Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one Engine with Jenny Garth and
Speaker 1: Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: I'm nervous about today because, oh because it's that we
Speaker 2: have some serious criticism of this episode and people are
Speaker 2: not going to be happy about it.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: This is Season eight, episode seventeen, The Elephant's Father I
Speaker 1: Almost Said Daughter, aired January twenty first, nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Synopsis. A hot new band like David Song, A hot
Speaker 3: new doctor comes along. Noah's loyalty makes Donna nervous. Valas
Speaker 3: punished with community service. Brandon is begging for Kel to
Speaker 3: come back, while Steve says goodbye to Carly and Zach.
Speaker 1: That's fun. I liked it.
Speaker 2: I have a quick question. Yes, yeah, this guy is
Speaker 2: not listed on the guest starring but was the boyfriend
Speaker 2: of the you know, the abusive boyfriend? Was that Ceebee
Speaker 2: Barnes from the Brady Bunch movie? Can anyone confirm that?
Speaker 2: But so the boyfriend that, I think that's his name,
Speaker 2: and he was on a show, he was on some
Speaker 2: sitcoms kind of in the nineties, and then I think
Speaker 2: he was Greg Brady in the Brady Bunch movies. Just
Speaker 2: a little trivia anyone wants to know. I couldn't fact
Speaker 2: check it because it was like he was so minor
Speaker 2: that I ran into a pickle. But I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: felt strongly about it. Also, Lindsay Price does nothing so far,
Speaker 2: like they really don't give her anything to do.
Speaker 3: Yet, who told you she's just there to work in
Speaker 3: the office? Right now?
Speaker 2: I know it's like I didn't.
Speaker 3: You didn't believe it?
Speaker 2: You saw it?
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I just assumed she was cast to replace Hillary Swank
Speaker 2: and it apparently not.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Can is this when we get our Hillary Swang story?
Speaker 1: This? You guys? This was Hillary's last episode.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 1: I was watching it and I don't know what your
Speaker 1: criticisms Amy are, but I really liked this episode, and
Speaker 1: I there's something going on with me. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to deny that, but I cried four times watching.
Speaker 2: I'm happy about it, like not happy, but I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're feeling something. My criticism is just two parts. Do
Speaker 2: you want me to save it or start with it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Because I kind of liked this episode too.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, you start with your criticisms, and then it's
Speaker 1: the other end two where you can tell us that
Speaker 1: Hillary swank story at the end of the episode.
Speaker 2: Here are my criticisms. I'm sorry, Valerie, You're not gonna
Speaker 2: get community service at Kelly's do Oh yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, that's not what community service called.
Speaker 3: Butterfly effect, like something happens and it triggers that and
Speaker 3: it was meant to be. Oh look, Amy, you're right.
Speaker 3: The guy from the Brady Bunch movie. Yeah, really happy that,
Speaker 3: Christopher Daniel Barnes. I remember him, of.
Speaker 1: All the clinics and all the lands exactly, Jenny, and
Speaker 1: of all in the Los Angeles basin.
Speaker 2: And they don't assign you community service in a doctor's office.
Speaker 2: That's not right. I mean I could be wrong, but
Speaker 2: I thought community service is like serving meals at the
Speaker 2: homeless shelter.
Speaker 1: We're cleaning up by the freeway, correct.
Speaker 2: Picking up trash, Like it's not like you get an
Speaker 2: office job. That was just sort of a ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And also, you're not you remember when we did community
Speaker 3: service in pH nine O two and.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got to wear the orange jumpsuits.
Speaker 2: Were you on the cleaning up trash in a park?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 3: That was fun.
Speaker 1: I mean it was fun. We didn't really have to
Speaker 1: do community though it was fun.
Speaker 2: Oh and I correct myself. He was listed as a
Speaker 2: guest star Christopher Daniel Barnes as Lenny. For some reason,
Speaker 2: I thought his name was Cebe Barnes. So bad on me.
Speaker 2: I'm dumb.
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that Michael Rhodes directed this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and L Treadman Trideman L Triedman was wrote the teleplay.
Speaker 1: And now we have story credit for.
Speaker 2: El me we teleplay versus story. Confusing to me?
Speaker 1: Teleplay tell a play?
Speaker 3: What I feel like?
Speaker 1: We're in the nineteen fifties, me too, seems weird?
Speaker 3: One ring ding, I mean, I guess it means she
Speaker 3: wrote came to them like I I'm guessing she wrote
Speaker 3: the story about the physical abuse the girl. It was
Speaker 3: her story, and she pitched it to them. They were like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is great. And then with John Welpley, they put
Speaker 3: together all the other characters pieces Ellen.
Speaker 1: What happened with the teleplay?
Speaker 2: A teleplay is a script specifically written for a television show, movie,
Speaker 2: or series. But that's all I can see on the screen.
Speaker 3: Right, So she wrote it and then he probably characterized
Speaker 3: it because she didn't know the characters because she was.
Speaker 2: New I would interpret it as she did the story
Speaker 2: with John Welpley created the story, but then she wrote
Speaker 2: the script.
Speaker 1: I have a question tour. Yeah, do we know who
Speaker 1: John Wellplea is.
Speaker 3: I think he's our staff writers.
Speaker 1: Oh John, Sorry, I really liked this episode, but.
Speaker 3: We weren't close with him though. I don't know. He
Speaker 3: wrote a lot of them, but always like more over
Speaker 3: the Hill, you know, like you guys want.
Speaker 1: To hear something crazy. Of course, this weekend I was
Speaker 1: I watched a movie and it was called Boys Don't Cry.
Speaker 2: Did you watch it? Because? Okay, so much information needed.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, which one was the movie about the Boxer?
Speaker 1: Because that's the one I watched?
Speaker 2: Oh not Boys Don't Cry. No, that's Boys Don't Cry.
Speaker 2: Was the one she won the Oscar for the Boxer
Speaker 2: one she was nominated.
Speaker 3: I don't know if she was that one dollar baby
Speaker 3: an Eastwood movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, she was really good and Boys Don't Cry.
Speaker 2: Guys, she's really good. I really good in everything.
Speaker 1: She was really good in this episode.
Speaker 2: My TikTok has A keeps showing me a movie she
Speaker 2: was in. I think she has als in the movie.
