WEBVTT - 12/07/21 DPs Best Of

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co host

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, an analyst on Football Night in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Joyness on the program, if Tom Brady was still

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback of the Patriots, what kind of offensive game

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<v Speaker 1>plan would the Patriots have had last night? Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it would have been well, but a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. I don't think they're gonna throw the ball

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<v Speaker 1>three times. I think they're gonna throw the ball more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. You know, first off, of course, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>played more football. You can trust them in the situation

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. And you know, listen, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that's amazing about the game is we know

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<v Speaker 1>the elements were bad and one team won with three throws.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, the other amazing thing about the game was

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback in Josh Allen where they just said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>throw it thirty times, who cares, it's hurricane wins. You

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<v Speaker 1>could throw it through it and he did. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's the amazing thing. And I think Brady would be

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere along those lines. Not that New England would have

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<v Speaker 1>to rely on the hass the way the Bills do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think Brady's arm. You know how big his

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<v Speaker 1>hands are, his arm is one of the more underrated

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<v Speaker 1>things I think in the history of the NFL, where

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes yeah, I think he's a little overrated in his goatness.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he gets enough credit for how powerful

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<v Speaker 1>his arm is and how many great games he had

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<v Speaker 1>and tough with her weather up in New England. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say he gets fifteen to twenty throws last night

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just three if he's in New England. When

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<v Speaker 1>is the game plan finalized, when you know what the

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<v Speaker 1>weather condition. When do you think Belichick or Josh McDaniels went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what our philosophy is tonight. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they probably started to really take into account, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday or Thursday at some point to realize, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a few extra runs in the game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start to formulate a little bit if the weather

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<v Speaker 1>is so bad that they had at least a de

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<v Speaker 1>facto plan early in the week to go, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to think about the game might be, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>manageable through the pass game, so we got to think

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<v Speaker 1>about ways to do that. And they're like, again, having

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<v Speaker 1>worked there, I mean, there's just no stone unturned. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's at any point the details, the smallest details,

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<v Speaker 1>the most basic details, they're they're just constantly stressed, day

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<v Speaker 1>after day after day. And I would think early in

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<v Speaker 1>the week they were on this that there would be

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<v Speaker 1>a factor that they had to have at least some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a plan to attack that. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>want to give Bill Belichick credit, and he deserves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of credit as maybe the greatest coach in NFL history,

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<v Speaker 1>But what role does Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator play in

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<v Speaker 1>saying this is what I would like us to if

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick deals with the defense and let Josh deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, should we be crediting Josh McDaniels not Bill Belichick. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we should give Josh a lot of credit, there's no doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think ultimately it still goes back to Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why Belichick's the greatest coach ever. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>is it about, yes, the defense, and we know all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know these long staff meetings he has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every day after practice, where it's it's coached the coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, doesn't matter what side of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>it is, it's coached. The coach's time, we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>over it, and now I'm going to coach you on

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<v Speaker 1>how to coach each one of these positions and what

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<v Speaker 1>we should do in each situation. And you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>again even in my time there, Dan McDaniels as smart

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<v Speaker 1>as anybody I've been around. Just Tuesday, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could be there running around making copies for things. Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>and McDaniels could be in the corner of the hallway talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd come back an hour later, they're still in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the hallway talking. So I don't think anything

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<v Speaker 1>happens there without Belichick. And even with the great offensive

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<v Speaker 1>McDaniels and everything, it's built through Bill Belichick. To your

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<v Speaker 1>point of why he's so great, you know, everything they

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<v Speaker 1>do on offense, a lot of it is wait, when

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<v Speaker 1>teams get in this formation and I'm in this defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to see this. And then it's like

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<v Speaker 1>McDaniel's going, okay, wait, Belichick doesn't like to see this,

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<v Speaker 1>Let me draw up the play to do that then,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how really the offense has been formulated there

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<v Speaker 1>in New England to even accentuate you know, Belichick's greatness,

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<v Speaker 1>what would we be saying if the Patriots had the

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy of three pounces and they lost last night, we

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<v Speaker 1>would have been going, I mean, three passes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand being I mean, they didn't blow them out, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I think we'd all be going,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least let's get to eight or ten,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I think and and I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>think to what you're asking. Listen, there was a point

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half where I was going, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, can we just give one play action or

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<v Speaker 1>one boot here, just to keep them a little honest.

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<v Speaker 1>But he didn't want to take the chance. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take the chance out of them being in

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<v Speaker 1>second and seven and third and four and their ability

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe even run the ball. Of course, they ran

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<v Speaker 1>in a ton on third down. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we would probably be, you know, dissecting him a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the fact that we'd like to see a

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<v Speaker 1>few more pass more likely to miss the playoffs, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills or the Browns. I'm gonna still go with the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns on that one. You know, I'm hopeful for the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns because there's so much talent on the team, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful only because of that. Like the defense is

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. You've heard me say Dan before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when the run game isn't good. The past

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<v Speaker 1>game in Cleveland just not good enough to stand alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's an issue for me. Buffalo again, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen. He's a superstar, definitely one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in the football. That defense is still very good.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have more faith in them. Host one last night,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen's wearing longer spikes against the Tennessee Titans. They

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<v Speaker 1>probably win that game when they're down there running the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback sneak and he slips late in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's been more consistent in Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the year than Cleveland, that's for sure. And Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>has been losing to all the teams that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to compete with if they get to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they don't have like what's the signature win here?

