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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I finally put in for Idaho this year

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at least you get to chase the cows.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're some cool spots. I've been in the

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Speaker 3: hard to compete with. Turns out, yeah, with a bow,

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Speaker 3: with a rifle. I think there was two or three

434
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 3: we could have probably gotten into a situation with, but

435
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 3: it was good.

436
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,439
Speaker 1: I think they're starting to crossover into Nevada now if

437
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: there's some talk that there's been some from like the

438
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 1: Idaho dropping down into northern Nevada. But I haven't luckily

439
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,680
Speaker 1: seen any so.

440
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 3: Grizzly or wolves. Wolves. Okay, what's their stance? What's Nevada

441
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:20,959
Speaker 3: stance on wolves?

442
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

443
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 3: I feel like some states are like, hey, as soon

444
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 3: as you cross, kill them all. Yeah, and then some

445
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,880
Speaker 3: states are real protectively mainly Colorado.

446
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I don't know, at least for the

447
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,439
Speaker 1: people I talked to, is like they don't want.

448
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 3: Them any hunters and nobody hunters, no hunters, and no

449
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 3: farmers want them.

450
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: Correct exactly.

451
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 3: It's everybody that doesn't hunt, doesn't farm, and has watched

452
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 3: you made Disney movies, loves loves wolves.

453
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: And bears, doesn't understand management.

454
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, So why fishing and hunting after competing?

455
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I know why? For me?

456
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you the same question that

457
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: would be interested because I feel we were talking about it.

458
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 1: I was. I feel like we kind of done the

459
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: same things. Once you're done, I just needed something, like

460
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: another outlet and like something to Learning is my big thing.

461
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: I love learning new stuff. When I'm in something new,

462
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: it's like the more I can learn about it. And

463
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: then of course the competitive aspect is like I want

464
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: to be good at it, you know. So I didn't

465
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: really realize there's so much to learn about fishing, and

466
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: then getting into hunting, there's obviously a ton to learn there.

467
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 1: And then the physical aspect. I think there's more obviously

468
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: physical aspects of hunting, especially with a boat, than there

469
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 1: is fishing. That's what held me different. That was one

470
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: that drove me into there. But yeah, I don't know.

471
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: I just picked up fly fishing and I thought it

472
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: was cool and the challenging aspect of it, and again

473
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: trout living cool places and being in the West as

474
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: well well to get out. Yeah, it just kind of

475
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 1: drove me.

476
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Super similar for me, I think, one, yeah, sucking at

477
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 3: anything I hate, so I want to get better at it.

478
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: And then two I think, I mean, yes, there's a

479
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 3: competitive side if I want to get better at it,

480
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: but also the competitive side and as you know, people

481
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: are gonna be like, wow, it's not fair because animal

482
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: doesn't have the defense against or you're not getting shot at.

483
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: Those things are pretty smart and pretty good at figuring

484
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: out try and sneak like, and so that competitive Like

485
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: for me, that's the was the original competition, right, It's

486
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: like either you eat or you die. And so for me,

487
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: that was the original competition. And that's just where my

488
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: head's at now. I'm like all right, and I usually

489
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: get to do it in a group of your buddies,

490
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 3: you know, or my kids eventually, And so for me,

491
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 3: I like the team aspect of stuff too, of like

492
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: hanging out and trying to like work together and you know,

493
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: agree to disagree or you know, go after something right. Yeah.

494
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 2: What people don't understand about hunting is like it's for

495
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 2: those animals, like it's literally life or death. It's on

496
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: the line. People are like, man, it took you twenty days,

497
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: Like that seems like a long time. Like I see

498
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: them all the time in ESEs Parks.

499
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: This park ruined me. I had a couple of guys

500
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: there this week. We just got off of like a

501
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: hunting prep camp. It was a ton of fun. We

502
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: did some fitness and then we did some like breakouts

503
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 3: and some real world scenarios should come next year and uh.

504
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: And there were guys that were like, all right, so

505
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: in estes Park, I was like, scrap everything you know

506
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 3: about him?

507
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: Yeap, Yeah, my sister got married nessas Park dude.

508
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: We went to see them.

509
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

510
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: I think I want to say it might have been

511
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: after the first or at least the second or third

512
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: year we went hunting, and it.

513
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 2: Was between first and second year.

514
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: And and we I mean we were in one of

515
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: those jeep tours and literally we're driving down the road

516
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: and there's one and Trice is just you know, he

517
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 3: was two or something at the time, and he's like,

518
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: that's a big ol. And my wife is like, you

519
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 3: guys can't kill these things. You know, where are you

520
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: gone for seven days? And they just walk up to you,

521
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: and you know, there's a betted bowl, big betted bowl,

522
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: and you just walk right like within twenty yards ago.

523
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, people taking selfies with them.

524
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll show you one of the pictures

525
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: or videos. It's literally like I could have if I

526
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: had food in my hand it would have reached in

527
00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 3: and got it.

528
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it like hurt. It hurts, but especially if you've

529
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: been somewhere where you see nothing.

530
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Like are you kidd.

531
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: These things aren't real?

532
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people don't understand that. Like, it's life and

533
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: death for these animals, and if if it was life

534
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: and death for you and your family, you would do

535
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: everything you can to protect them. And that's the same

536
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: way the animals are. So it's freaking hard.

537
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: That's another aspect was you know, I wasn't in it.

538
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: It was kind of not anti hunting when I started,

539
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't really see the need

540
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: to hunt. And then I was like, I eat mostly meat,

541
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: so if I can do it in like the best way,

542
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: then that was that was like another step.

