1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where this year it's more like 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: partly cloudy Monday. I don't know. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: here in my garage and I'm talking to the only 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: person I wanted to talk to on the day where 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: NFL coaches traditionally get fired. But yeah, this year it 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: didn't happen quite as much. It's our NFL national insider 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport back on NFL Daily, what's up being. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry there weren't as many firings as you would like. No, 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't how how many is like an acceptable number? 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: You what were you rooting for? 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: I think it's great. I was going to ask you 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: off the top now, Drod Mayo happened Sunday night. We 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: had a couple in the season, and so it was 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: just one head coach, Doug Peterson that lost his job 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: today before I kind of go through a couple of 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: different situations and just ask you your opinion. Do you 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: think there is any league wide reason maybe for a 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: little more continuity this year than most. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of do so. I think a couple 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: of reasons. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: One, I think owners they've always hated dead money, right, 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: like dead money for players something something we talk about 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: a lot, but dead money for coaches is you know, significant, 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: and there was a time when you know, it was 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: a big topic at the owners meetings, like in the 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: room with owners of just like how much dead money 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: they are paying? And like is that really worth it? 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: Is that really the best way? Is that really the 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: best way to do it? And when you fire a 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: coach and then maybe you fire another coach, there's a 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: lot of dead money. 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: And like if you're you. 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: Know the Raiders, who as of right now, I mean 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: they have Antonio Pierce. Seems like he said to come back. 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: It's what he sounds like. We haven't that confirmed, that's 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: what he sounds like, but you know he's they're still 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: paying Dave Ziggler and Josh McDaniels. You know, if you're 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: the Raiders, then you fire him and then it's like 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: two staffs you're firing plus all the It's like it's 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: a lot of money. And so I think sort of 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: that awakening or whatever for owners to be like how 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: much in dead money are we paying probably affected some things. 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: And then there are always trends, right like this year 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: there were a couple of first time head coaches that 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: really struggled, right Brian Callahan, Drive Mayo. I mean there's 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: always there's always some obviously Jets five Robertshal he was 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: a first time head coach. It feels like the trend 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: is shifting more toward veteran coaches. Like that's a trend 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: and that basically is sort of what tends to happen. 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: But I also feel like. 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: We're shifting toward patients, like the Giants exhibited patients because 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: there's been so much flux over the last couple of years. 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: I think owners are like, let's just try to be 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: patient and maybe that works this time, which I am 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: for patients, I think there should be. 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: More of it, So maybe that's where we're going. 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Just you just want to calm Monday, which I don't 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: blame you. 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: I do want no I do want to come. I do, 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: And I definitely root for my own I definitely root 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: for my own self interests. But I also think that 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: like like I think about this with coaches and quarterbacks, right, Like, 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: you can look across the league at the quarterbacks who 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: we knew for sure sucked, who are now starting for 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: playoff teams, right like, from Sam Darnold to Baker Mayfield. 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean, there's Jordan Love. 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: I think everyone watched his first the COVID start, and 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: we're like, that guy sucks and he's really really good. 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you wait or you surround people with the 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: right things, they become good. And like I think patients 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: sometimes can show that and unveil that, and I wish 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: teams showed more of it. So yeah, I mean, I 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: root for my own self interest to have a calmer Monday, 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: but I also think it's the right way of doing. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go through in one by one. Okay, Jaguars, 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: they fired Doug Peterson this morning. That was not a surprise, right, 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: And it's funny you mentioned about the continuity and not 78 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: wanting to pay all the dead money. I think one 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: quote got the attention of a lot of Jaguars fans. 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Shod Cohn, who is on a press conference on a 81 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: strange looking zoom said, what is a complete overhaul? He asked, 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: because they're asking, why did you not make a complete overhaul? 83 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: They announced they fired Doug Peterson. This will be the 84 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: fifth head coach that con has had, and yet they've 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: only had two gms or executives over all that time. 86 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: And they announced they are keeping Trent Balkis, or that 87 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Trent Balki will be assisting in firing the new head coach. 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: So you can put that together, shod Con says. 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: Quote, what is the hiring? 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: Not? 91 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, sorry about that. I mean though eventually that's 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: what happens to Trent Balki's coaches. Hey, now this is 93 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: what Con said. What is a complete overhaul? You look 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: at it, health and wellness of the player's medical, stats, analysis, scouting, 95 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: number of other elements. Are all those areas we've changed, 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: We've improved. Got eighty five people working on that side, 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: and you're gonna say I'm going to get rid of 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: them and find eighty five new people better than that. 