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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis but Sexton Show, Final Hour of

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Speaker 1: the Week, and I just teased what I think.

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Speaker 2: It is a significant story, and I think it may

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Speaker 2: be the most significant story long term that is going

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Speaker 2: on right now. And by long term, I mean you're

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Speaker 2: going to start to see it in a significant way

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Speaker 2: in the twenty thirty census, and it is going to

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Speaker 2: change I think much of what in terms of political

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Speaker 2: power exists in this country, and that is you are

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Speaker 2: seeing high earners finally get fed up with left wing

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Speaker 2: governance and they are fleeing California, Illinois, New York, Washington State.

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Speaker 2: And I just talked about two different stories that are

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Speaker 2: happening simultaneously on the left coast and the right coast

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Speaker 2: of this country. Out on the left coast in Washington State,

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Speaker 2: they are proposing and it looks like going to pass

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Speaker 2: a nine point nine percent yearly income tax state income

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Speaker 2: tax on anyone who makes a million dollars or more. Simultaneously,

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Speaker 2: Buck Mom, Donnie, and I believe we have an audio

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Speaker 2: cut of this is saying that he wants a fifty

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Speaker 2: percent estate tax on his states of seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars or more. That's basically buck anybody that

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Speaker 2: owns any property at all in New York City, and

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Speaker 2: you can own a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: place in New York City and not be wealthy at all.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you can struggle to even pay your bills.

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Speaker 2: And some of you are going to say, how is

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Speaker 2: that possible? Because of the taxes and because of cost

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Speaker 2: of living. Here is Mam Donnie talking about this. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's listen. I believe it's cut twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Amidst being in the wealthiest city, in the wealthiest country

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Speaker 3: in the history of the world, you already see an

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Speaker 3: exodus of working in middle class New Yorkers. So I

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Speaker 3: don't have a hesitation in asking those who make the

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Speaker 3: most amount of money in the city or the most

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Speaker 3: profits in the city to pay a little bit more

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Speaker 3: so that everyone can actually stay in the city. It's

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Speaker 3: also something not just about justice or the ability for

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Speaker 3: working class people to live here. It is also actually

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Speaker 3: about ensuring that corporations can continue to attract the top

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Speaker 3: talent to this city.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is it is.

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Speaker 2: Let me take a step back when you look at

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Speaker 2: the actual world, because I'm fired up about this Bucket,

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Speaker 2: So I want to be crystal clear on this. The

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Speaker 2: data reflects that whenever you put these taxes in place,

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Speaker 2: you do not get the money that you expect you're

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Speaker 2: going to get because those who can avoid paying the

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Speaker 2: tax and leave or find super impressive accounting to avoid

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Speaker 2: paying the tax due, and so you actually end up

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Speaker 2: netting less in tax because you were driving away the

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Speaker 2: biggest in come tax payers. And Buck, I see it

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Speaker 2: in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: We have moved.

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Speaker 2: We have a couple of neighbors. My builder said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: a couple of your neighbors now are New York guys.

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Speaker 1: They were just fed up with taxes.

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Speaker 2: They realized during COVID, Hey we can run our businesses

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Speaker 2: as well from other states as we can here, Buck,

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Speaker 2: in your neighborhood, there's guys coming in like crazy, with

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Speaker 2: big with big wealth that are just saying, hey, whether

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Speaker 2: it's Mark Zuckerberg, whether it's Peter Tiel, whether it's Howard Schultz.