543
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. That's just a good byproduct.

544
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: You know, have an epic adventure to put food on

545
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: your plate. I'm okay with that.

546
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: Are you a solo hunter or do you like to

547
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: hunt with other people? What do you usually do?

548
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: I typically go out with some people. My cousin's one

549
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: big one, my buddy, He's coming out with me a

550
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: couple of times. The elk hunt last year was cool.

551
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: I had one buddy come out kind of helped me

552
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: get on some elk, he had to go back to work.

553
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: Another buddy came out to check it out. And then

554
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: the day we actually got one, my dad came out,

555
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: which my dad hasn't hunted in so long. But for

556
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: him to be up like on the mountain, be able

557
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: to watch the whole thing go down, it was like

558
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: a cool memory.

559
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: This cool.

560
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Usually a couple of people, I think solo would be sick.

561
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: I just I'm not a solo guy, like if I

562
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: had one other person. Granted, everything we do is with

563
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: a camera granted. Out here. You know what's cool is

564
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: I've got one hundred and sixty acres here, so I

565
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: do go out a lot by myself in the stand. Yeah,

566
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: but if I'm on a Western hunt, man, I like

567
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: just growing out and hanging out and usually there's at

568
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: least two or three of us.

569
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. No, I'm the same way. I think

570
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: solo would be cool. Maybe once or twice or something.

571
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: And it is cool, but and it is a little

572
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: lonely down there. You're out in the woods. It's like,

573
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if Yeah, dude, it's a little bit

574
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: sketched sometimes so, but it's fun, like you said, just

575
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: getting back to camp at night and hanging out and

576
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: getting up getting up early, and if someone's like tired,

577
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we're doing it. Let's go.

578
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: You don't want to let anybody else down on the team, right,

579
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: you know. I was never a raw, raw, fire him

580
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: up guy, but I was a hey, I'll get in

581
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: the trenches and you know, I'm not gonna be the

582
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: one to hold us up, or there was like a

583
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 3: it was just an understood rule. If I was doing something,

584
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: everybody else was doing something type thing.

585
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: So I've been on both solo hunts and team hunts,

586
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: and when you're on a solo hunt, there's definitely this

587
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: idea or this I guess theme that you're on your

588
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: own time, which is good and bad.

589
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: Right.

590
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: It's like, if you wanted to you can sleep in.

591
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: No one would.

592
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: Know, you know, like you could just have a nice siesta,

593
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: like nobody's gonna talk you out of it, exactly. But

594
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 2: it's that same with the gym. If you're working out

595
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: with guys, they're gonna push you. Yeah, you know, you're like,

596
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: oh man, that I crushed me, But they're gonna be

597
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: up at three am ready to rock for tomorrow, and

598
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: you better be there with them.

599
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, that's good.

600
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: Uh. I know the answer to this. But Jeff has

601
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: this question out here, says, do you wish you could

602
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: have had more time in the outdoors while you're competing?

603
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Do you think it would have slowed it would have

604
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: slowed you down or grounded you.

605
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a good question. I think I would have

606
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: loved to have more time in the outdoors. But also

607
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: it's like I would have loved to go on vacation exactly,

608
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was just.

609
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: Like the best in the world. That's what I'm telling

610
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: Anything to be the best in the world and anything,

611
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: you have to like, there's no such thing as balance.

612
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: It's selfish. It's selfish with your time. It's felt like

613
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: it is, you know you I want I would have

614
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: loved to That's kind of when I got into hunting.

615
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: Was towards the back half of my career. I got

616
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: into turkey hunting. But even then, man, it was like,

617
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: do I sacrifice getting up early, missing a training session

618
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: and being stressed the rest of the day because I

619
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: got to make up all this work that I usually

620
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: get in before nine o'clock, and it really wasn't that

621
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: big a deal, but it was, you know, like you

622
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: missed two or three hours of sleep. You then you

623
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: know you're out and doing whatever, and so man, I

624
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: just I just didn't enjoy it as much. I enjoyed it,

625
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: but there was always that in the back of my mind, like, oh,

626
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: I gotta get back or I gotta be doing whatever.

627
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: So I think it would have added at a stress

628
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: that's me personally.

629
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely, like even with any regular day life,

630
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: there's this kind this idea that when you go on

631
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: a hunt, you want to be present to the hunts.

632
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: That's tough, right, And if you're out on that hunt

633
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 2: or that fishing trip and you're thinking about all the

634
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: things you should be doing at home, it sucks.

635
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: It kind of loses that appeal totally.

636
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. What I'm learning, and especially with us when we

637
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: did that, we were going for ten to eleven days

638
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: between Emillo and the hunt, is like when Trice was there.

639
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I could justify being away

640
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 3: from my girls, but it made it like, Okay, I'm

641
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: getting some some time with Trice and whatever. So now

642
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm like that, I think we're gonna do first season

643
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: Rifle in Colorado, and I think I'm gonna bring Lakelan

644
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: because she's on fall break, and so like maybe let

645
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: her sleep in the mornings because we have some cabins

646
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: we can sleep in. It's a lease that we have,

647
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: and so then like an afternoon she could go, or

648
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: midday hunts she could go. And I think, I'm like,

649
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: you know, because I do have that, you have that

650
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: guilt or or you know, like, oh, man, I'm missing

651
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: six days of their life, which in the grand scheme,

652
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: they don't. I mean, they care, but they're not like,

653
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: you know, it's not that big of a deal. But

654
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: I think would be cool. That's my big thing is

655
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: like get as good as I can now, so when

656
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: they get old enough that we can all participate in

657
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: it together. I'm really looking forward to those times.

