WEBVTT - The Golf Lesson Checklist

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Bitch podcast. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Claude harmon a solo episode of the pod this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought i'd kind of go over some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm actually in Dubai at my academy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is always fun. It's over here the other night, but

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke at the Titleist Performance Institute World Golf Fitness

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<v Speaker 1>Summit on Friday, kind of did a presentation, but wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go through one of the things that I talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>which was kind of my checklist when I'm giving golf

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<v Speaker 1>lessons right what I'm looking for and how I look

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<v Speaker 1>at golf swings, and I think by doing this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it can help you think about your own golf

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<v Speaker 1>swing and your own golf game. So the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do when a player comes in and I watch

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<v Speaker 1>a player hit at golf balls, I always think, what

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<v Speaker 1>is that player's DNA or their kind of swing signature.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, player, regardless of your handicap, you will

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<v Speaker 1>have something that is kind of your DNA, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you swing the golf club. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of times this is why players struggle

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<v Speaker 1>over years of and they tend to struggle when they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>when they don't get regular golf lessons and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>working on something, they're just trying a bunch of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't really fundamentally understand kind of what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that they do. So when I look at a

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing and I look at a player, I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>ask a couple of things. But one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask is tell me what you're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the golf swing, and tell me why you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do this in the golf swing. And that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>and should be a pretty simple question and should be

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty simple answer. But I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>players they don't really know what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They struggle with the concept of what they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, and I've talked about this on the pod before,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't understand what their body can do as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I look at a player, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, Okay, what does that player do naturally. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that my dad talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about when I was a young instructor, he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever want to take away what a player

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<v Speaker 1>does naturally. And I think a lot of times for

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<v Speaker 1>the instructors out there listening. You can have a model

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<v Speaker 1>in your head maybe right, I'm not a huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but you can have a model in your

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<v Speaker 1>head about how you want everyone to swing the golf club.

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<v Speaker 1>The only problem with that is you might be taking

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<v Speaker 1>away what a player does naturally, and what they do

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<v Speaker 1>naturally could be a huge part of what makes them

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<v Speaker 1>who they are. So I'm always looking at a player.

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<v Speaker 1>Does a player have a tremendous amount of speed? Does

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<v Speaker 1>a player not have a lot of so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of work. I'll give you an example. So there's two

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<v Speaker 1>players I work with who have a tremendous amount of speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks and DJ on the men's side have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of speed. I work with a player on the

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<v Speaker 1>LPGA Tour named Marina Alex. She played on the Solheim Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a multiple winner on the LPGA Tour. Marina doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of speed, right, Marina's back is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit compromised. She's had some back issues. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of things that Marina does naturally that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, physically I can't change, even though I might

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<v Speaker 1>not like them. It's just she does certain things in

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<v Speaker 1>the golf swing. Her body has some limitations, so there

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<v Speaker 1>are some things that she does that are just part

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<v Speaker 1>of her golf swing and if I try and change those.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously everybody is trying to hit the golf

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<v Speaker 1>ball further, but on the LPGA Tour, distance is a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a differentiator. So the obvious thing in watching Marina

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<v Speaker 1>hit GoF balls is to say, Okay, she needs hit

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball further. So there are loads of different things, now,

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<v Speaker 1>speed sticks, stacked, all of these different things that we

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<v Speaker 1>could do to try and help Marina hit the golf

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<v Speaker 1>ball further. We do all those things, her back's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go down, it's gonna crash. So I have to take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what she does physically. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at what she does naturally. Dustin Johnson's

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<v Speaker 1>another great example. The position he gets into at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of his backswing with that flat left wrist. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what he does naturally that he doesn't know why

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<v Speaker 1>he does that. He's never been taught to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what he does in the golf swing. So

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, probably I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when my dad started working with DJ. Phil Michelson said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I play a lot of golf with DJ. Has been

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<v Speaker 1>my partner in the money game. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at him. My dad was working with Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think everybody looked at DJ's golf swing when

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<v Speaker 1>he turned pro, looked at that position at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the back swing. Nobody was really playing from that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe back in the day Paul Aigsner from there, but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly nobody with a tremendous amount of speed. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think in looking at his goal swing, my dad looked

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<v Speaker 1>at that left risk position and was like, listen, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what DJ does. Naturally. I'm not training him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not teaching him to do that. That's what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a risk position in twenty twenty four that I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are trying to get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Brooks is a little bit on the shut side.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ is a little bit on the shut side. We

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing more players play from that position. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what DJ does naturally. No one's teaching him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing I'm always looking at with a player

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm asking as say, Okay, what does this player

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<v Speaker 1>need do they need speed, do they need accuracy? Do

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<v Speaker 1>they need consistency? There will be something that the player needs,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm always saying, Okay, do they need to hit it?