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Speaker 2: We could go through a whole list of people that

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Speaker 2: have just said I'm done with California, I'm done with

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Speaker 2: New York, I'm done with Illinois, I'm done with Washington,

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Speaker 2: I'm done with these high tax locales, and some of

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Speaker 2: you out there are saying, Oh, I'm so nervous, these

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Speaker 2: people are like Locust. What I can tell you is

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Speaker 2: they're actually making the red redder. Go look at the

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Speaker 2: voter rolls in Florida, go look at the outcome in

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Speaker 2: Tennessee and Texas. We are gaining a lot of super impressive,

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Speaker 2: talented people Elon Muskin, Texas. Starbucks of all places, just

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Speaker 2: announced they're going to hire thousands of new people in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Oracle is relocating to Nashville, And the people that are

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Speaker 2: by and large moving into these communities and red states

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Speaker 2: are actually making them better and buck. This is going

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Speaker 2: to be transformative on so many different levels because what

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Speaker 2: it's gonna do is it's gonna make the low tax

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Speaker 2: states have way better services. And the people that are

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Speaker 2: Washington are going to keep getting taxed at higher rates.

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Speaker 2: The tax base is going to be leaving, and the

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Speaker 2: resources and tax base is just going to continue to diminish.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a huge story. Again, there's two

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Speaker 1: different kinds of billionaires in my mind, who end up

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Speaker 1: leaving New York California, Washington State, and there's a concentration

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Speaker 1: of billionaires those places.

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Speaker 1: You have Silicon Valley in California, you have the Microsoft

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Speaker 1: in Seattle and you have so you have billionaires there too,

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Speaker 1: and obviously a lot of billionaires in New York. But

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Speaker 1: the ultra rich who moved to Florida who have always

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Speaker 1: supported the insane Democrat policies and always said things like

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Speaker 1: I think we should pay more taxes and I think

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Speaker 1: we should have bigger government and blah blah blah, all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. They really tick me off. And there's a difference.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have the Elon Musks and people like him.

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Speaker 1: And Peter Tiel has been helping the right and been

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Speaker 1: on been on the right for a long time, so

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Speaker 1: he's not he's not like new to the game. But

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Speaker 1: you have Peter Til, you have Elon Musk. You have

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Speaker 1: people who have come forward and say the Democrat approach

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Speaker 1: to governance fails. I don't want my companies to be

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Speaker 1: subjected to this idiocy anymore. I'm going to Texas, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to Florida. And that's great because they are telling

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Speaker 1: everybody what the reality is, and they are therefore a

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Speaker 1: part of the solution. The challenge that I see here

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Speaker 1: is people like Schultz, because he's been so you know,

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Speaker 1: left wing and lib for so long. The Starbucks CEO.

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Speaker 1: He's going to come on down to Florida. He's going

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Speaker 1: to buy some fifty million dollar waterfront place and the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, and he's going to be writing checks to Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to be pushing the same nonsense. And

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Speaker 1: you just, you know, what does it take for these

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Speaker 1: people to realize? By the way, imagine this, Clay, if

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Speaker 1: you had to move your company and you started off

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee, so you've been good to go the whole reason, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you had to move your company from a

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Speaker 1: people are taxed too much, the crime is too high,

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Speaker 1: there's crazy homeless people attacking them on public transit, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Wouldn't you want to say.

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Speaker 5: Something about that publicly when you were moving to Tennessee

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Speaker 5: or Florida, you know, wouldn't you want to come out

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Speaker 5: and just like have at it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: No, they're just.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be like, yeah, you know, we're just keeping residences

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Speaker 5: in multiple states, and Schultz is going to be a

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Speaker 2: I can assure you I will say what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: First of all, of course I would run my mouth.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't mean you would. I meant anyone would.

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Speaker 2: But I will say, to her credit, the in and

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Speaker 2: out owner of the Burger franchise, she relocated to basically

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Speaker 2: my neighborhood, and she teed off on Californa.

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Speaker 1: She's right, but she's she's the sane person. She's a

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Speaker 1: little bit she's a reasonable human being. Right she own

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Speaker 1: is that I agree with you. This is what gets

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Speaker 1: me so angry. If you have FU money and you

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Speaker 1: are what are you afraid of? Well, this is if

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Speaker 1: you like California for Austin and you still think that

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Speaker 1: you should do California stuff in Austin while surrounded by

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Speaker 1: the rest of Texas, you are an imbecile and you

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Speaker 1: are ruining the community you have moved to.

