WEBVTT - Some Time With... Christine Lakin! (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to How Rude, Tana Ritos. Today's guest

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<v Speaker 1>is a very familiar face. Not only did we all

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<v Speaker 1>grow up as child actors on ABC's iconic TGIF lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just went glamping together a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>as part of a special episode of How Rude. She

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<v Speaker 1>is an actress, a director, and a highly accomplished choreographer,

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<v Speaker 1>but you may best know her as Al Lambert on

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<v Speaker 1>the beloved sitcom Step by Step. Please welcome to the pod, Christine.

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<v Speaker 2>Laken Woo woo he she is hiday By, Hi Brad

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<v Speaker 2>Hi naked Lakey. Welcome back. Sorry, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've ruined your good name with my nickname for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I ever have a good name?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you didn't, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel too bad, okay, And just so you know.

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<v Speaker 3>We jump right into the interview, so uh so welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no yeah, you know, there's no preparation or like

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<v Speaker 3>lead up or like hey, let's let's get in them now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Why why why start now? Why start now?

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<v Speaker 3>Christine needs so good to see you. Last we saw

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<v Speaker 3>you was uh was on our little blamping trip.

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<v Speaker 4>It was yes, out in the wilderness, the hard just

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<v Speaker 4>the wilderness, desertness right.

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<v Speaker 3>With with flowers, right, yeah it was and and uh

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<v Speaker 3>and and branded cornhole.

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<v Speaker 2>Cornhole, branded corn hole. That was fun. You were really

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<v Speaker 2>good at that, Christine. You were rocking your corn hole.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, every you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds inappropriate. Yeah, yeah, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Rocking, rocking the holes. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not good

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<v Speaker 4>at things like that, but every now and then I

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<v Speaker 4>have like one good shot and then I just have

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<v Speaker 4>to stop. And then that's the way.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know, I think it's really you sunk one in.

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<v Speaker 4>Quite well, you sink one and then and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you're like that's it. That's I'm done now bye.

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<v Speaker 4>Right all I needed to do, really, I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>People wanting more.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, That's what I tried to do. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I really had a great time with you guys. And

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<v Speaker 4>we laughed a lot. Oh my god, we always laugh

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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a ridiculous amounty fun together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's always good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are so happy to have you on the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast again. And uh, it's you know, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>how much fun it is to renit, renite renight. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going tonight now, so you reunite.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 3>We go there we go. Are are you okay?

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<v Speaker 4>I well know, I'm trying to deal with my my

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<v Speaker 4>lighting schematics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the glare and helped.

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<v Speaker 4>Back light and there's front light. And I'm not a DP,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm trying to be my own.

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<v Speaker 3>From this is usually just for social media. It's we

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<v Speaker 3>don't post the video anywhere, much to people's dismay, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's because our guests can't figure out how to operate lines.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean that way, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can barely figure it out. So all right, now we're now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just talking about what a great director you are,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I have to take it all back.

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<v Speaker 5>You should now you know what your great director is

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<v Speaker 5>terrible DP. That's that's a different then CO two to

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<v Speaker 5>completely different jobs. Yes to you know, that's why you

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<v Speaker 5>hire good people. That's why you hire people that know

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<v Speaker 5>how to work a light.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what's funny on set like and you

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<v Speaker 4>might remember this, but it was, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if you've been on other sets since, Like obviously when

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<v Speaker 4>you're working on a TV show and like everybody has

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<v Speaker 4>their jobs, but it feels quite collaborative and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>resetting your prop every now and then, or you're responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for certain things or whatever. But there are some sets

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<v Speaker 4>you get on, and especially when you're the new person.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, as a director, I've been like, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just so used to working with props as an actor,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes I'd be like, oh, let me just I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna fux with this, and someone will come up and

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<v Speaker 4>be like, excuse me, may I help you with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Because everything is radiated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thing is a

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<v Speaker 4>union and you're not supposed to touch that ladder. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we're not supposed to move that couch, but

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<v Speaker 4>I keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the worst at that, again, because we're actors

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like and and it's because we're actors and

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<v Speaker 3>we do it, and nobody goes, that's my job. They're

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<v Speaker 3>just like the actors are touching things again, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean? Right, And then you always see him

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<v Speaker 3>go over and like fix it or do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like just because they're like, that's my job and I do.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously, like you said, you work with people for

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<v Speaker 3>a while and you just kind of get a rapport.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it is hard. Sometimes you come in and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, I'm just I'm just so used to

