1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: My wife and her best friend accused me of having 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: an affair, then got angry when I didn't have one. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: This is OKOP, Home of the Craziest Stories on Earth. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm Sam and John. This is really special relationship episode. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: We're going to go through a bunch of crazy relationship stories. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: But what do you think should hope Pea's wife be 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: mad that he didn't have an affair. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: This is the one of the dumbest premises I've ever 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: heard story because it's like, Wow, I found out that 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: you're not cheating, I'm leaving you what hey, you know what. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm so mad you better go and have an affair 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: right now to fix this. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for everyone coming through Viagra Pooh pooh 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: the raven I watched daily Thank you. This is a 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: live one and let's lively get into it. So I 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 1: thirty one male and my wife twenty nine female, had 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: a baby last December. It was a traumatic birth and 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: my wife developed postpartum depression. Rough While she was originally 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: going to go back to work after the birth, she's 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: been struggling that we decided to wait until our daughter 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: was a year old and reassess. She has been going 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: to therapy weekly. With my wife home full time, I've 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: had to work increased hours. This is something we discussed 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: prior to making the decision, as she knew this from 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the start, so it sounds like they had all agreed 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: upon it initially. A few weeks ago, my boss approached 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: me about a project that will require a lot of 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: overtime in a short amount of time. It would both 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: be great financially and for my career. I talked to 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: my wife about it, and she agreed that I should 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: say yes to my boss and for the four weeks 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: i'd be working on this, my mother in law and 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: her best friend Jesse twenty nine female name change would 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: come help out with some of the duties that I 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: typically do. 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: Sam, I have to say it. I have to say it, 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: say it. 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Put in I see you in the comments right now 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: if you see what's about to go down. Jesse's coming in. 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: He's working overtime, grinding on long hours. 41 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Looks he got to be really grinded on. 42 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Put a nice you come on, Jessee. 44 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: It too is a stay at home bomb with a 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: four year old and a two year old. She began 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: coming over during the day and would watch the kids 47 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: with my wife. Three weeks into the project, it became 48 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: clear that we'd need a few more weeks to get 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: it together. I went home that night and talked to 50 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: my wife about it. She said she was okay with it, 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: but got very cold in the days after. I guess, 52 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: like cold feet. It wasn't unusual behavior the last few 53 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: months because I imagine of the postpartum depression. So I didn't 54 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: think much of it and tried not to take it 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: personally during the last week of the project, right because 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: he's done that super big projecting, big business. I got 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: home one night and saw that Jesse was still at 58 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: the house. I didn't think much about it and said 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: hi to her and my wife and then went go 60 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: back to change and check on our daughter. Before I 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: could get to her room, I heard Jesse say something 62 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: along the lines of he doesn't even stop to greet you. 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Definitely a sign, and I imagine a sign of jetie. Dude, 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: that's like a red flag in a friend. I'm gonna 65 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: drop that. 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: He was so he was so exasperated. Red flag. 67 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: That's like that's I feel like that's reading way too 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: much into the lines. 69 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: You know, why, why do we have to do. Like, honestly, 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: I truly think we've read enough of these stories and 71 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: like different experiences of these type of best friends to 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: see that they kind. 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: Of just want the drama. 74 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: They live for the drama, they live for the and 75 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: it really messes up the friends' lives because it's like, 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: if the husband is innocent, you're creating all of this 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: over nothing, over such a You're just taking. 78 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Such minute detail like he didn't greet you when he 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: came home, and yep, cheating affair. 80 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Literally like could be tired, could be, that's not. 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: There's a million other things. Million And also I hate 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: how like this person is inserting themselves into the relationship 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: to which is generally a bad move. But I would like, yeah, Victoria, 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: thank you for putting the red flags. 85 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: Drop them. 86 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's definitely a red flag. So I 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: turned around and asked what it was a sign of 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: It's like confronting it. Immediately, my wife started crying and 89 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Jesse started accusing me of having an affair. She told 90 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: me that I must hate my wife because she has 91 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: postpartum depression and not attracted her because she gained weight 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: from the pregnancy. 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: Oh that's use saying, now, yeah, dude, a great friend. 94 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: It's like, why would you even love my fats so luckily? 95 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: Why don't you love her? 96 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Neither of these things are true. I'm trying my best 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: to help my wife through a postpartum depression while supporting 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: our family, and I think she looks great how she 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: is right now. She just hasn't wanted to have sex, 100 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: and I haven't pushed. Jesse then demanded, when I see 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: my phone? I told her, now, she told me that's 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: a sign I'm guilty. 103 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: God, I mean, at that point, you do low key 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: kind of have to give it up just to be 105 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: like I have nothing to prove. Yeah, go ahead. But 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: but also it's like there's no if he's truly innocent, 107 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: there's no reason too. 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: But that's I'm gonna go up to strangers on the 109 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: street now and it's like, here's suspicious, give me your phone, 110 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: and if they don't give it to me, you're cheating. 111 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: They're you're cheating, You're cheating. 112 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: I love that. 113 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, great exposing cheaters on the street. Great series. We 114 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: should do it. I told my wife that I would 115 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: let her see my phone if she wanted to. She nodded, 116 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: and then something inside me broke because she wanted to 117 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: see his phone. I guess it was the thought that 118 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: she actually believed I was having an affair that really 119 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: got to me, and that she didn't trust me after 120 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: everything we've been through. Well, she looked through the phone 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and there was no evidence. Jesse started saying that I 122 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: deleted the evidence. Oh my god, Jesse is the most 123 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: toxic friend ever. Yes, she started screaming and woke up 124 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: our daughter, so I told her to get out of 125 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the house. 126 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: Screaming John waking up a child like this is so ridiculous. 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Eventually, she left and I went to calm our daughter 128 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: since my wife was still on the couch crying. When 129 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: my daughter was asleep again, I sat down by my 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: wife and tried to talk to her about what's been happening. 131 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: She told me she's been worried ever since I started 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: working all the overtime. I told her that we talked 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: about how good of an opportunity it was, and she 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: agreed to letting me take on the project. She said 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: it was very suspicious to increase the length of the project. 136 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I told her that sometimes that happens. She wanted more evidence, 137 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: so I showed her messages and emails with timestamps from 138 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: work and pay stubs showing the overtime. She said she 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: believed me and was sorry for doubting me. It was 140 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: just that Jesse has been telling her that these were 141 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: signs of cheating. 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: Jesse's planting this. 143 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Jessee was panting, Yeah, because it was all fine before 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Jesse came into the picture, all good. They had agreed 145 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: upon it. 146 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: They had agreed upon it. And I can also understand too, 147 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Like we've heard a lot of stories where there was 148 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: like apology, like they were like, oh, let's like open 149 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: up the relationship, and later they regretted it. So I 150 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: could see, especially with the postpartum depression, like those thoughts arising, 151 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: But Jesse was the one planting the seed and fanning 152 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: the flanks. 153 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean postpartum depression is already hard, and 154 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: then if you add a super toxic friend into the mix, 155 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: it gets even worse. And like Angie Wetson said, Jesse 156 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: is projecting. Probably Jessie probably got cheated on and just 157 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: doesn't want anyone to have a happy relationship. 158 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Jesse is the crazy friend. 159 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 160 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I asked her why she believed Jesse more than me, 161 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: and why she didn't come to me with her concerns. 162 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: She didn't have a real answer. It's been a couple 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: of weeks and the project is over. I actually scaled back, 164 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to work a little less than I 165 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: was before on the project so I can spend more 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: time with my wife and daughter. But I feel so 167 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: burnt out to do everything, and I'm becoming resentful because 168 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I know that my 169 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: wife doesn't trust me. I ask myself, what happens the 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: next time I have a project, or I have to 171 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: run Errand's one day, or if I'm a business trip, 172 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Am I going to come back every time to accusations 173 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: that I'm cheating. I've tried to bring it up a 174 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: couple of times. My wife tell me it's not the 175 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: time and that she's too tired or sad. I try 176 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: to be mindful of her feelings, but I wonder if 177 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that means that I can never have any of my own. 178 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to do. Here any advice for 179 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: how I can move forward? And there is a big, 180 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: juicy thick update. In fact, there are multiple thick updates. 181 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Some people might maybe remember a story at least similar 182 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: to this, but we at least now have updates today. 183 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: But what do you think, John, Like, what do you 184 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: think is something that Ope can do? 185 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: Yeah? 186 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I would love to know from you guys. Put your 187 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: answers in the comments right now. 188 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: We can discuss them. 189 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can discuss it live because this is a 190 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: lot of episode. 191 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I will say one thing really quickly to know. 192 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: I do think the husband is maybe being a teensy 193 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: bit harsh just considering like that Jesse was the one 194 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: planting everything and that she's going through the postpartum depression. 195 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: I think I would and he's probably just kind of 196 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: like in shock of like, oh my god, these accusations 197 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: and how the friend Jesse, I would I would cut 198 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: her a little bit of. 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: Slack, especially because of the postpartuner depression. 200 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: Especially because of the post part impression. 201 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: Look, when when a friend is planting ideas in your 202 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: head and just you can just get caught in the 203 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: spin cycle and like deeply for text. That's why she 204 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: didn't have an answer when he asked her, Yeah, why didn't. 205 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Why because because it wasn't her, like like it wasn't 206 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: coming from her, Yeah, she was coming from her friend. 207 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: She didn't have these thoughts of like he's cheating, it's 208 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: coming directly from her friend. But I do think what 209 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: op should do in this scenario is like, hey, I mean, 210 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I love you want to like, you know, keep this 211 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: thing going to a baby on the way or out 212 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: of the way in the world. Yeah, maybe it's in 213 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: the world, maybe he's there, this is live. But I 214 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: think what maybe he could do is be like, hey, 215 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: I totally understand that thoughts like this happen. You know, 216 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: you're you're going through a lot mentally, But I don't 217 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: think Jesse should still be coming over. Yeah, like I 218 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: think you. I think that is like the very least 219 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: you could do, like setting out down that border. Gustavo says, 220 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Jesse needs to be locked up. She is a menace 221 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: to society. 222 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: Let's go I don't know about locked up. 223 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Maybe definitely locked out of the house, right to jail, 224 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: straight to jail. But John, you want to get into 225 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: this thick, juicy update, let's do it. So this comes. 226 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: So the first came from the like eight twenty three, 227 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: and now we are one like a couple days later, 228 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: like eight days later, so there's more context of the situation. Wait, 229 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: what uh Oh, my wife passed on early Monday morning, 230 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: like passed on is and died. I mean, my wife 231 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: passed on early Monday morning. Convinced by her friend Jesse 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: that I was having an affair that I didn't have. 233 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: She had a mental break, which resulted in my taking 234 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: her infant daughter and staying with my parents for a while. 235 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: She was with her parents, who planned on taking her 236 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: to the hospital for an inpatient treatment on Monday. On 237 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Sunday night, she came to my parents' house and demanded 238 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I give her our daughter because she had left her 239 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: alone for several hours the last time she was responsible 240 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: for her and had gotten physical with me and I refused. 241 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: I offered to let her come in and spend time 242 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: with her while my parents and I were present, but 243 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: she didn't want to come in and wanted to take 244 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: our daughter with her. She was upset, but left. Eventually 245 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: a few hours later, she drove into a tree and died. 246 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I think intentionally, wowe. 247 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: I was not expecting a return. 248 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: The friend Jesse came to see my daughter and yesterday, 249 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: which I mean, this is maybe too much, but like 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: there has to be some blame put on Jesse for 251 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: like really kind of manipulating it this like very yeah, 252 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: hurt person. It's such Yeah, maybe not like all the blame, 253 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, Ashley says, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, Amy, it's heavy. 254 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: We were starting with everyone else. The friend Jesse came 255 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: to see my daughter and me yesterday. After some tears, 256 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: she told me that she was planning to speak at 257 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: my wife's funeral. Question for the chat question for John, 258 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: would you let Jesse speak at your wife's funeral or 259 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: your significant other's funeral? 260 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: I would definitely need some time to think about it, 261 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: and I would like, if I am in a pe shoes, 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: I would be like, I don't know, give me, give 263 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: me some time. 264 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 265 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: I would probably be so angry that I couldn't even Yeah, 266 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: everyone's saying no. Meredith says no, The Raven says no. 267 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah says no. 268 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: Nose across the board from me. I would definitely say no. Yeah. 269 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: I would definitely. I mean, like, and I don't know 270 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: if it's even the right thing to do, but like 271 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: emotionally at that point I would. 272 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: I would just you can't get yeah, you can't blame 273 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: someone for because so hard, like all of these things 274 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: just happened to op right, biggest thing being his wife 275 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: passing away because of this whole thing, You really can't 276 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: blame him, you know, like for anyone would have a 277 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: I feel like an intense emotional reaction. Yeah, it's just 278 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: it is what it is, grief. 279 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna dive back in. So after some tears, 280 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: she told me she was planning to speak at my funeral. 281 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: She had already cleared it with my in laws, but 282 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: was letting me know as a courtesy. Oh my god, Like, 283 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, just letting you know, just let 284 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: me know. 285 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: What the in laws don't know. 286 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: You think you think Jesse's lying or not revealing the 287 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: whole truth. 288 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's at a bare minimum omitting the truth. 289 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. 290 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I told her she would not be speaking at 291 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the funeral, which I feel like is a good move. Yes, 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: we fought, and she left after telling me that I 293 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: was in a hole and not the only person who 294 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: loved my wife, which is a good rebuttal but it's 295 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: like you weren't showing her love while she was living. 296 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 297 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: I talked to my in laws, who were adamant that 298 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Jesse be allowed to speak. She and my wife knew 299 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: each other since they were kids. Oh that makes it complicated. 300 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and my. 301 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: In laws are close to her. We're all very fragile 302 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: right now, and I fear that pushing this further would 303 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: hurt my relationship with my in laws, which I don't want, 304 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: especially because there's a kid still. The thought of seeing 305 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: Jesse up there at my wife's funeral makes me feel sick. 306 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't think I can stand to listen to her 307 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: knowing that she took joy in my wife's deteriorating mental 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: health and picked up my wife, leaving my daughter home alone. 309 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: That being said, I don't trust myself to make the 310 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: best decisions right now. My mind's clouded by grief, guilt, 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: and fear. 312 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 313 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Of course, my parents are split on what to do, 314 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: and I don't have the energy to reach out to 315 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: my friends. So I'm coming here to reddits again to 316 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: ask you for your advice. 317 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 318 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: So, I mean I want to hear from all of 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: you guys in the chat, Like, what advice do you 320 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: have for op Would you stand clear and say like, hey, 321 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let Jesse speak at the funeral. I 322 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: would love to know what you guys think. But John, 323 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: what will you do. 324 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, in quick preface, this is kind of 325 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: like an impossible It's kind of impossible to imagine yourself 326 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: in this scenario without actually having gone through it. That 327 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: being said, I think me personally, I probably would just 328 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: let her out. I might even like step out while 329 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: she's while she's speaking, because again, I do want to 330 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm assuming I, you know, love the in laws. I 331 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: want my I want my child to continue to have 332 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: a good relationship with their grandparents, and and and just 333 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: not uh, I'm I'm already going through all this stuff 334 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: with Jesse. 335 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 336 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: Bring that to the grandparents while they're grieving their child 337 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: lost their child. 338 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that's rough though, is like does it like 339 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: to have to think about balancing all of these social 340 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: dynamics at a at the funeral when like, really, the 341 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: only thing that you should have to do is just grieve. 342 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: We're yeah, let yourself grief, Yeah, give yourself the space. Yeah, 343 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: And like that kind of crowds that space. But is 344 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: the damage that can potentially happen greater by not allowing that? 345 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: And it's also like, because now you're bringing those same 346 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: dynamics and one hundred things to think about to the grandparents. 347 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: That to me is the thing. It's like, now they're 348 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: having to go through all of this too. I think 349 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: maybe let her speak, maybe step out while she's speaking. 350 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: At some point afterwards. 351 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: Uh It's kind of hard to say when, but at 352 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: some point afterwards, sit the grandparents down and like let 353 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: them know the truth so Jesse doesn't continue to try it, Like, 354 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: let's let's eventually get. 355 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: Jesse out of here. Honestly, I don't want Jesse near 356 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: my child. 357 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Definitely not near the child. No, yeah, no, maybe read 358 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: something comments from some people, so like Burning Rose says, 359 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Jesse doesn't get to go to the funeral, go no 360 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: contact with her and the in laws too if they 361 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: try to push, which I could see going. No contact 362 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: with Jesse for sure, But it feels like Opie wants 363 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: a relationship with the in law kind of assuming that's 364 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: what it's. Yeah, that's what it seems. Yeah, it seems 365 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: like like it seems like, uh, op he's trying to 366 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: preserve the relationship with the in laws but does not 367 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: want Jesse there. Nicole Stewart says, with the history of 368 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: the family and connection from a young age and not 369 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: wanting to piss off the in laws. I would bite 370 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: my tongue and let her talk. I feel like that's 371 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: probably cool. 372 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Nicole. I would say, I'm probably uh on 373 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: board with you on that. 374 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Carr says, this is such a sucky situation. 375 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: I honestly be more worried that she would try to 376 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: push the narrative that, oh, he was cheating. I didn't 377 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: even think about that. 378 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: I did not think about that, car, dude. That is 379 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: such a good. 380 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: Point, good point, Carr, Yeah, very good, because because. 381 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: What if she what if her what if she starts 382 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: of ass. 383 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: Starts spreading lies that. 384 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: One tries to expose them at the funeral? 385 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: That would be what if she you mean, at the speech, 386 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: because we already know how insane she is. We already 387 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: know that she's willing to disrupt the piece and all this, 388 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: and she loves the drama, wake up the baby other stuff. 389 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh dude, I could totally see her doing it. Unfortunately, Okay, 390 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: that could Carr kind of change my position. 391 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think so too. No Jesse at all. 392 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: I think I go to Jesse and I'm like, I'm 393 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: not gonna give you the chance the opportunity, and maybe 394 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: maybe at that point you do bring that to the grandparents, 395 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: because here's what's worse, Jesse ruining the funeral for the grandparents. 396 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: That's actually worse. 397 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: And it feels like something that could potentially happen, could 398 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: potentially happen, but uh, you know what definitely will potentially 399 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: happen in this live stream? 400 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: What is that? 401 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I think you reading this next story? 402 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 403 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Wow? 404 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: Are we over? 405 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: We're over? Oh my, that's the last update? 406 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: Dude. Wow, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest. I 407 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: was just like clutching the edge of edge edge of 408 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: my seat and then. 409 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: Is that that that? That is the last update? Yeah? 410 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh wait, oh no, wait wait wait wait you missed one? 411 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: Did I miss one? 412 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 413 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: Okay, where where where where? There is some like I guess, 414 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: juicy middle part that I may have missed. So I'm 415 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: gonna do that middle. 416 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: Part all right, Okay, so in the context. 417 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to fill in some more context. So 418 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: there is an update. This is I guess a little 419 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: bit before Op says I need to go to the 420 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: therapist and start looking after my own mental health. A 421 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: couple people asked for an update, so I'm giving one, 422 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: but it's not happy that that night, I approached my 423 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: wife and told her that I was going to find 424 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: a therapist. I didn't connect it to her accusations or anything, 425 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: just said I was having a tough time and needed therapy. 426 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: So again, we're kind of going back in time a 427 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: little bit and getting some more contexts that Ope like, 428 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: I guess maybe didn't have in the first one. Yes, 429 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: she shrugged and told me to do whatever. Next day, 430 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: I got home from work in our room in my 431 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: home office were ripped apart, things everywhere, important papers scattered. 432 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't see her, but our daughters in her room crying. 433 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: My wife left her alone, her cells off. So again, 434 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: this is before every like like oh Ope's wife passed. 435 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: I called my in laws and a few friends, but 436 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: no one's seen her. I'm starting to get worried, and 437 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: I call my mom to see if she can babysit 438 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: while I go out and look for her. Before my 439 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: mom get home, my wife gets back, Jesse's driving, So 440 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: now we're getting the context what actually happened when she disappeared. Right, 441 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Jesse doesn't come in. She hasn't been back in the 442 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: house since I kicked her out because she was offended 443 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: by my behavior. A good thing that you kicked her out, 444 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: but my wife does. She's clearly upset, been crying. I 445 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: asked what happened. I thought at first the house might 446 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: have been robbed. She starts screaming at me that I'm 447 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: being unfaithful and that the therapy is affront so I 448 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: can meet my mistress, which I imagine is planted by Jesse. 449 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I try to calm her down and 450 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: tell her that's not true, but she came at me 451 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: and she hit me. My nose is broken, so it's 452 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: not even a light hit. 453 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 454 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: She kind of realized what she did and sat down 455 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: on the couch and went comatose, just stared at the wall. 456 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: I went to my daughter's room and locked the door, 457 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: called my mom to tell her what happened. She was 458 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: already on her way, and my mother in law to 459 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: ask her to come over and take care of my wife. 460 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I packed a bag for my daughter, and when my 461 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: mom got there, we left. My wife didn't even look up. 462 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: We dropped my daughter off with my dad and then 463 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: went to urgent care for my nose because the nose 464 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: is completely broken. I got blood all over my mom's 465 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: new Subaru. I mean, luckily superus are pretty durable, but 466 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: so sorry, I. 467 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: Just had to sell these all no responsors. No responsors 468 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: named the vehicle. 469 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: My daughter and I are staying. That was bad. 470 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 471 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: My daughter and I are staying with my parents for 472 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: a while, and my wife's staying with hers. I'm looking 473 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: into getting a restraining order against Jesse. My wife and 474 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: I are separating. I love her, but I won't live 475 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: with someone who hurts me and who could potentially hurt 476 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: our daughter. I am not going forward to the divorce 477 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: with hopes that my wife will get the treatment she 478 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: needs and we can work things out. My in laws 479 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: told me that they're looking at an impatient treatment at 480 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: a local hospital, but I also have everything well documented 481 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: in case of an eventual custody battle. My heart's broken 482 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: because I know this isn't my wife. This is a 483 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: sickness in her mind. But I need to keep myself 484 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: and our daughter safe and give her the space to recover. 485 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this is the right decision. Thanks everyone. 486 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: So I guess that's that's more of the context that 487 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: we kind of missed in between those two updates. But 488 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's so rough because it's like 489 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: you can i mean, people change, you know, in. 490 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: Terms of like Jesse, oh, in terms of in terms 491 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 3: of the wife. 492 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: It's like it's like and it's it's not it's hard 493 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: because it's like not really her fault at all. 494 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean some people like develop schizophrenia and 495 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: they're like thirties and forties, you know, and it's like. 496 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Fuck, dude, don't tell me that. I hell her around 497 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: the corner. 498 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: There we go. 499 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, also this gives me even more 500 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: is the context. Yeah, thinking about Carr's comment of like 501 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 2: what if Jesse comes to try to ruin the funeral, 502 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: this makes me think even more that Jesse is going 503 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: to do that. 504 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean we just got more 505 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: context that like she like was driving Opie's wife, she was, 506 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: she possibly contributed tearing up the entire place, And what 507 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: I guess Opie was saying in the third update was 508 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: like she was the one that left the daughter home alone. Yeah. 509 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: Daughter, I feel like as soon as you tell the 510 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: grand the in laws that like, yeah, Jesse like you know, 511 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: left left her alone, that's like enough because he's left 512 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: her alone to prioritize stirring up the drama like that 513 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: alone should be enough to get her out of the funeral. Yea, hopefully. Yeah. 514 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: I feel like if I if I like, if I 515 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: presented this to uh the the like mother in law, 516 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: father in law, be like like, look, this is this 517 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: is my documentation of what's happened. Yes, like she cannot 518 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: be there. That's right, Dannielle said, this story is so 519 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: sad and tragic. Yeah, completely. How old is the daughter? 520 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: The daughter is a newborn, so it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, 521 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: so I imagine it's like maybe no more than a 522 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: year old, Yeah, probably less, but yeah, so that uh 523 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: we we just we just got we got like a 524 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: little bit more context and Sarah, thank you for tuning 525 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: into the live. Yes got her, you're here. But John, 526 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: now that we have the full story, this full sad, 527 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: sad story to start with, do you have another story 528 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: for me? Possibly that is maybe a little less sad? 529 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: Producer Riley, Right, do we have is our next story? How? 530 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: What's what's the mood? What's the vibes? 531 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you just gotta figure it out. 532 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: We just got to figure it out, all right, We're 533 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: gonna do that. 534 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: Nothing easy nothing easy, okay, producer Riley keeping us on 535 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: our toes with this story. Am I the ahole for 536 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: returning the shoes I got from my husband after he 537 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: accused me of stealing from him? 538 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Again? 539 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: This is OKOP, Home of the Craziest true stories on Earth. 540 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm John and Sam. Do we think the op is 541 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: a dirty, filthy thief? 542 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I think Op is a dirty, filthy thief 543 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: and he's trying to cover up the tracks by using 544 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: Reddit as an alibi. Wow, I wrote those Reddit posts 545 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: and it says I'm innocent. How could I not be innocent? 546 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: Well, we're about to see. We're about to get another 547 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 2: verdict from all of you watching me right now. 548 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: If my no context guess is right. 549 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: Woo. 550 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: So this is from Campfire by Lake seventy seven, who 551 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: says my twenty nine husband thirty six is the bread 552 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: winner of the family. I stay at home with the 553 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: kids who are preschool age. He pays for the mortgage, builds, 554 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 2: household needs, food, kids, et cetera, et cetera. He has 555 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: set a monthly budget for each category and handles getting 556 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: everything done. Recently, he has become overwhelmed and told me 557 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: to handle grocery shopping. But before he let me, he 558 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: asked me to write a list of all the stuff 559 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: that we need so he could calculate the total. And 560 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: also and also so he'd have an idea of how 561 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: much I'll be spending when I take his credit card. 562 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: So he's still staying on top of the budget, like 563 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: doing his budgeting. 564 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: It feels like too much. 565 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: Uh A little bit. Well, I mean Bro was doing uh, 566 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: he was providing for the family, handling the budget and 567 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: handling grocery shopping. 568 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: Like is he handling grocery shopping? 569 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: Passing it off? Now? 570 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 2: I believe right, he's passing it off. Yeah, so he 571 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: was grocery shopping and he's like, this is too much. 572 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to pass it off. But I'm I'm staying 573 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: on my budget game. Let me know so I can 574 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 2: like account for that. 575 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: Wow, that is that would be so stressful doing that 576 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: detailed of a budget. 577 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: I think. 578 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: I think what you're pointing out, which which is a 579 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: good observation, is so I can know how much to 580 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: expect you'll spend. 