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Speaker 2: this was the most watched Premier League match in US history. Paulie,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to you first.
Speaker 3: Arsenal Manchester United.
Speaker 4: Seed O Connor, oh Man, that's a good guess. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say, uh, Chelsea Manchester United.
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Speaker 2: Let's clean up our ones poll question and then turn
Speaker 2: our attention hour two Greg Olsen, NFL and Fox analyst
Speaker 2: will stop buying about twenty minutes. What do you have.
Speaker 4: Seaton in twenty twenty four? Would you rather be the
Speaker 4: Lions offensive coordinator or the head coach of the Washington
Speaker 4: Commanders right now that's at sixty nine percent? Would rather
Speaker 4: be the OC in Detroit?
Speaker 2: Who would have thought, you know, if I would have
Speaker 2: said that a few years ago, Hey, would you stay
Speaker 2: as the OC of the Lions or take the head
Speaker 2: coaching job of the command Awesome? I don't know if
Speaker 2: he had the opportunity to take the job with the
Speaker 2: Commanders unless he was taking their salary that they were
Speaker 2: offering as opposed to his and maybe Seattle as well.
Speaker 2: Fifteen million for a guy who hasn't coached before as
Speaker 2: a head coach. That's a little steep. That's a little steep.
Speaker 2: So it's being presented in Detroit of kind of the
Speaker 2: hero returns he's coming back to the staff. Eminem joked
Speaker 2: that he was going to have a dis track if
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson left the Lions. He goes, all right, I
Speaker 2: can stop writing that. I don't have to do a
Speaker 2: disc track on Ben Johnson leaving the Lions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pauel is the word Johnson easy to rhyme with, ritzy.
Speaker 3: That'll lead this up.
Speaker 2: To you as the well, you could probably use it
Speaker 2: as an adjective verb, a noun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he could have fun with that, Yes he could.
Speaker 2: I would think so. But I doesn't have to worry
Speaker 2: about that. No dis track by Eminem. So Ben Johnson
Speaker 2: is staying. That means the Commanders and Seahawks still open
Speaker 2: for business. The Orioles sold yesterday for one point seven billion,
Speaker 2: the Angelo's family, and I was wondering, like, it feels
Speaker 2: like billion. Doesn't seem like a billion the way it
Speaker 2: used to. So you're one point seven My initial reaction was, man,
Speaker 2: that's all they got for. And I'm thinking, yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: that's the going rate for a baseball team. Plus, you
Speaker 2: know your sandwich between Washington, d C. And Philadelphia, You're
Speaker 2: in a city that you know, financially could be struggling
Speaker 2: and the Oriols there are still a great brand, great ballpark.
Speaker 2: But the Angelo's family, I don't know if there's you know,
Speaker 2: what the working dynamic was or is with that family
Speaker 2: with the team. But one point seven billion for the
Speaker 2: Orioles and seems like it's weird to say, Man, that
Speaker 2: sounds like a good bye. But we're a good dot
Speaker 2: dot dot buye not a goodbye. But I think because
Speaker 2: we get drunk with these numbers with NFL franchises, where
Speaker 2: you go, how much should the Commanders go for five
Speaker 2: point six billion? Or Denver went for five billion dollars?
Speaker 2: And you know, we look at some of the other franchises,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. Steve Balmer overpaid for the Clippers,
Speaker 2: but he could afford to overpay with the Clippers. He
Speaker 2: wanted to have a franchise and he got it. But
Speaker 2: sometimes you look at these franchises and they're not all
Speaker 2: worth with the Cowboys are worth, or the Yankees are worth,
Speaker 2: or the Dodgers are worth the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Yes, does it feel like you guys?
Speaker 5: In the past two years, more sports teams have sold
Speaker 5: in a kind of a block of time, not and
Speaker 5: for hot record prices. I mean, of course the market's
Speaker 5: going to go up, but it almost feels like some
Speaker 5: of these owners are cashing out at the peak of
Speaker 5: the market. And I've seen some stories from like Fortune
Speaker 5: magazine that says, you know, Daniel Snyder cashed out now
Speaker 5: because of the pressure of the NFL because this was
Speaker 5: the time. And Mark Cuban sold what I think forty
Speaker 5: percent of his franchise. He still controls it because this
Speaker 5: is the time to do so it's almost like a
Speaker 5: market move more than sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like that when people said, why would
Speaker 2: Cuban be selling, you know, his beloved Mavericks And Cuban's
Speaker 2: a businessman, and I think that maybe sold off some
Speaker 2: of the teams so he could do something, you know,
Speaker 2: different business wise with you know, the whole shopping area
Speaker 2: around the MAVs arena there, or get a new arena
Speaker 2: as well. So it seems like a bigger play, a
Speaker 2: longer play, a different play for him. I don't know
Speaker 2: about the other owners, but it might be the time
Speaker 2: to get out. Maybe the numbers are bloated, certainly with
Speaker 2: the NFL, or at least it always seems like that,
Speaker 2: And then you look back twenty years from now, and
Speaker 2: you go, how much they pay for that? Like you know,
Speaker 2: when the Patriots were sold, what was it a couple
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars that you pay for that? Like some
Speaker 2: of these where you go, yeah, that's a good return
Speaker 2: on your investment.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See was it.
Speaker 4: The Carolina Hurricanes they were sold like six years ago
Speaker 4: or at least like fifty percent of it or something
Speaker 4: was up for like four hundred million dollars or something.
Speaker 2: This feels like a bargain. Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Pull the Angela's family paid one one hundred and seventy
Speaker 5: three million in nineteen ninety three, so they made almost
Speaker 5: exactly ten times profit.
