1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: At least. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drop on Dy, Matt Williamson 4 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: and Matt. There was ever a weekend in the NFL 5 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: that makes you appreciate the consistency of Chris Baus. Wow, 6 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: this was it. I didn't know you were going there, 7 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: but wow, I mean record setting, Yeah, extra points. I 8 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: mean field kick right, the whole deal, the whole deal. 9 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: It's certainly true. I mean he besides Tucker, I don't 10 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: know the kickers well. But is there anyone you trade 11 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: him for? I mean, he's certainly and yeah, there's some 12 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: other guys out there and they, you know, maybe they 13 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: get some more opportunities they play for. Maybe I'm more 14 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: high profile team that scores more points. But he's made 15 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: of his kicks since the season, a lot of them. Weather, 16 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: isn't it's more than by the way, Yeah, I'm sure 17 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: it is. And it's not like he has a weak 18 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: leg by any stretch. I mean some of those are long. 19 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if it still holds up, but hines 20 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: Field is considered at least one of the hardest you 21 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: know fields to kick in, and I don't think it's 22 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: I did a study on that, like the second or 23 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: third year that the stadium was was open after it 24 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: was open um, and it was remarkably difficult. Now since 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: they closed in that opened end a little bit with 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: the seats in behind it, and everything has changed, the 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: winds a little bit, I don't think it's quite as 28 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: difficult as it used to be. But you're still kicking 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: in the in the elements, still kicking in the elements. 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's not a dome, you know, right. Yeah, 31 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because like my my three years at pit 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: were as the stadium was open. Every game I was 33 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: there was at Hines Field and they were the first ones, 34 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: so I was there all the time, and once a 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: week I'd take all the specialists down and a bus 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: and they would kick and punt and goof off basically, 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I toward kids through there as 38 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: the stadium is being built. My theory on it though was, yeah, 39 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the winds are a little goofy, but the footing was bad. 40 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Early on the plant, it wasn't so great. Yeah, that 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: didn't help, but you know, anymore, you don't even think 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: about it when Boswell steps on the field. Even even 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the announcers don't say it as much or you know 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, you just WRT it down. Okay, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Even even in this situation like in Sunday's game. You know, 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers faced a fourth and two if 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: memory service fourth and one, fourth and two, uh, to 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: go up eight points. It was a seven yard kid 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: and it was like no brainers, Yeah, you kicked the 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: field goal there to go up eight and you know 51 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Boswell is gonna make it. And you know, I think, 52 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: first of all, what we was talking special teams, Harvin 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: had two nice puns. One was just a boomer, just 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: killed it and killed it. And Boswell was awesome again 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: to your point, and he made a kick the gup 56 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: call back. You know, I like he had another tough 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: one that could have been, you know, part of his statue. 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: So those guys have Harvin has been up and down, 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: but it's pretty settling, especially with kickers and especially watching 60 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: this weekend, just to have that insurance that safety net 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: of this guy is probably gonna make. Yeah, there's there's 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance this one's going through the anyone 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: to watch the Packer Bengal game. I mean, anybody watched 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the game last night. You know points throughout the league too, 65 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: And if the Colts left seven points on the field 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: in regulation, that's a that's a win. That's the winning margin. Yeah, 67 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're the lion who somebody bombs a 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: super long to beat them, that's what you get for 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: playing them. Make it easy on the opponent. But um no, 70 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: that's a good point. And and honestly, I think the 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: special teams in general has been quite good. I mean 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: especially I know it doesn't count, but if you would 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: accounted the block field goal that I thought it was 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: still he still put it on tape, still put on tape. 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Opponents are not going, okay, if we don't block this up, 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: we gotta they gotta spend more time prepping to play 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers on special teams. That's the point, just because okay, 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: they've blocked two kicks. Now this year, we better be 79 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: on our our our p's and queues here to make 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: sure that that doesn't happen against us, because they've got 81 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: guys who can do it. I remember back in the day, 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: I didn't know this about Ed Reid for a while, 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: but I would talk to some scouts and some real 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: people in the know when he was in his heyday, 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: and several of them all told me, you don't see 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: it much because he's such a star, but this is 87 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the best kick blocker I've ever seen in punt blocker. Like, 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: if you go back to his time at the U, 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: he's got a ton of them, and you can see that. 