581 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Some people are putting financial abuse in 582 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: the chat. The Raven says it, Yeah, it feels like 583 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: it feels like a lever of control. 584 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because why don't is they just say like, hey, 585 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna shoot for one thousand bucks a month. 586 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: Just try to stay beside that. 587 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: That's really what he's that's reasonable. But it's like, don't 588 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: spend more than five dollars on milk a week, like 589 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: bro way way way actually know, sometimes costs more. Do 590 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: you see about the egg crisis and eggs were crazy 591 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: expensive for a while, eggs. 592 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: Blowing up out here. Well, back to the story. 593 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: I didn't have an issue with that because this way 594 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: we would watch our spending habits. However, he said, I'm 595 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: never allowed to get something that isn't on the list 596 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: unless I'm paying for it some other way. 597 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: And here we go, Pattison, But how how she's taking 598 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: care of your children? 599 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: This is this is the like financial control. This is 600 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: him like sinking his clawst him. Yeah, this is crazy. 601 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: This show's he's crazy. 602 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: That is a red flat red flags in the chat, 603 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: red flags in that seems like a red flag. 604 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: To you, giant, giant, giant red flag. Again, Like, I 605 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: feel like all you would need to do is be like, hey, 606 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: let's shoot for one thousand a month. 607 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go like. 608 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: A little bit over who cares? Actually, I don't really. 609 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean I've never been married, so I don't actually 610 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: know how this works. Do you, like for anyone who 611 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: is married in the chat? Like, do you guys like 612 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: have budgets for like groceries or like budgets for especially 613 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: like stay at home moms? Like do you have like 614 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: budgets for how much you spend or that you agree on? 615 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean people have budgets. 616 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know how it works. How does 617 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: it work if you have budgets? 618 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know about your break Oh, share your budget, 619 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: share your budget, let us know I mean your philosophy. 620 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to give numbers eggs every security number. Job. 621 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Anyways, So on Friday, I was doing some grocery shopping 622 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: as usual, and saw that the store had some. 623 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Nice shoes on sale. 624 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: The price was insanely low for this brand, and so 625 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: is it on the list. 626 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: I have a. 627 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Suspicion it's not a less Oh my goodness. 628 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: And so I decided to grab a pair for my husband, 629 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: not even for her, yep, yep, thinking that he'd be 630 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: happy with them since he needed new sneakers. Anyways, I 631 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: bought them and When I showed them to him, he 632 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: flipped out on me, saying I made a huge mistake 633 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: by buying something that was not on the list. 634 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I wonder my question is, are they like, what is 635 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: their financial situation like, are they're like super strapped? Yeah, 636 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and so every dollar counts or does like man have 637 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: like a comfy tech job and he's just being super controlling. Yeah, 638 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it's just the controlling. 639 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: It's the controlling. 640 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: It feels like it's the control. 641 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of guess and assume that maybe they're 642 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 2: not like super super loaded, but it's he's this is 643 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: clearly him just doing control. I think, yeah, it wouldn't 644 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: even matter if he made me because there. 645 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it feels like there's just no trust, 646 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: like financial trust in this relationship. 647 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: It's so Yeah, it's so dumb. 648 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Because if you if you just agree upon a budget, 649 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: then there's financial trust. It's like, oh, I can I 650 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: can go about and like work within what we've agreed upon. 651 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: But this is way too over there. 652 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: And why would you like it? 653 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: It would be if I was the husband, I would 654 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: be stressed out keeping track of all this. It's just 655 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: further shows he's using it as a means of control 656 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: over the life. 657 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know. Do you think it's control or 658 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: do you think man is just on his budget game? 659 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: But your answer to watch a lot of Dave Ramsey 660 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: financial guru over here. Yeah, let us know what you 661 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: think for your answers in the chat and we have 662 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: it live. 663 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: We have it live. 664 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: So I agreed with him, but I thought that since 665 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: the shoes were for him, that it would be different. 666 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: He said, I screwed up and shouldn't have bought those sneakers, 667 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: even without telling them. But in my defense, I said 668 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: that the price was low, so it's not like I 669 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: spent one hundred dollars on shoes. And also I saw 670 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: that this was a great deal and wanted to and 671 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: wanted him to have those nice sneakers. He plainly said 672 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: that what I did is considered stealing, since he never 673 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: you're team y'all, you're married, you're married sense. He never 674 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: consented to having those sneakers purchased, and said that I'm 675 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: being irresponsible with his money and that is why I 676 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 2: no longer have an income and have my and have 677 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: my spending habits. 678 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Needing a grib, what's a grib. 679 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: What is a grib? 680 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: Tell us what a grib is. 681 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's like guardrails a grib. 682 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: But wow, Like also just the language that he uses 683 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: my money, Like, I feel like if you're in a 684 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: if you're in a partnership, especially in this kind of partnership, 685 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: it's like like you start using words like hour, right. 686 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: This is this, it's just further further. The more this 687 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: man owns opens his mouth, the further it shows that 688 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: he's like grossly discussed. 689 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I think Kristenrolling has a solution for us. Oh de 690 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: worse devorse de corse devorsese worse. Yeah, I agree. I 691 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: agree that I think it's a way, a way, like 692 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: definitely a method of control. 693 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: Leave this guy, my goodness, I felt hurt by what 694 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: he said, as you should, as you should. We argued 695 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: about it for hours, and he avoided speaking to me 696 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. What a baby, What 697 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: a douche? Yeah, this guy's big old doe awful. The 698 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: next day I went and returned the sneakers and took 699 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: the money back. He got home in the evening and 700 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: lost it when he found out I returned them. Yeah, 701 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: this guy, this guy's no, no, He's. 702 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: Like, I was bad that you bought the but now 703 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: I feel attached to totally my style. 704 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: Literally completely to control her, and just like it's it's 705 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: not about the shoes. 706 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: No, not about the shoes, about the money, It's. 707 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Not about that. It is all control. 708 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: He got home in the evening and lost it when 709 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: I found out I had to return them. 710 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: He said that he couldn't believe how petty and childish 711 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: I was to actually do this. 712 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: How petty and childish are you? 713 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: Mother effort, I explained that I was just correcting my 714 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: quote unquote mistake. He tried to contact the store and 715 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: was told that the sneakers were already sold. He got 716 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: even angrier with me, and I told him that he 717 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: accused me of stealing for him when I was just 718 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: trying to do a nice gesture for him. He yelled, 719 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: saying that I had a lot of nerds, a lot 720 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: of nerve, calling what I did a nice gesture while 721 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: using his money to do it. I I told him 722 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: he had no right to yell at me. After I 723 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: corrected my quote unquote mistake and gave that back the 724 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: money he accused me of stealing. He threw a fit 725 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 2: and went out with his friends and came home late 726 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: at night, still not talking to me. I have something 727 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: for the breakdown. Now, Did I mess up? Maybe I 728 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: shouldn't have purchased them, knowing that they weren't on the list, 729 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: But I just wanted I just wanted him to have 730 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: those sneakers, and I thought I was doing a nice gesture. 731 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: That is the end of the story. I think that 732 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: in addition to his controlling, manipulative, just like I don't 733 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: know psychopath, I don't know the exact term psychopathic, I 734 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: don't know something. 735 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Give us some terms we can call this. 736 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, gross behavior. Basically, I think he's cheating and yeah, 737 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: he's like, okay, wow, look a look at what you 738 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: made me do, buying me shoes and returning I'm like, 739 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: literally all doing good things. 740 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: And then he goes out using that exchit to go 741 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 3: out late and cheat. Yeah. 742 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I 743 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: can say he's cheating quite yet, Like we just John's 744 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: going and I did. Yeah, but I mean like he's 745 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: definitely sus I mean, just to just to go out 746 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: late and do god knows what, like not not there's 747 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: another red flag it's like there's a communication breakdown too. 748 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: It's control and there's a breakdown of communication. I don't 749 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: know if it's something that the thing is like in 750 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: the case of divorce, like it's definitely going to be 751 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: because he has so much control over it's gonna be 752 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: hard for her too. Yeah, but I feel like it's 753 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: the it is the best path. 754 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: It is overall, like long term, the best solution. It 755 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: might hurt a lot more now in the meantime. 756 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said leave as soon as possible. Yeah. Jessica says, 757 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: leave as fast as possible. Yeah, I mean you gotta leave, 758 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: you gotta leave. It's it, it's it's it's terrible. 759 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Emotional Yeah. Someone else said emotional and financial abuse. Yeah. 760 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Then he says, wife breathes husband. How dare you? 761 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: That's what it feels That's what it feels like. 762 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 3: That is exactly what's happening. 763 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: She she's literally not only is she not doing anything wrong, 764 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: she's doing things that are good because like think. 765 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: Think about this, she's fixing problems. 766 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: She saw that his shoes were old, and it's like, 767 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to buy shoes anyways. These are a 768 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: good deal, so we will save money me getting this 769 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: deal right. 770 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: And the thing is he obviously liked them because he 771 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: wanted them back. Not only did she get like shoes 772 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: that were on sale and a great deal, she got 773 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: some swinky hass shoes that he was so mad that 774 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: he couldn't get back that he yelled at everyone he could. 775 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: What what? What? 776 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 3: More? 777 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: Like she's super thoughtful. I mean, she just has to 778 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: get out of there. I wonder if there's like, are 779 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: there like resources for like stay at home parents that 780 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: like in divorce, because like to hire a lawyer, you 781 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: need money. But if someone is super controlling of the finances, Like, 782 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: how does that? I wonder how that even works if 783 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: anyone knows, But like put your answers in the comments, 784 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: because it's like, how does that? How does that work 785 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: when you don't when when the finances are being so 786 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: controlled that you couldn't even hire a lawyer to start 787 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: to get a divorce? 788 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 789 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean maybe there's a public defender. I don't 790 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: know if you can get a public defender in absolutely everything. 791 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: I'm really not sure. 792 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have no Yeah, I mean I imagine shelters. 793 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: Shelters, it should be a place to go. 794 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: But how do you? Yeah, but how do you like? 795 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: How do you how do you get a lawyer? You 796 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: need a lawyer? 797 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: That's the question. Yeah, that is the question. 798 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: But you know what question I have for you, John? 799 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: What is that? 800 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: Are you ready to put this next story? 801 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: No? 802 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: But do it anyway, I captain. So this is today. 803 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: I aft up by accusing my husband of cheating when 804 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: I thought I had a really good reason to be suspicious. 805 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: What is the reason. 806 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the reason. What what is a 807 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: good reason leaving? Uh? 808 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: Seeing them? 809 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's a pretty good reason, babe. 810 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: I was just she she had some you know, suspicious 811 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 2: stuff going on. I was doing a thorough inspec building 812 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: a fort. He's a doctor, and he's like, the only 813 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: way I can do this inspection, that. 814 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: Is at home inspection. He was a doctor. 815 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: He was a doctor, the doctor with a migraine. I 816 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: had to turn off all the lights and then I 817 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: was on. I didn't want her to be the only 818 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 2: one naked, so I had to get naked too. 819 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for for comfort. 820 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: For comfort. 821 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: I also put in the chat some of the best 822 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: reasons to be suspicious of a partner cheating. But my 823 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: hubby's been working late on and off for the past 824 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: few weeks, which is very new because in our nearly 825 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: twelve years together, that's a long time. The one thing 826 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: he's always been adamant about is separating his work and 827 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: his home life. Sometimes he'd stay only an hour, sometimes two, 828 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: sometimes thirty minutes. I began to grow a bit suspicious, 829 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: but I haven't said anything, so I guess it's like 830 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: he's staying over like an hour, two hours, sometimes thirty minutes. 831 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: He's like he's working late. I began to grow suspicious. 832 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: Then yesterday he stayed afterwards for about an hour, which 833 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: delayed date night that we had planned. When he came home, 834 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: I was just looking at him, admiring my man, and 835 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: then I caught a glimpse of orange in his beard. 836 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: For contact X, my hubby is not ginger, neither am I. 837 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: In fact, he is black, and his hair is black. 838 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: I looked a bit closer and there was an orange 839 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: hair in his beard. It caught the light perfectly, and 840 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: it was the confirmation of my worst fears. He's eating 841 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: out a ginger oof. 842 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: That's not if. 843 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: He did not say that, but I just said ifing 844 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: knew it, and started crying, would you be suspicious if 845 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: you saw another person's hair in someone's beard, Like if 846 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: someone's if Naima saw a long red strand of hair 847 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: in your beard, would she be mad? 848 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess because you could, Like what are 849 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: the scenarios where it's innocent? 850 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: Work colleague? 851 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: You know, working? Like like, hey, all right, hey have 852 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 3: a good one. 853 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, John has gets stuff in his beard all the 854 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: time too. 855 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 2: Damn really wait, nice, have you ever seen stuff in 856 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: my beard? 857 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: And just eating eating, I'll be like, yeah, you got 858 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of schmutz all my beard. Boys like 859 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: they get schmutz in their beard? 860 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 2: What is it? Venni? Vennie says, beard is a red flag? 861 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: Sergeant guys, why what? What's that? 862 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: Just no question? Just know that it is. Oh my god. 863 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: He asked me what was wrong? And I called him 864 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: a lying cheater and he said what the F? And 865 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: I said, who's that ginger hair from? He looked confused, 866 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: and he said he knows there's a ginger hair in 867 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: his beard, and what's so bad about that? I was flabbergasted. 868 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: And then he was like, you haven't noticed this time 869 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: that I have dark orange hairs. What turns out that 870 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: his whole life. He's always had a few random orange 871 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: hairs in his beard, and that he never thought anything 872 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: about it, and I have never noticed. Nice con bro, 873 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 1: Now you have to dye those hairs so the rest 874 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: of your marriage. 875 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 876 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: He told me to grab the hair and pull on it, 877 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: and I grab some tweezers and sure enough it was 878 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: his hair, and he even look like the rest of 879 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: his hair, coarse and curly. Man, the girl was really 880 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: he was stretching. Yeah, the last girl out here. He 881 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: showed me some of the other ginger hairs that he had. 882 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: Apparently when he shaves it off and or pulls out, 883 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: it grows back ginger. I felt like the biggest idiot 884 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: in the world. My hobby took it wonderfully, and I 885 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: apologize for being so insecure and told him that I 886 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: was feeling about, you know, she was feeling about like 887 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: him working late. He said that he knows that he 888 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: that this is a problem and he's sorry, but he's 889 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: had a couple of mortgage and investment deals lately, and 890 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: he stays behind to finish the paperwork instead of punting 891 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: it to the next workday. I love how he's apologizing 892 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: for kind of having orange. 893 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: Beard hair and and for trying to be as productive 894 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: and like he's like, you know what, I need to 895 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: get ahead of it, let me finish it today. 896 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 3: So that was proactive. 897 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this company has an app to tract time, which 898 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: worked his which his boss signs off and on of. 899 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: And he logged into his app and showed me all 900 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: the authorized overtime, which perfectly lined up with the times 901 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: he had been working late. I apologize for being insecure, 902 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: and he accepted my apology and we move and we 903 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: moved on from it. But I still cringe when thinking 904 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: about it. I suck I out. Don't kill me, y'all. 905 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha. Question is this a red flag 906 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: for O P? I want to know what your thoughts 907 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: are in the chat? But John, do you think this 908 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: is a red flag? 909 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna boo. I'm gonna say red flag because the 910 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I could see the suspicion. I mean, 911 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: it's it's almost like where your mind first jumps to. 912 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 2: I guess like I'm just generally not observed it like that, 913 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 2: but like I feel like if I saw that, it 914 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't even the synapses wouldn't synapse enough to be able 915 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 2: to make the cheating is so far from your mind, 916 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: so far from my mind. But I guess apparently I 917 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: have stuff in my beard all the time. You do, 918 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: and it's so suspicious. 919 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: So it is, bro you know a lot of Riley 920 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: curls in your hair every once in a while. You 921 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: never know, dude, you never know. Yeah, right, he bring 922 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: me Riley is shedding all over the place. But John, 923 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: I feel like it may be time to pull up 924 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: that next story really quick. 925 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 2: I gotta say, Kimberly and Brazil ginger flag orange, that's 926 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: orange flag. 927 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: But while John is pulling up this new story, I'll 928 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: read some comments from the chat. So Amy Gooseman says, 929 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: my dad's hair was different textures and colors like a 930 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: calico cat. So he kept his head and beard cut 931 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: until he retired. It happens, and why and why did 932 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: the wife not notice before? I am proud to say 933 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: I know at least ninety percent of my hubby's body, 934 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: only ninety percent. You got to explore that one hundred percent. 935 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: Go inside it out, girl. 936 00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 3: We got to make that the deep ocean. 937 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah at all? Yeah, dud would be like James Cameron 938 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: spulunk to the bottom of the depths. 939 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: That's right. 940 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: Don't be like Ocean Gate though, because you don't want 941 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: to explode in the wrong place. 942 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: Billionaire, so goodness, graciou. Yeah, that's no good. What are 943 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 2: the comments we got? What do we got going on? 944 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 945 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: Ted ed and lime juice. How would she not notice 946 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: the hairs though, because depending on how long they've been together, 947 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: I feel like you would notice something like that. 948 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: I yeah, I feel like I feel twelve years, twelve years, 949 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: I that's a while. 950 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like that's a while. But like I 951 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 1: don't know, some people aren't as perceptive, and especially maybe 952 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: if he's growing out the beard and doesn't know. 953 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 3: In twelve years, you probably have done enough if you have. 954 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: I've been able to grow a beard for at least 955 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: eight years, and I've never seen it at full length because. 956 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 2: You've never got Guys, put a beard man emoji if 957 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 2: so grow a beard, do not drop beard man emojis. 958 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: Do not drop the do not please do not make 959 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: me grow a beard. 960 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 3: Drop the beard man emojis. 961 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: Guys, if we get a thousand beard man emoji, Sam 962 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: will legally be forced to have. 963 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 3: To wear or have to grow a beard. 964 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: By the way, also can we get a quick round 965 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 2: of applause for producer Riley. 966 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, this is our first long live stream. We're 967 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be live streaming for a while, 968 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: so please stick with us. We are not done yet 969 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: because John, you have a big, juicy, thick story for us. 970 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is right, And that story is my ex 971 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: girlfriend told me my current girlfriend sabotaged our relationship. Am 972 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 2: I the a hole for getting back with my ex? 973 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: This is Okayop, we read the craziest two stories on Earth. 974 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm John and Sam. Should Op get back with his X? 975 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: Uh? 976 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 3: Because the ex girlfriend is sabotage relationship? 977 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: Right? 978 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: The ex girl friend sabotage the ex girlfriend relationship. 979 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: That's what the eventually, that's what the ex is. Please, 980 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 2: I might hear her out. 981 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: I might hear her out because that at least you know, 982 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: it's a red flag for current girlfriend if it's true. Exactly, 983 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: not necessarily you should get back with the X. 984 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: But maybe if it's true, on the off chance that's true, 985 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 2: sit down and hear Yeah. 986 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: What we all recently watched The Notebook together. There was 987 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: not a dry eye in our in our house. But 988 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: she went back with Ryan Gosling at the end because 989 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: it's her first and truest love. So maybe this is 990 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 1: what is happening. 991 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so true. And then, of course what else 992 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: is true is that everyone has commented beard emoji su 993 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. 994 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: Know Sam is legally I will look so terrible. 995 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and as your reward, let's 996 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 3: get into this juicy story. 997 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: So this one comes from fur away ex girlfriend two 998 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: five three two four, who says, I, twenty eight male, 999 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: am really confused about the events of the last month. 1000 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: My ex girlfriend Julie twenty nine female thinks that my 1001 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 2: current girlfriend, Mindy twenty eight female is manipulative and sabotaged 1002 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 2: our four year relationship. 1003 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: I was Wow, that's. 1004 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: A big that's a big statement. 1005 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: I was was in a loving relationship with my ex 1006 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 2: girlfriend Julie for the last four years. We met through 1007 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 2: some mutual friends. My ex Julie and I were very 1008 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: compatible in terms of our love for outdoor activities and running. 1009 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 2: We have a very similar lifestyle and supported each other 1010 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: well for the last four years. We also have been 1011 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 2: living together for the last three of those four years. 1012 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: We even discussed getting married during the summer Everything was great, 1013 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 2: and I was planning to propose to her over the holidays. 1014 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: Planning to propose to the current girlfriend to Julie the 1015 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: ex Oh go great, right, Oh no, it's gonna go great, great. 1016 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: Right right? 1017 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: Rather, but I see chat. If you know where it's going, 1018 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna go great. 1019 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: Uh. However, However, I started to see changes in behavior 1020 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 2: and Julie around September. She was acting quite distant and 1021 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 2: looked stressed. It was quite noticeable, and I was worried. 1022 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 2: I trust her with all of my heart, and I 1023 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 2: was not worried or sorry. I trust her with all 1024 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: of my heart and I could not imagine that she 1025 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: would be cheating on me. However, she did spend more 1026 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 2: time by herself. 1027 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 1028 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 2: Around that same time, my ex Julie's friend Mindy messaged 1029 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 2: me privately and asked me if I could meet her 1030 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: secretly as she wanted to tell me something about Julie. Okay, 1031 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: Mindy and my ex Julie worked together, and I have 1032 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 2: known Mindy ever since I started dating Julie. 1033 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 3: I was surprised, but to be honest, I had assumed 1034 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: the worst. 1035 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: I met her at a cafe after work and she 1036 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: asked me if things were going okay between Julie and me. 1037 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 2: She told me that Julia had told her she was 1038 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 2: planning to leave me. 1039 00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: So, oh, oh man, that that is ice cold. Like 1040 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: we almost need like an ice pack on one of 1041 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: these cameras to to really cool this thing down. 1042 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: Almost, it's almost it's getting it's hot, it's on fire. 1043 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if we can bring it back down. 1044 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: We really don't know. I have a question for everyone 1045 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 2: in the comments right now. I mean, so she is 1046 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: going it's not even cheating. She's like, oh, she's planning 1047 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: to leave you soon. 1048 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: But that's like why would the friend do that? 1049 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: That's the thing I would I would think if it 1050 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 2: was like, hey, she's cheating on you, that's more of 1051 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 2: a reason to like actually sit sit down and get 1052 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 2: the one. 1053 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: But to say, like she's planning on why would And. 1054 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 3: Also why would you take that upon yourself? 1055 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that really your place? 1056 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: That's a I would that's a red flag. Like anyone 1057 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: who told me that, I would be like, that's a 1058 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: red flag from you. 1059 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I would think it's a 1060 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 3: red flag, but it's. 1061 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 1: Like I would, I would think it's a red flag 1062 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: from from the person telling me that information. Who are 1063 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: you to tell that to me? And that should be 1064 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: coming from my from my partner, if she's really planning 1065 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: on it should be it should be I don't know, 1066 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: let's see, but is it it is meddling? Yeah, thenny 1067 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 1068 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 3: So after Oh he got this news, this. 1069 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 2: Was a total shock to me, I asked her if 1070 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: there was anyone else. I asked her if there was 1071 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 2: anyone else do? I asked her if there was anyone 1072 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 2: else that Julie was interested in? 1073 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 3: And she told me no. Julie confided in her. 1074 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 2: That she was not sure about marrying me. She told 1075 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: me that she just had to tell me this as 1076 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 2: she didn't want me to be blindsided again in the comments, 1077 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 2: is this Mindy's place? 1078 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 3: Is this Mindy's Place? 1079 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 1080 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 6: Or no? 1081 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: Is it think? I think no? I think. I think 1082 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: it's definitely meddling. And I I just I don't think 1083 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,720 Speaker 1: that's at all. And what happened. 1084 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 2: What's not meddling is the special guests that is here too, Sophia. 1085 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 2: Guys say hi to. 1086 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: Sophia, come over here, come over here. 1087 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 2: Well she's she is. 1088 00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Fea. 1089 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 4: I'm just delivering food. 1090 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, and maybe that probably is going to come 1091 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: into live stream later today. Get ready, get ready. But 1092 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: let's go back into this story. 1093 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 2: I was devastated. I started putting more effort into making 1094 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 2: a relationship more exciting, planning more dates, et cetera, et cetera. 1095 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: Mindy was also helping me through this time and telling 1096 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 2: me more about what Julie told her. 1097 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: Oh, dude, Mindy wants some Mindy wants a piece. Yeah, 1098 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: Mindy put in the chat. Mindy wants a piece. If 1099 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: you think Mindy wants a. 1100 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: Piece, Mindy wants a piece. Eventually, before Thanksgiving, Julie told 1101 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: me that she loved me. 1102 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh, Julie wants a piece. No, that's Julie so excited. 1103 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 2: Oh, partner, But she wanted to take a break for 1104 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 2: a month to live alone. So she did technically want to, 1105 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 2: you know, quote unquotely leave she could. 1106 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 3: This makes it a lot more plausible that Mindy was. 1107 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: I can we take a like a hot sec right 1108 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: here and talk about like marriage and breaks and stuff. 1109 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if I actually necessarily see wanting to 1110 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: take a break for a little bit before getting marriage 1111 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: as necessarily a huge red flag and a relationship ender, 1112 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: especially if you're not like cooking up with people. I 1113 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: could see like just a time of I don't know, 1114 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: meditation to think about am I am I truly ready 1115 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: to commit the rest of my life to this person 1116 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: and like really take it seriously. And like I one 1117 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: of my I have a friend that took a break. 1118 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 1: He was dating this his current girlfriend for a couple 1119 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: of years and before they like they really were like 1120 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: getting serious and basically planning their life together. It's like, hey, 1121 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: like I need to take a break to like make 1122 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: sure that this is the right thing, and then I'm 1123 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: ready to commit. And he did, and now they're very 1124 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: happily in a relationship and like planning kids and planning 1125 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: marriage and say, like I do, I do see that 1126 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: as potentially helpful to a very very long term marriage. 1127 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: But I could also see sometimes as a red flag. 1128 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: I would love to know what you guys think. 1129 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 2: In the chap, but I don't know what you think, John, 1130 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 2: I've seen I have a story of the exact opposite, 1131 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 2: which was a little bit more extreme, and this man 1132 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: he was a wild boy, but he planned to get 1133 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 2: married to this person and basically they had a year 1134 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: of just going bananas and then you just supposed to 1135 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: come together at the end of the year, like. 1136 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: Just like hooking up with a bunch of random people. 1137 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 3: I think, just kind of like can do you can 1138 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 3: do what you want? Right? 1139 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: Was the garden and it imploded the relationship? 1140 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, definitely, dude. 1141 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd imagine it doesn't always work. 1142 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 3: Yes, it doesn't always work. 1143 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: But did it work in this scenario We're. 1144 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: About to find out. So she said that she wanted 1145 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 2: to live alone for a month to make sure that 1146 00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: she wanted to marry me. 1147 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: I was completely heartbroken. 1148 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 3: I asked her if she wanted to pursue someone else. 1149 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: She told me that that was not the case. Okay, okay, 1150 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 2: that's good, and I better not do anything stupid either. 1151 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 2: She loves me with all of her heart, but she 1152 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 2: says she wants to stay away from me to make 1153 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: sure that she's marrying me for love and not because 1154 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: she is used to being with me. 1155 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 3: I did not understand that at all. 1156 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a good It's like, I want to 1157 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: marry you not because I'm dependent on you, but because 1158 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: I love you. 1159 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, the reasoning is is good, I would say. 1160 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1161 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 3: I told her that if she was not sure after 1162 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 3: four years, if she wants to marry me, then maybe 1163 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 3: we should just break up. 1164 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: Joanna says lies. Joanna doesn't believe it. 1165 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 3: Doesn't believe it. Yeah, doesn't believe it. Real quick. 