Speaker 3: Okay, good for the got a break?
Speaker 2: Good for the all Right, our two pole questions, Seaton, Well,
Speaker 2: would you like a greg Olsen specific poll question? Sure?
Speaker 4: In honor of our guests. Sure, greg Olsen should chill
Speaker 4: at Fox and bite his time or get out find
Speaker 4: a new home.
Speaker 2: And no other options there. Those are basically the two
Speaker 2: he could either stay or go. I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: the third one was. Would you ask for a trade
Speaker 2: if you're Greg Olsen? No, I'm serious or announcer to
Speaker 2: be named later, Yes, or a cartoon. Al Michaels was
Speaker 2: traded for a cartoon. Right if You're If You're Greg? Okay?
Speaker 2: But NBC already has collins Worth, ESPN has Aikman, CBS
Speaker 2: as Romo. Where is Greg Olsen gonna go to be
Speaker 2: the number one analysts?
Speaker 7: I don't know where you go?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tony, Tony? What do you think? Could Greg
Speaker 2: Olsen take over your job with Jim NaN's I don't really.
Speaker 1: Know what is he coming?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 7: Is he goes?
Speaker 3: You should be able to pick that.
Speaker 2: I love at the very end when you say, well,
Speaker 2: what do you what would you do?
Speaker 4: He only said that one time, but it's like for me,
Speaker 4: it's it's the punctuation on every sentence he says, not
Speaker 4: what I'm here for.
Speaker 2: I think that's your job. And they may run and
Speaker 2: they may throw Jim, what do you think?
Speaker 3: I don't know. This is a big call. What would
Speaker 3: you do?
Speaker 2: Not exactly insightful? You know, we're just having fun.
Speaker 5: You're like watching Meet the Press and the guy goes
Speaker 5: to the you know, the president. You know what should
Speaker 5: do here with this situation?
Speaker 3: I don't know what would you do? Yeah, that's not
Speaker 3: what I'm here for.
Speaker 2: Peace?
Speaker 1: I don't know what would you do?
Speaker 2: What would you do? Yeah, what would you do with putin?
Speaker 1: I don't know what would you do?
Speaker 3: Chuck Todd making decisions?
Speaker 8: Yes, Dud does the same that long ago when we
Speaker 8: were talking about how does he go to his crystal
Speaker 8: ball and predict every play before it happens?
Speaker 3: How do we get to this place?
Speaker 2: I know, you know. Plus he's gonna have that standalone
Speaker 2: game doing the Super Bowl. Ever, everybody's going to have
Speaker 2: an opinion on Tony, everybody, And I don't think it
Speaker 2: helped Tony that he had the previous game over the
Speaker 2: weekend and then it led into Greg Olsen's game, so
Speaker 2: you could compare those two and that's what a lot
Speaker 2: of people did. And I thought Greg Olsen had a
Speaker 2: really good game. Like it's I just want football fans
Speaker 2: know football. I think you want to know what did
Speaker 2: you pick up in the moment, Like what did you
Speaker 2: see that I didn't see without being lectured on it?
Speaker 2: And I think that's really the key. Tom Brady says
Speaker 2: that he's been stuffy broadcasters here. You'll have to be yourself,
Speaker 2: and that's the hardest thing in this business. When somebody says,
Speaker 2: just be yourself, Well, you don't know who you are.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady doesn't know who he is as a broadcaster now,
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, or maybe a guy who talks about
Speaker 2: football behind the scenes with his buddies. But when every
Speaker 2: word is going to be analyzed and he's got this
Speaker 2: massive deal and we're going to expect Tom Brady to
Speaker 2: be Tom Brady the quarterback, the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2: And there have been a lot of guys who have
Speaker 2: done this, Jim Brown, Joe Montana. I mean, I've worked
Speaker 2: with a number of guys who were great players, they
Speaker 2: weren't great broadcasters. And sometimes it takes somebody who wasn't
Speaker 2: a great player, because the great player may have a
Speaker 2: hard time understanding why they're great. They just do it.
Speaker 2: Whereas the guy who has to watch others do it
Speaker 2: to try to be better, to try to compete. It
Speaker 2: feels like they're more analytical they see it, whereas you know,
Speaker 2: I just do it. Like if I said to Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: explain you know how you do what you do, he
Speaker 2: might not be able to do it. Or Michael Vick,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, they might not be able to explain it.
Speaker 2: And I always go back to when I ask John McEnroe,
Speaker 2: how do you do what you do? And he goes,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just do it like it's all reactionary.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you prepare for that moment. But in
Speaker 2: real time, Tom has to be ready to go and
Speaker 2: tell you what just happened. And I'm sure he has
Speaker 2: the football acumen to be able to do it. Can
Speaker 2: you get it out? And let's say twenty seconds, because
Speaker 2: that's what it comes down to. It's play by play.
Speaker 2: Then you look back, the analyst says, but he I
Speaker 2: saw this, this is why this happened. Then they show
Speaker 2: a replay and then you say a little bit more
Speaker 2: and then you come back play by play. So it's
Speaker 2: twenty seconds. It's twenty seconds back to play by play,
Speaker 2: might be thirty seconds, might be ten seconds. Hey be quiet,
Speaker 2: the official is going to give us the call on this.
Speaker 2: We're going to commercial break, like all of these things
Speaker 2: where somebody going to be talking in Tom Brady's headset.
Speaker 2: And it's different than you know, the offensive coordinator or
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick talking to you prior to, you know, the
Speaker 2: start of the play. He's going to be hearing things.