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<v Speaker 1>And I just don't get a good feeling. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a good feeling to start the year and thought

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<v Speaker 1>they relied on Josh Allen too much, Right, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I know and I wonder if Cleveland would have

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<v Speaker 1>been better if they had gone to case Keenum and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of letting Baker Mayfield go out there injured. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, you know, you know, hey, Baker does

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<v Speaker 1>bring value, There's no doubt. And that's where the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>got to figure out, like at what point is he

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<v Speaker 1>hurting the offense? You know, So that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's again the games haven't been good. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also could sit there, Dad and you know, look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and go, yeah, Baker the Detroit Lion game, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>missing throws on that one, but some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>games as a late too, I want to just I

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<v Speaker 1>watch some plays and go where do you want him

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball? Where the New England game, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody open. Baltimore game. I didn't sit come away

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<v Speaker 1>watching that film, going, oh man, people are open. Baker

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<v Speaker 1>really messed up, not at all. And that's where they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little underwhelming. And you're about I think Buffalo is

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<v Speaker 1>spot on two. You know, if you're not, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>staying the same, you're getting worse. It's like they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just went, wait, we were good last year, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it all again this year. No, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>improve your football team a little bit. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>to Josh Allen reliant to your point. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing, too, is what we've seen, like especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tennessee the Colts and the Patriots losses, when

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<v Speaker 1>there's an overpowering, big offensive line running football team, they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little compromised. They're not a big front seven team.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to play basically nickel all game long. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, if they can get you to overplay

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<v Speaker 1>the run the way they did in all those games,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can just pass a little, you can expose them.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course last night they didn't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>pass to still have their way. He's Chris Simms Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Football Talk Live co host they show that precedes Ours

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<v Speaker 1>on Peacock with Mike Florio. If I said you can

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<v Speaker 1>have the Chiefs of the Patriots the rest of the year, Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean now, I'm sorry Patriots, Patriots. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking the Chiefs yet. I can't do that yet. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, I like what the Chiefs defense is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I know the Patriots is not sexy, but

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<v Speaker 1>neither was two thousand and one Super Bowl run. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just get used to twenty to seventeen, twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>to fourteen. I just think that's the style of play

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<v Speaker 1>they are. But they're too consistent on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, you know. Again the other night with the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs offense, they just can't seem to be consistent or

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<v Speaker 1>get out of their own way, whether it's drop passes,

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes still missing throws where I'd go, Man, the average

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<v Speaker 1>NFL quarterback should make that throw, let alone Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>All these years, I see him do it with his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes closed, you know. So it's just a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy year from that standpoint of I haven't seen a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was so amazing, you know, kind of come

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<v Speaker 1>back to earth and just not be that amazing in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of moments during during the year, we're running

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<v Speaker 1>out of MVP candidates. Feels like it's Tom Brady. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big separation Aaron Rodgers. I guess Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I can't put johnsh Allen in there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. I don't think you could put Mahomes in

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<v Speaker 1>there either, right, you know you can't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you can, and we all want to. The touchdowns are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there, Jonathan, right. I mean, hey, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>guy I'll look at for sure. I think that could

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<v Speaker 1>be in this conversation. Maybe if t J. Watt gets

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<v Speaker 1>on fire here the last few weeks and gets the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two sacks somewhere in that range. But again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Get the playoffs, they give it to the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive player of the year. I mean, that's now they

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<v Speaker 1>know they separate that. But it feels like Brady is

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<v Speaker 1>just being Brady. Maybe nothing special, but that might be

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<v Speaker 1>good enough because everybody else has been inconsistent, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, really Kyler Murray being out for

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<v Speaker 1>a month, is it's gonna cost him the MVP because

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a good chance they do end up

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<v Speaker 1>with the top seed in the NFC playoffs, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be that guy like they jumped on the scene this year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the order back. We know how dangerous he was,

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<v Speaker 1>so his injury affected that. I would I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that, yeah, it's probably Brady from the

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<v Speaker 1>facts of wins and stats, you know, But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what I would say a little bit is the name

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up to me, Aaron Rodgers right now again,

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<v Speaker 1>as annoying as he was during the COVID thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it is just a poster child for MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>We see how average they are without him when he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in there. You know, he's special. Again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any of us think that the supporting cast is

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<v Speaker 1>that great. It's good, no doubt, but not great. You

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, he is just a big what he

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<v Speaker 1>does with the line of scrimmage, having a feel for

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<v Speaker 1>the overall game. You know, I would look at him

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<v Speaker 1>and Brady and probably Jonathan Taylor's the three guys right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna hurt Rogers with what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, Yeah, and it should because you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the most valuable player, but then you missed

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City game or maybe cost your team the

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<v Speaker 1>number one seed, right, I agree, that's gonna come back

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<v Speaker 1>to bite him in the butt most likely. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the Brady is throwing the ball, their offense

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<v Speaker 1>just continues to attack. It seems like it going again.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna get the wins, and he's gonna have the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers to match it. It seems like it's lining up

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<v Speaker 1>for that. What's your opinion on the pseudos slide by

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Picket at the Pittsburgh Quarterbacks in the ACC title game. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me want to puke. I'm sick of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of all this protecting the quarterback crap. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like cheating right there. It's cheating. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, again, I'm not mad at him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate the player, hate the game. I understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, this is again, this is another just

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<v Speaker 1>little snippet of information that we have to protecting the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback has gone. Were just overboard, overboard some of the

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<v Speaker 1>horrible calls in the NFL. The horrible call last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen is running, he jumps in bounds and gets hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and they called hitting the quarterback too hard. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like it, I really don't. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>football has got to do something about it. Wait, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think quarterbacks are embarrassed by the protection they receive? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they know how embarrassing it is, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to do all they can to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I think they know. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Brady and Rogers and Josh Allen like they're tough,

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<v Speaker 1>football minded guys, not just quarterbacks. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>also they realize, Yeah, I mean that's bad. Football's getting rewarded. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't protect nobody was open, but you hit me

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<v Speaker 1>too hard. It's great first down Fantasy owners were still

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<v Speaker 1>going offense is good. I think they know's how embarrassing is.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're gonna do their best to get a free

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen all they can and I can't be mad at

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<v Speaker 1>them for that. Brady would not still be playing if

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<v Speaker 1>this was the nineteen seventies, no way, or the eighty

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<v Speaker 1>or again. Yeah right, he wouldn't you know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time thinking. So, I mean just watching