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Speaker 2: This is where I think Elon has actually created a

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Speaker 2: lot of space, because there are many people that agree

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Speaker 2: with everything that we say inside of companies that have

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Speaker 2: gone woke and every now and then they'll come up

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Speaker 2: to me and they'll say, they'll whisper. They'll be like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I work at insert company here, and I can't tell

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Speaker 2: you you know how many people inside of this company

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Speaker 2: will sometimes share tweets or segments from your show, like

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Speaker 2: we have like a secret you know, text chain and everybody.

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Speaker 2: I get why, Guys that are trying to make a living,

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Speaker 2: Guys and gals out there that you know, you've got

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Speaker 2: and you got to pay mortgage and all those things.

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Speaker 2: The people that really infuriate me are the ones who

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Speaker 2: could no he could ever do anything to right if

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Speaker 2: you have twenty five million dollars in America today, the

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Speaker 2: odds of anybody being able to do anything to you

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Speaker 2: or your family that ever would impact and I'm being

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Speaker 2: generous at twenty five.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot. Okay, it's less than that. Afternoon,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like they're some of the biggest cowards on the planet

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Speaker 2: are super rich guys because they're afraid, oh am I

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Speaker 2: going to be able to sit on this charity benefit

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Speaker 2: if I say what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: When you're super rich, what do you still want. You

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Speaker 1: want the approval of your peer group, not everybody, but

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Speaker 1: this is what ends up happening. You want people to

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Speaker 1: think well of you who also have beachfront homes in

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Speaker 1: the Hamptons and Nantucket and live in bel Air and

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Speaker 1: live in Malibu and and live in Kalorama and a

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Speaker 1: them to like you because everything else you already have.

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Speaker 1: You're surrounded by people who kiss your butt all the

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Speaker 1: time because you're paying all their bills and they need you.

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Speaker 1: So what you want are the other people. You want

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Speaker 1: the other rich guys and gals to say, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: doing great stuff. Well you're in You're invited to the

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Speaker 1: garden party. That's what this is real human psychology. This

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Speaker 1: is why these idiots, this is why you have like

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Speaker 1: Alex Soros running around, the ultimate NEPO baby, who is

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Speaker 1: just like a piral maniac, lighting civilization on fire everywhere

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Speaker 2: This is maybe where I'm a little bit uh, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, there's something in my personal like I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I genuinely don't care. I'm gonna tell you exactly what

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Speaker 2: I play.

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Speaker 1: You are. You are an unusual duck. Just as you know,

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Speaker 1: not everyone is anyone is as throw down as you are.

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Speaker 1: But I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want people to be dishonest and not say

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Speaker 2: what they really think. If you think that I'm a moron,

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Speaker 2: go ahead and let me have it. But it doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that I can't have a beer with you. And

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Speaker 2: the idea that I can't sit on some board, thank you.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I want to be doing is sitting

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Speaker 2: on a board with awful people. I don't like meetings periods,

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Speaker 2: So don't even get me started on having to go

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Speaker 2: to meetings for things that I that I wouldn't even

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Speaker 2: that there was more steel spine. Because to your point,

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Speaker 2: if you are relocating across the whole country because the

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Speaker 2: state has made awful decisions, I think you have an

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Speaker 2: obligation to tee off on the state government that you

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Speaker 2: done such an awful job and there are gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of job creators and a lot of wealth

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Speaker 2: that follows me, and actually tell the story and don't

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Speaker 2: try to hide when you just relocate to Florida.

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Speaker 1: Texas or Tennessee. I gotta tell you, And there was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of this even when I moved down here.

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Speaker 1: People in Florida who are like, you know, don't bring

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Speaker 1: those New York you know, don't bring those New York voting.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Boss. But we've

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Speaker 4: Come here to Florida and they will vote.