658
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking. I was thinking the same thing

659
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: with my daughter. This was the first time I brought

660
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: her out to this camp, and I was like, usually,

661
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, after a couple of days, you're like, man,

662
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: I really am missing the family. Want to get back.

663
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: And it's like not that I don't miss my son

664
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: and my wife, of course, but we've been in this

665
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: special time with her and I was like, I could

666
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: stay a little bit longer. Now, it's like this will

667
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: be so same thing. I was like, I want to

668
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: try to get one scouting trip with her, and just

669
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: got a rooftop tent on my truck and she we've

670
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: already gone to camp in it. I was like, now

671
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to taking her out and she wants

672
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: to help her and it. Yeah, you can bring them

673
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: along and make those memories.

674
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: That's my big push is like getting them to do

675
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: that stuff. And my dad was really good about, you know,

676
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: involving us and stuff. But he was super impatient. He

677
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: didn't hunt. He did. I remember seeing him like when

678
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: I think back, I remember seeing him come out of

679
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: the woods once or twice, but he never took me one.

680
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: I was super impatient. Wasn't gonna sit still, and he

681
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: was super impatient. Could barely get him to sit still.

682
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: And so you know, there was that. And then I

683
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: had some uncles that kind of I grew up with.

684
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: In one we actually that was my uncle that we

685
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: killed the bull with last year. He was he that

686
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: was fired up. And so I just want my kids

687
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: to if they want to be there with me. For sure.

688
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: It excites me when I hear Trice saying like, oh

689
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: I can be twelve when I shoot my first hotel.

690
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: My dad just fires me up as a friend of

691
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Rich's and a dad just because we're doing it, like

692
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: we're passing it down to the next generation. Like that's

693
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: what it's all about.

694
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, We're out there hiking and you know, doing

695
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: all this stuff at camp and he's like, no, Dad,

696
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: when can I shoot mine? And I'm like, all right,

697
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: that's cool. And then you know they're it's probably not legal,

698
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: but whatever. They didn't end up killing one, so it

699
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. They're they're like trying to kill chipmunks with rocks.

700
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: So like at one point I look out and we're

701
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: at camp and Trice is sitting over like the cabin

702
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: is here, and then there's a little like patio concrete patio,

703
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: and he's got a like a plastic chair and he's

704
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: just sitting there with a rock. I'm like, I walked

705
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: by at one point, I'm like, what are you doing?

706
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: And he's like trying to kill a chipmunk. I was

707
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: like what He's like, he keeps poking his head out

708
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: of here. So he was just thinking he was gonna

709
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: like drop the rock on this chipmunks. It was so funny.

710
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: They tried to make traps, they tried to do like

711
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: catch him with rocks, like it was so funny.

712
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: It's cool because like Trice is a pretty wild kid,

713
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: wild kid, like he was losing patience controlled like everyone's

714
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: like stop, like he's shushing people.

715
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: It was. It was hilarious. And then we get him

716
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: up on top of that mountain. He's just chucking rocks

717
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: off the hill. So at first I was like, oh, dude,

718
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: he could you know, cause he hiked up there and

719
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: crocs and was fine. But then as soon as we

720
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: get up here, he's just like rock chuck it off

721
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: the mountain. I'm like, hey, we're trying to watch these

722
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: out because we were glass in the one night and

723
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: he's just chucking rocks, just chucking rocks. I'm like, all right,

724
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: maybe he's not ready.

725
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: The same thing when we go fishing, though, like can

726
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: I do rocks in him?

727
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: We're fishing? What are you?

728
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Then you feel bad?

729
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: All right, doesn't matter. Yeah, I've got it. We've got

730
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: that pond out in the back. I need to clear

731
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: out us a little bank right there because they love

732
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: fishing back there. But I just I didn't grow up fishing,

733
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: and fishing is so slow for me. That's what everybody said.

734
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: Everybody said fly fishing would be way more fun. But

735
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: I like, I stocked that back pond. So it's got

736
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: bass catfish that's what Jason crappy whatever there, And so

737
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: it's a it's a cool little pond back there, and

738
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: there's a good trail to it, so we need to

739
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: get the bank cleaned up a little bit. There's a

740
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: bunch of like thick trees and stuff. But yeah, he

741
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: loves it.

742
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: I have a question for both of you guys, as

743
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: ex professional athletes, when you guys, there's a I guess

744
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: the theme out in the mountains that when you're hiking

745
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: or when you're looking over a pasture or a meadow whatever,

746
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: your mind is outside of time. So your mind has

747
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: this like I don't know, idea that you're thinking of.

748
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: You could be thinking of three months before, you can

749
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: be thinking of ten years before. Is anything that you guys,

750
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: when you're hunting or slowed time while fishing, that you

751
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: naturally think about in your I don't know, competitive career

752
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: like timeline or time frame or like events or missus

753
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: or championships.

754
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't think so. I think I'm pretty just

755
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: locked like that. Life for me is so so far

756
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: away that I mean, when I look back at it,

757
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: even individual videos, I'm like, I don't even know that

758
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: person anymore, you know, because my last seven years was

759
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: all on a team, and I enjoyed those years a

760
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: lot more because you have to share it with people.

761
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, I don't think my mind goes

762
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: back to competing, honestly. I think, you know, obviously you've

763
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: got the task at hand, thinking about you know, the

764
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: family or whatever. You know, there's like a game in

765
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: my head. I'm like, I wish time would hurry up,

766
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: because usually it's like the last thirty or forty five

767
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: minutes before dark, and then in that last thirty or

768
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: forty five minutes before dark, you want time to slow down.