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my dad, Dan Marino, John Elway, Troy Aikman.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the beating they took. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the deadweight rule. I mean Reggie White literally used to

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<v Speaker 1>pick my dad up and just drop his weight on

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<v Speaker 1>him and body slam him. And you know, my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders are still paying the price for that. I mean,

0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.880
<v Speaker 1>he would have a little more cartilage, might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the ball overhand to his grandkids, but he

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that. A wow, Yes, yes, there's an issue there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>does Tampa have any issues that concern you heading into

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<v Speaker 1>the home stretch A little bit? A little they do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there hasn't been cleaned the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they were begging for the Colts to beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Colts outplayed them again last week. Atlanta hung around,

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<v Speaker 1>had some long drives. Defensively not playing that good right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the first films I'm gonna go watch here,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan when I get done, just because, hey, Matt Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>and company had a little success running the football. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're letting up a lot of plays in

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<v Speaker 1>the past game. They are, and I know they're just

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<v Speaker 1>getting healthy in the secondary, but you know, not playing

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<v Speaker 1>at the elite level that I think they're capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for sure. You know they're winning games, I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it's their best football. Great to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Chris, Thanks Matt be good.

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<v Speaker 1>or stream us live on the Peacock Act. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a controversy going on. It's a continuation of a controversy

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday late in the show where we found out from

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Palmer he got the case that is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>have the Heisman Trophy in it for his induction into

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<v Speaker 1>the College Football Hall of Fame last night in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>But the key to opening this very secure case is

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<v Speaker 1>not there with it. I don't know if the Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>is in there. I'm hoping it is, but we can't

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<v Speaker 1>find the key. The key has been lost, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is some sort of bait and

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<v Speaker 1>switch Indiana Jones, where somebody might have put a forty

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<v Speaker 1>pounds sack of sand in there, and maybe they have

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<v Speaker 1>the Heisman trophy on their mantel. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just know I went in the back in the back

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<v Speaker 1>room guys. As quoting one of the back room guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I will blow the damn lid off this. If I

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<v Speaker 1>get immunity, you can grant that. I can grant immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know is Dylan in the back is pointing

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<v Speaker 1>a finger at Mario and says, I will blow I

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<v Speaker 1>will blow this out of the water if I'm granted immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am going to grant Dylan immunity here. Might

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<v Speaker 1>have to put him on the air here. But like

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<v Speaker 1>the Sammy the Bull of the back room, Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take long before they started to turn on one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Hill like Henry Hill. Yes, yes, but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some finger pointing as I walked back and

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<v Speaker 1>the big german is just there listening, and I went,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow. And then that's when I got the bombshell.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me immunity and I'll blow this damn thing

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<v Speaker 1>out of the water. Yes time. So Marrio already has

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<v Speaker 1>that ill devised basketball shot that will never let him

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<v Speaker 1>live down. And we're gonna put this on top of

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<v Speaker 1>him too. As to what this whole Carson Palmer Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>situation is, well, that's a lot to handle. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like you're shifting blame there. Do you like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's been narrowed down to just Dylan and Mario

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<v Speaker 1>as the culprits? Okay, but you were the overseer. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I was the delegator for the delegator slash over here,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton got suspended for a year. That's true. That's

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<v Speaker 1>very true. Okay, and look, I will take it upon

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<v Speaker 1>myself that I let you be involved in it. Therefore

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<v Speaker 1>I let Dylan and Mario, so it is on me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a Dan Patrick show. I do take full responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I chose the wrong people to trust you did. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was poor job by you. Yes, I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>could handle that. I just while we're firing off blame everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>I just do want to say that it was you

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<v Speaker 1>who put it in the box. Correct. No, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was the did the update from yesterday, You

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<v Speaker 1>were the one who actually placed there. I watched it close.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put it in. I don't pick up something

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<v Speaker 1>that heavy. I mean, I lift this show every day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. I'm not. I have people who carry

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<v Speaker 1>around my trophies. I watched said heisman be put into

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<v Speaker 1>the suitcase. I did not, yes, permission to badge your

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<v Speaker 1>the witness. So you did have the opportunity to say,

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<v Speaker 1>how exactly are you planning on putting the key in

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<v Speaker 1>with this mail it out so that everything runs smoothly

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<v Speaker 1>on there and when they get no, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know how said key arrived with said heisman to begin with. Odd,

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<v Speaker 1>But why shouldn't matter how it came if you think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain specific way that I should go back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>why would I think somebody shipping it out is going

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<v Speaker 1>to slap a key on an envelope on a suitcase

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<v Speaker 1>and it's got the heisman in there. You just said

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<v Speaker 1>moments ago you should have known bet as to who

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<v Speaker 1>to delegate this responsibility to, so that basically means you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that there would be some incompetence involved. All the

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<v Speaker 1>more reason why you should say, here is exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to send the key, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust you guys to send it back the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I delegate TOD so people can have

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of responsibility. That delegation you claim from being

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<v Speaker 1>an executive producer on here to a lowly booker in

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<v Speaker 1>the back corner, a self titled executive producer. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I'm just a booker. Actually, I said, senior

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<v Speaker 1>vice president of talent slash executive producer. But now if

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation, I'm just a booker, I get the guests.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened with the key. I will

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<v Speaker 1>give Dylan immunity and I will talk to him during

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<v Speaker 1>the commercial break and I will get to the boy

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<v Speaker 1>him of this bombshell. But really, we got to find

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<v Speaker 1>the key. That's it, no matter what, no matter who's

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<v Speaker 1>to blame, we got to find the damn key for

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<v Speaker 1>the heisman. Carson Palmer was inducted into the College Football

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame last night in Las Vegas, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have his heisman on display. Who wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have their heisman with him in there in Vegas? Right, Fritzie,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have at least that you're the heisman

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<v Speaker 1>trophy whatever. Romo's there and you got that over Romo. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all you got it. Tony Romo got inducted