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<v Speaker 1>So again, using Marine Alex is an example, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>had her on the pod as well. Marina needs speed.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is we have to work around that given

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<v Speaker 1>what her body can do physically. So I'm always trying

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<v Speaker 1>to balance that between what a player wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>versus what a player does and what a player can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I think players just it's a concept issue. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't know they're supposed to be doing this. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>know they're not supposed to be doing this. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that first question, Hey, tell me what you do

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<v Speaker 1>in the golf swing, what you're trying to do in

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<v Speaker 1>the golf swing. Sometimes they'll just be a concept problem. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know you're not supposed to do that, or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know you're supposed to do this. Sometimes it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a body issue. So the physical screen, getting screen

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what your body can and can't do naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is huge. I'm always asking myself how much

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<v Speaker 1>is too much? Meaning I think it's important as an

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<v Speaker 1>instructure to understand the type of learner a person is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I learn a lot by asking questions about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do for a living? Listen, if you

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<v Speaker 1>work with somebody that says, oh, I'm an engineer, you

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<v Speaker 1>can probably give them a bunch of data and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to confuse them because that's the world they

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<v Speaker 1>live in. But if somebody doesn't have a brain like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you overload them with tons of launch monitor data

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<v Speaker 1>or a bunch of information and a bunch of numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't learn like that. I've worked with two

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<v Speaker 1>players that are on opposite ends of the spectrum, so

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Immerman. When I worked with Trevor in the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, I couldn't give Trevor enough information, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>the way his brain worked. He wanted as much information

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. DJ wants things to be pretty simple. His

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<v Speaker 1>brain just isn't wired like that, is not wired to

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<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of information. He wants things to be simple. Trevor,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, wanted I wouldn't say Trevor wanted

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<v Speaker 1>things to be complicated in the years that I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with him, but Trevor wanted more information. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>could give I mean information for Trevor was crack for

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<v Speaker 1>the crack addict. Just give me more, more, more, more more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily think at times that was the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing for him and his career. If I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to overload DJ with a bunch of information and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of numbers and data and stuff like that, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the way his brain works. So with regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the player, I'm always asking myself, Okay, how much

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<v Speaker 1>is too much? How much is too little. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm really trying to do when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>golf swings is as an instructor. If I'm working with

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<v Speaker 1>the player, I want to try and help them build

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<v Speaker 1>the golf swing that is going to hold up under pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>For the tour players that I'm incredibly lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 1>work with, that is the back nine on Sunday right,

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<v Speaker 1>that is coming down the stretch in a major, that

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to win a tournament on a tour somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. For the majority of you listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, pressure is trying to break one hundred for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, trying to break ninety for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to break eighty for the first time, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win the club championship, the city amateur. So pressure comes

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<v Speaker 1>and is different for everybody, but pressure's pressure, right. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at golf swings, I'm always thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I doing to help this person while they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the golf course. I'm not thinking about how to

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<v Speaker 1>make their golf swing look good on the driving range, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not thinking about a model in my head that

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<v Speaker 1>I have a specific swing model that I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get everybody into. So for the instructors

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but also for everyone else listening that's playing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you aren't working on things in your golf swing

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to help you score and perform better

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<v Speaker 1>on the golf course, you're wasting your time. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I say that is I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to have their golf swing look better. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with Graham McDowell when he just turned pro,

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<v Speaker 1>probably Gosh two thousand and three, two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>won the Italian Open. But I worked with Graham in

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<v Speaker 1>two stints. I worked with them for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>then he moved on to another instructure, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>like five six he came back to me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try and work with you again and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got some video somewhere that I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find. I've got pictures of Graham McDowell looking like

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger in two thousand, right knee flexed, club online at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, club face dead, neutral, left wrist in a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect position. Looking at it on TV, the video looked