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<v Speaker 3>doing this thing and I'm gonna and they're like, don't

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<v Speaker 3>touch that, don't touch that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're like, I'm sorry, you're doing it wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right right, And I'm like, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as as women too, We're like, oh, let's fix up,

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<v Speaker 1>let's clean up, let's do this job, let's make it

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<v Speaker 1>all work, multitask, and they're like, no, right, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a department for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't cross union lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yes, yeah, as much my house ran like that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't cross department lines and that's your job

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<v Speaker 3>to unload the dishwasher.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you should start implementing that. I should.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I'm gonna have a union rep

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<v Speaker 3>in my house and we're going to we're gonna break

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<v Speaker 3>into some some guilds. We're gonna have an iazzi and

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<v Speaker 3>membership here, and we're gonna you know what, things are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen change.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, listen, I don't want our industry to go

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<v Speaker 4>on strike again, but I'm not opposed to implementing one

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<v Speaker 4>inside my house. Oh God, on the ground, why are

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<v Speaker 4>there somebody socks on the ground? Can I ask you

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<v Speaker 4>a question? Do people just come in and their tiny

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<v Speaker 4>little feet are just so sweaty that they just have

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<v Speaker 4>to shed.

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<v Speaker 3>Socks under the table house and then you'll never find

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<v Speaker 3>the mate again.

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<v Speaker 4>No, this is like the bane of my existence in life,

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<v Speaker 4>is not finding the mate to tiny socks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of other dramas, no, So, Christine, I know

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked a lot. I mean, you and I have

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<v Speaker 3>talked a lot about all sorts of things. But I

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<v Speaker 3>would love for people to kind of hear how you

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<v Speaker 3>got into the business as a child actor. They haven't

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<v Speaker 3>heard your story before, and you know, kind of how

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<v Speaker 3>you became Al Lambert and now the amazing industry. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>wonder kid that you are. I don't know, I'm having

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<v Speaker 3>a bad day. I had night sweats all last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not Yeah, it's bullshit, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's we

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<v Speaker 3>called this podcast HRT for a reason, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm with you. I'm right there with you. Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>So I moved to Atlanta when I was six, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was never very good at sports because I'm I

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<v Speaker 4>was always a tiny little person, so so.

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<v Speaker 3>You are pocket sized.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a pocket sized person. So team sports were always

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<v Speaker 4>just like a little bit hard for me. But dance

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<v Speaker 4>be kind of became my thing, and my mom really

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to involve me in a new you know, new community,

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<v Speaker 4>new school like community, such as a dance class. So

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<v Speaker 4>I went to a dance studio, was starting to take

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<v Speaker 4>some dance classes. They had acting on Fridays. I really

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<v Speaker 4>was into what is drama? I want to be in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was the kid who from a very early age

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<v Speaker 4>was putting on place for my parents. I was an

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<v Speaker 4>only child. I was very creative, always having to entertain

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<v Speaker 4>myself and literally anyone else who would watch me, so

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<v Speaker 4>that watching Carol Burnett was a I just loved the

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<v Speaker 4>movie Annie, I loved her. I love the Carol Burnett Show.

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<v Speaker 4>So I really wanted to do things like that, and

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<v Speaker 4>drama class seemed like a natural sort of fit, so

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<v Speaker 4>we went. The teacher was also a manager, as many

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<v Speaker 4>times you would find in the business that happens, and

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<v Speaker 4>she managed a few kids and said, hey, have you

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<v Speaker 4>ever thought about putting your kid commercials? And my mom

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<v Speaker 4>was not. This was Atlanta. This was like a regional,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of small town at the time, because

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking like eighties, not the where.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you move from? You said, you moved to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Where would where were you?

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<v Speaker 4>Originally? I was born in Dallas, only live there until

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<v Speaker 4>I was six months old. We moved to Maryland, lived

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<v Speaker 4>there for a few years, moved to Florida, lived there

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<v Speaker 4>for a few years, moved to Atlanta. So yeah, my

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<v Speaker 4>dad was My parents would say that they were corporate gypsies.

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<v Speaker 4>So my dad basically would start up some companies and

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<v Speaker 4>then get poached by another company to work for them

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<v Speaker 4>for a while. On the poached by another company. He

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<v Speaker 4>was sort of in the beginnings of what we now

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<v Speaker 4>know and what we are using now, which is Zoom.