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<v Speaker 1>to Carson Palmer brings out the suit case and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like ballgat and that's like scoreboard. Tony Romo doesn't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Romo brought the same number of heisman's to

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<v Speaker 1>the ceremonial. Wow, too soon, dang too soon. I somehow

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<v Speaker 1>gave Carson Palmer the heisman. I did because he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>open it up. So he has his heisman suitcase and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the key for the heisman, but we

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<v Speaker 1>did say I hope it works out and a good

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<v Speaker 1>luck to you. I did put out that emails like

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<v Speaker 1>a complete sensitive to the situation. I'll tell you one

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<v Speaker 1>day he'll be able to figure out how to open

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<v Speaker 1>the case without the strug. But didn't they send an

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<v Speaker 1>email saying, hey, no luck, we haven't found the key,

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<v Speaker 1>and then didn't you follow up with an insensitive like

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't meant to be in some good weekend guys? Yeah? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>About twelve minutes later, I said, any luck opening that

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<v Speaker 1>even though they just said that we can't. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Well, I don't know what I'm gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel terrible because you know, I got Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer gave us his heisman, loaned it to us, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've lost it. And that's that's a bummer. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>really believe it's a chance in that case? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we need HAROLDO. River to show up that

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<v Speaker 1>there's something other than the heisman trophy in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. I don't know if you would take the

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<v Speaker 1>key out of the envelope if you weren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>look inside the package inside the suitcase and steal the

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.200
<v Speaker 1>heisman trophy altogether and put sand in there. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>why are you laughing about this time? I'm just just

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of them opening the case and breaking this

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<v Speaker 1>thing open and it's something other than the Heisman trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not funny, but it's that's just wild that could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly even be something that could be existing there. Yes,

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like geraldo and he finally opens up

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that tomb and there's nothing more there al Capone's vault

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<v Speaker 1>there by the way segue. The Heisman finalists were announced

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<v Speaker 1>Aidan Hutchinson, Kenny Pickett, c J. Stroud, and Bryce Young. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young, the expected winners, already on record of saying

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<v Speaker 1>there's no chance, but that's coming to the dead. Patrick's yes, Pa.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of those young men will not have a heisman,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Carson Palmer. Uh. You know, it'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>better conversation piece if you just put the briefcase on

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<v Speaker 1>the mantel and people wanted to know what was in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just say, oh, the heisman heisman is in there.

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.119
<v Speaker 1>That's that's all you need. Yes, yes, I'll just answered

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, which he never does in it show. I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's usually very annoyed at people who call him

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<v Speaker 1>during the show, but this, this must be very important. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't give you. The hour two poll is actually

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<v Speaker 1>from mostly from Twitter. Who's to blame. Our choices are

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Dylan in the back, Mario in the back, You,

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Palmer, the Heisman people, the College Football Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a writing for Mark Emmert, the NCAA president, Emirate.

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<v Speaker 1>How about the shipping company. Yes, we won't name which

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<v Speaker 1>shipping company. The shipping company, Yeah, Paul, you answered the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an area code that was the same air

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<v Speaker 1>code as the College Football Hall of Fame. I picked

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<v Speaker 1>it up and there was no answer. I'm not making

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<v Speaker 1>that up. It was the same airy code. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're preparing a statement. Oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is horrible. And I had people yesterday saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good bit with the Carson Palmer Heisman thing. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a bit. There there is no key. Our

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<v Speaker 1>truth is always better than our fiction. Yes, yeah, we're

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>not good at fiction. Our truth is is great. It's entertaining. Yes,

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.199
<v Speaker 1>what if you pitch a screenplay and you told the

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.160
<v Speaker 1>story the first would be like, wait, why did Carson

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Palmer send his hsband? I know, I know we're not

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna get anything anymore. We don't win awards. We ask

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:26.439
<v Speaker 1>people to send their awards. Darius Rutgers Grammy from Hooting

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the Blowfish. But he did get that back. I just

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>send that back when the Grammys they saw it on

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>my desk and I'm like, what get that back? So

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>we're one for two. Harold Reynolds got his Gold Glove back,

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 1>so I'm two for three right now. That one though,

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>we were like, ah, we'll just send this one back.

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm Mac Jones. I'm two for three last night. Yes,

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a big incompletion and big like a red zone

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in completion. I've lost the We've lost the key on

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>this one. Yes it is. Somebody picked it off, damn.

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna make jokes, you know they joke boy.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about Harold Reynolds. Couldn't even count

0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>that you could get like a garage sale in your neighborhood.

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Gold glove spray painting, whatever cardboard thing that was. That's

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that's offensive to all Gold Glove Award winners. I don't

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of errors if that's what you're gonna get.

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Todd. I'm with you. Ball go for your legs.

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't need that. Just you know what, I'm a bronze,

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a silver. It's the most disappointing award I've ever seen.

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>No offense. If you would have said, hey, look at

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>my kid, did I'd go, oh, that's cute, that's nice.

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, Timmy, what is he nine? Yeah? Yeah, you

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 1>got some rustoleum, but all this Macaronians cigar box here

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you go, Merry Christmas, Dad. The exact same vibe. The

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>gold glove was. Really they spray painted two baseballs and

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it looked like it would be a Little League troph

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.119
<v Speaker 1>fee of sorts, and then they just put a glove

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and spray painted that as well, and they went, hey,

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>gold glove, and that's it. Yes, time my son's participation trophy.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>And don't think of age seven would rival putting it

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>next to that gold glove. You'd probably take my kid's

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>trophy over that cliff. Yeah, that was really disappointing. Like

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the heisman's heavier than what you think. I shouldn't be

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 1>bringing up the heisman again. I got a distance myself

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>from then. Yes, mclovin. Yeah, tis trying to change the

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>subject by ripping the gold. Oh yeah, all right, So

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to grant immunity from Dylan, who works in

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the back. He was part of the shipping team. I'm

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>doeld the brain trust. Yeah, exactly as Mario said, are

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you going to trust a guy who looks like he's homeless?