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Where I'm going with this is I bet Mancy gets 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: a bunch. I'm just saying, like the next ten years 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: in his career, I mean, maybe not the best ever had. 93 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, he had them in Alabama. Yeah, class Campbell 94 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: last night that was like his eighth block. He's he's cheating. 95 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: He's like shock out there right right right, But yeah, 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: certain guys have that that ability. Hayden's actually pretty good 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: at it too. Yeah. Yeah, it's good points. So you 98 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: get too and you know, if you're so concerned about 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: those guys coming off the end, maybe you over shift 100 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: on that somebody comes up the middle. Right, That makes 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: perfect sense. Um a nerd out about snap counts and 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: things like that, and I haven't brought it up in 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: a while, but I just think our audience should know 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: the guys on this team that are playing the most 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: special team snaps. I mean there and sometimes people roll 106 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: their eyes, Why is justin Lane out there? Why is 107 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Benny Snell out there? Those guys are on the field 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: for every special teams, you know, I mean there's a 109 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: lot because they're good at it, because they're good at 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you know Gilbert what I mean. There's about five or 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: six of them core special team guys every team, and 112 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers stressed out a little more than others. You know, 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure on game day sometimes people might roll their 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: eyes of why is this? Why is my guy I'm 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: excited about inactive? You know, like Weatherspoon might be a 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: guy like that Weatherspoon, you know, like good on special teams? Right, 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: He's not as good as Lane, Yeah, I mean it 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't trust trusted as much. So Lane gets his 119 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: jersey dirty. You know. The funny thing is is every 120 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: time one of those guys has a penalty on special 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: teams or there's a penalty on specialty, the immediate reactions 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that guy sucks. Why is he on the team. Danny 123 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Smith's an idiot, you know. Right. Meanwhile, there's flags all 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: over the league on special special teams. Has got to 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: be the most flagged. Yeah, just because you've got a 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: bunch of guys screaming down the field. As the guys 127 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: running by you, maybe you know, you reach out and 128 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe hook him a little bit. It's a hole, yeah, 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: where he's running. He's he gets by you a little 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: bit and you reach your hand out that and and 131 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: it turns into a block in the back, and there's 132 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of little things can happen there. And you're isolated. 133 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: You're out in you're out in space, you know, right 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: in front of the guy catching the football. Everybody, all 135 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the eyes on the officials are like right there in 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: the back, right. I mean, it's a big open space. 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: It's like a big you know, big meadow or field, 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you know. And the other thing too. I also think 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: there's some human nature to it. I mean usually the 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: best special teams players are and coaches are super high energy, 141 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: bounce off the wall type of dudes. And those guys 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: only get to play sometimes twelve fifteen snaps a game. 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna make them count and they're not going to 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: just kind of jog it around, you know, like not 145 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that people league take plays off. If you're the left 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: guard and you're on your sixty second play of the game, 147 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: you may not have the same over a little different. 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: That's why you used like to have a big running 149 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: back that can found the way to defense without question, 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: without question, Which kind of brings me to the last 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: night's game again. You brought up and the Steeler game 152 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: is fourth quarter defense dead? I think so? I think is. 153 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't even care who the matchups are. Yeah, I 154 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: just think that's the league now by now, by that time, 155 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: everybody's figured everything out. I looked it up last night. 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I tweeted this out. The Bengals gave up four hundred 157 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and seventy four yards of total offense. The Browns and 158 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Ravens both gave up more than five hundred. And the 159 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Ravens can't even use like the Bengals. Okay, they they 160 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: played overtime. Yeah, the Ravens Indianapolis never got the ball 161 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: in overtime. They gave up five hundred yards of offense 162 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: and regulation. That's a good point. It wasn't like that 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: was you know, seventy five minutes of football player in 164 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: that game. You know where the Bengals have gone to overtime. 