Speaker 2: And Emma Emmy Emmy Ross Rossom and Josh Dammella in it,
Speaker 2: and it's like always on my TikTok and she's like,
Speaker 2: she's amazing.
Speaker 3: She is really really good. Except there was one alien
Speaker 3: movie I saw she was in and I was like,
Speaker 3: I didn't love but.
Speaker 2: Oh oh they go to Mars or something.
Speaker 3: Is it called Mother?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: No, I thought you were talking about the one where
Speaker 2: she's sort of fighting aliens with the guy from Aaron Brockovich.
Speaker 2: I might be blurring not one.
Speaker 1: Wait, you guys said she didn't win an Oscar for
Speaker 1: when she won an Oscar for both.
Speaker 2: She's won two Oscars.
Speaker 1: According to Lorraine our.
Speaker 2: Producer Best Actress twice.
Speaker 1: WHOA, she's doubling down on that.
Speaker 2: I just know one of them. She forgot to thank
Speaker 2: Chad Low and that was like infamous.
Speaker 3: That was the first one.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm sure she was nervous. I would be nervous.
Speaker 2: Can I just say my one other criticism and then
Speaker 2: will be positive because I like this episode too. I'm sorry, Brandon,
Speaker 2: you're mad, but Kelly didn't thank you for the flowers
Speaker 2: that you scent because you cheated on her, and you're mad.
Speaker 2: She's not calling you right, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saye might be fully over Brandon like like that.
Speaker 3: I love how they're trying to make him hostile now,
Speaker 3: so I'm angry he can't even I think Brandon Jason
Speaker 3: great actor, but he like almost can't even play mad
Speaker 3: like him, like going to that window with the mother
Speaker 3: driving and like that's, oh that was insane. That's the
Speaker 3: most mad he can get.
Speaker 2: Like that was also insane, Like they're they're they're ruining Brandon.
Speaker 3: Ru ruining Brandon ruining.
Speaker 2: It's like, what are you doing? He's not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Brandon would be like.
Speaker 3: I'm a national treasure.
Speaker 2: He never would have done it in the first place.
Speaker 2: Maybe he would have, but he wouldn't be so ridiculous about.
Speaker 1: It and then so self righteous.
Speaker 2: So like the scene with the three boys drinking the
Speaker 2: beer at like literally the Santa Monica Pier, which was
Speaker 2: so random, I'm like, what are they doing?
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't believe that Noah's friends with
Speaker 1: them at all.
Speaker 3: Because you like him or you don't like him, He's fine.
Speaker 2: I just he's not.
Speaker 1: He didn't hasn't earned his way into the.
Speaker 2: I know, he's literally their best friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's driving around with Brandon. I don't understand things.
Speaker 3: This is how we roll.
Speaker 2: They're totally trying to make Noah, Dylan.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start. Okay, let's just which one do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Which?
Speaker 2: Which episode?
Speaker 1: People? I mean, which storyline?
Speaker 2: What do you want?
Speaker 1: Let's just get Brandon Kelly since we've already started dipping
Speaker 1: a toe in there. So yeah, he's it opens on
Speaker 1: him sad, but there is like that like edge of
Speaker 1: He's irritated that Kelly isn't calling him back.
Speaker 2: And irritated that you're not like giving him another shot
Speaker 2: right away?
Speaker 3: Why does he think he deserves another shot? He flum
Speaker 3: blew it as he says with his eyes wide open,
Speaker 3: Like what do you mean? Like he like.
Speaker 2: Blew it like it's awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's no there's no really coming back from that.
Speaker 1: And Donna, oh, you're so sweet. We don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to jump to your storyline yet away for that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she comes back. Kelly goes back to Donna
Speaker 1: get and asks for her old room back, which I loved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, though, it's like Hillary Swayne just
Speaker 2: like moved in.
Speaker 3: There and speaking how like they have no one Every
Speaker 3: scene They now have Hillary Carly in every scene like
Speaker 3: it's a three of them trying to talk about what
Speaker 3: happened to Kelly, and Kelly's like, oh, you can stay,
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, no, you should go. She just
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like one of us. No offense start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the characters, this is.
Speaker 3: Like a Kelly.
Speaker 2: They don't build friendships on this show. They just throw
Speaker 2: them in and act like we're all supposed to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're all best friends.
Speaker 1: Do you hit the nail on the head? Amy?
Speaker 3: That is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then when it doesn't work, they just fire them yeah.
Speaker 1: Or send them to Montana to never be heard from
Speaker 1: the act.
Speaker 2: It's like, why would it work. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work well because we were told to
Speaker 1: make it work, so we really gave it our best shot.
Speaker 2: Valeriees just awful, awful.
Speaker 1: It's almost comedic now, Like I feel like she's almost
Speaker 1: playing it comedic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's agree Did you feel that, like, yes, hey,
Speaker 2: mister flower delivery man.
Speaker 3: Did you realize she's funny? Like with their lines? But
Speaker 3: is that a the guys or like what is she doing?
Speaker 2: You know, she probably knows it's absurd. It's absurd what
Speaker 2: they're doing to her. So she's like, I might as
Speaker 2: well just make this a little campy.
Speaker 3: You think it was a choice.
Speaker 1: It seemed like she's having a really good time at work,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of crossing over into the punching of
Speaker 1: the jokey lines, which is great. I think it's fun,
Speaker 1: and they're giving her nothing else to do, so well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just so terrible, like taking the card off
Speaker 2: the flowers and rewriting it and telling Brandon and who
Speaker 2: why would anyone believe anything she says?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 3: Ever?
Speaker 1: Poor thing, poor thing. Yes, the writing of this character.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, poor.
Speaker 3: Thing to that it's so bad. But again, I six seven.
Speaker 3: She's been here four years, four seasons. She could have
Speaker 3: said something.
Speaker 2: Well, she should have, because it's bad. Back on everything
Speaker 2: you've been saying, Please continue, Valerie.
Speaker 1: Valerie. She also reports that there's I mean, wait, here
Speaker 1: was where it was at before I got distracted by
Speaker 1: your dryer? So the the guy that was sexually harassing
Speaker 1: Kelly got fired and now your dad slipped in, And
Speaker 1: is how we ever seen him in the office before?