1166 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 2: This is a quick tinfoil conspiracy, Very quick, very quick. 1167 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 2: Everyone in the comments, do they break up or stay together? 1168 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 2: Do they break up or stay together? Riley, get your 1169 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 2: get your face on the Okay, do you have conspiracymments. 1170 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 2: The conspiracy is the question do they break up or 1171 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,479 Speaker 2: stay together? 1172 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Mindy is the wild card. 1173 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: So I feel like they might break up because of 1174 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: some ship Mindy says m. 1175 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 3: Briley Producer Riley Big Protein. 1176 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 5: I think that they they I think they break up 1177 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 5: for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm with Sam on this one. 1178 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: What do you think, John, Let's see that I already 1179 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,479 Speaker 1: read a lot of people are saying break up. Let's 1180 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, break up, break up. Nicole says stay together, 1181 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: La and says break up. Let's see who's right? 1182 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 3: All right, let's take off that, go back to reality. 1183 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 3: Back to reality. 1184 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: Are we ready? We had a big fight and broke 1185 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: up a few days after this. Seriously done? Dune Dune 1186 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 2: they broke up already. They broke up already. 1187 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: I wonder what the reasons were for breaking up. 1188 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 3: That's a good question. Maybe what they just said. But 1189 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 3: also there is more. 1190 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 2: As our lease was ending, we decided to part ways 1191 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 2: in December. She got a new apartment and our and 1192 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 2: I kept our old apartment and just took her name 1193 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 2: off the lease. After the breakup, I was feeling very 1194 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 2: lonely as I was not used to being in the 1195 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 2: apartment alone. 1196 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: Mindy, big old boom coming through, Yeah, girl. 1197 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 2: I didn't want to keep on being sad, and hence 1198 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 2: invited a bunch of friends for a New Year's. 1199 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: Party, and Mindy was one of the friends. 1200 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 3: I also invited Mindy, Bro, they're hooking up? 1201 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: Put I see you in the chat if you think 1202 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna hook up. 1203 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 2: We had a good time and my friends were doing 1204 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: their best to cheer me up. Mindy also mingled with 1205 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 2: my friends and it was all good. Mindy decided to 1206 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 2: stay back and help me clean up, and we hooked 1207 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: up that night. 1208 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: Bro, that's a classic move. Ye let me help and 1209 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: staying cleaned out? Oh oh, let me just bend over 1210 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: and just right, you're laughing too hard. At that so 1211 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: many oh look at that boom? Oh yeah, can you 1212 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: get down a little, a little further. It has never 1213 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: happened in this house. 1214 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait a second, wait wait wait? How 1215 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 5: late were you up New Year's Eve? 1216 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 4: Me? 1217 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah you oh yeah, that's true. 1218 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 5: New Year's Day. You were sleeping the whole day because 1219 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 5: you were. 1220 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: Like I was late. I was up very late. I 1221 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: was up until like five six am. 1222 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 3: What were you doing? 1223 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: I was watching Big Lebowski. There's nothing to see here. 1224 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 2: Guys watching move Okay, that's okay, that's okay, okay, So 1225 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 2: back to the story. 1226 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 3: Should we do finding the story and where we left off? 1227 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: Boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo booo? 1228 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: What they don't do? Do do? 1229 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 4: Do? 1230 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: Do? Do? 1231 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 1232 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, no, it's perfect. I felt guilty, but Mindy did 1233 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 2: cheer me up. You don't say, dude, I am don't say. 1234 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 2: Since then, we have hung out almost daily at my place. 1235 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 2: I am still sad about Julie, but I won't lie 1236 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 2: that being with Mindy does make me feel happy. 1237 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 3: She is sweet and caring. 1238 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 4: Bro. 1239 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: Mindy has been planting the seeds this whole time. This 1240 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: is all part of her master plan. 1241 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 3: Should Ope take the rebound right now? Yes? 1242 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 5: Or no? 1243 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 3: In the comments? 1244 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: And what do you mean taking the rebound? 1245 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: Should he? Should? 1246 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: He like like this is nah? I don't think so. 1247 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: I think it's way too I mean, but art isn't. 1248 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: Mindy and Julie they're friends. 1249 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 3: They're co workers and friends. 1250 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 2: I guess that's not a friend thing. They were friends, 1251 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 2: but not anymore. 1252 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, don't date your ex's friends. 1253 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially so soon, like so soon, so soon, it's crazy. 1254 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Last Sunday, we woke up and someone was banging at 1255 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 2: the door and it was me and Mindy on the door. 1256 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 3: I went to open it and it was Julie. 1257 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Was Mindy there when he opened it? 1258 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 3: No, they're laying in bed together. And Julie came and 1259 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 3: knocked on the door. 1260 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but she she Julie hasn't seen Mindy yet. 1261 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Not not yet, not yet unless unless you got a studio, 1262 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: so we assume not yet. She looked furious and started 1263 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 2: yelling at me. She kept accusing me of cheating on her. 1264 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: I told her I most certainly did not cheat on her, 1265 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 2: and she was the one who broke up with me. 1266 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Mindy again was also at my apartment. Julie was just 1267 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: angry at the both of us. She started calling Mindy 1268 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 2: a manipulative Oh so she's been there, she sees her there. 1269 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 2: My goodness, this is that. She started calling Mindy a 1270 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: manipulative b and told me that Mindy was the one 1271 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 2: who suggested to her that we should take some time 1272 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 2: away for me to understand. 1273 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Her both sides. Mindy is playing both sides. She just wanted, oh, 1274 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: pe oh, Pi is a snack dude, and everyone wants 1275 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: to bite. Every one's a little munch. 1276 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 3: Is Mindy a snake? Snake? 1277 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 1: And the chat? If you think Mindy a snake, that's right, 1278 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: a little slither pright, little slithery slitherer. 1279 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 2: I calmed her down and asked her to explain herself. 1280 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 2: She told me that ever since our marriage talk, she 1281 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 2: told Mindy about it, and Mindy kept on asking Julie 1282 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 2: if she was sure about marrying me. Mindy suggested that 1283 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: she take mandy suggestion that she takes some time to 1284 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 2: herself to understand her true feelings. 1285 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Oh, this is the most manipulative ship that I have 1286 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: ever heard. 1287 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 2: This is insane. 1288 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: People. They do sad, They absolutely do does anyone know 1289 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: of Mindy in their life and like, please write a story. Well, 1290 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe we can read a couple from you guys after 1291 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 1: this story. In the chat, I'm seeing a lot of 1292 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the snake was in the grass now it's just right 1293 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk. And y'all, nobody needs a step on 1294 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: that ship. 1295 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 2: I will understand and let me run it back a 1296 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: little bit. Mindy suggested that she take some time to 1297 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 2: herself to understand he drew feelings, and that I would 1298 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 2: understand and give her the space. When I said no, 1299 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: Mindy convinced her that I was so controlling that I 1300 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 2: could not even give her one month to herself and 1301 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 2: convinced her to break up with Mick. Wow, yep, yep. 1302 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 2: Mindy told me that she did not say any such 1303 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: things and these were all Julie's ideas and she was 1304 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 2: just there during these conversations. 1305 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: This is totally a Jesse two point zero Jesse from 1306 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the first story. Yeah, is the Jesse here, Mindy is 1307 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 1: a Jesse. 1308 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. She did tell Julie that she was about to 1309 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 2: take some of the things so that I could get 1310 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 2: a chance to make things right with her over the 1311 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 2: last few months. That made Julie more angry, and she 1312 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 2: started accusing me of emotionally cheating on her. Julie told 1313 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 2: me that the last few weeks have made her realize 1314 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 2: that we were meant to be together, but she now 1315 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 2: cannot believe I would move on from a four year 1316 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 2: relationship in one week. 1317 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Ah. That is brutal. But you guys did break up. 1318 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 1: She can't be mad. 1319 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: They did break up. 1320 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: You did break up. I don't think the relationship contract. 1321 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 1: The relationship contract ends when you break up. 1322 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 2: I mean, imagine you have a four or even let's 1323 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 2: say a three year relationship and then you do a 1324 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 2: rebound like imagine again, even a three year relationship and 1325 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 2: you do that. 1326 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Just imagine that everybody like a two year relationship. 1327 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Oh oh. On one hand, I want to believe Julie, 1328 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 2: but she broke up with me for no fault of 1329 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 2: my own Mindy was there for me when I was down, 1330 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 2: But now I also doubt her. 1331 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: Dude, doubt her so much. Get away. 1332 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: She suddenly started talking to me out of the blue, 1333 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 2: as we were never really that close before, and immediately 1334 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: became my support after the breakup. Although Julie was her 1335 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 2: close friend, am I the a hole? To emotionally cheat 1336 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 2: on Julie. Should I have told her about Mindy's texts? 1337 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Should I have not moved on from her so quickly? 1338 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Even though Julie broke up with me, I was just 1339 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 2: hurting and Mindy was right there to support me. I 1340 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 2: need advice from someone with a clear mind on knowing 1341 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: what the f is going on, And ladies and gentlemen 1342 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 2: watching right now, we have relevant comments, we have updates, 1343 01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 2: we have comments from you right now. 1344 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 3: We have to stop and break this down. 1345 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh well, I'm a little confused on 1346 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: the emotional cheating side. 1347 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 3: I think because so Mindy. 1348 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 2: So before the the actual official breakup, Mindy was getting 1349 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 2: closer with uh Op. 1350 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: But it sounds like it was in the context of 1351 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,960 Speaker 1: helping Ope through the relationship with Julie. 1352 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Yes, And so basically that I think is was it 1353 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 2: emotional cheating that Op kind of accepted the help and 1354 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 2: became more quote unquote emotionally close with Mindy, Not that 1355 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,600 Speaker 2: he was like, I don't, I don't. 1356 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: I would love to know what y'all think if you 1357 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 1: think it's emotional cheating or not, but I don't. I wouldn't. 1358 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's emotional cheating. 1359 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: I definitely think it is a gray area, and it 1360 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 2: truly depends on what are these conversations and interactions. 1361 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: Like, because but like what it seems like it was 1362 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: is like, hey, like things are hard with Julie. And 1363 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: then like what it seemed like the initial conver stations 1364 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: where it's like Mindy's giving just terrible advice, but like 1365 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: op is talking to Mindy to try to work on 1366 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: things with Julie. Yeah, you know, because like Mindy's like, 1367 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 1: she's gonna break up with you and and and OPI 1368 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: is like, oh shit, I need to step up my game. 1369 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: I need to make sure that I'm like there for 1370 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: her even more. And so he's not taking what Mindy 1371 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: saying to distance himself from Julie. He's taking what Mindy 1372 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: saying to make sure he's close. And so for that reason, 1373 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't really think he is going into it with 1374 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: the idea of like, uh, or even even like subconsciously 1375 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: emotionally cheating. I that doesn't seem like what's happening here. 1376 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 2: It it did have the purist of intentions, and I 1377 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 2: can't I mean to I think it was after that 1378 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: it really ramped up in Mindy which probably was completely 1379 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 2: Mindy's intention. Yeah, was like all all, all, just get 1380 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 2: in there as like a supportive friend and then I'll 1381 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 2: crank it up. 1382 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, like Mindy is a terrible person. Mindy, Mindy 1383 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: has been planning this from the the I think there's 1384 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Op is like a little naive, a little stupid. But uh, 1385 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: the second question is Mindy or is hooking up with 1386 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Mindy after Julie breaks up with Op a not cash 1387 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: money move, not. 1388 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: A great move. 1389 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 2: But I mean Op is like very heartbroken. I will, 1390 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 2: I will give him some like leniency, but like not 1391 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 2: not the best. 1392 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I think what's us is it's not I don't think 1393 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: it's necessarily bad that he hooked up with someone after 1394 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: uh breaking up, Like people do that all the time. 1395 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I think what's bad is he hooked up with a 1396 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: close friend. Yeah, I think that's a little of us. Yes, 1397 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: that's like I don't I don't think that's a good 1398 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Like I think you could hook up with someone who 1399 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: was in like the general friend group, but if it's 1400 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: a close friend and they've hung out one on one, 1401 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good movie. 1402 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just generally, yeah, it's it's given given giving 1403 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 2: yourself some time is. 1404 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Good, but but I would wait. Should we read some 1405 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: of the comments before we dive into the to the update? 1406 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Let's do it say again, Katie Lynn, Katie Lynn, I 1407 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's emotional cheating. But this couldn't have happened 1408 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: if they spoke, If they couldn't have happened if they 1409 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: spoke to themselves, or if OPI asked Mindy said X 1410 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: y Z is this true. He also didn't seem to 1411 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 1: have thought about the feelings for Mindy until after Julie 1412 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: and him broke up. Seemed seemed that he knew he 1413 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 1: it was convenient and that Mindy cared about him, while 1414 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: OPI was happy to take the opportunity that Mindy created 1415 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: by being too faced. Yeah, I agree with some of that. 1416 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I think I agree with some of that. And then 1417 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,759 Speaker 1: A says if OPI and Julie were secure in the relationship, 1418 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 1: none of that would have happened. They both kept Mindy's 1419 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 1: talks to themselves instead of confronting the issue. That's kind 1420 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: of what the other person was saying. Like, I agree 1421 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: with that. If they just had communicated with about well 1422 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: what Mindy was saying, it would have been fine, but 1423 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: I think they were too scared to communicate. 1424 01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do not. 1425 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is this is a tricky one, y'all. 1426 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 3: This is a tricky one. 1427 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: But John, do you have an update for me? 1428 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 3: We have should? We should? We have some relevant comments? Update? Good, 1429 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 3: let's do the relevant comments. 1430 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 2: So h b our Socks two four four five says, 1431 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 2: sounds like you and Julie need to talk privately and 1432 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 2: discuss what Mindy said to each of you. That is 1433 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 2: a great idea. Get get you know, get the story straight. 1434 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 2: Let's interrogate this bad boy. As others have said, this 1435 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 2: sounds all too convenient. Mindy was in both of your ears, 1436 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 2: telling you both what she wanted you to hear to 1437 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 2: orchestrate this whole thing. Please reach out to Julie and 1438 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 2: ask her to talk to you alone. Even if both 1439 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: of you don't get back together. I'm sure you both 1440 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 2: care for each other deeply, and she would want you 1441 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 2: to be with someone who cares about you and won't 1442 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 2: manipulate you. 1443 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mindy is a manipulator. You should not stay with 1444 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: Mindy for sure. 1445 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 2: Her manipulation of you is more direct. But Julie is 1446 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 2: the victim as well. OPI you are right, if Julie. 1447 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 2: If Julie is right, I just threw a four your 1448 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 2: relationship under the bus in just two weeks. Artistic Asparagus 1449 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 2: one seventy five says, so, what's the reason for you 1450 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 2: sleeping with your ex's good friend weeks after the breakup. 1451 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,480 Speaker 2: It's understandable you wanted to move on, but why her specifically? 1452 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 2: Opie says, I wasn't playing it on it convenient, convenient, 1453 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 2: but she just stayed back after the party and things happened. 1454 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1455 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,560 Speaker 2: Did I feel guilty after that? Absolutely? 1456 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 3: Not just kidding. Yes, I did feel guilty. 1457 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 2: I felt discarded and unwanted after a four year relationship 1458 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 2: and was just not thinking straight. So you know there's 1459 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 2: some more context, Yeah, I think, I think again. You know, 1460 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 2: Mindy was manipulating and was very intentional with all this 1461 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 2: stuff and catching op at the worst possible moments. 1462 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: Literally creating the worst possible creating it. I think, massive 1463 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: red flags all ends, And Lily says, why do you 1464 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: not ship merch Island? We actually just updated our merch 1465 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 1: link so we should be able to ship everywhere. So 1466 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: check that again. 1467 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 3: Very nice, it's in the description right now. 1468 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to support the show. Check out 1469 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 1: the merch. We're wearing it right now. 1470 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: Red flag versus green flag. 1471 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Pick what you want. 1472 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's little hats too, that's right. But is there 1473 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: an update? 1474 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 3: Those are the relevant comments, and now we have the 1475 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,799 Speaker 3: big Juicy update. 1476 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 2: Juicy I twenty eight male post of last week regarding 1477 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 2: my girlfriend Julie twenty nine female, accusing your friend Mindy 1478 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 2: of sabotaging the relationship. Julie broke up with me in 1479 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 2: December after a four year relationship, and Mindy reached out 1480 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 2: to me when I was feeling down. However, when Julie 1481 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 2: realized when Mindy was talking to me, she confronted both 1482 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 2: of us on Saturday Sunday morning and told me that 1483 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 2: Mindy manipulated her into breaking. 1484 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Up with me. 1485 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,719 Speaker 2: The worst part, I wasn't thinking straight after the breakup. 1486 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 2: It ended up hooking up with Mindy at a New 1487 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 2: Year's Eve party. After the incident, I asked Mindy that 1488 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 2: I needed some time and did not want to meet her. 1489 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 2: Since the following post on Reddit had three thousand people, 1490 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 2: call me an idiot. 1491 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: And now you have more in the chat. You're in 1492 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: an indiot. Please do not see. 1493 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 3: Middy indeed indeed. 1494 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 2: So I messaged Julie every day since then to try 1495 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 2: to talk to her. She did not reply to my messages. 1496 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,639 Speaker 2: I was not sure if she had blocked me. Mindy 1497 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 2: was constantly trying to message me, asking if we could 1498 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 2: meet up and talk about it. 1499 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: I wrote you for a year. I'm just quoting the notebook. 1500 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:19,679 Speaker 1: We watched it recently. 1501 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 2: On Wednesday, one day after posting, I decided to message Mindy. 1502 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 2: I told her to tell me everything she said to 1503 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 2: Julie truthfully. I told her I would go no contact 1504 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 2: if I found out that she had been lying, which 1505 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Mindy knows. It's like, hey, if if she was actually lying, 1506 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 2: they would share what each other said and they would 1507 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: figure it out. OPI and Julie would be able to 1508 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 2: figure it out. 1509 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 1: But Julie isn't talking to op Mindy. 1510 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 3: We don't know if that. Maybe she does. This is 1511 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,320 Speaker 3: a crazy game of chicken right. 1512 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Now, Why dude, like, go no contact now? You have 1513 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: enough information this moment to go no contact, Like, why 1514 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 1: would you have a person like this in your life? 1515 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: She is manipulative, she is super toxic and just like 1516 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 1: wants drama. 1517 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 3: OPI doesn't know if he believes it yet or not. 1518 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 3: That's why. That's why. 1519 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I would believe it. 1520 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: Oh he'd but but dude, you know, you know she 1521 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 1: was talking in your ear. 1522 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 3: But he's still like, was she telling the truth the 1523 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 3: whole time? Where she wasn't? 1524 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,759 Speaker 2: She was talking to both of them, but wasn't planting 1525 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,679 Speaker 2: the stuff for Julie, that's the question. 1526 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 1: But she was regardless. She was revealing things that Julie 1527 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 1: probably want kept secret to Opie exactly. And that's a 1528 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 1: red flag because if you're revealing other people's secrets, you're 1529 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: probably revealing the secrets that you have between you and 1530 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 1: that person. 1531 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 3: You and me are on the same page. But Opie's 1532 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 3: getting that Mindy pom poom right now. 1533 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: That's not. 1534 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 3: Exactly. 1535 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 2: So Mindy wanted to meet me in person or talk 1536 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,799 Speaker 2: to me on the phone, but I wanted everything in writing. 1537 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 3: That's that's a good move act. 1538 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he like, she couldn't like reprogram his head 1539 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: on the back end and make it think, oh I 1540 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't say that, Yeah, great, great receipts. Receipts. 1541 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 2: Yep. She messaged me that Julia always said good things 1542 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 2: about me all of these years when Julie told her 1543 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,639 Speaker 2: about us talking and getting married in twenty twenty four. 1544 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 2: She was happy for the both of us. However, wise however, 1545 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Julie started telling her that she had cold feet and 1546 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 2: was not sure if we wanted to marry me because 1547 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 2: of issues she observed about her parents' marriage very convenient. 1548 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 2: One day, Julie told me that she wanted to take 1549 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 2: a break from me. She was not too sure about 1550 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 2: her feelings for me. 1551 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 3: That that was this time. 1552 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 2: That was the time that Mindy told me about Julie's behavior, 1553 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 2: as she felt bad for me as we were already 1554 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 2: telling our families about the engagement plans. After our fight, 1555 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,719 Speaker 2: she said that she said that Julie was extremely upset 1556 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 2: and told Mindy that she would never marry me. 1557 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 3: She's literally doing it again. She's literally doing it again. 1558 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: Dude, I think this is all little sauce sis. Why 1559 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 1: are you trusting her? This is silly. 1560 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 2: She said that the only reason Julie came back was 1561 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 2: when she heard that I was moving on, as she 1562 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 2: is jealous of us, bro. She she also said that 1563 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,600 Speaker 2: I was a good guy, and hopefully I see that 1564 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 2: what we have. 1565 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 3: Is something special. 1566 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 2: What do we think? 1567 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 3: What do we think, Chap, what do we think? 1568 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm pissed. Yeah, I'm pissed. Yeah, uh brizzle Manizzle says, supersize, 1569 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: super sauce. Let's see. Car says I don't know if 1570 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 1: a rebound is moving on. But go Off says burning 1571 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: rows a bunch of red flags? A merit b s Yeah, 1572 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: I agree, Rose Osbyn says red flag. Mindy Leavester says 1573 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: heck no, Kimberly fine, people like Mindy will gost both 1574 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 1: pretend nothing happened and find a whole new friend group 1575 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 1: before they face any real life consequences for their actions. Yeah, 1576 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: totally agree. Mindy is not Mindy's not even person. 1577 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 3: No, No, I think she's a total snake. 1578 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 2: And Mike mind bogglingly using this opportunity to do more 1579 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 2: lies to wedge them in between like that, But do 1580 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 2: we know? 1581 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like, how is Opie don't I don't even 1582 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 1: know why he's listening, but like, how is OPI supposed 1583 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: to suss it out because he's going to talk to 1584 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Julie and see if the story's line up. 1585 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 3: He's trying to Julie isn't responding. 1586 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,799 Speaker 1: But can you please tell me there's a big fat, juicy, 1587 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 1: thick update where Julie responds and we could put Mindy 1588 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: to rest and cast her out into the open ocean, 1589 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: hoping she trowns it gets fed on by live sharks. 1590 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,600 Speaker 3: There's definitely more so. 1591 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,719 Speaker 2: After Mindy said that you know we have something special, 1592 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,680 Speaker 2: Opie responds, I just said okay, and I told her 1593 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 2: that I needed time. 1594 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,600 Speaker 3: I kept on messaging Julie once a day to at 1595 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 3: least talk to her once. It was heartbreaking to think 1596 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,479 Speaker 3: that she might have blocked me and may never talk 1597 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 3: to me again. 1598 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 1: Are your text green well? 1599 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 2: On Friday afternoon, Julie finally replied, okay, that's good. She 1600 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 2: said she wanted to meet me and told me okay, 1601 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 2: and told me that she would come to our apartment 1602 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: on Saturday afternoon. 1603 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this is something. This is movement. 1604 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 3: I cleaned up the place. Hey, buddy, cleaning got you 1605 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 3: in this mess in the first once. 1606 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 1: Be careful and helped me. 1607 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 2: She stayed after this, and I was just feeling deep 1608 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 2: guilt from the inside before facing her. When she came in, 1609 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: she looked like a shell of herself and completely broken. 1610 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 2: I sat on her sofa, but she chose to sit away. 1611 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 2: From me. We asked how each other were, but it 1612 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 2: was clear that neither of us were doing well. I 1613 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 2: started apologizing, but she stopped me. She asked to let 1614 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 2: her finish until not interrupt her. She had brought her 1615 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 2: a little notebook and had written down things that she 1616 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 2: had wanted to say to me. She told me that 1617 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 2: she truly loved me, but after we discussed getting married, 1618 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 2: she started feeling scared of the next big step. She 1619 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 2: thought it was normal, yeah iRED cold feet. She thought 1620 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 2: those feelings were normal and would go away, so she 1621 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 2: decided not to discuss her concerns with me. It kept 1622 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 2: on eating at her from the inside, and she made 1623 01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,719 Speaker 2: a mistake to talk to Mindy about them. She said 1624 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 2: that she wanted to. She said that she wanted to 1625 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,560 Speaker 2: say everything to me now, so I don't get secondhand 1626 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,479 Speaker 2: information about why she was distant and broke up with me. 1627 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 3: She said that her parents. 1628 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Had a very rocky marriage, though they were together until 1629 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,759 Speaker 2: her mom passed away in twenty twenty one during the pandemic. 1630 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 2: Her parents argued constantly, and she always thought her mom 1631 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 2: did not love her dad. However, her mom was extremely 1632 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 2: dependent on him for everything, and her dad knew it 1633 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,160 Speaker 2: and hence he did not treat her well. She never 1634 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,639 Speaker 2: wanted to be like her mom after seeing their marriage. However, 1635 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 2: as we lived together, she started seeing some of those 1636 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 2: issues in our relationship. For example, when we met, Julie 1637 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 2: had a lot of credit card debt and was bad 1638 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,679 Speaker 2: at managing her money. I helped her with that, even 1639 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 2: though we have separate finances. I ended up managing all 1640 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 2: of her finances, investments, etc. At her request, to the 1641 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,559 Speaker 2: point that she did not know or understand exactly where 1642 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 2: her money was. 1643 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:39,719 Speaker 3: Real quick, is that a red flag? 1644 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Is that Julie doesn't know where her money because is 1645 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:44,600 Speaker 1: managing all it. 1646 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 3: OP came in at her request. 1647 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 2: OP came to help her manage her finances, but managed 1648 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 2: to finances to a point where Julie did not know 1649 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 2: what was going on. 1650 01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Hmmm, is that a red flag? I mean, it's definitely 1651 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: not like you should have an understanding of your finances. 1652 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: But like we were, this is not a good example, 1653 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,720 Speaker 1: but we were talking about a relationship earlier where you 1654 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: had the husband managing all the finances and it was 1655 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 1: like a way of controlling the wife. I don't think 1656 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 1: this is what is happening here Necessarily but I think 1657 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 1: you should even you should you should know a little bit, 1658 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 1: even if even if like, yeah, you should know a 1659 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: little bit, you should know a little bit. 1660 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's it's possible. And I think 1661 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 2: this is what they're kind of leading up to. Uh 1662 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 2: that maybe Julie like doesn't you know, like budgeting and stuff, 1663 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 2: and so she kind of ignored it like she did 1664 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 2: in the first place. 1665 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Maybe she's like, we're gonna be married, so and he's 1666 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna take care of the find and finances when that happened. 1667 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 1: So maybe that's fine. I don't know. I don't know. 1668 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Is that a red flag? Let's let us know in 1669 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: the comments. 1670 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Keep telling us ldies and gentlemen. 1671 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:54,639 Speaker 1: Baby hm. 1672 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 2: She also said that we always enjoy making nice meals 1673 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 2: for dinner every day. However, when I work late, she 1674 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 2: completely loses any motivation to cook and ends up eating 1675 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 2: cheese and crackers like a toddler for dinner. Okay. She 1676 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 2: also complained that in the last four years of our relationship, 1677 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 2: I have never said no to her for buying anything. 1678 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 2: She feels that I coddle her and she just got 1679 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 2: comfortable with all of the luxuries that I can provide 1680 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 2: for her, it's your fault that I'm so dependent. Stop 1681 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 2: buying things from me, Stop being so nice. Be mean. 1682 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: She talked about this with Mindy, and while Mindy initially 1683 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,000 Speaker 2: just was just listening to her, she told her around 1684 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 2: September that one of her cousins also have the same issue. 1685 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 2: She decided to stay away from her fiance for a month, 1686 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 2: and within a week she realized how much she missed 1687 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 2: him and never had doubts again. When Julie asked for 1688 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 2: a break, all she wanted to do was live with 1689 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 2: her best friend for a few weeks to see if 1690 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 2: she was too co dependent on me. 1691 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh, so she realizes, She's realized, like, oh, I am 1692 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,559 Speaker 1: so ridiculously dependent on this person. Let me see, let 1693 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: me let me go. 1694 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Retain or regain reclaim. There we go. Thank you my 1695 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 2: self sufficiency and my independence. So I'm not coming in 1696 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 2: as like, Okay, I'm totally dependent on you. I'm a 1697 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 2: whole person. You're a whole person, and we're coming together. 1698 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 1: YEA. Now, I don't even know if a month is 1699 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: enough time to actually like understand that about yourself. 1700 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good question, But I'll I guess 1701 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 2: I could see like if he's helping with dinners and 1702 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 2: stuff like that, Like thirty days of her eating cheese 1703 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 2: and crackers every dinner. 1704 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,080 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, some some of the side, I guess, 1705 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 3: but didn't. 1706 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 1: She just proved like she like hasn't been taking care 1707 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: of herself in the time that they have been apart, right, Like, 1708 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: is she actually is she actually doing anything to We 1709 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: don't know? All right, well, I don't know. I want 1710 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 1: to see out in folts, let's keep going. 1711 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 3: She knew I was planning to propose during our Christmas 1712 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,719 Speaker 3: trip to my parents' house, okay, and when I told 1713 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 3: her that she could not take a break, she just 1714 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 3: freaked out and broke up with me, as she did 1715 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,560 Speaker 3: not want to be engaged without knowing for sure that 1716 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 3: we won't end up like her parents. 1717 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,599 Speaker 1: She doesn't want to be controlled. 1718 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, she had that fear of ending up like her parents. 1719 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:16,680 Speaker 2: Basically we all do. After this, she asked me when 1720 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I started meeting Mindy and how many times we met? 1721 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 2: I opened my chat messages with Mindy. That's smart and 1722 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,720 Speaker 2: handed her the phone. Complete transparency. 1723 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 1: That's great. Yes, transparency is the best policy with love 1724 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 1: absolutely romantic partners. 