1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: are down in Miami where Buck and his wife Carrie 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: through a spectacular holiday party last night. So festivities of 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: the Christmas season are in the air here and I'm 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: sure many different places around the country, as I bet 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: a lot of you are into the holiday party season swing. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: We've got a ton of different stories to update you 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: on and to dive into with all of you. This 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: is a crazy one, Buck, This is a little bit 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: my world's colliding because it is a top story everywhere 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: and it kind of came out yesterday. But the University 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: of Michigan has a football coach who has been fired, 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore, and it appears that he is going to 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: be charged with very very serious criminal offenses. 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Maybe while we're. 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: On the air today in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area. 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: There are tons of reporters that are prepared to hear 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the arraignment there. He has been in prison in jail 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: since Wednesday, so two nights now. They have not yet 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: released the arraignment. But Buck, it appears, based on the 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: reports that are out there, that he was engaged in 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: a relationship with a subordinate She went public with the 23 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: University of Michigan, with the fact that that relationship was 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: going on, and then he was fired, and then he 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: evidently flipped out, and there are reports he showed up 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: at her house with a knife, threatening to kill her 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: and kill himself, and he was arrested and he has 28 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: been held for the past two days. Now those reports, 29 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: maybe we can grab him. That aired on the local 30 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: Fox affiliate in Detroit. But this is a this is 31 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: an unbelievable story and it is going to be I 32 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: think as the charges come out, and even bigger story. 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: So we will follow that. 34 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Just when you think college football, Buck finally becomes a 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: college football fan a bit and the stories just become 36 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable and insane as we break all that down. Now 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: bigger international stories that are out there, Buck, the Venezuela 38 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: situation continues to tick up. It feels like to a 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: large degree, we've got the Jasmine Crockett Joy Reid sit 40 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: down interview that absolutely no one on the planet was 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: talking about, but I actually wanted to. We'll talk about 42 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Gilmar Breo Garcia, the Maryland Dad, aka the human trafficking smuggler, 43 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: is back in the news. But I thought this was interest, 44 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about it a lot. Lindsay Halligan 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: was the attorney who was pointed appointed and was able 46 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: to get indictments of James Comy and of Leticia James. 47 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: But we've talked about the difficulty sometimes in getting grand 48 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: jury indictments in these Democrat blue areas. Buck and Leticia 49 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: James now with new attorneys trying to get these indictments, 50 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: has twice been refused to be indicted by grand juries. 51 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: And uh, this is cut one. Listen to this, this 52 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: big discussion, because again, what is it that Lindsay Halligan 53 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: was able to do that no one else who has 54 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: been in her job can somehow accomplish. 55 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: Listen to cut. 56 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: One died by this word. 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: This is the notion that no one is about the law. 58 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: And it seems pretty clear that you actually did commit 59 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: a crime. 60 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: Now I actually Leticia James saying it's clear that she 61 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: did commit a crime. It looks like she's filing application 62 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: that were the case. 63 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: It would be easy piece to get a grand jury 64 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: jury in Virginia. 65 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: Is I don't know? All right? 66 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: So what's going on here that only Lindsay Halligan seems 67 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: capable of getting these indictments you're seeing. We've talked about 68 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: this a lot, but you know, the guy who threw 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: the subway sandwich was the DC grand jury refused to indict. 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: One of the big challenges that Trump has faced as 71 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: he is trying to hold people accountable for the crimes 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: that they allegedly have committed, is there are lots of 73 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: these blue jurisdictions which we are playing a road game 74 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: every single time, that to a large extent just will 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: not indict. And I don't know, uh, I have an 76 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: idea about what a solution would be, Buck, but this 77 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: is why we've kind of consistently said. The idea that 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to get some form of 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: justice here is going to be very, very difficult, not 80 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: only because the statutes of limitations are running out, but 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: just because left wing grand juries refuse to indict because 82 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to indict their own team members. 83 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: So that's really the final thing you said, I think 84 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: is the determining factor, which is it's not I would 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: think the particular skill, legal skill and acumen of the 86 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: of Lindsay Halligan. I think that what this is just 87 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: is the jury is this grand jury comprised of people 88 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: who view any indictment of Leticia James as inherently political. See, 89 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: this is the problem. It is now all so political 90 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: that it's very hard for people, where some people are 91 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: unwilling to disentangle the politics. Right, Leticia James Attorney General 92 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: of New York in a gross violation of very basic 93 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: ethics for an employee a prosecutor said I'm going to 94 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: get a private citizen when she was running, Okay, and 95 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: that was the entire foundation of much of her campaign, 96 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: was saying I'm going to get Donald Trump and and 97 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: and she should be ashamed of that, and everybody who 98 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: supports her or supported and supports her should be ashamed 99 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: of that. They're not, of course, but that was what 100 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: she did. And then she brought a very clearly absurd 101 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: political hit job civil case against Donald Trump, and with 102 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: the massive judgment, and all you have to know is 103 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: that she, according to her, the banks are idiots. Trump's 104 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: an idiot, even though everyone involved here are super sophisticated, 105 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: worth billions and billions of dollars, do their own due diligence, 106 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: and they're all happy. She knew more than Trump and 107 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: the banks who were he worked with, who said he 108 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: wanted to wanted to work with them again, he defrauded them, 109 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: that this is insane. But now they've said, okay, fine, 110 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: no one's above the law. That includes no one includes 111 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: right inherently Letitia James. There are people on that jury 112 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: who they watch CNN, They read the Washington Post, in 113 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: particular the Northern Virginia jury. Right, They read the Washington Post, 114 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: and they think that no matter what you clay, they 115 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: if they showed up with Leticia James on video accepting 116 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: a million dollars in cash to prosecute Trump, yes, there 117 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: are a lot of people on the jury who say, Nope, nope, 118 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: not going to do it. Either I don't believe it 119 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: or I don't care because she's anti Trump. So this 120 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: just shows you how fractured the legal system has become 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: because of this. 122 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Well, and here's my solution, and I think I've had 123 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: a couple of senators on with us and made this case. 124 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: We have to allow at least when it comes to prosecutions, 125 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: people say, okay, they can indict anybody who's a Republican 126 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: in DC, Northern Virginia, obviously, New York City, many of 127 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: these blue cities inside of Blue jurisdictions, you should be 128 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: able to remove to your local jurisdiction any federal charges 129 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: brought against you. So, in other words, if I were 130 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: charged with a crime in Washington, d C. I should 131 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: be able to move that case back to my home 132 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: state of Tennessee. 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it. 134 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Would solve everything, but it would mean that a jury 135 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: of my actual peers would judge me, as opposed to 136 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: a jury of a kangaroo court in a blue city 137 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that is overwhelmingly opposed to me because of my politics. 138 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: And look, this is what Trump is having to deal with. 139 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: Now. 140 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: We're in South Florida right now, and there is talk 141 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: that they are trying to make charges be brought around 142 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice, Jack Smith, all of that 143 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: investigatory process. I believe there's a grand jury impaneled in 144 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: South Florida that actually feels fair to me because it's 145 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: much more of a fifty to fifty ish jurisdiction. But 146 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: when you're trying to get anyone indicted for federal crimes 147 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that occur in the Washington DC area, which almost all 148 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: of them do, it is well nigh impossible. 149 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: There you go. 150 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: I used to phrase, well nigh I don't think my 151 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: grandma's gonna be happy. Well nigh impossible to get an 152 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: actual indictment there, And look, we praise Lindsay Holligan for 153 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: her ability to do this, buck no one else seems 154 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: to be capable of doing it, which makes you wonder 155 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: what are these career prosecutors actually doing and how aggressively 156 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: are they really bringing the case in front of the 157 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: grand jury. Why could we get an indictment from Lindsay 158 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: Halligan when she did it and these career prosecutors aren't 159 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: able to do it. It makes me wonder how much 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: are they really going through the process of trying to 161 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: get charges versus just kind of going through what they 162 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: consider to be an illegitimate case and not actually trying 163 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to get an indictment. 164 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: Well, also, if you look at just expectations management here, 165 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: we're just talking about a grand jury indictment, which Abby 166 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: Phillip is correct. Abby Phillips is correct that that is 167 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: generally a pretty slam dunk part of the process. Yes, 168 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: getting an actual conviction that's going to be a whole 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: other situation. But I would just say with this kind 170 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: of a crime, it's very straightforward, yes, which is why 171 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: the resistance to this or you know, to claim that 172 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: it's political is to assert that facts in evidence that 173 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: both sides have. I mean, this is, you sign the paperwork, 174 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't your house, you signed it multiple times, you lied, 175 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: you got a financial benefit from it. Those are the allegations. 176 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: But that's what is pretty straightforward about this. The other 177 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: broke the law, you didn't. And really what you're seeing 178 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: are people who will take the position that breaking the 179 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: law for someone who is who has used the law 180 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: to get trumpet, they have a get out of Jeffrey 181 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: cart essentially that you are above and beyond legal sanction 182 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: as long as you have tried to get trump and 183 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately that may play out the same way 184 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,359 Speaker 2: on a jury, Clay, all you need is one tag resistance, 185 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, angry, probably middle aged female bureaucratit Department of 186 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: such and such to be on that jury. And guess what, 187 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: logician James worst case scenario, you're looking at a hung 188 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: jury and. 189 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: Totally I think that will one hundred percent end up happening. 190 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: We wanted to update you on that. We'll have some 191 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: fun Friday edition. Our buddy Ryan Gerdsky is going to 192 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: be with US at two. There's some data out there 193 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: that suggests that millions of people may well have left 194 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: the country who were here illegally in the birth numbers. 195 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: And he's a data nerd. He broke it down for us. 196 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: I read it earlier this week. I was impressed by 197 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: the methodology. And he'll come on and explain because there's 198 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about not only who is 199 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: being deported, but how many people are self deporting. So 200 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: we will talk about all that in the meantime. Big 201 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: win last night for the Atlanta Falcons. Tampa Buccaneers played awful. 