Speaker 2: You've got to talk sometimes when somebody's talking to you.
Speaker 2: You've got to get along with that play by play voice.
Speaker 2: You know, he has to be able to see. I
Speaker 2: think Jim Nance does an unbelievable job because he does
Speaker 2: have to kind of fit into Tony Romo's world, because
Speaker 2: you got to go okay, Tony, and then he'll say
Speaker 2: what he says, and then sometimes you may go long,
Speaker 2: or he might say something that's a question and Jim
Speaker 2: has to get it back to the game itself. You know,
Speaker 2: Joe Buck has it easy. He's been friends with Troy
Speaker 2: for such a long period of time. They know each other.
Speaker 2: And Tarico can work with anybody. Collinsworth can work with anybody.
Speaker 2: Having that, you know, I thought Herb Street and Al Michaels,
Speaker 2: you know, it took him a little while to sync up.
Speaker 2: But Herbie's been working with Chris Fowler for a long
Speaker 2: period of time, and Al was working with Chris Collinsworth.
Speaker 2: There is and even when I did Sports Center, and
Speaker 2: I'd have a certain co host working with them to
Speaker 2: understand sort of what they do, how they do it.
Speaker 2: Kenny Maine would be different than you know, working with
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen and you would have to adjust that way
Speaker 2: because everybody. You want everybody to be at their best.
Speaker 2: And I think that'll be a challenge for Tom. And
Speaker 2: it's not can you be critical? I think that was
Speaker 2: the common mistake that I had. I remember interviewing Troy
Speaker 2: when he was ready to take over the job. This
Speaker 2: is many, many years ago. Joe Buck had a golf
Speaker 2: tournament in Saint Louis and I remember talking to Troy
Speaker 2: and he's just getting into broadcasting, and I said, you know,
Speaker 2: are you able to be critical? And it's really not that.
Speaker 2: I think you have to just what you see, You
Speaker 2: say what you see. You don't go out of your
Speaker 2: way to be mean spirited, but you have to be
Speaker 2: honest with what you see. If it's a bad call,
Speaker 2: a bad pass, somebody should have had something, then you
Speaker 2: call them out because that's the fans know that they
Speaker 2: want you to, you know, point out, oh my god,
Speaker 2: look what just happened there. And I think that'll be
Speaker 2: important for Tom. You don't have to be highly critical
Speaker 2: as much as you have to be highly analytical, and
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference in that. All right, So
Speaker 2: the pole question for hour two is what seat O'Connor.
Speaker 2: We're going to say, should Greg Olsen stay or go?
Speaker 9: Uh basically yeah, yes, yes, okay, you could stay and
Speaker 9: be the number two team there.
Speaker 2: Tom's got a ten year deal, by the way, and
Speaker 2: you know who negotiated that, Rupert Murdoch's son at box. Yeah,
Speaker 2: personally negotiated that. Yes.
Speaker 5: But Greg's kind of in the position where like Tom
Speaker 5: Brady's backup quarterbacks were a few years are like Matt
Speaker 5: Matt Castle or Garoppolo. He came in because Brady decided
Speaker 5: to wait a year, did really well, probably overachieved and
Speaker 5: had a big stage this weekend. Now feels like he's
Speaker 5: being you know, big footed by Brady. But there was
Speaker 5: a contract in place. But it's working on I think
Speaker 5: very well for Greg. It may take a year.
Speaker 2: The last guy I want to be a backup quarterback
Speaker 2: too is Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: Well unless plays forever, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't. He got injured one year.
Speaker 5: But the exposure that Olsen got this one year because
Speaker 5: Brady sat a here.
Speaker 2: Is but he can't capitalize on it.
Speaker 3: M I'm taking Olsen to get a pay raise in
Speaker 3: the next year.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, okay, give him a pay raise.
Speaker 5: I think I think it makes quite a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think there's gonna be some shifting
Speaker 5: next year. All right, let me take a break. Greg
Speaker 5: will join us here coming up next year on The
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Speaker 2: good to have you back. Let me go back to
Speaker 2: the fourth down call by the Lions and you said
Speaker 2: they disguised their coverage. The Niners disguise their coverage on
Speaker 2: Jared Goff. When do you realize this and how that's
Speaker 2: going to affect the play and what you're going to
Speaker 2: say on TV?
Speaker 11: Yeah, So what happened was, so what a lot of
Speaker 11: teams do is they use their backs to their tight
Speaker 11: ends and they put them in unconventional formations where maybe
Speaker 11: they're outside the receiver or they're in the slot and
Speaker 11: they want to get tells. So what happened there early
Speaker 11: and when we came back and showed the replay as
Speaker 11: Drake Greenlaw was walked on, Jamier Gibbs was he was
Speaker 11: the furthest receiver out to the right. So that was
Speaker 11: the man tell for Jared Goff. See GoF he brings
Speaker 11: Gibbs in from being out wide to put him back
Speaker 11: in the backfield next to him in the gun, and
Speaker 11: then GoF gives the hand signal or the check or
Speaker 11: whatever the play's gonna be, so you'll see green Law
Speaker 11: comes back in with him. So it looks again that's
Speaker 11: a man tell, you know a lot of the times,
Speaker 11: and give credit to San Francisco and Wilkes, they ended
Speaker 11: up just zoning it out.
Speaker 7: They ended up just shelling it out.
Speaker 11: And they're running mesh, you know, which is like guys
Speaker 11: crossing each other, like running shallow drags, trying to run
Speaker 11: interference and run their man's and you know, run their
Speaker 11: man coverage into each other.