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: That's like s yourself in the foot. And my answer 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: to that was no, you can keep most of those 101 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: people or allow the new personnel guy to kind of 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: form it his way. You don't have to keep every 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to change all those guys 104 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: if you fire Trend Balkis. Were you surprised that Trent 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: Balki ends up staying here? 106 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: Definitely not. I expected this. 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: Now there are things that I expect that don't end 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: up happening, right, Like I was, you and I talked 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: about this offline, but as of three weeks ago, Jrowden 110 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Mayo wasn't going anywhere. 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: Then you know, look there's the on field. It's been 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: a disaster. 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: So the fact that he was fired, I think, you know, 114 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it was warranted, but in the end 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: at least I understand, Like, I get it, the product 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: was not good, so but I expected Trent Balky to 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: be around. It's a good roster. It is one that 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: I think is really talented, and you know, Trent pal 119 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: Key has shown the ability to stick around, to stick 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: around and to maintain you know, his status to be 121 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: in charge and to me like, look, if this coaching 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 3: staff isn't good enough, right, if this coaching staff is 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: one that doesn't take advantage of the talent they have, 124 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: then they should probably move on and keep the people 125 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: who put it really talented group of players. Like this 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: is what Seaon Cohn is essentially forced to make these 127 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: kinds of decisions, say is the right, what's the problem, 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: and get rid of the problem and keep something that helps. Now, 129 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: I think his quote is almost like like he's arguing 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: something that wasn't asked, you know what I mean, like, yes, 131 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: if you completely blow everything up like I guess, you 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: would get rid of like the trainers. That's not what 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: they mean. What they mean is why didn't you fire 134 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: the GM? And what he should have said was I 135 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: don't think the GM was the problem. And you know this, 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: the Trent Balkey situation has garnered a lot of discussion 137 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: around the league, but most people believe the roster is 138 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: good enough that if you take everything you knew about 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: the GM away everything and you would say, should you 140 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: keep the person who built this team? Most people have 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: spoken with today said yes you should. 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Wow, I don't know, I mean off. 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: Again, take everything away? 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Just the gets of lines been a bit of a mess. 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: You know, you got Brian Thomas here, but you sort 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: of like swapped out, you know, one absolutely fantastic draft 147 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: pick for you know what before was kind of a 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: top heavy receiver group. They spent a lot of resources 149 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: on the receiver room. So I hope that it would 150 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: be good. Uh. They've had some injuries there certainly. 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I mean, but but but think okay, I don't know. 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker over Aiden Hutchinson. They become a pretty good 153 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: player though he's okay, like, you got a couple of 154 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: good pass rushers. Sure, but he was there when Dave 155 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Caldwell was there, Balki, and this is it is a 156 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: it's a lesson for people out there. It's a skill 157 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in life to be able to manage up. Your old 158 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: friend Albert Beer from the old Patriots be a friend 159 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: of me. Is that fair to say? No, he's friend friend? 160 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: Okay, he used, I don't like taking I don't like 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: the term managing up, but go ahead. 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: There is a skill, I think to talking to billionaires. 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: And ultimately, Trent Balki has the ownership's ear more than 164 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe the head coach does. And that's the case for 165 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: a lot of general managers and personnel people and or 166 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: executive vice presidents. And he's convinced him that it's a 167 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: great roster. I don't know if I'm if I'm not 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: convinced about that. And our friend John Shipley, who was 169 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: on this podcast before the season, he writes for Sports Illustrated. 170 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: He talked to a coaching candidate who has been tied 171 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: to the Jags who said, you know, as an unnamed source, 172 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: like having Balki there makes them lesson interested in the job. 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: I get it. 174 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: I get it, But here's what I would say. I mean, 175 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: first of all, there's only thirty two of them. So, like, 176 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 3: you know, there was a time when Byron lef Wich 177 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: was a hot head coaching candidate, and I don't know 178 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: if he quote unquote turned down the Jaguars, but definitely 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: made it known that he was not interested in proceeding 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: and going further. 181 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: And I think that proved to be a mistake. 182 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: Like to me, you know, unless you know for sure, 183 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: for sure, for sure that you are getting one, the 184 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 3: thought of not taking one because of the reputation of 185 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: a GM seems insane to me, because you just don't 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: know if you're going to be in that position next year. 187 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: That's just that's just speaking in general. 188 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Life is short though, too. And if you have a 189 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: good situation, and maybe you're not only motivated by by 190 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: the money and the power. 191 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: If you don't like money, I agree you should. 