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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode one

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Speaker 1: of Jose Days. Like guys to production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. It's Monday, July one. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien a K. I got my vaccination last week,

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Speaker 1: just like we always talked about. You were so excited

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Speaker 1: for me to finally get up about the house. But

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Speaker 1: today I checked on the case counts crying because they

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Speaker 1: keep going up. And I know we weren't perfect, but

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Speaker 1: I told you a d mask for no one, and

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine how you can be so okay

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Speaker 1: less mento queueing on. Yes, you lied when you told

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Speaker 1: me that you got your back scene, but you picked

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Speaker 1: up COVID now, I said, alone and just tweet. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's courtesy of just listening at c k UH and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by today's extra very special

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Speaker 1: guest co host, the brilliant, the talented Joel Mo. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I felt bad because I too hungover to create

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Speaker 1: a song this morning, but that song was so fucking

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Speaker 1: brilliant that we didn't need another one. Like yeah, and

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Speaker 1: and the last time I was on here, I also

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Speaker 1: didn't live Rodrigo Pie, So it was just it just

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Speaker 1: felt right. It was spiritual, it was good. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's doing the work both on this show for vaccination

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Speaker 1: purposes and at the White House, in the actually White House,

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Speaker 1: Chanel no Less get it. Yeah. I think I feel

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Speaker 1: like if she knew that I was going to do

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Speaker 1: that a k, she might not have even needed to

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Speaker 1: go to the White House. Joel, We are thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by a very funny

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Speaker 1: comedian who's been featured on the Today Show Cosmo. I

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Speaker 1: was named by Refinery twenty nine is one of fifty

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Speaker 1: female comedians you need to know. She also happens to

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Speaker 1: be a board certified physician. Please welcome pri uncle Wally.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Thank you so much. I'm so stoked to

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Speaker 1: be here. We're excited to have you. Yeah. So, I

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Speaker 1: have to assume that being a physician has been difficult

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Speaker 1: over these past couple of years. I mean, that's one

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Speaker 1: way to put it. I remember when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: my dad was like, if you become a physician, like

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Speaker 1: you're you're always gonna have job security, Like you'll never

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Speaker 1: have to worry about having a job, and then when

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Speaker 1: the pandemic hit, I was like, this wasn't exactly what

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Speaker 1: I had in mind. Right, You weren't like, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: wasn't chomping at the bid. But I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to say. I mean, people need help. There's lots of

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Speaker 1: people that don't get access to really good healthcare. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying, you know, one doctor can

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Speaker 1: You know, people need and don't want help. Apparently is

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Speaker 1: the is the new trend in America. Yeah, keep your

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Speaker 1: vaccine out of my arm. Bill Gates. Alright, well, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in

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Speaker 1: a moment. First, we canna tell our listeners a couple

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Speaker 1: of things we're talking about. We are, of course going

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Speaker 1: to talk about COVID nineteen back in l A County

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Speaker 1: and especially in Tokyo, Um not great. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: what's being termed woo and on, which is the q

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Speaker 1: and on invasion into the wellness world, particularly in out

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Speaker 1: in California, but it's also called pastel. Q and on

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Speaker 1: making it pretty and part of that whole movement, that

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Speaker 1: whole world. Joel is going to finally say enough is

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Speaker 1: enough with the marvel slander, the hard facts about Loki.

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Speaker 1: I wish Whiles were here so I could tell him

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Speaker 1: to his face, but he's gonna I'm gonna send him

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Speaker 1: this immediately afterwards, like, yeah, we have words to exchange.

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Speaker 1: Did he even watch it or what was I forget

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Speaker 1: what he even Did he have like a real spicy

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Speaker 1: take on Loki. Yeah, he was basically just like dismissing

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Speaker 1: full and see you and I've been listening right right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not interested. No, no, wrong, wrong decisions,

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Speaker 1: incorrect sir. We're gonna talk about Texas rebooting Trump's border wall.

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Speaker 1: And we will talk about Luca, which was a massive

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that plenty more. But first, Prinka,

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Speaker 1: we like to ask our guests, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history. Yeah, so I had to look this up,

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Speaker 1: and it was why is caviar so expensive? Why? Why

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Speaker 1: under that then was best outdoor lunch spots near me,

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Speaker 1: because you gotta eat outdoor. When you're eating your caviar,

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Speaker 1: you gotta flux on the on the people. Full disclosure,

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Speaker 1: have a caviar connect. I'll hook you up with all

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Speaker 1: of what. Let's get out of here. No, I'm just choking.