Speaker 7: And they were running a man type.
Speaker 11: Concept against what ended up looking like man but playing
Speaker 11: like zone. And that's why GoF had nowhere to go
Speaker 11: early he tried to flush and get it late down
Speaker 11: the field Dom and Ross Saint Brown and was just
Speaker 11: off balance and didn't get enough on it. So those
Speaker 11: are critical moments in the game, right. That's the chess match,
Speaker 11: back and forth, pre snap tells, post snap tells, and
Speaker 11: in that critical moment they San Francisco got to stop.
Speaker 2: They needed Yeah, you did a great job in seeing
Speaker 2: it and saying it, because you got to do it quickly.
Speaker 2: Play happens? Now? What happened? Do you watch on the
Speaker 2: monitor or do you watch onto the field?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 11: So my process is so I have two monitors. So
Speaker 11: I have my telestrator, which is like the production that's
Speaker 11: what everyone sees on their TV at home, right, That's
Speaker 11: I have no bearing on that. That just is just
Speaker 11: a copy of whatever is being broadcast into, you know,
Speaker 11: into the homes. I have a skycam, which is like
Speaker 11: you know, the cable cam behind the quarterback. So I
Speaker 11: have that monitor, and then I have an ALL twenty two.
Speaker 11: But those are all on delays, so they're on about
Speaker 11: a four second delay from what's actually happening on the field.
Speaker 11: So I watch it live on the field, which in
Speaker 11: essence is like an ALL twenty two, like you know,
Speaker 11: from above, and then I see it and then by
Speaker 11: the time Kevin is done with his call, I can
Speaker 11: then either go to the ALL twenty two or the
Speaker 11: sky based on what I want to see, and then
Speaker 11: I can either confirm I can finalize numbers, get my
Speaker 11: make sure what I saw live is actually what I
Speaker 11: see and then by the time it's on my telestrator,
Speaker 11: by the time it's you know, Kevin has done and
Speaker 11: I got.
Speaker 7: To jump in to talk, I have a pretty good sense.
Speaker 7: I saw it live.
Speaker 11: I saw it on a quick, little four second delay,
Speaker 11: so I'm pretty certain that what I'm going to say
Speaker 11: is what happened and doesn't always play out that way,
Speaker 11: but that's you know, that's the method that I've developed
Speaker 11: in the booth the last couple of years, and it's
Speaker 11: helped me just make sure what I say, I'm confident
Speaker 11: is what really happened.
Speaker 2: And players will talk about the game slows down when
Speaker 2: you play the game, like after a couple of years,
Speaker 2: you eventually see it differently. Quarterbacks talk about it it
Speaker 2: slows down a little bit. As a broadcaster, did it
Speaker 2: slow down for you where it became easier? Oh?
Speaker 11: Absolutely, you know my first year, I think I always
Speaker 11: joke now with with our producer Zee. I always say, like,
Speaker 11: when I first started doing this, I only had like
Speaker 11: a couple of camera angles and it was probably for
Speaker 11: the best.
Speaker 7: You know, they probably had more. They just didn't want
Speaker 7: to overwhelm me.
Speaker 11: So my replays were, you know, behind the defense, behind
Speaker 11: the offense.
Speaker 7: Every once in a while in all twenty.
Speaker 11: Two from above or just like an ISO shot, it's
Speaker 11: just all right, it's going to be on you know,
Speaker 11: ce d Lamb, or it's going to be on am
Speaker 11: you know whoever that was it. And I would just
Speaker 11: do my telestrations and do my But then when I
Speaker 11: as I kept going, I realized, oh my god, there's
Speaker 11: a million more cameras, and you just get more comfortable,
Speaker 11: you get more fluid. Hey, whatever they throw up on
Speaker 11: the telestrator, it's not going to catch me off guard anymore.
Speaker 11: But watching the plays unfold on the field was always
Speaker 11: very natural to me. I'll tell you the biggest transition
Speaker 11: Dan that I had was for my whole career watching
Speaker 11: game film, I would always watch it from behind the offense.
Speaker 11: So that was my perspective of seeing NFL football forever.
Speaker 11: And now we sometimes do it from behind the defense.
Speaker 11: They call it pit or you do it from like
Speaker 11: a corner sideline where so you want to talk about
Speaker 11: the left guard, but now you're doing it from behind
Speaker 11: the defense, so he's actually on the right and you know,
Speaker 11: so like little things like that. I had to like
Speaker 11: retrain my brain that, Okay, for fourteen years, you watch
Speaker 11: film like this, Well, this isn't film, this is live television,
Speaker 11: and we're not going to just show the same camera
Speaker 11: angle for three hours every weekend. So little things like
Speaker 11: that you get better at. And my team spent a
Speaker 11: lot of time with me helping me progress through a
Speaker 11: lot of those things.
Speaker 7: Early on.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the Lions calls with a fourth down.
Speaker 2: Did you agree with the calls and the plays that
Speaker 2: were called, because they sometimes you can call the right
Speaker 2: play but it doesn't turn out well. But I'm curious
Speaker 2: from your perspective now three days later, did they make
Speaker 2: the right calls on those fourth down?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 11: So, first and foremost, I think going for it was
Speaker 11: the right move for multiple reasons. And I know this
Speaker 11: has been like the hot button topic now since the
Speaker 11: game ended, and we said it very early in the game.
Speaker 11: There's a way to be aggressive in the NFL. There's
Speaker 11: two ways you can be aggressive in your play calling,
Speaker 11: which we didn't think was what they were going to do.