Speaker 1: Is this the first time?
Speaker 2: They just hired him? That's what he's in.
Speaker 1: Full steam ahead skip of Bee also brings in a
Speaker 1: new guy.
Speaker 3: I love him, a new guy. And then it all
Speaker 3: hit me, what Kelly's getting a new doctor again?
Speaker 2: Correct, It's like, but it was so inappropriate of the
Speaker 2: other doctor, which I agree, he was in a position
Speaker 2: of power and married. But this guy is also in
Speaker 2: a position of power. But yet it's not wrong.
Speaker 1: This tip what is going on in this workplace? No
Speaker 1: one's safe except foul. Nobody wants to date her, but.
Speaker 3: It's always okay, Like what what about when Kelly had
Speaker 3: was amnesian? No, what was the time? No, she was burned.
Speaker 3: And then there was the doctor and they dated, but
Speaker 3: that was okay, even though it was unprofessional there correct, remember.
Speaker 2: Patient doctor, And it's like what that was that was
Speaker 2: worse than this? At least this guy's sort of like
Speaker 2: the resident.
Speaker 3: Or underlying thing, like energetically, why do you like medical men?
Speaker 1: I don't they just tell me?
Speaker 3: I do they just come to you? All these medical men, they're.
Speaker 1: The only other men A in town and B in
Speaker 1: the scene. So that's all I got, just.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, I don't know. It's just the
Speaker 2: same storyline. But now it's not weird.
Speaker 1: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: And this guy's here for a while. I remember him.
Speaker 3: I wasn't this one.
Speaker 1: You weren't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I just feel like you guys
Speaker 3: didn't have chemistry. I don't know. We'll wait and see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his characters like kind of just like clinging around.
Speaker 2: I also, this is awful, but like the short hair
Speaker 2: is rough, the pixie do. It's a little drastic, harsh.
Speaker 1: Harsh because I've had it for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no you you went away and then it
Speaker 2: came back.
Speaker 3: Remember that it went away and then got shorter.
Speaker 2: Oh, and it's I like short hair, but there's something
Speaker 2: about it's too perfect. Kelly having the short hair is
Speaker 2: tough because in your heart she has long hair.
Speaker 3: She can't think.
Speaker 2: In my mind, it's just like, wait, Kelly has long hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that, totally get that. I feel
Speaker 1: like it looks like one of those Polly pocket wings
Speaker 1: you put on, like.
Speaker 3: Snap on, snap it on.
Speaker 2: That's I just more was thinking about Felicity, remember, like
Speaker 2: her hair, and then she could.
Speaker 3: Never get past that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry I didn't like the hair, but that happens.
Speaker 1: I didn't really like it either. To be honest, it's
Speaker 1: like too Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised they also let you, not that they
Speaker 2: control that, but like it's very I guess.
Speaker 1: They could wear a wig, like if nobody liked it.
Speaker 2: I think people at the time liked it. I had
Speaker 2: short I copied.
Speaker 1: You you had a picture.
Speaker 2: Than I had such short hair. What I literally had
Speaker 2: short hair like Kelly.
Speaker 3: That short I cannot picture.
Speaker 2: I know it's really was terrible, and that maybe is
Speaker 2: why I'm triggered.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm I feeling need to send you
Speaker 1: flowers or something.
Speaker 2: My eyebrows are ruined because of you guys. Ever, thanks,
Speaker 2: And I even noticed Lindsay's like everybody with a thin thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that day.
Speaker 2: I had short hair right around the same time.
Speaker 3: I need to see that picture. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I think thin.
Speaker 1: Brows need to come back in. My daughter Lola has
Speaker 1: thin brows right now, and I'm obsessed with them.
Speaker 2: I'd love for them to come back in so that
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seen not by chore.
Speaker 1: What does Kelly know that the woman who had a
Speaker 1: car accident a fender bender is being abused by her husband.
Speaker 2: I think they see the signs and that one. I'm
Speaker 2: sort of going with because on the pit they figure
Speaker 2: that stuff out too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they take a little more time on the pit,
Speaker 1: Like she just walks in the door and Kelly's like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh wow.
Speaker 3: This was nineteen ninety seven, and.
Speaker 1: She's like the I don't know, she's really good. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see this position, this career for her coming,
Speaker 1: This healthcare for Kelly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's what you inevitably end up doing
Speaker 3: with your life.
Speaker 1: More psychology, which I makes sense. We're right, and she's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, help being a therapist to
Speaker 1: this girl.
Speaker 2: She's great at her job, Kelly at her job. She's
Speaker 2: running that office like a tight ship. I don't mind that.
Speaker 2: Although it's like you're twenty two.
Speaker 3: In all the tragedies that have happened to her were
Speaker 3: all meant to be so help others.
Speaker 1: Learned a lot. What about that split lip? How do
Speaker 1: you guys feel about that makeup?
Speaker 2: The girls?
Speaker 3: I was watching on my phone so I couldn't tell her.
Speaker 2: I just thought, there's no way this. This boyfriend's gonna
Speaker 2: come into the doctor's office, and while in the doctor's
Speaker 2: office yell at her basically, why did you come here
Speaker 2: with an earshot of every It's like and she where
Speaker 2: did we end up with her? She's just gone and
Speaker 2: it's all good now.
Speaker 1: I love that her Lenny. Her name was Leah and
Speaker 1: his name was Lenny. Oh, you're thinking in real life.
Speaker 3: Because she looks familiar and she going to be honest,
Speaker 3: I feel.
Speaker 1: Like she was familiar, but he was social a Ron Miller.
Speaker 2: He went on to many a job.
Speaker 1: I did not expect Lenny to look like that when
Speaker 1: he came in the door of like what okay.
Speaker 2: He was on Day by Day or some show like that.
Speaker 2: I just went Greg Brady just walked in? What's happening? Immediately?
Speaker 2: I was like, Greg Brady just walked in because he
Speaker 2: was the one played opposite Christine Taylor. He was Greg
Speaker 2: and she was Marsha. I'm pretty sure he might have
Speaker 2: been Peter.