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<v Speaker 4>But he did not create Zoom, but he created teleconference software,

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<v Speaker 4>got it for like back in the eighties for large

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<v Speaker 4>corporations to do it exactly what we're doing right now. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>So thanks Christine's dad, we wouldn't be here. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>probably wouldn't have several modems but made and then bought

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<v Speaker 4>by Motorola without my father. Yeah, So anyway, we went

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<v Speaker 4>on a My mom said, Okay, yeah, sure, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>she seems to like it. I guess we could give

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<v Speaker 4>it a shot. But there was no like, no one

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<v Speaker 4>really thought this was going to be a thing. Went

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<v Speaker 4>on a few auditions, booked a few regionals, booked a

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<v Speaker 4>few national commercials. My mom was like, maybe we need

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<v Speaker 4>an agent. I don't know, this seems to be going well.

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<v Speaker 4>She seems to like it. So I started slowly doing

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<v Speaker 4>some just like very kind of small town things, print

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<v Speaker 4>jobs and few nationals and TV movies, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Was doing theater with my theater company in South Georgia,

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<v Speaker 4>and strangely enough, Kirk and Candice Cameron's mom was there

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<v Speaker 4>and we did a show for the Make a Wish

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<v Speaker 4>Foundation and it's like a special show just for them

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<v Speaker 4>and his mom at the time was becoming a manager.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't sure agent manager, She wasn't sure which way she

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<v Speaker 4>was going. Anyway, her assistant approached my mom after the

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<v Speaker 4>show and said, we would love to talk more about

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<v Speaker 4>maybe representing Christina, California. That seemed like such a long shot.

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<v Speaker 4>How is that ever going to work? This is again,

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<v Speaker 4>before the time of zoom, So what are you doing

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<v Speaker 4>sending a beta tape? It's big to somebody to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, look at my demo, real you need a

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<v Speaker 3>movie theater size screen, but hold on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So it was sort of like a long you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a slow burn nine months or something of

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<v Speaker 4>them just sort of randomly talking. Eventually she decided to

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<v Speaker 4>get her license and become a manager, I believe, And

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<v Speaker 4>for my spring break that following spring, my mom took

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<v Speaker 4>me out to California, mostly for fun, but also it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, like waited, you know, right off the trip,

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<v Speaker 4>like maybe as a manager, and like do a demo

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<v Speaker 4>tape and just like have that beta tape ready to go? Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>So we came to the set of Full House, which

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<v Speaker 4>is the first time I ever met Jodi Sweeten, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was beside myself and I still have the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>I am wearing a stonewashed jean jumper and a great

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<v Speaker 4>It was my favorite outfit and I was a fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I watched the show, I knew everyone. I

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<v Speaker 4>believe we actually also met Andrea. I may have a

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<v Speaker 4>picture with you, but I don't believe. So nice. I

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<v Speaker 4>just remember being so so nice, and I remember going

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<v Speaker 4>back and telling all my friends about it, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was just like I'm at the cast a full House,

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<v Speaker 4>and like Uncle Jesse put his face right next to

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<v Speaker 4>mine and he smelled so good, and we have a

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<v Speaker 4>picture together, and I was like Kimmy was so nice

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<v Speaker 4>and she wasn't a nerd at all. She was so sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, so that was just a really fun moment

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<v Speaker 4>for me. And I sat down on that glad chair

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<v Speaker 4>and I did a scene from the movie You all

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<v Speaker 4>I think were on maybe a break or dinner or something,

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<v Speaker 4>but they worked it out to shoot my demo tape

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<v Speaker 4>audition my monologue right on the set. So I sat

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<v Speaker 4>down in that on the set, which was like so

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<v Speaker 4>surreal for me because of course I'm just freaking right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did a scene from the movie A Reconcilable

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<v Speaker 4>Differences in which the character played by Drew Barrymore divorces

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<v Speaker 4>her parents on the stand. Oh yeah, And my special

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<v Speaker 4>skill as a kid is that I could cry on

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<v Speaker 4>a cue, So I had that That's what they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to showcase. I had this ability to just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>turn on the water works and do this whole thing

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<v Speaker 4>and blah blah blah. So anyway, I'm doing the doing

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<v Speaker 4>the thing, and who walks by in the control booths

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<v Speaker 4>because at that time, they were still control booths in

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<v Speaker 4>sitcom where people would see all the monitors what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>But Bob Boyette and he said, like, what is this,

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening this child? You know, she's she's why is

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<v Speaker 4>she crying all the stuff. And we're doing a demo

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<v Speaker 4>tape and it's a favor and anyway, long story, long

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<v Speaker 4>story long. We go back to Atlanta a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>months later. You know, don't think again, don't think anything

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<v Speaker 4>of it. Right, they've been casting.