Speaker 11: I don't think Detroit wanted to come out and throw
Speaker 11: the ball fifty times and throw it down field. And
Speaker 11: hold the ball and let that rush. And I think
Speaker 11: that plays into the teeth of this San Francisco defense.
Speaker 11: So they ran the ball. We said, hey, lean on
Speaker 11: your run game, run the ball, run the ball, and
Speaker 11: they did in the first half especially. But you can
Speaker 11: be aggressive in your game, in your game strategy, in
Speaker 11: your game management, right, and that's where Dan Campbell has.
Speaker 11: No one's run more fake punts, no one's converted more,
Speaker 11: no one's attempted more fourth downs or converted more. That's
Speaker 11: been his style since he took over three years ago,
Speaker 11: trying to build this winning culture there. So when you're
Speaker 11: in a game like that against San Francisco, the best
Speaker 11: part of your team, if your Detroit, is your offense.
Speaker 11: So if you're going to put the burden, if it's
Speaker 11: a coin flip decision or it's a I owe, if
Speaker 11: I'm Dan Campbell, I don't blame him for always putting
Speaker 11: the load on his offense. It's the best unit of
Speaker 11: the team. They scored thirty one points and lost. The
Speaker 11: notion that more conservative game management was the answer to
Speaker 11: score more points. That's just not how the NFL works.
Speaker 11: So the notion of hey just take the points, there's
Speaker 11: no take the points on forty eight yard field goals.
Speaker 11: These are not gimme chip shots. So I think that's
Speaker 11: where people lose. It's like, hey, forty eight yard or
Speaker 11: just tie the game up. Well, last year in the
Speaker 11: Super Bowl, we watched Harrison Buckner on fourth and three
Speaker 11: in the first quarter. Hey, San Francisco with seven seven?
Speaker 11: Just I mean Kansas City, go take the lead early,
Speaker 11: get the lead, and he jointed it off the left crossbar.
Speaker 11: He's the best kicker in the league. They thought they
Speaker 11: were taking the points on fourth and three and the
Speaker 11: scot so like, that's the narrative. We have to stop.
Speaker 11: When the kicker misses it, it's the kicker. When they go
Speaker 11: for it and they don't make it, it's the coach.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Greg Olsen, NFL on Fox Analysts joining
Speaker 2: us courtesy of di Jorno for more on what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Didgornodoinks dot com? Since you played the position, how would
Speaker 2: you defend Travis Kelce if you're the forty nine ers,
Speaker 2: whether it's there safety or their linebackers. What does he
Speaker 2: do and how do you stop what he's doing? From
Speaker 2: your perspective, Man.
Speaker 7: It's it's hard.
Speaker 11: You know what he's doing is unprecedented. And you know,
Speaker 11: I've been on record calling his games and set it
Speaker 11: on broadcasts, and I think we're starting.
Speaker 7: I never thought anyone would ever.
Speaker 11: Catch Tony Gonzales from a production standpoint, from a lang
Speaker 11: longevity of his career and what he was able to
Speaker 11: do was pretty remarkable when you saw Tony compared to
Speaker 11: the you know, two, three four guys as far as
Speaker 11: production and what he was able to accomplish over a
Speaker 11: long time. I think Kelsey's either arrived already or he's
Speaker 11: nipping at his heels because he should have had eight
Speaker 11: thousand yard seasons in a row. He didn't play in
Speaker 11: the last game. I think he needed like fifteen yards,
Speaker 11: so in essence, he was going to get it. It
Speaker 11: wasn't that big of a deal to him.
Speaker 7: His playoff records.
Speaker 11: I mean, when you're breaking Jerry Rice's records, you're entering
Speaker 11: a new stratosphere of production in the postseason. But as
Speaker 11: far as stopping him, I don't I don't know if
Speaker 11: you're ever going to like completely shut him down. I
Speaker 11: do think the challenge of Kelsey is he's not running
Speaker 11: conventional routes that you can really prepare for it's not Hey,
Speaker 11: he's going to run fourteen yards and hook a left
Speaker 11: and he's going to catch this ball two yards outside
Speaker 11: the hash mark.
Speaker 7: So on your zone.
Speaker 11: Drops drop there, right, You're not because if you drop there,
Speaker 11: he's going to stop his route and end somewhere else,
Speaker 11: like he's playing improv in the moment, real time decision
Speaker 11: route running, and Mahomes sees it the exact same way.
Speaker 11: So it's very hard. So I how I would defend him.
Speaker 11: I think you got to get on them. I think
Speaker 11: the more space he has to run and weave and
Speaker 11: find feel him and Mahomes are just playing at a
Speaker 11: different level than maybe anybody ever, So I think you
Speaker 11: got to get on them. I think you got to
Speaker 11: reroute them. I think you've got to be at the
Speaker 11: line of scrimmage getting them with people behind you to help.
Speaker 11: I don't think this is like, hey, one zone coverage,
Speaker 11: one concept, one player.
Speaker 7: This is a group.
Speaker 11: Effort, and you have to be really good and critical
Speaker 11: downs because when it matters the most, Mahomes is throwing
Speaker 11: him the ball, so you better have an answer for him.
Speaker 7: And very few teams.
Speaker 2: Have given your situation at Fox. Now, as a broadcaster,
Speaker 2: what do you want to do moving forward, I want.
Speaker 7: To call top games.
Speaker 11: You know, Dan, I feel, you know, two years ago
Speaker 11: and when everything unfolded, and you know, obviously I've known
Speaker 11: Tom was coming for you know, over you know, two years,
Speaker 11: a year and a half, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 11: and uh, you know that part of it. We always knew.
