Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone. So this is what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: right it Joey like, so for the events, like right,
Speaker 1: like this is kind of like for me, this is
Speaker 1: like my last hoorah as far as hip hop over
Speaker 1: the next six eighteen or twenty four months. Right, Not
Speaker 1: like I'm finna retire or nothing, but like as I
Speaker 1: started making films and shit like that, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna have as much time dedicated to
Speaker 1: purely music because it aately.
Speaker 2: Like my skill set and my gift rather is a story.
Speaker 1: Like I'm a storyteller, so like I'm figuring out other
Speaker 1: ways to tell stories. Hip hop was something like God
Speaker 1: bless me with you. I mean to save my life.
Speaker 1: Like it's funny because I told you, Like the old
Speaker 1: school truck on Bill New that got impounded and I
Speaker 1: went to go get a release from the Century Station.
Speaker 2: The jail I used to go to all the time.
Speaker 1: It's right at the corner of my neighborhood, like right
Speaker 1: at the corner of the seven, Like it's a jail
Speaker 1: right on Imperial in Alameda, and it's a court building there,
Speaker 1: and I went up there to get the release from
Speaker 1: them to go pick up my old school truck, and
Speaker 1: I remember walking in that courtyard and the last time
Speaker 1: I was in that courtyard specifically, I had just beat
Speaker 1: a case like probably like my eight for ninth sharm
Speaker 1: dealing case PCP selling case. And it was a bad case,
Speaker 1: like it should have been an easy win case because
Speaker 1: it wasn't my sharm, you know. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: selling sharm at the time, but the specific bottle that
Speaker 1: they got it wasn't mine's, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking it's gonna be easy because if they
Speaker 1: fingerprinted the bottle, you know what I mean, like you
Speaker 1: could prove it, not minds, but because of my extensive
Speaker 1: history when it came to selling PCP, I ran into
Speaker 1: a judge that was kind of fucking me over.
Speaker 2: And then the.
Speaker 1: Two specific police officers McDaniels and Oh Diggae, they was
Speaker 1: trying to fuck me over, you know, the detectives that
Speaker 1: he was just tired of me, Like I was really
Speaker 1: an arrogant ass d boy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I carried myself with like a real flare.
Speaker 1: And like I knew they knew what I was doing,
Speaker 1: and I knew their job was to try to catch me,
Speaker 1: and my job was to make sure they didn't catch it.
Speaker 1: That's the shit you know on me. But this case
Speaker 1: got out of hand, and you know I used to
Speaker 1: bail out of it. Used to be thirteen five forty
Speaker 1: One's that was the penal code for session of PCP
Speaker 1: for sales, I mean for sale, thirteen five forty one.
Speaker 1: And like that's how many times I had it. I
Speaker 1: know the fucking pinal coal by heart. And anyway, this
Speaker 1: is about the eighth or ninth time, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: this is a simple case. So I remember not bailing
Speaker 1: out on the case. And that ball is on twenty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you know what I mean. So you spend
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars, you know, to ten percent. But at
Speaker 1: that time you had to have a house, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I would pay like somebody who
Speaker 1: owned the house some money, like a thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: use their house. So I'm thinking to myself, like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend three thousand. It'll be a
Speaker 1: da reject because this wasn't my shurn. They called me
Speaker 1: coming out the yard calling my older homie Booby rest
Speaker 1: in Peace neighborhood, and they just kind of jam me
Speaker 1: up and just wanted to put me in jail to
Speaker 1: ruin my weekend.
Speaker 2: And they take me to jail, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: They go find some sherman in an abandoned house two
Speaker 1: or three houses down from where I was at and
Speaker 1: said this is Joe Sharm.
Speaker 2: So I go to jail.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm not finna pay a little three thousand,
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred take to get out.
Speaker 2: I'll wait and get a DA reject because this ain't
Speaker 2: my sharn.
Speaker 1: It was a judge that ran into me before and
Speaker 1: cuz was crazy, and the police trumped it up and
Speaker 1: my bill end up going to two hundred thousand. So
Speaker 1: the bill out ended up costing me thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: that time. I had about ninety thousand dollars saved. It's
Speaker 1: a third of the money for me. So like long
Speaker 1: fast forward, like all kinds of bashes storre happening, Like
Speaker 1: I just took a lot of losses and that's how
Speaker 1: I work in the streets. So I'm fighting this case.
Speaker 1: There was a time bro that I wasn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: have any fear of going to jail or prison. Like
Speaker 1: my big hommy Pluck caught a case on some bullshit.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go take the time so he didn't
Speaker 1: get life. I was gonna go take it because I
Speaker 1: would only have to do three years. That's how much
Speaker 1: I wasn't scared of going to prison or jail.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Pete, Was.
Speaker 3: This the same moment or not moment?
Speaker 4: But what was it this time where you were And
Speaker 4: it sounds like a little bit longer where the story
Speaker 4: where you hit that one gentleman's dad through the bars?
Speaker 1: No, that was about that was three jail stents before that. Jeezus,
Speaker 1: all right, it was a time when I was going
Speaker 1: to jail all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure. So, long story short.
Speaker 1: Like I ended up taking a bunch of losses. It
Speaker 1: was a bad case. The case was really simple, but
Speaker 1: my history just the judge was just being unreasonable, bro,
Speaker 1: And it was so much shit that was happening. Now
Speaker 1: that I think about it, probably was some shit. He
Speaker 1: wasn't he supposed to do. Long story short, They were
Speaker 1: trying to give me three hundred and sixty six days
Speaker 1: because if they give me three hundred and sixty five days.
Speaker 2: You could do that in the county.
Speaker 1: But if you had to do one, if you got
Speaker 1: sentenced to one day over a year, you had to
Speaker 1: go to prison, and you had to get a tell
Speaker 1: parole parole number. And by this time, I think Motoac
Speaker 1: got killed one of the homies. One of my own
Speaker 1: homies killed one of the homies, and then he get killed.
Speaker 1: Then homies go to prison, so like like a lot
Speaker 1: of shit is just happening. And I remember thinking, like
Speaker 1: just a year before that, the thought of going to
Speaker 1: prison meant nothing to me. But then this time I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm finna go to prison over this.
Speaker 1: And really, at that time, you would have did four months,
Speaker 1: you would have went to They called it a turnaround.