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<v Speaker 3>Its usually when it happens when you're like, I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>about that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And they were casting step by step. They had

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<v Speaker 4>every role locked but the role of Lambert. They had

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<v Speaker 4>had an actress and she had fallen through for various reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was they were up against it. And Bob

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<v Speaker 4>Boyett said, where's that girl? Where's that tape? Someone find her? Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>And they did, and we got a call saying can

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<v Speaker 4>you be in California tomorrow? And I remember being like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is crazy, this is really crazy, Like no bities

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<v Speaker 4>across the country for an audition. I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was also nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety at this time, right, so,

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<v Speaker 4>but again only child. My father traveled all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We had tons of frequent flyer miles. My dad said,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to do it, I've got the miles.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't want to do it, no pressure. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's don't worry about it, Like, if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, we can make it happen and it

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<v Speaker 4>might be just a great story. Like no pressure, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like, yeah, so we did. So I flew out

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<v Speaker 4>with my mom, got in that night. The next morning

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<v Speaker 4>I had my audition. I went in for Tom Miller

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<v Speaker 4>and Bob Boyette and and the casting director and did

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<v Speaker 4>the did the scenes and they laughed and I walked

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<v Speaker 4>out and they said, well, she's on a plane tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to see her again? And they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>bring her back. Cans. I can't knot? Can I like

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<v Speaker 4>date it again? I think, just make sure it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>like a fluke right right, And got to call. The

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<v Speaker 4>next day I booked the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I had no idea that it all started

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<v Speaker 1>on the Full House set.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, that wild, it's so yeah, so interesting, and

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, you know, Bob Boyett loves finding new

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<v Speaker 3>talent new you know. Yeah, yeah, it's funny, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of I mean, I did Valerie and that was how

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<v Speaker 3>I got cast on on Full House. Was again Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>Bob and the producers being like and Jeff being you know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh wait, that's who we you know, it's just funny.

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<v Speaker 3>You never again, you never know. That's the thing about

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<v Speaker 3>this business is like you never know what weird little

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<v Speaker 3>random thing, which is why I'm always like you going

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<v Speaker 3>to a pitch, meaning or you go do something and

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<v Speaker 3>like it doesn't go the way you want, You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but it might go away. I don't even have any

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<v Speaker 3>idea how it's going to happen. I mean absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 3>But what an awesome experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and of course, you know, doing a pilot, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it was it was wild. Like we moved basically

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<v Speaker 4>from the Hilton and Woodland Hills and then all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden it was like, ooh, we all knows, like

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<v Speaker 4>they had us in like the Century Plaza Hotel. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh my god, where did you guys shoot?

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<v Speaker 3>Step by step?

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<v Speaker 4>We shot the first two years at Culver Studios in

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<v Speaker 4>Culver City, That's right. But the craziest part, and like

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about this on our podcast that I have

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<v Speaker 4>with Stacy Keenan, but the craziest part of that was

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<v Speaker 4>because I think Tom and Bob and you know, Michael

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<v Speaker 4>Warren and Bill Bickley. They had done so many shows, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they had they they knew the formulas. They was happy

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<v Speaker 4>these Lavernon Shirley, you know, Full House, like Perfect Strangers,

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<v Speaker 4>all these shows. They just had the formula down, and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like they knew when they were gonna push

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<v Speaker 4>something to make it a hit. They had Susanne Summers

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<v Speaker 4>and Patrick Duffy like the most of us honestly were

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<v Speaker 4>interchangeable at any given moment, I'm sure, especially in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>But they wanted to put a lot behind it. So

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<v Speaker 4>the first two days of shooting that pilot, we shot

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<v Speaker 4>a title sequence at Magic Mountain where they shut the

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<v Speaker 4>entire place down, Like can we talk about that for

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<v Speaker 4>a minute, the amount of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's insane, that's ambitious.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did you guys shoot the title sequence when you

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<v Speaker 4>shot the pilot?

