WEBVTT - WWE Superstar Talks Mental Health

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, we want to talk about the global

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<v Speaker 2>wellness economy, which is something that is no longer a

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<v Speaker 2>niche market. You know that. It's something we like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a lot here at Bloomberg in our especially

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<v Speaker 2>from our Pursuits team.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a six.

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<v Speaker 2>Point eight trillion dollar powerhouse projected to hit nearly ten

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<v Speaker 2>trillion dollars by the end of this decade. That's according

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<v Speaker 2>to the latest note from the Global Wellness Institute. At

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<v Speaker 2>the intersection of all that's happening when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the wellness market surge and women's sports is our next guest.

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<v Speaker 2>For over a decade, Ashley Flair, known to the global

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<v Speaker 2>audience as Charlotte Flair, has been a top tier superstar

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<v Speaker 2>for WWE, winning numerous championships, including the WWE Women's Championship

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<v Speaker 2>a record fourteen times, unbelievable. Today, she is leveraging her

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<v Speaker 2>brand equity as an angel investor, specifically in the mental

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<v Speaker 2>health and a parel space with the brand of self

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<v Speaker 2>care is for Everyone, and we are delighted to have

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley Flair. I thought. She joins us from Orlando, Florida, Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have you here with us. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations and all your accomplishments. That's really really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this might be my biggest one yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well tell it goes the way I hope we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about. Well, let's go there, because you've accomplished

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<v Speaker 2>so much at the WWE, tell us about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your hopes, your dreams, your expectations, and where you are

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<v Speaker 2>in that process.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I still have hopes and dreams within the

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<v Speaker 1>WWE and Charlotte Flair and my passion for wrestling means

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<v Speaker 1>the world to me. And I still, you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>many years left on my career. But when I was

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<v Speaker 1>injured last year, you know, there is a shelf life

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<v Speaker 1>for women in sports, and I really didn't know or

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<v Speaker 1>I or what do I want to do next? And

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<v Speaker 1>I have really gravitated towards the self care mental health

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<v Speaker 1>space and that's really helped me. I feel get through

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years in my career and feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't talk about anxiety and the pressure of

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<v Speaker 1>being perfect on screen because the character that I play,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Flair.

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<v Speaker 3>Is so perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And this past year, I feel as since I've gravitated

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<v Speaker 1>towards the mental health care and talking about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>helped grow my brand. I've been able to connect with

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<v Speaker 1>fans and realizing it's okay not to be okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>when this opportunity from self Care, the two owners, Aj

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<v Speaker 1>and Sasha came to me with this opportunity and asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to be an angel investor, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a perfect fit and where

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<v Speaker 1>to put my money or my investment in my time

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<v Speaker 1>into them to help make this a safe space for athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>for public figures, for parents, for anyone, because it has

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<v Speaker 1>been taboo for so long, and whether it be the

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<v Speaker 1>affirming apparel or the easily accessible mental health tools that

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<v Speaker 1>self cares for everyone that we're trying to grow in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, I'm just honored to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I really admire the week was long winded.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, only adding color important for us. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 4>how many of your physical injuries were a mental health

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<v Speaker 4>journey and did it at all change your perspective on

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<v Speaker 4>what strength really is.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think when I hurt my knee, that's I

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<v Speaker 1>tore my ACL I don't think I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>right I was in the right state of mind, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was imposter syndrome, that dialogue, that how we

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<v Speaker 1>talk to ourselves, that in our self talk. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I was in a very negative space and not

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<v Speaker 1>opening up about it and the anxiety of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being a woman that's approaching forty what that looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>the demands and it's you know, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say I'm a woman, and what I want

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<v Speaker 1>more of is time and all that pressure adding up.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the reason I hurt my knee is

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<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't all there performing and for someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has I always looked at myself as the Iron Woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and when my knee took me out, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all I know, all I all I viewed myself was

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<v Speaker 1>as a professional wrestler, Like that's all I am, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not all I am. And I do have a voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe this is the start of something bigger for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love being Charlotte, but taking Charlotte to the

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<v Speaker 1>next level and making these conversations more accessible or not

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<v Speaker 1>taboo for people in any kind of industry I think