Speaker 2: You go to Chino like the reception, get booked in
Speaker 2: and they send you home. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You do about three four months and you own but
Speaker 1: you now you're on parole. And I'm in that courtroom
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, damn, my life, and to be
Speaker 1: on parole for some bullshit like I wasn't even making
Speaker 1: no money right here on this specific thing. And I
Speaker 1: remember praying to God, like right, I had a public
Speaker 1: defender because I think I had like twenty some thousand
Speaker 1: dollars left over from all that money I had, And
Speaker 1: I had a public defender because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: spend that money on the attorney. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep something, which now that I think about, is
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. But I remember like being prepared to walk
Speaker 1: in there and take the deal three hundred sixty six
Speaker 1: days right, because they wouldn't give me a county lid
Speaker 1: three sixty three sixty five in the county. And I
Speaker 1: remember saying this empty prayer. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: y'all ever you know, said an empty prayer? Like an
Speaker 1: empty prayer is like you don't really mean what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of you spirit doing the thing that
Speaker 1: innately comes to it. So I'm sitting in the courtroom now,
Speaker 1: mind you Modica, and McDaniel's behind me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's a fucked up situation. My public defender
Speaker 1: is cool, but he not great. And you know, we
Speaker 1: walk in. He take me in a little private sector
Speaker 1: in the back of the court room at this location
Speaker 1: where I'm going to get the release at from my
Speaker 1: truck the Century station right on the period and that
Speaker 1: of media and why. And he's like, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to push back a little bit, but you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna to take this three hundred sixty six days because
Speaker 1: they gonna drag it out. And I don't think you
Speaker 1: want to fight this with a public defender. This is
Speaker 1: what my public defenders telling me. What pete, if.
Speaker 4: You in that scenario, like let's say they just shoot
Speaker 4: you to Chino and and it's not you got a
Speaker 4: decent little arrangement. They're like, you're not gonna have some
Speaker 4: battles and time of all time. If you sit through
Speaker 4: the whole three sixty six do you walk out no
Speaker 4: parole versus if you leave early your parole, It's like
Speaker 4: you're trading ten days of parole for one day of
Speaker 4: time in or how does that work?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't know because I never
Speaker 1: went to prison. Obviously I did end up going, but
Speaker 1: we just.
Speaker 3: Seems like a bartering thing.
Speaker 4: We'll let you out two years early, but you want
Speaker 4: parole for six years or something. You know, if you
Speaker 4: just sit there, you're just done and clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to talk to some people about that.
Speaker 1: I make sure I ask. That's a great question. Good point.
Speaker 2: So fast forward right.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, I'm gonna set it up, but we
Speaker 1: probably should take this deal.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna try to get this case, this
Speaker 1: mess based off motions blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blaheah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It sound like trash to me because this motherfucking judge
Speaker 1: and these two crackers behind me. That's police day for sure.
Speaker 1: Like this nigga is selling sharman. I was you going
Speaker 1: to jail?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: You going to jail? So you look crazy right now?
Speaker 1: Joy Like I'm in an attic. So fast forward right,
Speaker 1: cuz he walk in there, he walking there right, and
Speaker 1: I'm waiting. They finally go up. You're like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know some so and so this case should be dismissed
Speaker 1: because of motion blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know they talking that old that Latin shit whatever
Speaker 1: they're talking on fucking courtrooms. Cuz and uh, just shid stop.
Speaker 1: He looked over start looking over his father. You know what,
Speaker 1: You're right, mister Pennaman, congratulations, you've just been granted to
Speaker 1: your laugh giess, this case is dismissed.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: But before he said that, I remember seeing this little
Speaker 1: empty prayer walking to the courtroom. God, if you get
Speaker 1: me out of this, I'd never say a shirme in
Speaker 1: my life. It was empty because I didn't fucking mean it,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't that scared to go to prison. I
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like going right then and there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it was an empty prayer, cuz,
Speaker 1: and that motherfucker dismissed the case.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: I remember McDaniel's and be so mad, and I was
Speaker 1: so aergan. I was so young and arrogant. I was
Speaker 1: look back and smarter at the Niggas I'm walking out,
Speaker 1: all I'm thinking like, CAUs, I'm finna go buy some parts.
Speaker 1: I'm finna do a fifty five gallon burn, like this
Speaker 1: is finna change my life.
Speaker 2: I'm finna really get there.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go make me a million, two million dollars,
Speaker 1: like I'm going all the way.
Speaker 2: And I got into.
Speaker 1: That specific courtyard that I was at Thursday when I
Speaker 1: was getting a release from my old school truck that
Speaker 1: we was building that got impounded, and I remember getting
Speaker 1: in that yard back then and thinking of myself, like
Speaker 1: and all I could hear was his voice, like you said,
Speaker 1: if I get you out of this shit, you will
Speaker 1: never hustle this shit again.
Speaker 2: And that was a last day.
Speaker 1: Like I never saw Sharon after that, and being back
Speaker 1: in that courtyard Thursday, cause it was crazy. No siilings, Gail,
Speaker 1: that's knowledge sit sorry, my brother, Pete. I got my
Speaker 1: brother Joey west Side one Hilf of the LA Giants.
Speaker 2: Get into some real conversations. Go ahead, Pete, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Think like I haven't been down there in a long time.
Speaker 4: Like my first job out of college was on Alameda
Speaker 4: and Elsagonda. Yeah, I that's not in the same campus
Speaker 4: as the LYNN would feel like because because the girls
Speaker 4: jail is off of Alamedia place.
Speaker 3: But it was the same place. Okay, oh gotcha, got
Speaker 3: you got you got.
Speaker 2: It was a men's jail.
Speaker 1: Now they just hold men there for seventy two hours
Speaker 1: and send them to the county.
Speaker 2: Before that, it was just a men's.
Speaker 3: Jail, Okay.
Speaker 2: I just for my own visuals, you know, it's that jail.
Speaker 1: Like there was times I went to that jail, cuz,
Speaker 1: and they put me like some dicks, put me where
Speaker 1: I could see, you could see down one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventeenth Street. Cuz like I'm in jail, cousin, I'm watching
Speaker 1: homies do shit.
Speaker 2: Like they tortured me, Cousin. I remember, I was so
Speaker 2: not scared of jail. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I always say this, bro, but I never thought growing
Speaker 1: up I would be a good game banger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just did not get it.