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<v Speaker 3>We we shot that. We did shoot the title sequence,

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<v Speaker 3>but because ours was in San Francisco, they did like

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<v Speaker 3>they took up doubles to do like the the fishing

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<v Speaker 3>bridge and the fishing stuff and all that that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>in San Francisco, Like those are doubles and our stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>Like as they pulled out like that's all us in

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<v Speaker 3>like Griffith Park or something, and then they and then

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<v Speaker 3>it cuts to once they're far enough away to just

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<v Speaker 3>the car and the bridge. Yeah, but yeah, that's crazy crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>They also had doubles for us. They did not let

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<v Speaker 4>us ride Colossus, damn insurance, god stupid. But we did

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<v Speaker 4>ride the boat rides, and that's the one that everybody

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<v Speaker 4>like remembers going down the boat and splashing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right right. It's sort of like Jurassic Park at Universal, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>which I take angry on in every October.

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<v Speaker 4>She hates.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like scary rides. I don't like scary things.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's scary now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well just roller coasters. Yes, I can handle the

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<v Speaker 2>Jurassic Park ride. Okay, she can handle it.

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<v Speaker 3>She can handle it. It's the it's the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's at horror nights that really.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's the horror nights that I hate.

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<v Speaker 4>The monsters.

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<v Speaker 3>We're prepping it now, we're starting that, we're just so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this is the thing we do every year

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<v Speaker 3>that she says she's not going to do it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we do it, and then she has a great time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, Wine from Smokehouse, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds and never oh no, enough of a whole

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood horror nights.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean we could keep going. My favorite does

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<v Speaker 3>let's not please sh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sh no.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say. I was telling ab before we

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<v Speaker 3>started that you and I were in acting class together

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<v Speaker 3>and you were talking about, you know, doing class and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that you could like cry on cue and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and you I was always so intimidated by you in

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<v Speaker 3>class that lay in a bad way where I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't compare it, but like you were just always

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<v Speaker 3>you could pick up a script and like a cold read,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd have it almost memorized, and like you would be

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<v Speaker 3>so in it. And I told her, I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I just never did that. And I was like, probably

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<v Speaker 3>because I was fucking around in class. But anyway, but

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<v Speaker 3>and Christine was serious and like I'm here, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>you just you're like and you're just so talented. I

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<v Speaker 3>love I. You know, you're one of my favorite peeps.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think you're super super talented and you

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<v Speaker 3>have been since you were a kid. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>people saw you do again, you know, they see us

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<v Speaker 3>do sitcoms or whatever, and they're like, Oh, you must

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<v Speaker 3>just be fluff, but you're actually really, really freaking talented.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thank you for saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're a bad ass director. You've been directing the Goldbergs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you have been directing AFRICQE a while, so I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I took a circuitous path along many routes and

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<v Speaker 4>various careers in the entertainment industry. But so I after

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<v Speaker 4>the show ended in nineteen ninety eight, I guess I

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<v Speaker 4>was in college. I went to UCLA and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>doing college and then also doing like the Guest Stars

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, the TV, the teen movies and this

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<v Speaker 4>is like the two early two thousands, just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>doing all that kind of stuff. I went back to

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<v Speaker 4>theater because it was always and a love of mine,

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<v Speaker 4>and it just just gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved acting class. I loved acting class, being around actors,

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<v Speaker 4>I loved being around, you know, a theater company. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>in doing so, they needed a choreographer and I'd had

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<v Speaker 4>all this dance background, and I was sort of like,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I could do it. I think I could

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<v Speaker 4>do it. I could do it. So I just start

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<v Speaker 4>choreographing for the theater company, and one thing leads to another,

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<v Speaker 4>and I start choreographing for other people, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>got nominated a bunch of times in la and theater stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and just like again, just like kind of a snowball

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<v Speaker 4>of this is cool. I went to go do a

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<v Speaker 4>movie called Reefer Madness in Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to do that movie so bad. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>when it was coming out and everyone was up for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember when you got it and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god it's Cristique because I was like, but I

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<v Speaker 3>was too young, I think at the time. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was definitely like still a teenager and people were like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I was like, but their teens in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie, I know, But.