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Speaker 3: The way they voted in New York and California, only for.

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Speaker 1: We all know it, but it's still true. Kathleen. I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling you the data doesn't support this. The data

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Speaker 2: This is the number one I'm a native born and

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Speaker 1: You're getting libs. You're getting some libs from California. I

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Speaker 2: But it's seventy five, twenty five or seventy thirty in

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Speaker 2: to prize Picks right now in all fifty states. Even

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Speaker 2: right now. I have been checking scores during full disclosure,

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Speaker 1: In the SEC tournament. You can play.

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Speaker 2: You get fifty dollars deposited in your account when you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: of culture movies, in particular, Daniel roebuck new film called

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Speaker 2: The Hell Mary follows a disillusioned man unexpectedly rediscovers purpose, family,

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Speaker 2: also a comedy. Daniel, what was it like playing a

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Speaker 1: That terrible Daniel emmaculated. We want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Hail Mary, but I have to ask you because I'm

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Speaker 6: be on, or The Great Escape or Jaws, and you

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Speaker 6: could watch it at any point in the story because

437
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Speaker 6: you love the story. Uh, and you knew the story

438
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 6: and you it was like familiar to saying. I am

439
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Speaker 6: honored that The Fugitive is one of those movies, and

440
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 6: I agree it is. It's kind of a timeless, really great,

441
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Speaker 6: fast paced movie.

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Speaker 1: Story is a movie that when my wife, when my

443
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Speaker 1: wife Daniel said she hadn't seen it, I was like,

444
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Speaker 1: top of the list. We're watching The Fugitive next time

445
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Speaker 1: we have a you know, husband wife movie night when

446
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Speaker 1: the baby's asleep early enough. And she thought it was

447
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: excellent too. Of course. I mean, I think it's for

448
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: a thriller, it's a ten out of ten. It's totally

449
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Speaker 1: what you said, totally watchable at any point. But that

450
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Speaker 1: is fascinating to me that because I've heard the other thing.

451
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Speaker 1: I've heard actors making a movie, like apparently the guys

452
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Speaker 1: when they were doing Ghostbusters, for example, I know, a

453
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Speaker 1: very different movie, but as soon as they wrapped, they

454
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Speaker 1: were like, this is gonna be amazing, like they kind

455
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Speaker 1: of knew. And it's amazing to hear that you can't

456
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Speaker 1: even note the fugitive until maybe you got really close

457
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Speaker 1: to the end was going to be such a great film.

458
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Speaker 1: It tells you a lot about how the movie process goes.

459
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Speaker 4: Well, the zeitgeist.

460
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Speaker 6: Like those guys in Ghostbusters say they were more of

461
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 6: a coke pie of unit. They had been working together

462
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 6: over time because of Caddyshack and everything else, and they knew,

463
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: you know, they knew what it was. Can I know

464
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Speaker 6: we should be plugging?

465
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Speaker 4: Uh? And you guys are so you you've blessed me

466
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Speaker 4: so much.

467
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Speaker 1: Tell us about that, tell us about your.

468
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Speaker 6: But no, no, no, I want to tell you. I'm

469
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Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna divert again. You know what I just

470
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Speaker 6: want for two nights in a row.

471
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Speaker 4: The Lonesome Dove. Have you guys all that?

472
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Speaker 6: Dude, it's my boy, Tommy Lee Jones, my god Robert

473
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Speaker 6: duval of course, because mister Duvall passed what what uh

474
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 6: eight hours of brilliant perfection? Uh, brilliant perfection. It's on

475
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Speaker 6: Amazon Prime. Although I had to I watched the first

476
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Speaker 6: four hours on my old DVD. I thought, it's they've

477
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 6: got to have restored this. I'm sure it looks better anyw.

478
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not talking about great movies. The Hail Mary.

479
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: That's the movie that's out now, that's the movie that's

480
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Speaker 1: doing great numbers. Tell us about it.