769
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: But if that makes sense, so that's usually where my

770
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: mind goes. I'm like, man, hurry up, this the good

771
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: time to get there, sure, And then when the good

772
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: time gets there and you're not seeing anything, you're like,

773
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: all right, slow down. And so there's this weird time warp.

774
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: So you're just thinking about the hunt.

775
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I might be. You know, if we're

776
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: with a group kind of hanging out talking, I would say,

777
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: my mind just goes to my family and like if

778
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm missing something or whatever.

779
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, I would say the same as usually

780
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: just family, I would say. The one difference, And I

781
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: don't know if it's just because I was just at

782
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: this camp and we were just talking about it, but

783
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: I'd say if something like that does come up, it'd

784
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: probably be like just not getting that dream of the

785
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: Olympic medal. That was always the goal, was to get

786
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: a medal as a team, right, like the individual I

787
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't really care, Like I won NCAA Championships as a

788
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: individual all around, which is a cool feat. I would

789
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: have much rather won as an Olympic yeah, and then yeah,

790
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: and then an Olympic medal. That was kind of like

791
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: the goal. So and we were just talking about how

792
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: that is, like, you know, being a professional athlete. I'm

793
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: sure you know exactly how that feels of going like everything,

794
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: the selfishness of it, every nothing else matters, like that's

795
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: the only goal. And we were just I was like, man,

796
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: that Olympic medal is the one thing that I just

797
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: didn't get it and get right there. And as cliche

798
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: as it is, it's just more. It was more about

799
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: the journey, the things you learned. And I said that.

800
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that sounds so stupid, but

801
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: getting older now, yeah, realize.

802
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: You can you can uh yeah, you can well and

803
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: you can be proud of what you put in and

804
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: you know, like I honestly, all my medals are sitting

805
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: in uh in my sock drawer. They almost got thrown

806
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: away one time when they move, you know. But was

807
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: it me and you that were talking about this weekend

808
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: where uh, you know, somebody was like, did you get

809
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: burnt out? Is why you quit or retired?

810
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: I was in the conversation, but I was just listening.

811
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot Maybe it was Zach, but I said,

812
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: I just got to the point where it wasn't enjoyable

813
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: anymore because and I and I heard I think his

814
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: man in the arena, Brady, talking about it where it

815
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: was like when you won, it was expected and so

816
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: there was no real celebration. It was like relief where

817
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, thank God, and so we then you know,

818
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: there was no It got to the point where it

819
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: wasn't I don't want to say it wasn't fun to

820
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: win or you know, compete, but it was like it

821
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: was so expected, and once again, I like, we did

822
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: that to ourselves and I did that to myself that

823
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: it was expected, and it's not a complaint, but it

824
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: just got to the point where you're like, Okay, I'm

825
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: done just being like content with finishing. First, as lame

826
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: as that sounds, because that's where we were at competing,

827
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: and then you're just like it's almost like, and I've

828
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 3: said it multiple times, like as a kid at Christmas,

829
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: you get most of the things you want and then

830
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: you're all you're like, oh man, it's a year till

831
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: Christmas next year, you know. And so like that was

832
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: early on in my career, and then towards the end,

833
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: it was like when we would finish, I'm like, oh,

834
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 3: thank god, you know, because even when we'd lose an event,

835
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, you know whatever, but you know,

836
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: we'd win the games and it's still people were just like, ah,

837
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: man was supposed to win, but if we lost, then

838
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: it was going to be some big thing. And so

839
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: I just got tired of that, and it was time,

840
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: you know, I was old.

841
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what was the Did that

842
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: make it more stressful? Because I was never at a

843
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: point kind of like where you I remember watching as

844
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: do that, and it was it was as like an

845
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: outside perspective was.

846
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: Like, there we go again.

847
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: Win, you know, like cool, and it wasn't like roading

848
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: against you, but you knew, oh yeah, he's gonna win.

849
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: He's like he's so good. Right. Did that put more

850
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: pressure on you?

851
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

852
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: Throughout the years, I.

853
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Liked the pressure, you know, like it is you know,

854
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: you want to be that person versus the person you know.

855
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: Early on the first year or two, it was like

856
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: I was aiming for something, and then after that it

857
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: was like don't anybody catch you? Yeah, and you know

858
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: for ten years that's it just takes not a bad toll.

859
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: But you're just like, all right, I'm done. You know,

860
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah, no, man, I mean

861
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: there was that was the pressure of like, and I

862
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: it was good pressure. I don't want to say, you know,

863
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 3: there'd be worse pressure of like trying to win. Yeah,

864
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: it was good pressure, but yeah, it just got to

865
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: the point where you're like it was relief instead of celebration,

866
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. And so you're just like, all right,

867
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm done. I had enough, and so it was time

868
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: for new challenges and new things to like, you know,

869
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: Leadville doing that twice. Jeff knows how that is. And

870
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: it's just so far out of my comfort zone and

871
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: who I am as an athlete, and you're probably the

872
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: same where we're power output athletes. And then you're like,

873
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: all right, go ride a bike for nine hours and

874
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: ten thousand feet of altitude. It's so far out of

875
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: who I am, and so you know, and then now

876
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: hunting and then doing these other random which did a

877
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: twenty four hour mountain bike in Amarillo, and you know,

878
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: I still need challenges. I'm not sure where you are

879
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: on your faith, but I'm like, like David in the Bible,

880
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 3: like I connect with so much because you know, there's

881
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: the verse in Second Samuel where says at a time

882
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: when kings normally go to war, David stayed back or

883
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: he sent his generals, and you're that's when the bath

884
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: cheapest stuff happened. And you're just like, I need to

885
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: have a focus or a target or something to train

886
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: for because or else I'm just kind of worthless, like

887
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: wandering around like with my tail between my legs, like, oh,

888
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: you know, like what am I doing? What? You know?