Speaker 1: You know what, I never watched it, Greg, I refused.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Jenny as a Brady Bunch, It's yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like it. It's yucky because you're like, it's
Speaker 2: too dumb and campy and goofy. I mean, I love
Speaker 2: the idea kind of, but then it's like it kind
Speaker 2: of ruins the love I have for the Brady Bunch.
Speaker 1: It was like when they did that movie where other
Speaker 1: people played are characters or no, what was that movie? Oh?
Speaker 2: That Lifetime thing?
Speaker 3: The real I thought you were being funny and you
Speaker 3: were gonna say, it's like they when they did that
Speaker 3: other show called nine O, two and zero where they
Speaker 3: had other people play versions.
Speaker 1: No, they were different characters.
Speaker 2: I didn't hate that show. I'm not gonna lie. The
Speaker 2: CW one was actually kind of good.
Speaker 3: It's kind of good.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of good.
Speaker 3: It is good. It just was different. That's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: at different shows.
Speaker 1: How many episodes was I on?
Speaker 2: Like three?
Speaker 1: Right? No?
Speaker 2: Like thirty?
Speaker 3: So Jen was on twenty two episodes to be exact,
Speaker 3: but she thinks she was on three, which is why
Speaker 3: I love her so much.
Speaker 2: My death, Bet, I remember, I feel like your bank
Speaker 2: account would know that you were on twenty two versus
Speaker 2: I don't really look at that, But I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about that.
Speaker 3: You were the glue that held the show together. You
Speaker 3: were not just a guest star.
Speaker 2: I always no, do you ever get residuals from that?
Speaker 1: Amy? When I say I don't think about money, I'm
Speaker 1: not lying, Like if I think about money, it.
Speaker 2: Stops your panic or something.
Speaker 1: Oh no, if I if I think about it, I
Speaker 1: strangle the flow of it. So oh, I have to
Speaker 1: actively say I'm not thinking about that.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: But also, oh, I'm going to start saying that, like
Speaker 3: just the stress is not good.
Speaker 2: And you get nothing from Beverly Hills nine o two
Speaker 2: and oo, like, do you ever get thirty two cents
Speaker 2: or anything like that?
Speaker 3: I think once in a while, Oh, that's cool, but
Speaker 3: rarely it'd be like ten cents at this point maybe less.
Speaker 1: Oh myank goodness me.
Speaker 3: It's just like leader up.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like rude. I'd be like ten cents really.
Speaker 3: Or one cent if you're kind of one cent one
Speaker 3: But you're not. You're supposed to wait, what is it.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to cash them, right, and not just keep them.
Speaker 3: You have to have like a pile of them.
Speaker 1: No, you've got like thirty two sense in a pile
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 2: I think they like the checks like eventually don't work.
Speaker 1: You got to deposit, right, Remember when you had to
Speaker 1: go to the bank to deposit a check?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Do? I mean I still do that because I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do it on the phone.
Speaker 2: You put it through the ATM, or you go to
Speaker 2: the teller.
Speaker 1: I go to the teller. But like now the kids
Speaker 1: they just take a picture of it and somehow magically
Speaker 1: the money goes in their account.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that.
Speaker 1: You do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like pretty technology, like pretty good at some
Speaker 2: of the stuff like that. Good. All my bills are
Speaker 2: paid online. How about you guys writing checks? Just writing?
Speaker 2: Dear Pgy, you're so calga to the order of.
Speaker 3: Putting. I'm like folding it.
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I don't know if this episode,
Speaker 2: you guys think you forgot to pay attention to the episode.
Speaker 2: So allry, let's bring it back Valerie dude brutal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we've got Billy David like just Trophy.
Speaker 3: Oh that one.
Speaker 2: He's in with the band. The guy's such a.
Speaker 3: Jerk, Like, wait, isn't that your friend mine? Yes? Friend,
Speaker 3: I think Johnny Whitworth.
Speaker 2: Okay, did it not feel trophy to you guys?
Speaker 3: Like we've know it's someone who's doing this stupid friends
Speaker 3: with them? Yeah, and his wife? Are you thinking of Damon?
Speaker 2: No Jasper's Law?
Speaker 3: Who are the actors that played on them? Am I
Speaker 3: getting his name right? Johnny Whitworth, Paul Papa Witch.
Speaker 1: No, I don't remember. I'm sorry, that's.
Speaker 2: Okay while you think about that terrible storyline.
Speaker 3: Who are the other actors?
Speaker 1: And also just like silly that the main jasper? I
Speaker 1: guess is he so rude? Eddie Ibel?
Speaker 2: Well and right? Do you want some drugs? What?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, here we go with David again.
Speaker 3: Is this gonna happen?
Speaker 1: It was going to happen, but it didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm glad it didn't, but it's still tropy. It's just
Speaker 2: like we've seen this. Please give David something to do.
Speaker 2: And then how about how in love David and Valerie are?
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait a minute about David? Thank you? What?
Speaker 1: Can't skip over that? So he's like, sure, I'll sing
Speaker 1: a little bit of it for you five six seven
Speaker 1: eight and like a full like pre recorded song of
Speaker 1: his own voice, but like it's like studio recorded.
Speaker 3: I and you know how I feel about David slash
Speaker 3: Brian I cringed. I was like, no, I wanted to
Speaker 3: be over now.
Speaker 1: I cringed in all the good ways. So it's like, really, yes,
Speaker 1: this is so good he's singing and it's the worst
Speaker 1: song ever even just like the keyboards of it, like annoying,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, poor guy, was that one of
Speaker 1: his songs or was that one of david songs?
Speaker 3: He he said it was one of my old songs.
Speaker 1: About an old girlfriend being you.
Speaker 3: I mean he must have written it, right, yeah, and
Speaker 3: then why is he show shady?
Speaker 1: When he tells val She's like, what's the song about?
Speaker 1: Is it fast?
Speaker 2: It's right right right right? Ah?
Speaker 1: Cute that she wants to know because his girlfriends, yeah,
Speaker 1: they want to say she wants to support him, But
Speaker 1: why is he so dodgy about it? Because it was
Speaker 1: about Donna?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think we're supposed to think, or
Speaker 2: no vow.
Speaker 1: Care, Like what it's an old song I wrote about
Speaker 1: my mom?