481
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Speaker 6: Well, so the Hail Mary was born I was I

482
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 6: have I got you know, I have great parents, but

483
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 6: the nuns are nuns. The sisters of Saint Joseph of Philadelphia,

484
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 6: who had me for twelve years.

485
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: Of Catholic school, really did have an impact on guiding my.

486
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Speaker 6: Moral and ethical compass and my spiritual compass obviously, and

487
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Speaker 6: I just kind of wanted to say thank you to

488
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Speaker 6: them in some way.

489
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Speaker 4: And this movie was born out of that.

490
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Speaker 6: You know, the Hail Mary of the title isn't about

491
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Speaker 6: the last play of the game. But the last play

492
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 6: of the game is is quite great. But the Hail

493
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Speaker 6: Mary of the title is the guy I play and

494
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Speaker 6: I'm working opposite an amazing actress named Marcia Dtline who

495
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 6: has started a couple of my movies. She's spectacular as

496
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Speaker 6: Sister Kathleen, who is named after a nun who taught

497
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Speaker 6: me in first grade who changed my life.

498
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. By the way, everybody go see this movie.

499
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: I want to go back to your history because the

500
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Fugitive is great. But we're talking to Daniel Roebuck. The

501
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: movie is the hil Mary. You also were in two

502
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Speaker 2: television shows that I really loved, Lost and The Man

503
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Speaker 2: in the High Castle. What is the difference in your

504
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: experience between being on a movie and being on a

505
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: highly successful television show as an actor? What is the

506
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: experience like, how is it different for those two Well.

507
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Speaker 6: You know what's great about it is you get the

508
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: script every week, and you don't you don't know where

509
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 6: you'll be in the story. In a movie, You've got,

510
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 6: you know, one hundred and five page script, and you

511
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 6: know exactly where you are in a TV show. And

512
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 6: now there was because those shows were sequential in how

513
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 6: it was all one story. I also did Matt Locke

514
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 6: for three years, in which every week was a different

515
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: story and different people.

516
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Speaker 4: I love them both.

517
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 6: The blessing God's given me, you guys, is that like

518
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 6: from River's Edge to The Fugitive, to the Late Shift,

519
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 6: to Lost, to the Man of the High Castle and

520
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 6: now even Terrifier, I have had the ability to kind

521
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 6: of land into that story that everyone's talking about in

522
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 6: a moment of time, which is, you know, hard to

523
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 6: do for an actor to land in any story consistently.

524
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, they're different.

525
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Speaker 6: And the other thing is it's a different director almost

526
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 6: every week or as you know, they rotate five through

527
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 6: but you get a different director and it's fun.

528
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: And Lost.

529
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 6: By the way, Loss was one of those shows where

530
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 6: sometimes we will shoot two episodes on the same day,

531
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 6: so there was you'd say, what's going on in this one?

532
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: What did I just come from in that one? You know?

533
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 6: But the experience is, look, it's all great.

534
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 4: I'm a kid. I'm sixty three.

535
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 6: When Star Wars came out, I was thirteen, and I

536
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 6: ended up in Star Wars.

537
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: I've got a great character. I play in these.

538
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: Video games and worked with Arison Ford and when I

539
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 6: was twelve, I was a vampire clown in a circus

540
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: and I ended up becoming Grandpa Munster.

541
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Speaker 4: A funny vampire.

542
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 6: So I have been consistently blessed, and all of it

543
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 6: has led me to this moment in time where I

544
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 6: make these faith based movies because you guys, look, we

545
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 6: see the world in a similar way, because I you know,

546
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 6: I pay attention to you. We're we're Our culture is

547
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 6: is fast flipping down into a vast nothingness because everything

548
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 6: given us they call it entertainment.

549
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: It's just like they call it news. It's all the

550
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: same with a dip with one point of view.

551
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 6: So how could it be entertaining if you know how

552
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 6: it's going to end, Who's going to be in it?

553
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: All that other stuff we're talking about.