889
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: So I need purpose. I think men in general need purpose.

890
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: Joby Martin, who I listen to a lot, you know,

891
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 3: he talks about a semi without a load is the

892
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: most dangerous vehicle on the road. And so like men need,

893
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: we need like people complaining and all this mental health

894
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: stuff of like oh pressure and men supporting. That's what

895
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: we're supposed to do. That's what we're called to do.

896
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: It's what we were made to do, is support and

897
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: and give me more, right, And that was that way

898
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: as a competitor. I was like more events, the better,

899
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: you know, Like I'm I'm a mule, right Like I'm

900
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: just gonna keep taking stuff. And I'm like I need

901
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: to keep doing that in life too, where it's like

902
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: don't ask for less as for more.

903
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: Every timesponsibility and come across guys men that like don't

904
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: really have a purpose and aren't really like looking for one.

905
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: It did, like it it doesn't click with me, Like

906
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, how is that possible? I am always searching

907
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: for them, always searching.

908
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and then we talk about doing hard things

909
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: and doing things outside our comfort zone, and like people

910
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 3: that are just like, oh, I'm good, Yeah I quit,

911
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: and I'm just like twenty four hour challenge. You're gonna

912
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: do the twenty four hours, you know, like and it's terrible, Like,

913
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, Like the last six to eight

914
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: hours or like even the middle six to eight are

915
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: probably the worst. You're like, why am I doing this?

916
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: And I'm not doing this next year? And then you

917
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: finish it and you're like, all right, we'll do it

918
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: next year. This you know, like it's it's almost a

919
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: privilege to get to do that, right and and get

920
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: outside the comfort zone because guess what, it has an end.

921
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: There's people out there that there is no end to

922
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: that suffering, right, So I don't know, man, I just

923
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: it's first world problems for sure. Of Like, hey, I

924
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: get to go seek Out Challenge and that's the way

925
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: I look at hunting for sure. Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

926
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. There's a run in Reno

927
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: and you run actually all the way around Tahou so

928
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: you're start and know you go up, oh you have

929
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: like south Lake, Carson City back to a Rena. It's

930
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: gonna beautiful and it's it's really cool, and you can

931
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: do it in an ultra where you have six people

932
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: or a regular team where you have twelve. I think

933
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: our team had twelve. One person dropped out. My buddy's

934
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: called me like the day before and like, hey, do

935
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: you want to come run this race? I was sorry,

936
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: let's go, and it was it was like Emerald Day

937
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: up in Tahoe, ten thirty at night and I'm running

938
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: up this hill and I'm like, what the.

939
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 3: What am I doing doing?

940
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: Like why am I doing this? I'm like, just don't stop.

941
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: And then you get there and it was like, what

942
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: are you ever going to run at ten thirty at

943
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: night in the middle of Tahoe, like and the cool lights.

944
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: I was like, as long as I'm getting by a

945
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: bear And it's one of those things. You finished and

946
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: you're exhausted and you're like, that was awesome.

947
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: That was man. Middle of the night. You're in this

948
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: beautiful canyon, the moon is just bright, and you're just

949
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: like this is awfully awesome. You know, it's so bad,

950
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: but it's so good at the same time. And then

951
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: we did that twenty four hour run here so we'll

952
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: get your contact. You have to jump in on Oh

953
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: my gosh, I do a bunch of random stuff at

954
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: this point now where it's just you know, stupid but.

955
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: Keeps the nice sharp Yeah it does.

956
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure that's mentally. You need to have those every

957
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: once in a while to be like, all right, can

958
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: I still you know, can I still battle those demons?

959
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: We joked, you know, like I always joke it. And

960
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: at night the demons come out because they do, like

961
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: at something about that dark time. You're like, man, I

962
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: can't do this, and the sun comes up, You're like, okay,

963
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm back.

964
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: The demons come out during that solo when you're in.

965
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: That see that's me. I'm like, I need I need

966
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: one other person to fall back on, at least complain to,

967
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, like jokingly, like I've never quit, but I'm

968
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: gonna complain about it. You know.

969
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: It sucks elk here?

970
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? You know? And then you

971
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 3: know I'm back. You know, you need it. One complaint

972
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: every couple of days, like usually every third day, like

973
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: this sucks? Why am I doing this? I'm spending this

974
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: money away from my family. What are we doing out here?

975
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: And then you get one like spot of an elk

976
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: and you're like, Okay, I'm back one.

977
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: Get one bullshit, Like when you're fishing, you get a bite,

978
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm back.

979
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm take that little hit. Maybe we're just addicts, that's funny.

980
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I tell my dad the same thing, that do the

981
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: hard things, you know, and he's I love him to death.

982
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: He runs desin cardio. I'm trying to get him to

983
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: do more weights. You know. He loves stock market, so

984
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: he's always kind of like, you know, he's a finance guy,

985
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: very financial guy, and he's awesome. And he when he

986
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: came on my elk hunt, we both have the meat

987
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: on the back and it was not far from where

988
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: our side by side was. It was three hundred yards.