Speaker 1: And even when I finally got put on, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, fifteen years old, I did not think
Speaker 1: I would be a good game And I'm like, all
Speaker 1: the fuck, why would y'all They were recruiting me because
Speaker 1: they wanted me to be from the set. I'm looking like,
Speaker 1: cause y'all could see that I'm not even these niggas,
Speaker 1: and dropped out of school cause this nigga, because this
Speaker 1: nigga crazy? Why would y'all want me? I get a's
Speaker 1: cause in school, but leadership right, And I think Plug
Speaker 1: knew that because he'll never give me credit.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: So they wanted me to be from the set, especially
Speaker 1: my childhood friend Moto. Look Jack, couple hommies they really
Speaker 1: wanted to be from it set, so long story short,
Speaker 1: even when I'm put on, it's like, y'all fin the
Speaker 1: set whatever. But like, I didn't think I was gonna
Speaker 1: be good at it because because it just kind of
Speaker 1: I couldn't make sense of it. It didn't really hit
Speaker 1: me that I was going to be good at gang
Speaker 1: banging until I went to jail and running the phase
Speaker 1: wasn't nothing. I never was worried no matter what madness
Speaker 1: and all the chaos because I still was at peace.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter these niggas fighting or they was talking
Speaker 1: about riot. That shit just made my blood boy and
Speaker 1: get me excited. Then I came home after that time,
Speaker 1: Couzin start bringing that same issue to the streets, like
Speaker 1: I fight every homie, fight whoever, from whicheverhood. We gonna
Speaker 1: go play football, beat everybody. We're gonna whatever, because I
Speaker 1: don't even care, you know what I mean. And once I
Speaker 1: realized that's what it was, I just wasn't scared of jail.
Speaker 1: Dyan was like a possibility, but jail was the more
Speaker 1: likely possibility.
Speaker 2: So like, once I.
Speaker 1: Realized I wasn't scared of jail, no shit, it like
Speaker 1: it was on and that really kind of changed who
Speaker 1: I was as a gang member going to jail and
Speaker 1: not being scared.
Speaker 3: I came home a tyrant, no force to turn.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: We was talking about some shit earlier, yo, and I
Speaker 1: thought of it make for a really good podcast.
Speaker 2: Nigga's doing what it takes. Yeah, and it's funny. Like
Speaker 2: I said, punning problem.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the hommy, shout out to punish your
Speaker 1: y'all know, punish your punish your a big part, instrumental
Speaker 1: part in fig Munity world. So that's the community that's
Speaker 1: back on fig that's fig Munity. You know the show,
Speaker 1: all of them shows like Punisher is like a huge architect.
Speaker 1: Shout out to cuts trailer, the I D and all
Speaker 1: the homies over there.
Speaker 2: And Problem obviously is a legend.
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, who'd.
Speaker 2: You say, punish your trail and a d.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I you said problem. I didn't know if you met
Speaker 4: a guy with a new name or or for a different.
Speaker 2: Not call it cuse Jason that problem.
Speaker 3: My problem.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him problem.
Speaker 1: Anyway, cause so so problem is is legendary rapper out
Speaker 1: of content from.
Speaker 2: Like my my, my era.
Speaker 3: They never heard of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came up together. So I know this nigga show.
Speaker 1: They used to always talk ship because they wanted me
Speaker 1: to fuck with Drake when Drake first came to the label.
Speaker 1: They wanted me to fuck with Drake. And I just
Speaker 1: didn't bond with Cus. It wasn't like I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was extremely talented and I'm from Seventh Street crip.
Speaker 2: And something about Cuz just never sat with me.
Speaker 5: Not bad.
Speaker 2: Like again, I thought he was a really cool guy.
Speaker 2: I thought Cousin was an extreme talent.
Speaker 1: But it's like like I'm a motherfucking loke, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, period, And I've really wore his la
Speaker 1: shit differently, you know what I mean. Like I wasn't
Speaker 1: letting niggas get access to it. You can't use me.
Speaker 1: You can't be down with the program if you ain't
Speaker 1: came up how I came up. So they used to
Speaker 1: always talk shit and my older brother pool different people.
Speaker 1: They's like, man, you just ain't gonna do what it take,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I guess they wanted
Speaker 1: me to work with him or let people do things.
Speaker 1: And it's true, bro, like I could not concede certain
Speaker 1: things to make it work, like my dream, like right
Speaker 1: when I got my deal when I decided to get
Speaker 1: a record deal, right, because that wasn't my idea. That
Speaker 1: was pool idea. I didn't want no record deal. I
Speaker 1: wanted to have death Ro. I mean, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be Shug Knight or Doctor Dre or somebody who ran
Speaker 1: the label easy. I did not want to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't mind being
Speaker 1: a rapper when my goal was to run a business
Speaker 1: and rap.
Speaker 2: That's because I had to.
Speaker 1: But that like one of the things I regret, Like
Speaker 1: Mac ten made me buy the Bentley. Shout out to Mac.
Speaker 1: He made me buy this Bentley, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like I wanted a Rag fifty seven, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: With the ls, he felt like that's the Bentley. Is
Speaker 5: what it took.
Speaker 1: No me listening to Couz is what it took. He said,
Speaker 1: if you get this car, everybody is gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about you having this car.
Speaker 2: It's gonna market itself. And he was right.
Speaker 1: But the problem is, and I've talked to you about
Speaker 1: this Pete like a Bentley, a g Wagon, a Porsche,
Speaker 1: different cars I had. It does mean something when you
Speaker 1: on this side of the ten Freeway and you know
Speaker 1: you you east of the four oh.
Speaker 3: Files, especially when you're east of the one ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So if you take Lou Bentley to the projects, to
Speaker 1: the to the Low Bottoms, to Inglewood, for me to
Speaker 1: South Central, to Carson to Long Beach, two hundred Park, Paramount,
Speaker 1: anywhere where the ghetto is, you are top dog. You
Speaker 1: are top dog. But the problem is, if you really
Speaker 1: want to be a superstar hip hop artist, what you
Speaker 1: are has to transition in Beverly Hills. And so if
Speaker 1: you're depending on a card to market you, that same
Speaker 1: car needs that same effect when you would go to
Speaker 1: the Stinking Rolls or when you would go to the Sls.
Speaker 2: It cannot just.
Speaker 1: Be wealth to poor people. It needs to be flavor
Speaker 1: to everybody. And so I get how mac saw marketing.
Speaker 1: You know, he's extremely brilliant in marketing because shout out
Speaker 1: to one oh. But it's like if I have that
Speaker 1: RAG fifty seven with that LS and then for Giados
Speaker 1: of them twenty two inch dang wheels.
Speaker 2: That's still the shit. In Inglewood.
Speaker 1: It's a big, bright classic car that you're driving around
Speaker 1: like it just came off the GM assembly line today,
Speaker 1: so it's still had the same effect.
Speaker 2: In the low bottoms. You might get robbed.
Speaker 1: Nigga might run up in jack Yell stupid, because this
Speaker 1: is some shit. It's still a two hundred thousand dollars car.