Speaker 2: Who cares? Tropy trophy trophy, tropey trophy.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel as if I know you guys are
Speaker 1: going to tell me that Kelly and Brandon get back together,
Speaker 1: but I just don't see how that could happen.
Speaker 2: Not yet.
Speaker 3: No, she's gonna date this doctor. Uh no, too soon.
Speaker 2: I don't want to like spoiler alert, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't remember any of the like wedding episode, the
Speaker 2: almost wedding.
Speaker 1: I kind of do because I was wearing a big
Speaker 1: white dress. So that's kind of like a marker in
Speaker 1: my memory.
Speaker 3: Banks good.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens. Okay, but do you know
Speaker 1: how many wedding dresses I've worn?
Speaker 3: Like real life? Yeah, camera.
Speaker 2: For me. The next chunk of episodes are a bit
Speaker 2: around the river and through the woods, like they just
Speaker 2: are sort of like twisty turvy, like they don't make
Speaker 2: any sense. They're kind of boring, like there's all these
Speaker 2: things and you're like, what's happening? It doesn't. It's like
Speaker 2: that's my take on the next I don't know, say
Speaker 2: ten episodes. Okay, I don't know what episode we're on.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's eight.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll buckle up then, because I kind of enjoyed
Speaker 1: this ride. I loved it when Donna stoock.
Speaker 2: Up, stock up, we got it, stuck it up, took
Speaker 2: up or stood stood up.
Speaker 1: Sure for Donna a word she stuck up, making that
Speaker 1: a thing, guys go with it. He stood up for
Speaker 1: Kelly and saying like that really I could sell that
Speaker 1: like triggered you Donna because or even you Tori. But
Speaker 1: like about guys the cheat and then them just being
Speaker 1: like forgiven or like our job to now be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well I'll put that behind me because I really want
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship with someone because that's so desperate.
Speaker 2: That was quite a good scene actually with the phone call.
Speaker 2: That was a top scene in this episode, along with
Speaker 2: some of the end with Carly. But that was a
Speaker 2: good scene. Which scene when Donna's on the phone and
Speaker 2: Brandon really wants to talk to Kelly and Donna's sort
Speaker 2: of Kelly's there, it's sort of this three way scene
Speaker 2: and he's a.
Speaker 1: Friend or something, and Donna was like, yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was a really that was a well written scene
Speaker 2: in my opinion. It was a good acted scene by
Speaker 2: all three of you. That was a very That was
Speaker 2: probably one of my top scenes in this episode.
Speaker 3: That was a good scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just like that, And then I liked
Speaker 1: it also that that like caused a rift between you
Speaker 1: and your boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Uh, that was not a great scene at the dinner
Speaker 2: dinner with Noah, Donna, Now that was just absurd. You're
Speaker 2: having like the greatest time and then somehow this comes
Speaker 2: up and then it's just like dramatic napkin throw down.
Speaker 2: Why I'm like, why what are you doing Noah?
Speaker 3: And he threw it down like in front of me
Speaker 3: because that's where the camera was.
Speaker 1: Like can you imagine that character of Noah when he's
Speaker 1: like an older wealthy man. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2: I just feel like Noah would have been like, Brandon,
Speaker 2: you're an idiot. Why'd you screw this up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then he would have said none of my business.
Speaker 2: Like correct, It's like they don't. That's the problem with
Speaker 2: the writing. And again, people are gonna write mean comments
Speaker 2: to me, but it's all all over the place, like
Speaker 2: Noah's a good dude. You've written him as a good dude.
Speaker 2: Make him stay that course. This is the guy that
Speaker 2: got the boat and didn't tell anyone about his money,
Speaker 2: and he does the right thing and he's a good boyfriend.
Speaker 2: And Donna, Noah would have said what Brandon did is
Speaker 2: so dumb. Now, if Kelly wants to forgive him, she can,
Speaker 2: but I think what he did was terrible.
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of what he did.
Speaker 3: That's kind of He doesn't end up saying yeah, like
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, but he says at the dinner, I know these
Speaker 2: things open it's not a big deal, a good girl,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Think he was saying it in a way that we
Speaker 1: weren't like following what he really meant. Like he was
Speaker 1: saying it, it came out as like weird. Hi, it's
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Speaker 1: now at veeps dot com. I remember now why it
Speaker 1: was hard for me to act with Noah's character. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I hope people don't get mad at me for
Speaker 1: saying this. It's just my observation and my opinion, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure I did things that were stupid. But he
Speaker 1: was in the scene with you, and it dawned on
Speaker 1: me because he would say a couple words, and then
Speaker 1: he'd look to the right. Oh, then say a couple words,
Speaker 1: and then he'd looked to the right, and then he
Speaker 1: say a couple of words and he looked to the right.
Speaker 1: There's something about that, like cadence of acting where they
Speaker 1: can't make contact eye contact for the like for the
Speaker 1: scene they have to look away in order to eat.
Speaker 1: What is that remembering my line let me oh? Or
Speaker 1: is that like I don't know what to do next,
Speaker 1: so I'm just going to look away. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that was.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, And now I'm going to notice that all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: He specifically does it. And maybe it's just because the
Speaker 1: writing feels hard for him, or.
Speaker 3: I feel like I know what you're talking about, and
Speaker 3: I feel like he did do it often, and it
Speaker 3: was like almost like a choice.
Speaker 1: Like David did it too. David's character did it too.
Speaker 3: Like it I'm turning to make an emotional choice.
Speaker 1: It's always that though it's it was always I think
Speaker 1: I did. I felt that sometimes with David's character too,
Speaker 1: like not like it was. I remember, like in the
Speaker 1: scene thinking, wait, what what's over there? Like what are
Speaker 1: you talking to me? Or is it are you over there?
Speaker 3: Because in real life that's really telling, at least for me.
Speaker 3: I like when people talk to me and meet my
Speaker 3: gaze the entire time, I'm often thinking if they're looking away,
Speaker 3: something's off about what they're saying, they're thinking about what
Speaker 3: to say, they're lying.
Speaker 1: Or they're feeling insecure.