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>And then Dylan then said, you look like a failed

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>gym teacher. So character assassination, Yeah, you don't have facts

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>on your side. You make fun of the witness. Yeah,

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you look like a failed gym teacher. Is pretty pretty good.

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good, pretty just as a line not necessarily

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>directed at Mario, but that's a pretty good line. But

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it is directed at Mario makes it

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>even makes a little bit of gangster. Oh man, any

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:21.360
<v Speaker 1>who Tom in Ohio? Hi Tom? What's on your mind today?

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Hi Dani? Are you doing? Oh well, not great? Not

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>great today? I you know, I'm getting a good laugh

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>out and everything, just like everybody else's. But um, if

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>that case gets opened up and that heisman is missing,

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I think the levity will end. Nobody's gone. Somebody's going

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to want that heisman back or I mean, Carson's laid

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>back guy and he's happy, good lucky, and it was

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in his garage and I understand all that, but that's

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>his Heisman trophy day. I know, Tom, I'm I'm bummed down.

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm being serious, I'm bummed down. What touch? Someone called

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the College Football Hall of Favor, that's what it was.

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Then what happens there holding it for ransom with one

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of those electronic voices that you can't trace who it is, Paulie,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>would you check eBay just to see if somebody got

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a heisman up there? Yeah, Seton, I did yesterday. Actually

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I did check eBay yesterday. There's a lot of replicas.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to come across a Carson Palmer. I

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>just feel bad. I mean, he's inducted into the College

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Football Hall of Fame and he said, hey, I need

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the heisman. They want to display it. You know, boxed

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>it up, sent it out, got the box that it's in,

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>can't open it, no key. Yeah, Polly, this isn't the

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>wildest way a USC athlete has lost a Heisman trophy,

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's one of many. Now, OJ, we had nothing

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to do with Oj. We had nothing to do with him.

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush. We had nothing today. That's not true. Well

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>you did. Yes, we had a little something to do

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with Reggie Bush's heisman being found and sent back. Yeah. Yeah,

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Paully was on a mission. Oh I got some tips,

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes you did. It's like the Heisman committee didn't know

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.719
<v Speaker 1>where the heisman was and Paully goes, oh find it. Well, yeah,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>they wanted it back and they it wasn't sent back. Okay,

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>find the key then, yes, Ton, you can get a

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>carsh and Paul or pretty much any heisman mini holiday

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>ornaments for fourteen ninety nine as a consolation. For some reason,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a thing of sand that it's not in there?

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Would he accept that fifteen dollars ornament as an alternative?

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>There has to be a master key for these heisman boxes.

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Is it shaped like the heisman guy and a little

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>That might be the giveaway. But somebody opened up the envelope.

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>We have a picture of the envelope that was opened up. Yes,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm told by one of my sources that when they

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>went to the shipping facility, the person the shipping facility

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>did some extra taping to make sure it was more cure.

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>The envelope. Okay, so when it when it left our

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>shores or our area, it was more secure than when

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>we handed off to the shipping people. More secure that

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the person felt. That was what I heard from the

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>back room. Yeah, but I don't know what to believe

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in the back room. Of course, there is there is

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>chaos back there right now. Roger in Indiana. Hi, Roger,

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind? I have the key I had

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to pull over. I was laughing so hard. You can't.

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell me there's anout a locksmith in Las

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Vegas to get into that thing. I all I know

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm told through Paulie from Carson Palmer's people

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in the College Football Hall of Fame. That's all I know,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>because I said to Carson, is there a master key?

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>But he couldn't open Okay. All I know is he

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't open up and display his heisman last night at

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the College Football Hall of Fame. That's all I know.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>All Right, I gotta go in the back I gotta

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>see if I'm going to Grant and Dylan immunity, and

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>then we'll find out if Mario is the person to blame.

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.600
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0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>went in the back. During the commercial break, Mario is

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>back there, Dylan is back there, and they're pointing figures

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 1>at one another about who is the one to blame

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>for the missing key for Carson Palmer's Heisman case. Can

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys have Dylan come out? He can sit in

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>mclovin's chair and all I gave him immunity. But Dylan's

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>going to come out. I granted him immunity. Mario wants

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>immunity as well. But Mario is supposed to be the

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>one who was heading this up. So Dylan is the

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>one who I guess is responsible for shipping out the

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Heisman case and a key attached to it. Yes, Paul Dan,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>before you get to the interview for radio people, how

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>would you describe what Dylan looks like? What was the

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator who went to work for the Lions from

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots Matt Patricia. Oh? Yeah, he looks like if

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>met Patricia was more down on his luck. I have

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>gotten that for Okay, a few more vices. Perhaps this

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>isn't the first time that Dylan has been granted immunity

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>in his life. But you you have the opportunity here,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a statement to make. I do um. First

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>of all, I wanted the record I'm not a rat,

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>never been a rat. But um I would like to

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>clear my name. Okay, So Mario, it's Mario's fault really

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, Okay, I was instructed

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>by Mario, which I should have ignored, to be honest,

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>But he said, it's in an envelope tape to the

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>outside of the case. So so it was already taped. No,

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 1>it was not. It had been when it got here.

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So I instructed to tape the key to the side

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of the heisman. Yes, okay by Mario. Okay, who is

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>your boss? Um? No, but he said, and I definitely

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't listen to him. Um, So I take it to FedEx. First.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I put it in a white envelope, the one that

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>we've seen in the photograph, the one that was opened.

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>The one that was open. It was not open at

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the time. It was sealed. And then at FedEx it

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>was put into a plastic sleeve which was then stuck

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>onto the case. So a second layer of protection by

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the shipping company. Yes, and I was not told to

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>do otherwise by the professionals at said shipping company, thereby

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>clearing me of any guilt sort of. Did you at

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>any point think this seems maybe a little haphazard. I'm

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest, Dan, I didn't, which is probably worse.