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Speaker 1: black market caviar. Maybe, but maybe I'm migerating the black

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Speaker 1: lots of omegas and all this stuff. But but that

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Speaker 1: hell no, this bitch didn't say that. So I went

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Speaker 1: I think that's crazy. I think that's totally nuts. Now

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Speaker 1: Like I agree with you because at one point Targets

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Speaker 1: not cut off. Yeah. Also, isn't it like targets shop

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Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a it's a like muted

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Speaker 1: for what is something you think is underrated. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think meditation is really underrated because it's

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Speaker 1: our psyches co on. Yeah, I mean this kind of

427
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: yoga teacher leader in southern California was talking about how she,

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Speaker 1: like mid pandemic had like posted on social media and

429
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: was like, look, I'm seeing a lot of these like

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Speaker 1: dangerous q and on ideas popping up and like kind

431
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: of just laid out why they were bullshit, and she

432
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: saw like in the comments section a lot of like

433
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Speaker 1: q and On evangelists like just putting their ideas down

434
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Speaker 1: there being like actually, like when you look at it

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Speaker 1: this way, but like they used the language of the

436
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: ways that people argue online. But it's you know, it's

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00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: just it really is like metastasizing and like, uh, evolving

438
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: into a more effective weapon of disinformation. Yeah, And I

439
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: mean it's born of a form of privilege, like the

440
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: ability to be civically disengaged from your local government because

441
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: you don't think you need to be and then like

442
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: everything is just you and your version of the world.

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00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: And interesting is watching these people like have to collide

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Speaker 1: with the rest of the world every so often, did

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Speaker 1: you guys see there's a video floating around I think yesterday,

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Speaker 1: of a woman being hauled off of a Royal Cribby

447
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: and cruise. She was determined to make viewers believe that

448
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: real Cribbian faked her COVID results, which that she was

449
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: positive for COVID and she's like, I've already had COVID

450
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, man, he can definitely get COVID again.

451
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: She was like, they're trying to make me get vaccinated.

452
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything but get off of

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Speaker 1: our ship. You can't be anymore. And it was like

454
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: it's so dramatic. She's like screaming through the ship and

455
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: they eventually like literally had to force her off and

456
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: put her on a plane, like a medical plane. To

457
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: be thinking back to the States and we're seeing this continuously.

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Speaker 1: People be like, I'm just not going to get back

459
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Speaker 1: to people. That's fine, but you can't come in here now,

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Speaker 1: which I think, on the one hand, is obviously the

461
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: right choice. You can't be spreading this disease. It's literally

462
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Speaker 1: tears people's lungs apart, like it's it's not something you

463
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Speaker 1: can play with. But on the other hand, there's the

464
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Speaker 1: thought of is this going to continue to drive even

465
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Speaker 1: a further wedge between us, you know, like this bar,

466
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: you don't need vaccines, like come in and just free

467
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Speaker 1: spread like they were trying to do early on. They're like, oh,

468
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Speaker 1: well do like the chicken pox parties, Like just come

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00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: in here and catch it and it'll be fine. What's

470
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: crazy about this story is that people were still willing

471
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Speaker 1: to get on cruises that like, how are people doing

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00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: cruises after like what happened with the Princess cruise that

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Speaker 1: landed in the Bay Area, Like I'm just like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's something I will never do again, like in my life.

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I also wasn't pro cruise before the pandemics start to say,

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Speaker 1: this is just like confirmed my anti cruise sentiments. To

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: go back to Jack's theory of like this space being

478
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Speaker 1: the most individualistic. The only positive thing about a cruise

479
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: is an individual's experience of being on that cruise. Because

480
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: the workers aren't getting paid anything, it's creating horrible results

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Speaker 1: for the environment, and on top of all of that,

482
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: their cesspools for disease. Like it's such a problem. I

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00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: don't understand why people are going on cruises, especially right

484
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: now either, But you put a hole in that cruise

485
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Speaker 1: ship and suddenly they get very collective minded. So I'm

486
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, we started thinking some of these

487
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Speaker 1: cruise ships. That was not the lesson we learned from

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the techanic jet. People did not come together. People together,

489
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: my father. Yeah, bro the movie industry together. As with

490
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: many of the sort of most mind breaking problems that

491
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: we see in the modern world, the engine for a

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00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: lot of this, like I said, is social media Instagram.

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Speaker 1: So like in behind the scenes marketing training, these aspiring

494
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: wellness influencers were told that quote being controversial, taking definitive

495
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: positions that make people love you or hate you is

496
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: a great way to build your brand. Wow gosh that

497
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Speaker 1: is And here I am spending ten minutes humming and

498
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Speaker 1: huwing about what I'm going to say as the most

499
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Speaker 1: overrated things so that I'm not too controversial. And oh man,

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Speaker 1: I should have attended one of those marketing trainings. Yeah,

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00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I want to be I want to be upset at

502
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: the advice, but I see it being true. It's true. Yeah, definitely,

503
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: just be as divisive as possible and then just really

504
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: really sick to your guns and the people who enjoy

505
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: you are really to follow you. And then on top

506
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: of that, people who hate you will follow you so

507
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: that they can make sure that you know you're wrong.