165 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: A couple of times we talked about that Browns game yesterday. 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: It was just the fourth quarter was in the fourth 167 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: quarter quarter. And it's funny because I was asked that 168 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: why does the Steeler Why did the Steelers crumble down 169 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: the stretch against Denver and let him back into it? 170 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of reasons I think. I mean, 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that Bridgewater got more aggressive, start attacking one 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: on one matchups outside the numbers, and but really, deep down, 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that's what the league is now. I mean, 174 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: fourth quarter defense. They also converted three fourth downs. We 175 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: seem more of that as well. Teams are being more 176 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: It's an analytics thing, yeah, you know, and we talked 177 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: about this yesterday. There's no way Vic Fangio goes for 178 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: a fourth down conversion, you know, in his own territory 179 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. No, right, probably the first three quarters, 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: no matter what the situation. But all of a sudden 181 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: he does it in the fourth quarter because they're down 182 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: to touch right right right. Whereas you know, the ants say, okay, 183 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna make fifty let's say of those it was 184 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: fourth and two or something, fourth and four or whatever, 185 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna make it. But if you don't get it 186 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: early in the game, you're screwed, whereas in the fourth 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: quarter we got nothing to lose, you're already losing. And 188 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of I think that's funny too, because everybody 189 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: gives credit, Like the Chargers coach, it was really aggressive 190 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: going for a fourth down against the Browns time and 191 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: time again, and realize what kind of game is in 192 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: good I'm giving them all the cred in the world. 193 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,479 Speaker 1: Don't got me wrong. Hardball has done it for years, 194 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: but nobody and your guy's profession tend to bring up 195 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the fourth and one in the second quarter when the 196 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: guy games tied. Why were you so aggressive and you 197 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: didn't get it? Is what I'm talking about. You know, 198 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: it's as big a play then as it is later, 199 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but that's just don't get killed. 200 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: You get killed for for that when you don't get it. Oh, 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: and you're so smart when you get it, and you're 202 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: so analytically inclined and you know right, and you're an 203 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: idiot when you don't. Belichick, what was that against the 204 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: uh the Colts at one time goes on fourth and 205 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: one in his own territory, doesn't get it and gives 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning the football to thirty five or whatever. And 207 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: that was the whole reason for going for it was 208 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm too afraid of Manning because he's gonna tear right 209 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: through my defense. Back to that, it's almost like the 210 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter defense is dead conversation. These smart quarterbacks know 211 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: all your checks and all the you know, they don't 212 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: allow you even at these halftime adjustments and things. I 213 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: find that funny too. I think a lot of fans, 214 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: and frankly most of them, including myself at times, wouldn't 215 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: be able to watch the tape and know what a 216 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: halftime adjustment is if it bit him in the eye, 217 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they say, you know, 218 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: if the half, if if the second half goes worse 219 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: than the first, they didn't make any halftime adjustments. They 220 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. Halftime adjustments are wonderful. How 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: long is halftimes? Like twelve minutes or something? Right, maybe seven? 222 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: But by the time they walk to their locker, maybe 223 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: use the bathroom for a minute or two, have a 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: water and orange or whatever. Maybe I'm just guessing I 225 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: haven't been half realistic. Get well under ten minutes of 226 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: coach player conversation let's fix some things. The coaches all 227 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: running there like crazy and get on the white board 228 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: and talk. Didn't face to face, but they got a 229 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: p and stuff too, I'm sure. But again, you don't 230 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: adjust when you're when things are working. Why would you too? 231 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say is the league doesn't 232 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: let you just stop, go out back, run some plays 233 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: with some Q cards, you know, watch some tape, install 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: some stuff. Then I mean, we're okay, I'm gonna pause 235 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: this player. I got a big fourth down player. I'm 236 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: gonna walk out to the kitchen, get a sandwich, maybe 237 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: I drink. Yeah, call my buddy, Hey, what was you 238 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: run here? No, it doesn't work that way, right. You 239 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: gotta make a split second decision. Defensive adjustments are really hard. 240 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: And that's why I think that. I mean, I think 241 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: fatigues a thing, but I really think more than anything, 242 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, every offensive coordinators figured you out. 243 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: You know that they there collect out of all you've 244 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: had forty plus plays to see, yes, and and you 245 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: know so much of of of what offensive coordinators do. 246 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: We've We've talked about this before. You'll throw a bunch 247 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: of different packages on the field. That's why people script 248 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: play because this place should follow this one should follow 249 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: this one. You know you're trying to score, but you're 250 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: also trying to It's like a military feint. Okay, if 251 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: we do this, well, they move to the center of 252 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: their their forces here, so and then you know, you're 253 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what they might do to react 254 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: to what you do, and then you react accordingly to that. Well, okay, 255 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: well when we went to when we went with this 256 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: twelve personnel package in the first half, here's what they 257 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: did right now, we can do this off of that. 258 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: Because you're saying you're setting things up for later in 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: the game. For example, a lot of teams, um, they 260 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: might check the cover two verse empty. You know, empty 261 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: is not as uncommon as it used to be, so 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: they probably have more than one base coverage. But the 263 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: whole offensive staff, starting with the low guys on the 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: TODE and poll the you know, the the g A 265 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: types and the quality control guys, start going, well, we've 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: seen a hundred snaps of empty and the Ravens go 267 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: to cover to those times. Might they switch it for us? Maybe, 268 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: but let's run two snaps to cover two early in 269 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: the game. If we see or empty empty to see 270 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: what they do. And if we see cover two twice, 271 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: chances are that's their check because as you often say, 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: there aren't that many hours in the week to put 273 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: in a new Well, we should go to cover three 274 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: this time, or this cloud coverage or whatever. So then 275 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: you start running cover two beaters out of empty, you know, 276 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: like it's not that hard to figure out or the other. 277 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: It's what the Steelers actually talked about in the game 278 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: against green Bay. They in in that situation, Roethlisberger, they 279 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: getting those fourth and short situations. I'm sure green Bay 280 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: had shown in those so in those situations that they 281 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: were playing man defense in those in those short yardage 282 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: type situations, Steelers are expecting a man defense. All of 283 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, Green Bay drops into a zone. I mean, well, 284 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know Matt Cannady said, well, we had 285 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: we had man and zone beaters out there, but you know, 286 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger stepping to the line of scrimmage again, that's why 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: you use motion, but they didn't, and you know, you 288 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of it gives you a chance to Okay, if 289 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: we motioned this guy across and that guy doesn't follow him, 290 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: probably there is own okay, so maybe a check out 291 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: of that, or maybe you look to your guys who 292 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: are running the zone beater routes as opposed to the 293 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: guys running the crossers in the teeth into the teeth 294 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: of the zone. I have two things to talk about that, 295 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: because we talked to Merrill Hodge about that exact thing 296 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: after the game on the Thursday night show I Do 297 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: with Pursuda, and he said all those things he said 298 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: he totally agreed with, but he also said, sometimes you're 299 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: just in the wrong play, you know, I mean, everybody 300 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: guess as wrong at times, or the other people get 301 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: paid to And if Juju or Washington or Claypool or 302 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: whomever realize this is a man beating concept and we're 303 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: getting zone, well, you have sit as a receiver, you 304 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, sit down on the zone to 305 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: be a football player just on the move. Don't just 306 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: run your man route thinking even though it's not gonna 307 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: do any good. You gotta be a football player and 308 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: be like and and that's when people aren't on the 309 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: same page and all that. Things like that, and Ben 310 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: throws a pick saying I thought you figured out this 311 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: was zone and you didn't, or you and the just 312 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: even though you did figure it out, you gotta you know, 313 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: don't just run the wrong play, you know what I mean. 314 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Last note on that, I'm sorry. The other thing that 315 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: also happens to is every defense has some sort of 316 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: check for something they've never seen