1725 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 2: I told her, I met Mindy only once in September, 1726 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,559 Speaker 2: where she told me that Julie wanted to break up 1727 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 2: with me because she was not happy with our relationship. 1728 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 2: I already had noticed Julie's dishavior, and when I asked her, 1729 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 2: the only answer I got was, I am fine, we 1730 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 2: are fine. Gentlemen, There's one thing I've learned. I am fine, 1731 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 2: we are fine, We are fine. Doesn't all with me. Man. 1732 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,640 Speaker 3: Due to my insecurities. I try to hold on to 1733 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 3: Julie and started coddling her more. 1734 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 1: Ah, So when when Mindy was all like, hey, she's 1735 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna break up with you, his response was to do 1736 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,639 Speaker 1: the very thing that Julie did not want. His response 1737 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, if she's gonna break up with me, 1738 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I need to make sure I'm there for her more. 1739 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing all the nice things. But that's literally like 1740 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 1: Julie wanted what she wanted. Yeah, Julie wanted to be 1741 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 1: more independent, and so he's basically like, well, not like 1742 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,720 Speaker 1: not swarming her, but not like like suffocating her in 1743 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 1: some ways. 1744 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, I gotta say, Mindy at that point in this 1745 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 2: in the storyline must have been like. 1746 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: Dude, Mindy's playing some four d relationship chess. Like, all right, 1747 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Mindy absolute dick wad of. 1748 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,479 Speaker 3: Course, but a brilliant one bro, a brilliant dick. 1749 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 1: Great chess player. Man, Mindy needs to lead people into 1750 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 1: battle and like just play some so games because it's 1751 01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 1: giving Voldemort. She's got all the power she was in 1752 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 1: like the ancient lores of kings and queens. She would 1753 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,600 Speaker 1: have her own fiefdom for sure, she could win the 1754 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Oh yeah, maybe, dude, she's she's going 1755 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:15,479 Speaker 1: for the star cast. 1756 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:16,240 Speaker 2: That's right. See. 1757 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,520 Speaker 3: I put in that reference with very little tobaccoize. 1758 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I thought, you you've seen the first season, the first season. Yeah, 1759 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:22,840 Speaker 1: that's enough, Stark. 1760 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. 1761 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 1: That's a big people who's that put f's in the 1762 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: chat bro for John not knowing his Game of Throne knowledge. 1763 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't watch things. 1764 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 4: We know that. 1765 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,639 Speaker 2: So, due to my insecurities, I tried to hold onto 1766 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 2: Julie and began coddling her, planning more dates, trying to 1767 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 2: spend more time at home with her, et cetera, et cetera. 1768 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,719 Speaker 2: When Julie asked me for a break and to stay 1769 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 2: away from me for a few weeks, I thought that 1770 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,600 Speaker 2: this was the final step before the breakup, which I 1771 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 2: mean that I can't. It can mean that sometimes, and 1772 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 2: I broke down. I fought with her, which led to 1773 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,839 Speaker 2: our breakup and her moving out. At this point, Julie's 1774 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,520 Speaker 2: voice started cracking up. She asked me when Mindy contacted 1775 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 2: you after the breakup. I pointed her to the messages. 1776 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Mindy initially just started sending me memes to cheer me up, 1777 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 2: and I just used to respond with a thanks or 1778 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 2: a thumbs up. 1779 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:20,120 Speaker 1: Bro, Memes are the first step. First step are That's 1780 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 1: how people work their way into your life. If they 1781 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 1: send you pictures of seals and they send you memes, 1782 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's and you're blinking. However, 1783 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the messages. 1784 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 2: Started getting more and more frequent, and she offered to 1785 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,559 Speaker 2: talk to me in case I needed help. 1786 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 3: The smoking gun Mindy's under fire baby. 1787 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,960 Speaker 2: She asked me what I was doing for Christmas and 1788 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 2: New Year's and when I told her I was inviting 1789 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 2: a few friends over, she told me that she didn't 1790 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 2: have any plans for New Years, and so I invited Mindy. 1791 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: Dude, she's playing her cards so well. 1792 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 2: Julie stopped me there. She told me that she did 1793 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,479 Speaker 2: not need to hear the details. After that, she told 1794 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,920 Speaker 2: me that when she moved out of our house after 1795 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 2: our fight, she thought that she was just not ready to. 1796 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 1: Get married to me. 1797 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 3: She stayed with her friend for two weeks and then 1798 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 3: got her own new apartment in January. She told me 1799 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 3: that she was miserable and missed me badly. It became 1800 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 3: more and more accurate when she moved into the apartment 1801 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 3: alone and could not stay there even one night. 1802 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 2: Her best friend is currently with her. Staying there in 1803 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,479 Speaker 2: that new apartment, she realized she could not live without 1804 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 2: me within a week of living and moving in there. 1805 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 2: When she asked one of our mutual friends on Saturday 1806 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 2: about how I was doing, she told her about the 1807 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 2: party and told her that Mindy was there. 1808 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 1: Bro, why does everyone freaking stern up this drama? 1809 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 2: Right? Come on? 1810 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess or Julie did. 1811 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1812 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:49,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 1813 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 2: Well, actually, uh, I don't think she asked about Mindy. 1814 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: The person just offered that Mindy was there. 1815 01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1816 01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1817 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,719 Speaker 2: It did not make sense to her why Mindy would 1818 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 2: be at the party. She concluded that Mindy and I 1819 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 2: were having an affair during our relationship. And that was 1820 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 2: the reason Mindy must have tried to break us apart 1821 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,920 Speaker 2: by constantly telling her that she should not that Julie 1822 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 2: should not get married if she had any doubts. When 1823 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,760 Speaker 2: she saw Mindy in our apartment on Sunday. 1824 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 3: She completely broke down. 1825 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course, yes, I mean even yeah, 1826 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 1: that's that is like the biggest betrayal too. 1827 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 2: However, when she learned that Mindy was also talking to 1828 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 2: me and telling me the opposite of things, she realized 1829 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,759 Speaker 2: how naive she was to throw everything away without properly 1830 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 2: talking to me first. 1831 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: Doubt the people, check with the people that like like 1832 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,559 Speaker 1: get I feel like you should give if you hear 1833 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 1: a rumor about someone or you have like a friend 1834 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: or someone who's like, I don't know, stern up drama, 1835 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,919 Speaker 1: give the opportunity for that person that is the subject 1836 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: of the drama and the subject of maybe the mistrust, 1837 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to defend themselves, especially if it's a long relationship, 1838 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 1: before you like completely cut them out just based off 1839 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 1: someone's word. You know, because there are manipulators and there 1840 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: are liars out there in the world. You gotta protect yourself, y'all. 1841 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 2: Gotta stay protected y'all, So this doesn't happen to you 1842 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 2: don't have Mindy's in your life. Oh goodness gracious. As 1843 01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 2: hurt as she is seeing me with Mindy, she also 1844 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 2: doesn't want to lose me. And I'm reading between the lines, 1845 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,799 Speaker 2: but like as a friend, as a person in her life. 1846 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 3: So not in a relationship. 1847 01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,719 Speaker 1: But I mean it's probably been It's probably a little 1848 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 1: bit too soon to have that kind of relationship. Yeah, 1849 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,920 Speaker 1: it takes a while for the flames to die and 1850 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 1: the friendship to solidify. 1851 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 3: The embOS to a rose. 1852 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. She kept on calling herself an idiot and apologizing 1853 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,559 Speaker 2: for not telling her concerns to me. Sooner. I sat 1854 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 2: next door and tried to hug her, but she moved away. 1855 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,679 Speaker 2: She asked if I would willing to still be together? 1856 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 1: Willing to still be together? Yep, So Julie, after going 1857 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,719 Speaker 1: through all of this, after being lied to by Mindy, 1858 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: after breaking up with Op, She's like, I want you 1859 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:23,679 Speaker 1: back after OPI hooked up with Mindy. I wonder if 1860 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, like, it's it's just gonna be a hard 1861 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 1: thing to get through, Like they're gonna have to learn 1862 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: to trust each other again. 1863 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 3: That is true. 1864 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 2: That is true. But you know what, OP said, what 1865 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 2: as a response, what do you say? 1866 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 3: And I told her I would give anything to get 1867 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:40,479 Speaker 3: her back. 1868 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Really really, that's great, that's great, right, I mean, I'm 1869 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 1: glad they're finally communicating, like so, uh Samantha. Someone said, 1870 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 1: they're almost thirty and they can't communicate. Yeah, burning rosaid, 1871 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 1: can't believe everyone here is almost thirty and they still 1872 01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate. At least they're at least 1873 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,080 Speaker 1: they're learning now. 1874 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,599 Speaker 2: They're breaking through now, and it seems like the power 1875 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:10,720 Speaker 2: of the relationship is still is still prevailing. Yeah, at 1876 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 2: the end of the day, right here, right, I mean, 1877 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:17,560 Speaker 2: my goodness, but but bo so she told me she 1878 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 2: was willing to forget everything that had happened, but she 1879 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,240 Speaker 2: had a few conditions. Her first condition was that I 1880 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,879 Speaker 2: cut contact with Mindy fair enough I blocked her everywhere 1881 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,120 Speaker 2: and never contacted her again, or that I block her 1882 01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,120 Speaker 2: everywhere and never contact her again. If I see her 1883 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 2: standing in front of me, I act as if she 1884 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 2: is invisible. 1885 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 3: I was okay with that. 1886 01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,640 Speaker 2: Secondly, she had already signed up for individual therapy and 1887 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 2: is on the wait list. She wants us to do 1888 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,760 Speaker 2: couples therapy, so that way we can talk about all 1889 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 2: the concerns we have and work through her. 1890 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: So smart, so smart. If you're really going to rebuild 1891 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the relationship, you need. 1892 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:51,040 Speaker 3: That one hundred percent. 1893 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,560 Speaker 2: We also decided to hold off on our engagement or 1894 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,360 Speaker 2: marriage until we can both get into couple's therapy. I 1895 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,920 Speaker 2: was also okay with that too, another great idea. Finally, 1896 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 2: she wanted me to forget the last month as a 1897 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 2: bad nightmare and never talk about it again. 1898 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,479 Speaker 1: I mean, this is that what therapy is for? To talk? 1899 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 3: I think. 1900 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, like it's it's it's there is a 1901 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,720 Speaker 2: little bit of some counterintuitive stuff going on. It's like, hey, 1902 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,479 Speaker 2: let's go to like breakdown to observe and work on all. 1903 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,759 Speaker 1: I see the communication almost breaking down before our eyes 1904 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,560 Speaker 1: of this paradoxical desires. 1905 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh and if I ever make a we were on 1906 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 2: a break joke, she would punch me in the face. 1907 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,879 Speaker 2: This was the first time we both smiled. 1908 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, at least it's going better. 1909 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,240 Speaker 3: I asked her what she was going to do about 1910 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,759 Speaker 3: mindy as they worked together, we cannot forget. 1911 01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's big, Yet you totally forgot about that. 1912 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,560 Speaker 2: She said that The biggest punishment was for Mindy to 1913 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,360 Speaker 2: know that she did not succeed in breaking up with us. 1914 01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,040 Speaker 1: Yo, that's yeah, okay, all right, all right, we're getting. 1915 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 2: St long like I could see Julie just walking back 1916 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:08,719 Speaker 2: some Mandy, how's the weekend. How's the weekend? You're doing 1917 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,640 Speaker 2: pretty sad. She wants Mindy to see how happy she 1918 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,800 Speaker 2: is with me, and she wants Mindy to be there 1919 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 2: when she flaunts that big old engagement ring in the 1920 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:24,599 Speaker 2: office and gets jealous when we get married. We hugged, 1921 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 2: We hugged, and I felt so relieved that I had 1922 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,160 Speaker 2: a chance to make things right for her. I asked 1923 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,799 Speaker 2: her to stay and she agreed. The rest of the evening. 1924 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 2: The rest of the evening was so nice. We ordered 1925 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 2: door Dash and watched reruns of Top Chef while cuddling 1926 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 2: on Oh that's. 1927 01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 1: Exactly what you want, So cute, that's what you love 1928 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 1: to hear, so cute. 1929 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 3: In the morning, we discussed moving back in together. 1930 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,759 Speaker 2: I want her to move back into our old apartment, 1931 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:53,519 Speaker 2: but she wants a fresh start and asked me if 1932 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 2: I was willing to move into her new apartment. Her 1933 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,640 Speaker 2: new apartment is tiny compared to our current one and 1934 01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 2: all also not in the best neighborhood, but we will 1935 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 2: decide to talk about it more and designed later. 1936 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, what do you got right for us? 1937 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,599 Speaker 5: She just signed a lease and she's like, I can't 1938 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 5: I've put a deposit down there. 1939 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 2: I got it has bad vibes. Let's move to the 1940 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:19,599 Speaker 2: worst part of her a cramp place in a terrible neighborhood. 1941 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 2: You need a fresh start, let's freaking go. I also 1942 01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,840 Speaker 2: will have to deal with the issue of having two 1943 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,760 Speaker 2: twelve month leases and how to get out of one 1944 01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 2: of them. 1945 01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Dude, this seems like a bad idea. Yeah, you don't 1946 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 1: need to sign a new lease just because there's like 1947 01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, mindy juices or just like sad tea. 1948 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,519 Speaker 2: Let's also also there's way more like happy memories of 1949 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 2: the relationship in the old apartment. 1950 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. If anything, the new apartment is tainted because she 1951 01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,520 Speaker 3: had to get that new apartment. 1952 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,479 Speaker 1: Before, I know, because of mindy. I don't know. What 1953 01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 1: do you guys think? Are you pro get new apartment 1954 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: or are you pro keep the old place? 1955 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:57,559 Speaker 3: A new apartment or old apartment? 1956 01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 1: Slurp up the MINDI juice good. 1957 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,360 Speaker 3: It is gracious, but. 1958 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,639 Speaker 2: Currently Julie went to her apartment after we got lunch 1959 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 2: to get some of her stuff for the week, and 1960 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 2: I am now writing this post. I just feel so 1961 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,840 Speaker 2: lucky that I did not lose Julie despite my terrible 1962 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,439 Speaker 2: actions during the last month. I just hope that we're 1963 01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,920 Speaker 2: able to work things out and get married soon. And 1964 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 2: this whole incident is just a small bump in our 1965 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:22,680 Speaker 2: perfect relationship. 1966 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:29,840 Speaker 1: Perfect relationship that's a little bit of a stretch perfect 1967 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 1: relations I don't know about that. 1968 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,599 Speaker 2: I also don't know how to address the issue where 1969 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 2: she feels coddled by my behavior and feels like I'm 1970 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 2: making her code dependent on me, which is a little 1971 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 2: tough because he's. 1972 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 1: Just, you know, kind of trying to help stop doing nice. 1973 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just my personality and I need to work 1974 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,360 Speaker 2: on that during my couple therapy. However, any tips from 1975 01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,559 Speaker 2: you guys are welcome on how to make her feel 1976 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,120 Speaker 2: less codependent. PS thanks to everyone who checked on my 1977 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,840 Speaker 2: health during the last few days via DMS and sent 1978 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 2: me messages for helpliness. Don't worry, I am a marathon runner. 1979 01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,320 Speaker 2: I am a marathon runner, and I don't give up 1980 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 2: that easy. And ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, 1981 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 2: we still have a few little quick relevant comments. 1982 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:16,120 Speaker 1: But okay, I think let's die. Then John rightly put 1983 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 1: the camera on John for a second, trying to check something. 1984 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: But John dive into some of the comments that the 1985 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 1: people have been saying. 1986 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So we have a few comments here. 1987 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 2: We have some from Lady Hayak keep the old place, 1988 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 2: so I personally am pro keeping the old place. We 1989 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 2: also had Leslie and Macderry I totally mispronounced that sorry 1990 01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,639 Speaker 2: saying old apartment and Luna Moon saying old apartment is better. Yeah, 1991 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,439 Speaker 2: I am one hundred percent in on moving into the 1992 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,920 Speaker 2: old apartment. Again, I think that they had more happy memories. 1993 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 2: They had more good things that happened in the old 1994 01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 2: apartment than the new apartment, which is literally completely and 1995 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:06,439 Speaker 2: utterly tainted. I also wonder from you all if you 1996 01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:12,040 Speaker 2: could throw some hold on red flags in the comments 1997 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 2: below and tell me if you think it was a 1998 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 2: red flag for Julie no longer wanting to discuss this 1999 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:25,439 Speaker 2: incident ever again, because I do think that you know, 2000 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 2: it was something that is worth discussing, especially the fact 2001 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:30,640 Speaker 2: that they're going on. 2002 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's It's like like you're gonna have 2003 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,040 Speaker 1: to look under it at some point, because I think 2004 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 1: what will happen if you don't look at it is 2005 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 1: they'll be building resentment. 2006 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 2: What Jane Jackson says, just throw out the old sheets 2007 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 2: the only thing we gotta get at it here gracious, 2008 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 2: oh oh and then wow. Further on that, Bernie Gross says, 2009 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,519 Speaker 2: buy a new mattress. I wouldn't be able to sleep 2010 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 2: in the same bed as Mindy. I mean, you know what, 2011 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,640 Speaker 2: getting rid of the sheets, getting rid of the mattress. 2012 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,920 Speaker 1: But deeper than getting a new in a bad neighborhood. Yes, 2013 01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,960 Speaker 1: that's all right, Yes, but I uh do have some 2014 01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 1: relevant comments. We have some quick ones too, let's hit it. 2015 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 1: But we do have another story coming. So uh just 2016 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,559 Speaker 1: get in your seat and get ready because we're we're going. 2017 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna go hard on this tream. This tream is 2018 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,519 Speaker 1: going for a while. That is correct, Stay around, ladies 2019 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. First one comes from Debbie Coleman ten ten 2020 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 1: So what happened to Mindy? Op responds, no idea. As 2021 01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,080 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, she doesn't exist. 2022 01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 2: Because remember, one of the conditions is to go completely 2023 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,840 Speaker 2: no contact potentially, which is smart. Yeah. Ocean Breeze one 2024 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 2: two three says, so it was Mindy who suggested to 2025 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,000 Speaker 2: Julie that you take the break. Op Yes, Mindy told 2026 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,400 Speaker 2: Julie that she should take a break, and at the 2027 01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,400 Speaker 2: same time told me that Julie just wanted to break 2028 01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,680 Speaker 2: up with me because she was unhappy with me. 2029 01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 3: I thought the break. 2030 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 2: I thought a break meant that she wanted to move 2031 01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 2: away and I would never see her again if I 2032 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,840 Speaker 2: said yes. Eight Marshmallows a great username says, I don't 2033 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 2: know how you can make someone who can't even stay 2034 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 2: alone in their part in their own apartment less codependent. 2035 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,280 Speaker 2: She needs her own therapist to make that happen, or 2036 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,360 Speaker 2: she will again blame you for quote unquote making her 2037 01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 2: that way. Opie says, yes, she is looking for one 2038 01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 2: right now. I have been in therapy and it takes 2039 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 2: time to find the right therapist that helps you. 2040 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 3: Big facts. At least now we have discussed. 2041 01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,600 Speaker 2: This issue, so it will be easier for us to 2042 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 2: see the signs and work on them together. 2043 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I progress, progress, progress, and that's all 2044 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 1: way that we could ask for. Definitely a way better 2045 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 1: place than we were. Goodness, Yeah, that was That was wild. 2046 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,920 Speaker 1: And I'm glad they cut off contact with Mindy, which 2047 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,720 Speaker 1: seems like the right thing to do. Yes, but I 2048 01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:50,640 Speaker 1: also am glad that you guys are not cutting off 2049 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,599 Speaker 1: contact with us because Jack Glen Dive, we love you too. 2050 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that you love us, And Nicole 2051 01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Stewart says, perfect long lives. I enjoy watching your videos. Well, 2052 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 1: get buckled out because we are about to get into 2053 01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,800 Speaker 1: another story. So, oh man, this is a great one. 2054 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Am the a hole for revealing my brother's body count 2055 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:19,840 Speaker 1: to his fiance? What do you think? 2056 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:25,919 Speaker 2: John? Yeah? Yeah, why you gotta be This is information 2057 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:30,080 Speaker 2: you don't need to be now. Now, Now the two 2058 01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 2: of them in the relationship, they can discuss that. 2059 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 3: Discuss that totally. Hey, talk about it one hundred percent. 2060 01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,680 Speaker 3: But you last time I checked, my sister are not 2061 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:41,520 Speaker 3: in mar ral matic relationships. 2062 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:47,760 Speaker 2: Hello, Also put your body counts at the job, Sam 2063 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,000 Speaker 2: and John being ready by yeah, all right, so we're 2064 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:51,639 Speaker 2: not hydriating. 2065 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 1: This is actually very uh, this is this is this 2066 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 1: is very very recent. In January nineteen twenty twenty four, 2067 01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,800 Speaker 1: so I thirty female without having a girl's night with 2068 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 1: my little brothers. Twenty eight female, my fiance twenty four female. 2069 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 1: They recently got engaged after dating for about a year. Congrats, 2070 01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,559 Speaker 1: there you go. I enjoy hanging out with my soon 2071 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,880 Speaker 1: to be sister in law, and this was one of 2072 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 1: the only times I've hung out with her without my 2073 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,559 Speaker 1: brother in to So we were all having a ball 2074 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: and most of us were a bit tipsy, and she 2075 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,120 Speaker 1: started asking me about my marriage and some more intimate 2076 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 1: questions like how does it feel to be with one 2077 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 1: person for the rest of your life? And all that 2078 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 1: jazz you can be able to do it. Following the conversation, 2079 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,800 Speaker 1: someone in the group asked everyone how many folks each 2080 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:43,400 Speaker 1: gal has slept with. I honestly wasn't comfortable with the conversation, 2081 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,800 Speaker 1: but my soon to be sister in law sort of 2082 01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,120 Speaker 1: took hold of the topic and mentioned that her and 2083 01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:53,280 Speaker 1: my brother don't concern themselves with each other's pass which 2084 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:54,599 Speaker 1: I think is someone healthy. 2085 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's not necessarily you're not sitting like, all right, 2086 01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 2: how many people you bang? 2087 01:41:59,000 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 3: Brother? 2088 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I feel like it's fairly unrelevant, 2089 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 1: at least to me. But her words were the past 2090 01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: stays in the past, and if he slept with twenty women? 2091 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,120 Speaker 1: That does not matter to her. 2092 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:14,240 Speaker 2: What about thirty? 2093 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,439 Speaker 1: What about forty? What about fifty? I actually actually have 2094 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,960 Speaker 1: a question. Is there a deal breaker number for the 2095 01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,559 Speaker 1: amount of people someone slept with? Like, so like body 2096 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,040 Speaker 1: count forty thousand? Yeah, forty thousand, assuming they're like they're like, 2097 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, still healthy and all that. You know that 2098 01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 1: all is yeah, let us know. Do you have a 2099 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,759 Speaker 1: deal breaker a body count? But Opie says, I agree 2100 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 1: with her, But this is where I probably messed up. 2101 01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,799 Speaker 1: A little brother was somewhat adventurous in his late teens 2102 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,920 Speaker 1: early twenties. He was a college athlete. 2103 01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,120 Speaker 2: And in a frat. Oh boy, but I see you 2104 01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,439 Speaker 2: in the comments if you know what's what we're about 2105 01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 2: to see? 2106 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,439 Speaker 1: And also, can you guess what the body count is? 2107 01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:57,920 Speaker 2: Guess it? 2108 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 1: As we went to the same college, we had a 2109 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of mutual friends. And this is information that was 2110 01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,000 Speaker 1: made aware to me without my wanting. So I know 2111 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 1: the ballpark of his body count is well over fifty women, 2112 01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:15,120 Speaker 1: probably closer to one hundred. And my brother confirmed this 2113 01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 1: to me when I asked him if he was being 2114 01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,680 Speaker 1: safe with decisions at the time, eg. Going to the 2115 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 1: doctor and getting tested and such. She followed up her 2116 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,920 Speaker 1: comment with something like and even if it was a 2117 01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 1: huge number like thirty five people or so, I wouldn't care. 2118 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:36,040 Speaker 1: Her saying that prompted me to ask what if it 2119 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 1: was fifty? Which also at least he's using the conservative 2120 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,120 Speaker 1: side to the scale, he said fifty hundred. But all right, 2121 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:50,680 Speaker 1: stopping right here? Is it a red flag one of 2122 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,240 Speaker 1: op to say this is it? And also like like, 2123 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 1: what do you think of op saying asking that question? 2124 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 3: Okay? So and again so this is Opie who is 2125 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 3: the sister? 2126 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 1: So just a reminder, I thirty female? Yep, I was 2127 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,439 Speaker 1: out having a girl's net with my little brother's twenty 2128 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:16,600 Speaker 1: eight male fiance twenty four female. So they're out, So 2129 01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 1: thirty female Opie and twenty four female fiance. 2130 01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 2: Opis sister. 2131 01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:23,439 Speaker 1: Opie is the sister of the brother. 2132 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:25,840 Speaker 3: Yes, and she's the one that was like, what about fifty? 2133 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,200 Speaker 1: What about fifty again? Asshole or not? 2134 01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:36,920 Speaker 2: Asshole? I would say boink, asshole and red flag because again, 2135 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:41,280 Speaker 2: like just by saying the question, you have now revealed 2136 01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,640 Speaker 2: the a number a number and honestly, what is she? 2137 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,120 Speaker 2: What is what would any human want to they would 2138 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 2: want to know, curiosity will kill the cat. Yeah, so 2139 01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,679 Speaker 2: if she keeps going down the rabbit hole the fiance, 2140 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,120 Speaker 2: is she gonna find out that Actually we're talking about 2141 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,280 Speaker 2: air arrangement fifty to one hundred bodies. 2142 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Do you think she's going to take the bait and 2143 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,680 Speaker 1: go down the rabbit hole? Is Alice falling down the 2144 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 1: rabbit hole? Let's put our conspiracy theory hats on. What 2145 01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 1: do you think? 2146 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 2147 01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely gonna take the bait? Absolutely? Yeah? What do 2148 01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,719 Speaker 1: you guys think? But your answer is in the comments. 2149 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,920 Speaker 1: Jeff says, Opie has sown a seed, but not as 2150 01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,040 Speaker 1: many as her brother. 2151 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 3: So that's amazing right now, by the way, off, Yeah, 2152 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:31,280 Speaker 3: what a cute. 2153 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's go down this hole just like Op's okay. 2154 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 4: Oh uh. 2155 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 1: She got a sort of strange look on her face 2156 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:45,840 Speaker 1: and mouth the word fifty fifty, But I played it 2157 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,599 Speaker 1: off like I didn't know what I was talking about 2158 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 1: and more so curious about what her cutoff range for 2159 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot is. Fast forward a few days and I 2160 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:57,680 Speaker 1: meet them both for lunch and she seems sort of 2161 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: sullen and my brother is being short with me. When 2162 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 1: she goes to the bathroom, I ask my brother, what's up? 2163 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,240 Speaker 1: And he basically blames me for having revealed his past 2164 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 1: sexual history to his fiance and now she's acting strange 2165 01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,200 Speaker 1: towards him, which I guess, which is, you know what 2166 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 1: we were saying before, like transparency with your your partner, 2167 01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,759 Speaker 1: Like I feel like maybe being transparent about your past 2168 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 1: will make it so things like this don't happen. 2169 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:24,760 Speaker 3: Drop the BodyCount, OPI is. 2170 01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 1: Still the A hole? 2171 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,519 Speaker 2: But yes, but but if they already knew, they already 2172 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,639 Speaker 2: kne wouldn't be an issue. But if they already knew, 2173 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:31,840 Speaker 2: would they have stayed together? 2174 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 1: True? I explained that it was a slip of the 2175 01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,320 Speaker 1: tongue and I didn't confirm any number. But now he 2176 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 1: has pissed in a couple of our mutual friends have 2177 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 1: let me know I have ft up. Am I the 2178 01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:46,240 Speaker 1: A hole? And there is There is a relevant some 2179 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,360 Speaker 1: relevant comments and an update which we will read. But 2180 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Is OP the A hole? 2181 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 3: Let us know in the comments below? 2182 01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Joe, what do you think? I? 2183 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,640 Speaker 2: So let's break it down a little bit. Yes, she 2184 01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,439 Speaker 2: did like ask a question, but the thing is, she 2185 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:05,880 Speaker 2: revealed the information in the question. I truly think that 2186 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,519 Speaker 2: the sister should have just kept her mouth closed. 2187 01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and a whole moved to ask the question. 2188 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 3: Here's a question. 2189 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,000 Speaker 2: Would she be an a hole if she went to 2190 01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 2: the brother and was like, your fiance thinks thirty five 2191 01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:19,360 Speaker 2: is a high number? 2192 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 1: Maybe that I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. 2193 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,720 Speaker 1: But I think like, like, hey, maybe this is something 2194 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,840 Speaker 1: you want to get ahead of. Someone in the chat, 2195 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 1: is right if you scroll up a little bit they 2196 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:36,679 Speaker 1: said a little bit more. Yeah, Transparency. Kim Kwant says 2197 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 1: transparency is so important relationships, And I think it is 2198 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,200 Speaker 1: because it's like you're the truth comes out. The truth 2199 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,120 Speaker 1: comes out, and if you if it comes out from you, 2200 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 1: maybe it'll thinks will be a little bit easier. 2201 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2202 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,560 Speaker 1: Still OPI is the a hole to be clear, but 2203 01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,519 Speaker 1: much better to be fully upfront. So I don't think 2204 01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,880 Speaker 1: OPI would be the a hole for saying like, hey, 2205 01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: just heads up, maybe you should get ahead of this one. 2206 01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,680 Speaker 3: So but in reality, OPI is to a hill by 2207 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,160 Speaker 3: art decree. 2208 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,719 Speaker 2: But you you disagree, you want to let's talk about 2209 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,120 Speaker 2: let's come on and talk about get those comments. 2210 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,080 Speaker 1: Dustin melbote Line says, like, why is OPI out here 2211 01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:16,840 Speaker 1: thorough pots. Uh, because because OPI maybe likes it. Ope, 2212 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:18,800 Speaker 1: he wants this thorough little pot. Maybe OPI he's a cook, 2213 01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,840 Speaker 1: maybe a lot of op he is being controlled by 2214 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,599 Speaker 1: a little French rat. Who knows. But let's get into 2215 01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 1: the relevant comments. So typical Internet seven thirty says you 2216 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 1: are the asshole. But I think you wanted her to 2217 01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,120 Speaker 1: know once she said such a low number compared to 2218 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 1: the truth. I think you believe your brother was reckless 2219 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 1: and using women, so she needed to know his past. Personally, 2220 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,320 Speaker 1: I bet he was reckless in using women, but I 2221 01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 1: have to assume it was consensual. He was given the 2222 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to have a ton of sex and he took it. 2223 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,799 Speaker 1: But I think only he should be the one discussing 2224 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:51,280 Speaker 1: numbers with maybe not future sister in law thing opie. Uh, 2225 01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: the commenter is jumping. Once you put that number in 2226 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,639 Speaker 1: the air, it was over. She is now obviously hurt 2227 01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:59,479 Speaker 1: to hear it. She may have believed it was high, 2228 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,320 Speaker 1: but noting was easier. This is a very tough situation now, 2229 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,840 Speaker 1: and their relationship may never recover, which I think could 2230 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,040 Speaker 1: be true possible, or maybe it will, but it's going 2231 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 1: to take time. You force them to have a conversation 2232 01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,000 Speaker 1: they agreed to avoid, so be prepared to lose your 2233 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,080 Speaker 1: brother for a while or possibly forever. I don't know 2234 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,560 Speaker 1: if that may be true, but maybe I'm betting you 2235 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,280 Speaker 1: meant no harm or malice, but now you have to 2236 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:24,439 Speaker 1: live with the repercussions. Good luck repairing a relationship, and 2237 01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,840 Speaker 1: I hope they are able to move forward with theirs 2238 01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:30,680 Speaker 1: and hop he does respond. Yeah, I can accept I 2239 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,640 Speaker 1: was totally the a hole in the situation, but I 2240 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,720 Speaker 1: really did not mean to be the a whole. For 2241 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,920 Speaker 1: what is worth, My brother and soon to be sister 2242 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,160 Speaker 1: in law are fine now. She actually did text me 2243 01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,680 Speaker 1: sort of thanking me for alluding to it. In the end, 2244 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,240 Speaker 1: it hasn't changed anything between them. My brother and I 2245 01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,200 Speaker 1: are all right. It really was just one lunch that 2246 01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,680 Speaker 1: he was like, what the F dude. In the end, 2247 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,559 Speaker 1: he knows it was not out of malice, which is good. 2248 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,640 Speaker 1: That is me if the relationship was strong enough to 2249 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 1: whather it. 2250 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 2251 01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I would hope that the brother and sister will 2252 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,240 Speaker 2: relationship would also be able to continue, which I think 2253 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:03,519 Speaker 2: it will. 2254 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,400 Speaker 1: And there are is a more relevant comments and an 2255 01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,360 Speaker 1: update Okay, there we go. So Bori sty seventeen says, 2256 01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 1: what was the best possible outcome for this? In your head? 2257 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 1: Opie says, there just wasn't enough thought in term for 2258 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,360 Speaker 1: the best possible outcome. I was just taken by surprise 2259 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,599 Speaker 1: that her high theoretical number was so much less than 2260 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,880 Speaker 1: his actual number, his actual bottom range number, his bottom range, 2261 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:33,479 Speaker 1: emphasis on bottom. But uh, we have another update, so 2262 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,519 Speaker 1: shall we get into its? Do it all? Right? So 2263 01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,640 Speaker 1: this is January twenty second, twenty twenty four. So this 2264 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,760 Speaker 1: this is like a few days ago, less than a 2265 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,600 Speaker 1: week ago. That's right, Kitty B Hello, Hello to you 2266 01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,880 Speaker 1: as well. I showed my brother the post after apologizing 2267 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,640 Speaker 1: for my mistake, and mostly he laughed but was baffled 2268 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,800 Speaker 1: at the hostel applies. My brother and future sister in 2269 01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 1: law are fine. My future sister in law actually a 2270 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,560 Speaker 1: pro wich me privately and let me know she was 2271 01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:05,639 Speaker 1: happy to have the conversation now with my brother versus later. 