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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, if there's a military strike, and I'll

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Speaker 1: circle that word if is it going to be a

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Speaker 1: strategic pinpoint or is it going to be like annihilation

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Speaker 1: of Iran? I think, George President Trump would first do

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Speaker 1: a very limited strike. I mean, there's clearly targets that

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Speaker 1: can be hit that are military or related to the

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Speaker 1: uranium production. The problem is many of these targets are

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Speaker 1: embedded by Iran in civilian settings, including Tehran the capital,

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Speaker 1: so there will be casualties. There will be some casualties.

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Speaker 1: The last strike that was called off by President Trump

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Speaker 1: after the drone was shot down by Iran, was going

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Speaker 1: to be estimated to kill some one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: five people, and President Trump in the last minute decided

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Speaker 1: that was disproportionate. He didn't want civilian casualties when all

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Speaker 1: Iran had done was shoot down a drone. Though people

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Speaker 1: were killed in the drone attack. I think President Trump

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Speaker 1: is going to be very, very cautious because I'm convinced

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Speaker 1: he does not want to go into a war, especially

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Speaker 1: with Iran, knowing how quickly it can escalate and I'm

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Speaker 1: in favor of that kind of caution. George. I've been

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Speaker 1: on your show now going back really the two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four, two thousand and five, and I've always said

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Speaker 1: the war in the Middle East is not the solution,

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Speaker 1: it's part of the problem. We really don't solve problems

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Speaker 1: by going to war in the Middle East. We just

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Speaker 1: create endless wars and perpetuate problems, create new problems. And

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Speaker 1: I'm pleased to see us, the United States stay on

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Speaker 1: the sanctions issue, economic pressure on Iran. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the best chance of success. If there is war in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. How does that affect Americans here at home?

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Speaker 1: What happens to oil? Of course, you know, we as

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Speaker 1: a nation were the world's largest producer of oil right now.

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Speaker 1: Would that affect us? What happens here? Jerry Well, I think,

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Speaker 1: first of all, George, we would see we would see

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Speaker 1: oil spike if there's a war in the Middle East,

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Speaker 1: because it's still a large proportion of the oil for

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Speaker 1: the world is coming out of the Middle East, and

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Speaker 1: the Straits of Hormuz have something like twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: the world's oil passing through it daily. That's part of

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Speaker 1: that's the narrowest part of the Persian Gulf by Alman

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Speaker 1: and the United Arab Emirates and Iran. That's the narrowest part,

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Speaker 1: and all would spike in price. Now, oil has not

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Speaker 1: yet really spiked in price the United States and George,

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Speaker 1: we've had shows on this going back that long when

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Speaker 1: I was arguing that oil is abiotic and plentiful. I

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Speaker 1: remember more than ten years ago on your show arguing

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Speaker 1: that we would be the leader in oil production once

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Speaker 1: we got into the hydraulic drilling and the other techniques

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Speaker 1: we're using now shale oil. The United States really has

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Speaker 1: the capacity to produce a lot more oil. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think that the oil issue is really as important

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Speaker 1: at the moment with Iran as I think the potential

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Speaker 1: of an escalating conflict that has the unlimited potential to

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Speaker 1: expand into a regional and global war, and that's what

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Speaker 1: really worries me. I think we can handle the spike

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Speaker 1: up to could go up to double to about one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five dollars a barrel if there is

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Speaker 1: any outbreak of violence in the Middle East with Iran.

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Speaker 1: Jerry how in the world, did we lose a great

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Speaker 1: friendship with Iran when the Shower was there? And please

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Speaker 1: keep in mind, world, he was not a boy scout.

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Speaker 1: He was not a good guy, and that's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why the Iranian Revolution tossed him out. But

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Speaker 1: he was a friend of the United States. How did

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Speaker 1: we lose that friendship with Iran where we were selling

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Speaker 1: them fighter jets and everything else to where we are today?