192 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Right now, but not you know, if you're happy where 193 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: you are, that there is a value in that. All right, 194 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: let's go to the Giants. The Giants announce they're keeping 195 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Joshane and Brian Dable. John Mara, the owners, spoke to reporters. 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Let's just listen quickly to tomorrow on my I understand, 197 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: believe me if that's not going to be the most 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: popular decision in Giant Land, but you believe it's the 199 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: right decisions for us going forward. 200 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: How long will it take to improve the product? John? 201 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: Better not take too long, Bruce, because I've just about 202 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: run out of patients. 203 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: Shout out to Bruce Beck. Still getting it done. I 204 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: mean he was getting it done twenty years ago when 205 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I first moved to New York. 206 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: Bruce Bec's sun was my camper when I was a 207 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: camp counselor thirty years ago. 208 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I think this is an example of what 209 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you were talking about about team that had gotten used 210 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: to firing a coach every two years, and they literally 211 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: have done that with McAdoo and Shermer and Joe Judge. 212 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: And I can't say any of those firings were a mistake, 213 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: but I do like that they're not splitting the two up. 214 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: I have my doubts, but Mara credited the rookie class, 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: which was really good. That's absolutely a fair point to make, 216 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: wanting to build on that, and then credited Dable as 217 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: an offensive mine and that he's still the coach that 218 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: was Coach of the Year a couple of years ago. 219 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: So I don't hate it. I just think that expecting 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: this team to be a playoff team next year is difficult. 221 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: So they're going to be two and four or something 222 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: like that. If that happens early next year, and the pressure, 223 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: in the displeasure from the fans is just going to 224 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: be a ment. And yet I don't totally hate it, 225 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: even if I'm not totally confident in the front office, especially. 226 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: Well, here's what I will saying. I hope this is 227 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: the right move. I like a lot of those guys. 228 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: I like Dayball. 229 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: I would say, I would say, yeah, I mean. 230 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: This is h hold on, it's a busy day. 231 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: It's a busy day. So I hope this is the 232 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: right move. 233 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: I would agree if they start out badly next year, 234 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: we're going to be in the same spot. But I 235 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: think one thing that we've learned from a couple of 236 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: different situations Commanders Texans, you get the right quarterback in there, 237 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: things can flip pretty quickly. So if you believe in 238 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: the coach and the GM and I don't believe Joe 239 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Shane was ever in trouble. But let's just talk about 240 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: the coach. If you believe in Brian Daboll and you 241 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: think you can turn this around, then you should do this. 242 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: And again, we're not going to know if this was 243 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: the right decision. It's going to play out. It'll either 244 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: be right or wrong, and it is what it is. 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: But like, this is what owners should do. Stick to 246 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: what you believe in, do all the research, trust the 247 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: people you hired, and keep going forward. Like I would 248 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: agree unless lightning struck like Brian Dabele did not forget 249 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: how to coach like so, I firmly believe he did 250 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: not forget how It's not like he stopped giving efforts, 251 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: he stopped doing so if you believe he is still 252 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: the good coach you hired a couple of years ago, 253 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: you should move forward with him and for them. 254 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: I hope that this is the right decision I feel. 255 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a bad at it, 256 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: but watching Joe Sane on Hard Knocks made me feel like, 257 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, fans think that they could be a GM 258 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of a ridiculous notion, like I 259 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: could do that, I could Watching that so actually made 260 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: me think, actually, I think maybe I could, you know, 261 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I think it could. 262 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: You could not be a GM. No, let's let's I 263 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: get it. So can I just say please? I get 264 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: so annoyed with people. 265 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: Talking about how like you know that that hard knocks 266 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: was negative, Like you know, no team's going to allow 267 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: the hard knocks to be there, like for the Giants. Look, 268 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: they did not make all the right decisions. I still 269 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: agree with the decision to let Saquan go. I mean, 270 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: I do not think he'd be the NFL rushing leader 271 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: if he was on the Giants. And I think that, uh, 272 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, for where they were investing in the offensive 273 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: line with money being finite, was a better choice. 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: I have no idea if I'm right or. 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: Wrong, but they had the opportunity to explain their decisions 276 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: to all of their fans, for better or worse. 277 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: I think that was a good thing anyway, go ahead. 278 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Although they spent you know, the same amount of money 279 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: on like John running in Devin Singletary as Barkley, and 280 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: it's just there's sometimes it's more than you're right, they 281 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: would still be a bad team, and for the sake 282 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: of the NFL, I'm really glad saquin Barkley left. I 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: think the picks I. 284 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: Would wonder, and I would also wonder. Yeah, and I'll 285 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: never know the answer to this if they match the offer, 286 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: does he really stay? I will never I will never 287 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: find out the answer to that. 288 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: My I don't know. I wonder, definitely the wonder. 