Speaker 1: Everybody know, even if Buller cost two hundred thousand. Know
Speaker 1: that motherfucker is big and shiny and it's worth a
Speaker 1: lot of money. But the difference is to me, when
Speaker 1: you get to Beverly Hills, like where a Bentley goes dry,
Speaker 1: where a g Wagon goes dry, where a Porsche goes dry,
Speaker 1: a fucking rag fifty seven, where a fucking LS send
Speaker 1: it on some fucking wheels, it doesn't go dry. You
Speaker 1: still become unique in that space. Not just our space,
Speaker 1: but that's space.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I will park the Billy. That shit's a blue car
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills. It's a blue fucking car in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: The g Wagon is a Soccer Moms truck in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: That ain't special. Now I jump out the Pasto and
Speaker 1: the PJS.
Speaker 2: And the g Wagon.
Speaker 1: That shit is like, damn, this nigga glasses over here,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. But Nigga soon as you get to fucking Brentwood,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. So even to me, the goal of
Speaker 1: being the greatest hip hop artist you can be, it
Speaker 1: cannot just be stuck and just to.
Speaker 2: Other ghetto people.
Speaker 1: It has to translate to even Coasta Mason, Huntington Beach,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: They gotta be like, who the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, you need that card at the old white
Speaker 1: old rich white men that live in bel Air. They see,
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, it thumbs up, God, this is nice.
Speaker 2: Hey. So a lot of the ideas of doing what
Speaker 2: it takes is weird to me.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, you feel like you could
Speaker 1: con everybody into success, or you could suck enough penis
Speaker 1: into success, or you could play a million games to
Speaker 1: get into success, and maybe you could. I just don't
Speaker 1: believe in that.
Speaker 5: I totally understand.
Speaker 3: I understand. I'm a little like I'm kind of confected.
Speaker 4: Like I see, you know from the five hundred ft view,
Speaker 4: both sides of the conversation and looking at say translating
Speaker 4: to Beverly Hills as an idea, so to speak, it's like,
Speaker 4: and I talked about this with other people. If you're
Speaker 4: a standalone brand, then like it doesn't Drake could get
Speaker 4: out of a Volkswagen Beatle, for Christ's sake. His individual
Speaker 4: brand is bigger than a car brand in his world,
Speaker 4: you know. So it's like, if you yourself transcend the
Speaker 4: ability to be associated by what's around you when it's
Speaker 4: just you, you're now the brand. If you can, if
Speaker 4: you have to do whatever it takes to kind of
Speaker 4: you know, use.
Speaker 3: Leverage to get there. Now, now you've transcended.
Speaker 4: Now It's it's like Drake doesn't shut down the Beverly
Speaker 4: Center when he goes shopping there because he's gonna cause chaos.
Speaker 4: It's just because he's gonna it's impossible from the shop,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's not because of any
Speaker 4: car he could hear rolled up. He could have gotten
Speaker 4: a number there in the back of a Hota Civic.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna have to close the store or the
Speaker 4: store is gonna malfunction in when he's in it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think also though, that's because his brand is
Speaker 1: synonymous with success at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what I mean. I mean, they've crossed
Speaker 3: that bridge.
Speaker 2: So we talking about from the start not to the finish.
Speaker 1: Now, it don't matter if Drake put up in the Prius,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter because.
Speaker 2: You he's the guy because brand with success.
Speaker 1: Kendrick is a example of it that where people associate
Speaker 1: his brand with success, So he could jump out of
Speaker 1: PRIs and it'll actually be true to brand. Jay Cole
Speaker 1: could jump out of Prius and need to be considered
Speaker 1: true to brand because everybody views those people as successful already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I was looking at it as it's like scale, right,
Speaker 4: so that's one thousand percent true, But like going from
Speaker 4: beginning to that point, it's like, regardless of whatever car
Speaker 4: you're in, if you're going to leverage, how many people
Speaker 4: can actually physically see your car?
Speaker 3: One hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, a million.
Speaker 2: So how many changes it go ahead?
Speaker 3: True?
Speaker 4: But like in the same breath, how many people are
Speaker 4: going to see your work with ex artists or whatever.
Speaker 4: And there's as many examples of that not being true
Speaker 4: as well. If you're a mediocre and you just do
Speaker 4: whatever the hell and cop a feature from Joe Blow
Speaker 4: the Bazillionaire, it's you know, you're his purse, Like I
Speaker 4: get that one thousand, But there are you know, there's
Speaker 4: there's two ways to kind of skin that cat in
Speaker 4: that regard. I don't know what y'a always want was right,
Speaker 4: and it's always different in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: Sometimes well, I think, like I said, even in that
Speaker 1: conversation with Mac, I'm not mad at his you know
Speaker 1: how he sees marketing.
Speaker 2: Again, everybody is trying to once Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I can't think past Donald Trump, and I haven't done
Speaker 1: enough homework. But Donald Trump is the first person I
Speaker 1: remember that used to market success when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid. I didn't see anybody better than at it.
Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody else do it before him.
Speaker 3: I can't really do it much since him. Were like,
Speaker 3: your name is just.
Speaker 1: Like, well, you seeing in effect hip hop all the time,
Speaker 1: You're saying it with jay Z, you seeing it with
Speaker 1: different people, right, But again, it's like that always was
Speaker 1: a bit too pretentious for me. Sure, fuck with me
Speaker 1: because fuck with me because I have money.
Speaker 2: That's just don't feel like genuine for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying whoever else don't, That's the thing I'm
Speaker 1: saying for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like his like to me, I look
Speaker 4: at Trump's things like fuck with me because anything with
Speaker 4: the Trump name on, it is gonna be a one
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, it's gonna be like high. It's you're
Speaker 4: gonna get your quality is if Trump's names get your quality.
Speaker 4: I can't guarantee every Hilton you go to. Some Hilton's
Speaker 4: a phenomenal, some are mediocre. I've never seen a mediocre
Speaker 4: Trump facility in my life.
Speaker 1: Sure when we was talking about it earlier, and as
Speaker 1: I watch different people that I know personally pursue like
Speaker 1: a level of fame, infamy and through YouTube and youtubing spaces, right,
Speaker 1: it's like somehow they believe this is what it takes,
Speaker 1: and I don't quite know if they're doing the proper
Speaker 1: work to figure out, Like, like I would love to
Speaker 1: talk to some of my homies that's becoming YouTubers, A
Speaker 1: lot of the dudes in the l A streets that's
Speaker 1: becoming YouTubers. Who do you see as success? I need
Speaker 1: to know who they see like an ant from a tray,
Speaker 1: like a like a uh like uh, like milk from
Speaker 1: cheven Fold, like Slim from five or Slim.
Speaker 2: Seven, right, Uh?
Speaker 1: I would love to see who do they see as success?
Speaker 1: Like in those spaces. I mean, so I could kind
Speaker 1: of see exactly how are they modeling their business or
Speaker 1: where do they see economically, you know, the business growing too,
Speaker 1: because I mean maybe it's nobody.
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't look.
Speaker 5: Maybe they just believe it's into.