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Speaker 1: What the heck happened? Well, George, it's complex. The certainly

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy Carter's administration. When the hostage crisis occurred in

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Speaker 1: Iotola Komani returned to Iran for a Iranian Revolution that

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Speaker 1: was really the Religious Revolution nineteen seventy nine that changed

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Speaker 1: Iran into being this radical Islamic country. Iran previously under

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Speaker 1: the Shaw had been very oriented to the West. The

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Speaker 1: Iranian people have been modernizing. The Western influences were very extensive.

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Speaker 1: But the history of the United States in Iran is complex.

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Speaker 1: Going back to nineteen fifty three, within CIA overthrew an

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Speaker 1: Iranian politics, which remained a kind of destabilizing force, and

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Speaker 1: one that's never been forgotten by the Iranian people. We

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Speaker 1: did interfere in Iran's politics in a major way in

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Speaker 1: that the nineteen fifty three and it's remembered. I think

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Speaker 1: the Iranian people today would like to eliminate these religious

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Speaker 1: mullahs who are ruling the country because they're very brutal

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Speaker 1: on the people of Iran, and the people of Iran

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Speaker 1: historically are Persian and the religion with Zoroastrianism going back centuries.

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Speaker 1: The idea of Islam coming into Iran is really a

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Speaker 1: the other problems with Iran is they are, without question

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Speaker 1: financing some of these terror groups and other groups involved

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Speaker 1: like Kamas and Hezbollah and god knows who else. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's really one of the major problems. George, and I

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Speaker 1: think one of the objections that the Trump administration had

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Speaker 1: to the agreement that was done by Barack Obama. And

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Speaker 1: you recall we shipped them airplanes full of cash, cargo planes.

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Speaker 1: We said, with bundles billets. You know, there's big both

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Speaker 1: billets of cash, billions of dollars in cash to Iran.

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Speaker 1: I still don't know why we sent Iran cash. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, no, I mean it was ridiculous

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Speaker 1: to send them cash, and I think the American military

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Speaker 1: delivering that cash wondered what was going on. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's cash is you know, suspect in the world politics

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Speaker 1: as being for terrorism or for an illicit purposes, or

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Speaker 1: drug money or something like that, exactly money laundering. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't ship around as a government billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: did they get the cash in the first place? Was

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Speaker 1: this from that black budget we keep Harry about. Well, George,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the cash came from. I wondered

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Speaker 1: that myself. I mean, it's never really been fully explained,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have an accounting of how much cash

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Speaker 1: the the Obama administration sent to Iran. How do we

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Speaker 1: even find out, Jerry, how do we even find out

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Speaker 1: that we did this? Well, the military on these conggo

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Speaker 1: planes took pictures of the cash and put it on

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Speaker 1: the What are we doing shipping all this cash? I

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Speaker 1: mean they took pictures of these, you know, shipping billets

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Speaker 1: freshly printed cash. And the military said, what are we

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Speaker 1: doing this for? At they rate the money ended up

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Speaker 1: into large extent funding from Iran. Terrorism is Hamas in

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Speaker 1: has been for decades the leading sponsor of terrorism worldwide.

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Speaker 1: And we've identified Iran irresponsoring country by the State Department

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Speaker 1: now going on to decades. And didn't any congressional committees

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Speaker 1: I don't think it really got the cash sent to

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Speaker 1: Iran really did not get that much of an investigation

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Speaker 1: because it didn't. I haven't heard much. No, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: John Kerry was the one who negotiated a Secretary of State,

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Speaker 1: this agreement with Iran, and it was very much viewed,

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Speaker 1: Is really appeasement of Iran, paying Iran off not to

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Speaker 1: develop nuclear weapons. But the agreement said in ten years,

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Speaker 1: Iran was going to be free to develop nuclear energy

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Speaker 1: to a weapon's grade. And Iran has started now to

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Speaker 1: Obama on twenty fifteen. They've broken those limits, which is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons President Trump has accused Ran of

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Speaker 1: violating disagreement. But of course we've pulled out of that agreement.

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Speaker 1: We said we're not going to respect that agreement any longer.