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00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: And that's why people are looking at the end results

509
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: of that number. How many people saw this? But you're

510
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: not really looking at content at all. Yeah, that's kind

511
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: of death stating. Yeah, yeah, great society you have there, America.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some good news. So California approved a

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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollar guaranteed income program. So, as Joe

514
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: Biden is on the international stage saying communism don't work

515
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: and socialism isn't a good alternative, Jack, California is actually

516
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: implementing a very limited but still pretty groundbreaking state funded

517
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: guaranteed income plan. The payments will be focused on qualifying

518
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Speaker 1: pregnant people and young adults who recently left foster care.

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00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: So it's a very limited, like trial run. But the

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00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: point is that these are these people are just being

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Speaker 1: given money to spend it on the things that they

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00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: feel they to spend it on. It's not like means tested,

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00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: it's not like tied to you're going out and getting

524
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: a job and checking out with the pro officer like

525
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck, you know, it's it's just money given

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Speaker 1: to these people. And it passed through the state Congress.

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00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: It was approved thirty six oh and oh and you

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00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: know this article points out that the vote came on

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Speaker 1: a day where the expanded child tax credits started hitting

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Speaker 1: parents around the country, which is kind of another limited

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Speaker 1: form of You know, when you give people money, they

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00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: know what to do with it. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: tell them what to do with it. And giving people

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Speaker 1: money generally makes their lives better and easier and the

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00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: lives of their community better. Yeah, spend money on products

536
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: hopefully made within your community. You're giving that person a

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00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: chance to invest in their passions. You know, it may

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00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: not yet be profitable, but might down the line. Allowed

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00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: them to be not just independent, but creatively fulfilled, which

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00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: makes them happier, which brings down domestic violence. Like there's

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Speaker 1: just it's a sea of change with something so simple

542
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: as a dollar, and it's it's still well to be.

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Speaker 1: The people are like this is awful. You don't want

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00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: them to work. It's like there's never in the history

545
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: of the world been people who are just like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna work, I'm not interested in work. Even even

547
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: people who live lives of luxury and have everything they

548
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: need typically find that they want to do something with

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: the time that they have here. Maybe it's not you know,

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00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: the most giving or the most responsible thing for them

551
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: to be doing, but people like to work, people like

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00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: to create and involve themselves and activities, and so I

553
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: think it's great, and I think it's particularly great that

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00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: we're starting with kids who age out of adoption or

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00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: or foster families. Those kids have such a difficult time

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Speaker 1: getting started, and so to sort of put them first

557
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: and give them opportunities to basically start their lives. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's an incredible you know, first round tests, and I

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00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: hope it goes well because California, you know, in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a huge housing crisis, specifically here in the

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00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Lake County specifically coming off with this pandemic, and on

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00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: top of all of that, you know, we just have

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00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: industries here tend to be less sustainable, particularly to new

564
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: commerce to Los Angeles. You know, like if when I

565
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: was peeing, if I could have had a guaranteed income,

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00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: life changing literally life changing, it would have leached so

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00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: much stress. I could have you know, been involved in

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Speaker 1: the programs that have allowed me to be further in

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Speaker 1: my career. Like there's just so much opportunity and development

570
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: that can happen when you have a little bit of

571
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Speaker 1: money to support you. I think also, you know, this

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: would actually help the health care system because if you

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Speaker 1: have chronic illnesses, stress is only going to make it

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Speaker 1: harder to deal with those illnesses. So stress is actually

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Speaker 1: a risk factor for getting sicker, and so you know,

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00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: more and more people would come in with health issues.

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00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: If you reduce stress, you'd actually save the health care

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: system money in that way too. So yeah, one thing

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00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: that I saw kind of being bandied about as there's

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00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: a slight uptick in minimum wage, and as like some

581
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: of these more you know, socialists leaning slightly programs come out,

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: people are especially on the right, are talking about inflation,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think it's worth I feel like

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00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: people don't talk about inflation because it's usually like a

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00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: thing that the right will blame on any policies they're

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00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: slightly left leaning. I think it's something that everybody should

587
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: be aware of that like the world just in in

588
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: the month of June got five percent more expensive to

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Speaker 1: live in. It's costs five percent more this month than

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00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: it did last month, too, exists as a person in America.