Speaker 6: It's a hustle another means to just a hustle for
Speaker 6: few dollars, you know what I'm saying. I do also
Speaker 6: think too, they think it brings attention to probably something
Speaker 6: else they are doing, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: if you rapping, you feel like, Okay, if I do
Speaker 6: this and I know y'all intrigued by this, and I'm
Speaker 6: a part of this culture, y'all go tune into this
Speaker 6: and that'll make that to translate you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying into my music, When really it's that's like a
Speaker 6: slippery slope because if you gain people into like you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, yo, I guess like the culture,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and what you represent, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, and things of that nature, they
Speaker 6: be wanting just that from you and they won't even
Speaker 6: want nothing else. It's like, na, we came here to
Speaker 6: see this and get this, so whatever it else you do,
Speaker 6: we don't even care. About that, Like, give us this,
Speaker 6: because really we're waiting to see something bad happen with
Speaker 6: all this shit everybody like that universe, that YouTube universe,
Speaker 6: like with the fans, like because they really they be
Speaker 6: instigating in comments like then you don't know who that
Speaker 6: is behind the comment, but they just studied everybody to
Speaker 6: the point where they be finding out things from studying
Speaker 6: everybody and asking questions and trying to provoke niggas to
Speaker 6: say certain things and certain things you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: and whatever they say if it gets some views and
Speaker 6: it pop off or they feel like, yeah, that shit
Speaker 6: hit thirty thousand views in twelve minutes, nigga, we own
Speaker 6: niggas popping. I'm viral, Like niggas think fifteen thousand views
Speaker 6: is viral, or even one hundred thousand views, Like.
Speaker 4: I think there's a certain like market purity to doing
Speaker 4: things for the fame when you're in an environment that
Speaker 4: is defined by simply your visibility metrics, Like it's it's corny,
Speaker 4: it can be cheesy, it can be a lot of
Speaker 4: different things. But if you're just simply doing things for
Speaker 4: the fame and you don't really care, but you're dynamic
Speaker 4: and nimble enough to be able to realize, Okay, today,
Speaker 4: this is gonna garner me attention. You just keep doing
Speaker 4: that over and over and over and over. Let somebody
Speaker 4: else worry about the monetization apparatus. If you just have
Speaker 4: an innate ability to sit back, look and do things
Speaker 4: for the attention, there is a certain integrity to that.
Speaker 3: In a competitive market space, that's just simply vying for attention, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, I mean gang banging in a nutshell, that's
Speaker 1: pretty much the existence, right. It's the person who's a
Speaker 1: warrior because he's trying to build his brand.
Speaker 2: And you know, most game bankers want.
Speaker 1: People to like a A successful gang banger is a
Speaker 1: popular gang banger, sure, you know what I mean. His
Speaker 1: name carries a presidents about it, like he gonna do
Speaker 1: his thing when it's time.
Speaker 3: Popular like liked, or popular like feared.
Speaker 1: So it's weird, right, because the the the idea is
Speaker 1: the general consensus is fear. But it's not. It's really respected.
Speaker 1: It's like that nigga, No, not to fuck with me,
Speaker 1: because it's not. You know, most game bankers don't want
Speaker 1: to be the person that walk in the room and
Speaker 1: everybody leaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want to be that game member. Okay,
Speaker 2: they want to walk.
Speaker 1: They want to walk in the room. Everybody like, oh
Speaker 1: he here, and they know not to fuck with him because.
Speaker 2: I think that. I think the general consensus is fear, but.
Speaker 1: I think the reality is respect, and then respect and
Speaker 1: fear sometimes kind of fuck each other up.
Speaker 3: I think respect is somewhere. But is the com Yeah?
Speaker 5: Is it? Is?
Speaker 4: It better be loved and feared. Respect is is the purple?
Speaker 4: If red is one bleus the other, respect is the
Speaker 4: per It's.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, because it is a level of deep admiration.
Speaker 4: It's hard to respect someone if you really don't like
Speaker 4: them like that. It's possible, but it's kind of hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I can do it. But you're right,
Speaker 1: it ain't standard. That's a good point. I never thought
Speaker 1: about it. Or you got the guys that's trying to
Speaker 1: make some money. I mean, but that's how they raise
Speaker 1: their social status. I mean, either they balling or they
Speaker 1: on some bullshit.
Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna go all the way.
Speaker 1: I guess to some degree, we could say, like somebody
Speaker 1: that's from the corner, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: YouTube creates a new version of social currency in said community.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what I mean, I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: I guess maybe shit, why not? But I just I
Speaker 1: just can't imagine, you know what that makes sense? That
Speaker 1: makes sense, like because I can't. What I'm not registering
Speaker 1: is that people are doing these things for like this
Speaker 1: limited amount of money.
Speaker 2: If they're seeing any money.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't make sense to me because they like, who
Speaker 1: are you looking at to do the business? Even like
Speaker 1: when it came to de boy and you would look
Speaker 1: up to the local de boy and that will become
Speaker 1: your model of what you're doing.
Speaker 6: Or it could be they could be looking at someone
Speaker 6: who claiming that they making a certain amount of money
Speaker 6: off of it, you know what I'm saying, and they like, oh, nigga,
Speaker 6: I could do that too. And I do think it's
Speaker 6: a people don't understand that there's a way to be
Speaker 6: like you were just saying it, like, there's a there's
Speaker 6: a space where you can do this in.
Speaker 5: An integral way, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I don't think people I think they underestimate the
Speaker 6: skill it take to be good at even being a
Speaker 6: YouTube I mean like telling stories or creating content and
Speaker 6: all that and I think they see certain people and
Speaker 6: they think they can a lot of them don't know
Speaker 6: that they're not good at what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I mean it's like people use the term
Speaker 3: attention horror.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Well, if you ask some people me, horrores were the
Speaker 4: only honest women in la If it's crazy. If your
Speaker 4: modus operandi is end game attention, if you hit there's
Speaker 4: a point, you hit critical mass. If what you're doing
Speaker 4: garners enough attention, you don't need to be good at
Speaker 4: those other things. Other things won't come to you because
Speaker 4: people are gonna be like, I mean, shit, well this
Speaker 4: guy's getting looked at six hundred times a week.
Speaker 3: Let's just hit him up and see what he wants
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 4: Maybe no one else is called first, but that's not
Speaker 4: It might not happen at.
Speaker 3: Sixty thousand a week.
Speaker 4: So it all kind of you know, there's certain points
Speaker 4: where you just kind of you just do it enough
Speaker 4: and get enough eyes, things are gonna happen for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a wo man. I don't know
Speaker 5: though it throws. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it just turned it to something I think
Speaker 6: they think is easy, simple and in a hustle man
Speaker 6: and like you say, I don't know if it's for
Speaker 6: this limited amount of money, because where are they scaling it?