989
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: Three hundred yards was directly up and so we're like

990
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: literally on our hands and feet trying to like get

991
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: up the slippery rock and it's most frustrating part of dude.

992
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: It was so and he just I remember, he's like

993
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: sweating and pulling over and he's like, looks at me.

994
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: He's like does this count as hard things? And I

995
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, yes, that's why we do it. It was hilarious.

996
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: Check in.

997
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was awesome.

998
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: So walk me through. I don't know this success of

999
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: your first that hunt, like how it happened, like you know,

1000
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: walks through it.

1001
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. My first one was the meal Deer. So I

1002
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: had meal Deer and bull Elk last year, so I

1003
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: knew it was a big year. And I almost turned

1004
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: in my bull Elk because I was in a party

1005
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: tag with cow Elk with some buddies and they're like,

1006
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: we drew cow tag and I'm like mine says like unsuccessful,

1007
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't what we were in a party U.

1008
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Western draw system is a is freaking like

1009
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: Zach Galfanakis and just like I don't understand it.

1010
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: See that's I understand it now that I've been in it.

1011
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: It's all the other ones. Like he was just saying, oh,

1012
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: you got to put in my.

1013
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: Why we hire something we used the draw because this

1014
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 3: is what it is.

1015
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: That's sick.

1016
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1017
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: But so then I looked down and it's like bull

1018
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: Elk successful and I was like, oh, ship, that's why.

1019
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: It's because I got bull Elk. But I'm like I

1020
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: should turn it in. They're like, no, we'ren't doing it.

1021
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I was like okay, cool. So I really geared up.

1022
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: But the first one was U the old deer and

1023
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: I went out with my cousin and my uncle there

1024
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: from the area. So they put us on some some

1025
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: good deer and he had a deer he was kind

1026
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: of going after, and so it was fun. Man. We

1027
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: were in the deer like every day, which was I

1028
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: was not used.

1029
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: To with a bow. Dang, that's cool.

1030
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was cool, like at least seeing gear,

1031
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: you know. And then we finally would put on a

1032
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: few stops here and there, and I was just like,

1033
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I just want to be successful, and he's like I.

1034
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: Want, I want that giant deer and yeah.

1035
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: You know. So it was cool. Finally day like three

1036
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: or four, I think day four, and I only had

1037
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: two more days after that.

1038
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, back up stocks, how many stocks are you in

1039
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: at this point. I don't care about days. I care about.

1040
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: Unsuccessful probably like at least like three or four.

1041
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Dang, all right, cool and.

1042
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: One was kind of cool. There's this big like I

1043
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: know it sounds stupid. It was like a fok and horn,

1044
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: but he was really wide.

1045
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were talking to somebody that like, if it's legal,

1046
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shoot it.

1047
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: And especially at that point right I was telling Angela

1048
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: this the other day. I told him like, no, I

1049
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: think about it. I don't think I've actually successfully passed.

1050
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 3: Legal animal shot.

1051
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: If you don't take the opportunity, you're never going to

1052
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: be successful.

1053
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1054
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: I was on that one and I got in probably

1055
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: they were in this little like ravine and I thought

1056
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I aimed or I you know, I got my range

1057
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: and it was like fifty sixty yards and I saw

1058
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: one bedded here and one here, and I'm like, okay,

1059
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: they're in here somewhere right of course. Like I just

1060
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: try to like pop up over this rock and just

1061
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: take another peek, and he's just looking at it.

1062
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not a good feeling.

1063
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Dang it. And he stands up and I just slowly

1064
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: sit down, you know, I'm trying to be calm, like

1065
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give him fifteen minutes. Two minutes later

1066
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: out here, you know, I'm like busted. And then a

1067
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: couple of minutes later they're all running over something.

1068
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: Oh.

1069
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: So I was getting to the point where they're like,

1070
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: I just want to be successful.

1071
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Sure.

1072
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: In that day, we woke up, we're out just kind

1073
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: of cruising around and I spot some in velvet, which

1074
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: was cool. Couple like they think there's like three or

1075
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: four in this little little group, and there was one

1076
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: small four by four. So it's like, all right, that's

1077
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: I'll go for at least the biggest one of this

1078
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: this group. Pretty cool. They went and bedded in some

1079
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: real thick, big sage brush brush, and so I went

1080
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: with my uncle. My uncle's like, okay, I'm gonna go

1081
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: with you until you want to show you, you know,

1082
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: And so we you know, we're making landmarks and stuff,

1083
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: and we get up on this ridge and he's like, okay,

1084
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: we're going to get in like probably like ten feet

1085
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: above these things. So he's like, when you're shooting at

1086
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: like three yards just shooting your thirty five, you're forty,

1087
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: what are you shooting? I'm like, I mean usually if

1088
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: it's a couple of yards a way, I'm using my

1089
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: twenty yard pin. He's like really, I'm like, now you're

1090
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: making me nervous. I mean, there's some science, there's some

1091
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: science to it, right, but I've shot some close targets

1092
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: with my twenty and it was like it if it's

1093
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: not right in front of me, I'll be okay. So

1094
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: I was nervous about that, but we get right on

1095
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: top of them.

1096
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: Do you think in the arch the arch at first?

1097
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it starts high. So when I've done this

1098
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: attack events where there's this there's three yards like all

1099
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: the way standing down, I put my top pin at

1100
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: fifty yards and it just gave me a true bullet.

1101
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Isn't there some science behind if you use your

1102
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: fifty pin on from like an aim low anyway? We

1103
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: can get into that, but.

1104
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the artist story, it's it's the the gap in

1105
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: the arrow flight is always going to be within a

1106
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: vital of an animal if you.