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<v Speaker 1>like Tiger Woods in two thousand. The only problem was

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<v Speaker 1>from that position Gmac could not get the club onto

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, couldn't make contact. Looked great on film, looked

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<v Speaker 1>great on video. Positions were perfect, just couldn't hit the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball from there. So, when you're looking at your

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing, aesthetics or function, I am far more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in function than I am in aesthetics. Esthetics are the

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<v Speaker 1>way a golf swing looks and the style of a

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing. But golf is not figure skating, right, Golf

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<v Speaker 1>is not gymnastics. There's not judges saying, oh, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the best looking golf swing. If that was the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Scott, Nellie Corda, Tommy Fleetwood, the people that have

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully fundamentally sound golf swings that look really, really good,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd win all the time, but they don't. Across the gamut,

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<v Speaker 1>there's golf swings that are very, very different that are

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<v Speaker 1>winning golf tournaments. There's not one specific way to swing

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<v Speaker 1>the golf club. If you look at the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go to the World Golf Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>and you go and look at all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>have been inducted, is there anybody out there listening that's

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<v Speaker 1>a golf instructor that has a junior golfer, female junior

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<v Speaker 1>golfer fifteen sixteen, Is anybody trying to teach her to

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<v Speaker 1>swing the golf club like on Akasians damp the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>golf female golfer of all time, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>golfers of all time. No one's trying to do that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>No one's trying to teach any I don't see anybody

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. I don't see anything on social media where

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<v Speaker 1>people are trying to have everybody swing like on a

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<v Speaker 1>Coasorians dam right. I don't see anybody teaching putting like

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Nicholas putted, one of the greatest putters of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's one of the greatest putters of all time. Jack's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest pressure putters of all time. But

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<v Speaker 1>nobody is trying to emulate that, right, but under pressure

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<v Speaker 1>Jack made every put So my point behind that is

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<v Speaker 1>your golf swing has to be functional. Yeah, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>great if your golf swing looked good, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite golf swings don't necessarily look that great, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are one hundred functional. Great example would be Bubba Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody trying to swing the golf club like Bubba Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody trying to swing the golf club and shape it

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<v Speaker 1>and curve it like Bubba Watson. Nope, guys won two Masters,

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<v Speaker 1>Guy's got two Green jackets, been on Ryder Cups, He's

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<v Speaker 1>been on President's Cups, a hell of a player, has

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<v Speaker 1>had a hell of a career. But again, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to swing like that. No one's trying to actively

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<v Speaker 1>work on the things that Bubba Watson does. But under

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<v Speaker 1>Pressure won two majors, one two Masters. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking lessons, if you're working on your own game, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to think of it like this, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>working on in Will it help me score on the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course? Not will it make my golf swing look better?

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<v Speaker 1>On video will make it look better on the range

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<v Speaker 1>because none of that matters for the instructors out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Build a team, right, Build a team around you. Find

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<v Speaker 1>a physio, chiropractor, medical in your area. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have players, I think the guy Greg and Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Rose and Dave Phillips, both who've been on the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can go check them out the work that

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<v Speaker 1>they've done at the Titleist Performance Institute. They were big

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<v Speaker 1>on that, right, Create a team. So I'm currently at

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<v Speaker 1>my academy in Dubai. I have seven full time instructors

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<v Speaker 1>here and we have two full time fitness guys. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's mandatory for us. At my academy, at my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>academy in Florida, at the Floridian where I work, we

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<v Speaker 1>have instructors and then we have a fitness guy. Just

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<v Speaker 1>open up an academy out in Bangkok. We're in the

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<v Speaker 1>process of hiring. So we're building a team of people

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<v Speaker 1>around us. You want to work. If I'm taking lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to find an instructor that if there's something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with my body, he's got somebody that he can

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<v Speaker 1>send me to. If I'm doing something in my golf swing,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in pain hitting golf balls. He's got somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I can go to. So I think building a

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<v Speaker 1>team as an instructor, building a core group of people

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<v Speaker 1>around you hugely important. I'm always trying to build a

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<v Speaker 1>strength with players, right. I think in order to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good golfer, you've got to have a strength, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say that at the elite tour level. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the best players in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have a strength, right, and their calling card

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<v Speaker 1>is that strength. Brad faxon great putter, Patrick Reid, Sevy,