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<v Speaker 4>So great, great. I mean, I was such a big

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<v Speaker 4>fan of the stage musical.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I remember going to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's brilliant, brilliant, and so yeah, the little tiny part

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<v Speaker 4>of played Joan of Arc and then I did some

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<v Speaker 4>like dancing and stuff. But I was in Vancouver, as

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<v Speaker 4>you know, for a really long time because my scenes

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<v Speaker 4>were all there was rehearsal, and the scenes are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of all over the place, so the choreographer Marian Pelogg,

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<v Speaker 4>who's wonderful, said hey, could you come help me out

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<v Speaker 4>and be part of my skeleton crew, which is basically

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<v Speaker 4>just helping her be bodies to try different things, try

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<v Speaker 4>different shapes, and figure out what she wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>with some of these other numbers. And in doing so,

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<v Speaker 4>I basically was able to shadow her throughout that entire process.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really amazing. Worked again with her as one

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<v Speaker 4>of her assistants on a movie called You Again for Disney. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I say all of these things because again, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>you never really know where a path is going to

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<v Speaker 4>lead you. Yep, Sunday Stevens was the first ad on

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<v Speaker 4>You Again. And then after the movie, when on to

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<v Speaker 4>work on True Blood, I got a call after You Again.

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<v Speaker 4>After I'd worked with her now a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 4>I got a call and they said, hey, they need

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<v Speaker 4>a choreographer to come in. They're just they need somebody

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<v Speaker 4>to do just some like. It was basically social media

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<v Speaker 4>promos for their new season coming out, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>pay a lot, but you know we need like so

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<v Speaker 4>we were going to call Mary ann Ella, who as

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<v Speaker 4>an emmy, but she's like I know someone that might

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<v Speaker 4>want to do that, and so I said, yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So I found all these hilarious actors and it was

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<v Speaker 4>Alexander Scarsguard and he's sitting there in the club, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>watching these people who came into audition to be these

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the people that were going to perform, and

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 4>it's funny and it's it's anyway. So that was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of my first thing. And I ended up doing a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of episodes of True Blood and worked with Anna

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Paquin and worked with a couple other people, and then

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<v Speaker 4>my name just started to get passed around. So I

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly had this like funny career as a side job

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<v Speaker 4>as a choreographer in film and television because I knew

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<v Speaker 4>how to talk to actors, but I also understood movement.

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 4>And I also said that a lot of actors aren't dancers,

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 4>so you have there's a certain language in which you

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 4>can't just be like it's a one, two three and

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 4>pivot up down and they're like, I'm sorry, what right? Right?

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I say words, I don't dance. I'm yeah, yeah, you

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 3>want to the other big one right.

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of actors are not super comfortable or

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 4>they don't have the confidence to think, like, I get

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of you know, I'm not a dancer. I'm

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.439
<v Speaker 4>not a dancer. I'm like, I'm not asking you to be.

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Let's just figure out what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many times did that happen to us

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 3>on Fuller?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm sure we had.

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>We had so many ridiculous dance numbers on that show.

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 4>We did.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a Bollywood number, we did like a giant,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 3>we did a like the whole ballroom dancing thing.

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>The Irish dancing, Irish.

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<v Speaker 3>Dancing, we did the the engagement, uh you know street

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<v Speaker 3>dancing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean yeah, Chris Chris Judd had his hands,

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that's Truey. He was always like, oh.

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 4>Boy, he's like a real choreographer. Yeah. So anyway, so

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 4>that eventually somehow led me after a bunch of you know,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 4>random jobs all over the place. Again, it's just sort

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 4>of like who you know, my name got passed to

0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 4>someone over at the Goldbergs. And I think it's because

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I'd done an episode of Breaking In and the same

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 4>line producer working on that, and I started on that

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.639
<v Speaker 4>show in season one and I became the choreographer for

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<v Speaker 4>all ten seasons and then somewhere around season five, I

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<v Speaker 4>started to pivot my career in another direction and wanting

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 4>to be more behind the scenes, wanting to, you know,

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 4>produce and pitch content, wanting to And that's when Jody

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 4>and I were working on Hollywood Darlings, and myself and

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Jody and Beverly were around. We were trying to pitch

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 4>it and get that off the ground, and and it

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like I had this kind of of

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 4>aha moment one day when I was sitting on set

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 4>for god knows how many hours and watching waiting for

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 4>my choreography moment to come up well, watching the monitor

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 4>and watching the director, and I just thought to myself,

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I think that's the job I'm supposed

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 4>to be doing. Why am I not doing that? Because

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 4>I know how to now, I know how to do

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 4>that job, and I see all the things and I've

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:23.959
<v Speaker 4>been like, and I know how to work with an actor.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 4>That's the job I'm supposed to do. So I have

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 4>to get my hands on a camera and I have

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 4>to just start shooting so that I have something to