554
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Daniel Roebuck, I want to give you an opportunity to

555
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: speak out on this too as we finish the interview.

556
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: I want everybody to go see the Hell Mary Daniel

557
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Roebucks book, Daniel Robooks movie. So I told Buck I did.

558
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: I've done daily television a ton in LA sports based

559
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: and the amount of time that guys who work on

560
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: those shows build sets, carry the cameras around during breaks

561
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: will come up and give me a fist pound and say, dude,

562
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: you're saying everything that I wish I could say, I

563
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: think a lot of people listening to us have this

564
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: idea that Hollywood is a monolith and that everybody hates

565
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: what many of the people listening to this right now

566
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: would believe. I found that not to be true, particularly

567
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: the number of guys and gals who work and do

568
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: the actual grunt work of making movies and television. I

569
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: bet you have two Maybe you could tell people out

570
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: there don't always paint with a huge broad brush. And

571
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: when it comes to the people who make many of

572
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: these movies and actually do the physical jobs.

573
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the crew, you are, like, You're right, The crew.

574
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 6: Is generally thinking more in the spectrum that I think

575
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Speaker 6: we think.

576
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: But the people running it, you know, are not.

577
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Speaker 6: You know, they make a lot of movies about how

578
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 6: horrible the blacklist is. But believe me, if they you know,

579
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 6: they wouldn't blacklist you in a second. I try to

580
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 6: stay and I'll be honest with you. This is the

581
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 6: maybe the most that I've leaned, even in the conversation,

582
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: because I'm I don't really give a flying egg what

583
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 6: Robert de Niro thinks about anything, let alone politics, you know, being.

584
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: You know, Billy.

585
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 6: Ellish, All these people one after another, they're millionaires who

586
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 6: have no sense of the common life that common man lived.

587
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: But you're talking about the hard working crew. That's the

588
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 6: common man. By the way, that's me. I'm a working

589
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 6: class guy. When you're a character actor, you don't I

590
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 6: don't have the I don't have the platform to be

591
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 6: a star.

592
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: My platform is to support the star.

593
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 6: But I made a good living standing next to Andy

594
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 6: Griffith and Kathy Bates and you know, Don Johnson, and

595
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 6: they put the new name into Aren't the Clown?

596
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? But I think you know,

597
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 4: people going.

598
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: To see like our movie The Hail Mary, It's it's

599
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: on Angel Studios now.

600
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: We just premiered there.

601
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: It'll be running on if you can't find it in

602
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: the theater now soon it'll be on Amazon, Prime, Apple.

603
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: TV, all those.

604
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 6: But look, the only way we can get Hollywood to

605
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 6: change is we can We got to keep making these

606
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 6: smaller movies. We got to show them that they're success

607
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 6: in it. Yeah, get people into the movies. The only

608
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 6: way you're going to change it is if someone sees

609
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: that hu I can maybe make money from that. I

610
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: make the movies through like The Hail Mary's made through

611
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: a not for profit called a Channel of Peace.

612
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: People could go to a Channel of Peace dot org.

613
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Speaker 6: We literally make the movies. I don't get paid to act, direct,

614
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 6: right produce.

615
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: Up to this point, I haven't. I don't know that

616
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: I can hold on to that forever.

617
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: But this movie, The Hail Mary, is my gift and

618
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: the gift of my wife and my daughter, my family,

619
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 6: all who worked on it. It's our gift and we

620
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: hope people will take a moment to go see it.

621
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Speaker 2: Awesome. The movie is The Hail Mary, Daniel Robuck. We

622
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: appreciate the time and good luck with the movie going forward.

623
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Speaker 4: Hey, keep doing the good work you guys are doing.

624
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: We're blessed to have you on the airwaves. Thank you.

625
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Speaker 1: Those libs, those libs are hinky, sir. We're going to

626
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: keep them on the.

627
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: It's all hinky. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Closing up shop on Clay and Buck before we head

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