289 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair and yeah, the trade for Brian Burns, 290 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: he was solid, but they gave up a lot, paid 291 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money, so they'll want him to get better. 292 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Maras specifically mentioned the defense, so we're not sure if 293 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: there might be a change of defensive coordinator with Shane Bowen. 294 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Will find out. You mentioned the Raiders. I do want 295 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: to get to as many teams because I know you 296 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: got to go fairly soon. He so. Anthonio Pierce held 297 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: a press conference on Monday. We've seen this enough that 298 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean he's staying. He had he had 299 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: an interesting press conference. I watched some of it. He 300 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: said he regrets not trusting his gut more often in 301 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: his second year. Said he regrets his quarterback decision. Basically, 302 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: he wishes he started Aidan O'Connell from the beginning. Do 303 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: you think he ultimately will be back because I'm watching 304 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: that and I'm thinking this is weird, and Mark Davis 305 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: is unpredictable, and Tom Brady's in the mix now, and 306 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: it just wouldn't surprise me if next Tuesday or pick 307 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: a random day, Ian Rap reports on NFL network and 308 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: there is a change. It's just up in the air. 309 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: I feel like too, even though he had that press. 310 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: Conference, well like anything else, until you get the official 311 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, word from Mark Davis or the organization or whatever, like, 312 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: it's always up in the air. That's just, you know, 313 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: teams sort of feel compelled now to announce or to 314 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: have you know, Titans had a press conference and basically 315 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: announced a press conference, and that was sort of the signal. 316 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, that was a signal that. 317 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Didnitely make a press release. So did the Dolphins, so 318 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: did the Colts. Actually, you're right, it's kind of a 319 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: new thing, that which is good. 320 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: I wrap it all up in a bow, you know, 321 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing. A couple of things 322 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: about Antonio Piers. You know, the vibe I get and 323 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: I am no expert, but the vibe I get is 324 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: early Dan Campbell, like they were so bad, they were 325 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: one and seven. Like this guy sounds crazy. He's talked. 326 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: I mean the clip that drives Tom Pelisero crazy is 327 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: we talk about biting kneecaps. 328 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: It's like he's so much more than that. 329 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: It's like, yes, but that became a symbol of like 330 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: this guy will do anything. That's the vibe I get 331 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: with Antonio Piers. This team is so bad. They played 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: so hard, They played so many young guys. You know, 333 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell obviously got injured this year and didn't start, 334 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: but by the end was playing absolutely fine quarterback and 335 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: they were in games. They won a couple, and we're 336 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: in games. So like to me, as someone who likes 337 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: people sticking with people, that is enough to where I 338 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: would say I would like to say more. Yeah, I 339 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: would agree with you. We haven't heard the last of 340 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: this because we haven't heard firmly. And finally, they played 341 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: so many young guys and they're so bad that I 342 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 3: think if they just take a little more time, they 343 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: could actually be pretty good. 344 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: And I agree, I think they played hard. It was 345 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: a credit to him all season. It's not a good roster. 346 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: They're kind of the most they might right now along 347 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: with the Titans. But the Titans have the number one 348 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: overall pick. Be kind of the most forgettable team in 349 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: the entire NFL, which is not a place you want 350 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: to be, especially if you're a Raider. The Raiders, I 351 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: just mean, like they're the Raiders, so they matter. But 352 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: just watching the product every week and the players. 353 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: You mean, like who actually they are? 354 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, just there, it's it's kind of a boring team. 355 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: At least the Patriots, you know, they have they have 356 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. You know, there's different franchises have something 357 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: that they don't have much going on there. I don't know, 358 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: we'll see. Maybe he doesn't want to be paying five 359 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: different staffs in Las Vegas either. Miami is one of 360 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: those teams we talked about that did release the statement 361 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Chris Greer is going to be back. Some people were 362 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: locally were hoping maybe they would split, split the coach 363 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: and the GM and maybe Greer, who has been there forever, 364 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: would lose his job, but it's not going to happen. 365 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: On top of that, Tyreek Hill changes his Twitter profile 366 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: on Monday after having some statements about, you know, maybe 367 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: exploring his options this offseason. After the game. We talked 368 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: about that a little on Sunday, Nights Show. But then 369 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: on Monday, he made his Twitter profile his face poorly 370 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: photoshopped onto Antonio Brown's body when Antonio Brown ran off 371 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: the field in Tampa and was like, I'm out. I 372 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know, give me what you got on the Dolphins 373 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: because I agree, patients kind of makes sense. Although Chris 374 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Greer has been there forever and it's going to be 375 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: a big year for him and Mike mcdanner, and kind 376 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: of where do you think the Tyreek Hill will go? 377 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Well? 378 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: First of all, so you know, you say like it's 379 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: gonna be a big year, like I guess, but this 380 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: is sort of for better or worse. What it's always like, 381 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: like they've been close at times, they have not gotten there. 