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.399
<v Speaker 4>show somebody if the time ever comes. And so for

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 4>the next like four or five years, I put my

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.479
<v Speaker 4>intention on that and it was really hard. It was

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 4>hard to break in. It was really hard to find

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 4>whatever that that avenue was going to be. And after

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 4>many years of trying to put that foot in the door,

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 4>that hat in the ring, whatever it was, they gave

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 4>me my first shot on the Goldbergs and then I'd

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 4>been with them for five or six years at that point,

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 4>and then and then I direct did for the rest

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 4>of yeah, for the rest of their run, so next

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 4>four years, and it was so some other stuff.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 3>So awesome to see you get to do that. It

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 3>was really fun.

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. It was. Yeah. I love that job. I

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 4>love that job so much. I love putting the pieces together,

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 4>and I really love I love working with actors. I

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>don't I don't. People ask if I miss acting. I

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 4>still act and at times like yes, it's fun, but

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 4>there's something there's something really satisfying to me about helping,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 4>like helping the actor find whatever the comedic moment is,

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 4>or helping it like putting it together. It's just I

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 4>get a different kind of satisfaction out of it.

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, and when you have like such a great director

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 3>who has so much experience and like you know, on

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 3>the other side of the camera too. It really does.

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Having a director who has been an actor, I think

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>is always so helpful because it does it gives you

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 3>a different language to like communicate. It helps you understand,

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, the stress or the you know, neurosis of

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>being in front of the camera. You know, all of that.

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Darlings. I know it was the highlight of our careers,

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 3>but it really was. We had so much fun doing

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood Darlings. We were doing that during Fuller House. We

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>did a couple of seasons of that, and that's a

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 3>cute show, so much fun. Again, it was all improv,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>which is something Christine is absolutely brilliant at. Like doing

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 3>improv with Christine in those scenes was just and and

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>she'd come in in an a costume with an outfit.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 3>This girl has a costume closet like you wouldn't believe. Like,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 3>if you ever need a thing, you're like, I have

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 3>to dress like Pinocchio for an audition, call Christine and

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 3>she'll be like, I got you, I got you.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 4>So it's the theater. You can't get me out of

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 4>the Yeah, I've got you know, I've got the box

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 4>of tricks somewhere.

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's so great. But I like doing that with

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 3>you was so much fun because it was such a

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 3>great exercise also in again improv and like just sort

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 3>of writing on the fly and editing and do you

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>know like doing a show like that where it's all improv.

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, we a lot of times going to be

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 3>like what are we doing?

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 4>What? What are we doing? What are we this is?

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 4>This is Jody right before we felt what are we saying?

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 4>We're saying and I'm like, I think I'm saying something

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 4>about this and you're saying something. I We'll figure it out, right.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Like anyway, with the concept of Hollywood Darlings, did was

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it the three of you or one person sort of

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>took the reins or how did it come to be?

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, it started with Jimmy Fox and he had been

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 3>trying to put together like a show of different He

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 3>was a huge fan of like TGIF and sort of

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>all of those you know, t it cooms up. Beverly

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Mitchell was also on Hollywood Darlings with us who was

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 3>on seven the other number they yeah, And anyway, so

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 3>we had been talking to Jimmy originally and he wanted

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 3>to do like the idea had started as like, oh,

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 3>they want to do a reality show, and we were

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 3>all like, we don't want to do a reality show.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 3>We were like, we'll do a heightened reality show. We

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>will play sort of Curb your Enthusiasm as where we

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>will play versions of ourself that are leaning into our

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 3>most you know, sort of extreme extreme and like what

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 3>makes the dynamic of the you know, the three of

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 3>us the funniest because we had been friends for years,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 3>so that was really how it came about. Was like

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 3>it had gotten pitched, you know. They were like, oh,

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 3>we want to do reality and we were like, we

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>won't do that, but we will play ourselves as characters.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 3>And that was so much fun because it was a

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>rereadom of like getting to be yourself but also lean

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 3>into the extreme you know nature of your whatever.

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the ridiculous nature. Like you know, it's like the

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 4>there're the side of me that would be hippy, dippy

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 4>and spiritual and come with me to the sound back,

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>you know. And then there's like Jody who's like, what

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 4>do you mean sound back? You know, and then Beverly

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 4>was like, guys, right, guys, did see my labels? You know?

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Andrew Keegan was the one that was

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>running the sound bath. So that was that. That was

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 3>a whole something didn't It wasn't that the episode?