Speaker 11: It was a matter of when. We didn't know exactly
Speaker 11: when the timeline. It ended up not coming this past season,
Speaker 11: which gave me a second year with Kevin in the
Speaker 11: booth with the A team. But you know, going forward,
Speaker 11: my goals haven't changed. You know, my goals when I
Speaker 11: started out calling games with Fox, you know, three years ago,
Speaker 11: was I aspired to be a top broadcaster.
Speaker 7: I really thought I could do it.
Speaker 11: I thought if given the opportunity and the chance, I
Speaker 11: could show people that I could do it. And I
Speaker 11: got the opportunity and Fox was kind enough to give
Speaker 11: me that. And I think over the last two years
Speaker 11: we've really changed the narrative. I think we've changed where hey,
Speaker 11: this is just a placeholder. This had got of being
Speaker 11: like no, this, this guy can do it. So my
Speaker 11: goals and aspirations, if anything, have even gotten more committed
Speaker 11: to I want to call top games. I want to
Speaker 11: call games in front of fifty seven million people and
Speaker 11: dive into the biggest moments and why it's happening. And
Speaker 11: I feel like we've done as good a job as
Speaker 11: that as anybody in the industry over the last couple
Speaker 11: of seasons. And where that is, how that is, when
Speaker 11: that is? I don't know right there's so many moving
Speaker 11: parts out of my control. But my goal is to
Speaker 11: be a top A broadcaster again, and I'm going to
Speaker 11: do everything in my power to achieve that. And that's
Speaker 11: been the goal that I've laid out since I entered
Speaker 11: this field upon retirement three years ago.
Speaker 2: Would you ask for a trade.
Speaker 11: I'm not really in the business of making demands. You know,
Speaker 11: I'm not sitting here holding anyone's feet to the fire.
Speaker 11: At Fox. It understands the position I'm in. They understand
Speaker 11: what my aspirations are. You know, we're not sitting there
Speaker 11: banging the table and saying you have to let us
Speaker 11: get you know, We're not in that. We're not doing that.
Speaker 11: You know, we understand what we signed up for. They
Speaker 11: understand where I am and being at this stage of
Speaker 11: my career of where I want to go and I
Speaker 11: think we're all we understand the delicate situation.
Speaker 7: That we're in, right.
Speaker 11: I understand when Tom Brady's looming over your shoulder, it's
Speaker 11: the biggest news in sports.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 11: He's Tom Brady. He's someone I've respected for damn twenty years.
Speaker 11: So I understand the uniqueness of what's going on. And
Speaker 11: I feel like we've handled it as well as we
Speaker 11: could for the last two years. And if I can
Speaker 11: get another opportunity to call top games at Fox or
Speaker 11: somewhere else, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Speaker 2: If I put you and Brady in the octagon and
Speaker 2: the winner gets to call the top games on Fox, that'd.
Speaker 11: Be quite That'd be quite the pay per view. I
Speaker 11: think Tom stays in better shape. I think he works
Speaker 11: out more than I have. My men's tennis, my men's
Speaker 11: tennis clinics on Wednesday night.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 7: I don't think me quite in fight and shape. And
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 11: I'm not fighting Tom Brady. That's a losing battle you're
Speaker 11: probably not gonna win.
Speaker 2: Give me the plug that you and Kevin are working
Speaker 2: on before we say goodbye.
Speaker 11: Well, we talked about it earlier with the doint from
Speaker 11: last year, so again for the second year, de Joino's
Speaker 11: got this fun program where if one of the kickers
Speaker 11: doinks the ball, you know, so for those who don't know,
Speaker 11: doink is like the ball hits the upright the crossbar
Speaker 11: and makes you know, makes the doink noise, which there
Speaker 11: was one last year the Chiefs kicker Harrison Buckner, which
Speaker 11: again was fourth and three and he doinked it. So
Speaker 11: we can leave that there. If you register, you go
Speaker 11: to Johno doinks register, you enter. If there's a doink
Speaker 11: in the super Bowl, you get a chance to win
Speaker 11: free pizza and football the super Bowl win free pizza.
Speaker 7: It's a win for everybody but the kicker.
Speaker 2: I guess you did a great job, and you're doing
Speaker 2: a great job answering these questions. I know that you're
Speaker 2: getting the same ones over and over and everybody thinks
Speaker 2: there's going to be a different answer. So good luck
Speaker 2: this and uh, there's no shame in if you're calling
Speaker 2: you know, the second best games on Fox. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean you're you're still doing it for a living and
Speaker 2: that's really important. But wanting to be better, greater, that's
Speaker 2: the important part. Uh. You know that game should not
Speaker 2: mean less because it's not as important as you know
Speaker 2: that the Marquee game. So good luck with that as
Speaker 2: you move forward, and you and Kevin certainly made a
Speaker 2: wonderful team.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Greg, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: That's Greg Olsen, NFL and Fox analyst, former tight end
Speaker 2: to three Pro Bowls and uh first round pick by
Speaker 2: the Panthers.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was well handled by Greg Olsen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was both a confident answer but using the
Speaker 5: word word we often, you know, like we, here's what
Speaker 5: my team, my people. You know, it was very well
Speaker 5: answered with your question because it's a tough situation he's in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't say, you know, I'm better than
Speaker 2: Tom and he might be better than Tom.
Speaker 5: It's better if we say he's great, yeah, and if
Speaker 5: he says he's great. Yeah, but he's confidence was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he.