1107
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: Aim at the armpit basically from fifty from twenty to

1108
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: fifty or.

1109
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: Something like that or that practice this fall.

1110
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, So you're above these things.

1111
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're right over him. So I'm up on

1112
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: like this cliff face and I'm just kneeling down. And

1113
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: at this point I had a tearing my meniscus from

1114
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu in there, right, So I'm trying to kneel

1115
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: and I can can't, but I can't because I don't

1116
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: slide out. I'm like, oh man, So I get as

1117
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: comfortable as I can. I'm sitting on the boot of

1118
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: my Crispy and one foot's up and and we're just

1119
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: ranging everything and he's like shoot, like what trying to

1120
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: look over and he's standing. He's standing staring at me.

1121
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: So I draw back. They run. You try to get

1122
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: him to stop. They stop it, look at me and

1123
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: he luckily, he was smart enough to range more than

1124
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: I did, and he's like thirty five yards. So I

1125
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: just put my thirty up a little high on the

1126
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: back and shot. Unfortunately. I don't know if it was

1127
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: like my third access or what, but I shot back.

1128
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: So but it smoked him, like elevation was good, just back,

1129
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: and I was like left, dang it. It was actually

1130
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: a little bit right because he was going straight away

1131
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, dang it. So we wait, we wait.

1132
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: We see him going over this hill and he beds down,

1133
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: we assumed, so we try to track him. Can't really

1134
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: find a lot of track. We're looking, and all of

1135
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, we bust him and he runs to

1136
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: this other part of the hill. I'm like, all right,

1137
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: like we gotta get him or we're gonna keep pushing him,

1138
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, So we take I think I took one

1139
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: more shot from there and it hit him back again,

1140
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: and I was like this is just terrible. Like I'm

1141
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: feeling bad. I'm like, I shouldn't have even done this,

1142
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and I went to I went to tax

1143
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: I was shooting all it, you know, and so you're

1144
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: just like, I should have just never done this. I

1145
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: feeling killed. And then again finally, you know, he's obviously hurting,

1146
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were like, if you just

1147
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: let him like sit with the backshot the first one,

1148
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: he probably would have died. I'm like, I don't know,

1149
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: probably right, and I just want him to end fast

1150
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: and appropriate.

1151
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: Right.

1152
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: So then he goes in beds again about forty five

1153
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: and we got the job done, guys, and they're like, oh,

1154
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: there you go. And I was like that sucked, and

1155
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, that was a little wild, you know,

1156
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: but he's like congrats, man like, and eventually I kind

1157
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: of calmed down, like motion of it. Yeah, and it

1158
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: was like okay, like it was an experience and he's like,

1159
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: if you can deal with that, you can bow hunt.

1160
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: You'll be good. And he's like so, but then, I mean,

1161
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: and it made me go back and want to train,

1162
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, even more, shoot more uncomfortable all of it,

1163
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, and went and shot with dan shape. That

1164
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable and that's kind of how we got linked

1165
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: up and stuff. But yeah, so that was that one. Unfortunately,

1166
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: ELK a lot better. So we were, you know, we

1167
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: had gotten some stocks on and when my buddies were there,

1168
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: we knew they were in the area. They just were quiet,

1169
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: like they would tarely quiet. So you see him in

1170
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: the morning for an hour maybe, and then they disappear

1171
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: in the pine trees and they're just gone. And so

1172
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: we were getting some stocks. We still hunted. One still hunt.

1173
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: We're down there and I'm being real quiet, just cow calling,

1174
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: caw call, move stop, cow cal stop, you know, and

1175
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: just waiting, and all of a sudden, my buddy puts

1176
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: his hand on me and we just duck down under

1177
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: this tree investigating thirteen yards away, big like five by

1178
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: six or six by six, just staring at us. And

1179
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I had no shot because there was

1180
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: a branch in the way and there slowly walks away.

1181
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: He just came out of nowhere.

1182
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: Didn't hear him nothing.

1183
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: About the middle of the day, probably checking on seeing

1184
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: what's going on.

1185
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what he said. He's like, they're either

1186
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: gonna come barreling in. You're not going to hear anything

1187
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: in there right there, and that it was. He was

1188
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: right on yep and in there. Yeah, that was.

1189
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: I would hate to hearbod when people are like, oh,

1190
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: thirteen yards you didn't have a shot.

1191
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: In there, dude, And yeah it was thick you know,

1192
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: your thick country smoke brush or whatever. Yeah, it was

1193
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: a wall. I was up in pine trees and aspens

1194
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: and it was or you can't get a shot. You

1195
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: can see right if you're in there. You can kind

1196
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: of see once you're looking out. It's hard. But yeah,

1197
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: then that last day, super awesome. My dad gets there.

1198
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: We actually had some work to do, and he stayed

1199
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: up a little later, finished some of that. I'm we

1200
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: get up early. I'm like, all right, we're going to

1201
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: this spot, this is where we've seen him. And luckily

1202
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: that morning we get there and we hear and I'm like, yes,

1203
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: they're like talking. Now we had some cold weather come in.

1204
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: I was like perfect, and so I'm cow calling and

1205
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: he calls back, but he's like two or three ridges over,

1206
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think he's I think he's hearing me.

1207
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: So I keep doing it and it's getting louder and louder,

1208
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: and finally I see there's two one big big bull

1209
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: and one I think satellite bowl behind him, and uh,

1210
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: I was like sweet, like, I think they're coming in

1211
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: and they come on this ridge. They kind of go

1212
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: around and I got a right bugle mount, which is

1213
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of cool. Uh, just because as he was going

1214
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: back into this kind of like valley, a cow call,

1215
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: he looks back and I have it on video and

1216
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: a few goals at me. But then he keeps walking.