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<v Speaker 1>is so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's something too in the timing actlet like,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like increasingly athletes are coming out, men and

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<v Speaker 2>women and just talking about, you know, the stresses, the difficulties,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being you know, at a high point and

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<v Speaker 2>then having an injury and then it's just so tough

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<v Speaker 2>to come back. We see it over and over. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mental wellness component the stress on athletes

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<v Speaker 2>of all kinds to perform increasingly, it's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough, whether it be athletes, whether it be a stay up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a single mom work. I mean, there's it

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<v Speaker 1>crosses over to everyone. And with the apparel that we've created,

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<v Speaker 1>walking down the street and you see a sweatshirt that

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<v Speaker 1>says you are enough, it's that simple and it opens

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<v Speaker 1>a dialogue. And I hope investing in self care is

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone with that mission to just make those topics

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<v Speaker 1>easy every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you too, though we love talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the wellness market and all its different shapes and sizes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will the wellness market, nearing a seven trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar valuation, talked to us about the due diligence that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys did that led to the creation of self

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<v Speaker 2>care is for everyone, you know, and tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>how you were thinking about it. It's a competitive space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely competitive, but so for me, self care is

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Was founded in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I had already been following this site before I even

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<v Speaker 1>know who the owners were.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like little messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you are enough, you have a voice, my

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<v Speaker 1>own messaging that I put on my social media, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be Twitter, Instagram or TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>I always say, ps I hope you feel beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, because, like you know, on those days as women

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't feel so beautiful, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>show up, you have to put on that smiling face.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me being on TV, it's like, ps I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you feel beautiful today as a thirty nine year

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<v Speaker 1>old woman competing in an industry where like they do ads,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's just television is hard for women.

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<v Speaker 3>So this company was founded in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>When Aj and Sasha came to me this year, my

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<v Speaker 1>financial person did their due diligence seeing you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>they have grown, what this space looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>will what the investment into them looks like. And for

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<v Speaker 1>me wanting to have a diversified portfolio, what it where

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<v Speaker 1>is the best place to put my money to help

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<v Speaker 1>them grow. And that's how I that's how much I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in what they've already, what they've already done, and

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<v Speaker 1>what they brought to me. Plus they have a six

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<v Speaker 1>month campaign with Target already with Kleenex, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>everyday product which you see are messaging on. So from

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<v Speaker 1>a business standpoint, I am just the investor. Exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they have raised, I could not tell you the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do know for suicide prevention and a peril

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<v Speaker 1>it was to me, I was blown away what they've

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<v Speaker 1>just been able to do with just the online presence,

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<v Speaker 1>with the two of them, with no other big names attached,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean personalities via social promoting them. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I come in, bringing my audience. So you're my investment.

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<v Speaker 2>So ashlely, your branding goes on different products, right, is

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<v Speaker 2>that how it works?

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<v Speaker 3>Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, So for this company for self care is everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>They already started to put their messaging on on everyday

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<v Speaker 1>products such as Kleenex. We just did a they did

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<v Speaker 1>a six month deal in Target.

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<v Speaker 4>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So them bringing what they've already been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the help of my branding and push and being

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<v Speaker 1>their first angel investor got it hoping to grow there.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe in what they've already done, and they

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<v Speaker 1>believe in me and what I have aligned with my

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<v Speaker 1>with my branding.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they brought me on board.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been able to see their numbers and what

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<v Speaker 1>they're capable of from a business standpoint. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this was the right investment due to wanting

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<v Speaker 1>just to help something like how can you go wrong? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that to me was like whether I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the ultimate goal is to make money and

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<v Speaker 1>it is a business, but like to me, when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do with not like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what my next step is after WWE. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I do know is I want to help people. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I invested in them, because I know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong and helping create a safe space for people.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to become the person that I needed growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt like investing in self care for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like the perfect step in that and being their

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<v Speaker 1>angel investor.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to go back to that.

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<v Speaker 4>If you could go back to Ashley at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of your career, before the global fame, what's one self

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<v Speaker 4>care mantra that you would whisper to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Just believe in yourself, be your own hero. Well like

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling wasn't always It was never in my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to do list or dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I played volleyball in college and I graduated, I was lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I became a personal trainer. I always was drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>public relations. I did like PR. But then my little brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a really bad drug addiction, always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>follow in my father's footsteps. So I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if I tried wrestling, because I was given the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity by Triple H or head of Creative Now in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve, that I could get him on the right path.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I started, I really didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what I was getting into because I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked wrestling, but back then, you know, women were

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<v Speaker 1>secondary storylines.