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But it looked pretty legit to me at the time. Um,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll go back in the in the back. Okay,

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I hope that's enough to you know, make immune do

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it worthwhile. Nobody's going to be fired. I'm not gonna

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>fire anybody that's too bad that kills the bed of

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>ruins the bed. Yeah. See, yeah, I don't want to

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>make a serious situation more serious. But the second layer

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of envelope that was there, the plastic one that was

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>then the paper one was put inside of another one

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that was then taped to the side of it. Yeah,

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>really really really makes it sound like somebody deliberately opened it,

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and makes me much more concerned that the Heisman trophy

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>is actually inside the box. Wait you think the heisman

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>is in there? It makes me wonder even more if

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it's actually in there, if if that means somebody for

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the paper to have been ripped the way that it was,

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it would have had to gone through the plastic one

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and then the paper one, and then somehow the key

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>fell out of both of those. That's two layers. Oh man,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that's very nervous. I believe somebody opened it up, but

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know there were any markings

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>on the box of if it looked like they tried

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to open it up. You know, we we don't know

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>because did Carson Palmer mention the heisman last night when

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he was there for the Hall of Fame induction. Yes,

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>we have this brief piece of audio. Okay, that's it,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that's all. That's it. Yeah, the actual audio cars. No,

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the movie seven, isn't it. That's not true? No, No,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that's actual audio Carson, isn't that Brad Pitt? Yes, So

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was a paralegal. I have some legal expertise.

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I heard Dylan talking, and immediately I could tell he

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>had been lawyered up, like he knew. He was like

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>here too. Therefore, like he was a little too fancy.

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you trust him. Okay, yes see.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>He also said Mario told me to do it, and

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I did, which is not good enough for me. That's

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>he said. He said. He's like, well he told me too.

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, yeah, you're supposed to know better, though,

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>although Dylan did admit to not knowing better. Yeah. At

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>the same time, so he wears socks when it's eight

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>degrees out, I mean he wears no socks. He wears

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>slip ons when it's eighth degrees out come on. Yeah,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>but I can't dinging for that. I mean, there's other things.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>You do. Get the sense though that if anybody here

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>could break into that box, it's Dylan, yes, and I

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>who needs the key? I'll just bust into it myself.

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>God it, I feel so bad if somebody has stolen

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>that amazement. But why take out the key if you

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't use the key like I don't. That's what I

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know here. And also why stick the envelope back

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>on there? Ripped off? Like if it was ripped open,

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and then what they tape it back on. That doesn't

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense either, Like just throw the

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.360
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<v Speaker 1>Kirk curb Street ESPN college football analyst Herbie, how is

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>your day? I'm good man. How you doing well? I've

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>had better days, had a bad day yesterday and it's

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>continued today. We've lost the key to Carson Palmer's heisman. Uh,

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you know the container. We sent the box back to him.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>He'd loaned us his heisman for about a year and

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>then we sent it back and he wanted it for

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the College Football Hall of Fame induction. And he has

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the case, he doesn't have the key to open it up.

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I know, what are you gonna do?

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You can, you can't? Is it too late to him?

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you know? Because you guys do the Heisman Show,

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and do you know if they're is one key that

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>fits all Heisman suitcases? Well you know there's only one

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>person that you can ask that too, and that's the

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Commissioner of College Athletics. That's Chris Fowler. So I have

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>no idea at all how that works. Chris is intimately

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>involved in the Heisman. I'm just merely a pawn, PAULI

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>can you check with Fowler and Fritzie and just see

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>is there a key that will open that up so

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I can get this to cars. I don't want him

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to break open that suitcase with the heisman there, But

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's my problem. You're working the Heisman Show. Aren't you. No, No,

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the last year, it's it's um. It's honestly a blessing

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>because we do Army Navy UM that same day. And

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>all these years we would do Army Navy with College

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Game Day, whether we're Baltimore, Philly or in this case

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey it Met Life and then we would leave,

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we go back and you know, you'd love to do

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the Heisman, but Lee and I, you know, we're in

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the back of the room. A couple of questions, and

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>truly Fouler and the four or five finalists, it's really

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>their show. Well, we last year got off of it

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and we got to stay. For two years ago we

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>got to stay for Army Navy and first time all

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>these years are doing game Day in the morning. Never

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>got to stay and it's such a cool scene. And

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>so no, this year I'll be I'll be there again

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>watching Army and Navy fired up the home depot show

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>College Game Day. Army Navy will be at MetLife Stadium.

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>They'll be there this Saturday, nine am until noon Eastern.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I tell people, if you get any opportunity to go

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to an Army game, I haven't. I haven't been to

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 1>a Navy game at Navy, but I've been to West

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Point quite a few times, and I've been to the

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Army Navy game as well. There's just something magical about it.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Um you know, when it is when whenever you start

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 1>to feel bad about who we are or what's going

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>on in our country, just go and you see, you know,

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so many positive things. We still got a shot here.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>That's true. You reminded of like, oh my gosh, this

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is incredible, you know, to see these guys and girls

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, it's it's impressive. I brought this up

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the show, and I don't know if it

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.280
<v Speaker 1>happens anytime soon, but I wonder with name, image and likeness,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like Kenny Pickett, it Pitt, what if he said to

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the Peach Bowl, Hey, I don't you know, you pay

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>me fifty thousand dollars, I'll play in the game. If not,

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get ready for the draft. That it's it's

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>not a meaningful game. And maybe the fact that we're

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 1>going to expand the playoffs here soon. But you know,

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey did it. What six years ago, Leonard Fournette.

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>People freaked out, you know, Cavon Thibadeaux is going to

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>sit out and nobody's gonna care about that. I just

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>wonder if does it benefit Kenny Pickett to play in

0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>this Peach Bowl game. UM, it's just a pit is

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>on how you're wired. I'm not going to try to

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>say these guys should or should not play. I'm from

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a different generation. You don't like you. I tried to

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>do the best I can. You know, I have four

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>boys that are all twenty one and younger. I mean,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I get to this generation. It's not like I have

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>my head in the sand. But I don't have to

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>agree with it. Katy Pickett and pitt Or in Unchartered Waters.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you say the Peach Bowl like we're saying

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Bonnet Bowl. That's a huge game for that

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>school and for Kenny Pickett, who's the leader of that team.