before. You know, like 317 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: if the Steelers have never used a three by one 318 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: set with nausea as the coming out, and you come 319 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: out with your entire offensive line is to the right 320 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: of your centers, something they've never practiced during the week. 321 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: They have a check. Maybe it's covered to cover three, 322 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever their favorite coverages or wherever their 323 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: check is. Teams find that out immediately, you know. And 324 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: it's not like we're gonna have five different coverages we 325 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: can call out of things we haven't seen before, you know, 326 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: So that it's just kind of how it works. Let's 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: talk offensive line, Matt all right, Um, the Steelers, uh, 328 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: you know Mike Tomlin talked about today he thought that 329 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: this past week against the Broncos was actually a continuation 330 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: of what happened or started to happen against Green Bay. 331 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: That's a good way of putting it, Um, Because I 332 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: asked him, I said, is the challenge now that you've 333 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: done this, doing it again. You know you challenge they 334 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: challenge that offensive line last week. Okay, well you guys 335 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: did this against Green Bay and this was the result. 336 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: We ran the football more effectively. Do it again now 337 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: the now. The idea is, Okay, you put together, you're 338 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: your first, you get your first one yard rusher in 339 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: over a year, nearly a year. Do it again. Um, 340 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: you know that's the challenge. Build, don't yeah, don't rest 341 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: on your laurels here. You gotta go out and do 342 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: this again. It teaches getting some young guys to buy 343 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: into that, well, hey we're here, we've we've fixed it, 344 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: we're you know, everything's okay now, and maybe a coast 345 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think, you know, everybody's I think 346 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: quick to want, for example, Zach Banner back in the lineup, 347 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ready to say you want to 348 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: break that line up right now, coming off your best 349 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: game of the season, and frankly, like you said at 350 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: that point, the Packers game was your best line of 351 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: the game of the season. So you keep improving as 352 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: a unit. I think that with choops gast game is 353 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: a season, you know, I mean, if Banner is clearly 354 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the better player you put Banner in. I don't know 355 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: that he is. I don't know if that's the case. 356 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: Who knows, you know. But it's getting better for sure. 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: And I do think it's a continuation of Green Bay. 358 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: And take even take the opponents out of it. If 359 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: you just isolate the line, they're coming off the ball lower, 360 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: they're coming off the ball harder. They certainly like coming 361 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: forward more than they like going backwards collectively, and they're 362 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: built that way too, And so is Banner about this stuff? 363 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: For you, man, it looks just up on football siders. Obviously, 364 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: we pay attention to attention to that. The Steelers power 365 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: success rate. I like that they use fourth best in 366 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the league. This with a line that everybody's been killing, 367 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: right right, that's for the season. That's for the season. 368 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: The only team is better than them green Bay, Tampa Bay, 369 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City. And they're tied with Tennessee. Okay, like isnt 370 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Kansas City? Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Kansas City. 371 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: And then the Steelers and Titans are tied for fourth. 372 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: That adds up. I mean, that's how the Titans are 373 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: built with their count. Strangely, this is that side note. 374 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City has built a run blocking line for a 375 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: pass blocking team, which is really they also in a 376 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of those those third this is the power success 377 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: rate is in goal to ghost situations that are that 378 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: are thanked inside the two short yardage. I think it's 379 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: third and two, fourth and two fourth of anything for 380 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: lower than fourth and two, so fourth and one, that 381 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Do you convert well? The Steels in 382 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: those situations if you look at a guarantee, if you 383 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: look at Tampa Bay in Kansas City, when they're in 384 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: those situations, they got three wide receivers on the field 385 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: that you have to respect. Probably you know they're they're spreading. 386 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: They don't have a power back, you know, spreading you out. 387 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: But the Steelers in those situations, much with the Titans, 388 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: I would think as well, are getting stacked lines of 389 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: scrimmage without question, extra tight ends on the field, you 390 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: know that type of thing. No, it's a good stat 391 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: and that's how this line's built. I mean they're big mauling. 