2272 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,240 Speaker 1: She did say it was a shock when he told 2273 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,400 Speaker 1: her his sexual history, but at that point I excuse 2274 01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 1: myself out of the conversation and let her know I 2275 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 1: would not be having any discussions about my brother's sexual 2276 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,639 Speaker 1: history from here on out. My brother is not plotting 2277 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,600 Speaker 1: his revenge like commenters and messengers implied. Damn rudd, it 2278 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,720 Speaker 1: is really going after people's throats here. 2279 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:27,000 Speaker 2: Goodness geez. 2280 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,679 Speaker 1: He understands that although this was not in my court 2281 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,559 Speaker 1: to say, he probably shouldn't have waved it off at 2282 01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,720 Speaker 1: the early stages of their relationship like he had done. Yes, 2283 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,479 Speaker 1: brother and future sister in law are still together. To 2284 01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:45,600 Speaker 1: the internet psychologists who diagnosed me with psychopathy and narcissism, 2285 01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:50,360 Speaker 1: you should consider touching some grass Ooh, I love terms 2286 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:52,600 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I also got a lot of 2287 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,839 Speaker 1: messages telling me that they wished sexual history was discussed 2288 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 1: in greater detail with their partners prior to marriage. But 2289 01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,880 Speaker 1: I think is what we're talking about, like we're talking transparency. Yes, 2290 01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,600 Speaker 1: take that as you will. I also got messages that 2291 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:09,000 Speaker 1: were pretty explicit in the opposite direction. For those who 2292 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,200 Speaker 1: try to imply my brother and I have an incestuous relationship, 2293 01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:16,040 Speaker 1: oh dear, please close those corn tabs and wipe the 2294 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 1: cheeto dust off your fingers. Something I didn't mention was 2295 01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,439 Speaker 1: that I was a college athlete myself, and word travels 2296 01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 1: fast in those groups. I'm close enough to my brother 2297 01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:26,839 Speaker 1: to ask if he was being safe with his choices. 2298 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 1: And that's how I know about his sexual past. And 2299 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,559 Speaker 1: there is another relevant comments. But what do you think 2300 01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,840 Speaker 1: do you think Ope and the brother are too close? 2301 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,040 Speaker 1: Do you agree with these Reddit Internet psychologists? What do 2302 01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 1: you think? You know? 2303 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,080 Speaker 2: I think by the mere fact of her wanting to 2304 01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 2: back out of these body count conversations, it's clearly no. 2305 01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:49,599 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. 2306 01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no, nothing's going on here, it's this is 2307 01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:56,360 Speaker 2: just what it is like brothers and sisters. 2308 01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:02,120 Speaker 1: Really, I'm not asking my sister about her body count? Sure, 2309 01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,080 Speaker 1: but actually, which should we have? Sofia swap out for 2310 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,080 Speaker 1: you if you wanted to eat and pee, and then 2311 01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,360 Speaker 1: we can keep going and then you can swap back 2312 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:11,720 Speaker 1: in for me. 2313 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,680 Speaker 3: We we can do that, we want to do that. 2314 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,439 Speaker 3: We can bring Sofia in on the mat. 2315 01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, comment Sofia if you want Sofia to come 2316 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 1: in the chat, and then Riley maybe text Sofia to 2317 01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 1: come on up here and I can read this relevant 2318 01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,280 Speaker 1: comment while it is coming up, but I'll also read 2319 01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,559 Speaker 1: some of your relevant comments. Lady Hike says, Geez, Reddit incest, 2320 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,760 Speaker 1: they seem fine yeah, read it tends to jump to 2321 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:39,560 Speaker 1: the like craziest collusions possible doing the most, and we 2322 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,720 Speaker 1: do have a bunch more stories for y'all, so keep 2323 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,280 Speaker 1: staying tune. I'm gonna read this relevant comment. Please help 2324 01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 1: thirty three. So you got all pissy that you were 2325 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,040 Speaker 1: rightly judged the a hole in your previous posts. So 2326 01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:57,479 Speaker 1: now you've posted again attacking the commenters again. You're the 2327 01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:58,000 Speaker 1: a hole. 2328 01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:58,920 Speaker 2: Damn read it. 2329 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,920 Speaker 1: You're really leading up, He says. I'm not pissy. I 2330 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,120 Speaker 1: take responsibility for my part and was the a hole 2331 01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,439 Speaker 1: in that situation, no doubt about it. I post this 2332 01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,439 Speaker 1: update because it was suggested by a few that I do, 2333 01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of folks were making assumptions that I 2334 01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:22,120 Speaker 1: ruined his relationship. Dude, Reddit is Reddit is rough. Dude, Hey, 2335 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:27,560 Speaker 1: doing the most Reddit is rough. But yeah, yeah, Soriah 2336 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 1: Jade says, reddite gets so spicy sometimes. Robert Smart says, 2337 01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:34,360 Speaker 1: I just want to say this is kind of cool. 2338 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,280 Speaker 1: I've never been in the comments of a live video 2339 01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 1: where the readers interacting with the comments, and it's one 2340 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite channels. Thanks y'all, Oh, thank you so much. 2341 01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 1: We heart you too. Does Sophia know to come up yet, Riley, Sophia. 2342 01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:55,720 Speaker 1: They're chanting Queen Sophia. Sophia says, bring out, Sophia, Sophia, 2343 01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:59,840 Speaker 1: get over here. We're gonna get into this next story 2344 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,520 Speaker 1: in a sec. But this is should I read the 2345 01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:08,320 Speaker 1: title while we're waiting for Sophia to come in. 2346 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,400 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 2347 01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:15,120 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, are you ready? My wife booked 2348 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:21,240 Speaker 1: our anniversary trip without me. M shall we do it? 2349 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,640 Speaker 1: Wife booked a trip without my wife booked my anniversary 2350 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 1: trip without me? Is that a red flag? 2351 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,440 Speaker 2: Who else are you booking it with? Are you booking 2352 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,480 Speaker 2: it without me and with somebody else? 2353 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:37,480 Speaker 1: I feel like most likely? I feel like most likely 2354 01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:42,480 Speaker 1: that's what it sounded like. This comes from Big Apple Parade. 2355 01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:47,680 Speaker 1: All right, So Riley is just pulling up it right here. Yeah, 2356 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 1: Limester says, this is already bad. Yeah, it feels pretty bad. 2357 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:53,560 Speaker 1: It feels pretty bad. 2358 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of red flags. Red flags in 2359 01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:57,480 Speaker 2: a chat. 2360 01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's get going into this. So my wife 2361 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,840 Speaker 1: posted a question about this somewhere on reddits maybe here, 2362 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, and now I can't find it first 2363 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:12,480 Speaker 1: time using Reddit welcome he yo. She posted about me 2364 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 1: not wanting to go on an anniversary trip that she 2365 01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 1: had planned. She showed me the responses, and some said 2366 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,640 Speaker 1: I was checked out of the marriage. A lot of 2367 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,680 Speaker 1: them said just to book the trip anyways, and I'd 2368 01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 1: get over it. After she showed me the responses, we 2369 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:28,960 Speaker 1: tried to talk it out, but she was mad that 2370 01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't give her a valid reason for not wanting 2371 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 1: to go. And Sophie don't want to hop in the chair. Yeah, 2372 01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 1: so John and I can eat. Yeah, I get in. 2373 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:47,720 Speaker 1: Sophia's coming in. Okay, So Sophia, the question is infidel? 2374 01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,800 Speaker 1: My wife booked our anniversary trip without me? Is that 2375 01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:52,520 Speaker 1: a red flag? 2376 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:53,920 Speaker 2: What? 2377 01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,280 Speaker 1: Wait? Yeah, my wife an anniversary trip without me? Is 2378 01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:57,920 Speaker 1: that a red flag? 2379 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:02,600 Speaker 4: Yes? Right, anniversary of their relationship. Presumably that's weird. 2380 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,440 Speaker 1: So apparently, So to catch you up, the wife posted 2381 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,280 Speaker 1: about him not wanting to go on anniversary trip that 2382 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,520 Speaker 1: she had planned, and she showed me some of the 2383 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,760 Speaker 1: messages saying I was checked out of the marriage. So 2384 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 1: now op is being like, all right, time to defend 2385 01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,480 Speaker 1: myself and defend my honor. Uh huh Okay. So after 2386 01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,720 Speaker 1: she showed me the messages, we tried to talk it out, 2387 01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:25,320 Speaker 1: but she was mad that I couldn't give her a 2388 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,160 Speaker 1: valid reason for not wanting to go. Also, tell John 2389 01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:29,920 Speaker 1: that the food is right next to the door so 2390 01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:30,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't get hungry. 2391 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:31,600 Speaker 4: I brought it. 2392 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:34,680 Speaker 1: So she was mad that I couldn't give her a 2393 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,960 Speaker 1: valid reason for not wanting to go. She said she 2394 01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 1: hasn't traveled in over five years, and she was going 2395 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,280 Speaker 1: either way. I kind of thought she'd eventually get over 2396 01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:47,800 Speaker 1: it and forget about the trip. Well she didn't. I 2397 01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:48,800 Speaker 1: don't think she got over it. 2398 01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,160 Speaker 4: Hold on before you go on, just to just see 2399 01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,040 Speaker 4: if I get this way. So they were going to 2400 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 4: go on an anniversary trip and then the husband was 2401 01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:56,840 Speaker 4: like I don't Oh. 2402 01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:58,360 Speaker 1: He was like, I don't want to go on anymore, 2403 01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,840 Speaker 1: and then yes, uh yeah, so OPI didn't want to 2404 01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 1: go on the anniversary trip. Yeah, and then uh Opee's 2405 01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,000 Speaker 1: wife was like, I'm gonna go on it anyway. 2406 01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,440 Speaker 4: Okay, actually kind of I kind of vibe with it. 2407 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:13,080 Speaker 4: I vibe with that. 2408 01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2409 01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I craved Fried trick and says, that's so strange. 2410 01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,520 Speaker 1: I thought she went She meant she went alone. 2411 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2412 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was confused at first, but I think I'm 2413 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 4: on the same page. Yeah, I don't know a piece 2414 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,360 Speaker 4: upset about that because I feel like if you if 2415 01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 4: you don't want to go in the relationship or on 2416 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,040 Speaker 4: the trip, too bad. 2417 01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think she's she's gone yet. Okay, she's 2418 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,240 Speaker 1: not hasn't gone yet. So after she showed me the message, 2419 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:39,400 Speaker 1: we tried to talk about, but she was mad. I 2420 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,760 Speaker 1: couldn't give her a valid reason for not wanting to go. 2421 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 1: She said she hasn't traveled in over five years, and 2422 01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,600 Speaker 1: she was going either way. I kind of thought she'd 2423 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,560 Speaker 1: eventually get over it and forget about the trip. Well, 2424 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,560 Speaker 1: she took Reddit's advice and booked the trip anyways, but 2425 01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:55,000 Speaker 1: instead of booking it for the two of us, she 2426 01:58:55,160 --> 01:59:01,000 Speaker 1: booked it for her and a male coworker. Oh yes, 2427 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,800 Speaker 1: a long weekend in the Caribbean with a male co worker. 2428 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause right here. Is this a red flag? 2429 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,440 Speaker 4: It could be, Okay, I don't think that going on 2430 01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:12,960 Speaker 4: the anniversary trip is a red flag. 2431 01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,720 Speaker 1: I think that I think going on the anniversary tip solo, 2432 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:16,640 Speaker 1: it's like a trip. 2433 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,280 Speaker 4: At that point, it's just a trip, and she has 2434 01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:20,440 Speaker 4: it on a new trip, and she wants to go 2435 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,840 Speaker 4: on a ship. I don't know about inviting. 2436 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 1: A male coworker that it feels like revenge. It feels 2437 01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,800 Speaker 1: like revenge. Let us know in the chat if you 2438 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's revenge. It feels a little bit like revenge. Lady, yeah, 2439 01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:39,160 Speaker 1: Zodiac says Major red. Elena says yes, Kim quant red Flag, 2440 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,880 Speaker 1: red fave, red Flag, red Flag ferglicious, great name, red Flag. 2441 01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 1: But living for the petty ness we are too, And 2442 01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:48,280 Speaker 1: so we're going to get into this next bit. I 2443 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 1: asked her if anything was going on between them, and 2444 01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:54,680 Speaker 1: she said no. Why did you think that I had 2445 01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,400 Speaker 1: no reason to believe she would cheat on me until today, 2446 01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,960 Speaker 1: which she is clearly going to do if she goes 2447 02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:03,360 Speaker 1: to resort with him. Oh that's that's a little maybe 2448 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:04,000 Speaker 1: it's a little much. 2449 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:04,880 Speaker 4: Maybe that's a jump. 2450 02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,000 Speaker 1: She's a good looking woman, but she has been very 2451 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:09,360 Speaker 1: loyal for the past ten years. I am shocked. What 2452 02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,520 Speaker 1: should I do? How can I fix this? She thought 2453 02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,320 Speaker 1: I was checked out of the marriage, but it's clear 2454 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,080 Speaker 1: she's the one giving up. Do you think like this? 2455 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Do you think her going on a on a all 2456 02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, Caribbean, a Caribbean vacation? Is that was that 2457 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:28,560 Speaker 1: established Yes, yeah, yeah, so there, so she is she 2458 02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 1: booked a Caribbean long weekend in the Caribbean with a 2459 02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:33,000 Speaker 1: male coworker. 2460 02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that. 2461 02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,000 Speaker 1: You think it's like that it's almost positive that they're 2462 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:37,560 Speaker 1: going to hook up. 2463 02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:41,160 Speaker 4: No, No, I don't think that's a positive. I think 2464 02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,600 Speaker 4: it could happen. I think it's a little bit like 2465 02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:46,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if as partner would be super comfortable. 2466 02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:47,440 Speaker 1: I would not be comfortable. 2467 02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:51,240 Speaker 4: But after after establishing that this was originally going to 2468 02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,800 Speaker 4: be an anniversary trip and now she's a trip trip. 2469 02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,680 Speaker 1: But I feel but I feel like the doing it 2470 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,000 Speaker 1: with a male coworker is revenge. Even if they don't 2471 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:00,440 Speaker 1: hook up. 2472 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:01,720 Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to hook up. 2473 02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:03,920 Speaker 1: But kids, well okay, so what they're stay in the 2474 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:09,440 Speaker 1: same room, all right, Well, let's see it's out. I 2475 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:11,280 Speaker 1: don't want to go because it's a long weekend in 2476 02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Canada and I'd rather just hang out at my cabin. Also, 2477 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,240 Speaker 1: she arranged childcare. Oh, they have kids, but this way 2478 02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,680 Speaker 1: we won't have to worry about having someone watch the kids. 2479 02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,600 Speaker 1: The coworker, I don't know anything about him. She never 2480 02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:24,640 Speaker 1: talks about work. She goes to work and comes right 2481 02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,040 Speaker 1: back home, or she's not at work. 2482 02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah the coworker, Oh no, no, like, oh, he should 2483 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:31,280 Speaker 4: ask questions about her life. 2484 02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should know about the co workers. 2485 02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:34,400 Speaker 4: He should know about her work. 2486 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,160 Speaker 1: But she's not at work, she's with the kids and 2487 02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:39,000 Speaker 1: is never on her phone. So if she's having a 2488 02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:42,400 Speaker 1: fair she's really darn good at hiding it. So we're 2489 02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna get into the top comments and an update. But 2490 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:46,000 Speaker 1: what do you think? 2491 02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,200 Speaker 4: I feel like their relationship is not very good on 2492 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,520 Speaker 4: both sides. Like, I mean, again, I don't really know 2493 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,080 Speaker 4: what happened in the first half of this story. 2494 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,760 Speaker 1: You came close to the beginning, Okay, Okay, then I. 2495 02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,880 Speaker 4: Guess I do. But it seems like they don't trust 2496 02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:01,280 Speaker 4: each other. 2497 02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah it feels I mean, if this is. 2498 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 4: A revenge thing, then that's also not like a health 2499 02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:07,960 Speaker 4: It needs. 2500 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:09,720 Speaker 1: To be a revenge thing, right for health? I don't know, 2501 02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:11,960 Speaker 1: it has to be a revenge thing. Yeah, because like, 2502 02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, why would she do that? I don't know, 2503 02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:15,680 Speaker 1: what do you guys think as a revenge thing? We'll 2504 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,960 Speaker 1: lead some of the comments as Stella Davis says, I 2505 02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,560 Speaker 1: love kids, but I wouldn't want them on my anniversary trip. 2506 02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2507 02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,080 Speaker 1: Oh u A groovy hippie chick says, is the coworker game? 2508 02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:27,080 Speaker 4: I was, That's what I was thinking, because I think 2509 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,800 Speaker 4: that does death change everything? That changes things, because that's like, oh, 2510 02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:32,600 Speaker 4: we're best he's gone on a trip. 2511 02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. 2512 02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:35,920 Speaker 4: I was thinking about But shouldn't. 2513 02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 1: They kind of like if they're going to do an 2514 02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 1: anniversary thing, shouldn't they kind of like agree on something 2515 02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:40,680 Speaker 1: that they both would want to do? 2516 02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, but what do you mean? 2517 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2518 02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean who who like, you don't 2519 02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,360 Speaker 1: book an anniversary trip for yourself? You you decide together 2520 02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:51,880 Speaker 1: on something. 2521 02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I guess is the trip like coinciding 2522 02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:00,560 Speaker 4: exactly with the anniversary? Yes, okay, that's I don't know. 2523 02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Is it a red flag? Ben on the Move says, 2524 02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I think it's revenge. Janey Jackson says are they in 2525 02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:10,600 Speaker 1: an open relationship? I don't think so. There's no mention 2526 02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:13,800 Speaker 1: of that, And Sarah Badov says he's trying to save money. 2527 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Do you know how much a cabin slash second house costs? 2528 02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:16,880 Speaker 2: Here? 2529 02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:17,680 Speaker 4: Where's here? 2530 02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Canada? 2531 02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2532 02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:24,840 Speaker 1: They're in Canada. Okay, so top comments Overrated New four 2533 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:26,960 Speaker 1: two three said, why would you not want to go 2534 02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:28,600 Speaker 1: on a romantic trip with your wife? 2535 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, why wouldn't 2536 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:32,760 Speaker 4: you want to go on a fun little adventure. 2537 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a homebody. Maybe Bodacius Shield says 2538 02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:40,080 Speaker 1: he'd rather sit around his cabin doing nothing, apparently, while 2539 02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I wonder why his wife is losing interest in this marriage. 2540 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,160 Speaker 1: And Bella Burr says, your wife brought up a want 2541 02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,600 Speaker 1: to you. You didn't listen, ignored her and couldn't explain 2542 02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:51,120 Speaker 1: to her why you can't meet her, and and are 2543 02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,480 Speaker 1: shocked she is checking out of the marriage. 2544 02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 4: Wow, they really read him. 2545 02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:57,680 Speaker 1: They really they tore Meto pieces. I mean, I think 2546 02:03:58,160 --> 02:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I think there's blame on both sides. Like I said, 2547 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I think they're not communicating with each other factory. Yeah, 2548 02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I think it's not a great What do you think? 2549 02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Who? 2550 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean? Do you think they're both to blame? Do 2551 02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:09,880 Speaker 1: you think only one of them? Sarah Jade says, these 2552 02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:11,440 Speaker 1: two needs some damn therapy. 2553 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, therapy therapy therapy. 2554 02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,720 Speaker 1: Chance their therapy therapy therapy. 2555 02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:19,440 Speaker 4: There. Oh sorry. 2556 02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I was chanting and I was getting up all right, anyway, 2557 02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:28,400 Speaker 1: let's get into the update. I'm really embarrassed about all 2558 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:32,880 Speaker 1: of this. A few things. My husband doesn't use social media. 2559 02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised he made a Reddit account at all. Oh, whoa, whoa. 2560 02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:40,000 Speaker 1: This is from the wife's perspective. Whoa, I was thin 2561 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:45,040 Speaker 1: so uh Op posted on January twenty second, which is 2562 02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the husband. The wife posted on January twenty third the 2563 02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:50,080 Speaker 1: next day. 2564 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:51,760 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 2565 02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:54,200 Speaker 1: This is kind of cute. I don't know. It's like 2566 02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:59,160 Speaker 1: they're setting letters. Did they pronounce oas? Do you like 2567 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:02,800 Speaker 1: pene escape? Yeah? They're like like, this is like the 2568 02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:07,040 Speaker 1: new version of writing letters to each other in the newspaper. 2569 02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:10,440 Speaker 1: They're on a Reddit together. Shit, all right, we're about 2570 02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:12,840 Speaker 1: to get some tea, y'all. Put some tea in the chatter. 2571 02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:13,400 Speaker 1: You're excited. 2572 02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:13,760 Speaker 4: A trick. 2573 02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:18,320 Speaker 1: So one. My husband doesn't use social media. I'm surprised 2574 02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:20,880 Speaker 1: he made a Reddit account at all. Obviously, you guys 2575 02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,520 Speaker 1: don't know each other very well and are communicating. When 2576 02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:25,960 Speaker 1: I saw the post, I confronted him about it. He 2577 02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,800 Speaker 1: said he made the post to prove a point, but 2578 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:33,480 Speaker 1: clearly stop reading the responses early on, because I guess 2579 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,080 Speaker 1: he didn't see all the back last year. 2580 02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh I thought you. I thought it was gonna be 2581 02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:38,920 Speaker 4: that she like posted something in the respect. 2582 02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:41,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think so. Two. I only made 2583 02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,960 Speaker 1: my initial post to try to show him that wanting 2584 02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:47,240 Speaker 1: to go on a ten year anniversary trip wasn't asking 2585 02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot. I deleted the post because I was embarrassed 2586 02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:53,240 Speaker 1: he didn't want to travel with me. I know, I know, 2587 02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I know now not to get marriage advice from Reddit 2588 02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,640 Speaker 1: of all places, but I always like to hear other 2589 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:00,840 Speaker 1: p bull's point of view. 2590 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:02,240 Speaker 4: Get your marriage advice from us. 2591 02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,360 Speaker 1: And three, this is what we've all been waiting for. 2592 02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:11,160 Speaker 1: My coworker is gay. My husband knows. That husband was 2593 02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:14,600 Speaker 1: intentionally uh not giving that information. 2594 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,280 Speaker 4: He said. First of all, he said that, oh, I 2595 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,640 Speaker 4: don't know anything about my wife's coworker or anything about 2596 02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:21,080 Speaker 4: her jobs. 2597 02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:22,600 Speaker 1: He's trying to paint the wife as bad. 2598 02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:24,720 Speaker 4: And then he was like, they're definitely good at cheat. 2599 02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,960 Speaker 4: He literally seems like they're absolutely good cheating. 2600 02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what Riley? 2601 02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:33,640 Speaker 5: What about what if he's what if it's an act 2602 02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,560 Speaker 5: he's actually not gay? You know how like, oh, likely 2603 02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,240 Speaker 5: they'll be like, oh I'm gay, invite me to the sleepover, 2604 02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:43,720 Speaker 5: the sleepover, the trip. 2605 02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Do you think this is the 2606 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:53,080 Speaker 1: long con? Yeah from U. Now, op the wife gay 2607 02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:56,280 Speaker 1: coworker is actually straight and is in this for the 2608 02:06:56,320 --> 02:07:00,120 Speaker 1: long that that that is. That is a conspiracy if 2609 02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:03,160 Speaker 1: I've ever heard that's a conspiracy, if I ever heard one. 2610 02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I completely agree, but uh, Stella 2611 02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Davis says, Riley, do not be a Jesse. The Jesse 2612 02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:13,760 Speaker 1: was from the first story who was super manipulative. Yeah, 2613 02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:17,320 Speaker 1: do not be a Jesse or what was it, Miley? 2614 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:18,360 Speaker 1: What's her name? 2615 02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:20,839 Speaker 5: Uh Mindy, Mindy. 2616 02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Don't be a Jesse or a Mindy. 2617 02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Sydney. I can't durand yeah, no one 2618 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:27,680 Speaker 4: actually does that. No one actually does that. 2619 02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:29,760 Speaker 1: That's like a that's just like a trope from like 2620 02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:33,800 Speaker 1: bad eighties movies. Yeah, but hey, that's why we were 2621 02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:38,480 Speaker 1: putting the conspiracy hats one. So let's keep going. My 2622 02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:41,480 Speaker 1: husband knows that I've known him for four years and 2623 02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:46,400 Speaker 1: talk about him all the time. He paid his own way, 2624 02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,480 Speaker 1: and it is only going because none of my friends 2625 02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,240 Speaker 1: could go mom life and wanted to check out the 2626 02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,840 Speaker 1: island as he's getting married there next fall to another man. 2627 02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:58,320 Speaker 4: So not only is this man gay, but he's in 2628 02:07:58,400 --> 02:07:59,320 Speaker 4: a relationship. 2629 02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,160 Speaker 1: My husband doesn't want me traveling with some guy he 2630 02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,160 Speaker 1: never met, but none of my girlfriends could go, and 2631 02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go alone. Four I'm standing firm 2632 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:10,240 Speaker 1: that I need a vacation. Yes, I wanted a ten 2633 02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:13,000 Speaker 1: year anniversary vacation to our honeymoon spot. And I'm really 2634 02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,240 Speaker 1: sad it's not happening. It's been five years since my 2635 02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:19,080 Speaker 1: last vacation, and that was a visit family. So really 2636 02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:22,440 Speaker 1: seven years since my last fun vacation. I've had two kids, 2637 02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,200 Speaker 1: survived to pandemic, and work my butt off to get 2638 02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,400 Speaker 1: an executive level job. I'm getting the hell out of 2639 02:08:28,480 --> 02:08:30,280 Speaker 1: here for a few days. It's only a few days. 2640 02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:33,360 Speaker 4: It's only a few days in OP or old op. 2641 02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, like I love how this update just completely 2642 02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:40,840 Speaker 1: trashes the initial ope. 2643 02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:43,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well, I feel like most people in the 2644 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:45,520 Speaker 4: comments of the original post kind of. 2645 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:46,960 Speaker 1: Called trash him too. 2646 02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2647 02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Five, What the F is this about him wanting to 2648 02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:52,240 Speaker 1: go to his cabin. He never told me that. Plus, 2649 02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,520 Speaker 1: he goes there at least eight times a year. I 2650 02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,160 Speaker 1: asked him about that and he said that it's because 2651 02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,760 Speaker 1: it's because he enjoys doing that. And he didn't want 2652 02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,360 Speaker 1: to tell me because I would make him feel bad. Anyway, 2653 02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:05,680 Speaker 1: this whole thing is embarrassing. We'll probably delete this post 2654 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,400 Speaker 1: later and there are some top comments. But damn if 2655 02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:13,040 Speaker 1: this is addition your private relationship, stop to the whole 2656 02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:15,080 Speaker 1: group of people. I don't know what is Yeah, this 2657 02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:17,680 Speaker 1: is getting. This is public fighting taken to a whole 2658 02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:19,760 Speaker 1: new level. Yeah, do you have a comment that you 2659 02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:20,360 Speaker 1: left at. 2660 02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:23,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, I was just laughing at their relationships. 2661 02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. Kim Quant says divorce, divorce, devorce, devorse. 2662 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Gracie Macus says, I've waited for this all week. Shyler says, 2663 02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:38,040 Speaker 1: oh wow, he really was selective with the truth. 2664 02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, true, yeah, No, Also, wait did I I don't 2665 02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,000 Speaker 4: know if I understood this correctly, but he was going 2666 02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:44,600 Speaker 4: to a cabin and he wasn't telling her. 2667 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,280 Speaker 1: I think he just wanted to go to a cabin 2668 02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,280 Speaker 1: instead of going like he goes to a cabin all 2669 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,400 Speaker 1: the time. He's like, I'd rather go to the cabin 2670 02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:55,360 Speaker 1: than like go on an anniversary trip. He sounds selfish 2671 02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:55,560 Speaker 1: on it. 2672 02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, well that's not what I want. 2673 02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:02,360 Speaker 1: To do, so no, yeah, he sounds selfish. He sounds 2674 02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,280 Speaker 1: like he doesn't listen. Yeah, and he sounds like he's 2675 02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:10,480 Speaker 1: being selective with his truths. But also, maybe y'all instead 2676 02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:12,640 Speaker 1: of like dishing your stuff out on Reddit, which hey, 2677 02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:14,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I shouldn't be saying that because I'm 2678 02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:15,520 Speaker 1: glad I got to read it. But maybe you should 2679 02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:16,480 Speaker 1: go to a terra beens. 2680 02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2681 02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, why why are we getting both halfs of this marriage? 2682 02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:24,600 Speaker 1: It seems Yeah, it took a foot one says their 2683 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:26,320 Speaker 1: lives are not aligned. Yeah, I think so. 2684 02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:31,280 Speaker 4: No, it's like that moon chart trends. 2685 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:34,400 Speaker 1: The moon chart like, oh like it fits your yeah 2686 02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:38,240 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Do people know about the moon art chart trend? 2687 02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Let let us know if you did. 2688 02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:41,839 Speaker 4: It was really funny because whenever people posted those videos, 2689 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,120 Speaker 4: they were like, look, we fit perfectly, and it was 2690 02:10:44,280 --> 02:10:47,000 Speaker 4: just overlapping, like it was. 2691 02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Just the moon. 2692 02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2693 02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,360 Speaker 1: But you know what I want to look at is 2694 02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:54,480 Speaker 1: these top comments. So cart Grinder says, yeah, even his 2695 02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:57,879 Speaker 1: post from his perspective made him look lazy and or selfish. 2696 02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I hope you have a pleasant vacation op and said. 2697 02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Lucy says, I knew this guy was gay. I mean 2698 02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:05,640 Speaker 1: I showed the other post to my husband. And told 2699 02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:07,840 Speaker 1: him that the friend was probably gay and the husband 2700 02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:10,360 Speaker 1: didn't know. He was like, I know who your gay 2701 02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:13,680 Speaker 1: friends are, and I answered telling him that he liked 2702 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,600 Speaker 1: me and wanted to go a place with me, unlike 2703 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:18,800 Speaker 1: that guy. I hope you have a great vacation, Ope, 2704 02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:22,160 Speaker 1: and zaf Fodd says, this is the update I've been 2705 02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:24,480 Speaker 1: looking for. Thank you. I hope you have a really 2706 02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:31,240 Speaker 1: enjoyable solo anniversary trip, which it seems like OPI will have. 2707 02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:33,800 Speaker 1: But you know what I want you to have, Sophia, 2708 02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:38,200 Speaker 1: This next story, this next story, we're gonna get into it, 2709 02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Sofia is going to be reading. But just look at 2710 02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:44,800 Speaker 1: some comments from y'all. Burning Roe said, never heard of it, 2711 02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:45,840 Speaker 1: loll the. 2712 02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,120 Speaker 4: Moon, It's just like a TikTok thing. 2713 02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, classic TikTok. Let's with their TikTok gen Z with 2714 02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:56,600 Speaker 1: their TikTok trends. Tody is young gen Z too, Gracie macisays, 2715 02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:59,320 Speaker 1: getting ready chickens, Yeah, we're freaking getting ready for this 2716 02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:03,160 Speaker 1: next story. And Innocent Star says both their posts make 2717 02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,400 Speaker 1: it sound like the husband would rather be alone than 2718 02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:09,040 Speaker 1: with his wife. That totally sounds true, and he does 2719 02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,600 Speaker 1: not sound innocent at all. But so via, do you 2720 02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:12,880 Speaker 1: want to hit me with this next story? 2721 02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:14,520 Speaker 4: I do want to hit you with this next story. 2722 02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,720 Speaker 4: I found out I was the mistress in college and 2723 02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:21,160 Speaker 4: he wanted to be my sugar daddy. I said no, 2724 02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:23,840 Speaker 4: but kept the motorcycle. Am I the a hole? 2725 02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I love the motorcycles? Yeah, and kept the motorcycle. Oh okay, 2726 02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I guess the sugar daddy is like giving motorcycles as 2727 02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:34,720 Speaker 1: a form of sugar daddy payment. 2728 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, okay, so yeah, he was like, here's 2729 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,320 Speaker 4: a motorcycle if you'll be my sugar baby, and she 2730 02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,360 Speaker 4: was like, no, but I'll take the motorcic. I'm gona 2731 02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:45,840 Speaker 4: keep the motorcle'll keep the motorcycle. 2732 02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:47,440 Speaker 2: Not that what he got? 2733 02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:48,080 Speaker 1: What do you got for us? 2734 02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:49,120 Speaker 5: Guess where this came from? 2735 02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:49,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 2736 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,640 Speaker 1: Is this an R slash okop show? 2737 02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:54,080 Speaker 2: Yo? 2738 02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:55,880 Speaker 4: I wonder if they're on right now? 2739 02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Who does it come from? 2740 02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:57,800 Speaker 5: What? 2741 02:12:58,040 --> 02:13:02,080 Speaker 1: What's the one done? Meleni one done? Millennial one done millennial? 2742 02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:05,360 Speaker 1: If you are in the chat right now, please let 2743 02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:10,080 Speaker 1: us know. Hopefully you're probably watching or listening so or 2744 02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,280 Speaker 1: at least at least at a later time. Yes, but 2745 02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:16,320 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's go. If you want to 2746 02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:18,240 Speaker 1: submit your story, go to our sash O Kop show 2747 02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:21,280 Speaker 1: or call us at four tour zero five or eight 2748 02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,080 Speaker 1: six five six seven. 2749 02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:27,120 Speaker 4: Yep, and let's get to the story. 2750 02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Let's get it. 2751 02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:30,440 Speaker 4: So I got it. So I got inspired by the 2752 02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:33,320 Speaker 4: show today to write about this experience from ten years ago. 2753 02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:38,000 Speaker 4: Buckle up, it is a bit long. Everyone, get your buckles. 2754 02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:40,480 Speaker 4: I went to college in a small Asian area. I 2755 02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:43,280 Speaker 4: am from the USA. Funnily enough, I actually moved to 2756 02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,480 Speaker 4: that area to be with my high school boyfriend who 2757 02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:48,440 Speaker 4: was from that country, but we broke up my freshman year. 2758 02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:51,000 Speaker 4: Crazy story there too. If you want that story later, 2759 02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:53,720 Speaker 4: we do. Anyway, I was in my third year of college, 2760 02:13:53,760 --> 02:13:56,000 Speaker 4: paying my way tutoring English on the side, as it 2761 02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:58,680 Speaker 4: was common way for expat college kids to make money there. 