382 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: They have not won a playoff game in how long. 383 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: They were in it? What seven years ago, five years ago, 384 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. It's been over twenty years something, insane. 385 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: That's a long time. 386 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: And so like their team is okay, and they were 387 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: close and they did not make the playoffs, and it's 388 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: like here's the problem. Like I again, I don't know 389 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: what the right move and what the wrong move is. 390 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: It's so impossible to tell, which is why talk about 391 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: like could you be a GM? Of course no, but 392 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: I think about sometimes could I be an owner? I'm 393 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: not rich enough, but could I be an owner? Because 394 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 3: these are such unbelievably high stakes decisions and everyone comes 395 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: after you if you're wrong, and. 396 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: There's no way to know. 397 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: Like Chris Carew has done good enough to have his 398 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 3: team right at the brink of the playoffs, but they 399 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: have not won a playoff game in forever. So it's like, 400 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: at what point do you say, Art, we're just starting new, 401 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: Like that's that's the problem right now. As far as 402 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: the Tyreek Khill situation, here's what I would say. It's 403 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: impossible to know what a player thinks right after the season. 404 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: You missed the playoffs. Everyone's annoyed, everyone's frustrated, everyone's tired. 405 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't take anything that anyone says for sure, for sure, 406 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: for sure, right after the season. But you know, Tyreek 407 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: Kill making thirty million dollars a year coming off not 408 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: his best year with a wrist injury at thirty something 409 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: years old, Like, would somebody trade. 410 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: For him and pay him that money? 411 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: I have? 412 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: I for sure have some questions there. 413 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they would give up much. But 414 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: even before this happened, I think it was a natural 415 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: time to wonder if there was going to be a divorce. 416 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: That it was a lot of ups and downs this 417 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: year and he didn't play well, so I kind of 418 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: expected him to I think if they would just take 419 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: anything just to the salary, dump him potentially if another 420 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: team was into him, although he just signed a new contract. 421 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: Signed a new contract, right, so it. 422 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: Makes it that makes it a little more complicated. Before 423 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, we had a bunch of coordinators that did 424 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: lose their jobs. But I did want to get your opinion. 425 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: And we haven't talked about this offline or anything, so 426 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what you think about it. 427 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 428 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell answered a question about the potential that other 429 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: teams would be interested in Kevin O'Connell, who only has 430 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: one year left on his contract after this year. Let's 431 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: just listen to Kevin O'Connell. This is quick. 432 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not really interested in kind of I guess 433 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: I should say. Addressing the rumors or speculation. What I 434 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: can't tell you is I love this team. I love 435 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: everything about this organization, and this is where I want 436 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: to be. This is this is where I want to 437 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: keep coaching and leading. 438 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Not a surprise. How how he answered that, What do 439 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: you make of all this O'Connell stuff. 440 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how much O'Connell stuff there is. 441 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 3: I mean, if you told me that, and I don't, 442 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to make could seem like I'm talking 443 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: about someone else's report, because I don't like to do that, 444 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: you know, because like there's plenty of my reports that 445 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: someone could say stuff about. It's like, you know, would 446 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: some team like to trade for the probable coach of 447 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: the year? Like, yeah, I would think if a lot 448 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: of teams had the choice, they would like to have 449 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: the guy who's the coach of the year. I would 450 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: imagine he's a very good coach. If you say to me, 451 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: would teams like to have this really good coach? I 452 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: would say they probably would. We talk about coach trades 453 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: every year. The Mike Tomlin rumors come up every single year. 454 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: The only coach trades we've had in the last like 455 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: two decades were a retired Bruce arians and a retired 456 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: Sean not a retired but a sabbatical Sean Payton. Right, 457 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 3: unless I'm missing one, I don't know that anything involving 458 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: a coach trade with a coach who's actually good is 459 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: actual reality. 460 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: I do not believe that is reality. 461 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: And if you're the Vikings, why would you even consider 462 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: anything that involves giving up on the coach of the 463 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: year who has built everything. 464 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: It's just none of this seems real to me. 465 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I agree, and I'm only speaking for myself, But just 466 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the fact that it went out there on broadcasts and 467 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Jay Glazer was the one who reported, and I'm speaking 468 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: for myself here, not just the fact that it was 469 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: out there, and don't I don't know how how it 470 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: got out there or why it got out there, but 471 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: generally I would guess that Kevin O'Connell hads like it 472 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't totally catch him by surprise that he got out there. 