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<v Speaker 3>They were eye candy.

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<v Speaker 1>I never viewed myself as a professional wrestler, supermodel, anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so when I started, it was just more

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<v Speaker 1>me needing to save myself from a prior situation. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny I spent my whole life trying to save

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<v Speaker 1>my little brother, who ended up dying a couple months

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<v Speaker 1>after I started when ultimately he saved me and gave

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<v Speaker 1>me this dream. And I feel I have helped change

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape for women in a male dominated industry and wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I can take something from nothing and turn

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<v Speaker 1>what I did, the character Charlotte into today is the

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<v Speaker 1>most decorated woman of all time. What can I do

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<v Speaker 1>in the mental health the mental health space with the

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<v Speaker 1>work ethic and the passion that I had for wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>and bring that same passion to helping people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>create that space with the determination I had in wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I wish like for my brother who passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he had a drug addiction, but I really feel

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand, like from you know, the early two

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<v Speaker 1>thousands to twenty twelve, I don't think I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Taboo for men to say they had anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Or what they were dealing with their pressures and not

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<v Speaker 1>saying my brother would have been, you know, still with us,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least like it's okay for men to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm burnt out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like, you know, it's and first of

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<v Speaker 2>all and most mostly actually so sorry for your loss

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, things that life throws at us

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<v Speaker 2>and how we figure out a way forward, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's really heartening to hear you talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wanting to help others, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think COVID though, was something that opened up where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was feeling stressed, right, It was something that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about mental health and mental wellness, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a really really big change in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation more broadly. So I can totally get why

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<v Speaker 2>you're also drawn to it. I'm also you know you

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<v Speaker 2>said about men versus women. What was the most difficult

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of that difference for you in WWE or did

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<v Speaker 2>you not feel it?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's not that you, it's I have so I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the women who came before me that helped

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<v Speaker 1>change the landscape that have been grinding for the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty years before me, they probably felt it more.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I started in the group of women that

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<v Speaker 1>I came in with who I champion every day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not all as close as you know, success and

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<v Speaker 1>competitiveness and competition takeover and always wanting to be at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of your business.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were part of this change.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Stephanie McMahon debuted us and then there was

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<v Speaker 1>one other girl who debuted a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Later, the four Horse Women. That's what we were coined.

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<v Speaker 1>As in twenty fifteen when Give Divas a Chance trended

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<v Speaker 1>for three days. We were part of that rise where

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<v Speaker 1>we were given the same amount of opportunities and time

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<v Speaker 1>and segments as the men, and then ultimately myself, Becky

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch Ronda Rowsey ended up main eventing WrestleMania thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>and Met Life. And if you had asked someone even

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a year prior to that with the women ever

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<v Speaker 1>made event a show, they would have like laughed. But

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<v Speaker 1>what we were able to create is that women are

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<v Speaker 1>capable of selling merchandise, putting people in seats, being top

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<v Speaker 1>of a card, getting equal opportunities in the ring. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just from the day I started, I had one

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<v Speaker 1>goal to where I am now. So do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>things go like this? One hundred percent? Do I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm as big a star as an email? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>I almost cussed, but I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're glad you didn't, but it's a great way to

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<v Speaker 2>end and you're absolutely right because we're seeing this massive

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<v Speaker 2>surge and valuations for women's sports, whether it's WNBA and WSL.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's just so much and women's have.

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<v Speaker 3>To give them the opportunity in the backing and the advertising. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Perception is reality and if you do that then the

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<v Speaker 1>audience follows.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, this was a joy. I'm spending some time

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<v Speaker 2>with you, and good luck and stay in touch and

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<v Speaker 2>let us know how things are going. Ashley, you you bet,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Ashley Flair, of course, also known as Charlotte Flair,

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<v Speaker 2>the WWE superstar, joining us on this Monday and of

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<v Speaker 2>course talking about her brand self care is for everyone