2762 02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:00,920 Speaker 4: I was heading to class one day when a man 2763 02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,600 Speaker 4: stopped me. This was not unusual, as many wanted to 2764 02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:06,240 Speaker 4: practice talking English with me as soon as they saw 2765 02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:08,240 Speaker 4: I was foreign. But this was the only But this 2766 02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:10,840 Speaker 4: was only the second time that the person actually wanted 2767 02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:13,360 Speaker 4: my number. I'm not a bad looking person, but I 2768 02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:17,520 Speaker 4: am not thin nor stereotypically attractive. I enjoy weightlifting and 2769 02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:20,440 Speaker 4: martial arts, and my one six, one hundred and sixty 2770 02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,240 Speaker 4: five center of your frame has been able to pick 2771 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:26,200 Speaker 4: up ninety two kilogram dad since I was eleven. Oh, 2772 02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:27,720 Speaker 4: you were able to pick up your dad. 2773 02:14:28,280 --> 02:14:29,000 Speaker 2: You're so strong. 2774 02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I think. I think op is saying I'm super hitting 2775 02:14:33,440 --> 02:14:34,280 Speaker 1: on her at eleven. 2776 02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:36,720 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, she's saying that. 2777 02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Repeat that line. 2778 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoy weightlifting and martial arts, and my one 2779 02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,800 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five center of your frame has been 2780 02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:46,760 Speaker 4: able to pick up my ninety two kilogram dad since 2781 02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:47,360 Speaker 4: I was eleven. 2782 02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you're so strong, able to pick up dads? 2783 02:14:52,720 --> 02:14:54,320 Speaker 4: Yes, muzzlemummy, so true. 2784 02:14:54,400 --> 02:14:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2785 02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:54,960 Speaker 1: Facts. 2786 02:14:55,480 --> 02:14:57,280 Speaker 4: So I ended up agreeing to meet up with this 2787 02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:00,160 Speaker 4: man for lunch one day between classes. He looked a 2788 02:15:00,200 --> 02:15:02,360 Speaker 4: little older, but anyone who has spent time in Asia 2789 02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:04,520 Speaker 4: and knows it's very hard to tell age and gender. 2790 02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:06,760 Speaker 4: Even I have two stories on that, but my friends 2791 02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:09,640 Speaker 4: have better ones. So this was where the red flags 2792 02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:12,760 Speaker 4: would start and never stop. But my dumb college self 2793 02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:15,440 Speaker 4: was being an idiot. On the first meeting, he wants 2794 02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:17,440 Speaker 4: to take his car to the restaurant from my college. 2795 02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:19,600 Speaker 4: I knew this was suspicious to hop in a car 2796 02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:20,320 Speaker 4: with a stranger. 2797 02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:24,560 Speaker 1: But I already yeah super suspicious. Wait wait wait with 2798 02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:25,720 Speaker 1: a stranger dude. 2799 02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:28,760 Speaker 4: Okay, but I already had my second black belt at 2800 02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:29,120 Speaker 4: the time. 2801 02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:32,720 Speaker 1: Sop. He is a muscle bomby, as Jem said. 2802 02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,520 Speaker 4: Oh, he's like I could handle myself. I could take 2803 02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:37,040 Speaker 4: a man down with two moves. 2804 02:15:37,120 --> 02:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could pick up all these dats. 2805 02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. When we parked and walked towards a restaurant, it 2806 02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:44,440 Speaker 4: kept feeling like his hand would knock into my butt 2807 02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,400 Speaker 4: ew It was weird. But the sidewalks are small, and 2808 02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:51,120 Speaker 4: I am not I think he I you know, I. 2809 02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Don't know if you're big enough. I don't know if 2810 02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:55,920 Speaker 1: your ass so thick that it takes up the whole 2811 02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:58,400 Speaker 1: sidewalk that he can't help but bump his hands like. 2812 02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, sorry. 2813 02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:05,600 Speaker 4: Anyway, it all seemed to go well, so I agreed 2814 02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:06,840 Speaker 4: to meet him again. A week later. 2815 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:09,360 Speaker 1: It's going well him this old man touching your booty. 2816 02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2817 02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 2818 02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:13,320 Speaker 4: This time he took me to love hotel. 2819 02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's like a like a japan. 2820 02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:18,760 Speaker 4: Thing, right, I don't know anything about it. 2821 02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:20,880 Speaker 1: If you know what a love hotel is. Put in 2822 02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the comments, I think I've. 2823 02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:25,960 Speaker 4: Heard of it, but I don't know exactly, but claimed 2824 02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,960 Speaker 4: it was because we could sing karaoke in private there. 2825 02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to Love Hotel for the karaoke. It 2826 02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:34,360 Speaker 1: like I'm going to the strip club for the hot wings. 2827 02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:39,640 Speaker 4: Honestly should have ducked out then, but I made it 2828 02:16:39,720 --> 02:16:42,320 Speaker 4: clear nothing was happening that day, though he still tried 2829 02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:45,160 Speaker 4: a few times. I didn't hurt him, but was for 2830 02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:48,160 Speaker 4: She's like, I didn't use any of. 2831 02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:51,480 Speaker 1: My black Yeah, it was on lethal weapons. 2832 02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:53,000 Speaker 4: I made it pretty clear. 2833 02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Where was it. 2834 02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:58,440 Speaker 4: Oh. At this point I had asked his age and 2835 02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:00,680 Speaker 4: he claimed he was twenty nine, and I would have 2836 02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:03,560 Speaker 4: guessed early to mid thirties, but I have embarrassed myself 2837 02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:06,000 Speaker 4: before guessing too old. It was like that John Mulaney 2838 02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:09,119 Speaker 4: snl skit where he's like, yeah, I get tired going 2839 02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:13,000 Speaker 4: on thirty six that one. I did end up caving 2840 02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:15,520 Speaker 4: the next time he met, almost a week later though stupid, 2841 02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,480 Speaker 4: I know, but he did kind of spoil me and 2842 02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:20,080 Speaker 4: we texted a lot. The next time we met, he 2843 02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:22,320 Speaker 4: ended up at my place, but he didn't stay the night, 2844 02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:24,680 Speaker 4: even though I offered. At the time, I thought maybe 2845 02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:26,920 Speaker 4: he was still scared of my cat. He had jumped 2846 02:17:26,920 --> 02:17:28,280 Speaker 4: on the couch when he first saw her. 2847 02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Why hat man, just like so frail sounding. Yeah, it 2848 02:17:33,360 --> 02:17:35,160 Speaker 1: was like I was firm. I didn't hurt him though. 2849 02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:37,160 Speaker 1: He was scared of my cat. But don't worry. The 2850 02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:38,000 Speaker 1: cat didn't heurt of either. 2851 02:17:38,080 --> 02:17:41,680 Speaker 4: The cat also knows black but that's true black belt cat. Yeah, yeah, 2852 02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:42,960 Speaker 4: you don't know. You don't know. 2853 02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:46,920 Speaker 1: It's like that cat in Kung Fu Panda, the snow leopard. Man, 2854 02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:49,959 Speaker 1: it's not a cat snow so it is a big cat. 2855 02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:50,640 Speaker 4: It's a big cat. 2856 02:17:50,720 --> 02:17:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a cat. 2857 02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:52,120 Speaker 2: You know what. 2858 02:17:52,480 --> 02:17:54,960 Speaker 1: Hey, I know my cat knowledge. It is a big cat. 2859 02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:55,560 Speaker 1: You're right, you're so. 2860 02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:56,040 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. 2861 02:17:56,080 --> 02:17:58,880 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. Then I didn't hear for then I 2862 02:17:58,920 --> 02:17:59,320 Speaker 4: didn't he. 2863 02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Could he said, Macca says he can't handle the pussy. 2864 02:18:02,959 --> 02:18:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a. 2865 02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Nice one. 2866 02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Then I didn't hear from him for three days, and 2867 02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:14,240 Speaker 4: I was pretty upset. When we got back in touch. 2868 02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:16,240 Speaker 4: He claimed it was a business trip, so he got 2869 02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:18,240 Speaker 4: scared of the can and then he ghosted her. 2870 02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:18,760 Speaker 2: For three days. 2871 02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:21,800 Speaker 4: Okay, I guess, but he said he was. 2872 02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:23,960 Speaker 1: He said, I mean he could legitimately be on a 2873 02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:25,959 Speaker 1: business yeah, I mean three days. 2874 02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:28,080 Speaker 4: I was on a business trip, but he wasn't texting her. 2875 02:18:28,400 --> 02:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't respond to people for multiple days. 2876 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:32,439 Speaker 4: But that's just you because you're bad at responding. 2877 02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2878 02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:36,199 Speaker 4: We met up this time because he was curious about 2879 02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,280 Speaker 4: my motorcycle and he wanted to try riding it. Oh 2880 02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:42,800 Speaker 4: he sounds you. This is one of the okop fans. Yeah, 2881 02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:47,080 Speaker 4: you sound so cool, I know, like black like the 2882 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,680 Speaker 4: more that you you got a motorcycle, you're so cool. Like, uh, okay. 2883 02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:55,959 Speaker 4: We met up this time because he was curious about 2884 02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,160 Speaker 4: my motorcycle and he wanted to try riding it. It 2885 02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,320 Speaker 4: was a twenty year old one hundred and fifty cc, 2886 02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:02,840 Speaker 4: so if something happened, it wasn't that big a deal, 2887 02:19:02,959 --> 02:19:05,240 Speaker 4: so I agreed. We hung out for a bit while 2888 02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:08,080 Speaker 4: I taught him how to ride. Like two days later, though, 2889 02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:10,920 Speaker 4: my motorcycle's engine broke down and could only be fixed 2890 02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:13,280 Speaker 4: by replacing the engine. I did not have that kind 2891 02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:15,680 Speaker 4: of money, so guess who comes in to buy me 2892 02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:18,560 Speaker 4: a new motorcycle with everything in my. 2893 02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Can't help? Boy. 2894 02:19:25,879 --> 02:19:28,360 Speaker 4: It was just another little one hundred and fifty cc, 2895 02:19:28,640 --> 02:19:30,960 Speaker 4: but it was brand new, so I was half in 2896 02:19:31,080 --> 02:19:33,080 Speaker 4: love even though I only knew this guy for like 2897 02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:37,080 Speaker 4: three weeks. This is when everything starts going to a 2898 02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:41,880 Speaker 4: real Are we allowed to swear on this swear? Oh 2899 02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:47,400 Speaker 4: my god? You know he now starts talking about how 2900 02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:49,760 Speaker 4: he prefers dogs to cats, so I should get rid 2901 02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:51,440 Speaker 4: of my cat so he can get me a dog. 2902 02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:55,120 Speaker 4: That's weird. I adopted her from the shelter and she 2903 02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:56,199 Speaker 4: was blind. 2904 02:19:58,360 --> 02:19:59,840 Speaker 1: And she's still knew CROs. 2905 02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:03,720 Speaker 4: Then he thinks my flat is too far away, small 2906 02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:06,760 Speaker 4: and cheap. I am, I'm in college overseas, so duh. 2907 02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:08,920 Speaker 1: And he's like, I will get you a new flat. 2908 02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah no, yeah, so he wants to buy me a 2909 02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:15,160 Speaker 4: flat in the city. At this point, bye bye. So 2910 02:20:15,280 --> 02:20:17,520 Speaker 4: he's got he's got a new motorcycle. He's trying to 2911 02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:19,279 Speaker 4: get rid of the cat, which is weird. 2912 02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:21,119 Speaker 1: How rich is this dude? 2913 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:24,400 Speaker 4: He's got money. He hasn't got muscles, but he's got money. 2914 02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2915 02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:27,440 Speaker 1: What he lacks and muscles and courage he makes up 2916 02:20:27,520 --> 02:20:28,760 Speaker 1: for dollar bells. 2917 02:20:30,280 --> 02:20:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he wants to buy me a flat in 2918 02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:34,480 Speaker 4: the city. At this point, alarm bells are ringing in 2919 02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:37,640 Speaker 4: my head because who does this Three weeks into knowing a. 2920 02:20:37,640 --> 02:20:39,240 Speaker 1: Person, dude, like a billionaire. 2921 02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:43,080 Speaker 4: A billionaire. So I confront him. Turns out he's forty 2922 02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:44,000 Speaker 4: one and married. 2923 02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:46,400 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 2924 02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, get yeah, get get all the things you 2925 02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:54,440 Speaker 4: can get. Well the motorcycles in her name, which you 2926 02:20:54,520 --> 02:21:00,480 Speaker 4: know might season why that's importantly, He colors, Sorry, I 2927 02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:01,640 Speaker 4: see you in the comments. 2928 02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:03,080 Speaker 1: But I see you in the comments, and you see 2929 02:21:03,080 --> 02:21:03,520 Speaker 1: what's coming. 2930 02:21:03,640 --> 02:21:04,000 Speaker 4: I see it. 2931 02:21:04,120 --> 02:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Also, do you think he's going to get the flat? 2932 02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:09,160 Speaker 4: I hope so, I don't. I think it might be too. 2933 02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:11,160 Speaker 4: I think that was what we talked about. 2934 02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:13,240 Speaker 1: I feel. But also it's like, no free lunch. You 2935 02:21:13,280 --> 02:21:15,480 Speaker 1: don't just get a flat for free. 2936 02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:16,840 Speaker 4: You got a motorcycle? 2937 02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you get a motorcycle over eve, no flat. 2938 02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:23,039 Speaker 4: Yeah. He claims he hasn't been sleeping with his wife 2939 02:21:23,080 --> 02:21:25,360 Speaker 4: since meeting me, and that I'm the only girl for him. 2940 02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I swear I haven't been cheating on you with my wife. 2941 02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:34,480 Speaker 4: Yeah right, buddy. I immediately break up with him, and 2942 02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:36,120 Speaker 4: you would think that would be the end, but no, 2943 02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:38,560 Speaker 4: he decides the best way to try to get me 2944 02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:40,880 Speaker 4: back is to stalk me for the next five months. 2945 02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:44,840 Speaker 4: Why would you stalk a black belt? That's silly. 2946 02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Your nose broken. Yeah, would stalk? I think that's my 2947 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:53,720 Speaker 1: favorite Sophia quote. Why would you stock get on her shirt? 2948 02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2949 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:58,400 Speaker 4: No, this man is crazy. So he got Oh where 2950 02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,840 Speaker 4: was I? So he just I stupidly thought the breakup 2951 02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:03,280 Speaker 4: was the end of it, so I didn't tell the 2952 02:22:03,320 --> 02:22:05,480 Speaker 4: guards at my flat right away not to let him in. 2953 02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:09,280 Speaker 4: So he got into my flat one night and tried 2954 02:22:09,320 --> 02:22:10,960 Speaker 4: to get me to have sex with him again by 2955 02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:14,760 Speaker 4: stripping down and chasing me. He just assaulted you. That's horrible. 2956 02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Bro use some of that karate chop his bick off. 2957 02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:20,920 Speaker 4: I back kicked him, broke his rib, and then locked 2958 02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:23,000 Speaker 4: myself in my room with my cat till he left me. 2959 02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:29,960 Speaker 4: I yes, very badass. Also, I'm so sorry that happened 2960 02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:34,400 Speaker 4: you because that fully assaulted you. Yeah, that's horrible, but 2961 02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:39,440 Speaker 4: I'm glad you Yeah, yeah, okay, very strong. Yeah no, 2962 02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:42,200 Speaker 4: this is I hope he goes to jail. I immediately 2963 02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:44,720 Speaker 4: told the guards not to let him in anymore after that. 2964 02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:47,360 Speaker 4: So he started leaving presents on my motorbike, the one 2965 02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:50,440 Speaker 4: he bought, yes, and showing up at my college he 2966 02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:53,920 Speaker 4: even brought. He even bought himself a Honda CBR six 2967 02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:56,800 Speaker 4: hundred to try to impress me and offered to let 2968 02:22:56,840 --> 02:23:00,000 Speaker 4: me ride it. Yeah, no, thanks, buddy. I finally got 2969 02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:01,840 Speaker 4: him to stop while I was at my agents. 2970 02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I feel like a broken rib would be enough of 2971 02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:07,000 Speaker 1: a signal like, hey, I'm not interested. 2972 02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:11,320 Speaker 4: Well, no, this guy is horrible person and obviously preditor. Yeah, 2973 02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:12,080 Speaker 4: very much so. 2974 02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:15,080 Speaker 1: I think this is probably what I can't imagine. OPI 2975 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,840 Speaker 1: is the first person that he's done this too. 2976 02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:20,760 Speaker 4: No, No, he like has a wife and he's probably 2977 02:23:20,879 --> 02:23:24,040 Speaker 4: like kind of you know, going after these young college girls, 2978 02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:27,200 Speaker 4: it seems, and it just it. Fortunately, Opie is is 2979 02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:29,240 Speaker 4: a black belt, a black belt, you know, so he 2980 02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:31,240 Speaker 4: can't do that. But no, this is horrible. 2981 02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:33,080 Speaker 1: He needs to break more than his ribs. 2982 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jesus. I finally got him to stop. While 2983 02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:42,080 Speaker 4: I was at my agents. She set me up with 2984 02:23:42,120 --> 02:23:45,359 Speaker 4: tutoring jobs and another tutor was there. I was complaining 2985 02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:47,720 Speaker 4: to them about the guy, and the other tutor offered 2986 02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:50,160 Speaker 4: to take a picture together like we were dating. The 2987 02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:52,120 Speaker 4: guy didn't believe it at first, but only kept up 2988 02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,280 Speaker 4: the Shenanigans for another week, So that was the end 2989 02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:56,800 Speaker 4: of it. I sold the motorbike when I graduated and 2990 02:23:56,920 --> 02:23:59,440 Speaker 4: left the country. I never tried to find or tell 2991 02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:01,920 Speaker 4: his wife, and not because I didn't want to. But 2992 02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:04,240 Speaker 4: in certain countries, including the area I was in, the 2993 02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:07,279 Speaker 4: wife cannot sue or divorce her husband with the reason 2994 02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:10,720 Speaker 4: and cheating. Oh wow, she can, however, sue the mistress, 2995 02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:13,000 Speaker 4: so I was advised to not try to find her 2996 02:24:13,080 --> 02:24:14,720 Speaker 4: in case she decided to blame me. 2997 02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:15,920 Speaker 2: That is whack. 2998 02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:17,720 Speaker 1: There's some whack laws right there. 2999 02:24:17,800 --> 02:24:20,680 Speaker 4: That's horrible. I know it has been ten years, but 3000 02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:22,680 Speaker 4: I hope she found out what a piece of garbage 3001 02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:24,039 Speaker 4: she is and left his ass. 3002 02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:25,320 Speaker 2: Dang. 3003 02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that is rough. Okay, I mean, uh one, how 3004 02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:31,480 Speaker 1: how do you think you avoid situations like this? But 3005 02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:34,320 Speaker 1: your answers in the comments, I would love to hear 3006 02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:38,320 Speaker 1: what you should do? But that is like like and 3007 02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:41,400 Speaker 1: and do we know what country? Ope's in Japan? 3008 02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:42,720 Speaker 4: He did not say it. 3009 02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:46,200 Speaker 1: Probably not. It isn't Japan. I can't imagine Japan's divorce 3010 02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:46,880 Speaker 1: laws are like that. 3011 02:24:47,240 --> 02:24:50,520 Speaker 4: No, they didn't say they just a small Asian area. 3012 02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:52,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we don't know. If I wonder if there's 3013 02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:55,640 Speaker 1: anyone have any guesses what country this could be? And 3014 02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:58,440 Speaker 1: it's also I would does anyone have any sugar Daddy 3015 02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:02,360 Speaker 1: stories stories. I remember this girl in college got like 3016 02:25:02,600 --> 02:25:05,600 Speaker 1: like one of my I lived with an ex girlfriend 3017 02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:08,240 Speaker 1: for like a year in college, and so we had 3018 02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:10,720 Speaker 1: all these other girls that were living with us, and 3019 02:25:11,480 --> 02:25:13,760 Speaker 1: one of the girls had this is okay story time. 3020 02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:17,080 Speaker 1: One of the girls literally got everything paid for by 3021 02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:20,720 Speaker 1: her sugar Daddy, like everything, and got a monthly allowance 3022 02:25:20,760 --> 02:25:23,680 Speaker 1: of like two grand. Wow. Yeah, isn't crazy crazy? 3023 02:25:23,959 --> 02:25:27,200 Speaker 4: See, I feel like the benefits of sugar Daddy being 3024 02:25:27,320 --> 02:25:30,280 Speaker 4: seem nice, but I just don't think I could. I mean, 3025 02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:31,840 Speaker 4: I'm an actor. I don't think I could act that. 3026 02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:33,040 Speaker 1: You can act that. 3027 02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:35,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, dude, I don't think I could do that. 3028 02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:38,560 Speaker 1: But wait, I want to see. So Zodiac says China. 3029 02:25:38,320 --> 02:25:41,080 Speaker 4: Could be someone other persons of South Korea because you 3030 02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:42,480 Speaker 4: can sue the mistress. 3031 02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:46,360 Speaker 1: And then Eric says, f y, there is an update 3032 02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:49,080 Speaker 1: to the wife abandoning op and traveling around the world 3033 02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:53,600 Speaker 1: because she thought she was going to get dementia. This 3034 02:25:53,800 --> 02:25:56,200 Speaker 1: last story that we read, oh at the anniversary, I 3035 02:25:56,240 --> 02:25:59,560 Speaker 1: think for this, I think, And then Sydney says, why 3036 02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:00,760 Speaker 1: can't she at a restraining order? 3037 02:26:00,879 --> 02:26:01,600 Speaker 4: That's what I was wondering. 3038 02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:02,879 Speaker 1: I think it's because of the country. 3039 02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:06,039 Speaker 4: It might be the country specifically, because this all feels 3040 02:26:06,080 --> 02:26:08,879 Speaker 4: like things that you know, at least here you could. 3041 02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could get a restraining order. 3042 02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:12,160 Speaker 4: You know, you get a restraining order even well, I 3043 02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:13,720 Speaker 4: mean that's grounds for going to the police. 3044 02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, definitely I have grounds for Sophia. 3045 02:26:19,360 --> 02:26:22,440 Speaker 1: That was a weird lead in this reading. Next story, 3046 02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:26,160 Speaker 1: give me that phone, no the red flag? All right, 3047 02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:30,200 Speaker 1: let us hit this next story. I'm so glad everyone 3048 02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:32,200 Speaker 1: is here on the Live. By the way, the call 3049 02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,560 Speaker 1: in number I crave Fried Chicken is four for zero 3050 02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,400 Speaker 1: five zero eight six by six hundred. And also we're 3051 02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:40,480 Speaker 1: at five hundred and ninety four people on the between 3052 02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:45,280 Speaker 1: like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitch. So if let's let's see 3053 02:26:45,360 --> 02:26:47,160 Speaker 1: if we can get to six hundred. So stay on 3054 02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:50,960 Speaker 1: the line because we got some more juicy stories for you. 3055 02:26:51,879 --> 02:26:54,360 Speaker 1: This is today. I afked up by telling my girlfriend 3056 02:26:54,560 --> 02:27:00,960 Speaker 1: I knew she cheated on me Juicy, Juicy Juicy, approximately 3057 02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:03,400 Speaker 1: six years ago. I was laughing about it with my 3058 02:27:03,480 --> 02:27:07,880 Speaker 1: friend today, who recommended that I posted here, So let's 3059 02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:08,680 Speaker 1: all laugh at it. 3060 02:27:09,560 --> 02:27:12,120 Speaker 4: I am not cold, I'm sorry, I'm just just sitting 3061 02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:14,280 Speaker 4: like that someone asked if I was cool. Yeah, it's 3062 02:27:14,320 --> 02:27:14,920 Speaker 4: actually quite hot. 3063 02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm actually burning up in this butter. And then 3064 02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Riley after this story, maybe John can sub for me 3065 02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:25,560 Speaker 1: because I need to eat, y'all. So flashback to undergrad. 3066 02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,600 Speaker 1: Things are good and I just started dating this beautiful 3067 02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:31,840 Speaker 1: girl that I had met in class. I was enamored 3068 02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:34,400 Speaker 1: with her, shocked that I loved her so fast, and 3069 02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:37,840 Speaker 1: amazed that she even wanted to date me. The first 3070 02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:41,080 Speaker 1: months are amazing. We can't keep our hands off of 3071 02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:43,800 Speaker 1: each other and never seem to be sick of each 3072 02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:47,160 Speaker 1: other's company. After a few months into our relationship, I 3073 02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:53,320 Speaker 1: started to notice some concerning symptoms, as you can probably hypothesize. 3074 02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:56,520 Speaker 1: When I peeded, it burned. 3075 02:27:57,160 --> 02:27:59,440 Speaker 4: Oh oh man, yeah, wakes. 3076 02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:01,320 Speaker 1: You want that to be gone. 3077 02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:03,280 Speaker 4: You should go to the doctor about that. 3078 02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:06,160 Speaker 1: Us gone rhea. At first, I just assumed it must 3079 02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:08,280 Speaker 1: have been something weird to my diet. To be sure, 3080 02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:12,280 Speaker 1: I decided to stop taking creatine just in case. But 3081 02:28:12,400 --> 02:28:14,959 Speaker 1: as time went on a few days later, the burning 3082 02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:16,440 Speaker 1: became unbearable. 3083 02:28:17,040 --> 02:28:17,400 Speaker 4: Yikes. 3084 02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Love is a burning thing, yeah, and it makes a 3085 02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:26,320 Speaker 1: fiery sting. I would literally be struggling to stand while 3086 02:28:26,320 --> 02:28:30,000 Speaker 1: I peeded because the pain was so intense. After I 3087 02:28:30,040 --> 02:28:32,240 Speaker 1: would literally lay in my bed in the fetal position 3088 02:28:32,440 --> 02:28:35,440 Speaker 1: until the pain subsided. It was bad. Oh you go 3089 02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:36,080 Speaker 1: to a doctor. 3090 02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:37,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 3091 02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Well, at least this point, I was no longer convinced 3092 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:43,120 Speaker 1: that my diet was causing the symptoms. No, it had 3093 02:28:43,160 --> 02:28:48,680 Speaker 1: to be what I thought was unfathomable. My girlfriend must 3094 02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:49,520 Speaker 1: have cheated on me. 3095 02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:50,039 Speaker 4: Yikes. 3096 02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you think in the situation. 3097 02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:54,480 Speaker 4: Well, I would have gone to the doctor right away. 3098 02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your put your curiosity to rest. Just find 3099 02:28:58,440 --> 02:29:02,200 Speaker 1: out under score fifty five Nope, had to be a uti. 3100 02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:04,920 Speaker 1: It could be a UTI. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have 3101 02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:05,800 Speaker 1: to be cheating. 3102 02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:11,320 Speaker 4: That it's true. Yeah, but you can only find out 3103 02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:12,080 Speaker 4: if you go to the doctor. 3104 02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:13,080 Speaker 2: Go to the doctor. 3105 02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:15,920 Speaker 4: Op it tested regardless, even if it was like something 3106 02:29:15,959 --> 02:29:18,160 Speaker 4: in your diet. I feel like, if if it was concous, 3107 02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:18,680 Speaker 4: just go. 3108 02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:19,240 Speaker 2: To a doctor. 3109 02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:21,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't been with anyone else. I hadn't been with 3110 02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:24,880 Speaker 1: anyone else since I began pursuing her months before we 3111 02:29:24,920 --> 02:29:29,520 Speaker 1: became exclusive. I was shocked. Things seemed to be so perfect. 3112 02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,800 Speaker 1: She seemed like such a good person. Where had I 3113 02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:38,680 Speaker 1: gone wrong? The thought made my blood boil until I 3114 02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:42,080 Speaker 1: outright confronted her. I told her I knew she must 3115 02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:44,800 Speaker 1: have been unfaithful because of my symptoms and asked her 3116 02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:50,920 Speaker 1: if she had similar symptoms. She told me no. Yeah. 3117 02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Someone asked, is it koalape again? We had a story 3118 02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:56,720 Speaker 1: about koala is peeing on some line. What do you 3119 02:29:56,760 --> 02:29:58,480 Speaker 1: guys think it is? Put your answer to the comments. 3120 02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:03,039 Speaker 1: Way actually a conspiracy theories? Okay, what do you think? 3121 02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:03,240 Speaker 2: For you? 3122 02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:06,200 Speaker 4: Wait, so he did he say that he has gone 3123 02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:06,959 Speaker 4: to the doctor yet or. 3124 02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:08,560 Speaker 1: Hasn't gone a doctor. He's about to figure it find 3125 02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:08,880 Speaker 1: it out though? 3126 02:30:09,879 --> 02:30:11,760 Speaker 4: Uh oh after going What do you mean. 3127 02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:14,440 Speaker 1: He hasn't found out yet what it is? 3128 02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:14,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 3129 02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:16,680 Speaker 4: From the Okay? Okay, Yeah, I think you got to 3130 02:30:16,760 --> 02:30:19,560 Speaker 4: wait until you get your stuff back from the doctor 3131 02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:21,440 Speaker 4: before you go accusing anyone. 3132 02:30:21,879 --> 02:30:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a It could be an urinary 3133 02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:27,320 Speaker 1: track infection. It could it could be an SDD. It 3134 02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:31,240 Speaker 1: could just be like I don't know, acid p is 3135 02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:31,880 Speaker 1: the place. 3136 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Who knows? 3137 02:30:32,600 --> 02:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a million things. The only way 3138 02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:35,800 Speaker 1: to truly know is go to a doctor. 3139 02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 3140 02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:38,920 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Put your answers in the 3141 02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:42,400 Speaker 1: comments but we're gonna go back to a reality. April says, 3142 02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:44,680 Speaker 1: it could be a kidney infection. So, yeah, there's a 3143 02:30:44,720 --> 02:30:47,280 Speaker 1: bunch of things that gave things so many things. So 3144 02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:51,600 Speaker 1: she told me, no, I don't have the same symptoms. 3145 02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:53,360 Speaker 1: I demanded that she come with me to a clinic, 3146 02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:55,680 Speaker 1: that we both take a test and share results, and 3147 02:30:55,760 --> 02:30:56,360 Speaker 1: she said sure. 3148 02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:01,879 Speaker 4: She seems too calm for, you know, her to actually 3149 02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:02,360 Speaker 4: be cheating. 3150 02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:05,600 Speaker 1: So you think it is not a red flag? You 3151 02:31:05,680 --> 02:31:09,840 Speaker 1: think that her saying sure is a green flag. 3152 02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:14,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't think she cheated personally. 3153 02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Because I think she's so down to go. Yeah, yeah, 3154 02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:20,800 Speaker 1: she's lazy. Fine, So we agreed to go the next day. 3155 02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:24,200 Speaker 1: Looking back at this, I feel like a complete dick. 3156 02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:27,520 Speaker 1: Maybe some foreshadowing. The same night I confront of my girlfriend, 3157 02:31:27,600 --> 02:31:29,880 Speaker 1: my roommate's girlfriend came over to stay at our place. 3158 02:31:30,320 --> 02:31:32,040 Speaker 1: She was being nice and went to do some of 3159 02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:35,360 Speaker 1: the dishes for us. Around the time, my roommates and 3160 02:31:35,440 --> 02:31:38,200 Speaker 1: I had just moved into the new house. In the 3161 02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:43,200 Speaker 1: process of all of her belongings getting shuffled around, she 3162 02:31:43,360 --> 02:31:47,440 Speaker 1: went to get some dish washing pods and exclaimed, why 3163 02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:53,240 Speaker 1: are you guys washing your dishes with laundry detergent. I 3164 02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:59,520 Speaker 1: heard that and it clicked, Holy shit, I've been pissing 3165 02:31:59,560 --> 02:32:00,440 Speaker 1: out each. 3166 02:32:01,959 --> 02:32:02,760 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 3167 02:32:03,080 --> 02:32:06,359 Speaker 1: I instantly felt ashamed and immediately apologized to my girlfriend. 3168 02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:08,640 Speaker 1: She took it really well, laughed at the situation, and 3169 02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:11,160 Speaker 1: we forgot about it. Sure Enough, a few days later, 3170 02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:14,160 Speaker 1: after our dishes slash cups were no longer saturated with 3171 02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:17,640 Speaker 1: bleach residue, my symptoms disappeared. 3172 02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:19,240 Speaker 4: He was micro doosing bleach. 3173 02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:23,400 Speaker 1: Micro dosing bleach, which I've heard, Wow, is not very healthy. 3174 02:32:24,800 --> 02:32:26,920 Speaker 4: I heard that's not very good. I'm not a doctor. 3175 02:32:27,680 --> 02:32:29,280 Speaker 1: A doctor, I mean, it's not very good for you. 3176 02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:32,200 Speaker 1: It could be a you know, a cool trend that 3177 02:32:32,480 --> 02:32:35,200 Speaker 1: the kids are doing these days, you know microsa Yeah, 3178 02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, like how like all the kids they're like, 3179 02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:41,320 Speaker 1: oh like, let's uh uh eat tide pods. 3180 02:32:41,480 --> 02:32:43,600 Speaker 2: Let's micro dos b Actually did that? Who? 3181 02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:46,160 Speaker 4: Actually? I feel like that was sensationalized? 3182 02:32:46,400 --> 02:32:47,560 Speaker 1: What tie pods? 3183 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3184 02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I seeing it all over TikTok exactly. 3185 02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:53,240 Speaker 4: Everything on TikTok is sensationalized. 3186 02:32:53,360 --> 02:32:56,920 Speaker 1: No, everything on TikTok is true and nothing but the 3187 02:32:57,040 --> 02:32:59,720 Speaker 1: true sofia. But leave the TikTok said bleach. 3188 02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:01,640 Speaker 4: Maxim, I just want I don't know if you guys 3189 02:33:01,680 --> 02:33:04,440 Speaker 4: have seen the Curtis Connor Look Mac, look Mac. I 3190 02:33:04,480 --> 02:33:07,920 Speaker 4: can't speak Max in video. It's like this thing on 3191 02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:12,320 Speaker 4: TikTok where people are just trying to look better but 3192 02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:17,280 Speaker 4: with makeup. No, like they're doing like jaw exercise. Yeah, 3193 02:33:17,400 --> 02:33:17,879 Speaker 4: the mewing. 3194 02:33:20,920 --> 02:33:22,080 Speaker 1: Do we look mute beautiful? 3195 02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 3196 02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:27,080 Speaker 1: That yeah? I think that That is why you don't 3197 02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:31,720 Speaker 1: jump to conclusions before seeing it, Octor. But Sophia, you 3198 02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:33,440 Speaker 1: know what you should see right now. 3199 02:33:33,760 --> 02:33:35,600 Speaker 4: You could have said you know what you should jump to. 3200 02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:37,640 Speaker 1: You know what you should jump through? There go this 3201 02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:38,280 Speaker 1: next door? 3202 02:33:39,320 --> 02:33:39,720 Speaker 2: All right? 3203 02:33:39,879 --> 02:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Here you go? 3204 02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:41,440 Speaker 4: Are you John? 3205 02:33:41,640 --> 02:33:43,720 Speaker 1: This is a thick, juicy one. If John wants to 3206 02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:47,360 Speaker 1: come in and relieve me so I can eat. I 3207 02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:50,480 Speaker 1: have been doing this for like hours and hours. I 3208 02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:54,360 Speaker 1: haven't peeded. I haven't eaten the things we sacrifice for you, 3209 02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:57,400 Speaker 1: and we love doing it. But I I really I 3210 02:33:57,520 --> 02:33:59,760 Speaker 1: need to go to the bathroom. So if John can, 3211 02:34:00,040 --> 02:34:01,880 Speaker 1: you could start reading, Sofia, because we didn't get into 3212 02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:04,000 Speaker 1: this next door because the live stream death that stopped. 3213 02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:06,039 Speaker 1: Y'all stop. 3214 02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:12,280 Speaker 4: Right now, let's go hold on hold on. There is 3215 02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:14,760 Speaker 4: a little skit that I guess someone wrote where it 3216 02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:17,520 Speaker 4: says John, you know what's worse than cyberbuwling? 3217 02:34:17,959 --> 02:34:18,279 Speaker 2: Sam? 3218 02:34:19,440 --> 02:34:22,360 Speaker 4: Insert Sam improv I don't know. 3219 02:34:22,520 --> 02:34:27,320 Speaker 1: What's worse than cyber bowling. No, cy cybercheating. 3220 02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:28,600 Speaker 4: No, you didn't do the impress. 3221 02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:31,960 Speaker 1: And with that, I think I have to cheat on 3222 02:34:32,200 --> 02:34:35,800 Speaker 1: my co host by go snacking on some food. So 3223 02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:38,920 Speaker 1: John comes suing to me, it's about to start this. 3224 02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:44,160 Speaker 4: Next door, someone says they did their dishes with chlorine 3225 02:34:44,240 --> 02:34:45,920 Speaker 4: and my pe doesn't burn. I don't know if you 3226 02:34:45,959 --> 02:34:46,720 Speaker 4: should be doing that. 3227 02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:50,880 Speaker 5: Wait, I'm sorry, John. Do you sit there? Should you 3228 02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:52,960 Speaker 5: sit where Sophia is? Because this hurts my head? 3229 02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:01,440 Speaker 1: Just thank you little musical chairs. Also, you can see 3230 02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:04,879 Speaker 1: we all live together, we're all in all in the same. 3231 02:35:04,959 --> 02:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Sam's gonna get a ut I here soon. Why would 3232 02:35:07,480 --> 02:35:08,680 Speaker 1: you put that into the universe? 3233 02:35:09,720 --> 02:35:18,320 Speaker 4: Knocking was I'm knocking on the doubly So that's not everyone, Sophia. 3234 02:35:18,760 --> 02:35:19,160 Speaker 4: What's up? 3235 02:35:19,280 --> 02:35:19,880 Speaker 3: How's it been going? 3236 02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:22,920 Speaker 4: It's been going well. Just did the skit that someone wrote? 3237 02:35:23,320 --> 02:35:25,039 Speaker 3: Nice? Oh that's amazing. 3238 02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:27,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're here, here, here, we'll do it again. Because 3239 02:35:27,760 --> 02:35:29,320 Speaker 4: Sam did a horrible chump. 3240 02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:32,680 Speaker 2: All right, let's try this the real way, y'all. You 3241 02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:35,560 Speaker 2: know what's worse than cyberbillying? I don't know. 3242 02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:44,359 Speaker 4: Uh, cyber tech, No, cyber. 3243 02:35:44,200 --> 02:35:47,120 Speaker 3: Cheating, and let me tell you all about it. 3244 02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:48,960 Speaker 4: You can only think of cyber rats, which is a 3245 02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:49,800 Speaker 4: doctor who's right? 3246 02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, pirting, pirate, cyber pirting. 3247 02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:54,480 Speaker 4: Cyber which cyber Wait? 3248 02:35:54,720 --> 02:36:01,200 Speaker 2: Wait done, dun dun. Okay. So this next story, which 3249 02:36:01,200 --> 02:36:04,560 Speaker 2: we're about to get into, right, yes, yes it is. 3250 02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:07,880 Speaker 2: My wife is texting her classmate every day and spending 3251 02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:09,039 Speaker 2: lots of time with him. 3252 02:36:09,280 --> 02:36:09,920 Speaker 1: What should I do? 3253 02:36:10,240 --> 02:36:12,720 Speaker 2: This is Okayop, we read the craziest true stories on 3254 02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:17,280 Speaker 2: Earth again, I'm John, this is Sofia, Sofia. What should 3255 02:36:17,320 --> 02:36:20,360 Speaker 2: this person do? They're texting with the classmate all the time, Like, 3256 02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:24,480 Speaker 2: what should they do? 3257 02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:33,000 Speaker 4: I think they need to Actually, I totally zone. I 3258 02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:34,600 Speaker 4: was looking at the comments and I do. 3259 02:36:34,680 --> 02:36:36,440 Speaker 3: It is a lot, right, it's a lot to keep up. 3260 02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm in a new place right now in the chair. 3261 02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:42,080 Speaker 3: Yes, you're gonna have to read. We're back into reality. 3262 02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:43,440 Speaker 3: So basically, here's the situation. 3263 02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:47,440 Speaker 2: So the wife is texting this new classmate every day, right, 3264 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:50,000 Speaker 2: and the husband is like, yo, why are you Why 3265 02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:52,880 Speaker 2: are you texting every day? Why are you that they're 3266 02:36:52,879 --> 02:36:55,160 Speaker 2: both close? Yeah, I don't know if they're both in 3267 02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:58,039 Speaker 2: college yet we have no Remember this is our no context. 3268 02:36:57,680 --> 02:36:59,040 Speaker 3: No context, no context zone. 3269 02:36:59,480 --> 02:37:00,760 Speaker 1: I think that. 3270 02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't maybe don't text them every day. 3271 02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:06,720 Speaker 3: Don't text them every day, Maybe every two days. 3272 02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:11,080 Speaker 4: Text your your husband every one day, yes, and your 3273 02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:13,400 Speaker 4: school friend every two days. 3274 02:37:13,600 --> 02:37:16,640 Speaker 2: Fulfill the quota. Yeah, every day with the hobby. You 3275 02:37:16,760 --> 02:37:18,119 Speaker 2: heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen. 3276 02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:19,880 Speaker 4: Put it on your Google calendar. 3277 02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the same way. 3278 02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,879 Speaker 2: All right. So let's get into this story from fit 3279 02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:30,360 Speaker 2: Cherry seventy eight sixty two, who says, we me thirty 3280 02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:34,320 Speaker 2: male and my wife twenty five female, have been married 3281 02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:37,920 Speaker 2: for around three years. We recently moved across the country 3282 02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:40,880 Speaker 2: so my wife could attend grad school. I found a 3283 02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,520 Speaker 2: career job in the new location and have been financially 3284 02:37:43,560 --> 02:37:45,080 Speaker 2: supporting us for the most part. 3285 02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:48,680 Speaker 3: She had been on her phone a lot more over 3286 02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:49,440 Speaker 3: the last few months. 3287 02:37:49,520 --> 02:37:52,640 Speaker 2: Suspicious, suspicious. I've asked a few times who she was 3288 02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:55,960 Speaker 2: texting all the time, and she says, it's just a 3289 02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:56,640 Speaker 2: friend from school. 3290 02:37:58,480 --> 02:37:59,039 Speaker 3: This is a friend. 3291 02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:01,840 Speaker 4: It's just a friend from school. They're working on a 3292 02:38:01,879 --> 02:38:02,400 Speaker 4: group project. 3293 02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:05,120 Speaker 2: That's it, group projects. Okay, we can it takes two 3294 02:38:05,400 --> 02:38:07,360 Speaker 2: to make a group project project. 