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00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: That's crazy but like how overall uptick in a lot

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: of like staple needs. So the price of gas has

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Speaker 1: gone up, I think like a lot. I think he

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: said like nationally, and cars got really expensive, so used

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: cars got really expensive and they're a big expense, and

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00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: so that like contributed to the uptick. But you know,

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: also like food got more expensive, and like it's just

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Speaker 1: I feel like the default mainstream conversation around this just

599
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: defaults to the right wing talking points like well, this

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Speaker 1: must be because like one company decided to pay more

601
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: minimum wage, and it's actually like, well, how about the

602
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: fact that we are just coming off of a pandemic

603
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: that was like profoundly mismanaged and like put pressure on

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00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: all supply chains and like created a drop and then

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00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: a spike in demand for rs and just like all

606
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: these things that like you could put the point point

607
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: the finger anywhere, but I just feel like it always

608
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: comes back to because it's America. They they're just as

609
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: this inherent like knee jerk anti social safety net bias

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00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: that we always do. It's wild huble to blame that

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00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: on someone raising their minimum wage what and to not

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00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: take a look at like what CEOs of the company

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Speaker 1: are making and just completely dismiss the idea that that

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00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe if those guys made a little less and pay

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00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: their employees a little bit more, but this would not

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Speaker 1: there would be a zero some impact overall, Like it's

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Speaker 1: this is not it's I don't know, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: pay people what they're worth. It's so expensive to just

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Speaker 1: be alive. It's so much money just to be alive.

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00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: And then to constantly deny workers that on very arbitrary

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Speaker 1: things like oh well that job isn't complicated enough for

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Speaker 1: you to make enough money to live. Shame on you,

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Speaker 1: Like wild mm hmmm, alright, let's take one more break

624
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: and we will be right back, and we're back, and

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00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, just something we're keeping our eye on obviously,

626
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: and you know, sending out thoughts to the people of

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00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: Western Europe right now, there's just pretty mind breaking pictures

628
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: coming out of just these old like European villages that

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Speaker 1: have been there for hundreds of years, that are just

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Speaker 1: like entire chunks of them are being washed away by

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Speaker 1: this unprecedented flooding. This is one of the times where

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Speaker 1: meteorologists are just like, oh, yeah, no, it's climate change,

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Speaker 1: Like it's for for sure, climate change because and this

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Speaker 1: this is also an example of just one of those

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Speaker 1: like small things that changes in one part of the

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Speaker 1: world and and has a devastating impact elsewhere. Apparently because

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00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: of the jet stream, like a change in temperature in

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Speaker 1: the ocean basically has caused a bunch of storms inland

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Speaker 1: in Western Europe that would normally happen out over the ocean,

640
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: and that's what is causing just entire chunks of Western

641
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Europe to just be washed away, and you know, hundreds

642
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: of people to die and probably eventually thousands. So it's

643
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: probably something we're gonna be seeing more and more of, unfortunately,

644
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: but we we will see how they react to this

645
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: in Europe. I think there's an election coming up in

646
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Germany where a lot of this is happening, and people

647
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: are pointing out that, like climate hasn't even been a

648
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: subject that people talked about in this election, so maybe

649
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: that will change. All right, let's talk about some bullshit,

650
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: and not in a disparaging term, Joel. I know you

651
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: are here to send the Marvel cinematic universe, because you know,

652
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: we we were a little bit dismissive, so a little

653
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: bit a little I listening together yesterday's episode, and I

654
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wow, guys, Wow, So first of all,

655
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: none of y'all launched it, so why talk about it?

656
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: But too, I know you think Moki has like at

657
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: first of all, I just wanted to talk abat before

658
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: we begin in here. Uh, that's not in defense of

659
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: the Disney Corporation at all. It's Disney. They're massive, they

660
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: do what they do. I have no control over that,

661
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: and I understand why some people have issues with Disney.

662
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. It's not what we're

663
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: talking about here, talking very specifically about my love for

664
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: comic books and the incredible range of what has happened

665
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: from picking up like monthly comic book series and following

666
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: them for literally years. It's comics will sometimes number in

667
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: these seven hundreds, so that means your granddaddy could be

668
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: reading the same storyline that you are currently picking up on.

669
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: I think the way comic books have formed as an

670
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: American art form is up there with jazz as far

671
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: as being like this is strictly American and it's beautiful.

672
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: It says a lot about who we are as a community,

673
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: both the good and the bad, and these heroes we've created.

674
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: Are literally our Greek gods are ancient myths come to

675
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: life and and absolutely set a tone for what again

676
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: we as a society, maybe not as individuals vi as

677
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: the ideal human. And again there's a lot to critique

678
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: in there. What does that mean when all of our humans,

679
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: like all of our aspirations are hyperfit fish first discussions

680
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: later kind of individuals. And you can absolutely break all

681
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: of that down. But there's something just from an artistic

682
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: standpoint that is absolutely mind boggling of how they took

683
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: what was, you know, a thirty page book and took it,

684
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, a thirty page book monthly and brought it

685
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: to the screen and do it almost every three to

686
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: six months, and a continued storyline that you can choose

687
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: to be invested it in, but light comic books you

688
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: can also just jump in and enjoy as a singular unit.