Speaker 3: Right, So I know. I actually, as an actress, like
Speaker 3: I always tried to meet everyone's gaze because that's what
Speaker 3: I do in real life and you're the satan. But
Speaker 3: often male actors specifically, we would see them do that,
Speaker 3: like hmm, that's odd.
Speaker 1: But it's just like when I was watching that scene
Speaker 1: with the when you guys make up, it really made
Speaker 1: me remember.
Speaker 2: That it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Actual I'm gonna keep looking for it now it is
Speaker 3: distracting as the partner in the scene, the other actor. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know what you mean though, and not just with
Speaker 3: fince like it would happen with other people and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you want to be like what in real life you'd
Speaker 3: be like, what are you looking at? You're not talking
Speaker 3: to me?
Speaker 1: Have you been on the because I can fully relate
Speaker 1: even just in like regular conversations now, yeah that Sometimes
Speaker 1: people will just dodge your eyes contact completely and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening here.
Speaker 3: But and have you ever said, in a heated moment,
Speaker 3: went like what are you looking at? Are you looking
Speaker 3: behind me? What's going on? I have? And they're like
Speaker 3: what do you mean I aren't? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But also, is constant eye contact weird?
Speaker 2: Right? You don't want to be like, oh, like I.
Speaker 1: Want to talk to you, tory about something very important
Speaker 1: to me, and you have to listen to every word
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If I'm not, I'm not freaking Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess not constant, but like cool, it's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can look down or something, but when
Speaker 3: people just look like just away and it's almost like
Speaker 3: behind you, You're like someone behind me? Who's here? You know?
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: I'm now I'm gonna be now, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: watch off and the whole show. But that's fine. I
Speaker 2: want to be like paying more attention.
Speaker 3: No With Noah, it's like he's not looking at anyone else.
Speaker 3: He's just like, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's almost like taking a moment to be
Speaker 2: brooty or think Brudy, like Rudy.
Speaker 3: It's part of his makeup of his acting.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't mind him. I like him. Frankly, I
Speaker 2: like him more than brand to anyone.
Speaker 3: Else on the show, anyone else. Hey, now, what male?
Speaker 3: You mean?
Speaker 1: I think male?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm totally talking about the guy.
Speaker 1: But when I cried, okay, yeah, when'd you cry? Even
Speaker 1: though we all have said and have felt that Steve
Speaker 1: and Carly Carly have no chemistry, I never felt that.
Speaker 1: I felt it in this episode, and I felt so sad.
Speaker 1: I cried when he came into the apartment and he
Speaker 1: was sad, and he was wearing that really tight brown
Speaker 1: shirt and he looked really muscular. And then I cried
Speaker 1: in that scene, and then I cried at the airport.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: It's such a good job acting.
Speaker 2: I find it so she's just so emotional. I find
Speaker 2: it so weird that you get fired and then you're
Speaker 2: told but you have to do a full episode to
Speaker 2: leave the show. That's very emotional about how sad you
Speaker 2: are to leave when you would be like you just
Speaker 2: fired me.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, so we have you told the what really
Speaker 1: happens story? Is it time? I'm dying to know.
Speaker 3: So from now, everyone out there, please, this is from
Speaker 3: my perspective and my memory sake, So I'm not going
Speaker 3: to get it for batim what she said, but from
Speaker 3: this is how I saw it go down. We were
Speaker 3: all in our dressing rooms. Hillary and I had become
Speaker 3: quite close. I had gone out with her and Chad
Speaker 3: and we had hung out.
Speaker 2: She was married to Chad at this time. God correct, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I was kind of safe place on set and
Speaker 3: she would talk to me about everything. And she said,
Speaker 3: Paul Wagner said, who was our main producer on set.
Speaker 3: Paul Wagner wants to talk to me in his office.
Speaker 3: Do you know what it's about? And I didn't. I
Speaker 3: didn't know anything, and so I was like, I'll be
Speaker 3: in my dressing room, you know, I'll wait, And she
Speaker 3: was like, I'm so nervous. So she goes in and
Speaker 3: she comes back and she's crying, and she comes into
Speaker 3: my dressing room. We shut the door and she said,
Speaker 3: I just got let go. I'm being fired from the show.
Speaker 3: And I was like what, because I hadn't heard any
Speaker 3: of this. We didn't know, and she was hysterically crying,
Speaker 3: and I just remember and I'm sorry, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to get this wording exact, but she was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, if I get fired off of nine oh
Speaker 3: two and zero, I'm never gonna make it. And the
Speaker 3: ironic thing is, if she stayed on nine on two, No,
Speaker 3: she would not have been able to audition for Boys
Speaker 3: Don't Cry. She would not have been able to get
Speaker 3: that role, do that role, and then win an Academy Award.
Speaker 1: Things always work out.
Speaker 3: But she really felt like, and it was I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think it wasn't in a negative, but we were
Speaker 3: in our eighth season. It wasn't like we were in
Speaker 3: our prime anymore. And it's like, gosh, if I can't
Speaker 3: keep a gig on a series on TV that's popular,
Speaker 3: I'm never making it anywhere. Like my career's over.
Speaker 2: Wow, that must have been a terrible feeling for her
Speaker 2: to get called into that office, and you know she
Speaker 2: knew like, oh, I have a lump in my throat something.
Speaker 2: Why am I getting called in here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man? And then they say to you, but you gotta
Speaker 2: do one more episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know when she was told that's a thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many episodes she stayed once they
Speaker 3: told her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they didn't tell her until it was time,
Speaker 1: like they finished of filming.
Speaker 3: So after that and after she left the show, just
Speaker 3: because you know, we were always going at like Meek
Speaker 3: speed and you hung out with whoever you were working with.
Speaker 3: I didn't see her for years, and then she had
Speaker 3: won the Academy Award. It was years later. It was
Speaker 3: I believe after nine oh two and oh just a
Speaker 3: year or two after, so it would be like two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, two thousand and two, something like that.
Speaker 3: And I was in New York for fashion Week at
Speaker 3: Mark Jacob's show, and I was walking and the photographer goes, oh,
Speaker 3: Tori a picture, and then he goes, oh my gosh, Hillary,
Speaker 3: and she was walking and I hadn't seen her since,
Speaker 3: and he goes, it's a nine o two and zero reunion.