392 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: I saw that. I mean they were blowing the Broncos 393 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: off the ball. Yeah they were. They were, And I 394 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: thought they did a pretty decent job against Green Bay too, 395 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Frankly, I thought Ben hurt them 396 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: more than the other way around in that game, you know, 397 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: and Ben played much better in this game. So it 398 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: was more obvious that the lines improving. I'm not saying 399 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: the ball more too. Yeah, you know that's the big 400 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: All those things helped, right, So there's things outside. There's 401 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: always things outside the quarterbacks hands, outside receiver's hands. The 402 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: same things true for the line too. That if we're 403 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: really good at run blocking, but we're not going to 404 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: run place right. The thing is stood out to me, Matt, 405 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: was that they would run the ball on first down. 406 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: And if you look at Harris's average on first and 407 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: he carried a ball in thirteen of their nineteen first 408 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: down place and I think they want fifteen or sixteen 409 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: runs period on first down. But then they ran it again. 410 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: They didn't just go, okay, he got four yards of 411 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: let's throw, now it was run. Okay, he got four 412 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: yards there running again, he got three more and now 413 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: was third and three, you know, or if he got 414 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: four more, he picked up the first down, whatever it 415 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: may be, and play action will follow, you know. I mean, 416 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: like that's the next step in this equation that on 417 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: tape right of course, and unfortunately you and I didn't 418 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: get a chance to a show Thursday Friday, so we 419 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: didn't preview Denver as much as we wanted. But I 420 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: do remember, and I said it over and over in 421 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: many airwaves that I was on a stand and Mark 422 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: and I know you said it too in that game, 423 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: going into that game, not knowing that would be successful 424 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: or not. Three runs in the pump was okay by me, 425 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can get into the 426 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: pretty stuff and the efficiency and the analytics and all 427 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: these things after that. But Denver is locking to run 428 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: away from you. Seattle is loocking a run away from 429 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: you without Russell Wilson. If you run it three times 430 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: in a row and you kick on fourth and two, 431 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: all right, I'm fine with it. This is the interesting 432 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: thing about this week's game, and well, I'm sure we'll 433 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: dive into this more as a week goes on. Gino 434 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: Smith has a start of the game. Since it's been 435 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: that long, I mean, if you're the Steelers, I wanted 436 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: to ask Mike Tomlin about this today, there are you know, 437 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: just there's only so many questions that can be asked 438 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: and pass the mic around a lot of stuff, but 439 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him, like, Okay, are you looking 440 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: back at Gino Smith in the preseason? Are you looking 441 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: back at Geno Smith's one start in seen, Yes, that's 442 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: a long time ago, in long I don't know that 443 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: you Are you studying, okay through seventeen times again in 444 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: that in the fourth quarter against again last week against 445 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: the Rams, and of course you study that to no end, 446 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: But that's only seventeen throws. It's a half of football. Yeah, 447 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: there's not just I mean, I would think the preseason 448 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: is important, but they're not gain planning around smith strengths 449 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: for that game, right, you know what I mean? If 450 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Gino loves rolling right, well, they're not gonna have them 451 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: roll right all the time. They don't care, you know. 452 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean you're almost kind of flying blind here this week. Yeah. 453 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: One thing I do know from being in the scouting department, 454 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: and this sort of applies. Well. I mean, of course 455 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: they have a grade and a right up on Gino 456 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: Smith that changes daily, weekly, monthly, no matter what you know, 457 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: and it starts with his college report. He processes these 458 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: things very slowly, very well. Whatever hatees rowand was left, 459 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: and then you you build off the college report but 460 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: nothing's new, I mean unfortunately. I mean he's he's now 461 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: thirty one years old. He came out of college he 462 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: was twenty three. Yeah, that's that's eight years ago. You're 463 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: he's not the same guy that he was when he 464 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: started all sixteen games for the Jets. But there's a 465 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: few things that are. I mean, he's not faster now, right, 466 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, his arm didn't get stronger. If he was 467 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: a slow processor, bad decision maker, then probably still is, 468 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: but he's probably gotten a little smarter. Um. The one 469 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: thing I noticed too, like the Seahawks are very low 470 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: in turnovers. They've turn all over they once or twice 471 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: this year. Part of it because they run like no plays. 