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<v Speaker 1>bi Astero's unbelievable short game, Rory DJ Brooks. The strength

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<v Speaker 1>is speed the driver, Luke Donald unbelievable wedge player. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're looking at your own game, think about

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a strength? Right? And I listen, when

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at strengths with players, I really don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what that strength is. Are you a good green reader

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a strength. Are you a good win

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<v Speaker 1>player that could be a strength, Or you a good

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<v Speaker 1>bunker player that could be your strength? Right? And then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that strength and you try and ride that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you're a really good wedge player, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna want to try and lay up to where

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<v Speaker 1>you lay up to your strength. Right. If you're a

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<v Speaker 1>great putter, you're gonna try and hit more greens so

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<v Speaker 1>you can take advantage of your putting. Right. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a great putter, if your short game isn't great, right,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got to try and hit more greens. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I also when players come in and take a

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<v Speaker 1>golf lesson for the first time, I try and find

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<v Speaker 1>something in their golf swing that's a strength. Hey you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a great grip, that's the strength of yours. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a great setup. You've got great posture, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got great tempo, you've got great rhythm. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's easy for me in a golf

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<v Speaker 1>lesson to look at a twenty five handicapper and tell

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<v Speaker 1>them all the things are doing wrong, right. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to find some things. Hey, listen, I really like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things in your golf swing. We just

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<v Speaker 1>need to clean up a couple of other things. But

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<v Speaker 1>you do a lot of really good things in the

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing. And when I say that to a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty handicapper, hey, I think you do some really nice

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<v Speaker 1>things good things in the golf swing. They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I twenty five handicap? Why am I still

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen? Right? Then I can say, well, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the problems, but you do this really really well, so

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you keep doing that really really well. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I look at when I look at players,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that I've talked about before on the pod,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will continue to talk about it because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's hugely important. Start line where the golf ball

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<v Speaker 1>is starting. When I'm looking at a player, I am

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<v Speaker 1>evaluating how good a player they are on their ability

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<v Speaker 1>to start the golf ball in the direction it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to start for the shape they're telling me they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hit. So if a player is trying to hit draws,

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<v Speaker 1>and we give them a target and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take a seven iron out. You know it's

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty yards one hundred and forty yards

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<v Speaker 1>hundred However, are you hit a seven iron? Right? What

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<v Speaker 1>shape you hit? And I do this before I tell

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<v Speaker 1>them anything, right, I do this at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>a golf lesson. Watch a player hit some balls. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have them watched some you know, once they get warmed up. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hit me some seven irons. Tell me what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do. What kind of shape you are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to play? What kind of shape do you like to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the miss what's the contact like on the golf course? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really like to try and draw the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball. All right? Cool? Okay, So there's the target

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<v Speaker 1>flag and then we're gonna give you ten balls. And

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I'm going to ask you to do

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<v Speaker 1>in these ten balls is can you start all ten

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<v Speaker 1>of them to the right? If you're a fader of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball, Hey, you like to hit fades? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pick out a target, give you seven iron,

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<v Speaker 1>give you eight iron, whatever the club, and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>just hit me ten balls. And the only task here

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<v Speaker 1>is all ten of them start. If you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fade it, all ten of them start left of the

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<v Speaker 1>target right. So I'm as much interested in that as

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<v Speaker 1>to how their golf swing looks right and how they're

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, can you just concept wise what

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<v Speaker 1>would you need to do? I take a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>video and I'll show a player. Okay, let's say you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to draw the golf ball and the club's working

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<v Speaker 1>very much on the outside on the takeaway. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we go to try and have you hit more of

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<v Speaker 1>a draw and feel like the club works maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more on the inside so that it can

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<v Speaker 1>work a little bit more into out on the downswing.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I'll do is say, all right, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first swing you were making with the club you

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<v Speaker 1>know is working way outside, and now this is you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hit a draw the club going back. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put the two pictures on the screen and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, if you didn't know this was you, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me which one hits fades and which ones hit draws. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you should kind of be able to look at a

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<v Speaker 1>swing and say, yeah, I mean, it would look to

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<v Speaker 1>me like that swing would produce fade. It would look

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<v Speaker 1>to me like that swing would produce a draw. And

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<v Speaker 1>again that goes back into one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about at the beginning, which is concept Right, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to draw the golf ball by take if