689
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: One of the show was like the most watched show

690
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: in America. Statistics aside things are kind of crazy. You

691
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: can look at just an A plus is uh stats

692
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: in all of streaming. They're still pretty low. But they

693
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: just launched last year, so I think that those sort

694
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: of discussions need time to sort of flush out. Netflix

695
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: says like a fifteen year gain on them. But what

696
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: they've done in creating specifically these shows during the pandemic

697
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: and and glimpsing these like side characters, positioning them as

698
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: so like feature characters, broadening their stories gives viewers like

699
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: me who've seen every part of the MTU like this

700
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: rich tome of cinematic glory. And on top of that,

701
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: they're hiring a ton of women to make these shows,

702
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: and not just in four ground roles. You know, they

703
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: brought in Lady Loki for this news series. You know,

704
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Wanda was Got. You know, that's the very first streaming

705
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: show they created and it was a woman, And I

706
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: think that was sort of a rough decision for a

707
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: company that took forever to bring a black widow movie

708
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: to the screen. But they're also doing it as directors,

709
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: show runners, composers, like women are really dominating and actively

710
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: involved in creating this universe. And that to me, as

711
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: a woman who really invested in film and television and creation,

712
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: know who knows and his friends with a lot of

713
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: women either in it or struggling to get in, struggling

714
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: to stay in, it's really really important from a company

715
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: that is absolutely monopolizing this industry. It's really vital that

716
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: while they're in this position, that they're offering roles to

717
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: a lot of different people, you know, because otherwise we're

718
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: just gonna be out of it period. And on top

719
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: of all of that, Lookie is just really good. It's

720
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: just really good. Like take all of the politics and

721
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: and and I don't know, theory and everything like Loki

722
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: and the television show is just solid writing. And on

723
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: top of that, solid performances from actors who've been in

724
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: the game for a very long time. One Masaku, who

725
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: if you watched Lovecraft Country, she was in that. She's

726
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: sort of been everywhere. She's I don't have words to

727
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: describe the talent that this woman brings to the screen,

728
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: but she is a down performer. And watching her throughout

729
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: this series and knowing that she might come back for

730
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: bigger and better things is it's so thrilling. And then

731
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: you get Lookie. It's like an entire series about what

732
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: is it to find self love? And as we talked

733
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: about individualism throughout this entire episode, Lukey is an admitted narcissist.

734
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: This is the essence of the character pre his marvel entrance.

735
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: You know, this is an self obsessed guy who likes

736
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: playing tricks on people, and he's blossomed into this guy

737
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: who's questioning his entire existence and what it's for. They

738
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: get into philosophy in theory of religion, they start questioning,

739
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: you know, who created you? And what does that mean?

740
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: And are you stuck on the path that you know

741
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: someone else is laid for you or can you vir

742
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: off of that? And if you do vir off of that,

743
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: what is that? Like? It is so complex and fun

744
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: and like just everything everything, everything, someone is who's just

745
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: inside of herself, a nerdy comic book kid who would

746
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: rather be reading comics on the floor of her bedroom

747
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: than doing anything else. To see a blossom into this,

748
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: it's just been transformative and I do get you know,

749
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: as I mentioned already, I'm a little bit emotional as

750
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: a human being. You know. Some people are just like, no,

751
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: that's not art and it's not good and oh my god,

752
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: it is Tobey Maguire coming back, so full it listen.

753
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: Maguire is not confirmed. We don't know if he's coming back.

754
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: It's very much a possibility because there are many spider

755
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: men across many different universes and we know that the

756
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: multiverse action is coming, so maybe he's coming, maybe he's not.

757
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: We don't know. But I think it's so much bigger

758
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: than all of that. I think it's it's just an

759
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: entire community of creators has moved into another community and

760
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: succeeded and done it so well and so beautifully. And

761
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: I have to sometimes just stand back away from everything

762
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: and just marvel everything that's across this timeline. That's my field, right, yeah,

763
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I like Marvel. Have not seen

764
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: Loki yet, but planning on doing so. And you're right, Joel, like,

765
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: it's this whole different world that you can enter and

766
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: the lessons that you can learn. I mean when I

767
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: saw wand Division, I was so I was like, oh,

768
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: this is a story about holding your pain, this is

769
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: a story about recovering from grief, and it was so

770
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: it was like I did not expect it to be

771
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: that profound in that aspect, but that, to me, it's like,

772
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: how can you not call this art well? And then

773
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: through the lens of what I've JUMBD is like depression TV,

774
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: which is the shows you like that shows you think

775
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: into when you're like, I don't really want to think

776
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: too much, and I want to know what happens to

777
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: the end, so there's no scary bad surprises. That's what

778
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: this thing come is. And and so took us through

779
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: that lens and and again through the scope of like

780
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: how Americans viewed themselves throughout each decade, and then using

781
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: that as a template for how we evolve through our

782
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Greek like it's so good that, yeah, it is brilliant,

783
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: it's so true. Yeah, I've enjoyed, you know, the m

784
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: CU world and and yeah, no, I'm totally like, yeah,

785
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Joel Preach, you are pre Someone in Variety said, you know,

786
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: sometimes Marvel has a challenge being more than the sum