1217
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, so we got to get over here.

1218
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: More so we move over. We're watching them, these two bulls.

1219
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm like that it's gonna take me an hour to

1220
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: get around to the top of that ridge and then

1221
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: drop down and they're probably not gonna be there or

1222
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know. Kept cow calling,

1223
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: and then he starts coming back. I'm like, okay, this

1224
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: is cool. It was like, if he hits those trees,

1225
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: he's coming down and he's coming to me. I think

1226
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: this guy's playing. That's exactly what happened. He just kept coming,

1227
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: kept coming, and so I dropped down into the aspens

1228
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: where there was kind of an open field where I

1229
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: could get a shot ranged everything, and I'm hiding behind

1230
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: some pine tree right here with the open sagebrush in

1231
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: front of me, and Sure's crap. My Dad's like he's

1232
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: down in there somewhere, and I'm like, cause he's up top,

1233
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: just you know, radioing me. Sure thirty five yards away

1234
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: straight on. He pops out and I'm like, well, I'm thinking, crap,

1235
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna come right right right to me. Yeah, you

1236
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: know so. I right before he'd popped out, I did

1237
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: one more cow call, trying to make it turn a

1238
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: little sound over there a little bit, and it was

1239
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: just perfect. He just walks, you know, thirty five yards down.

1240
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: He starts angling straight towards in front of me and

1241
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: going like up the hill, trying to figure out where

1242
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: this is. How is It's like, no way this is

1243
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I'm like, why is this working right now?

1244
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm like this is awesome, but you know, competitive side

1245
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: of you is just like you're locked in. I almost

1246
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: feel better in that motion then, Like when I went

1247
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: and shot with Dan, I was like nervous. I'm like,

1248
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, what is this? I felt pretty calm,

1249
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: pretty good, and I'm like okay, and he kind of

1250
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: crossed that aspen that was in front of me. So

1251
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: I drew back and little he looks at me, and

1252
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm just like my twenties, right, and he was only

1253
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty yards probably nice. Just I double lung

1254
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: and he turns and runs, and I'm just telling my dad,

1255
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: like I think I got him. It had to be

1256
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: a good shot. I think I got him. And I'm

1257
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: just like trying to like calm down. I'm like shaking,

1258
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like downhill. So I'm like, if

1259
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: he gets out of here, he's gone, like if he's

1260
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: not hurt, you know. And so I gave it some

1261
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: time and kind of hike out and around to see

1262
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: if I could spot him. And I see his antlers

1263
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: kind of look like he's laying down, and so I'm

1264
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: giving some cow call, see if there's any movement. I wait,

1265
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dad, I think we got him. Man, like,

1266
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: can you bring empty my pack and just bring it down?

1267
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: Bring the knives? And my dad, I love him to death.

1268
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: But he was slow, and I was like I can't

1269
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: do this, Dad, and like I'm going in. So I

1270
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: just slowly sneak in. Got some video of that, and

1271
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: he was, yeah, he was out perfect. Oh yeah, it was, Yeah,

1272
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: it was. It was so cool. It was like picture perfect,

1273
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: like a movie. And my dad was there to watch it.

1274
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: He's like, he's like he was so impressed. He's like,

1275
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: I can't believe you just did that. He's like that

1276
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: was insane, Like everything you said he did and it worked.

1277
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I was like, it doesn't work. I had plenty of yeah,

1278
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: but it was. It was pretty sick. So it was fun.

1279
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: The last question for both of you guys, when it

1280
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: finally comes together, right, how does it come like compare

1281
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 2: to I don't know, winning an event or winning the games,

1282
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: or sticking sticking the skill that you finally how does

1283
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: it compare?

1284
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: I think just the same. To me, it was like, yeah,

1285
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: and nobody's watching, right, it's yeah, you don't well, you

1286
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: don't have the failure. Like people don't see the failure

1287
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: as much. But dude, man, every time I've killed a

1288
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: bull or killed even white tail at I'm like, this

1289
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: is awesome and that's what keeps you coming back to

1290
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: one percent?

1291
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing. I was just like, I don't like

1292
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: you said, you don't really get it. I didn't necessarily

1293
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: cry I was close to it now, but I was

1294
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: just like, you know, especially with the seven year wead

1295
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I was like, you.

1296
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: Got it done.

1297
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully with seven years at least the hunting's good

1298
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: like you would think in theory. Yeah, people aren't in

1299
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: there as much. The hunting's higher quality for sure, but

1300
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: it was awesome.

1301
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1302
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: For me, it's always like right after the the air

1303
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: was shot or the gun is shot, that's like the

1304
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: big relief, like, oh my gosh, well yeah the hunt

1305
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: is over and you can like start or like go

1306
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: find it. And then obviously the after the pack out

1307
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: is like the big relief.

1308
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't mind the pack out. I'm like, I

1309
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: don't care, I'll pack my out.

1310
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: It sucks, but this is worth every.

1311
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: Second, every step of it. Yeah. Sweet well, Jake Man,

1312
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: it's been awesome. Yeah, thank you to get on a

1313
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: hunt together and it'll be fun. That would like you'd

1314
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: be one of our people.

1315
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be super fun. Appreciate it. Thanks for having

1316
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: me absolutely awesome.

1317
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: Yeah heck yeah, dude, appreciate it.

1318
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much