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to fade the golf ball by massively taking

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<v Speaker 1>the golf club inside, right, you're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>do more than likely what Hail Irwin did take it inside,

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<v Speaker 1>come over the top and hit a fade that way?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think also this always leads me in a

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<v Speaker 1>golf lesson to talk about intent. What is your intent?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your intention? What are you trying to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I think intent is really really important to me. The

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<v Speaker 1>intent is for regular handicapped golfers, non elite tour players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think intention is something that is missing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to ask yourself, Okay, what are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your golf swing? What are you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do with this shot? Right? What is your intention?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is incredibly powerful, I really do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think start line ken. If you're a right hand

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<v Speaker 1>if you're right handed, you're trying to hit a draw

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<v Speaker 1>a ball, damn well needs to start right of your target.

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<v Speaker 1>If it starts at your target and curves, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss greens right, You're gonna be in trouble. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to have a hell of a short game.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever shot you're trying to hit, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fade it, just stand up and say listen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to fade the golf ball, pick your target

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<v Speaker 1>flag out and say all right, I'm gonna hit ten balls,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only thing I'm going to do so if

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<v Speaker 1>I can start all ten of them left of my target.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm trying to draw the golf ball, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and see if i can start all my

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<v Speaker 1>golf balls. Where the ball starts for me, is as important,

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<v Speaker 1>if not more important, than when the ball where the

0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.119
<v Speaker 1>ball finishes. But I think I've said this before. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody is hyper focused and just obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 1>curvature of the golf ball and where the golf ball

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<v Speaker 1>is ending up. For me, where the golf ball starts

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<v Speaker 1>is as important, if not more important, than when where

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<v Speaker 1>the ball ends up. And then the last team I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do with giving golf lessons is just check

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<v Speaker 1>my ego right. Golf is hard. Golf isn't easy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever think golf is easy. I never played to

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<v Speaker 1>any real high level, so to this day, golf is

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<v Speaker 1>still hard for me. So I'm always talking to my

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<v Speaker 1>instructors that are on my team, hey check here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares if you can do it. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that matters is if your students can do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of players that come. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of instructors that come from a playing background, they

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<v Speaker 1>can be guilty of that. Sometimes I just do it

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<v Speaker 1>like this, You're fine, Yeah, I can do it, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. So I'm always trying to check

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<v Speaker 1>me ago at the door. I said this in my

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<v Speaker 1>presentation on Friday in Orlando for the TPI guys. I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Ernie Els he won the Open Championship in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve. I work with Dustin Johnson. He won the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open in sixteen, he won the Masters in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>won the FedEx Cup. He's been number one in the

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<v Speaker 1>world for almost you know, he and Brooks have been

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<v Speaker 1>number one in the world for almost three years cumulative.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still don't know everything, right, I still don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I still haven't figured this out. I never think I have.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would be easy for me, at this stage

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<v Speaker 1>of my career to just say, listen, I've got all

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<v Speaker 1>these major champions, I've got all these guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>been number one in the world, worked with players that

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<v Speaker 1>have won basically all over the place. But I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't There's still days where I feel like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing. There's still members of my team

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<v Speaker 1>that I say, hey man, can you take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at this golf swing? Maybe I'm just not seeing it,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm too close to it. So I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>think that I've figured it out and I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>found it, because I don't think that quest will ever stop, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always try to get better. I'll always try and improve,

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<v Speaker 1>so my knowledge base can always get better. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I always try and check my ego and just say, listen, man,

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't know everything. You can learn something from other instructors.

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I ask when I'm on tour. I'll sit with other

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.959
<v Speaker 1>instructors on tour and say, hey man, i'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>this with a player, what do you think about this? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily agree with everything that every other

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<v Speaker 1>instructor does. You know, I have my own way of

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<v Speaker 1>doing things, but I don't know everything, and maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>can see something or come up with idea or concept

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know. Having given that presentation, I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it'd be a cool podcast to just talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how I think and about how I see golf swings

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<v Speaker 1>and what I'm trying to work on with players. So

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<v Speaker 1>just a little brief overview of kind of my checklist

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<v Speaker 1>when a player comes in for a golf lesson. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's helpful, maybe it's not. But I think it's some

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<v Speaker 1>good information and I think you should be thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>this when you're taking your golf lessons, some of it

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