787
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: of its parts. And by that they mean at the

788
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: end of each Marvel property, whether it's a film or

789
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: television show or whatever, even in the comic books, you

790
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: have to set up for the next thing because it

791
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: is ongoing. The end is not the goal. It's always

792
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: about pushing onto the next storyline. And so to that point, like,

793
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: as much as I love One Division, there's absolutely really

794
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: good critique about the way that show ends, And like

795
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: you basically mind kidnaps people for months at a time,

796
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: and all they did was look at you me and

797
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: she's like, wow, that's really awful and then escaped. Right, Well,

798
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: not a lot for consequences, but again the joint in

799
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: having something that's that ongoing, and it almost almost feels

800
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: like the origins of oral storytelling, right if you look

801
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: at old societies, before we're writing things down, we were

802
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: constantly telling and retelling the stories. And that's all to

803
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: me anyway, that comic book characters have sort of become

804
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: America's oral storytelling, this idea of gonna keep reusing these

805
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: same superheroes to analyze where we are as a culture

806
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: in this moment. And I also know that because these

807
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: stories are constantly evolving, no character fully escapes the flaws

808
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: that occurred in their previous mentioned Right, you can rewrite

809
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: in in a form in a later iteration, you can

810
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: rewrite what has happened. You can, and by rewrite it,

811
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean you can actually give consequences. You can explain

812
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: away things that don't quite make sense. Star Wars did

813
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: this really well with like why were Stormtrooper a shot?

814
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: They have all this armor on and get shot, just

815
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: fall down and it's like it didn't go through, It's

816
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: just a blast pattern on your armor. It's not making

817
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: sense to me, right, So they were like, well, when

818
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the Empire took over the Clones and started kidnapping children

819
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: to become soldiers, you know, they didn't put as much

820
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: money and thought into the armor, and so now they

821
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: just go down. It's just it's cheap because the Empire

822
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: doesn't care about people. They're replaceable. Well, now it all

823
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: makes sense and I lost the old versions and still

824
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: love it. And that's what I love about fandom. Like

825
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: to me, I just I'm so enamored with fandom, groups

826
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: of people coming together to try to tell stories. It

827
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: expands beyond what is cannon and goes into you know,

828
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: fan fiction goes into things that have been retired that

829
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: people individually have not let go and then rebirth. It's

830
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: just and to me, it's the core essence of what

831
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: makes storytelling so good and lovely and fun and full

832
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: of like escape. And as much as I think it's

833
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: important that we be present and active and and try

834
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: to make our world in our neighborhoods better, I also

835
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: understand the absolute essential necessity of escape. And to me,

836
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: Marvel is one of the greatest escapes. Like I love

837
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: sinking away into a good Marvel piece. I love that

838
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: weekly like going into my comic book store and having

839
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: waited four weeks for the new issue to come out.

840
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: I can see a new episode of Loki and be

841
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: like blown away by what all the people have put

842
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: into this show and made. I just think, I just

843
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: think it's really beautiful. I mean he's said that. Myles,

844
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: who I love, was like, no, they just want the

845
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: chore back and makes no sense. Yeah, this is much

846
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: more in keeping with the philosophy of the show than

847
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: our conversation at the end of last week when we're

848
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I haven't seen a dude of you,

849
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: all right, well whatever, yeah, no, everything, Like these characters

850
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: are hugely important archetypes in like probably as important as

851
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: like our presidents. Like everything you need to know about

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Speaker 1: American conservatism you can learn from Batman. Like there's there's

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Speaker 1: a reason we keep returning to the same characters over

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Speaker 1: and over and the people who keep returning to them

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Speaker 1: over and over keep making so much fucking money off

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Speaker 1: of it. Is because they occupy a very central role

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Speaker 1: in like the collective consciousness of of the country. So

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Speaker 1: they're important. It's important to think about them. I do

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Speaker 1: wanna just briefly get to another I think important archetype

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Speaker 1: in the collective unconscious, which is monsters and the monsters

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Speaker 1: that we're into because so Luca, the Pixar movie was

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Speaker 1: seen by the equivalent of a hundred and sixty million

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Speaker 1: dollars worth of box office of eyeballs on Disney Plus.

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Speaker 1: So that's one that will be streaming in the coming

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Speaker 1: months and you know, evaluating how it relates to the zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: But I finally watched the last kind of streaming movie

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Speaker 1: to be watched by that many people, which was Army

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Speaker 1: of the Dead on Netflix, which is a Zack Snyder

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Speaker 1: zombie movie, which is has a lot of like zombie cliche,

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Speaker 1: is a lot of cool zombie deaths, a lot of

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00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: rotting flesh, and then they put it all on the

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Speaker 1: skeleton of a heist movie, which makes it fun. A

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Speaker 1: Vegas heist movie. You know, you it gives you everything

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Speaker 1: you expect like from a Zack Snyder movie, secondhand embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: The movie climaxes with the Cranberry song zombie uh played

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Speaker 1: like Ernest as Buck. But I I think zombie so zombies.