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard him speak. I have no idea what

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>his intentions are. But to me, there's something about putting

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>on a uniform one last time with your boys and

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>going out and competing that outweighs. This is just me

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that would outweigh You just played twelve games, some cases

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>thirteen games, and now you're gonna say I'm not going

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to play in this last game to get ready for

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the draft. If that's how you feel, then been more

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>powered to you. But I think you have to look

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>at at a kind of a case by case basis.

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 1>The fact that Mario Cristobal left Oregon, he's the head

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>coach at Miami, Thibodeau decides that he's gonna forego. That's

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>not really a shocker there. But I would be really

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>surprised if Kenny Pickett doesn't play in that Bowl game

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>for pitt with the year that they've had. What did

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you make of his fake slide? Um, If I'm a

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive coach, I'm gonna I'm just gonna start laying quarterbacks

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>out and deal with the consequences, because he clearly started

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to go into slide mode. Give him credit for his instincts.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's not really known for his feet and

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>his athletic ability out in the open field. He's known

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>for what he can do in the pocket throwing a

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>ball around. But he got out there and he started

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>out as you know, he started to go down and

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the safety's pulled up, and then he recognized that it

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>was almost like you're in practice you know, in the

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 1>whistle blew and it was the end of a period.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>But the defender. If I'm a coach and I see

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>that film, even if it wasn't my team, I'm going

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to use that as a copy to show, like, until

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>he's down, you lay him out. I mean, people, you

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>know how it is when a quarterback's in the open field.

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like every bunch of great White sharks

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to go get some chum. I mean, they're they're

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to not just bring him down, they want to

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>they want to end his day. And so, you know,

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think after seeing that, the reaction I've heard from

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys that played defenses. You know, the

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>whole reason they got us pulling up is so these

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>guys are going to go down and now he pulls

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that no more. You know that that kind of attitude.

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Why did so many people doubt Nick Saban this past weekend,

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Well because we've watched him play all year and they

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>haven't lived up to their their own standards, you know,

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and so I think a lot of us thought something's

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>not quite right. Yeah, Bryce Young's a phenom, Jameson Williams

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a phenom. The offensive line's got has some major issues.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Not one week or two weeks, but all year they've

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>had some concerns and Bryce Young's atholetic abilities kind of

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>pulled him out where he's had to scramble the throw.

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 1>And now they're playing Georgia, the one team that's been

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>consistent all year Defensively, I think a lot of people

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>just knew that Nick Saban's team, they never show up

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to a stadium as an underdog. You knew they'd have

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a chip on their shoulder, But was it going to

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be enough to beat that Georgia team that we've watched

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>only team all year that's been consistent. You know, sometimes

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you let up, you survive a game. Georgia didn't have that.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>They were consistent all year long. So it was really

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>more of not doubting Nick Saban, but the respect you

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>have for Georgia. And then we were reminded pretty quickly

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>that's still Nick Saban in his prime, standing on that sidelines,

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 1>still knows how to get his team ready to play

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in these big games. So, um, we were all I

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>think we apologized on Sunday for doubting him. Cincinnati, I

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>think you can count on you can count on one hand.

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>How many times we've doubted him since two thousand and eight. Well,

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you were part of the rat poison. I was, Yes, yes,

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm usually part of the rat poison, giving him too much, uh,

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, respect and to too many compliments. Isn't that

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing that Saban rails on us if we say nice

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>things about his team, and then he rails on you

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>when you don't say so he's just using the media. Oh,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure did a great job. He did. He does

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>and I knew. I knew he was going to use that,

0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and I knew. I think about that Alabama roster every

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>game they play, coaches guarding against complacency, literally every game

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>they play. You know, the outside noises Alabama's gonna win,

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna win, They're gonna win. And finally you saw

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>him in the Iron Bowl. I mean they very easily

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and should have lost that game to Auburn, who's not

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>having a great year. It was a rivalry game. They're

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>down ten, nothing like eight minutes to go. If Tank

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Bigsby gets a first down, the game's over and they

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lose in the final minute of game. But he comes

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>up a yard short, so Auburn hasta punt and Bryce

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Young ends up leeding him on a long you know,

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety whatever it was, five yard touchdown drive in it

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>really a Heisman moment for him. But that's how they

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 1>looked the weeks before, almost stumbling around, and so it

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:31.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that far fetched. But you just knew he would

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>have that. Nobody believes, nobody believes you can play with

0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>this Georgia team, and they showed up. They have not

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>looked like that all year, and of course they save

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>it for the biggest stage of the year. Talking to

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Kirk kurb Street, College Game Day will be at Army

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Naming MetLife Stadium this Saturday, nine am until noon, and

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Herbie also part of the College Football Playoff SEMIS in

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the National Title Game January eleventh. Cincinnati's chances better chance

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 1>against Alabama or Georgia. I think Cincinnati has a chance

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.240
<v Speaker 1>in this game because of the way they played defense,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think if they played Georgia they would probably

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of a better chance just because

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.720
<v Speaker 1>of the how explosive Bryce Young and James Fon Williams

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.760
<v Speaker 1>can be in the passing game. John Mitchie, he probably

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>as you know that number eight he's out. You know

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.720
<v Speaker 1>he's torn his acl and he was such a great

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>compliment to the vertical stretch of what Williams could do downfield.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>He was always underneath on flans and little outside routes

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and just finding space. So you had to be worried

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>about about both of them because he was more yards

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>after the catch, you take that away. Luke Fickle is

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a defensive oriented minded coach. He's got a veteran defense

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that went toe to toe with Georgia one year ago

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in their bowl game, and I think it gave him

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of confidence coming into this year. I think

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>people that are couldn't name two players on the Cincinnati

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>roster and probably think Cincinnati's gonna get killed. I would

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>be careful there. I don't. I don't. I just don't

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>see that. I think Cincinnati, you know, Desmond Ritter, the

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 1>quarterback has been around, played in a lot of big games.