Speaker 2: Should have that. Now, you called a game in front
Speaker 2: of fifty seven million people. I mean I handed out
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl trophy in front of one hundred million,
Speaker 2: but like that. Yeah, yeah, haven't asked me back though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you chose like Ben Jonson, Yes I did. I chose
Speaker 2: not to hand out the Super Bowl trophy. Because your
Speaker 2: demands were also crazy. Sorry, yeah, I had crazy demands there.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh Marcus, Marcus, I only want to head it to Tom.
Speaker 3: Yes, he retires, I retire.
Speaker 2: Yes. If Tom's not playing, I'm not handing out super
Speaker 2: Bowl trophy.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: Hey, Marcus, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Hey morning, Dan, first time, long time, five six, one fifty.
Speaker 6: Oh that's awesome, fucking list check excellent. Hey, first up, Dan,
Speaker 6: I've been driving about seventy thousand miles a year for
Speaker 6: about the last twenty years. I cannot say how much
Speaker 6: I appreciate you the dan As for making the three
Speaker 6: hours of my dreve each day drive go buy so quickly,
Speaker 6: bless you like fristy. I'm scared to death what I'm
Speaker 6: going to do after you guys are ton in a
Speaker 6: couple of years. So I know, I know We're a
Speaker 6: football season at the top of mind. Have next two
Speaker 6: weeks full of pitchers and catchers reporting here news of
Speaker 6: my upstart Orioles getting sold by a group to a
Speaker 6: group that includes how Ripkin was music in my ears
Speaker 6: just cherious on your tape, on the tape of ownerships
Speaker 6: impacts on successive teams in general, including my Orioles, and
Speaker 6: again bless you guys. Appreciate y'all hang up and listen.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Marcus safe travels there. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: Rip's involved in it, I mean, that's wonderful and get
Speaker 2: that name recognition. And you know, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the Angelos standing was in the community by people cover
Speaker 2: the team. Uh, but I think having Cal Ripkin there
Speaker 2: can only be a positive. And you know they've had
Speaker 2: some success. You know, they drafted, had some good draft
Speaker 2: picks here. Still, that's a great uniform, great logo, the Orioles.
Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, it's the Tom Brady Game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the new time Brady game,
Speaker 2: all new, the all new Tom Brady Game. We'll play
Speaker 2: it after this.
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Speaker 1: listen live. I'm looking at the numbers here. Since Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell took over as the Lions head coach, fifty four games,
Speaker 1: he's gone for it on fourth down one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty three times. He's converted sixty five times. At fifty
Speaker 1: two almost fifty three percent. Nick Siriani, Yeah, he's at
Speaker 1: sixty three percent. Kevin Stefanski is second on the list
Speaker 1: at almost fifty percent. That the Browns have gone for
Speaker 1: it one hundred and seven times and converted fifty three times.
Speaker 1: But as Greg Olsen said, look, he agreed with them
Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down. That's who you are. Your
Speaker 1: offense is the best side of the ball. I really
Speaker 1: believe that Dan Campbell knew his defense. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: question of if, but when they were going to allow
Speaker 1: San Francisco back into this, and I think they got
Speaker 1: to the point where and he got to the point
Speaker 1: where he needed to go forward to continue to put
Speaker 1: pressure on them. But Greg Wilson's right, if you said
Speaker 1: the Lions were going to score thirty one points, you
Speaker 1: would think that would be enough. Now, the Lions defense
Speaker 1: certainly didn't live up to its portion of the game.
Speaker 1: All right, Time to play the Tom Brady Game, the
Speaker 1: All New Tom Brady Game and Paulie takeover as the
Speaker 1: host of the All New Tom Brady Game.
Speaker 5: Thanks Dan, all Right, game show music Right, it's a
Speaker 5: two part game. How is Tom Brady used next year
Speaker 5: by Fox as a straight game analyst or are other
Speaker 5: elements mixed in with it.
Speaker 3: It's part two.
Speaker 5: If you were predicting the reaction to Tom Brady's first
Speaker 5: couple weeks on air, they will be what I'll go
Speaker 5: to Fritzy Firs two parts.
Speaker 8: I think that they're gonna have him try to do
Speaker 8: a little of everything. I think it's gonna start within
Speaker 8: the in the broadcast booths, but he should be expected
Speaker 8: to have other roles. And I know we had talked
Speaker 8: about this before in TV and movies and stuff, But
Speaker 8: as far as the sports, I think they're gonna try
Speaker 8: him out in the studio as well through the course
Speaker 8: of that first season. And I think the reviews are
Speaker 8: gonna be mixed, but they will be negative at first,
Speaker 8: and then we will gradually he'll gradually improve and they
Speaker 8: will gradually notice that improvement, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Hopefully Tom uses bravity too when he was broadcasting there, Seaton,
Speaker 2: don't go to you. I'm sorry, what was the question again?
Speaker 3: Okay, a long time ago?
Speaker 2: What will Tom do and how will it be received? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's well.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be in the booth, that's pretty clear.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a negative. I think that
Speaker 4: Tom Brady is a big name, but he has a
Speaker 4: lot of people who really don't like him, So I
Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna get a warm reception.
Speaker 2: Okay, more polarizing Tom Brady or Taylor's whiftop Marvin.
Speaker 12: He's going to be in the booth because they're paying
Speaker 12: him a ton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 12: Review is going to be negative, even if it's unfair,
Speaker 12: you're negative.