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Speaker 1: We we've talked before. There's a cultural theory that zombies

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Speaker 1: represent like how liberal Americans view Republicans as like this

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Speaker 1: sort of mindless, droning hoard of like crowds that are

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00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: coming for you, and I I think there's some truth

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Speaker 1: to that. I think that this movie kind of makes

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Speaker 1: sense of that. And it also like, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: had the zombie movies in malls which are like sort

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Speaker 1: of the ultimate symbol of or where the ultimate symbol

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Speaker 1: of consumerism, and Vegas is a pretty get symbol of

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00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: consumerism too. Wow. Yeah, but I do feel like zombies

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00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: are going to like now that we've had the January

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Speaker 1: six failed insurrection and like just seeing the violence and

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Speaker 1: havoc that conservative masses can cause. I do feel like

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Speaker 1: we probably have a zombie movies have a bright future

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00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: in in the country. That's so interesting, Jack's I was

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: thinking almost the exact opposite, not because of you know,

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Speaker 1: from a political standpoint, they make it like a really

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Speaker 1: good symbol I mean truly throughout the history of cinema,

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Speaker 1: but because we're straight coming out of the pandemic and

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Speaker 1: I wonder how we're going to want to or if

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Speaker 1: we'll want to explore the spread of disease in that way.

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00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, there if we look at like post nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenties Spanish flu era, all art that comes out after that,

900
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: it's like far away, removed from anything. Don't talk about

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00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: it passed, too many people died, were too scarred. Leave

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Speaker 1: it alone. So I don't know. We we've already seen

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Speaker 1: a couple of people during the pandemic trying to make

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Speaker 1: movies about the pandemic that happenedly gone well, uh, not

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Speaker 1: of time to process what was happening. So but I

906
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Speaker 1: have a feeling that we're going to want to and

907
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: and given the recent success of shows like ted Lasso,

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Speaker 1: really lean hard into like positive, upbeat sort of things.

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Speaker 1: At least my guess of what studios will be wanting

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Speaker 1: to purchase. Maybe on the indie circuit will have a

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00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies era movement of independent people thing no, this

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Speaker 1: is the truth and you need to hear it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And here's great movies, which would be great. I would

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Yeah, how does it feel when you

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Speaker 1: have you when you guys watch shows that reference the pandemic?

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Speaker 1: How does this sit with you? Usually pandering sort of

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Speaker 1: it's how I feel like, I'm like, oh, it's really

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Speaker 1: so sad what we're going through, and it's awful. It's

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Speaker 1: so hard, but like love is there, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be all right. This temporary uh seems to be the

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Speaker 1: same message from everybody, as opposed to sort of how

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Speaker 1: I've experienced pandemic, which was either I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: live alone, but still very isolated from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world, and or like horrified at the lack of

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Speaker 1: control I have with how bad things are being handled

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Speaker 1: around me. You know, you're literally locked into your box

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Speaker 1: watching everyone make horrifying decisions, you know, watching people who

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Speaker 1: are really enjoyed our company, like go to vineyards and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and like, what are you doing? It is June. You

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Speaker 1: should be in the house, for sure. We're still watching groceries.

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Speaker 1: Like this is very scary, please come home. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: definitely don't feel like anyone has had anything artistic or

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Speaker 1: interesting to reveal about what we lift through. The best

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Speaker 1: thing I've read about this pandemic is like a book

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Speaker 1: from the I think is like the fifties Camus. I

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Speaker 1: think it's called The Plague, But I read that in

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Speaker 1: the early days and like that felt like it was

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Speaker 1: very poignant and very Uh. Didn't feel like shitty, like

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Speaker 1: the way that like people trying to talk about this

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Speaker 1: current pandemic feels where it's you know, because it's about

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Speaker 1: a different thing, because it's about a different plague, but

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Speaker 1: it's still like covering a lot of the same stuff

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Speaker 1: Army of the Dead, like even though it had some

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Speaker 1: of those things like one of So there's a camp

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Speaker 1: of people who are basically migrants from like fleeing Vegas,

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Speaker 1: and they're like held and tested with a temperature gun frequently,

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Speaker 1: and like that's a I think a reference to, you know,

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Speaker 1: the temperature guns that we all got familiar with during

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Speaker 1: the pandemic. But it never really like felt like it

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Speaker 1: was overtly like trying to comment on the pandemic in

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Speaker 1: any way, which I think was good. Like we've had

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Speaker 1: zombie movies for long before. And as far as I know,

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Speaker 1: you don't pass COVID nineteen by biting someone on the arm,

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Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't say for sure. Hmm, how

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Speaker 1: about you do you have you like has that bothered

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Speaker 1: you at all? Yeah, it kind of has. I remember

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Speaker 1: I was watching an episode of Grey's Anatomy, and I