3295 02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:11,040 Speaker 3: Uh oh. When I ask more questions, she starts to 3296 02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:11,720 Speaker 3: get defensive. 3297 02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:16,520 Speaker 2: Wasn't sure what else to do, so unfortunately I took 3298 02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:18,720 Speaker 2: a peek through her phone. 3299 02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:23,080 Speaker 3: Oh that is that a red flag alert? 3300 02:38:23,840 --> 02:38:27,640 Speaker 2: Where are we here? We are as a red flat. 3301 02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:30,279 Speaker 2: Everyone drop your red flags if you believe it is Sophia, 3302 02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:31,080 Speaker 2: give us a breakdown. 3303 02:38:31,280 --> 02:38:35,039 Speaker 4: I okay, I don't think that you should ever be look. 3304 02:38:35,120 --> 02:38:37,800 Speaker 4: I think you should talk to your I don't know. 3305 02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:40,600 Speaker 4: I think that looking through your partner's phone is kind 3306 02:38:40,640 --> 02:38:42,720 Speaker 4: of like end of relationship signs. 3307 02:38:43,000 --> 02:38:48,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that there's any scenario where like this 3308 02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:51,160 Speaker 2: one it was just like texting someone a lot, But 3309 02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:54,080 Speaker 2: do you think there are other scenarios where it's like 3310 02:38:54,160 --> 02:38:55,120 Speaker 2: a lot more evident. 3311 02:38:56,720 --> 02:38:57,920 Speaker 1: I think it's okay. 3312 02:38:58,120 --> 02:38:59,520 Speaker 4: I think you just have to be like I think 3313 02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:01,680 Speaker 4: there could be scenarios where you're like, know, this person 3314 02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:03,879 Speaker 4: is cheating and the gaslighting me and all this stuff, 3315 02:39:03,920 --> 02:39:06,400 Speaker 4: and I just need some proof. Yes, but you have 3316 02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:09,400 Speaker 4: to know that that's going to be like your relationships. 3317 02:39:09,080 --> 02:39:10,840 Speaker 2: You're kind of locked and like maybe maybe you have 3318 02:39:11,560 --> 02:39:13,680 Speaker 2: U anecdotal proof that you don't have like a written 3319 02:39:13,720 --> 02:39:15,800 Speaker 2: record of or something like that. Yeah, it's it's like 3320 02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:19,360 Speaker 2: very specific situations maybe, but you know is key. 3321 02:39:19,640 --> 02:39:22,039 Speaker 4: Yes, I think someone also said in the Burning Rose. 3322 02:39:22,200 --> 02:39:24,440 Speaker 2: Shout out, Burning Burning Rose has been going crazy this 3323 02:39:24,560 --> 02:39:28,400 Speaker 2: whole thea whole thing. Yes, it's a tricky one. It's 3324 02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:32,879 Speaker 2: a tricky one, y'all. Yeah, Oh, y'all are so funny. 3325 02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:37,000 Speaker 2: No free sponsors. Yes, we love zoctoc, we love doc talk. Okay, 3326 02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:40,199 Speaker 2: So I wasn't your what else to do? So importantly, 3327 02:39:40,320 --> 02:39:43,320 Speaker 2: unfortunately took a peek through the phone. I found out 3328 02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:46,040 Speaker 2: that she has been texting some guy from her school 3329 02:39:46,560 --> 02:39:50,680 Speaker 2: all day, every day and night. The text lasts from 3330 02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:56,160 Speaker 2: seven am to twelve am every day, seven am to midnight. 3331 02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:57,480 Speaker 4: Whoa wait. 3332 02:39:58,959 --> 02:39:59,520 Speaker 1: Like you? 3333 02:39:59,720 --> 02:40:03,520 Speaker 2: They make up and then good morning? How's that school? 3334 02:40:03,520 --> 02:40:04,640 Speaker 3: How's that group project going? 3335 02:40:05,120 --> 02:40:05,760 Speaker 4: They wake up? 3336 02:40:06,160 --> 02:40:08,320 Speaker 1: Morning, good morning, good night? 3337 02:40:08,560 --> 02:40:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, great jobs studying hard on that group project. 3338 02:40:13,440 --> 02:40:15,520 Speaker 3: Wink wink wink. 3339 02:40:17,120 --> 02:40:18,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, are we are we innocent? 3340 02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:23,840 Speaker 4: Aren't even talking about friends that much? Right? 3341 02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3342 02:40:24,320 --> 02:40:27,280 Speaker 4: And I'm pretty good at communicating with most times. 3343 02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:32,320 Speaker 2: Imagine texting someone every day, ok? Bored from seven am 3344 02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:33,520 Speaker 2: to Yeah, who. 3345 02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:34,320 Speaker 3: Is that interesting that? 3346 02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:38,720 Speaker 4: You know what? Truly, one is interesting. 3347 02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:41,240 Speaker 3: Unless they got something specifically that they're interested in. 3348 02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:45,280 Speaker 4: Unless they're giving you, I don't know, like government secrets. 3349 02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:48,400 Speaker 2: Oh that would be pretty interesting. Actually, I would like 3350 02:40:48,480 --> 02:40:49,640 Speaker 2: to get government secrets. 3351 02:40:49,720 --> 02:40:52,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, Riley, I have tons of government secrets. 3352 02:40:52,160 --> 02:40:53,000 Speaker 2: You have tons of governments. 3353 02:40:53,160 --> 02:40:55,040 Speaker 5: But everyone's like, those aren't real. 3354 02:40:55,480 --> 02:40:56,600 Speaker 4: Those are conspirraits. 3355 02:40:57,040 --> 02:40:59,440 Speaker 3: Okay, conspiracies coming after this story. 3356 02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:07,040 Speaker 2: So the texts seem innocent overall, Okay, nothing sexual or 3357 02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:09,320 Speaker 2: anything like that, but there're worth a few things that 3358 02:41:09,400 --> 02:41:10,080 Speaker 2: were bothering me. 3359 02:41:10,720 --> 02:41:13,760 Speaker 3: I went all the way to the beginning of the thread. 3360 02:41:13,879 --> 02:41:17,800 Speaker 2: Mind you, this is a text thread that is, uh, 3361 02:41:18,560 --> 02:41:21,360 Speaker 2: seven am to midnight every single day. 3362 02:41:21,600 --> 02:41:25,800 Speaker 4: That's a long text thread. Presumably they're not talking every 3363 02:41:25,879 --> 02:41:28,080 Speaker 4: single minute from seven am to twelve am not. 3364 02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:31,880 Speaker 2: But like, but like that's how long it is, Like 3365 02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:34,000 Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, maybe it's like it ends 3366 02:41:34,320 --> 02:41:35,160 Speaker 2: at like midnight. 3367 02:41:35,240 --> 02:41:36,240 Speaker 4: That's what I've understood. 3368 02:41:36,440 --> 02:41:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy. Every god, he keeps going, yeah, 3369 02:41:42,280 --> 02:41:43,080 Speaker 3: you're just like eating. 3370 02:41:43,959 --> 02:41:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta keep responding because not us doing the 3371 02:41:47,680 --> 02:41:48,400 Speaker 2: live stream right now. 3372 02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's seven am to midnight. Livestream. 3373 02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:57,280 Speaker 2: Yes, so you're ready, Riley, Hey, a lot of Celsius 3374 02:41:57,360 --> 02:41:58,920 Speaker 2: for this guy, I mean a lot of energy drinks, 3375 02:41:58,959 --> 02:42:00,920 Speaker 2: no free sponsors, so. 3376 02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:05,280 Speaker 4: Just a generalized energy drink. 3377 02:42:05,560 --> 02:42:09,039 Speaker 3: I am drinking sports drink today. Now. 3378 02:42:09,280 --> 02:42:11,800 Speaker 2: The first issue is that the texting started when my 3379 02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:14,480 Speaker 2: wife asked a friend for this guy's number and then 3380 02:42:14,560 --> 02:42:19,600 Speaker 2: started texting him randomly. Next, she is always the one 3381 02:42:19,640 --> 02:42:22,520 Speaker 2: to text him first, and she double texts him every 3382 02:42:22,600 --> 02:42:24,680 Speaker 2: time that he stops responding. 3383 02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:30,119 Speaker 4: Oh, that's just well, that's like on their own separate plane. 3384 02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:31,680 Speaker 4: That's a little embarrassing. 3385 02:42:32,000 --> 02:42:38,039 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean I wish, I wish I were 3386 02:42:38,160 --> 02:42:40,920 Speaker 2: exaggerating because he said every single time, Yeah. 3387 02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:44,240 Speaker 3: She'll never respawn. I've also never met this guy, don't 3388 02:42:44,280 --> 02:42:46,600 Speaker 3: know how old he is, don't know what he looks like. 3389 02:42:47,080 --> 02:42:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3390 02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:50,000 Speaker 4: No, I honestly, I think even if it is innocent, 3391 02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:54,000 Speaker 4: that's a little bit or innocent seem Yeah, I think 3392 02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:57,160 Speaker 4: it's a little suspicious because you can tell. You can 3393 02:42:57,240 --> 02:43:01,520 Speaker 4: tell when something is, you know, flirty. Yeah, if it's 3394 02:43:01,560 --> 02:43:02,640 Speaker 4: not outright flirty. 3395 02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:04,560 Speaker 2: You can, especially if you're reading all of their like 3396 02:43:05,280 --> 02:43:08,560 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of texts. You could probably download the 3397 02:43:08,680 --> 02:43:10,959 Speaker 2: vibe of what's going on? Rightly, could you put yourself 3398 02:43:11,040 --> 02:43:13,720 Speaker 2: on the screen real quick. There's another there's another big 3399 02:43:13,760 --> 02:43:17,080 Speaker 2: issue here, Sophia. Op just said they don't know what 3400 02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:21,440 Speaker 2: the guy looks like. Unfortunately, it looks like this right here. 3401 02:43:22,959 --> 02:43:27,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna be you gotta be worried. Op, it's over. Sorry, buddy, 3402 02:43:27,360 --> 02:43:28,879 Speaker 2: sorry buddy, Thank you Rightley for let me use your 3403 02:43:28,879 --> 02:43:34,120 Speaker 2: beautiful face. Although the conversation seem innocent, it seems like 3404 02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:37,160 Speaker 2: she randomly texts him just to start a conversation, often 3405 02:43:37,240 --> 02:43:39,840 Speaker 2: tells him about her school drama, et cetera, et cetera. 3406 02:43:40,680 --> 02:43:42,680 Speaker 2: It also seems like they spend a lot of time 3407 02:43:42,760 --> 02:43:46,560 Speaker 2: at school together playing some card game, a card game, 3408 02:43:47,120 --> 02:43:51,880 Speaker 2: some card game, playing backgame in all day Beckham was 3409 02:43:51,959 --> 02:43:52,720 Speaker 2: not a card game, is it. 3410 02:43:53,760 --> 02:43:54,840 Speaker 4: I don't believe so. 3411 02:43:55,160 --> 02:43:55,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 3412 02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:58,120 Speaker 4: I don't think so. Isn't it that one it's like 3413 02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:00,800 Speaker 4: a it's like a board. Yeah, yeah, it's like and 3414 02:44:00,840 --> 02:44:02,520 Speaker 4: it's not like those little spikes on it. 3415 02:44:02,800 --> 02:44:05,480 Speaker 3: We're trying, y'all, we're trying to remember what games are 3416 02:44:05,520 --> 02:44:06,240 Speaker 3: cards and notts. 3417 02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:09,120 Speaker 4: I know all the card games she does. 3418 02:44:09,720 --> 02:44:10,640 Speaker 3: Sophia is actually very good. 3419 02:44:10,760 --> 02:44:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm very good at card games. It's my only thing. 3420 02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:17,160 Speaker 2: Uh oh, put in the comments what a card game 3421 02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:19,400 Speaker 2: you think you could beat Sophia at? And I'll let 3422 02:44:19,440 --> 02:44:21,279 Speaker 2: you know that he won't. 3423 02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:23,160 Speaker 4: People to bring me in. 3424 02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:27,360 Speaker 2: She has even left dinner with me early to go 3425 02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:29,440 Speaker 2: back to school and play cards with him. 3426 02:44:30,280 --> 02:44:32,800 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa, what. 3427 02:44:32,920 --> 02:44:34,280 Speaker 4: If I'm so obsessed with cards? 3428 02:44:34,680 --> 02:44:35,959 Speaker 2: They just love it? Oh yeah. 3429 02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:38,200 Speaker 4: There in the chat they're like, hey, do you want 3430 02:44:38,240 --> 02:44:42,440 Speaker 4: to go play cards? That's actually a really good point. 3431 02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:44,840 Speaker 3: That's a tinfoil hack, conspiracy. 3432 02:44:45,080 --> 02:44:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's right there, you know how like. 3433 02:44:52,920 --> 02:44:57,200 Speaker 5: You know how like there's a lot of like card games. Yes, 3434 02:44:57,320 --> 02:44:59,720 Speaker 5: so like there's a lot of other things you could 3435 02:44:59,720 --> 02:45:02,879 Speaker 5: do with year alone with people. So each card game 3436 02:45:03,000 --> 02:45:04,960 Speaker 5: is a different I think. 3437 02:45:05,440 --> 02:45:08,520 Speaker 4: Oh so they have they have specific code language. 3438 02:45:08,879 --> 02:45:18,640 Speaker 2: They're like, oh yeah, yes, solo solo. Wait wait, oh 3439 02:45:18,760 --> 02:45:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm tired of playing and Solitaire. I'm ready to play. 3440 02:45:23,160 --> 02:45:26,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, They're like, I've been playing Solitaire for all week. 3441 02:45:27,840 --> 02:45:32,400 Speaker 3: Let's play war, Let's play Egyptian Rats, lab. 3442 02:45:33,959 --> 02:45:40,959 Speaker 5: O, Rummy, go fish, not the fish? 3443 02:45:41,560 --> 02:45:43,760 Speaker 4: Are you wait? Are you listening? Just card games that 3444 02:45:43,800 --> 02:45:44,400 Speaker 4: they could be playing. 3445 02:45:44,400 --> 02:45:46,280 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to make INDI windows out of these 3446 02:45:46,400 --> 02:45:47,400 Speaker 5: and this is the best. 3447 02:45:47,560 --> 02:45:49,360 Speaker 3: We're trying to find out. We're trying to break their 3448 02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:49,800 Speaker 3: code here. 3449 02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:51,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Sarah, I've been slacking. 3450 02:45:51,760 --> 02:45:54,800 Speaker 2: No sex, no guys. Can you can you put down 3451 02:45:54,920 --> 02:45:57,959 Speaker 2: what code what card games for? What code words you think. 3452 02:45:57,920 --> 02:45:59,280 Speaker 5: Is happening right now? I would love to see that 3453 02:45:59,320 --> 02:46:00,920 Speaker 5: cards against men. Great, that's everything. 3454 02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's everything. That's that's that's an all. 3455 02:46:03,040 --> 02:46:05,000 Speaker 2: Of them is. 3456 02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:08,440 Speaker 4: That's a human. It's Egyptian rat screw and Egyptian rat slabo. 3457 02:46:09,240 --> 02:46:11,800 Speaker 4: There are multiple names for this game. I've heard them all. 3458 02:46:12,040 --> 02:46:12,560 Speaker 2: That's true. 3459 02:46:12,760 --> 02:46:15,320 Speaker 3: Good one human great user name. 3460 02:46:16,720 --> 02:46:19,560 Speaker 2: So she invites him to She invites him to spend 3461 02:46:19,600 --> 02:46:22,080 Speaker 2: one on one time, whether it's at school, at the bar, 3462 02:46:22,680 --> 02:46:25,400 Speaker 2: or wherever. When her parents came into town, she even 3463 02:46:25,440 --> 02:46:27,960 Speaker 2: invited this guy to the bar with her and her 3464 02:46:28,120 --> 02:46:30,320 Speaker 2: parents to meet the parents she is. 3465 02:46:30,360 --> 02:46:33,160 Speaker 4: She invited the got the friend to meet her parents. 3466 02:46:33,360 --> 02:46:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta have my best friend meet my parents 3467 02:46:35,879 --> 02:46:44,120 Speaker 2: before I you know, before my husband. Joking further, she 3468 02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:48,000 Speaker 2: baked cookies for this guy, whoa Sophia. 3469 02:46:48,360 --> 02:46:49,640 Speaker 3: We have a master baker in the room. 3470 02:46:49,840 --> 02:46:51,600 Speaker 4: I would bake cookies. 3471 02:46:51,760 --> 02:46:53,720 Speaker 2: That's all right, anyone. 3472 02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:54,680 Speaker 3: You heard it here? 3473 02:46:54,760 --> 02:46:57,400 Speaker 4: First, ladies and gentlemen actually bike cookies for everyone, So 3474 02:46:57,640 --> 02:46:58,000 Speaker 4: that's true. 3475 02:46:58,080 --> 02:46:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 3476 02:46:58,800 --> 02:47:00,520 Speaker 4: She was just taking cookies, and I don't know. 3477 02:47:01,000 --> 02:47:02,720 Speaker 3: It's it's I think these are targeted. 3478 02:47:02,959 --> 02:47:05,760 Speaker 4: If they're targeted, targeted cookies, thots a little. I've never 3479 02:47:05,879 --> 02:47:06,960 Speaker 4: targeted my cookies. 3480 02:47:07,200 --> 02:47:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, hey everyone, it's open. 3481 02:47:10,959 --> 02:47:12,400 Speaker 4: It's an open cookie call. 3482 02:47:12,760 --> 02:47:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, come on. 3483 02:47:14,720 --> 02:47:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. She loves to bake, and I remember her one 3484 02:47:17,920 --> 02:47:20,720 Speaker 2: day baking a type of cookie that she had never 3485 02:47:20,760 --> 02:47:23,080 Speaker 2: baked before, special cookie. 3486 02:47:23,840 --> 02:47:26,400 Speaker 4: Why was I And I remember she baked a cookie 3487 02:47:26,480 --> 02:47:31,120 Speaker 4: she had never made before, and that was suspicious, trying 3488 02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:31,960 Speaker 4: new recipes. 3489 02:47:32,120 --> 02:47:34,280 Speaker 3: It was September twenty fast. She had never seen a 3490 02:47:34,360 --> 02:47:35,640 Speaker 3: meccadamia in her life. 3491 02:47:38,200 --> 02:47:39,880 Speaker 2: While I assumed that she was baking them for a 3492 02:47:39,959 --> 02:47:41,440 Speaker 2: party that she was going to go to that night, 3493 02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:44,360 Speaker 2: the text showed me that she was baking them just 3494 02:47:44,480 --> 02:47:44,959 Speaker 2: for this guy. 3495 02:47:45,080 --> 02:47:46,840 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, a party for two. 3496 02:47:47,320 --> 02:47:49,400 Speaker 4: What is he still looking at the text chain. 3497 02:47:50,200 --> 02:47:52,879 Speaker 2: He's referencing that. I think he's read the entire thing 3498 02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:55,080 Speaker 2: at this point. I think he's gone all the way. 3499 02:47:55,000 --> 02:47:55,680 Speaker 3: Top to bottom. 3500 02:47:56,240 --> 02:47:58,480 Speaker 2: What makes it worse is the fact that she went 3501 02:47:58,560 --> 02:48:00,600 Speaker 2: out of her way to do it. I had the 3502 02:48:00,680 --> 02:48:03,000 Speaker 2: car that night, so she walked to the store in 3503 02:48:03,160 --> 02:48:06,480 Speaker 2: the rain to get the ingredients, baked the cookies, and 3504 02:48:06,560 --> 02:48:09,440 Speaker 2: then brought them over to his apartment, where she stayed 3505 02:48:09,600 --> 02:48:10,440 Speaker 2: for two hours. 3506 02:48:10,640 --> 02:48:14,200 Speaker 3: She likes this guy, Yeah right, I mean yeah, does 3507 02:48:14,280 --> 02:48:17,120 Speaker 3: she like them? Growing in the comments below, does she 3508 02:48:17,360 --> 02:48:17,640 Speaker 3: like them? 3509 02:48:18,360 --> 02:48:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 3510 02:48:21,800 --> 02:48:24,320 Speaker 2: She did go to the party afterwards, but only stayed 3511 02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:27,160 Speaker 2: for a few minutes to say high and then leave. 3512 02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:29,080 Speaker 4: She was making appearances. 3513 02:48:29,320 --> 02:48:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, she stayed at his house for two hours 3514 02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:33,440 Speaker 2: and literally stayed at the party for two minutes. 3515 02:48:33,520 --> 02:48:34,000 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 3516 02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:37,040 Speaker 2: One thing I've been a bit insecure about is the 3517 02:48:37,120 --> 02:48:40,680 Speaker 2: fact that my profession does not pay great. She lived 3518 02:48:40,760 --> 02:48:44,720 Speaker 2: a very privileged, privileged life scott lifestyle through her parents 3519 02:48:44,760 --> 02:48:47,120 Speaker 2: before meeting me. And she is in grad school for 3520 02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:50,039 Speaker 2: a profession that pays significantly more than. 3521 02:48:50,000 --> 02:48:53,040 Speaker 3: Mine, like five times what I make. 3522 02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:56,959 Speaker 2: Oh wow, she will make more in her summer internship 3523 02:48:57,360 --> 02:49:00,840 Speaker 2: than I will make this entire year. Uh. 3524 02:49:01,000 --> 02:49:02,720 Speaker 4: And now he's signing insecure, which is. 3525 02:49:03,040 --> 02:49:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of things are out of it. And 3526 02:49:05,480 --> 02:49:08,480 Speaker 2: and and mind you, this guy goes to her program 3527 02:49:08,959 --> 02:49:10,840 Speaker 2: a ka will earn the same amount. 3528 02:49:11,360 --> 02:49:14,279 Speaker 4: Oh, Sam's here, Sam, He's here in the corner. 3529 02:49:14,480 --> 02:49:16,760 Speaker 3: Yes, a little sneaky Sam. 3530 02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:25,440 Speaker 2: Hello all together? Yay, Oh yeah, we are all Yes, 3531 02:49:25,600 --> 02:49:32,560 Speaker 2: we are indubitably Yes, she is enthused. This guy that 3532 02:49:32,840 --> 02:49:35,680 Speaker 2: she is texting is in the same profession, So there 3533 02:49:35,720 --> 02:49:38,600 Speaker 2: you go. Reading these messages made me feel sick to 3534 02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:40,760 Speaker 2: my stomach. I just wanted to post here to see 3535 02:49:40,760 --> 02:49:43,880 Speaker 2: if this sounds fishy to anyone else. I'm not sure 3536 02:49:43,920 --> 02:49:46,760 Speaker 2: if anything physical has happened, but she has crossed some 3537 02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:52,080 Speaker 2: boundaries either way. How should I handle this? And we 3538 02:49:52,640 --> 02:49:57,119 Speaker 2: do have a few little little edits, uh so quick edit. 3539 02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:00,040 Speaker 2: The meetup with the parents never actually happened. She he 3540 02:50:00,120 --> 02:50:02,160 Speaker 2: did try to get him to the bar, but that 3541 02:50:02,280 --> 02:50:05,080 Speaker 2: plan fell through. Also, in reading the text, it seems 3542 02:50:05,160 --> 02:50:07,280 Speaker 2: like the guy tried to keep her at arm's length 3543 02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:11,600 Speaker 2: at first, keeping conversations short and not engaging too much, 3544 02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:15,600 Speaker 2: but over time to becoming much much more repetitive and 3545 02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:19,640 Speaker 2: interested in actually talking. This all happened over the course 3546 02:50:20,040 --> 02:50:23,480 Speaker 2: of about five or six months. I'm not paying for 3547 02:50:23,560 --> 02:50:25,280 Speaker 2: a school, just our living expenses. 3548 02:50:25,360 --> 02:50:28,400 Speaker 3: For the most part. We have an update, but we 3549 02:50:28,680 --> 02:50:31,240 Speaker 3: have Yeah, we have to pause here, and we just 3550 02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:33,119 Speaker 3: got Sam. We just got Sam Sam. 3551 02:50:33,200 --> 02:50:35,840 Speaker 4: We have to update him on everything that's going on. 3552 02:50:36,120 --> 02:50:41,279 Speaker 2: Yes, So are you ready for a little TLDR Sami boy. So, basically, 3553 02:50:42,840 --> 02:50:47,800 Speaker 2: Op thirty mail uh is paying for his his lovely 3554 02:50:47,879 --> 02:50:51,040 Speaker 2: lady twenty five female, he's making all the money. She's 3555 02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:54,960 Speaker 2: going to school, and she started texting this guy seven 3556 02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:56,560 Speaker 2: am to midnight, seven. 3557 02:50:56,440 --> 02:50:56,880 Speaker 3: Days a week. 3558 02:50:58,200 --> 02:51:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven am to midnight am the mid nice seven 3559 02:51:00,720 --> 02:51:04,400 Speaker 2: days a week. So it's a lot, it's a lot. Uh. 3560 02:51:04,720 --> 02:51:08,240 Speaker 2: So now we have to figure out if Opie should 3561 02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:11,480 Speaker 2: be worried or not. I think should op be worried 3562 02:51:11,560 --> 02:51:13,720 Speaker 2: or not? I mean, of course. 3563 02:51:15,040 --> 02:51:15,879 Speaker 1: Is there even a question? 3564 02:51:16,280 --> 02:51:18,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's clear. 3565 02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:19,080 Speaker 2: That she likes this guy. 3566 02:51:19,600 --> 02:51:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think. Also, it seems like in the beginning 3567 02:51:22,360 --> 02:51:25,880 Speaker 4: the school friend was trying to maintain a boundary and 3568 02:51:25,920 --> 02:51:27,680 Speaker 4: then she was like no, I. 3569 02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:31,640 Speaker 2: Mean, she was double texting him every time he didn't responds. 3570 02:51:31,920 --> 02:51:34,959 Speaker 2: Every time he read the entire six month chat. 3571 02:51:34,840 --> 02:51:38,360 Speaker 1: History in the in the post no No no. 3572 02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:44,400 Speaker 4: Ang story, her pictures from the entire chain for five months. 3573 02:51:44,560 --> 02:51:46,520 Speaker 2: He read them on his own to get the full 3574 02:51:46,600 --> 02:51:52,080 Speaker 2: download on like everything that happened. Basically, So that's rough. 3575 02:51:52,360 --> 02:51:55,640 Speaker 2: That is rough, right, Sophia, what do we what do 3576 02:51:55,760 --> 02:51:58,480 Speaker 2: we think Opie should do at this point? I think 3577 02:51:58,600 --> 02:52:03,520 Speaker 2: that op needs talk to his girlfriend and he sit down, conversation. 3578 02:52:03,680 --> 02:52:06,960 Speaker 4: Sit down, yeah, say hey, I don't know. I don't 3579 02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:08,279 Speaker 4: like this funny business. 3580 02:52:08,040 --> 02:52:12,280 Speaker 3: That's going on. Yeah, sit down and have a top. 3581 02:52:13,520 --> 02:52:14,560 Speaker 4: It seems like he's going there. 3582 02:52:14,879 --> 02:52:18,200 Speaker 2: Protein put your beautiful face on. There also also a 3583 02:52:18,360 --> 02:52:22,520 Speaker 2: very important information. So the other guy looks like looks 3584 02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:26,879 Speaker 2: like this, looks like that. So it's it's it's it's 3585 02:52:26,879 --> 02:52:29,840 Speaker 2: an issue, it's over. Give up now, right, give up now? 3586 02:52:30,520 --> 02:52:32,720 Speaker 2: Knowing that the man looks exactly like you and it's 3587 02:52:32,720 --> 02:52:36,080 Speaker 2: equally sexy. What should op do in the scenario, Riley, 3588 02:52:37,440 --> 02:52:38,199 Speaker 2: I should. 3589 02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:41,360 Speaker 5: Run or fight him. But if he looks like me, 3590 02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:42,440 Speaker 5: he's gonna have a art time. 3591 02:52:42,760 --> 02:52:44,680 Speaker 2: He's going to be too powerful, Riley, he looks like you, 3592 02:52:44,760 --> 02:52:47,080 Speaker 2: he's going to be too strong. So all you all 3593 02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:50,480 Speaker 2: you can do is so seriously, like do you try 3594 02:52:50,520 --> 02:52:50,760 Speaker 2: to do? 3595 02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:50,840 Speaker 1: You? 3596 02:52:50,920 --> 02:52:51,520 Speaker 3: Try to sit down? 3597 02:52:51,560 --> 02:52:53,840 Speaker 5: And I would try to sit down and first talk 3598 02:52:53,920 --> 02:52:56,840 Speaker 5: to his it's wife, right, yeah, I would talk to 3599 02:52:56,920 --> 02:52:59,520 Speaker 5: the wife be like, hey, I don't feel comfortable with this, 3600 02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:04,680 Speaker 5: and then after that, if it's not working, like, try 3601 02:53:04,720 --> 02:53:06,800 Speaker 5: to get the parents involved, maybe because like I don't 3602 02:53:07,080 --> 02:53:11,960 Speaker 5: also the parents. Let's talk about that, but talk about it. 3603 02:53:12,200 --> 02:53:15,560 Speaker 5: Why why are we hanging out with Opie's parents at 3604 02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:17,480 Speaker 5: the bar with her friend? 3605 02:53:17,600 --> 02:53:19,680 Speaker 2: Like that's yeah, it's a little weird. 3606 02:53:19,720 --> 02:53:21,280 Speaker 5: Why are they letting that go? I know she's like 3607 02:53:21,360 --> 02:53:23,720 Speaker 5: twenty five and he's like thirty, but still like people 3608 02:53:23,760 --> 02:53:26,000 Speaker 5: should have developed brains by now and know better. 3609 02:53:26,240 --> 02:53:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this in some of the earlier 3610 02:53:28,200 --> 02:53:31,080 Speaker 4: stories that Riley and I filmed this morning were Yeah, 3611 02:53:31,440 --> 02:53:32,920 Speaker 4: people people old people. 3612 02:53:32,800 --> 02:53:34,520 Speaker 5: Don't have developed brains. 3613 02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:37,640 Speaker 1: Someone commented on the livestream is like, these people are 3614 02:53:37,959 --> 02:53:41,240 Speaker 1: thirty plus. Should they should know better, They should know 3615 02:53:41,320 --> 02:53:42,560 Speaker 1: how to communicate, but they don't. 3616 02:53:42,760 --> 02:53:43,520 Speaker 5: They're acting like this. 3617 02:53:43,879 --> 02:53:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah they sin red flag. 3618 02:53:46,600 --> 02:53:48,240 Speaker 3: They are thirty and twenty five, but. 3619 02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:51,400 Speaker 5: Try to talk some cinciner. If you can't, not the 3620 02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:54,680 Speaker 5: person you want to be with. Exactly, baking cookies for 3621 02:53:54,800 --> 02:53:57,640 Speaker 5: the people. I would have left personally as soon as 3622 02:53:57,680 --> 02:54:00,520 Speaker 5: the cookies dropped. That was the final straw. Riley maybe 3623 02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:02,520 Speaker 5: scrolls scroll through some of the comments that we can 3624 02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:07,240 Speaker 5: see here. Let's see here, so we got from Gracie mecha, 3625 02:54:07,720 --> 02:54:08,200 Speaker 5: just give up. 3626 02:54:08,360 --> 02:54:11,160 Speaker 2: Yep, laughing emoji. You know that does seem to be 3627 02:54:11,360 --> 02:54:14,520 Speaker 2: a common thread on Burning Rose John stopped Bowling Riley. 3628 02:54:14,760 --> 02:54:16,600 Speaker 3: It is actually me loving him to death and thinking 3629 02:54:16,640 --> 02:54:17,320 Speaker 3: he is so beautiful. 3630 02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:18,320 Speaker 5: You should see us off game. 3631 02:54:18,520 --> 02:54:20,519 Speaker 1: It's it's it's like a big brother relationship. 3632 02:54:20,640 --> 02:54:23,400 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, lady, hatch John is my fave. 3633 02:54:23,560 --> 02:54:25,840 Speaker 3: Not gonna lie. Those glorious locks are better than mine. 3634 02:54:26,000 --> 02:54:27,080 Speaker 3: What products does he use? 3635 02:54:27,520 --> 02:54:28,040 Speaker 2: Y'all? No? 3636 02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:28,959 Speaker 3: Free sponsors? 3637 02:54:28,959 --> 02:54:31,680 Speaker 2: All right, we can't we can't. 3638 02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:34,480 Speaker 4: Even do that, and choosing what kind of comics. 3639 02:54:34,600 --> 02:54:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the ones that are flattering himself, not not me. 3640 02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:40,760 Speaker 2: Kicking off the comment reading on this one. 3641 02:54:40,720 --> 02:54:44,680 Speaker 4: What about the common from CM that said they really 3642 02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:45,520 Speaker 4: love redvines? 3643 02:54:46,320 --> 02:54:50,360 Speaker 2: Uh, so let's have a quick conversation. Red vines are disgusting. 3644 02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:53,600 Speaker 2: Uh and anyone who likes them is just an incorrect 3645 02:54:53,680 --> 02:54:56,240 Speaker 2: human being. Well, because you're you're on Twizzler game, I am, 3646 02:54:56,560 --> 02:54:59,760 Speaker 2: I am Team twist. Whistlers tastes like plastic bro that 3647 02:55:00,040 --> 02:55:05,000 Speaker 2: tastes like chalk, that tastes like so good. No, no, no, 3648 02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:11,680 Speaker 2: I will accept no, I can't accept anything. Actually, yeah, yeah, 3649 02:55:11,760 --> 02:55:15,879 Speaker 2: Twizzlers are red vine because these are Twizzlers. Sucke, you're 3650 02:55:15,920 --> 02:55:21,600 Speaker 2: talking about my boys seem come on, come, come to 3651 02:55:21,640 --> 02:55:24,240 Speaker 2: the come to the light side. Anyone else do we have? Okay, 3652 02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:26,640 Speaker 2: red vines and twizzlers are red flags? 3653 02:55:26,760 --> 02:55:30,040 Speaker 4: Oh no, see, I am a proponent of the age 3654 02:55:30,120 --> 02:55:35,200 Speaker 4: old Red Vine fan club from star Kid, which you 3655 02:55:35,240 --> 02:55:35,720 Speaker 4: guys won't know. 3656 02:55:35,879 --> 02:55:36,440 Speaker 1: But nope. 3657 02:55:36,640 --> 02:55:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you've seen star Kid, you know you know 3658 02:55:39,240 --> 02:55:40,199 Speaker 4: all about the red vines. 3659 02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:41,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. 3660 02:55:42,120 --> 02:55:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, a very pun of musical. 3661 02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:46,600 Speaker 2: All I know is that bed Wolf said twizzlers. That's 3662 02:55:46,760 --> 02:55:49,640 Speaker 2: that's all I know. You know, all licorice is gross. 3663 02:55:49,879 --> 02:55:51,840 Speaker 2: I never even thought about that possibility. 3664 02:55:52,120 --> 02:55:56,240 Speaker 4: I actually I think beyond twizzlers and red vines, I 3665 02:55:56,320 --> 02:55:58,320 Speaker 4: prefer like the real to you know, like the liquors 3666 02:55:58,360 --> 02:55:59,480 Speaker 4: that you get from Trader Joe's. 3667 02:55:59,640 --> 02:56:02,600 Speaker 3: That Yeah, like that I don't even know. So strong, 3668 02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:06,080 Speaker 3: it's almost like alcohol and a Yeah, twisty two is strong. 3669 02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:12,199 Speaker 3: It is strong. There is an update which Sam's face 3670 02:56:12,360 --> 02:56:13,480 Speaker 3: is needed to access. 3671 02:56:13,959 --> 02:56:17,560 Speaker 1: Everyone has my phone and computer in here, so I 3672 02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:18,680 Speaker 1: have nothing. 3673 02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:19,800 Speaker 3: He has nothing. 3674 02:56:19,879 --> 02:56:21,760 Speaker 1: I have nothing, Well my red vines. 3675 02:56:22,600 --> 02:56:23,040 Speaker 2: Here we go. 3676 02:56:24,080 --> 02:56:27,400 Speaker 3: So update. I ended up deleting the original post. 3677 02:56:27,760 --> 02:56:30,120 Speaker 2: Sorry, but I was able, But I was able to 3678 02:56:30,200 --> 02:56:33,800 Speaker 2: have a conversation with a guy that she has been texting. 3679 02:56:36,320 --> 02:56:38,760 Speaker 2: I got his number off of her phone and just 3680 02:56:38,879 --> 02:56:44,400 Speaker 2: texted him saying, ah, heys, this is my wife's husband. 3681 02:56:45,400 --> 02:56:47,320 Speaker 2: I caught wind of what's been going on between you 3682 02:56:47,400 --> 02:56:49,199 Speaker 2: two and just wanted to see if you'd be willing 3683 02:56:49,280 --> 02:56:53,320 Speaker 2: to be honest with me about what has happened. He 3684 02:56:54,440 --> 02:56:56,840 Speaker 2: responded pretty quickly and was willing to meet with me 3685 02:56:56,920 --> 02:56:58,400 Speaker 2: for lunch in a public place. 3686 02:56:58,879 --> 02:57:02,879 Speaker 3: So we met. Ye are you ready for this next part? 3687 02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:04,280 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this next part? 3688 02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:06,320 Speaker 2: Are you ready for this next part? Can? 3689 02:57:06,480 --> 02:57:06,600 Speaker 1: Can? 3690 02:57:06,680 --> 02:57:06,960 Speaker 2: We? Can? 3691 02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:08,080 Speaker 1: We conspiracy theorize? 3692 02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:09,680 Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's get the hats. Let's get 3693 02:57:09,680 --> 02:57:12,520 Speaker 2: the hats, break them out, break them out. 3694 02:57:12,560 --> 02:57:13,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't get. 3695 02:57:17,560 --> 02:57:17,760 Speaker 2: There. 3696 02:57:17,840 --> 02:57:19,840 Speaker 3: We go nice throw What have we got? 3697 02:57:19,959 --> 02:57:20,160 Speaker 2: Sam? 3698 02:57:22,320 --> 02:57:27,160 Speaker 1: I think red flag that he is asking for a 3699 02:57:27,360 --> 02:57:31,760 Speaker 1: public place, like specifically not not, because I feel like 3700 02:57:31,800 --> 02:57:36,480 Speaker 1: that means there's gonna be some crazy revelations of what 3701 02:57:36,680 --> 02:57:41,160 Speaker 1: has happened, because you wouldn't like if it, like, you know, yeah, 3702 02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:44,240 Speaker 1: he's like, because what I'm about to say is gonna 3703 02:57:44,240 --> 02:57:46,640 Speaker 1: piss you off that you're gonna want to kill me. Yeah, 3704 02:57:46,760 --> 02:57:48,400 Speaker 1: but we're gonna be in a public place, so you can't. 3705 02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3706 02:57:49,240 --> 02:57:51,720 Speaker 3: Red flag is in like a warning sign of what's 3707 02:57:51,800 --> 02:57:52,039 Speaker 3: to come. 3708 02:57:52,240 --> 02:57:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I feel I feel like there's gonna be 3709 02:57:55,160 --> 02:57:58,120 Speaker 1: some some sauce that is spilt in public. 3710 02:57:58,200 --> 02:57:59,080 Speaker 3: What do you think the sauces? 3711 02:58:02,840 --> 02:58:07,520 Speaker 2: Chocolate, sonce, for the cookies, for the cookies. It all 3712 02:58:07,640 --> 02:58:11,000 Speaker 2: comes back to the cookies, cokies. All right, guys, are 3713 02:58:11,040 --> 02:58:12,640 Speaker 2: you ready? You got you all aren't ready for this 3714 02:58:12,760 --> 02:58:17,080 Speaker 2: next line? It's too perfect. He is twenty three years 3715 02:58:17,120 --> 02:58:20,360 Speaker 2: old and a very good looking man. I happen to 3716 02:58:20,400 --> 02:58:22,520 Speaker 2: know someone else that is those exact same things. 3717 02:58:23,400 --> 02:58:25,760 Speaker 1: Hey, how he said that. 3718 02:58:25,959 --> 02:58:27,360 Speaker 4: He was like, he's twenty three es. 3719 02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:33,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he literally can't help it, he said, I'll 3720 02:58:33,160 --> 02:58:34,680 Speaker 3: give him that. He can't help. He can't help, but 3721 02:58:34,720 --> 02:58:35,160 Speaker 3: acknowledge it. 3722 02:58:35,280 --> 02:58:35,800 Speaker 2: I'll give him that. 3723 02:58:36,120 --> 02:58:37,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gorgeous. 3724 02:58:38,360 --> 02:58:40,800 Speaker 2: When we met for lunch, I started the conversation by 3725 02:58:40,840 --> 02:58:43,440 Speaker 2: asking him if he could give me his perspective on 3726 02:58:43,560 --> 02:58:46,840 Speaker 2: what's been happening between him and my wife. He started 3727 02:58:46,920 --> 02:58:50,240 Speaker 2: with a disclaimer that nothing physical has happened between them, 3728 02:58:52,440 --> 02:58:55,760 Speaker 2: and honestly I believe him. He seems like a decent guy. 3729 02:58:56,160 --> 02:58:58,280 Speaker 2: He told me he respects me and never wanted to 3730 02:58:58,280 --> 02:59:00,600 Speaker 2: get involved with a married woman. When he started the 3731 02:59:00,640 --> 02:59:03,840 Speaker 2: story from the very beginning, I'll tell it as if 3732 02:59:03,879 --> 02:59:07,920 Speaker 2: he were telling it five months ago. It goes like this, 3733 02:59:08,400 --> 02:59:11,800 Speaker 2: and that is a direct quote. I approached her at 3734 02:59:11,840 --> 02:59:14,400 Speaker 2: the beginning of school because I found her attractive. I 3735 02:59:14,440 --> 02:59:17,160 Speaker 2: don't remember whether she was wearing a wedding ring. I'm 3736 02:59:17,200 --> 02:59:19,120 Speaker 2: not used to checking for that because most people my 3737 02:59:19,240 --> 02:59:22,400 Speaker 2: age generally aren't married. Is that true rally? 3738 02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:28,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, But the women I look for, oh kind of there. 3739 02:59:30,840 --> 02:59:32,440 Speaker 1: Well, because they're older, they're older. 3740 02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:34,800 Speaker 4: That was the no that didn't know. 3741 02:59:35,360 --> 02:59:39,320 Speaker 1: You're just in the married women, older women married? Why 3742 02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:41,520 Speaker 1: are they're older? Married woman? 3743 02:59:42,440 --> 02:59:44,879 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I'm look like the type of women 3744 02:59:44,959 --> 02:59:48,760 Speaker 5: that I'm looking for, or older, the probably have wedding rings, 3745 02:59:48,800 --> 02:59:50,040 Speaker 5: but if they're older, they don't have one. 3746 02:59:50,120 --> 02:59:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, hello, there it is. 3747 02:59:53,000 --> 02:59:55,160 Speaker 1: I heard Riley hits on women with wedding ring. 3748 02:59:57,440 --> 03:00:00,800 Speaker 5: I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. 3749 03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:03,320 Speaker 4: I would never but you're a gemini. 3750 03:00:04,640 --> 03:00:07,920 Speaker 5: Gentlemen, what does that have to do with anything? 3751 03:00:08,040 --> 03:00:11,440 Speaker 4: I'm a Gemini I would never missus. 3752 03:00:11,440 --> 03:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Stella Davis says, big protein on the prowl for some 3753 03:00:14,560 --> 03:00:15,680 Speaker 1: feisty cougars. 3754 03:00:17,240 --> 03:00:19,480 Speaker 5: Dude, I am close to Malibu. If you know any 3755 03:00:19,600 --> 03:00:23,200 Speaker 5: Malibou hoogers, please let me know, let me know me, 3756 03:00:23,520 --> 03:00:26,160 Speaker 5: I will talk to them. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. 3757 03:00:28,840 --> 03:00:33,640 Speaker 2: But when I approached her, this is again the possible 3758 03:00:33,640 --> 03:00:39,600 Speaker 2: affair partners. She seemed very interested, absolutely zero indication from 3759 03:00:39,640 --> 03:00:41,920 Speaker 2: her part that she made have that she may have 3760 03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:44,879 Speaker 2: been in a relationship. When she found out I had 3761 03:00:44,959 --> 03:00:48,560 Speaker 2: a post job, a post grad job offer, she was 3762 03:00:48,879 --> 03:00:53,080 Speaker 2: overly congratulatory back to the money she made him cookies. 3763 03:00:54,440 --> 03:00:56,760 Speaker 2: After talking to her more over the next few days, 3764 03:00:56,959 --> 03:00:59,920 Speaker 2: I asked for her Instagram, which she seemed hesitant to give, 3765 03:01:00,320 --> 03:01:01,800 Speaker 2: But she gave me her Instagram. 3766 03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:03,360 Speaker 4: Anyways because she didn't want him to find out that 3767 03:01:03,640 --> 03:01:04,480 Speaker 4: she had a partner. 3768 03:01:04,840 --> 03:01:08,560 Speaker 2: Yes, true, Yeah, always observant. When I followed her, I 3769 03:01:08,680 --> 03:01:11,680 Speaker 2: immediately realized that she was married. I was floored due 3770 03:01:11,680 --> 03:01:14,600 Speaker 2: to her behavior, but I decided to fall back. After 3771 03:01:14,760 --> 03:01:17,280 Speaker 2: falling back, I heard from some mutual friends that she 3772 03:01:17,400 --> 03:01:19,680 Speaker 2: seemed to be a bit offended that I stopped talking 3773 03:01:19,720 --> 03:01:22,720 Speaker 2: to her after finding out that she was married. I 3774 03:01:22,840 --> 03:01:26,320 Speaker 2: found that a bit strange, but whatever, some drama transpired, 3775 03:01:26,440 --> 03:01:28,360 Speaker 2: so I went out of my way to avoid her 3776 03:01:28,480 --> 03:01:30,880 Speaker 2: for about a month or so. But after a while 3777 03:01:31,040 --> 03:01:33,200 Speaker 2: I felt the beef was a waste of time, so 3778 03:01:33,800 --> 03:01:36,280 Speaker 2: I decided to give her a compliment to kind of 3779 03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:40,720 Speaker 2: communicate that I don't mind being cordial with her. Hey, 3780 03:01:40,840 --> 03:01:44,520 Speaker 2: you look sexy today. Your eyes reminded me of the sea, 3781 03:01:44,680 --> 03:01:46,480 Speaker 2: and I want to swim beef over. 3782 03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:48,000 Speaker 3: The beef has been ended. 3783 03:01:49,040 --> 03:01:52,680 Speaker 2: She seemed ecstatic about the compliment, and I heard from 3784 03:01:52,760 --> 03:01:55,720 Speaker 2: mutual friends that she was going around telling people that 3785 03:01:55,840 --> 03:01:56,640 Speaker 2: we were friends again. 3786 03:01:57,240 --> 03:01:59,959 Speaker 3: I also found that strange. I just wanted to be courty. 3787 03:02:00,879 --> 03:02:05,360 Speaker 2: So he started with a compliment. Come on, like be like, hey, uh, 3788 03:02:06,480 --> 03:02:08,080 Speaker 2: how's it going? I don't know, I don't know, like 3789 03:02:08,200 --> 03:02:10,199 Speaker 2: anything talk yeah, small. 3790 03:02:10,040 --> 03:02:12,879 Speaker 3: Talk, small talk. Oh this man, this tests been hard 3791 03:02:12,920 --> 03:02:17,040 Speaker 3: this semester. Like, how's it been going? Did you get yeah? 3792 03:02:18,879 --> 03:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 3793 03:02:19,440 --> 03:02:20,000 Speaker 3: Any tips? 3794 03:02:20,600 --> 03:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah for you? 3795 03:02:22,920 --> 03:02:24,240 Speaker 2: Oh god, there he is. 3796 03:02:25,640 --> 03:02:26,760 Speaker 3: I just wanted to be cordial. 3797 03:02:26,959 --> 03:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Anyways, we made up, and shortly thereafter I got random 3798 03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:32,800 Speaker 2: text from her telling me that she got my number 3799 03:02:32,920 --> 03:02:36,560 Speaker 2: from someone else. Third thing that I found strange. 3800 03:02:37,200 --> 03:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Everyone's getting this guy's number from a second party. 3801 03:02:41,320 --> 03:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Again, he's a little he's a little beautiful, so it's hard. 3802 03:02:44,200 --> 03:02:45,000 Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. 3803 03:02:45,160 --> 03:02:45,320 Speaker 3: Yes. 3804 03:02:46,440 --> 03:02:49,760 Speaker 2: The text started pretty infrequent, but gradually progressed or her 3805 03:02:49,840 --> 03:02:53,680 Speaker 2: texting him every single day, double texting and all. She 3806 03:02:53,840 --> 03:02:57,480 Speaker 2: even seemed really pressed about me meeting her parents when 3807 03:02:57,520 --> 03:03:00,200 Speaker 2: they came into town. Again me being you know, the 3808 03:03:00,520 --> 03:03:03,400 Speaker 2: not a fair partner. Yes, the gorgeous guy. I am 3809 03:03:03,520 --> 03:03:06,120 Speaker 2: still not sure that what that was even about. But 3810 03:03:06,200 --> 03:03:09,160 Speaker 2: I dodged invite and it never happened. So he was 3811 03:03:09,200 --> 03:03:10,200 Speaker 2: the reason that never happened. 3812 03:03:10,200 --> 03:03:10,480 Speaker 3: Good to know. 3813 03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Hey, At this point, it seemed like she was very 3814 03:03:13,560 --> 03:03:16,200 Speaker 2: interested in me, but I was, But I wasn't very 3815 03:03:16,280 --> 03:03:20,000 Speaker 2: responsive over text because she is married. Over time, however, 3816 03:03:20,440 --> 03:03:24,080 Speaker 2: my wall broke down slowly because I did enjoy the attention. 3817 03:03:24,800 --> 03:03:27,440 Speaker 2: She's inviting me to hang out one on one playing 3818 03:03:27,560 --> 03:03:30,120 Speaker 2: cards with me, offering to bake me cookies. 3819 03:03:32,600 --> 03:03:35,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just good old fashioned cards. 3820 03:03:36,840 --> 03:03:39,360 Speaker 2: We asked people to I don't know if we had any, 3821 03:03:39,440 --> 03:03:42,520 Speaker 2: but put in euphemisms for card games that they had. 3822 03:03:43,640 --> 03:03:45,800 Speaker 2: We did fight, We did see Egyptian rat screw. 3823 03:03:47,360 --> 03:03:49,000 Speaker 4: Oh is that a joke? I thought you? 3824 03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:49,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 3825 03:03:49,959 --> 03:03:51,200 Speaker 1: No, Oh no, that was. 3826 03:03:52,840 --> 03:03:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Gyptian rat slab and Egyptian rat screw. 3827 03:03:55,520 --> 03:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Well those both work in that and that's the. 3828 03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Poker. There you go. 3829 03:04:01,320 --> 03:04:03,599 Speaker 3: Okay, space spades, spades. 3830 03:04:03,560 --> 03:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Question mark. 3831 03:04:04,520 --> 03:04:06,840 Speaker 5: I think baby slapped jack. 3832 03:04:08,680 --> 03:04:11,279 Speaker 3: There we go, some someone's jack is getting slapped. 3833 03:04:11,920 --> 03:04:14,560 Speaker 2: She told me how upset she was over the fact 3834 03:04:14,640 --> 03:04:17,920 Speaker 2: that apparently you two had planned a trip for Thanksgiving 3835 03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:20,640 Speaker 2: to see her friends, but didn't end up going because 3836 03:04:20,680 --> 03:04:23,480 Speaker 2: of a tight budget. She also told me that she 3837 03:04:23,480 --> 03:04:27,040 Speaker 2: would sleep on the couch a lot. This is a 3838 03:04:27,080 --> 03:04:30,039 Speaker 2: lot of information to share in your class. 3839 03:04:30,160 --> 03:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3840 03:04:32,120 --> 03:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Nice. We didn't talk much over the final exams due 3841 03:04:35,040 --> 03:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to being busy, and we really didn't talk much over 3842 03:04:37,000 --> 03:04:39,879 Speaker 2: the winter break. However, at the start of the new semester, 3843 03:04:40,240 --> 03:04:43,640 Speaker 2: the texting all day, every day and double texting came 3844 03:04:43,720 --> 03:04:46,680 Speaker 2: back in full force. At this point I kind of 3845 03:04:46,760 --> 03:04:50,920 Speaker 2: felt like she was pursuing me, but I enjoyed the attention. 3846 03:04:51,440 --> 03:04:53,440 Speaker 2: She baked me the cookies the first week of school, 3847 03:04:53,800 --> 03:04:56,120 Speaker 2: brought them over and sat on my bed for over 3848 03:04:56,280 --> 03:05:02,800 Speaker 2: two hours, but nothing physical happen, but she wanted something 3849 03:05:02,879 --> 03:05:04,959 Speaker 2: physical to happen for sure. You don't sit on someone's 3850 03:05:05,000 --> 03:05:07,519 Speaker 2: bed for two hours, it's comfortable. 3851 03:05:08,959 --> 03:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Two hours before the party that yeah, for two minutes, 3852 03:05:12,879 --> 03:05:15,840 Speaker 4: Like come on, yeah, she's not she's not interested in 3853 03:05:15,879 --> 03:05:17,080 Speaker 4: relationship with her husband anymore. 3854 03:05:17,120 --> 03:05:20,600 Speaker 2: Does Well, here's here's what a beautiful man goes on 3855 03:05:20,680 --> 03:05:24,160 Speaker 2: to say. She honestly didn't seem interested and sex at all, 3856 03:05:24,640 --> 03:05:26,480 Speaker 2: even though I kind of wanted it to happen at 3857 03:05:26,480 --> 03:05:30,640 Speaker 2: that point. But here we are now she still texts 3858 03:05:30,680 --> 03:05:33,520 Speaker 2: me every day, and honestly it has become more frequent 3859 03:05:33,640 --> 03:05:38,000 Speaker 2: than ever before. That is the end of beautiful Man's story. 3860 03:05:38,680 --> 03:05:40,280 Speaker 2: Maybe we take a quick pause right there. 3861 03:05:41,480 --> 03:05:45,800 Speaker 4: The beautiful man, I think regardless of whether it's like 3862 03:05:45,879 --> 03:05:48,800 Speaker 4: there's a physical aspect to the relationship, I think it's 3863 03:05:48,800 --> 03:05:49,720 Speaker 4: still emotion cheating. 3864 03:05:50,720 --> 03:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like it's I think at this point, like 3865 03:05:55,280 --> 03:05:58,440 Speaker 2: do we think I mean, definitely the woman has like 3866 03:05:58,640 --> 03:06:02,440 Speaker 2: pursued him heavily by is a beautiful man still in 3867 03:06:02,760 --> 03:06:06,199 Speaker 2: the wrong here? I mean I think. 3868 03:06:07,560 --> 03:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Slightly, slightly because he knew. 3869 03:06:09,920 --> 03:06:12,000 Speaker 4: Slightly because he knew that there was a husband in 3870 03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:14,640 Speaker 4: the picture. But I think it's like obviously more on 3871 03:06:15,240 --> 03:06:17,280 Speaker 4: the people in the relationships. 3872 03:06:17,600 --> 03:06:20,200 Speaker 2: From a woman's perspective, from a woman, a woman, I 3873 03:06:20,280 --> 03:06:23,280 Speaker 2: am a woman what do you think, uh beautiful man 3874 03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:24,120 Speaker 2: should have done. 3875 03:06:27,560 --> 03:06:30,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been in this situation where, like I thought, 3876 03:06:30,520 --> 03:06:34,760 Speaker 4: I was like talking to someone in like a friendship aspect, 3877 03:06:34,840 --> 03:06:35,800 Speaker 4: you had a partner. 3878 03:06:37,800 --> 03:06:38,960 Speaker 2: Are we talking about Belgium? 3879 03:06:39,000 --> 03:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Boy? This is a different scenario where. 3880 03:06:41,879 --> 03:06:45,480 Speaker 4: This happened because I thought because like we were, we 3881 03:06:45,600 --> 03:06:50,200 Speaker 4: had like the you know, theater stuff, so I would 3882 03:06:50,200 --> 03:06:52,760 Speaker 4: see him reach all the time, and so I was like, yeah, 3883 03:06:52,760 --> 03:06:54,520 Speaker 4: this is my friend. And I literally like I was like, 3884 03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:57,600 Speaker 4: this is my older brother type figure, right, And I 3885 03:06:57,680 --> 03:06:59,920 Speaker 4: remember actually one time he was like, I'm not your 3886 03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:02,400 Speaker 4: older brother with which should have been his son. You 3887 03:07:02,480 --> 03:07:05,119 Speaker 4: really on him well because. 3888 03:07:07,080 --> 03:07:09,720 Speaker 2: And he was older than me, he was in a relationship, Okay. 3889 03:07:10,040 --> 03:07:13,160 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we were pals. And then I 3890 03:07:13,200 --> 03:07:14,760 Speaker 4: found out that he cheated on his girlfriend, and I 3891 03:07:14,840 --> 03:07:17,600 Speaker 4: was like, he's getting a little too you know friendly. 3892 03:07:17,680 --> 03:07:19,560 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, this, yeah, so I would have 3893 03:07:19,600 --> 03:07:21,360 Speaker 4: pulled if I was gorgeous guy, I would have. 3894 03:07:21,360 --> 03:07:22,360 Speaker 3: Pulled back, pulled back. 3895 03:07:22,680 --> 03:07:24,160 Speaker 1: How is he getting too friendly? What happened? 