472 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: They were the million They can't say they can't get there. 473 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: The offense on the field, right, I mean, I want 474 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: to talk about that at some point too, because I 475 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: did all this geeky work. They run. It's an unbelievable discrepancy. 476 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: They their defense is on the field for twenty more 477 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: players in their offense like every week. I mean, on average, 478 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: it's insane. But anyway, you know, so I went back 479 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, they don't turn the ball over 480 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: very much. Wilson's always been good at that. And then 481 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: I remember him, like Geno Shure used to, well, his 482 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: career touchdown interception, he's start more interceptions seven. Yeah, it's 483 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: now much a lot of that was his rookie year. 484 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: He had twelve touchdown passage. Over his head with the Jets. 485 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: He was he was thirteen and thirteen the next year, 486 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: like where we can hold that against Peyton Manning and 487 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, you know, in their rookie year. I mean, 488 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: you get better, you know, but it's a small sample 489 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: size since then, if you look at it, um, I mean, 490 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: it's still a negative touchdown. And he has played since 491 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: since that rookie year. He's played in twelve games since 492 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: since his second year. So this is the first two 493 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: years he was the quote starter. I think this is 494 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: he's played in twelve games. He's made two starts. Uh, 495 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: he's got five touchdowns in a hundred eighteen passes, five 496 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, which okay, throwing one three, three interceptions. He's 497 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: been sacked eleven times. I do remember sacks being a 498 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: problem with that's bad teams, you know, of course, some 499 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: of those Jets teams. It's we've seen Sam Donald, you know, 500 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: but that's what the that's with the Jets, the Giants, 501 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and now the Seahawks, and I forgot about 502 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers. I mean, he's he's bounced around a little bit. 503 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: He has He's a fraction, a small fraction of the 504 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: quarterback Wilson is. But I don't think they have to 505 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: change their offense from now. That's why you have him 506 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: as a bat. He's the same mold. He's shorter, he's 507 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: a plus athlete, but he doesn't value the football like 508 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Wilson or make the throws Wilson. He can't throw it 509 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: like Wilson will make like three or four wow throws 510 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: a game like how did he how did he fit 511 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: that into that window? Or how did he hit that guy? 512 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: He'll run around and do his his thing back there 513 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, he's he's winning at 514 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: fifty yards down the field and there goes DK Metcalf. 515 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: That's not happening this week. But he is a veteran 516 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: and he's dangerous, you know, Like I would rather have 517 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: these three, but we've seen grad Kowski, left witch Batch 518 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: come in and win a game like this, you know, 519 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: like he's dangerous enough to do that, But I think 520 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: there was maybe even less taple on those guys, like 521 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: maybe the Batchelor starter for a while and left wich 522 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: head zone. But yeah, right, I mean I wonder that 523 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: would be a great question if Tomlin would answer it honestly, Like, 524 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: is the book written on Gino even if he hasn't 525 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: played in three or four years? Maybe it is. The 526 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: chapters are a little thin in recent years, but they're 527 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: real thin. But has he really changed that much? He 528 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: did get to see him, Like last year, his first 529 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: year in Seattle, he got no preseason to see him 530 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: in that offense. At least this year, this year, you 531 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: got something to look at in the preseason. Okay, we 532 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: can do this. You know this it's very vanilla, but 533 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: at least you have something to base you can see 534 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: at the traits or what you remember. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, 535 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: that's something. It's an interesting part of the matchup that Yeah, 536 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: it's a hard I mean, it's an unknown a little bit. 537 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: And how will that The other thing is how we'll 538 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Seattle view their quarterback? Now, are they going to go 539 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: deep as much? Are they gonna try to run? Run, run? 540 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, I would bet Caroll does I mean, that's 541 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: to who he is. Yeah, so we'll see. But they're 542 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: an interesting team to face here. But let me take 543 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lala. You're 544 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When 545 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: we come back, it's Power Ranking Day. Nice. How far 546 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: the Steelers move up this week? We'll find out right 547 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: after this