WEBVTT - Selects: Cockney Rhyming Slang: Beautiful Gibberish 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:02.960 Hey, everybody, it's your old pal Josh. And for this 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:07.039 week's select, I've chosen our episode from November of twenty 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.520 nineteen on Cockney rhyming slang. This is one of those 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.800 silly episodes that's also packed with a lot of interesting information. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.720 And I remember Chuck and I having fun making yet 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.280 so I hope you'll enjoy listening to it too. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:33.840 Enjoy Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.440 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.519 there's Charles w Chuck Bryant right there. There's Jerry Rowland 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.760 right there. So that makes this stuff you should know 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:51.640 right in. That's it for me. Can't top that. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.800 I was trying to think a way to say welcome 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.560 to the podcast and cockney rhyming slang. Can you make 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.280 an intense My brain is are broken right now. I 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:02.200 can't even try. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.080 Okay, good, good, well, welcome. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.760 It's a good good time to record a show, right exactly. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.039 You're gonna do some cocknye in here, right. We want 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.080 to offend as many Londoners as we can. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.520 I don't know, just just channel a little Dick Van Dyke. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.279 Oh you know, Yeah, the American. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.400 Doing a bad Cockney accent. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:27.600 Well, I did recently rewatch The Limey. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.040 Yes, for Casey's Benefits. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.360 Yeah, the great, great movie from Steven Soderberg. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.679 Never seen it. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.040 It's awesome, is it really? Yeah? 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.959 I mean I know it's like a classic and everybody 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.560 loves it, but I mean it's really that good? Huh Yeah, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.480 because a lot of people liked I don't know, The Hangover. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:43.760 I like the Hangover? 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.680 Well, how would you? How would you like The Linemy 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:46.959 and the Hangover? Same level? 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.320 Yeah, they're the same movie almost all right, it's weird. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.160 Well, then I've seen The Hangover, so I don't need 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:52.880 to see the Limy. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:58.000 No, the Lemmy's great and Terrence Stamp is awesome, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.480 it and uses some Cockney rhymings in one great scene. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.040 My big exposure to Cockney rhyming slang is Lockstock in 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.920 Two Smoking Barrels Snatch, Yeah, which I think are both 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.239 directed by Guy Ritchie. Right, wasn't Lockstock like his first 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.760 attempt in Snatch was the one that like got him 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.720 married to Madonna? 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:17.919 You a fan of Hits? 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.040 Yeah? I mean as much as I like his movies, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.200 I don't like him personally necessarily because he like hunts, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.200 bore like a jackass. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:27.359 And stuff like that. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.520 Yeah, like drunk with his friends in the most like 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.440 disrespectful way of murdering a pig. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.760 I've meant his movies, but yeah, I do like his 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.119 movie sounds like he's a creep too. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.960 I'm not going to go on record saying that, but 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.360 you know. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.120 Uh, yeah, those movies are okay. And then I guess, uh, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.040 what's his name? Don Cheatle a little bit in Ocean's eleven. Sure, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.600 he did a little bit of. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:54.519 That, right, And I mean like it's code to Americans, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.760 it's oh, there's like a criminal, a British criminal, right, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.600 that's all that means these days? 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.440 Yeah, I think so. In movies, it's definitely like all 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.280 of those are criminal, criminal people in the movie. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.560 But they're like, you know, kind of slick, cool criminals 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.600 that like boil leather coats and stuff like that, not 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.640 dumb criminals that were like football jerseys or anything like that. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.280 They're like, you know, smooth criminals. That's I think what 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.839 I was looking for. Yeah, but this idea of associating 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.560 it with Cockney is not necessarily associating it with criminals. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:31.600 It's more associated with like lower class, working class, less educated, definitely, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.160 not the aristocracy over in Britain. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.160 Yeah, or the upper class. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.080 Sure, And that by speaking with a Cockney accent, or 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.839 more to the point, using Cockney rhyming slang, you could 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.800 really differentiate yourself to it as a point of pride, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.840 like you were speaking like your group. You're in group, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.200 which was at the time Cockney. But the big surprise 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.480 to all this is it's really possible and even probable 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.440 that it wasn't the Cockney that came up with this 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.520 rhyming slang, that it was somebody else altogether. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.640 Maybe who knows? Should we say what it is? 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.480 No, not for the rest of the podcast. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:14.960 Cockney rhyming slang. It wasn't even very clearly defined in 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:19.800 this piece. Okay, did do you think it was? It's 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.479 in there, Okay. You got to just kind of separate 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.600 the wheat from the chaff. So it is a two 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:30.240 word phrase. It is a slang phrase consisting of two 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.880 words or the last word of that phrase rhymes with 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.400 the original word. And it can be and I think 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.039 the best way to do this is just to throw 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.400 out a few no, no, keep describing well, the two 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.360 word phrase. It can be. It can be a lot 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.080 of things. It can be a person's name, it can 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.240 be just something random. It can be a place, could 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.040 be a place, It could be a lot of things. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.640 It can be anything. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.920 Yeah, sure, I guess it can be m But shall 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.880 we illustrate it through. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.760 Well, there's a second part to it too, Ok, the 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.080 second part, and this is very important. The two word 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.160 phrase that you're using to that where the second word 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.159 rhymes with the word you're actually saying. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.359 Yeah, the original word, the original word thank. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:17.160 You, usually has nothing to do with it. There's no metaphor, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.240 there's no connection, there's no nothing, there's no there's no 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.440 context to it. It's supposed to just be random or 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.360 in most cases it is just random words, right, one 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.400 of which rhymes with the word you're replacing. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.600 And to further complicate things, Sure, in a lot of cases, 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.640 and no one knows why. Sometimes this happens, and sometimes 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.159 it doesn't a lot of times that one of the 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.000 words of the two word phrase is dropped yep, and 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.520 then you're just left with the one word which doesn't 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.800 even rhyme with the original word anymore. Right. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.599 That's I mean, that's probably the best description of cockney 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.240 rhyming slaying anyone's ever given. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.320 So I think we should illustrate it with a couple 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.320 of examples. I pulled some from from some thing called 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:01.000 the Internet. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:07.280 Here here's one, the the tip and tet. That's how 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:08.440 long it took me to come up. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.520 With that tip and tet for the Internet. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.679 But in ten years it'll just be called the tip. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.480 I'm going to log onto the tip Governor. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.920 So let's say your word was, and this was in 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.440 Ocean's eleven, specifically, trouble is the word that you're trying 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:26.599 to say. Cockney rhyming slang for trouble is Barney rubble awesome, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.440 And so you would say you're making a bit of 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.720 the Bonnie rubbled again. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.280 Right when somebody that was kind of who was. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.159 That making a bit of Bonnie rubble? Not the see 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.040 I already did it wrong. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.560 No, but I think that like a real person to 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.279 an American for sure. Oh yeah, I can't, I can't. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:48.560 I'll shout it out later. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.240 Man, I finally did a good one. We just I 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:52.800 just don't know who. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.400 But it wasn't a Cockney person, is okay. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:03.400 Another example for Queen, they would use the term baked bean. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.279 Look it is on TV, it's the baked bean, right, 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.400 and that's the queen. Or in the case of one 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:15.080 that's been dropped, what does ed use here? Bees and honey? 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.080 That one is not dropped for money? 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.800 Oh okay? But which one was apples and pears for stairs? Right? 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.880 So you would say I'm going to go up the 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:30.640 apple and stairs apples and pears? Oh man, let me 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.800 retake this. Everybody. You would say, I'm going to go 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.480 up the apples and pears to go get my wallet 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.240 to pay for this pizza, or something to that effect. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.440 But then over time people drop the pears, and so 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.760 now the word for stairs in Cockney rhyming slang is 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.760 just apples, which, if you're just standing there on the 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.400 outside like a normal American bloke, sure, by the way, 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:59.040 it means person. You have no idea why this person 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.760 just called stairs apples. You got what they were saying, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.800 because the context is there, you're going up the apples 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.280 to get your wallet to pay for the pizza. But 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.160 why would you just say that? Did you did you 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.080 hit your head? Is there something wrong with you? What's 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.400 the problem? Why would you just call that apples? Yeah, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.600 that's why it's so confounding. But the great thing about 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.520 cockney rhyming slang, and in particular the great thing about 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.240 researching cockney rhyming slang, is you learn how you get 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:30.560 from apples to stairs, and then it makes sense. Sometimes yeah, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.120 it's true, it's not always. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.000 Yeah, sometimes there's uh, it's it's not documented, which Ed 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.560 points out as one of the problems. Sometimes you can 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.400 draw the line the through line, but because it's not documented, 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.880 and sometimes these things take years and years to morph 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.520 into its final version. Right unless you unless you're you know, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.960 on the uh, what would you call streets on the door? 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.000 Now on the streets, then you wouldn't know. But I 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.439 don't know what streets is. You can it just makes 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.360 stuff up, Like there's real words. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.040 On the drums and beats, so got the drums. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.680 Right, but they probably have a word for streets. Like 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.839 that's the whole point. You can't just make anything up 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.720 but the but you could if it hasn't been taken yet. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.760 Sure. But also that's the other thing about cockney rhyming 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.880 slang is it evolves, right, so old celebrities that no 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.640 one even knows about anymore fall away to new celebrities 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.199 whose name also rhyme with you know whatever word you're saying. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.520 Right, I thought you meant old celebrities who maybe used 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.000 to talk this way like Michael Kaine. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.440 No, he's never said any rhyming slang in his life. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.360 Of course, you got to see the movie Alfie. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.160 Maybe that's who it was. It might have been Michael Kane. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.840 I don't take that Michael Kaine. I think it was. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.680 As a matter of fact, Yeah, thank you, I'm glad 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:45.040 you did it. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.280 Noel always says a good joke is to say Michael 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:55.640 Kain in the correct accent, say the words my cocaine. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.880 And it sounds like Michael Kaine saying it. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.920 Then it sounds like the correct accent for Michael Kaine. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.880 Right, my cocaine. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.319 Well, you just blew that one out. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.000 You gotta set me up in the future. Now you 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.840 haven't recorded seeing my cocaine. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.280 Well there's I've got it two ways now. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.920 Man cocaine. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:25.400 Here's the thing, my cocaine. That's my cocaine. That's pretty good, 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.760 Michael Caine. It is good. You're right, Noel, you just 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.560 got to say it the right way and not like 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:34.120 a robot Josh. So here's one of the things that 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.040 sort of confounding if you want to look up a 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.719 like a glossary and say, well, here's what I'm gonna do. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.200 I'm gonna learn Cockney rhyming slang. So for my trip 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.240 to England, I'm really you know, I'm really in with everybody. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.079 Really. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.960 First of all, bad idea. Second of all, it's it 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.680 can be very localized and the accents are all different. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.839 Yeah, so even people in London who who all use well, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.920 people in London don't really do. But the people who 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.000 use Cockney rhyming slang in London might not even agree 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.160 on what word means. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.160 What. I'm just picturing all the people walking around England 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:13.520 laughing their arses off. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.960 Oh, I can't wait to get to that one. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.440 As we stumble through this. Yeah. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.920 Ed had a really good example of why there's no 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.920 codification of the Cockney rhyming slang. He said that when 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.680 people are creating a language, especially informal ones like slang, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.280 they don't write it all down. Quote, dear Diary referred 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.480 to my house as a cat and mouse today because 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.280 it rhymed. We all had a good laugh. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.000 Might try just calling it cat tomorrow and see how 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.679 it goes. It is it sounds funny, but that's that's 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.800 how it works. Can you stumbling across a diary that 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.360 said that? And here's the other thing too, is there 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:57.360 are cases where there is a little bit of a 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.480 reflection of the original word. And the example that it 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:05.559 gives here is twist. Yeah, like to call a woman 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.520 a twist, which I don't know if that's a derogatory 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.280 or not, or just some weird slang that no one 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:11.040 uses anymore. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.800 I don't think so, although I don't know. So yeah, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.040 these are also the people who use the C word 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:16.800 like it's nothing. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:23.800 Well, I can say fanny, oh man, I can't wait 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.520 to go back there, which we're gonna do soonest right, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.200 I'd love to do in twenty twenty maybe yeah, all right. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.480 Uh so twist came from twist and twirl, which meant girl, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.520 which is uh they were talking about like dancing with 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.320 a girl twisting and twirling in a nightclub. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.720 Let's say, so there is some connection in that one. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.960 Yeah, so girl ended up becoming twist, so that sort 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:46.560 of makes sense. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.920 There's another one called on your Todd after a guy 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.520 named Todd Sloane, and it means on your own right 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.680 and The thing is is like On your Todd, it 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.160 makes sense Sloan rhymes with own. It doesn't have to 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.120 have any connection, but that one actually does. Yeah, because 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.199 Todd Sloan was a famous jockey in the nineteenth century. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.880 Like horse jockey, yes, okay, what other kind is there? 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:08.800 Disc jockeys? 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.400 Oh yeah, sure. So his book, his memoir, was called 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.840 Todd Sloane by himself, which is weird to refer to 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.880 yourself in third person for your memoir, But there was 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.880 a line in it that apparently east Enders in London 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.080 like really picked up, I was left alone by those 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.440 I never ceased to grieve for, And so like the 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.880 idea of being alone or on your own became synonymous 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.360 with Todd Sloane. His name just happened to rhyme with that. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.200 So it's one of those rare ones where there is 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.839 a connection to it, and also rare chuck in that 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.080 this is a nineteenth century horse jockey and still today 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.440 On Your Todd is recognized as on your. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.160 Own, whereas a lot of people probably have no idea. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.480 Exactly from who he is. And when that happens that 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.640 frequently that person gets moved out for potentially another celebrity 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.839 or another word that's a little more understandable. Recognized another 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.200 new jockey to people today, Right, yeah, exactly. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.079 Which can you name one? 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:06.480 Nope? 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.600 Nope, all right, maybe we should take a break and 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.880 we'll talk about some of the other some other examples 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.720 after this message. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:25.000 Salvation, no sevision, no. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.000 Okay, we're back. Jerry just opened the loudest sandwich in 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.600 the history of the world. Really, she's like, hold on 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.000 a minute, and it's sounded like it was in a 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:40.880 space blanket. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.560 It was like Ernest opens a sandwich over here. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.960 That was a good one. Not as good as part two. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.640 No, I saw that first one in the theater. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:56.240 Yeah. So here's some other examples that have Some of 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.760 them have sort of stayed over in England and some 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.720 of have found their way, Like apparently the term put 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.720 up your dukes. Oh, I didn't know the cockney rhyming slang, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.960 so and I didn't write down where dukes came from. 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.320 But that's where it was originally a Cockney rhyming slang term. Yeah, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.120 because so you would think it had to do with 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.960 fists or something. Duke's for fists. Why didn't I write 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:19.320 that down? 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.720 Okay, But so That's another really important point to say 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.800 about Cockney rhyming slang. It's frequently rhyming slang based on slang, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.160 so the word it's replacing is the slang word to 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.000 begin with. So who knows what the dukes actually rhymed 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:33.840 with at any point? 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.880 Yeah, that's a good point. So first of all, I've 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.160 never heard this blowing a raspberry. What have you heard 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.560 of that? Yeah? That's tooting out of your that what. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.280 I just did is as much blowing a raspberry as 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.040 actually farting. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.680 Oh really? Yeah? Okay, well I've heard of giving someone 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.400 a raspberry, like, okay, that's the same thing. Yeah, okay, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:03.280 Well apparently that's derived from raspberry tart slang for fart. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:04.280 Isn't that amazing? 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:05.120 It's pretty great? 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.320 Yeah, So that one is one of the rare ones 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.160 I love talking about exceptions. Do you know that? 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:10.760 Oh? 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.720 Sure, that's one of the rare ones that made its 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.520 way to America because of right, everyone but you knows 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.200 what blowing a raspberry is? 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.760 I guess I've never heard of the term blowing, but 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.640 giving someone a raspberry same thing. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.960 I found two more. One is controversial. It's not set 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.600 in stone, but it's as good an explanation as any 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.080 get down to brass tacks. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:32.360 I saw that one too. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.960 That's a stand in for facts. Let's get down to 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:35.600 the bear facts. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:36.640 Huh. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:42.000 Possibly it's not right done. One that is one hundred percent, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.160 as far as I can tell, is bread. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.560 I saw that too. For money. Yeah. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:51.520 In America, bread and honey became just bread, right, and 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.320 it caught on here and caught on again just now. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.200 Well, bees and honey though, was also for money, right. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.840 Is that just one of the local depends on where 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:01.640 you are things. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.240 Yeah, okay, yeah, but in America, I mean, you know, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.399 we use bread. Everybody calls it bread. 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.080 Yeah. I didn't know that that'd come back. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.320 Yeah, somebody wrote in to say it had come back. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.880 Let's get this bread right. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.360 I guess. So that's over familiar. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.399 You need to spend more time on Reddit. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.320 Here's another one. Dog and bone stands in for phone, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.719 call me on the dog and bone. Sure, And then 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.399 Ed says there may be some kind of correlation between 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:34.919 one silver words that lead off that phrase staying in 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.320 the phrase, But I don't There are so many exceptions. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.760 I don't know if there is a rule exactly. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.280 And I think that's really, this is worth saying. We 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.360 looked all over the place I know ed did too, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:51.399 for straight up linguistic dissertations and papers on cockney rhyming slange. Right, 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.720 it's not there. No, it's just treated as fun and hilarious, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.120 even though it is its own made up language that's 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.199 ever evolving. Still live is around. We'll talk about the 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.080 history in a minute for one hundred and fifty plus years. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.760 But apparently no linguist has ever thought enough of it 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.320 to sit down and write a genuine paper about it. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.080 So we couldn't find that. But the one thing that 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:18.240 really occurred to me was in looking into it. I 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.880 don't know if it could ever be explained. I think 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.760 it's the result of so many individual decisions and then 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.240 collective agreements to take up and go along with those decisions. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.240 Yeah, and those. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.320 Agreements can be totally undermined by a new individual decision 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.280 that catches on how could you possibly map and even 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.439 understand all or explain all of that different stuff. But 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.679 even though we can't explain it, once you start to 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.560 learn how it works, it's understandable. So you can't explain, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.359 but you can't understand it. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.640 Yeah, and it's like I always wonder with any kind 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.560 of slang or like who makes the stuff up, who 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.120 sets the rules. It's probably just the kind of thing 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.320 that just starts on a playground and spreads from there 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:09.320 and gets codified unofficially. Yep. Then everyone's using it, sure, 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.160 but I wonder if they're I don't know. You can't 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.760 trace this stuff, which is sort of frustrating as researchers, 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.080 because I think we like to pinpoint things. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.000 Yeah, but it I mean people have tried to trace 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.439 it and they've come awfully close. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.439 Well, we'll get to that in a minute. Okay, I 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.040 want to go over some more of these. All right, 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.760 I want to get up on my plates and get out. 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.480 Of here your meat, your plates of meat. 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:35.359 Plates of meat, which is feet or between podcasts, you 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.560 probably have to go take a rattle. Yep, rattle and hiss, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.639 rattle and hiss like a snake. You got it, And 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.879 that's means peep, right exactly. And then I guess we 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.159 should talk about ars. Yeah, sure, that's the one you 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.400 were pretty excited about. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.280 Yes, because it goes even so much farther than urs 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.040 even Yeah, it's pretty convoluted. Okay, you want to take 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.960 it no, go ahead, Okay, so ours the very famous 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:05.320 named for ass in the UK. Everybody knows that. Sure, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.119 it's actually it comes from Aristotle, which you're like, well, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.680 what does that have to do with ass? Well, let 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:16.840 me tell you. Aristotle is Cockney rhyming slang for bottle. Again, 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.840 the question is what does that have to do with ass? Well. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:24.159 Originally the Cockney rhyming slang word for ass was bottle 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.399 and glass, right, became shortened to bottle. Somebody came along 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:31.800 and rhymed Aristotle with it. That got shortened to aris 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.240 and then to Arsey goes even further than that. Oh yeah, 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:43.880 I saw one plaster for ars plaster of Paris, Aris, Aristotle, bottle, 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:48.040 bottle and glass ass. That's how deep that Cockney rhyming 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.160 slang has covered up the collective ass of the UK. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:56.160