3896 03:07:24,520 --> 03:07:26,160 Speaker 4: He was not not in the sense that he was, 3897 03:07:26,240 --> 03:07:28,640 Speaker 4: you know, trying to start anything, but he was texting 3898 03:07:28,680 --> 03:07:30,560 Speaker 4: me a lot and stuff, and I was like, and 3899 03:07:31,040 --> 03:07:33,359 Speaker 4: after I found out that he had cheated on his girlfriend. 3900 03:07:33,000 --> 03:07:35,080 Speaker 3: I was like, this, you know it, all the glass 3901 03:07:35,160 --> 03:07:35,560 Speaker 3: was broken. 3902 03:07:35,720 --> 03:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3903 03:07:36,040 --> 03:07:37,360 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if this guy wants 3904 03:07:37,360 --> 03:07:38,000 Speaker 4: to be friends with me. 3905 03:07:39,000 --> 03:07:41,000 Speaker 1: He wanted more, but can you also tell your Belgian 3906 03:07:41,040 --> 03:07:45,320 Speaker 1: boys story so that I don't know? Yeah, both people 3907 03:07:45,360 --> 03:07:46,720 Speaker 1: haven't heard. I love that story. 3908 03:07:47,280 --> 03:07:48,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't even relate. 3909 03:07:48,800 --> 03:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it does. He had a girlfriend, yeah, okay, and 3910 03:07:52,160 --> 03:07:53,120 Speaker 1: then she texted you. 3911 03:07:53,440 --> 03:07:56,560 Speaker 4: Okay, do we save it for half of the story? 3912 03:07:57,280 --> 03:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Okay, story time? Okay, story time? 3913 03:07:59,040 --> 03:07:59,680 Speaker 4: It slightly doesn't. 3914 03:07:59,680 --> 03:08:01,880 Speaker 2: Really, that's right, And Sam, you have been gifted your 3915 03:08:01,920 --> 03:08:07,720 Speaker 2: phone back. Congratulations. Yes, so all right, here we are 3916 03:08:07,840 --> 03:08:10,720 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, just heard beautiful man's story. Now we're 3917 03:08:10,760 --> 03:08:14,080 Speaker 2: back to Ope. This seems pretty consistent with the text 3918 03:08:14,240 --> 03:08:17,320 Speaker 2: that I read as well. I don't really know what 3919 03:08:17,520 --> 03:08:19,360 Speaker 2: to think of this, but it kind of seems like 3920 03:08:19,440 --> 03:08:21,640 Speaker 2: she's playing the long game with him in order to 3921 03:08:21,680 --> 03:08:23,880 Speaker 2: get him to fall in love with her so she 3922 03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:26,959 Speaker 2: can leave me. I appreciate the guy's willingness to meet 3923 03:08:27,000 --> 03:08:29,400 Speaker 2: with me, and honestly, I do believe what he is 3924 03:08:29,480 --> 03:08:32,080 Speaker 2: telling me. Seems like this is beyond the point of 3925 03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:35,880 Speaker 2: no return. I plan on talking to her tomorrow, but 3926 03:08:36,080 --> 03:08:38,640 Speaker 2: I think that this is it for me. I don't 3927 03:08:38,640 --> 03:08:40,959 Speaker 2: think there's anything she can say that will change my mind. 3928 03:08:41,000 --> 03:08:43,880 Speaker 2: At this point, it's over. I will give an update 3929 03:08:44,120 --> 03:08:46,320 Speaker 2: if I feel up to it. And ladies and gentlemen, 3930 03:08:46,400 --> 03:08:49,160 Speaker 2: there is another update. 3931 03:08:49,040 --> 03:08:52,080 Speaker 4: Also a non Reddit poster. Hit is Live. 3932 03:08:52,480 --> 03:08:56,879 Speaker 1: It's so freakin' live. Yeah, lady hike. Okay, story time, 3933 03:08:56,920 --> 03:08:58,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Sophia's Belgian story. 3934 03:08:58,959 --> 03:09:02,280 Speaker 4: He's three pm Pacific Standard time. 3935 03:09:02,440 --> 03:09:07,200 Speaker 3: Yes, come into your live. Yeah, so okay, starting time? 3936 03:09:08,040 --> 03:09:09,680 Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes. 3937 03:09:10,640 --> 03:09:14,600 Speaker 4: Anyway, I was in London with Sam and we met 3938 03:09:14,760 --> 03:09:18,520 Speaker 4: this guy from Belgium and I chatted with him and 3939 03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:22,880 Speaker 4: he was being dirty and then I followed him on 3940 03:09:23,080 --> 03:09:25,320 Speaker 4: Instagram and immediately saw that he had a girlfriend. So 3941 03:09:25,360 --> 03:09:29,080 Speaker 4: I was like no, and so then he kept trying 3942 03:09:29,080 --> 03:09:30,480 Speaker 4: to text me and I was like, I'm not interested. 3943 03:09:31,120 --> 03:09:34,480 Speaker 4: And then a couple months later I received a random 3944 03:09:34,600 --> 03:09:38,080 Speaker 4: DM from this girl and I was like, who is this? 3945 03:09:38,200 --> 03:09:41,200 Speaker 4: And so I accepted it because I saw that she 3946 03:09:41,360 --> 03:09:46,640 Speaker 4: was following the guy, and she basically, very nicely, was like, hey, 3947 03:09:47,320 --> 03:09:49,920 Speaker 4: I just wanted to ask if you know, like I 3948 03:09:50,040 --> 03:09:52,320 Speaker 4: know that my boyfriend met you in London, which I 3949 03:09:52,360 --> 03:09:56,800 Speaker 4: didn't know how she knew because we didn't follow. Yeah, 3950 03:09:56,840 --> 03:09:58,400 Speaker 4: I guess we're following each other. But I only saw 3951 03:09:58,480 --> 03:10:02,480 Speaker 4: him for one day, and she was like, did anything happen? 3952 03:10:02,720 --> 03:10:04,320 Speaker 4: Like I just want to know, like I'm not sure 3953 03:10:04,360 --> 03:10:07,600 Speaker 4: if something's going on, and I was like, nothing happened. 3954 03:10:08,120 --> 03:10:10,879 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I hope everything's okay. But I feel 3955 03:10:10,879 --> 03:10:12,600 Speaker 4: like he was probably you know, he probably she'd done 3956 03:10:12,640 --> 03:10:13,879 Speaker 4: her if she was asking those questions. 3957 03:10:14,160 --> 03:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3958 03:10:15,600 --> 03:10:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's the long and short of it of 3959 03:10:18,080 --> 03:10:19,480 Speaker 4: the Belgian Boys story. 3960 03:10:19,680 --> 03:10:22,920 Speaker 2: The Belgian Boys story. By the way, I love Fried 3961 03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:25,480 Speaker 2: Chickens said they have a story. If you all watching 3962 03:10:25,560 --> 03:10:28,760 Speaker 2: right now have a story, please share it in the 3963 03:10:28,800 --> 03:10:32,040 Speaker 2: comments below and we just might take a look at it. 3964 03:10:33,000 --> 03:10:36,800 Speaker 3: Kaz also has a story. So guys, chumps, bring them on. 3965 03:10:36,959 --> 03:10:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chump says, it's ten forty four am Australian Eastern daylights. 3966 03:10:40,760 --> 03:10:42,640 Speaker 3: Ay, shout out to you, chumps. 3967 03:10:43,200 --> 03:10:47,280 Speaker 4: Let's go, and it's hold on, hold on, and hold on, 3968 03:10:47,440 --> 03:10:49,960 Speaker 4: World o'clock, New York at six forty five pm, Los 3969 03:10:50,000 --> 03:10:53,360 Speaker 4: Angeles be already established Melbourne. Yeah, it's ten forty five 3970 03:10:53,560 --> 03:10:54,720 Speaker 4: London eleven forty five. 3971 03:10:55,200 --> 03:10:57,520 Speaker 3: All right, now is that a thing now we read 3972 03:10:58,400 --> 03:11:00,800 Speaker 3: times is proved that lies? 3973 03:11:01,120 --> 03:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Yes, in case you in case. 3974 03:11:02,720 --> 03:11:03,880 Speaker 3: You were confused. Y. 3975 03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:05,760 Speaker 4: So now now we're up to date. 3976 03:11:06,280 --> 03:11:07,920 Speaker 3: But you know what else is up to date? 3977 03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:12,119 Speaker 4: This next up update up to date, up to date. 3978 03:11:15,520 --> 03:11:16,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So. 3979 03:11:18,040 --> 03:11:23,040 Speaker 2: I had the talk with her yesterday, the talk, and 3980 03:11:24,120 --> 03:11:28,560 Speaker 2: it's over. Yeah, as crazy as it is. The guy 3981 03:11:28,720 --> 03:11:31,280 Speaker 2: actually didn't give her any heads up that we met, 3982 03:11:31,520 --> 03:11:32,840 Speaker 2: which I appreciated. 3983 03:11:33,800 --> 03:11:37,000 Speaker 4: Which in all that time texting, I wonder if they 3984 03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:39,760 Speaker 4: were still texting after they met up or if he 3985 03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:41,440 Speaker 4: was like, I'm not going to text her at all. 3986 03:11:41,840 --> 03:11:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he didn't message her about that 3987 03:11:45,760 --> 03:11:48,520 Speaker 2: heads up, so it might have just been ready, might 3988 03:11:48,640 --> 03:11:51,520 Speaker 2: have been Basically, I sat with her at the dining 3989 03:11:51,560 --> 03:11:53,920 Speaker 2: room table and started by telling her I heard what's 3990 03:11:53,959 --> 03:11:54,800 Speaker 2: going on with. 3991 03:11:54,920 --> 03:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Her and beautiful man, beautiful man. 3992 03:11:57,760 --> 03:11:59,920 Speaker 2: When she asked what I was talking about, I kind 3993 03:11:59,959 --> 03:12:02,520 Speaker 2: of just went through all the highlights of the emotional affair, 3994 03:12:02,879 --> 03:12:06,800 Speaker 2: highlighting the cookie situation, meeting the parents, in cessant texting, 3995 03:12:07,160 --> 03:12:10,080 Speaker 2: disguising him as just a friend, et cetera, et cetera. 3996 03:12:10,560 --> 03:12:12,280 Speaker 2: When I told her that it seemed to me as 3997 03:12:12,320 --> 03:12:14,680 Speaker 2: if she was obsessed with the guy, maybe even in 3998 03:12:14,840 --> 03:12:19,400 Speaker 2: love with him, and seemingly planning for my replacement. She 3999 03:12:19,680 --> 03:12:25,040 Speaker 2: immediately broke down crying. Ooh. I almost felt kind of bad, 4000 03:12:25,360 --> 03:12:29,160 Speaker 2: but also didn't at the same time. She then told 4001 03:12:29,240 --> 03:12:31,800 Speaker 2: me that she only did it because she liked the 4002 03:12:31,879 --> 03:12:34,840 Speaker 2: attention and nothing more, and that she would cut him 4003 03:12:34,879 --> 03:12:38,640 Speaker 2: off immediately. I shook my head. 4004 03:12:39,040 --> 03:12:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's too little, too late. 4005 03:12:40,840 --> 03:12:44,560 Speaker 2: Too little too late. Is there anything that she could 4006 03:12:44,640 --> 03:12:48,920 Speaker 2: do to, like, even attempt to salvage what's happened. 4007 03:12:48,600 --> 03:12:51,640 Speaker 4: At this point, only if he had been more receptive 4008 03:12:51,720 --> 03:12:52,959 Speaker 4: to it, But it seems like he's. 4009 03:12:52,879 --> 03:12:55,040 Speaker 3: Already Yeah, he kind of made up his mind. 4010 03:12:55,120 --> 03:12:56,959 Speaker 4: He had already made up his mind before this. Yeah, 4011 03:12:57,640 --> 03:13:00,480 Speaker 4: if he had been like, like, is this I don't know, 4012 03:13:00,959 --> 03:13:02,560 Speaker 4: if you had gone into it with a little bit 4013 03:13:02,560 --> 03:13:05,080 Speaker 4: more hesitancy, But it seems like he just wanted to 4014 03:13:05,160 --> 03:13:08,280 Speaker 4: tell her that he knew. Yeah, see how you know? 4015 03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he like if he came in and gave her 4016 03:13:10,879 --> 03:13:12,280 Speaker 3: room to try to be like, all right, I earn 4017 03:13:12,360 --> 03:13:14,880 Speaker 3: my trust back or something, then it's like, okay, I 4018 03:13:14,959 --> 03:13:16,920 Speaker 3: could try to do something. 4019 03:13:16,800 --> 03:13:17,440 Speaker 4: But I don't think so. 4020 03:13:18,200 --> 03:13:18,680 Speaker 3: It's tough. 4021 03:13:19,879 --> 03:13:23,400 Speaker 2: She offered to find a couple's therapists, which while still 4022 03:13:23,480 --> 03:13:26,360 Speaker 2: belligerently crying, and I told her it seems like we 4023 03:13:26,440 --> 03:13:30,200 Speaker 2: are past that point already. Didn't really care whether she 4024 03:13:30,400 --> 03:13:33,320 Speaker 2: slept with a guy or not. This emotional situation was 4025 03:13:33,520 --> 03:13:36,840 Speaker 2: enough for me. I told her I'll be contacting an 4026 03:13:36,840 --> 03:13:39,119 Speaker 2: attorney this week and that she should do the same. 4027 03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Remember there married, yeah, in a relation. I forgot for 4028 03:13:42,240 --> 03:13:45,040 Speaker 2: a second too, honestly, and I walked out the door 4029 03:13:45,280 --> 03:13:48,360 Speaker 2: with her chasing me. I didn't have anywhere to go, 4030 03:13:48,760 --> 03:13:51,200 Speaker 2: but I needed to just leave before she tried me, 4031 03:13:52,120 --> 03:13:54,720 Speaker 2: before she tried to convince me any further to stay. 4032 03:13:55,080 --> 03:13:58,640 Speaker 2: I didn't want to hear any bs received. Doesn't of 4033 03:13:58,760 --> 03:14:03,840 Speaker 2: calls say again another card? Another card game? God, please, 4034 03:14:04,520 --> 03:14:08,200 Speaker 2: somebody finished it already. We know who the joker in 4035 03:14:08,280 --> 03:14:08,520 Speaker 2: the deck? 4036 03:14:08,680 --> 03:14:12,680 Speaker 4: Wash? Who's the beautiful man? 4037 03:14:13,640 --> 03:14:17,279 Speaker 3: Dang, he's the king damage he's too beautiful. 4038 03:14:18,280 --> 03:14:20,760 Speaker 2: I received dozens of calls and texts while I was gone, 4039 03:14:20,840 --> 03:14:23,320 Speaker 2: and when I came back, she seemed devastated. 4040 03:14:23,400 --> 03:14:23,680 Speaker 3: Still. 4041 03:14:24,040 --> 03:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I got calls from her parents to day as well, 4042 03:14:25,959 --> 03:14:28,000 Speaker 2: which I ignored. I haven't kicked her out of the 4043 03:14:28,040 --> 03:14:30,360 Speaker 2: house or anything, not really sure what I want to 4044 03:14:30,440 --> 03:14:33,440 Speaker 2: do about that. Yet I don't want her to be 4045 03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:35,480 Speaker 2: with I don't want her to be this guy or 4046 03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:38,600 Speaker 2: anyone else's burden. I'm just kind of feeling lost at 4047 03:14:38,640 --> 03:14:42,240 Speaker 2: the at this point, it's wild, how truly absurd this 4048 03:14:42,560 --> 03:14:46,080 Speaker 2: just ended After all this time. I moved to the 4049 03:14:46,160 --> 03:14:50,360 Speaker 2: state solely to support her, and now I'm just here. 4050 03:14:50,959 --> 03:14:53,520 Speaker 2: The majority of my friends and family are still across 4051 03:14:53,560 --> 03:14:56,240 Speaker 2: the country. Maybe I should have seen the writing on 4052 03:14:56,280 --> 03:14:59,600 Speaker 2: the wall. Our relationship wasn't perfect. I've been pretty busy 4053 03:14:59,600 --> 03:15:01,680 Speaker 2: over the last year or so with work, and it 4054 03:15:01,760 --> 03:15:04,160 Speaker 2: seems like she took every chance she could to go 4055 03:15:04,240 --> 03:15:07,800 Speaker 2: to every single school party slash outing she could without 4056 03:15:07,879 --> 03:15:13,160 Speaker 2: inviting me. Ninety five percent of the time. Ouch, she 4057 03:15:13,320 --> 03:15:15,920 Speaker 2: was never home, and every time I asked any questions, 4058 03:15:16,040 --> 03:15:19,119 Speaker 2: she would chalk it up to studying quote unquote. How 4059 03:15:19,240 --> 03:15:22,160 Speaker 2: could I really argue with that when she's in grad school. 4060 03:15:24,360 --> 03:15:26,560 Speaker 2: It may not be entirely her fault. But I'm glad 4061 03:15:26,600 --> 03:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm getting But I'm glad I'm getting out of us 4062 03:15:28,720 --> 03:15:31,600 Speaker 2: before it got any worse. Three years isn't a crazy 4063 03:15:31,640 --> 03:15:33,879 Speaker 2: amount of time, and now it's time to go find 4064 03:15:33,920 --> 03:15:37,000 Speaker 2: myself again. This does suck, though, Thank you all for 4065 03:15:37,160 --> 03:15:39,920 Speaker 2: your support. This has really helped me come to terms 4066 03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:42,039 Speaker 2: with this ending. 4067 03:15:43,400 --> 03:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 4068 03:15:44,120 --> 03:15:46,360 Speaker 4: No, I think I think she had a lot of 4069 03:15:46,400 --> 03:15:49,720 Speaker 4: red flags and she wasn't really focused on the relationship 4070 03:15:49,840 --> 03:15:50,680 Speaker 4: for a while, it seems. 4071 03:15:51,160 --> 03:15:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least I'm curious on would you all stay 4072 03:15:57,680 --> 03:16:04,320 Speaker 2: or work on the reallyationship? Because nice to producer Riley 4073 03:16:04,480 --> 03:16:05,640 Speaker 2: just on top of his game. 4074 03:16:06,440 --> 03:16:07,240 Speaker 3: Oh so we have a few. 4075 03:16:07,280 --> 03:16:10,840 Speaker 2: Then Burning Rose says she's not sorry it happened. She's 4076 03:16:11,040 --> 03:16:15,680 Speaker 2: sorry that she got caught. Yeah, I mean it kind 4077 03:16:15,720 --> 03:16:19,120 Speaker 2: of seems like that is the case. And then uh, 4078 03:16:20,520 --> 03:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Karima Corenza Bond says, Burning Rose, you one hundred percent right, 4079 03:16:24,879 --> 03:16:26,560 Speaker 2: so basically. 4080 03:16:26,480 --> 03:16:27,800 Speaker 3: Uh plus wanting that. 4081 03:16:29,080 --> 03:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Soriah Jade says she would have absolutely eventually slept with 4082 03:16:33,200 --> 03:16:36,560 Speaker 2: beautiful man if she hadn't have got caught. Look, it's 4083 03:16:36,640 --> 03:16:37,640 Speaker 2: hard to resist. 4084 03:16:37,320 --> 03:16:39,840 Speaker 3: Sleep sleeping with beautiful man. If I do say so myself, 4085 03:16:40,360 --> 03:16:42,400 Speaker 3: it's it's it's really tough. 4086 03:16:44,560 --> 03:16:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's tough that he like he moved out 4087 03:16:46,480 --> 03:16:48,879 Speaker 4: to this place and then she didn't try to include 4088 03:16:48,920 --> 03:16:49,959 Speaker 4: him in her life at all. 4089 03:16:50,480 --> 03:16:54,480 Speaker 5: And like another point is like Bro's like thirty because 4090 03:16:54,480 --> 03:16:57,440 Speaker 5: she's twenty five, and everyone that's like in college is like, yeah, 4091 03:16:57,480 --> 03:16:58,800 Speaker 5: well on a college scene, you know. 4092 03:16:59,280 --> 03:17:02,080 Speaker 4: It is school. So I mean based off of like 4093 03:17:02,160 --> 03:17:05,120 Speaker 4: theater grad school, there are it ranges from you know, 4094 03:17:06,080 --> 03:17:09,320 Speaker 4: mid twenties to thirties. Yeah, I just broke something. 4095 03:17:09,520 --> 03:17:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's okay, we can destroy the Harry Potter Fortress. 4096 03:17:12,840 --> 03:17:16,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that there's I don't think his 4097 03:17:16,959 --> 03:17:20,320 Speaker 4: age would have been a huge problem problem in grad school. 4098 03:17:20,360 --> 03:17:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's probably people in grad school I guess that 4099 03:17:22,040 --> 03:17:24,600 Speaker 3: are like twenty eight or I know. 4100 03:17:24,680 --> 03:17:27,560 Speaker 4: Thirty year olds in you see it's grad school. 4101 03:17:28,200 --> 03:17:29,600 Speaker 2: True and over thirty true. 4102 03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know people who were in their like forties 4103 03:17:32,160 --> 03:17:35,560 Speaker 4: who were in undergrad So you know, I yeah, I 4104 03:17:35,600 --> 03:17:38,040 Speaker 4: think it's like less of a deal, especially in grad school. 4105 03:17:38,360 --> 03:17:38,880 Speaker 4: Your age. 4106 03:17:39,240 --> 03:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're a beautiful man, yeah, that's all 4107 03:17:42,879 --> 03:17:47,039 Speaker 2: that matters. That is really all that matters. That really 4108 03:17:47,080 --> 03:17:49,800 Speaker 2: sucks for But you know what else matters a lot? 4109 03:17:50,280 --> 03:17:52,360 Speaker 2: This next story, this next story. 4110 03:17:52,600 --> 03:17:54,119 Speaker 3: Do we need to queue it up here? 4111 03:17:54,440 --> 03:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. 4112 03:17:56,640 --> 03:18:03,440 Speaker 3: Three hundo and story number two. Here we go, Sophia, 4113 03:18:03,640 --> 03:18:04,800 Speaker 3: the floor is yours, thank you? 4114 03:18:05,040 --> 03:18:08,520 Speaker 4: Mm hm oh right, am I the a hole for 4115 03:18:08,640 --> 03:18:12,440 Speaker 4: overreacting to my wife's friends. Oh, to my wife's friends 4116 03:18:12,520 --> 03:18:17,760 Speaker 4: snooping on my laptop? No, I think, what's your thoughts 4117 03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:18,600 Speaker 4: before we get into it? 4118 03:18:18,720 --> 03:18:20,959 Speaker 2: If the if the wife's friend is snooping on the laptop, 4119 03:18:21,600 --> 03:18:25,320 Speaker 2: don't don't why why why are you snooping on my laptop? 4120 03:18:25,480 --> 03:18:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 4121 03:18:25,959 --> 03:18:29,600 Speaker 2: That's right, d Yeah, it's like yeah. Is it almost 4122 03:18:29,720 --> 03:18:31,480 Speaker 2: worse that it's like the wife's friend and not. 4123 03:18:31,520 --> 03:18:32,160 Speaker 3: Even the wife. 4124 03:18:32,240 --> 03:18:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, because she's sending someone else to do well, we 4125 03:18:34,760 --> 03:18:35,160 Speaker 4: don't know this. 4126 03:18:35,400 --> 03:18:35,720 Speaker 2: We don't know. 4127 03:18:35,920 --> 03:18:37,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to make assumptions. Good conspiracy theory, but 4128 03:18:38,080 --> 03:18:42,080 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, maybe she's sending him. Maybe, but 4129 03:18:42,879 --> 03:18:43,560 Speaker 4: let's read on. 4130 03:18:43,760 --> 03:18:45,400 Speaker 3: It's fine, I do it so. 4131 03:18:45,720 --> 03:18:49,600 Speaker 4: Level reaction forty five sixty nine says I twenty six male, 4132 03:18:49,720 --> 03:18:52,080 Speaker 4: have been with my wife, twenty four female for a 4133 03:18:52,120 --> 03:18:55,119 Speaker 4: little under five years, dating for three, engaged for one, 4134 03:18:55,240 --> 03:18:58,000 Speaker 4: and married just under one. She is the love of 4135 03:18:58,040 --> 03:18:59,640 Speaker 4: my life and I know her like the back of 4136 03:18:59,720 --> 03:19:01,800 Speaker 4: my hand, and I know her needs. Once when she 4137 03:19:01,840 --> 03:19:04,160 Speaker 4: would prefer water over diet coke, when she is starting 4138 03:19:04,200 --> 03:19:07,480 Speaker 4: to slip into a depressive state, anxiety triggers et cetera, 4139 03:19:08,840 --> 03:19:12,240 Speaker 4: pretty good he knows everything about his wife. 4140 03:19:12,360 --> 03:19:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 4141 03:19:13,280 --> 03:19:15,200 Speaker 4: One thing she's always worried about is that I will 4142 03:19:15,280 --> 03:19:18,279 Speaker 4: leave her or cheat on her. Her parents had issues, 4143 03:19:18,320 --> 03:19:20,480 Speaker 4: and she thinks I'll be the same. To combat this, 4144 03:19:20,800 --> 03:19:24,240 Speaker 4: she has full access to my phone and personal computer. However, 4145 03:19:24,480 --> 03:19:27,040 Speaker 4: my work computer is completely off limits due to the 4146 03:19:27,120 --> 03:19:30,040 Speaker 4: nature of my job. Ooh, what type of job is that? 4147 03:19:31,600 --> 03:19:32,840 Speaker 3: Secret nuclear missiles? 4148 03:19:33,920 --> 03:19:36,480 Speaker 4: And she's like, no, playing around with my computer. I 4149 03:19:36,600 --> 03:19:37,320 Speaker 4: launched the missile. 4150 03:19:37,440 --> 03:19:38,680 Speaker 2: If you want to live. 4151 03:19:40,040 --> 03:19:42,360 Speaker 4: That's I also, just before we go on, I think 4152 03:19:42,440 --> 03:19:46,160 Speaker 4: that's that's very kind of him to give her full access. 4153 03:19:46,200 --> 03:19:47,840 Speaker 4: But I think that's also something she should be in 4154 03:19:47,920 --> 03:19:51,000 Speaker 4: therapy for, Like, if you're expecting the worst out of relationship, 4155 03:19:52,280 --> 03:19:57,040 Speaker 4: then that's a great sung Yeah all right, so OPI continues. 4156 03:19:57,400 --> 03:19:59,600 Speaker 4: I recently got a promotion and now have people who 4157 03:19:59,720 --> 03:20:02,520 Speaker 4: report to me. One of these people is female. Sometimes, 4158 03:20:02,560 --> 03:20:04,720 Speaker 4: if I'm away from my computer and they have a question, 4159 03:20:04,879 --> 03:20:07,520 Speaker 4: they will call or text my personal phone and I 4160 03:20:07,680 --> 03:20:10,120 Speaker 4: typically reply with let me get online and we can 4161 03:20:10,200 --> 03:20:14,120 Speaker 4: talk over teams, our company's communication platform. Recently, she has 4162 03:20:14,160 --> 03:20:15,960 Speaker 4: looked through my phone and saw that the girl who 4163 03:20:16,080 --> 03:20:18,360 Speaker 4: reports to me has texted me quite a few times. 4164 03:20:18,560 --> 03:20:21,160 Speaker 4: Since she is new, and I always say I'll be online. 4165 03:20:21,200 --> 03:20:25,840 Speaker 4: Shortly my wife showed my Uh my wife showed her 4166 03:20:25,879 --> 03:20:27,920 Speaker 4: friends the text thread and they all think that it 4167 03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:30,200 Speaker 4: is sus and they were talking about stuff on the 4168 03:20:30,240 --> 03:20:33,440 Speaker 4: one device. I never let my wife see. When this 4169 03:20:33,680 --> 03:20:35,640 Speaker 4: is brought to my attention, I showed her text for 4170 03:20:35,760 --> 03:20:38,480 Speaker 4: my other reports. And I always say I'll talk online. 4171 03:20:40,879 --> 03:20:43,480 Speaker 4: There's just so much lack of trust in this relationship. 4172 03:20:43,640 --> 03:20:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 4173 03:20:44,440 --> 03:20:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. The reason I always say I'll talk online is 4174 03:20:48,000 --> 03:20:50,520 Speaker 4: because of the technical data I deal with. My company 4175 03:20:50,600 --> 03:20:54,080 Speaker 4: takes cybersecurity very seriously. To log in in the morning, 4176 03:20:54,120 --> 03:20:56,320 Speaker 4: there are three passwords I need to input. Because it 4177 03:20:56,400 --> 03:20:58,560 Speaker 4: takes so long to log in, I typically will just 4178 03:20:58,640 --> 03:21:01,360 Speaker 4: turn off my screen. I walk away instead of looking 4179 03:21:01,520 --> 03:21:04,320 Speaker 4: locking it. I figure I am in my own house 4180 03:21:04,400 --> 03:21:06,840 Speaker 4: and typically the only people with me are my dogs 4181 03:21:06,959 --> 03:21:09,400 Speaker 4: or my wife. Can you trust the dogs though, No, 4182 03:21:09,720 --> 03:21:13,360 Speaker 4: they're always snooping. It's obviously that movie Cats Versus Dogs. 4183 03:21:15,040 --> 03:21:17,000 Speaker 4: You're so right, Yeah, and the cats, I think we're 4184 03:21:17,040 --> 03:21:19,320 Speaker 4: trying to destroy the world. I think they were trying 4185 03:21:19,360 --> 03:21:20,600 Speaker 4: to start a nuclear war. 4186 03:21:20,720 --> 03:21:22,600 Speaker 3: Right, what's up with the cat? 4187 03:21:23,120 --> 03:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Don't? 4188 03:21:23,640 --> 03:21:24,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's fully true. 4189 03:21:24,800 --> 03:21:27,000 Speaker 3: But I think that's what we're going with that version 4190 03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:27,680 Speaker 3: of the True Cats. 4191 03:21:27,720 --> 03:21:29,360 Speaker 4: We're starting a cold war. 4192 03:21:29,800 --> 03:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it was very bad. 4193 03:21:33,480 --> 03:21:36,680 Speaker 2: I also have an okay story time related to Op's 4194 03:21:36,840 --> 03:21:37,520 Speaker 2: super secret. 4195 03:21:37,640 --> 03:21:40,840 Speaker 4: Okay, well, anyway, information. Let's see what happens if these 4196 03:21:40,920 --> 03:21:45,879 Speaker 4: dogs were the culprits. Let's see the other day, I'm 4197 03:21:45,920 --> 03:21:48,520 Speaker 4: working at my in my in home office while my 4198 03:21:48,600 --> 03:21:50,160 Speaker 4: wife has some friends over and I have to go 4199 03:21:50,240 --> 03:21:52,200 Speaker 4: to the bathroom, so I turn off my screen and 4200 03:21:52,280 --> 03:21:55,160 Speaker 4: go relieve myself. I decide to also grab a coffee 4201 03:21:55,200 --> 03:21:57,440 Speaker 4: from the kitchen, and when I come back, I see 4202 03:21:57,480 --> 03:21:59,920 Speaker 4: my wife at my desk with her friends around her. 4203 03:22:00,480 --> 03:22:02,880 Speaker 4: I flip out and ask what they think they're doing, 4204 03:22:03,080 --> 03:22:07,640 Speaker 4: and they're reading my messages with my coworkers. Again. These 4205 03:22:07,760 --> 03:22:11,320 Speaker 4: messages contain technical data that isn't open to the public. 4206 03:22:11,840 --> 03:22:13,400 Speaker 4: I kick her friends out of the house and tell 4207 03:22:13,440 --> 03:22:15,119 Speaker 4: them that they may have put my job in jeopardy 4208 03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:17,680 Speaker 4: since I now have to report a breach of security. 4209 03:22:18,080 --> 03:22:20,600 Speaker 4: Her friends argue they were just looking out for my wife, 4210 03:22:20,720 --> 03:22:25,920 Speaker 4: as it's suspicious. I always answer, on the computer, where else? 4211 03:22:26,080 --> 03:22:27,119 Speaker 3: Why is that suspicious? 4212 03:22:27,160 --> 03:22:29,400 Speaker 4: Where else? Would he answer? I? 4213 03:22:31,120 --> 03:22:34,680 Speaker 3: Like, who cares? What device? You're answering from yeah, right, 4214 03:22:35,200 --> 03:22:36,160 Speaker 3: this is like a word. 4215 03:22:36,000 --> 03:22:39,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. This is I understand that there might 4216 03:22:39,959 --> 03:22:42,800 Speaker 4: be cases where people are cheating, right, but like, if 4217 03:22:42,879 --> 03:22:45,320 Speaker 4: you have zero trust in your partner. 4218 03:22:46,400 --> 03:22:47,840 Speaker 3: What are we doing? What's the point? 4219 03:22:48,040 --> 03:22:51,720 Speaker 2: I also just put together that they're they're basically saying like, oh, 4220 03:22:51,840 --> 03:22:53,720 Speaker 2: you use this one device so you can hide all 4221 03:22:53,760 --> 03:22:54,520 Speaker 2: the messages and. 4222 03:22:54,680 --> 03:22:56,560 Speaker 4: Right right, right, yeah, but it's still like what like. 4223 03:22:58,080 --> 03:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Why why not just yeah, come on now? 4224 03:23:01,400 --> 03:23:03,440 Speaker 4: All in all, I kicked her friends out and told 4225 03:23:03,480 --> 03:23:05,680 Speaker 4: them to never come back. I caught my boss with 4226 03:23:05,800 --> 03:23:08,080 Speaker 4: my wife and told my boss everything and made my 4227 03:23:08,200 --> 03:23:11,920 Speaker 4: wife tell which tell me which conversation conversations she read 4228 03:23:12,280 --> 03:23:14,920 Speaker 4: to determine what she saw. My boss told me I 4229 03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:17,600 Speaker 4: got lucky and nothing too sensitive was in the messages 4230 03:23:17,680 --> 03:23:19,640 Speaker 4: and in private, he told me to go to couple's 4231 03:23:19,720 --> 03:23:24,720 Speaker 4: counseling my wife. My wife told her friends what I 4232 03:23:24,760 --> 03:23:26,840 Speaker 4: made her do, and they all think I overreacted and 4233 03:23:27,600 --> 03:23:30,880 Speaker 4: am a complete ass for embarrassing her. To my boss, No, 4234 03:23:31,120 --> 03:23:33,920 Speaker 4: I think that I think she deserved that. I think 4235 03:23:34,040 --> 03:23:36,360 Speaker 4: that this relationship I one. I think they need to 4236 03:23:36,400 --> 03:23:39,240 Speaker 4: go to coumple's counseling because this wife and this wife 4237 03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:42,280 Speaker 4: needs to go to therapy. Yes, definitely if you have 4238 03:23:42,440 --> 03:23:45,959 Speaker 4: zero trust in your relationship, it's just with no evidence. 4239 03:23:45,600 --> 03:23:47,400 Speaker 2: With no ope. Yeah, and just for like you as 4240 03:23:47,440 --> 03:23:50,160 Speaker 2: a person, like like being able to like you know, 4241 03:23:50,400 --> 03:23:53,480 Speaker 2: work through those issues and then live a life where 4242 03:23:53,520 --> 03:23:56,800 Speaker 2: you're not constantly like looking over someone's shoulder, just at 4243 03:23:56,840 --> 03:23:59,119 Speaker 2: least make make progress in the in the right direction. 4244 03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:01,720 Speaker 4: And the fact that the wife's friends were like encouraging 4245 03:24:01,800 --> 03:24:03,279 Speaker 4: this behavior is wild. 4246 03:24:03,720 --> 03:24:06,520 Speaker 2: I feel like I wonder if because we actually read 4247 03:24:06,520 --> 03:24:08,240 Speaker 2: a bunch of stories earlier today at the top of 4248 03:24:08,320 --> 03:24:12,400 Speaker 2: the stream where the friends were the one that were 4249 03:24:12,480 --> 03:24:15,520 Speaker 2: planting all of these ideas, Like it didn't come from 4250 03:24:15,760 --> 03:24:17,680 Speaker 2: like the wife of the significant other. It was like 4251 03:24:17,879 --> 03:24:22,200 Speaker 2: the friend or friend group, Yeah, feeding that information to them. 4252 03:24:22,320 --> 03:24:23,880 Speaker 4: It seems like they might have done that. I wouldn't 4253 03:24:23,920 --> 03:24:25,119 Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past. 4254 03:24:25,280 --> 03:24:26,680 Speaker 3: See is that the end of end of this story? 4255 03:24:26,800 --> 03:24:28,560 Speaker 4: That is the end of this story? 4256 03:24:28,680 --> 03:24:31,160 Speaker 2: Uhhh well, I do have an okay storytime related to this, 4257 03:24:31,520 --> 03:24:35,680 Speaker 2: so so obviously there's the breach of trust of going 4258 03:24:35,959 --> 03:24:40,200 Speaker 2: into the laptop, but a company I used to work 4259 03:24:40,280 --> 03:24:42,840 Speaker 2: for had I don't know if this is the same thing. 4260 03:24:42,920 --> 03:24:45,720 Speaker 2: It's called like sock two. It's basically like a big 4261 03:24:45,920 --> 03:24:49,320 Speaker 2: security thing, and they send people to your office and 4262 03:24:49,440 --> 03:24:53,240 Speaker 2: sometimes to your house like like to inspect your place, 4263 03:24:53,400 --> 03:24:56,600 Speaker 2: like house secure because think about like in this dude's case, 4264 03:24:56,840 --> 03:24:59,320 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, my house seems secure. But so they 4265 03:24:59,640 --> 03:25:02,600 Speaker 2: literally fly people out sometimes to inspect and be like 4266 03:25:02,800 --> 03:25:04,960 Speaker 2: is there any is there anything that might be a 4267 03:25:05,040 --> 03:25:06,480 Speaker 2: breach of security? 4268 03:25:06,959 --> 03:25:10,400 Speaker 4: And the whole zoom testing protocol, the. 4269 03:25:10,480 --> 03:25:11,560 Speaker 3: Zoom testing protocol. 4270 03:25:11,640 --> 03:25:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like they have they make you have the camera 4271 03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:16,720 Speaker 4: on oh mart. 4272 03:25:16,840 --> 03:25:23,440 Speaker 3: Smart z z okay ah, I found guys, I fell 4273 03:25:23,520 --> 03:25:23,720 Speaker 3: for it. 4274 03:25:24,280 --> 03:25:24,520 Speaker 4: I am. 4275 03:25:24,680 --> 03:25:27,400 Speaker 2: I am a millennial. Okay, all accept it? Can we 4276 03:25:27,480 --> 03:25:30,880 Speaker 2: accept millennial? Can we accept millennial? Come on? 4277 03:25:31,160 --> 03:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Ninety six? 4278 03:25:32,080 --> 03:25:34,880 Speaker 3: You can be a cusper cut That's what a millennial is. 4279 03:25:35,000 --> 03:25:38,360 Speaker 2: I know, but I don't like the words Elena, how 4280 03:25:38,440 --> 03:25:40,959 Speaker 2: millennial of me to say, Zeleni, y am I as millennial? 4281 03:25:41,040 --> 03:25:44,240 Speaker 4: Thanks Riley John, Now what's the cutoff? Because John says 4282 03:25:44,280 --> 03:25:48,080 Speaker 4: it's nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety six, nineteen 4283 03:25:48,120 --> 03:25:48,680 Speaker 4: ninety seven. 4284 03:25:49,400 --> 03:25:51,560 Speaker 2: Y'all don't even know how Back in the day people 4285 03:25:51,640 --> 03:25:55,040 Speaker 2: were throwing ninety six down, throwing down ninety six. Oh, 4286 03:25:55,160 --> 03:25:59,119 Speaker 2: it was crazy mad surveys and stuff saying nineteen ninety 4287 03:25:59,160 --> 03:26:02,280 Speaker 2: six is a cutoff from millennials. But now everyone switched up. 4288 03:26:02,520 --> 03:26:05,360 Speaker 2: Everyone switched up, and uh they said that all people 4289 03:26:05,400 --> 03:26:07,760 Speaker 2: are just people are just roasted me in the chat 4290 03:26:07,879 --> 03:26:08,160 Speaker 2: right now. 4291 03:26:08,320 --> 03:26:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Some people are saying that my 4292 03:26:11,280 --> 03:26:12,040 Speaker 4: mic is quiet. 4293 03:26:12,800 --> 03:26:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't know speak. 4294 03:26:14,800 --> 03:26:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm speaking fairly loud. 4295 03:26:17,200 --> 03:26:19,680 Speaker 3: Guys, how is how is the volume? 4296 03:26:19,800 --> 03:26:19,920 Speaker 1: Now? 4297 03:26:20,040 --> 03:26:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 4298 03:26:20,280 --> 03:26:20,640 Speaker 1: Let us know. 4299 03:26:21,480 --> 03:26:25,959 Speaker 2: Uh, it's ninety six ninety six is Isn't it all right? 4300 03:26:27,160 --> 03:26:28,840 Speaker 4: I'll give it to you John, that's right. 4301 03:26:28,920 --> 03:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh man. 4302 03:26:29,280 --> 03:26:30,640 Speaker 3: People are really going crazy. 4303 03:26:30,400 --> 03:26:34,040 Speaker 2: Over the gen Z minal thing Millennial light pausing a 4304 03:26:34,560 --> 03:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Milennial light upgrade. 4305 03:26:36,640 --> 03:26:38,800 Speaker 4: To pro everyone wants to be a gen Z. 4306 03:26:39,840 --> 03:26:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. But to put a pin in my story, yeah, 4307 03:26:42,800 --> 03:26:46,119 Speaker 2: like it could have not just cost him his job, 4308 03:26:46,560 --> 03:26:49,840 Speaker 2: but if they lost like this certification, like in my case, 4309 03:26:50,200 --> 03:26:52,560 Speaker 2: they would have lost like a lot of their customers. 4310 03:26:52,600 --> 03:26:54,840 Speaker 3: It literally could have killed the company. Yeah, like all 4311 03:26:54,879 --> 03:26:55,959 Speaker 3: of the people working. 4312 03:26:55,760 --> 03:26:59,200 Speaker 2: For that company could have could have been could have 4313 03:26:59,240 --> 03:27:03,240 Speaker 2: been you know, lost their job technically, dude. 4314 03:27:03,280 --> 03:27:08,120 Speaker 4: And depending on how you know, how secure this company 4315 03:27:08,400 --> 03:27:09,240 Speaker 4: could have gotten. 4316 03:27:09,120 --> 03:27:12,560 Speaker 3: Legal trouble too, legal trouble like legal trouble. 4317 03:27:12,720 --> 03:27:17,440 Speaker 2: Bad, It's bad. One more one so from Pixie Pan. 4318 03:27:17,800 --> 03:27:20,960 Speaker 2: My daughter was born in ninety five. She's an older millennial, 4319 03:27:21,120 --> 03:27:23,600 Speaker 2: per her twelve year old brother who keeps calling her 4320 03:27:24,080 --> 03:27:27,240 Speaker 2: elderly older millennial. Now, older millennials are. 4321 03:27:27,160 --> 03:27:27,720 Speaker 3: Like thirty eight. 4322 03:27:28,240 --> 03:27:32,400 Speaker 4: That's a young millennial, a young millennial ninety five exactly, 4323 03:27:32,440 --> 03:27:34,160 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's a young millennial. 4324 03:27:34,280 --> 03:27:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're they're twelve year old brothers gaslighting them 4325 03:27:37,440 --> 03:27:38,920 Speaker 2: and thinking they're. 4326 03:27:39,640 --> 03:27:44,520 Speaker 5: Like like some other people I know, John, I would never. 4327 03:27:45,080 --> 03:27:49,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, Coke, Hey, do you gotta have this story? 4328 03:27:49,879 --> 03:27:50,120 Speaker 1: We do? 4329 03:27:51,720 --> 03:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Let's do it. 4330 03:27:53,320 --> 03:27:56,000 Speaker 3: Okay, that is okay, the calls can wait. The people 4331 03:27:56,040 --> 03:27:56,920 Speaker 3: are here for content. 4332 03:27:57,280 --> 03:27:59,440 Speaker 4: Do we want to read any comments? Uh? 4333 03:27:59,560 --> 03:28:00,480 Speaker 5: Yes, read them? 4334 03:28:00,760 --> 03:28:03,720 Speaker 4: Well you find the new Okay, move the mic closer 4335 03:28:03,760 --> 03:28:06,800 Speaker 4: to your mouth. It is, in fact right next to 4336 03:28:06,920 --> 03:28:14,760 Speaker 4: my now. Uh nineties rule I've never been Yep, nda 4337 03:28:14,920 --> 03:28:18,520 Speaker 4: are real and it can be bad. So true. I 4338 03:28:18,600 --> 03:28:20,720 Speaker 4: have a password for my oh who's this from kid? 4339 03:28:22,920 --> 03:28:25,440 Speaker 4: Raise aicon? I have? Yeah, I have a password for 4340 03:28:25,560 --> 03:28:27,440 Speaker 4: my phone and then another pass code to get into 4341 03:28:27,480 --> 03:28:30,720 Speaker 4: my business WhatsApp because I'm a psychologist, and I need 4342 03:28:30,800 --> 03:28:33,640 Speaker 4: as many locks on my phone as possible. My ex 4343 03:28:33,720 --> 03:28:36,600 Speaker 4: partner understood that. Yeah, yeah, I feel like, yeah, it 4344 03:28:36,720 --> 03:28:40,320 Speaker 4: makes sense if you have like very sensitive sensitive information 4345 03:28:40,440 --> 03:28:41,240 Speaker 4: that's like, hey, I want. 4346 03:28:41,120 --> 03:28:44,280 Speaker 2: To protect you know, my clients sharing very confidential things 4347 03:28:44,400 --> 03:28:47,520 Speaker 2: like it's good. It's good ladies and gentlemen respect. But 4348 03:28:47,680 --> 03:28:48,720 Speaker 2: what else is good? 4349 03:28:49,240 --> 03:28:51,040 Speaker 4: Is this next story? 4350 03:28:51,480 --> 03:28:56,480 Speaker 2: That's right, let's get into it, short and sweet title. Today, 4351 03:28:57,000 --> 03:29:02,840 Speaker 2: I afked up by sexting my step mom. Ah ah, 4352 03:29:03,800 --> 03:29:04,240 Speaker 2: did you know? 4353 03:29:04,560 --> 03:29:06,280 Speaker 4: Did you know that they were your stuck? 4354 03:29:10,640 --> 03:29:14,160 Speaker 2: Change the learn, Oh did you know that you were there? 4355 03:29:14,240 --> 03:29:16,720 Speaker 2: Your step I'm going to assume it's an accident because 4356 03:29:16,720 --> 03:29:19,720 Speaker 2: today I afked up. Otherwise it would be like today 4357 03:29:19,760 --> 03:29:20,520 Speaker 2: I succeeded. 4358 03:29:22,120 --> 03:29:23,600 Speaker 4: You didn't get to my step mom. 4359 03:29:24,360 --> 03:29:28,879 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, gracious. Well, let's get into this one from 4360 03:29:29,000 --> 03:29:33,480 Speaker 2: crazy squirrel Girl, who says my sister was getting married 4361 03:29:33,520 --> 03:29:35,760 Speaker 2: and all of us ladies went to get mayonies and 4362 03:29:36,040 --> 03:29:40,520 Speaker 2: petties together. Oh yeah, my step mom, all the bridesmaids, 4363 03:29:40,640 --> 03:29:43,879 Speaker 2: my sister, and I. So because there was a flock 4364 03:29:43,920 --> 03:29:46,000 Speaker 2: of eight of us, they sat a few of us 4365 03:29:46,120 --> 03:29:48,160 Speaker 2: in the petticure chairs to soak the feet. While we 4366 03:29:48,240 --> 03:29:51,840 Speaker 2: waited for a manicurist to become available, I decided I 4367 03:29:52,000 --> 03:29:54,360 Speaker 2: had had a long wait and I was bored. I 4368 03:29:54,720 --> 03:29:57,160 Speaker 2: really don't know the bridesmaids, only my sister and my 4369 03:29:57,240 --> 03:30:00,400 Speaker 2: step mom, so I would sext my husban has been. 4370 03:30:02,280 --> 03:30:07,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I see where this is going. I put I 4371 03:30:07,760 --> 03:30:10,840 Speaker 4: see you in the comments because I see I see. 4372 03:30:10,760 --> 03:30:12,959 Speaker 3: You drop them, drop them. 4373 03:30:14,160 --> 03:30:18,760 Speaker 2: Well, I started sending very descriptive messages to him at. 4374 03:30:18,680 --> 03:30:23,240 Speaker 4: The Manny Petty. During the Manny Petty, at the nail. 4375 03:30:23,120 --> 03:30:24,280 Speaker 2: Salon, she was going in. 4376 03:30:24,879 --> 03:30:29,920 Speaker 4: She's getting her feet painted, her nails painted. 4377 03:30:30,000 --> 03:30:31,720 Speaker 2: Painting something red. 4378 03:30:31,879 --> 03:30:34,400 Speaker 5: I will say. Whenever John went to get his nails done, 4379 03:30:34,440 --> 03:30:37,960 Speaker 5: he did say he was thirsty, so for water. 4380 03:30:38,160 --> 03:30:39,720 Speaker 2: Riley sure. 4381 03:30:40,720 --> 03:30:42,920 Speaker 4: I was also while we were talking about the Manny petties, 4382 03:30:43,000 --> 03:30:44,800 Speaker 4: I was thinking of I'm. 4383 03:30:44,720 --> 03:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, never apologize, it's destroyed, Scott. 4384 03:30:49,520 --> 03:30:52,160 Speaker 4: I was thinking about an alternate video where you guys 4385 03:30:52,280 --> 03:30:55,000 Speaker 4: get four inch nails on your toes and you walk 4386 03:30:55,040 --> 03:30:57,360 Speaker 4: around like little What are. 4387 03:30:57,400 --> 03:30:58,840 Speaker 3: Feet challenges that we could do? 4388 03:31:00,120 --> 03:31:02,360 Speaker 4: You're like tipping and tapping right? 4389 03:31:02,520 --> 03:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 4390 03:31:02,760 --> 03:31:03,400 Speaker 3: Tap dancing? 4391 03:31:03,840 --> 03:31:06,520 Speaker 4: Oh no, I just meant like tipping and tapping in general. 4392 03:31:06,680 --> 03:31:08,840 Speaker 3: Oh, because of our giant blompers. 4393 03:31:08,920 --> 03:31:10,320 Speaker 5: If you do something with your feet, you have to 4394 03:31:10,600 --> 03:31:14,480 Speaker 5: like then do a foot finder like promotion. 4395 03:31:14,800 --> 03:31:17,640 Speaker 3: That's true. I really, I really don't know if you 4396 03:31:17,720 --> 03:31:18,320 Speaker 3: guys want that. 4397 03:31:18,879 --> 03:31:20,680 Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, this was just my like. I don't 4398 03:31:20,680 --> 03:31:21,560 Speaker 4: want you to actually do it. 4399 03:31:22,560 --> 03:31:25,560 Speaker 5: Sure, Okay, now she's back pedaling. 4400 03:31:27,600 --> 03:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Well you know what Erica Taylor Allen says, I see 4401 03:31:30,959 --> 03:31:36,600 Speaker 2: today is Bully John Day vindication. Vindication. 4402 03:31:38,040 --> 03:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Hey, shout out to you, Erica. 4403 03:31:40,120 --> 03:31:45,000 Speaker 4: I would never I feel Jenna Marbles would get four 4404 03:31:45,040 --> 03:31:46,240 Speaker 4: inch nails on hurt. 4405 03:31:47,080 --> 03:31:48,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's true. 4406 03:31:48,520 --> 03:31:51,200 Speaker 4: I want that video. Where is Jenna? I miss her? 4407 03:31:51,560 --> 03:31:56,400 Speaker 3: We got to get her on the show. See you 4408 03:31:56,560 --> 03:32:00,880 Speaker 3: do you want Jenner Marbles on the show. Jenna Marble? 4409 03:32:00,959 --> 03:32:01,640 Speaker 4: I love you, Jenna. 4410 03:32:01,840 --> 03:32:02,720 Speaker 3: Yes, let's get it wrong. 4411 03:32:02,760 --> 03:32:04,879 Speaker 4: I watched. I've watched all your videos. 4412 03:32:04,959 --> 03:32:05,520 Speaker 3: Let's get it wrong. 4413 03:32:05,560 --> 03:32:08,840 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, we're gonna let's go commoner. 4414 03:32:09,040 --> 03:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Get out of here. 4415 03:32:10,400 --> 03:32:14,039 Speaker 4: She did, I'm getting four inch nails on her toes. 4416 03:32:15,080 --> 03:32:15,920 Speaker 4: Maybe I haven't watched. 4417 03:32:16,879 --> 03:32:17,840 Speaker 3: We got to run the catalog. 4418 03:32:18,000 --> 03:32:20,000 Speaker 4: Sorry, okay, okay, continue, Yes. 4419 03:32:20,080 --> 03:32:23,320 Speaker 2: So where you know we sent the hot and hot 4420 03:32:23,360 --> 03:32:26,520 Speaker 2: and heavy messages. He wasn't responding, but the messages were 4421 03:32:26,560 --> 03:32:29,640 Speaker 2: marked as red, so I knew or so I thought 4422 03:32:30,040 --> 03:32:32,360 Speaker 2: that he was with my dad, and I figured that 4423 03:32:32,480 --> 03:32:35,440 Speaker 2: I would be evil and make it up to him later. 4424 03:32:36,520 --> 03:32:39,800 Speaker 2: After the fifth message, my stepmom, who is two petty 4425 03:32:39,879 --> 03:32:42,760 Speaker 2: chairs over from me, leans over and clears your throat. 4426 03:32:44,920 --> 03:32:45,959 Speaker 2: That was a terrible thirt clear. 4427 03:32:47,360 --> 03:32:50,120 Speaker 4: Oh pe I do I did not know you were 4428 03:32:50,240 --> 03:32:51,040 Speaker 4: that flexible? 4429 03:32:51,200 --> 03:32:53,160 Speaker 3: You have quite worths. 4430 03:32:55,879 --> 03:33:03,520 Speaker 6: Oh, oh my gosh, quite away with words, quite away, 4431 03:33:03,560 --> 03:33:07,560 Speaker 6: with words meaning there's just you know, she's she's breaking 4432 03:33:07,640 --> 03:33:08,000 Speaker 6: it down. 4433 03:33:09,200 --> 03:33:09,840 Speaker 3: Horrified. 4434 03:33:10,240 --> 03:33:12,199 Speaker 4: I would. I would leave the relationship. 4435 03:33:12,920 --> 03:33:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, leave the room, leave the relationship, leave the planet. 4436 03:33:16,600 --> 03:33:20,680 Speaker 4: Oh wait, they're not in a relationship, isn't step Mom? Sorry? 4437 03:33:20,720 --> 03:33:26,520 Speaker 3: I was thinking, are we sparking the flames of munos? 4438 03:33:26,879 --> 03:33:26,920 Speaker 2: You? 4439 03:33:27,080 --> 03:33:27,120 Speaker 1: No? 4440 03:33:27,200 --> 03:33:32,360 Speaker 4: I would. I would leave the country. Yeah, go off 4441 03:33:32,400 --> 03:33:35,160 Speaker 4: the grid, Yes, off the grid and start a farm. 4442 03:33:35,320 --> 03:33:35,720 Speaker 3: There we go. 4443 03:33:35,920 --> 03:33:36,360 Speaker 2: I like that. 4444 03:33:36,920 --> 03:33:39,280 Speaker 3: I feel like that's Riley's answer as well. Start a farm. 4445 03:33:39,360 --> 03:33:40,360 Speaker 3: That's like Riley's default. 4446 03:33:40,560 --> 03:33:43,959 Speaker 5: I feel like in the Appalachian Mountains there. 4447 03:33:43,840 --> 03:33:48,199 Speaker 2: He is horrified. I looked at my phone and see 4448 03:33:48,240 --> 03:33:51,080 Speaker 2: her name and not my husband's. We all ended up 4449 03:33:51,160 --> 03:33:54,480 Speaker 2: laughing until tears were streaming down our faces. 4450 03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 4451 03:33:55,240 --> 03:33:55,800 Speaker 3: So yeah. 4452 03:33:55,959 --> 03:33:58,880 Speaker 2: Now my stepmom thinks I'm an info and when I 4453 03:33:59,040 --> 03:34:02,720 Speaker 2: do text her will always respond immediately. You do know 4454 03:34:02,920 --> 03:34:06,280 Speaker 2: you're texting me, right, Thank goodness we do not live 4455 03:34:06,640 --> 03:34:08,240 Speaker 2: in the same states. 4456 03:34:09,480 --> 03:34:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeahs uh yeah, ows uh, that's tough. 4457 03:34:13,600 --> 03:34:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 4458 03:34:14,320 --> 03:34:15,920 Speaker 4: I always check who you're texting to. 4459 03:34:16,280 --> 03:34:17,600 Speaker 2: Always always check. 4460 03:34:17,560 --> 03:34:20,560 Speaker 4: Especially when you're texting those those texts. 4461 03:34:20,280 --> 03:34:25,480 Speaker 3: Those those you're naughty texts. Do not send those, that is, 4462 03:34:26,400 --> 03:34:27,360 Speaker 3: to your step mom. 4463 03:34:27,480 --> 03:34:29,440 Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, send them to whoever you'd like. 4464 03:34:29,879 --> 03:34:32,279 Speaker 3: Maybe not your step mom, yeah, or maybe not whoever 4465 03:34:32,440 --> 03:34:32,840 Speaker 3: you'd like. 4466 03:34:33,040 --> 03:34:37,400 Speaker 2: But send them to anyone you want to send them. 4467 03:34:41,080 --> 03:34:44,880 Speaker 4: Send them to people who consent and want them, but 4468 03:34:45,040 --> 03:34:48,440 Speaker 4: not your sem that's right, even even if she cons 4469 03:34:49,000 --> 03:34:51,280 Speaker 4: even if she asked for it, don't send them. You 4470 03:34:51,360 --> 03:34:51,560 Speaker 4: know what. 4471 03:34:51,959 --> 03:34:54,480 Speaker 2: Take a step back and say, yeah, I'm good. 4472 03:34:54,720 --> 03:34:58,119 Speaker 4: I'm glad that those stepmom was good with it, though 4473 03:34:58,480 --> 03:34:59,160 Speaker 4: she laughed about it. 4474 03:34:59,320 --> 03:35:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and everyone. 4475 03:35:00,280 --> 03:35:02,120 Speaker 2: It seems like everyone had a good, good sense humor. 4476 03:35:02,240 --> 03:35:03,480 Speaker 4: Everyone laughed about it. 4477 03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:08,039 Speaker 2: What are the good people saying? Lemester Limester says, oh 4478 03:35:08,120 --> 03:35:10,720 Speaker 2: my lord, I felt my face hot from that one. 4479 03:35:11,000 --> 03:35:13,360 Speaker 3: That is so funny. Though at least she didn't call 4480 03:35:13,440 --> 03:35:15,440 Speaker 3: her a floozy or something. That's true. 4481 03:35:16,040 --> 03:35:18,240 Speaker 2: It could have gone like very left, something we see. 4482 03:35:18,080 --> 03:35:18,480 Speaker 3: All the time. 4483 03:35:18,680 --> 03:35:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, she couldn't be worried about it. 4484 03:35:20,160 --> 03:35:21,360 Speaker 1: But she was chill. She was chill. 4485 03:35:21,400 --> 03:35:23,400 Speaker 4: She chill step mom. She's like, I'm a cool mom, 4486 03:35:23,600 --> 03:35:24,400 Speaker 4: don worry about it. 4487 03:35:24,680 --> 03:35:28,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. Who else do we got? 4488 03:35:28,760 --> 03:35:28,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 4489 03:35:28,920 --> 03:35:29,520 Speaker 2: Where's the one? 4490 03:35:30,400 --> 03:35:33,039 Speaker 3: Here we go? Uh, you want to take that one? 4491 03:35:33,720 --> 03:35:37,480 Speaker 4: Kim Kwant says. I sent hey I'm in the closet 4492 03:35:37,640 --> 03:35:39,640 Speaker 4: to my work chat one time when I was trying 4493 03:35:39,680 --> 03:35:46,720 Speaker 4: to tell my friend who had just come over, so oh, oh, 4494 03:35:46,800 --> 03:35:49,320 Speaker 4: I'm in the closet, like when you get here. But 4495 03:35:49,560 --> 03:35:58,160 Speaker 4: she said, hey, guys, I'm in the closet. I'm imagining 4496 03:35:58,240 --> 03:35:59,280 Speaker 4: I'm in the closet. 4497 03:35:59,320 --> 03:36:02,040 Speaker 3: I'll be out in the yeah, right, Oh my gosh, 4498 03:36:02,240 --> 03:36:03,200 Speaker 3: that is hilarious. 4499 03:36:04,680 --> 03:36:05,640 Speaker 2: Jem oh my god. 4500 03:36:05,760 --> 03:36:08,080 Speaker 3: I want to know the flexible thing that she could do. 4501 03:36:09,360 --> 03:36:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was confused by that because if it's 4502 03:36:12,680 --> 03:36:14,880 Speaker 4: just text, but if it's I was thinking maybe there 4503 03:36:14,879 --> 03:36:16,920 Speaker 4: were pictures, and that's what I think. 4504 03:36:16,959 --> 03:36:20,439 Speaker 2: It was all all uh, all descriptive. 4505 03:36:20,640 --> 03:36:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh oh, she was telling Yes, she was describing what 4506 03:36:24,200 --> 03:36:25,440 Speaker 4: she was going to do, and she was like, wow, 4507 03:36:25,560 --> 03:36:26,520 Speaker 4: you'll flex flexible. 4508 03:36:27,040 --> 03:36:28,960 Speaker 2: The raven said, it was a little bit down. The 4509 03:36:29,040 --> 03:36:32,440 Speaker 2: Raven said, I'm a cool mom. Won any snacks? Condoms? 4510 03:36:32,720 --> 03:36:33,600 Speaker 3: You crazy kids? 4511 03:36:34,240 --> 03:36:35,920 Speaker 2: Well, Raymond is a cool mom. 4512 03:36:36,080 --> 03:36:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's true. 4513 03:36:37,520 --> 03:36:38,560 Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. 4514 03:36:38,640 --> 03:36:39,800 Speaker 4: The cringe, I'm cringing. 4515 03:36:40,600 --> 03:36:44,800 Speaker 2: Crystal Light says, God, love it me do so are we? 4516 03:36:45,000 --> 03:36:46,760 Speaker 3: Do we have any more stories? Wow? 4517 03:36:47,680 --> 03:36:49,400 Speaker 4: Wow, we've read all the stories. 4518 03:36:49,360 --> 03:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. 4519 03:36:50,600 --> 03:36:52,160 Speaker 5: We could go, we could keep going. 4520 03:36:52,280 --> 03:36:57,040 Speaker 2: It's all good. We've done. Guys, well, never stop, Riley, Riley, 4521 03:36:57,080 --> 03:36:59,120 Speaker 2: get get on the get on the stream. Let me 4522 03:36:59,120 --> 03:37:01,039 Speaker 2: see your people face there there he is right there. 4523 03:37:01,280 --> 03:37:01,920 Speaker 1: You go an hour. 4524 03:37:02,440 --> 03:37:03,480 Speaker 3: Actually go small again. 4525 03:37:03,320 --> 03:37:03,760 Speaker 2: So we can see. 4526 03:37:03,800 --> 03:37:03,840 Speaker 6: So. 4527 03:37:03,959 --> 03:37:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us 4528 03:37:07,480 --> 03:37:09,680 Speaker 2: on our first like I would say, our first. 4529 03:37:09,480 --> 03:37:12,240 Speaker 4: Like official true, yeah, because I'm here. 4530 03:37:12,320 --> 03:37:16,879 Speaker 2: Yes, because you are one hundred percent right. How could 4531 03:37:16,920 --> 03:37:19,440 Speaker 2: we ever think? And you know what to close it out? 4532 03:37:19,560 --> 03:37:23,360 Speaker 2: We have the entire crew, the entire okay, fa. 4533 03:37:23,440 --> 03:37:26,760 Speaker 4: Here, Oh sorry, Estella Davis says, wait, we haven't gotten 4534 03:37:26,800 --> 03:37:29,560 Speaker 4: to Bully Sam yet. Don't worry. I beat you to it. 4535 03:37:29,800 --> 03:37:32,000 Speaker 2: There it is there, it is. It was Bully John 4536 03:37:32,080 --> 03:37:34,880 Speaker 2: Day and Sam will have his day, ladies and gentlemen. 4537 03:37:36,200 --> 03:37:39,480 Speaker 2: But a few quick reminders. We are going to be 4538 03:37:39,560 --> 03:37:43,400 Speaker 2: doing some exclusive live streams on Twitch. 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