Adam Silver, I'll tell you something else. You know,

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01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,840
Speaker 2: forget about these N season tournaments. You know what you

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01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 2: got to do?

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Speaker 3: Clean up the game here. Stop with the three.

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Speaker 2: Maybe make a limit how many three point shots the

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01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 2: teeth could take or maybe only for one period they

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01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 2: could do it. I don't know, but it's disgusting to

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01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 2: take ninety plus threes a game and the NBA it's

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01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: killing the game. Sorry, real quick.

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Speaker 5: Last one, the NBA skills competition during All Star festivities

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01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 5: was once star studded. Oh how far have we fallen?

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Speaker 5: Who do you blame? I just think it's time.

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Speaker 6: I just think what I exposure to we just don't

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Speaker 6: see We see him all the time there where we

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Speaker 6: didn't used to see him. That's really what the issue is. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: So I just blame TV because they're over exposed to

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Speaker 6: the stars. And that's changed the all straight game.

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Speaker 2: I got to agree with Bucky Brooksy, I really do

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Speaker 2: a lot of times. I don't from agreeing with him

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Speaker 2: right now because he even said, how many times could

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02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 2: you dunk? Really, that's basically what it is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the dunks are not Initially they were great. We see

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02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 2: some of these guys dunking a basketball. But it's the

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Speaker 2: same old, same old. You got to change it. You know,

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02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 2: things change, you know, as society moves on, things change. Hey,

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02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 2: there are no newspapers anymore. Right back in the day

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02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 2: when the NBA was thriving, was all newspapers. Now it's

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02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 2: all social media. It's different, you know. Change with the times,

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver, Really, maybe I should wear a win. You

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02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 2: look different. Change with the dimes, be different.

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Speaker 5: And that's the blame game.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding me. You're kidding change with time anything else.

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Speaker 2: Let's ask Shayshe a question. How do you like coming back?

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Speaker 2: There's a question for you. Who do you blame?

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Speaker 5: I enjoyed coming back. I don't know if I want

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Speaker 5: to say who I blame, But no, I don't blame

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Speaker 5: no one. No, I'm really happy. I'm really happy to

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Speaker 5: be back with you. Guys, and I'm excited for what

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Speaker 5: we're going to make for the next couple of months.

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Speaker 3: So oh, you'll be here next week.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'll be here next week, don't worry.

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Speaker 3: All right, count down this next See you, buck.

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Speaker 2: You have a great week right here on Fox.