Speaker 3: I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 3: but it still lingers over me that she goes, oh,
Speaker 3: she goes no, I'm sorry, and she kept walking.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't blame her because it wasn't about you,
Speaker 2: but she's like, why would I do that photo when
Speaker 2: these people fired me and now I'm a big oscar When.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Toris.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was just you, Tori No, but
Speaker 2: the guy saying a nine O two one Oho reunion. Immediately,
Speaker 2: you would be like, every headline is going to be that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just trying to give her the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: I too would be like, yeah, maybe she's too you
Speaker 1: going somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did say I I gotta go, and but
Speaker 3: I did take it personally, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a bummer. I guess because we're just like a
Speaker 3: TV series and she's a big like movie star, she
Speaker 3: doesn't want to take a picture with me.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't look at it like that, But what
Speaker 2: do I know?
Speaker 3: Again, Like I said, I took them and I've never
Speaker 3: seen her since. So that's why I give.
Speaker 4: Her the benefit of the doubt, obviously, But Toy bothered
Speaker 4: me all these years because I felt like when she
Speaker 4: was going through a lot. I was there for her,
Speaker 4: and I felt so ashamed that like, oh, it like
Speaker 4: made me feel like.
Speaker 1: Tory, you need to out to her or not just
Speaker 1: be like whatever, it's not important to you now in
Speaker 1: your life, Like I know who cares.
Speaker 3: If Jen was there, she'd be like, what do you care?
Speaker 3: Take your photos? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I get it, but I also get like, you're friends
Speaker 2: with her, why not reach out to her. I bet
Speaker 2: she'd be so happy.
Speaker 3: To say hi, or to say at the Mark Jacob Show,
Speaker 3: why would you not take a picture with her?
Speaker 2: Say hi?
Speaker 3: Twenty years ago?
Speaker 2: I'm dying.
Speaker 1: I'm dying to know if she would remember.
Speaker 2: But reach out to her so that you show the
Speaker 2: friendship and she's going to show it back.
Speaker 3: I bet I'll slip into her DMS. Let's see what happens, right.
Speaker 2: Why not? I would be so happy to hear from
Speaker 2: someone from twenty years.
Speaker 1: Ago that would that DM say, I'm just how do
Speaker 1: you do that?
Speaker 2: Hillary? I wanted to reach out.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you, oh, no offense, I'm asking to
Speaker 1: I want to know how Tory would slip into her.
Speaker 3: Do you know me? I'll just be like, Hi, it's
Speaker 3: been a long time. Hope you're well. I don't know
Speaker 3: how are you?
Speaker 2: Can I get my version? Okay? Say Hillary? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about you a lot as we're rewatching
Speaker 2: your episodes of nine oh two one oh on my podcast,
Speaker 2: and it just made me think, like how much I
Speaker 2: loved our friendship, and you know, I wanted to reconnect.
Speaker 2: I hope you're well, Like you have those beautiful babies.
Speaker 2: You seem so happy. Your career has been incredible. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to tell you that I could do that.
Speaker 2: Being nice is such a great thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting she not be nice. Oh I know,
Speaker 1: I know, like if it really matters to her, which
Speaker 1: I don't really think it matters to your tour. But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just am saying, right, why not?
Speaker 2: Like you were friends with her? Why not? People love
Speaker 2: that stuff? I think TVD not TBD. Do it?
Speaker 1: Do you think about it?
Speaker 3: And do you think I'm going to any No?
Speaker 2: And that's what cress me, Daddy, because it's like you
Speaker 2: will bump into her. Fate makes that happen. But like
Speaker 2: if I were Hillary Swank, I would love to hear
Speaker 2: from you, like I I think that that's so nice
Speaker 2: to say, Hey, I'm rewatching it. You were great. I
Speaker 2: loved working with you on this show. I want nothing
Speaker 2: from you but to tell you how how much fun
Speaker 2: it was, and I'm sorry we didn't get to work
Speaker 2: together more. And how amazing you've become Bravo. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I know, but that's what I do.
Speaker 3: I love your passion though. All right, we at the end.
Speaker 2: Well, we have to talk about how sad it was
Speaker 2: that she left, and they make such a big to
Speaker 2: do over it, which I was like, I think, if
Speaker 2: you fire someone I.
Speaker 1: Like, I like the coat we gave her, yeah and that.
Speaker 2: But my things like, if you fire some a character,
Speaker 2: why not just why do the whole episode?
Speaker 1: I feel like it could be still open ended, Like
Speaker 1: who's to say Steve doesn't go correct, he missus theres
Speaker 1: so much and goes to see her, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, why even do it this way?
Speaker 2: If you're firing her because the character isn't popular and
Speaker 2: it's not going well, why not just start the episode
Speaker 2: and she's gone.
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't have a big like to go
Speaker 3: party for Claire. It was just that scene with Steve, right.
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, this is like more than
Speaker 2: we did for any of these characters that were on that.
Speaker 3: Maybe they felt so bad that they wanted to like
Speaker 3: give her a big good bye scene.
Speaker 2: That's the part that was weird. I mean it was
Speaker 2: huge goodbye scene. It was a huge goodbye party a thing.
Speaker 2: The airport scene like.
Speaker 3: A little they went overboard.
Speaker 2: Which I liked, made me want her to not leave.
Speaker 2: I was like, don't leave.
Speaker 3: Stay mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So I just was befuddled because I'm like, if you're
Speaker 2: firing or why are you doing this whole thing?
Speaker 1: I really liked her in that episode.
Speaker 2: She's freaking awesome. I like the character.
Speaker 1: Frankly, you didn't though, correct.
Speaker 2: No, because I felt like they made her so annoying
Speaker 2: in the first couple episodes. Because what you're forgetting is
Speaker 2: remember in the first couple of episodes, she was snarky.
Speaker 2: She was like rude to Steve, blowing him like the
Speaker 2: whole thing. She was very snarky and like no, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna go out with you, and you're terrible, Like
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You know? Because remember he met
Speaker 2: her through your sister at the soccer field. Yeah, took
Speaker 2: Aaron to the soccer field.
Speaker 1: Oh oh that sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah sorry, And so I was like the half sister,
Speaker 2: no Aaron, And so they made her unlikable in the
Speaker 2: first like three episodes, and that was what I had forgotten.