958
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Speaker 1: usually full disclosure, I usually do not watch Grey's Anatomy

959
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Speaker 1: because it hits too close to home and I over

960
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: analyze things. But a friend of mine reached out to

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Speaker 1: me it was like, you need to watch this one

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Speaker 1: specific episode from season blah blah blah, like I need

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: and anyways, they it's like, yeah, they they make the episode.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, these are people living in the pandemic

965
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Speaker 1: and da da da da, and I don't know. It

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: was kind of like, come on, like I don't, like

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I want to not I'm watching this because I don't

968
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: want to, like I'm trying to escape, right, So it's

969
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: like you're bringing it back in. It's like, I know,

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Speaker 1: the pandemic has like shown very clearly, like the disparities

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Speaker 1: in our social structures and health care outcomes and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. But yeah, it's just sort of like I

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Speaker 1: could feel my body kind and tightening a little bit

974
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Speaker 1: because I was just it was like, yeah, a reminder

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Speaker 1: of the reality. But I mean, you know, maybe that,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's not the worst thing in the world,

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Speaker 1: that we're being reminded of our reality, but that's not

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Speaker 1: usually why I turn on Netflix, you know, right, Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like the commercials from early in the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: There's like this now more than ever aesthetic that I

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01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: just like can't that's true. I can't help but like

982
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: associate any pandemic based thing with anyways, Yeah, Army of

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Speaker 1: the Dead five stars worth watching. It sounds like low

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Speaker 1: key five stars worth watching, all these things worth watching. Well, Prianka,

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Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you, it's it's been a it's been a blast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you and follow you? And? Yeah? Yeah, so um,

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Speaker 1: I actually I am co host of my own podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's called Hypochondriactor. It's with me and Sean Hayes, and

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Speaker 1: every week we interview a celebrity with a medical illness.

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Speaker 1: So we just interviewed Dex Shepherd for this week, and

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Speaker 1: so you can find me on that. I'm also on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Wallyprianca and Instagram and Facebook and all the

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Speaker 1: all those social media feeds that are making the world

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Speaker 1: a better place. There you go, and is there a

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Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying. Yeah, actually I found this tweet that is

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Speaker 1: from Aimes the Tang and he says, my mom said,

1000
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Speaker 1: we should speak tie in public so we don't get

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Speaker 1: targeted for speaking Mandarin. And I think it's so sweet

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Speaker 1: that she's nice enough to believe that these stupid, fucking

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Speaker 1: racists can differentiate between Asian languages. Idealist Joel, where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: You guys know me. I'm Joel Monique. You can find

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Speaker 1: me all over the internet. Ageal Monique. That's j O

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Speaker 1: E l E m O n I q u E.

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Speaker 1: A tweet I've been enjoying comes from Franklin Leonard. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know him, he started the Blacklist, which is

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Speaker 1: a bunch of screens plays that couldn't be produced. Uh

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01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: he featured them and now every year one of them

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Speaker 1: wins an Academy Award. It's incredible. Uh So his tweet

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Speaker 1: goes like this, surprise, when you asked me for names

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Speaker 1: of black writers to partner with a senior white screenwriter

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Speaker 1: to tell a black story, I'm going to suggest that

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Speaker 1: the white screenwriters step aside and do everything in their

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Speaker 1: power to make sure that the black writer succeeds and

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01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: get so low credit. This is a man walking his

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Speaker 1: walk and talking his talk and actively using his power

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Speaker 1: to put people who are just in franchise, who would

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Speaker 1: often then be asked like, oh, help me with the

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Speaker 1: script and then get no credit. That means your name

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Speaker 1: is not on the awards when they get announced. It

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Speaker 1: means when you go into interview for the next writing job,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna ask you what he did, and basically all

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Speaker 1: you can say is I punched it up, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna consider that not having written the script at all.

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Speaker 1: It is horrible to constantly ask people of color to

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Speaker 1: come in and support your projects because you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you're not being offensive. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Just give them the money and tell them to go

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Speaker 1: write the story. Is that easy. You are probably still

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Speaker 1: going to get a producer credit and still make your money.

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Speaker 1: Everyone could be making money. Don't be greedy, and don't

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Speaker 1: take black people's perspectives just because you know it's popular

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Speaker 1: right now. It's dumb and annoying. The power to Franklin

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Speaker 1: Leonard for for being that person and making the change

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Speaker 1: he wants to see. One of the greats. Former guests

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Speaker 1: on Daily's I guess tweet I've been enjoying at brow

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Speaker 1: tweeting tweeted Bear robbing a bank, stick him up, Teller

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Speaker 1: raised his hands, Bear nervous, how did you get so big? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And then Iris at just Underscore Iris tweeted, I was

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Speaker 1: today years old when I realized rumba is an anagram

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Speaker 1: of a broom and that just just blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. And today with Miles out, super producer

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