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Where was it?

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>You got complete? Something happened. We dumped something all over

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>You didn't.

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Over, Andrea?

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you the milk, the milk. Right.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 4>That was when I wanted to be the spokesperson.

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 3>For boob right right right? Yes.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like.

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 4>What what was it? It was an acronym for something.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 4>It was like breastfeeding mothers or something something. Yeah, it

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>was free the boobs or whatever, right, And you were

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 4>like I.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Want to be yeah, and you were like trying to

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.479
<v Speaker 3>become the spokesperson for it, and we're like what are

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 3>you doing? And then you got like, yeah, just covered

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>in milk. I will never forget. I think we were

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 3>shooting in like the the church basement or something of that. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and and and it was like all right, we're doing

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 3>the milk. I was like, oh my god. And it

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>was what commitments it was. I mean, you know how

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 3>it is, you know how these ab you and I

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>have done it where you're like all right, we're just

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>here we go. We're gonna get slimmed.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>You gotta go big or just don't do it at all.

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, yep, right, I feel like on Step by Step

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 4>there were so many now that I'm like rewatching it.

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen these episodes in a very long time,

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 4>but I'm amazed how many food fight, food on faces,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 4>food moments. Yeah, there were a lot in Full House too.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a fit, we had we had food moments,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 3>but ours were also like you know, cars through kitchens,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 3>concrete mixers through kitchens.

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of musical moments too, the musical montages.

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Musical montages like you wouldn't believe, particularly the first I'm

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>convinced now that the first season of Full House is

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 3>actually musical. I didn't know it, but we are basically

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 3>just a motown musical is what we are.

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's so yeah to see You're like, oh,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what it was like. Because after not have you

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>ever seen Step by Step while you were filming it

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>or did you were just like I'm done, I don't

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>want to see it again.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, I mean, as I said earlier, I

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 4>was such a huge tgi A fan. Okay, so I

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>was watching all the shows on Friday, and then when

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>I got on a show, it was very meta, like

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 4>it was I was excited to see it. I was

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 4>a fan of all of it. I just you know,

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 4>as it went on and I got into high school

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, I sort of tried to pretend like I

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't care as much, but I always thought it was

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 4>really fun. I mean, I was always really into it.

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Stacy Keenan never watched an episode.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, we never watched. Okay, what's now you're doing

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>rewatch podcast? Just so yes, people know with you and

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Stacy Keenan, what is the name of your rewatch podcast

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>so that we can get people to go check that

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 3>one out too.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's called Keenan and Laken give you Deja Voo.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>So we are recapping season one. We're almost at the

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 4>end of season one and then we'll start season two

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>early September. But yeah, we kind of recap the episode,

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 4>talk about it, and then we're and then we go

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>on the tangent of talking about like stuff we remember

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 4>certain things in our lives. What's really interesting about her

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 4>and I is that because I was the big fan

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 4>and I was the target audience, I mean, I was

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 4>the demographic, and she was my two dads, and she

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 4>had done all these other things, and she wasn't watching

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 4>the show, and like we had completely different memories of

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 4>the show because mine are very visceral, and she a

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 4>lot of times doesn't remember anything about action filming the show,

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 4>but remembers a lot of other things for being like sixteen,

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 4>Like the stories that she tells about her life and

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<v Speaker 4>the people that she knew in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>At sixteen, Yeah, yeah, are very.

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<v Speaker 4>Different than the people I was hanging out with at twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I was trying just to like

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<v Speaker 4>get close to JTT at the like you know, Ron McDonald, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Bake off for yes, get in line and start.

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<v Speaker 4>Going yeah hello. So that's actually really interesting there. There's

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<v Speaker 4>been a couple of stories she's already told me that

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea happened, things that you know, between

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<v Speaker 4>her and Brandon Call and she got him in trouble

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<v Speaker 4>on accident once and I had no idea about any

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<v Speaker 4>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, thanks so much for listening to part one of

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<v Speaker 3>our interview with Christine Laken, And we have so much

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<v Speaker 3>more for you, so much more fun and laughs and

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<v Speaker 3>great questions in chatting with our good friend Christine, So

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<v Speaker 3>make sure and tune in for part two of our

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>See that was it?

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<v Speaker 2>You just needed a little rehearsal first, and now.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct that one's not my best. We're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 3>better part two is gonna have a better, better ten line.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, okay, okay, I believe you. I believe