Speaker 2: It'll be in the booth. I think the reviews will
Speaker 2: be Hey, he's surprisingly good. I think people will be
Speaker 2: surprised at how Tom sounds kill. We're not used to
Speaker 2: hearing Tom do a game, and I think when we
Speaker 2: hear it, how he fits in with the cadence there.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a like a syncopation here that happens.
Speaker 2: It's you have to understand the rhythm of the game,
Speaker 2: the role you play. I think people will be pleasantly
Speaker 2: surprised at Tom's performance.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is not meant to be disrespectful to the
Speaker 4: job at all, but but Tom Brady, I feel like,
Speaker 4: is bigger than that job. And to me, the thing
Speaker 4: that I'm really struggling with is, obviously, you want the
Speaker 4: name on your team, but what do you do with them?
Speaker 4: To me, it's not, well, put him in the booth
Speaker 4: and I'll call Lions games.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I just don't think that that's what you should do
Speaker 4: with him, and I think he might be very good
Speaker 4: in that role, and he can probably analyze a game
Speaker 4: just as good or not better than anybody. I think
Speaker 4: that you need to get him with players because that's
Speaker 4: where you really see his personality come out. And you
Speaker 4: need to get him on the field with guys where
Speaker 4: they're like a Tommy and you get to see the
Speaker 4: real Tommy come out, or the we see Tom Brady,
Speaker 4: but players know Tommy.
Speaker 2: We need to find Tommy and get him on TV,
Speaker 2: just like Belichick when you hear man he's got a
Speaker 2: great sense of humor. Yeah, dude, hilarious. You need to
Speaker 2: find that guy and have him be a broadcaster. I
Speaker 2: don't know that Tom Brady is going to do it,
Speaker 2: but if you could get Tommy, now you really have something.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I think he'll be using the booth
Speaker 5: because that's a contract, but I think he's going to
Speaker 5: take over straight Hand's role ABU doing the player interview
Speaker 5: for the pregame show. Tom will sit with Mahomes. Tom
Speaker 5: will sit with Saquon Barkley and he'll be a big
Speaker 5: chunk of the pregame show. And I think he'll do
Speaker 5: cut a halftime. They'll go to Tom out in the
Speaker 5: at the thing. They'll be use them like the way
Speaker 5: the Manning cast. You know, they don't just let the
Speaker 5: Mannings do the Maning cast. They're in all other elements
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 2: Peyton, But does the Manning cast feel elevated over just
Speaker 2: calling a game, even though there's more people who are
Speaker 2: watching the game itself. But I'm just thinking of of
Speaker 2: Tom's contemporaries that you know, you have Peyton running a business.
Speaker 2: John Elway was, you know, running a team. Joe Montana
Speaker 2: is not doing anything now. But I'm just wondering Tom
Speaker 2: doing a game. You know, Troy's doing games as you know,
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Speaker 4: See the problem with doing another Manning cast is that
Speaker 4: you're doing another Manning cast, You're going to do a
Speaker 4: worse version of what they're already doing, just perception wise,
Speaker 4: it's not going to be as good. They're going to
Speaker 4: try to improve on something that doesn't need to be
Speaker 4: improved on right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying he should do. That I'm saying
Speaker 2: is what the Mannings do feel elevated from just calling
Speaker 2: a game, Like they're on constantly. You see them all
Speaker 2: the time. They're having fun, They got their buddies there,
Speaker 2: whereas Tom's gonna be calling a game and not every
Speaker 2: game's going to be you know, the Lions against the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers with you know, fifty one million people.
Speaker 2: So that that's what I was sort of wondering. Is
Speaker 2: it going to be exciting enough for Tom Brady?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Like the Mannings have an entire business, they
Speaker 5: have it a whole production company, and I kind of
Speaker 5: thought that's the way Tom would go. I think people
Speaker 5: were surprised when he took this job.
Speaker 2: Well, he's also involved with the Raiders, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's to what degree if the owners have
Speaker 2: approved that. But being involved in ownership, Okay, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 12: You guys are just talking about the excitement of being
Speaker 12: out there and being at stadiums. Him being in a studio,
Speaker 12: that might be after one season, all right, this is enough.
Speaker 12: I can't be in a stuffy studio in wherever they're
Speaker 12: studio in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Oh no, And that happened when I did Football Night
Speaker 2: in America. You know, Drew Brees, if you go into
Speaker 2: the studio, it's sterile, Like these guys are so used
Speaker 2: to going into a stadium and you're being with people
Speaker 2: and you feed off the crowd. And Drew Brees went
Speaker 2: in there and you know didn't enjoy it. Even Tony
Speaker 2: Dungee and Rodney Harrison when they went in there. You know,
Speaker 2: I said, look, it's a sterile environment. You have to
Speaker 2: create the excitement, the tension because you don't have to
Speaker 2: create that when you go to a football field, go
Speaker 2: into a stadium, even if you're not playing, it's there.
Speaker 2: And even when we would be on the road, whether
Speaker 2: it was for a conference title game or we would
Speaker 2: be at the super Bowl, that energy. You could tell
Speaker 2: the former players, former coaches. It was different, completely different
Speaker 2: when you get out in the elements as opposed to
Speaker 2: being in a studio. Coming up next hour, I think
Speaker 2: the NBA has a scoring problem. There's too much scoring.
Speaker 2: Jim Jackson, former All NBA guard NBA on TNT will
Speaker 2: join it. Coming up. Also, it's Steph Curry against Sabrina
Speaker 2: Ironescue three point contest. I love that she uses the
Speaker 2: WNBA ball from WNBA three point range and he, of
Speaker 2: course abides by the NBA rules. I love it. Final
Speaker 2: hour on the way