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: Just the fact that it was put out there is 474 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: interesting to me. Now, whether that's leverage for money, whether 475 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: that's leverage for power, I don't know. I don't know 476 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: what it would be, but it's an interesting timing for 477 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: it to happen right before the playoffs. All right, let's 478 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: take a quick pause here. We'll be back on the 479 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: other side with Ian talk more about the coaching careself. 480 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: I know you've got to go. So I do want 481 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: to get you on a couple of things in terms 482 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: of the interviews that have been announced. Let's go through 483 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: a couple of them. Pats request Ben Johnson, that's all 484 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: we've heard about, and he's going to do the interview. 485 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: He's gonna interview with the Bears, and it's early. They 486 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: can only do it remotely. Do you think which do 487 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: you think of those two is more realistic? 488 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, the Bears of the Patriots? 489 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 490 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I would say if I were. 491 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and you said to me, could you have 492 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: the number one quarterback or the number three overall quarterback? 493 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: Like clear of what he wants? 494 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 4: You know? 495 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I would like, there's Patriots are for sure 496 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: not perfect now and the Bears are for sure not perfect, 497 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: but they got both of them have quarterbacks that I 498 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: think he could work with. So I would say that 499 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: focus for Ben Johnson seems pretty clear to me. 500 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are Well would you ask which is 501 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: more likely? 502 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Is? 503 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: Would you yeah? 504 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: Which is more likely? Realistic? 505 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I think like a lot of people that 506 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel is for sure the front runner in New England, 507 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 3: So to me, the Bears is probably more realistic for 508 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: Ben Jonson. 509 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, and yeah, they asked Robert Craft on Monday specifically 510 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: about Mike Rabel, and he didn't really answer the question, 511 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: which is fine. It's at this point in the process. 512 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: The Bears also have Aaron Glenn, Anthony Weaver, Drew Petzig, 513 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: and Mike Kafka on their interview list. I'm just going 514 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: to read off the interview lists that's been reported for 515 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: the Jets. This is a wild group. Josh McCown, Brian Flores. 516 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: Nice to see he's not getting blackballed considering the lawsuit 517 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: with the league and all that stuff. Joe Brady, Aaron Glenn, 518 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Matt Naggi, Ron Rivera, who's already interviewed, Rex Ryan, who's 519 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: going to Bobby Slowick, the Texans coordinator. Who are we 520 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: sure that he's going to keep his job? Arthur Smith? 521 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: And Mike Rabel. That is a long list between those 522 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: two teams. And there's been a couple of Saints ones 523 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: that have popped up to I guess I would just ask, like, 524 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: which names catch your eye? What do you think is 525 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: an interesting match? Is there any like semi leaders in 526 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: the clubhouse that maybe have a better chance than other 527 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: guys that have been mentioned. 528 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: So I'd say for the Jets, I would not be 529 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: surprised if they hired a coach who had previously already 530 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: been a head coach. So I look at someone like 531 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: Arthur Smith would be a good example. Did not treat 532 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 3: the quarterback position properly in Atlanta led to really what 533 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: they're in now. I mean thought he was gonna make 534 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 3: it happen with Desma Ritter while building a strong team 535 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: around him. It did not happen. They were close, but 536 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: it did not happen. He is really smart, he is 537 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: very good at offense, He can lead, and he's been 538 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: there before, so he you know, knows from learns from 539 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: his mistakes, and he's been around Tomlin for a year. 540 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: Like that's the kind of hire to me that for 541 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: the Jets, which is a really really challenging job, Like, 542 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: that's the kind of hire to me that would make 543 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: some sense. So I like, I don't know what Chuck 544 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna do, but if you told me they hired 545 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: a veteran head coach or a former head coach, I 546 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: would say that probably makes some sense to me. 547 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: How about the report and Jane Slater has it an 548 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: NFL Network that the Bears have requested to talk to 549 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. 550 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense. 551 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: I would expect McCarthy to get a couple of requests. 552 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: I mean why, like when a Super Bowl took a 553 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: team to the playoffs many years in a row, Like 554 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: I think Cowboys gonna let it happen. 555 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I have certainly have some questions. 556 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: What do you think where do you think that goes? 557 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Because the Cowboys just open ended, like his contract is over. 558 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna have to figure that out first. Jerry 559 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: Jones didn't sound on Sunday night like he was in 560 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: a particular hurry, but. 561 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: They're not, like the Bears is going to be in 562 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: a hurry. 563 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Well, but the then he has to he has to 564 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: answer this request essentially that he has to let Mike 565 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: McCarthy not until interview or not? 566 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't he eight days from now? 567 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: Okay? 568 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: Like Jerry, Like, I do not think anyone will bully 569 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones into accepting an interview request. So I no, 570 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: I do not get the sense that they're in any 571 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: hurry at all. 572 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, they have eight days. 573 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: So it's interesting you say the former coach thing in 574 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: New York because of all those former coaches, Rabel. Rabel 575 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: makes some sense to me with the Jets. If he 576 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: wanted that job. We'll see Arthur Smith. I'm not I'm 577 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: not to convince he brings much of a schematic advantage. 