Speaker 6: Like how much money you've seen somebody make in your
Speaker 6: field of what they're doing. But you've got some dudes
Speaker 6: on here who claiming to be rich off of it,
Speaker 6: even if they never seen it, so they may believe
Speaker 6: it and be like, damn, nigga rich, I could do that.
Speaker 6: I'm over silent nigga in this nigga or wooh whoop,
Speaker 6: I could do that, And then they get on there
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But they could be lying.
Speaker 6: They can be lying about the money they make, and
Speaker 6: a lot of them are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like.
Speaker 4: Look at all these like like the Instagram fitness girls.
Speaker 4: Whatever the hell they've got two and a half million
Speaker 4: followers on Instagram and x number on Twitter, x number
Speaker 4: on this and that and whatever.
Speaker 3: They have an aggregate five million followers. They don't do
Speaker 3: what they do lunches in tiny shorts all day long.
Speaker 4: The talent is not there, right, but they garner enough
Speaker 4: attention that they get sponsorships because people are called call
Speaker 4: them sponsorships and.
Speaker 3: They just take them out. Okay, Yeah, And then you
Speaker 3: see this bumpkin ass chick. I take oh no, no,
Speaker 3: no, no no, no, no plan based protein and I'm happy.
Speaker 4: And they get twenty thousand for the week because six
Speaker 4: million people saw it, right, So I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's a weird, that's it. It's there's an opaqueness
Speaker 4: to the reality of it.
Speaker 2: But to some degree does it become the new lottery?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 3: Like it's close and I have a.
Speaker 2: Six million fathers, like, it's very rare.
Speaker 1: Sure you to genuinely have five to six million followers
Speaker 1: with no talent, there's going to be a very like
Speaker 1: like like they.
Speaker 2: Hit the lottery, it's probably the same number.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a dedication.
Speaker 4: And there's a girl that I know personally and she's
Speaker 4: very nice, very sweet, and she's very ardent in what
Speaker 4: she does and doesn't want to do you know, with herself,
Speaker 4: her image, her page or whatever. But she's well in
Speaker 4: the nearing a million and we've been cool for like
Speaker 4: a lot of years. She doesn't have money like that,
Speaker 4: but I know for a fact she turns down a
Speaker 4: lot and she was like, man, I don't know what
Speaker 4: to do with my money. Is got all these issues?
Speaker 4: I'm like, you got seven hundred and ninety five thousand followers.
Speaker 3: Take the checks.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to turn my thing into a
Speaker 4: into the Yellow Pages. That's your choice, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. But she's not out there.
Speaker 2: But what else does she have that is weird? Why?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: Why else do she have it?
Speaker 5: Social?
Speaker 6: At that point, I have no answers that social currency
Speaker 6: give motherfuckers high man.
Speaker 4: I have no answers for her for the rationale. I
Speaker 4: just know that she's nice, she works really hard and
Speaker 4: looking good. She looks really good, and that is her.
Speaker 6: I never forget one time I've seen a girl post
Speaker 6: some shit years ago on Facebook, years ago, and for
Speaker 6: whatever she posted, it got like a lot of likes,
Speaker 6: probably like more likes than she ever got, and she
Speaker 6: was like damn going up on this one, and then
Speaker 6: like you had to excite it and it was like
Speaker 6: probably like one hundred and twenty lights on something.
Speaker 5: But that shit like just boosted her. It's steamed, you
Speaker 5: feel me.
Speaker 6: No, it wasn't selling nothing, It wasn't nothing about talent.
Speaker 6: It wasn't nothing, you know what I mean. It could
Speaker 6: have just been I don't remember what the post was.
Speaker 6: That shit really be like turning people on.
Speaker 1: I used to always think, bro, when people would tell
Speaker 1: me certain things like, oh man, to do this, you're
Speaker 1: gonna you know, one thing you hear in the music
Speaker 1: industry is that you heard about even people to me
Speaker 1: that I that I grew up listening to like a puff,
Speaker 1: Like if you ain't like, if they can't change your
Speaker 1: sexual preference to some degree, you're not gonna make it.
Speaker 2: And I think we've all heard that along.
Speaker 5: Wait what.
Speaker 3: You heard them?
Speaker 1: If you not to be gay for pay, if you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna take a dick or suck a dick, your
Speaker 1: journey into the elite level of the business is gonna
Speaker 1: be harder.
Speaker 5: He said that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying people used to say that to me
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you hear that to this day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I heard that right, And I used to
Speaker 1: write it off as niggas who didn't made it, niggas
Speaker 1: who didn't make it making it why they didn't make it?
Speaker 5: Sure you didn't make it because you didn't.
Speaker 2: Suck peenis Yeah, I was like that's how Like, come on, bro, Like,
Speaker 2: so do.
Speaker 5: That mean you looked at all the niggas that made it?
Speaker 1: Well, so I didn't really see it that way. I
Speaker 1: didn't believe them. I thought them niggas was crazy. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. All these men ain't got no men sucking
Speaker 1: them up, and all of these men are not gay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that was my thought for a long time.
Speaker 1: Now my thought is a little different, Like I haven't
Speaker 1: quite gave into that concept of believing that. But what
Speaker 1: I do believe in birds of a feather fly together.
Speaker 1: People fuck with people that do the ship that they do.
Speaker 1: So it's like people who I know fuck with me,
Speaker 1: but they not gonna double down on fuck with me
Speaker 1: because I don't drink.
Speaker 4: Look yeah, like white business, networking, golf, cigars and fly fishing.
Speaker 2: Mmm, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think if if some dude is, if some dude
Speaker 1: is knocking dudes down and you not into that, well
Speaker 1: maybe he's not gonna spend as much time with you.
Speaker 4: He's probably remember that old I think it was like
Speaker 4: a PEPSI saw like knocking those down. If you could
Speaker 4: do a rebase on knocking dudes down talking about right, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or like if you like drugs, like I know for sure,
Speaker 1: a lot of the dudes I know in the business
Speaker 1: do drugs and I don't do drugs, So why would
Speaker 1: you hang with me if I don't do drugs?
Speaker 6: You know what, You're right, man, because I just even
Speaker 6: just from experience, like a lot of shit I don't
Speaker 6: do right, like I could be looked at as like
Speaker 6: a born ass nigga you feel me and.
Speaker 5: Pull up like that, or if any.
Speaker 6: It just be me at the crib, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, because I'm not doing none of that, and
Speaker 6: you can't.
Speaker 2: Do it here.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think I like, if somebody just
Speaker 1: leaned over and did a line, I'd probably be a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, I'd be probably.