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Speaker 1: So Iran is right now under severe sanctions and the

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Speaker 1: current pressure that we're seeing with Iran, all this trouble

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Speaker 1: attacking oil shipping in the Gulf, the problems with the

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Speaker 1: to let the world know that they're suffering under this

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Speaker 1: economic pressure of the sanctions imposed by President Trump. You know,

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Speaker 1: as we protected Kuwait when the Iraqis went in there

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Speaker 1: are bandoning our nuke program. We want an agreement, trade

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Speaker 1: agreement with you. We want a protection agreement with you

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Speaker 1: that you'll step in and help us if anybody attacks us,

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Speaker 1: and we want to be friends. Why can't they do

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Speaker 1: something like that. Well, I think the critical issue with

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Speaker 1: And that's that zealot nature of Aetola Komani's revolution in

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Speaker 1: And Iran would prosper if this radical religion were not

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Speaker 1: of all the legitimate force. The people in Iran are

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Speaker 1: Iran to protest. Yeah, it sued us and in terms

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Speaker 1: of a timetable here, Jerry, what is your crystal ball

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Speaker 1: show you? Well, I think, George, we're in a very

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Speaker 1: critical period right now with Iran. In the next two

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Speaker 1: to three months. Every day has the potential to be

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Speaker 1: another incident, another drone shot down, another tanker, the Iran attacks,

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Speaker 1: another shooting incident, and if Americans are killed in one

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Speaker 1: of these shooting incidents, President Trump is going to be

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Speaker 1: pressed to retaliate. I cannot allow American lives to be

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Speaker 1: incidents that caused us such a shock. What I'm always

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Speaker 1: Tonkan golf and the false flag. Well, that's possible, and

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Speaker 1: it's possible, and I think the President Trump is really

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Speaker 1: to date exercising a kind of restraint which I've not

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Speaker 1: too often American presidents have used these incidents as a

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Speaker 1: or fifteen years and the war. That's the problem we've

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Speaker 1: you know, the Syrian issue. All the wars tend to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see us get into another war.

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Speaker 1: But I'm very, very worried George when he asked, what

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Speaker 1: the short fuse is the next two to three months,

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Speaker 1: and we could easily be in an incident in with Iran.

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Speaker 1: There would cause is shooting war to occur. And like

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Speaker 1: you say, the so called and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: be funny here, the trump card is Russia, Yes, because

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Speaker 1: Russia is in the background right now. Iran is working

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Speaker 1: out a summit with Turkey and Russia to try to

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Speaker 1: impact of the sanctions. What we're trying to do with

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Speaker 1: Iran is cut off their oil being exported, and we're

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Speaker 1: not going to stop. But I think the major issue

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Speaker 1: Iran could easily develop some new economic assistance for Iran,

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Speaker 1: which would perpetuate the crisis well. And this is so ironic.

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Speaker 1: Turkey was one of the reasons the Russians and sixty

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Speaker 1: two started to move missiles into Cuba because we had

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Speaker 1: with Turkey is strained more than ever right Georgia. In fact,

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Speaker 1: part of the Cuban missile crisis that was kept secret

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Speaker 1: from Turkey from Turkey from Turkey. So Russia first removed

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Speaker 1: at one point, going back to the sixties, we had

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Speaker 1: is Aratagon has really been radicalizing Turkey. Turkey used to

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Speaker 1: be a secular country with Islam. They were the Caliphate.

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Speaker 1: The Ottoman Empire going back a hundred years or more

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Speaker 1: has really radicalized Islam, increasingly moving towards a more and

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Speaker 1: more radical form of Islam. And of course Russia has

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Speaker 1: a lot of Islamic population in various countries, and including

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Speaker 1: and all these other countries have very substantial Muslim populations.

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Speaker 1: And in Chechnia, Russia has experienced some very severe Islamic terrorism.

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Speaker 1: So Russia is very sensitive to the Islamic issue and

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Speaker 1: has always been aligned with Ayatollah Komani and with the

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Speaker 1: alliance between Russia and Iran, which is counterbalancing the United

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