578 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, don't think about it. 579 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: Schematic advantage. I'm sorry, right, okay. 580 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: Matt Naggi was another one there of all those guys 581 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: that see. 582 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: Naggy is interesting to me too though, because like, look, Mitch, 583 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: they made the playoffs right two years? 584 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: I think, right? Two out of four? Is that right? 585 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Did they think they? Yeah? Because he got the m 586 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: v P one year and the other one they had 587 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: the double doink. I don't know if you remember that 588 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon MVP that Trubisky won, but it. 589 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: Was obviously classical. But so Managgi a really good example. 590 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: Mitch Trubisky is, I think, at very most a backup. 591 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 3: Naggie had us thinking he could be a starter or 592 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: like a really viable starter in the NFL. Right did 593 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: not end well, and I think by the end Naggie 594 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: certainly lost himself play calling wise and leadership wise, Like did. 595 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: Not end well. 596 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: Right for any of them, I would be really curious 597 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: to see what happened now that he's been back with 598 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: any read what happens when he gets a second chance, 599 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: Like I that to me is interesting, right. 600 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, of all those guys, hell, 601 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: I almost would want to see McCarthy there with the Jets. 602 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think I have. 603 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Not heard McCarthy with the Jets. 604 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, that's true. Yeah, that has not been 605 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: reported at all. I'll let you go. Ian. I know 606 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: you got seventeen more hours of television to do. 607 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: I have twenty six text messages that I missed. 608 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's I mean, you wouldn't put it way, 609 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go ahead and say, that's love. You know, 610 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: that's how you show love. 611 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: Some ignoring text message as they say. 612 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Did you happen to see while we were talking Jerry Jones. 613 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones on that Billy Bob Thornton show clip that 614 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: has been going around. Treat yourself, just do it, Jerry Jones. 615 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Possibly know what you mean by that? 616 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Go to Mina Kimes's Twitter page and she she retweeted it. Today, 617 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: he is on the New Billy Bob Thornton Show with 618 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: John Ham, where he plays an oil man and he's 619 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: got like a two minute scene with Billy Bob Thornton 620 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and John Ham and Jerry Jones axes ass off and 621 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: you might even be moved. And I just finished people. 622 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: Just finish, and I'm going through it right now. 623 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: It's the same. It's the same. The same creator created 624 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: this show. 625 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: Is it actually? 626 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. There you go, Ian Rappaport, he 627 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: does it all. 628 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ian, thanks man. All right. 629 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: That was Ian Rappaport. I wanted to talk to him 630 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: on this day, get as much as I could with him, 631 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: but there was more that we didn't get to. And 632 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run through it and then we'll send 633 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: you on your way. Nice tight show today, and then 634 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: we'll get everyone in the studio for QB Island season 635 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: finale on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to that, all right. 636 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: The coordinators were not safe, even if the head coaches were. 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: On Monday, the Bengals file fired lou and Aroumo, which 638 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense based on how their defense 639 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: played for most of the season. I thought the way 640 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: they finished the year could potentially save him, but he 641 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: struggled to develop younger players over the last few years, 642 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes even good coaches their run runs out in 643 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: a certain locale. He will be a highly coveted coordinator 644 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: in this hiring cycle, and the Bengals under Zach Taylor, 645 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: we'll look for someone new. Bit of a surprise for 646 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: me was that the Seahawks fired offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb. 647 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald was speaking on a radio hit this morning 648 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: and said that his offensive vision was just different than 649 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: what he was seeing out of Ryan Grubb. And if 650 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: you go back and you look at what they were 651 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: saying before the season, what Dk metcalf was saying before 652 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: the season, that they wanted to be a run first 653 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: type of team that set up the passing game, and 654 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: you think about the vision that Mike McDonald want as 655 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: a defensive coach, I think it's their inability to really 656 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: get that offensive line to be able to block for 657 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: the run to run consistently at all was the difference there. 