Speaker 6: It's hey, bro, you you ain't no. Probably when I've
Speaker 6: seen it before, Bro, I was offended.
Speaker 2: Okay, does that make me judgmental?
Speaker 5: I jump.
Speaker 4: You've hit a hot but man, it is prudent to
Speaker 4: be judgmental, and you are not exercising judgment if you
Speaker 4: are not judging judging others, I'm not saying condemn them
Speaker 4: whatever the hell. You don't have the power to condemn anybody,
Speaker 4: but you judge. You have to judge people. You have
Speaker 4: to judge your surround You have to judge what's going
Speaker 4: on that people who live by don't judge nobody. Those
Speaker 4: people surround themselves with ship people and get fucked over
Speaker 4: by it routine have an exercise judgment to make judging
Speaker 4: and cause.
Speaker 5: Judge.
Speaker 1: What about people that drink alcohol? See, my problem is
Speaker 1: I see alcohol like I see a line.
Speaker 3: That's what I don't know, because like alcoholics.
Speaker 1: Making something legal does not justify exactly what I think
Speaker 1: is somebody doing something.
Speaker 2: Wise in somebody doing something.
Speaker 6: You're a marketing guy, right, You're a marketing guy. I've
Speaker 6: a lot different than cod in peels and crack.
Speaker 3: And we'll think about this.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Pete, I'm sorry, take the marketing out of
Speaker 4: it and said, I've only drank so this is speculative,
Speaker 4: just just observational. I've I've never done a drug period
Speaker 4: of any kind. I don't know what I'm willing to
Speaker 4: bet big time money if you there's no hitting a
Speaker 4: little bit of myth. You know what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 4: no hitting no one. No one has a slight buzz
Speaker 4: off crack. I know there's some spectrum on coke, but
Speaker 4: it's kind of like you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 4: it's like I could have a margarita and and you
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about it. My biggest issue, I'm
Speaker 4: not bothered by people who do drugs around me. Sometimes
Speaker 4: I'm pissed off because it's like, bro, you're putting me
Speaker 4: at risk of being in an associate of possession. Her
Speaker 4: potential issue here if there's a problem. But I don't
Speaker 4: like people that are crazy. I'm uncomfortable by around like
Speaker 4: schizophrenic holes people. I don't know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 4: I can't read you like I can read a normal person.
Speaker 4: If you're shitty drunk, I don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 4: do next. If you're high as fuck, I don't know
Speaker 4: what you're gonna do next. But if you have a beer,
Speaker 4: I know what the fuck you're gonna do next. You're
Speaker 4: not gonna do shit, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: I don't know how the other drugs work. You pop up,
Speaker 4: you pop up hill. I don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 4: after that pill.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just know growing up man like liquor and we
Speaker 6: was just you know, normal, But.
Speaker 2: You don't think that's legal.
Speaker 1: Because forty years before that, it was literally the worst
Speaker 1: thing in the world.
Speaker 5: Right, and it's still bad for you if you abuse it, right, But.
Speaker 2: So can we say the same thing for cocaine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you mean to me? It is the one
Speaker 4: off factor. I've never heard of anybody first.
Speaker 2: Timing and somebody who do percocets.
Speaker 1: Is it only bad if you abuse it? It's to
Speaker 1: me the issue is like a girl who used percocets
Speaker 1: the way you drink alcohol.
Speaker 4: I mean what meaning that she took a purpose of
Speaker 4: pilll and nipped half, like an eighth of it off
Speaker 4: and had it once every four days. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: the issue with those things is And believe me, I've
Speaker 4: tried you try to perk. No, I don't try to perk.
Speaker 4: I've drank enough alcohol to turn out my lights, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen like that.
Speaker 4: You can lend bias it by accident easily, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think that's the issue.
Speaker 4: And and and people look like like I can I
Speaker 4: critique libertarians.
Speaker 3: People should be allowed to whatever.
Speaker 4: Okay, great, if you want to legalize heroin, then you
Speaker 4: can't legalize on the production side.
Speaker 3: Standards for brake pads.
Speaker 4: How are you gonna say that the heroin producer has
Speaker 4: no standard of outcome for its consumer, but brake pads
Speaker 4: have a standard of outcome.
Speaker 3: For their consumer. You have to have equal application to
Speaker 3: the law.
Speaker 4: That becomes a challenge because a little bit of pure
Speaker 4: heroin might do you.
Speaker 1: In, just like alcohol though, Like I'm sure real alcohol,
Speaker 1: not this kind of version of alcohol that y'all drink today,
Speaker 1: but like probably real alcohol probably fucked people over.
Speaker 3: I've had eighty percent illegal off the.
Speaker 5: Market glass thing. You ain't got a name to it.
Speaker 4: It's just hard or off market moonshine or off market
Speaker 4: what do you call it?
Speaker 2: Ever clear?
Speaker 3: I've had that.
Speaker 1: I used to people this is I mean, like back
Speaker 1: when the prohibition happened.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the.
Speaker 1: Purpose also was alcohol was a powerful you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: It was a powerful situation.
Speaker 4: Will you shrink it? You distill it down to the
Speaker 4: part you could transport it?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It's you don't want to be bringing in seventeen tons
Speaker 4: of coca leaf from Colombia.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get cop I'm thinking it got it the
Speaker 1: way cocaine is now, it ain't nowhere near probably as
Speaker 1: great as.
Speaker 2: It once was.
Speaker 1: Hands on where you buy it, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: buy an America, because if it came through, if you
Speaker 1: came through our side of America, right on the West,
Speaker 1: it probably got stepped on three four times.
Speaker 5: It's just the way you it's the way you muse
Speaker 5: it too. Though. That got a lot to do with
Speaker 5: it too.
Speaker 1: So if there was a Chili's bar for cocaine, you'll
Speaker 1: feel good about it.
Speaker 2: You'd be like, you know what, I ain't tripping. They
Speaker 2: give you a heater on a line.
Speaker 6: No, it just what you do that nigga, you know,
Speaker 6: sniffing it, that's just that's just a weird activity.
Speaker 3: I would drink coca leaf tea, cocaine tea.
Speaker 4: I heard one of my friends moms and like they
Speaker 4: had a lot of money. So like, I mean they
Speaker 4: weren't like they were great people, great people, but like
Speaker 4: they traveled the world a lot, you know, the parents,
Speaker 4: and they went and did some hike, high altitude hike
Speaker 4: in Peruin, the Andes. And remember for years like hearing
Speaker 4: about like from this my friend's and mom like, yeah,
Speaker 4: when you get altitude headaches or whatever, they give you
Speaker 4: coca leaf tea. And it's very and it's like super mild.
Speaker 4: Your headache goes away. But that's like why.
Speaker 1: Versus never clear m I always thought BC powder was cocaine?