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>They've got a running back in Jerome Ford who actually

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>was you know, played big time football at Alabama before

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he transferred over, and they're gonna show up. It's going

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the shoes on the other foot going back

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to Alabama always being complimented, Oh you're gonna win by twenty,

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>no problem, and Cincinnati's gonna show up with an attitude,

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati's gonna show up feeling disrespected, and will it again

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>be enough. We'll have to see. But I see that

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>game being competitive more so than getting ugly. Is there

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a tactful way for these coaches to leave for one

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>another job? Like could Brian Kelly have done it differently

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that would have appeased more people? Yeah? I think the

0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>challenge I think people don't understand is the recruiting aspect

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.839
<v Speaker 1>of it and the timing of the recruiting. The early

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>signing period is a week from tomorrow. These athletic directors,

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're running a quote unquote tempo offense

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to try to make a good hire, to get a

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>guy to a podium, win the press conference, and then

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>literally walk out of that press conference into a into

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a high school and start recruiting. And so there is

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>urgency on excuse me, the UFC side or you know,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the Notre Dame side or the LSU side, there's urgency

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>to try to make a hire because you want to

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>get the right guy and and try to salvage a

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>recruiting class. What we always focus on is how does

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly leave his team like that? How does Lincoln

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Riley leave his team like that? So for me, because

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I talked with a lot of these athletic directors and

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>coaches kind of behind the scenes, Um, you know these

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>in the month late latter part of November and in December,

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of a game because they want

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to be respectful of a coach trying to finish his

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>season in you know, in Luke Fickle's case, he was

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>so locked in on what his team was trying to do.

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately he could have had his choices of USC,

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of LSU, of Notre Dame, potentially Oklahoma, and he was

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>so focused on what his team was doing. He was

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>letting Jimmy Sexton know, listen, man, I don't want to

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>go there. I don't. I don't. Well, you're gonna miss

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>out on this job. I okay, I'm really in today's

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>day and age, you got to really respect He wasn't

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just a candidate. I mean, he was the front runner

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for every one of those jobs and he and he

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to finish the race. So it cost him

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>all these jobs because of the timing and how do

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you do it tactfully. I think you you finish your

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>regular season. If you go to a conference championship, you know,

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.959
<v Speaker 1>you have your agent or whoever talking to the ad,

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>say how he's coming. Let him get to the finish line.

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 1>You get to the finish line. If you qualify for

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the playoff, you go do your press conference

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>at your new school, you start to put the staff

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>together behind the scenes, and then you go back and

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>try to finish the playoff like that. That's what ideally

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see. You imagine if Notre Dame,

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 1>if there were some upsets in front of them and somehow,

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:28.399
<v Speaker 1>some way Notre Dame made the playoff. Marcus Freeman's first

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>game as a head coach would have been in a

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>playoff because of what happens. So it's weird. I don't

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>know if there's a the perfect way to do it,

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>but but I think the recruiting aspect of it and

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to like an Oklahoma's case, quit the they were hemorrhaging,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, losing recruits. Their brand was just getting lapped

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>by the day. They had to make a higher and

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 1>do it quickly, and you know they eventually got their guy.

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's a it's very messy because I

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>think because of the timing more than anything, I wondered

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>if Oklahoma was going to match from what I was

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>told that Lincoln Riley wasn't going to go to LSU.

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 1>LSU thought they had him. He went back to Oklahoma

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, you want to match this, and they

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>said no, and then somebody caught wind of it with USC,

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>they swoop in and then all of a sudden they

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hire Lincoln Riley. Oklahoma going to regret not matching that

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>LSU offer. Well, And I don't know if there's one

0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent truth to that. I'm really heavily involved with

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys and the and the agents

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and ads, and I you know, Mike Bond had the

0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>most time event Mike Bone had the most time of

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody the ad at USC, and I think he had

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of his a list of five or six guys

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>from from word go, which was I can't remember when

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Clay Hilton got let go. I mean it was way

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>way way back, and he was he was swinging for

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the fences from the beginning behind behind closed doors, and

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I know that Lincoln was a name that that he

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was kind of on his dream list of guys like

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Dabbo and like huge names. And I think, you know,

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 1>when exactly Lincoln found out is debatable and all that,

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to speculate, but I think Oklahoma

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>felt they did match. They were the Sunday after the bedlam.

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>They were doing everything they could with Joe Castiglione and

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>their president trying to say, hey, listen, listen, let us,

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 1>let us try to do this. We'll get you this,

0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll get you that. And from what I understand, it

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was more nothing against Oklahoma and nothing against what they

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing, and nothing against going eventually to the SEC.

0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just a change. I think it

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was a new challenge going to LA and the coaching

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>at USC. I think it was just it was more

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.720
<v Speaker 1>about what that had to offer than it was what's

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>lacking at Oklahoma. So and then you know, they went

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>out and found a former assistant and coordinator at Brett Bettebles,

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think both sides end up in

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a good spot. But of course we won't really know

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 1>until we're three or four years down the road from now.

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Not all of them, all of them always work out,

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. Her'd be great to talk to you.

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>My best to the guys and have fun this weekend

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>with Army and Navy. I thought of you when the

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Flyers had that big win, and anytime UD wins a

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 1>big game, I think of you with with hoops because

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I go back as a kid to Rosie Chapman and

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and some of those teams that they had. You know,

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like in middle school and those those U

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 1>D teams and I just fell in love at a

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>young age Don donnaher and then the gel Night in

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that group. I mean, UD has always been always been

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a fun brand to watch and an easy team to

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 1>pull for. So that was a great win. Hopefully they

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>have a big, a big year this year. Thank you,

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>herd be good to talk to you. Safe travels, Okay

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you got in holiday Kirk kurb Street