658 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: So they will have a new coordinator there. Gino Smith 659 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: has had a new coordinator every year for a while now, 660 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald was just a tad non comental when 661 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: asked about Gino Smith on that radio broadcast, which is 662 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: a change he's been so in Gino's camp. That might 663 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: have something to do with the contract of Gina, which 664 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: is a little up in the air right now. He 665 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: has one year left on it, but they could lower 666 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: his cap number by extendium, so he might not have 667 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: wanted to say anything that got him in trouble with 668 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: that contract. But I have a feeling Gino Smith will 669 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: be back. We'll find out who they hired. The Browns 670 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: fired their offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey along with their offensive 671 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: line coach Andy Dickerson. Not a surprise there that Dorsey, 672 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: to me, was brought in to almost run a Deshaun 673 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: Watson style of offense. It didn't work. Some of the 674 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: Browns players, including their offensive lineman Jack Conklin, even said 675 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: after their final game of the season that essentially, we 676 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: can't build an offense out of one person's talents. We 677 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: got to do what we do well, and that essentially 678 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: is saying we should have the play action under center 679 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: type of offense that Kevin Stevanski has been great with 680 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: and not try to make everything work for Deshaun Watson, 681 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: who probably will never play another snap again. These are 682 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: my words, not Jack Conklin's words. There was a report 683 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: or it came from the GM of the Browns that 684 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: there was a complication in Deshaun Watson's recovery from a 685 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: torn achilles when he came in for a physical. That 686 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: raised my eyebrows a little bit. There there's been some 687 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: news that Deshaun Watson had his contract reworked and that 688 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: means they'll have a spot for him next season. I 689 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: don't believe any of that. I think this is all theater. 690 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Deshaun Watson will ever play for the 691 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: Browns again. I personally don't think he'll even have a 692 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: chance to compete again, and this injury almost gives them 693 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: cover that we just won't see him for twenty twenty five, 694 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: and they'll work out some way to either cut him 695 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six or just get rid of him. 696 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: And I have my doubts whether he'll play football again. 697 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: We will see. So I just went through all the 698 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: coordinator firings, we talked about all the interviews. I didn't 699 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: mention the Jets GM situation and which also has a 700 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: diverse group of options. We had mentioned in the best 701 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: Jim Naggy, the Senior Bowl Guy, got an interview there. 702 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: John Robinson, the former Titans gm who used to work 703 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: with Mike Frable interviewed. Lewis Riddick, who works for ESPN interview. 704 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Thomas de Mittroff, who now is working for Summer Sports, 705 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: got an interview. He used to be with the Falcons. 706 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson, the guy who built the offensive line that 707 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: helped Andrew Luck to retire, got an interview. Alec Hallaby, 708 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: the assistant general manager of the Philadelphia Eagles forward thinking organization, 709 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: was on Jordan rod Riegs the Playmakers podcast. You guys 710 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: should check that out. That would be a good hire. 711 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: Mike Greenberg, not the get Up host, but works for 712 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks was another one. And yeah, one name I 713 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: didn't mention just because the Jets coaching interview list is 714 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: so wild was Brian Greese, the former Monday Night football 715 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: commentator who's been a quarterbacks coach for the forty nine ers. 716 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: I really get the sense that the Jets are just 717 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: interviewing guys to like get information out of them. So 718 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna be tracking all these interviews. We'll see what 719 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: happens throughout the course of this week. Some other minor 720 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: news are not surprising. Was out of Carolina, where Bryce 721 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: Young was confirmed from Dave Canalis, it was good to 722 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: hear him. Let's actually listen to Dave Canals. 723 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 5: Well, i'd say we'll take a week to week. We 724 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 5: got no more weeks, you know. So yeah, Bryce is 725 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 5: our quarterback. 726 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: You know. 727 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: I'm so proud of the way that he just took 728 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 5: the challenge and he just grew every week. He just 729 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: took new lessons, new things, applied it to his game. 730 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: So that that is Dave cadallis confirming without a shadow 731 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: of doubt that Bryce Young is their guy. He's their 732 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And the other news there was that Giro Evro, 733 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: who would have been a popular defensive coordinator option in 734 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: this cycle despite a bad Panthers defense this year, they 735 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: just don't have any players. He will be staying in Carolina, 736 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: and Dave Canalis, who got to work with Evro as 737 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: part of an arranged marriage, says he really likes ever 738 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: Roe and wants to keep him in the building. So 739 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: that's all the hiring, that's all the firing. Unfortunately, we 740 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: got some bad injury news for the Packers that Christian 741 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: Watson will miss the playoffs. It's expected that he'll have 742 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: surgery for a torn acl so that's really disappointing and 743 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: changes how that offense looks. But we'll be talking about 744 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: all the playoff games in our preview show later of 745 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: the week. As I mentioned on Tuesday, we're gonna tape it, 746 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: trying to decide whether we put it out Tuesday afternoon 747 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: or maybe overnight as we switch to the offseason. Get 748 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: into that cycle. Let me know which you guys like. 749 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: But either way, we got Weiss hopefully back in the building. 750 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: We got Connie Wolf back in the building. We have 751 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic Let's play the music. Eric 752 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: I got a prep for some QB Island. It's gonna 753 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: be tough to choose. Yeah, thank you to Ian Rappaport 754 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: once again, looking forward to getting back in this studio. 755 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: Look when when Matt Naggy is interviewing for head coaching 756 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: jobs and Trent Balkey is getting his coaches fired, you 757 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: know football is back.