Speaker 5: What powers powder?
Speaker 2: What was that old black when you used to take
Speaker 2: BZ powder when I was younger.
Speaker 5: Knocking that she used to knocking nigga tooth fake out?
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha? Got well?
Speaker 4: Like I think that's like you know, the turn like
Speaker 4: like novacane. They used to use cocaine as a local anesthetic. Sure,
Speaker 4: and they synthesized you know novacane.
Speaker 6: No, you use it for medicine. Is when you started
Speaker 6: abusing it, you know. I mean, these are drugs, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But should we say the same thing alcohol at that
Speaker 1: point it's fair if.
Speaker 2: Somebody I'm not fatiguing, I'm asking.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My only thing about alcohol and weed that separates them
Speaker 4: from a lot of other stuff is it's really really
Speaker 4: hard to have a one off accident with those versus
Speaker 4: other things where it can happen, and it does happen.
Speaker 3: For Ja, that's the only that's my only life.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The ship they doing to these other things is crazy,
Speaker 6: like what they you know, with the whole fining off ship,
Speaker 6: like you know, with the pills, the cocaine. You know,
Speaker 6: then these niggas just doing like five drugs. Yeah, like
Speaker 6: they smoke weed, drinking, sniff coke, simp, pill whatever and
Speaker 6: then eat the worst food. Is like, nigga, you high
Speaker 6: high right now, your body don't know what the fuck
Speaker 6: they want to do. Sleep, nigga, jog You feel me,
Speaker 6: fight and your body just going through it.
Speaker 5: You feel me. That's another thing, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And anybody that can't solve a problem and uses that
Speaker 4: as a replacement for solving problem.
Speaker 3: I think there's a big, big, big problem.
Speaker 4: I noticed it more in California and other states where
Speaker 4: weeds more legal and more you.
Speaker 3: More constant than like here.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who can't solve a problem emotionally,
Speaker 4: can't go from beginning to end through the process of whatever.
Speaker 4: So they gotta I gotta get I gotta smoke weedle
Speaker 4: if if you can never go from being like I'm cool,
Speaker 4: something happened, I have anxiety, I have stress, I'm upset,
Speaker 4: and solve the problem then emotionally bounced back from that
Speaker 4: on your own. If you retard that ability by getting
Speaker 4: high in the middle of the cycle every single solitary
Speaker 4: time for years.
Speaker 3: You now have problems, you know.
Speaker 4: And the same is true for alcohol, Like if I
Speaker 4: if I stopped, and if I had five cocktails a day,
Speaker 4: like I know girls that have five blends a day
Speaker 4: or that hit part of a blunt five times a day,
Speaker 4: Like people would show up at my place and have
Speaker 4: an intervention. You can't have five cocktails before work, at
Speaker 4: break after work, you can't. That's problem behavior. That's big
Speaker 4: time problem behavior.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Them blust smoking smoking girls too, they start getting them
Speaker 6: black and pink lips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the least of their problems.
Speaker 4: That's like honestly, that stress stress one of them out
Speaker 4: when there's no weed around and and and it's.
Speaker 1: You know, black lips come from like them smoking, like
Speaker 1: like when you get too little andy start burning their lips.
Speaker 6: I think, So, I'm not sure. We got to get
Speaker 6: one of them with the black and pink lips and
Speaker 6: ask them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess, I guess, I guess. Let me
Speaker 2: revise my thought, like.
Speaker 1: My So, where I'm at now is do I believe
Speaker 1: you have to start doing some morally unscrupulous things to
Speaker 1: be successful?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: But then where we're saying success is at are we called?
Speaker 1: And success? Making two million dollars a year? I don't
Speaker 1: think you really got to do anything morally reprehensible.
Speaker 2: At that point.
Speaker 1: But I think to get the twenty million where we
Speaker 1: come from, you're probably gonna have to start doing.
Speaker 2: Some shit that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it really morally reprehensible if you suck
Speaker 1: a dick to get a twenty million dollars deal?
Speaker 2: If you're not.
Speaker 6: Gay, yeah, well you're gay at that point.
Speaker 2: But what if you just did it for the twenty
Speaker 2: million and you never did it again.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's morally off.
Speaker 4: Like the only scenario in which I like, if someone
Speaker 4: like if I had a little daughter who's four, and
Speaker 4: someone put a knife to her throat and says, suck,
Speaker 4: They're not gonna slice your daughter's head off. You have
Speaker 4: to like I would, you might have to do whatever
Speaker 4: you have to do to save your daughter's life. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's a different circumstance.
Speaker 2: What about two hundred million.
Speaker 5: I don't need two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: Sorry, If I'm not saving my little girl's life or
Speaker 4: something like that, we're really not doing this, like I mean,
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 5: At that point, it's not like, well.
Speaker 4: You can either cut your arm off with the elbow,
Speaker 4: suck a dick, or your daughter's getting decapitated by Joe
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 3: It's in that world. Yeah, I'm gonna start and be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll take the arm whatever.
Speaker 5: But if it's not that million, that bad it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, but at that point, it's like, you can't.
Speaker 4: I feel like there's you have to be a different
Speaker 4: of person to be able to enjoy tw hundred million
Speaker 4: because you don't because you don't have the pride in
Speaker 4: it like a lot of people in that at that level,
Speaker 4: you don't just stagger into two hundred million dollars. You
Speaker 4: have to have a real desire to be good at
Speaker 4: what you do. You know you're not good at what
Speaker 4: you do. You know you don't deserve the money. You know,
Speaker 4: all the ship that you're using to project, all the
Speaker 4: successes based off of the fact that you're mediocre and
Speaker 4: you suck that guy's dick who granted that to you,
Speaker 4: He owns you.
Speaker 6: That's a different like the nigga at the fire remember
Speaker 6: the nigga with ru for the fireface.
Speaker 7: Make the deal happy? They look what happened with the fireface.
Speaker 7: I don't think that was worth it, buddy, No, But so.
Speaker 2: What it takes? What does it take? I think that's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think most people really do research on where
Speaker 1: they're trying to go.
Speaker 2: I agreed.
Speaker 1: I think most people are just doing something that they
Speaker 1: think will raise their social status and possibly make them
Speaker 1: some money. Because I just like, I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: biggest YouTubers, you know, and Jake and Logan, and like
Speaker 1: I was saying to you earlier, then motherfuckers is boxing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean, look at Steve Oh.
Speaker 4: He made bazillions of dollars of money lighting himself on fire,
Speaker 4: jumping off of balconies, having people pierced the side of
Speaker 4: his face with a fish hook ice cold like.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 3: Shit wasn't like he did a million things I.
Speaker 5: Would differ do Yeah.
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