Speaker 2: But what But I just remember her being like, eh,
Speaker 2: I don't care about her, and I am convinced the
Speaker 2: reason I didn't care about her is because they did
Speaker 2: her dirty in the beginning. Then they make her kind
Speaker 2: of great, but it was like too late, and they
Speaker 2: they still had the people's you know, voices in their
Speaker 2: ear being like this character's annoying from way before when
Speaker 2: she was annoying. Now she's not annoying and you're getting
Speaker 2: rid of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah sorry, Wow, makes no sense exact.
Speaker 2: It's like you fixed it, unlike what you did to
Speaker 2: Jamie Walters, where you made him terrible. We wanted him
Speaker 2: to go. You made her great, and now you're getting
Speaker 2: rid of her. Why.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: I'm tired by this.
Speaker 3: You exhausted.
Speaker 1: Lucky for her, she left.
Speaker 2: Correct like that. She's probably like devastated and then she's like, whoa,
Speaker 2: I want an Oscar?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can relate, not the oscar part,
Speaker 1: but like, have you ever been fired like that? I
Speaker 1: called in known office or and told or been put
Speaker 1: on a phone call with somebody who fires you?
Speaker 2: Just makes me think of something that I don't even
Speaker 2: want to say. But like, say you were on a
Speaker 2: show that fired you. Wouldn't you want that shot? Like Tank?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're.
Speaker 2: Telling me you were on a show. Say you're on
Speaker 2: a show I don't know and they fire you, would
Speaker 2: you not want that show to like do worse without you?
Speaker 2: That's just like human nature? Is that terrible? I try
Speaker 2: to be Michelle Obama about it, but I'd still be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in the back of your mind maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe not Tank, Or you're like I hope they
Speaker 3: missed me, or hope, yeah, I hope.
Speaker 1: They get canceled.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to be like rise.
Speaker 1: Above, Yes, it is, it's hard. But have have you
Speaker 1: ever been fired from a job tour?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Amy, No, I've had some lumps. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 2: but I've never been like called into an office and
Speaker 2: be like you don't work here anymore. I've had things
Speaker 2: that I want that I didn't get or whatever.
Speaker 1: Jen, I've been fired from what? Oh uh? It was
Speaker 1: a pilot pilot episode and then they recast me, oh
Speaker 1: to who I don't know who the girl was. I
Speaker 1: And did the show even get picked up? Nope?
Speaker 2: And aren't you happy about that?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't really care.
Speaker 3: But tell them the reason, because it's yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter the reason. I'm just saying I got fired
Speaker 1: and I had those feelings.
Speaker 2: Of but you didn't have any part of you that
Speaker 2: was like the show didn't go.
Speaker 1: At that time. No, I was not harboring Oh.
Speaker 2: Wow, see you're a better person than me. I'd be like, ha,
Speaker 2: the show didn't get picked up, you should have kept me.
Speaker 2: I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think I even really liked the show. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so I didn't really care.
Speaker 2: So you're like, thank you.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, but I didn't go on to win
Speaker 1: an oscar, but I did go on to get a
Speaker 1: different show, which was exactly what better.
Speaker 2: But now I want to know what the show was.
Speaker 2: Can you tell my god?
Speaker 1: I don't know the name of it. It was about
Speaker 1: a bike shop, I think, and it didn't even happen.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those what was that show
Speaker 1: about the pizza and the two guys in the pizza.
Speaker 2: Oh, two guys a girl in a pizza place.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like that, but this.
Speaker 2: Was two guys a girl in a bike shop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was the girl, Ryan Reynolds the guy.
Speaker 1: No, don't remember, but it didn't feel good. So I
Speaker 1: have a lot of empathy how she must have felt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, this is like so I feel awful
Speaker 2: for her, and then they make her they obviously fired her,
Speaker 2: and then they make her do this whole episode.
Speaker 1: I'm really dying to know, like, did that conversation with
Speaker 1: Paul come after the last scene or was it.
Speaker 2: Like no, because she knows.
Speaker 1: The episode No, but I'm saying they left it open ended,
Speaker 1: like it didn't feel like they'll never see each other again.
Speaker 1: It felt like, well, she's just going to Montana to but.
Speaker 2: She says in the episode, but if I can't keep
Speaker 2: moving Zach, if I find a school, we're gonna stay.
Speaker 1: He was so oh cute in this episode.
Speaker 2: I know that GE's sdorable.
Speaker 3: I feel like they told her like one episode or
Speaker 3: two episodes before this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 2: That's what's the worst. That's the craziest part of how
Speaker 2: your jobs are? You get fired, but you have to
Speaker 2: come back to work. It's like, oh, you're fired, but
Speaker 2: you'll be working for another month. Oh okay, whoa. It's
Speaker 2: like those poor people at Access Hollywood. Right now, the
Speaker 2: show's done, but they have to work all the way
Speaker 2: till September brutal.
Speaker 1: My friend Mishka, Yeah yeah, but they're all excited. They're
Speaker 1: all already onto their next thing.
Speaker 2: Well that's good.
Speaker 3: Clap on. Wait what's the next episode?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it doesn't matter what the title is,
Speaker 1: it will mean nothing. It's called Rebound, Season eight, episode eighteen.
Speaker 2: Steve's rebounding, maybe Brandon's rebounding. You're rebounding everyone?
Speaker 1: Oh, everybody's rebounding.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh wow. See that one means something, I guess. So
Speaker 3: don't tell me there's any basketball in it or I'll
Speaker 3: freak out.
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny, that's funny. That's actually funny.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding it.
Speaker 1: You love the sports show, you know I don't.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Whatever happened to that cutie that played basketball?
Speaker 2: That Tory should have dated?
Speaker 3: But whatever? Oh was it? DeShawn?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was a mess up.
Speaker 1: Well you never know, honestly, at this point, what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen next week, so I'm gotting to find out I
Speaker 1: might be watching it. How about you?
Speaker 2: Wait, what are we giving it?
Speaker 1: I'm I give it an eight and a half seven,
Speaker 1: sorry seven.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a seven point five.
Speaker 1: Good scores that'll keep you around for another week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.