202 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: I've got picks for you at price picks right now, 203 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: super easy. This is up on the Clay and Buck 204 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: website and it's also up on our Twitter feed. 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Let's have some 219 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: fun and let's try to get a win this weekend 220 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: Making America great again isn't just one man, It's many. 222 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: The Team forty seven podcast Sunday's at noon Eastern in 223 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck podcast feed, Fight it on the 224 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 225 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to play and Buck, and I'll 226 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: tell you I like the Christmas music. We had a 227 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: little Christmas chin dig down here yesterday and I have 228 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: to report back it was a fabulous party. Fabulous exclamation point, 229 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: it was a fabulous party. I have to what did 230 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: you think of my velvet jacket? Clay? Clay was very 231 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: Christmasy green shirt, red velvet jacket, which is very he was. 232 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: He was really a fashion played last night I got 233 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: to tell you how to go up very fashion forward, 234 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: and I was watching, I was observing, I was I 235 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: was hoping that we would catch him in a moment 236 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: of weakness reaching across that open bar for a glass 237 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: of rose, given all of the delicious delectables gotches and 238 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: whiskeys and tequilas and beers and everything else. And I 239 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: can only I can report back that there was not 240 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: a rose in sight with mister Clay last night, so 241 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: he stayed strong. Thank you for your attention in this matter. 242 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I did not have any rosees. I did have a 243 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of bourbons, so that was It was a lot 244 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: of fun. It was an awesome event. And by the way, 245 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: congratulations to your father in law who right now is 246 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: completing his final day as a commercial airline pilot, which 247 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: is a cool thing. I did it you have a 248 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: final flight. So he was at the party last night. 249 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: He flew up to the northeast and he's got friends 250 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: and family. It's pretty cool. I didn't know you had 251 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: like a final flight kind of experience. Twenty seven years 252 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: flying for American Airlines, super before that a naval aviator 253 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: flying F eighteens. So he is he is currently up 254 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: in the in New York at a New York airport. 255 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: He'll be flying back down to South Florida tonight. That 256 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: will be that leg will be his his last, his 257 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: last flight. 258 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Will put some some fun photos up of the flat 259 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Lee crew, sell It family celebrating in the cockpit and 260 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: and everything else because they they went along. I'm working today, 261 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: but my wife and her and her sisters and you know, 262 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the family, they're they're all that's super cool. 263 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 264 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Did you know that commercial airline pilots had a tradition 265 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: like that on their final flight. 266 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: I never heard of. I think it's I think it's great. 267 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: I think it's great. So he'll he's gonna make a 268 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: little speech, probably to the passengers, so they'll get a 269 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: nice moment. You know, they'll get a real, a real 270 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: hallmark moment on the way down as we enter this 271 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: holiday season where they'll he'll give his final sign off 272 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: over the PA you know where they do like, hey, 273 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: it's seventy five degrees breezy, and I've been flying for 274 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: twenty seven years, and you know, he'll get into it. 275 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: So that was really, really, really cool. And we're going 276 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: to go out tonight and celebrate that hopefully I will 277 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: still have a voice left. I I gotta tell you 278 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: you're losing it here a little bit. It's a little 279 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: husky in a voice, a little husky. It was loud, 280 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: It was loud. Last night we had live jazz. We 281 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: had live jazz, which was fun and it was it 282 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: was boisterous, and I think that, you know, the saxophone 283 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: should make a comeback. I'm just gonna tell you I'm 284 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: a sax guy. 285 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: It's a dangerous phrase on the radio, but it reminds 286 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: me the saxophone guy. Was there no flutes? I thought 287 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I might walk in and there'd just being I wanted 288 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: a little Jethro Tall Actually yeah, not least. I thought 289 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: there might be a flute ensemble performance there for my benefit. 290 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: But I did not see any flutes. 291 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: By the way, this is super cool with Carrie in 292 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: the cockpit, So planbuck dot com so those you want 293 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: to see some of the photos of the final twenty 294 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: seven years flying and today's the last flight, so check 295 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: it out. I know producer Alley's jealous because she's still 296 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: in love with the shirtless saxophone player from Lost Boys. 297 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: If you remember that unbelievable, incredible scene from the festival 298 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the park amusement park. Guy there, that's one of the 299 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: iconic nineteen eighties, eighties movie scenes. You just have a 300 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: super ripped, shirtless saxophone player just going to town there 301 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: at the amusement park, as one does. And uh and 302 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: so yeah, it was. It was just an awesome It 303 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: was a fun it was a fun event. Our buddy 304 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: Alexi L. Wallace right before he gets into the full sprint 305 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: of the World Cup hanging out with us as well. 306 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: Lots of guests. Carol Markowitz, Michael Barry, buddy from Houston. 307 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: He made the He made the trip all the way 308 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: from Houston with his with his wonderful wife, so they 309 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: were celebrating with us last night. Dave Rutherford from the 310 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck podcast network was there. We've got a 311 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: whole whole bunch of folks. I can't reader. We had 312 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: eighty eighty something people. Yeah, so, I mean it was 313 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: you know, it was it was festive. It was festive. 314 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: No, it was outstanding. It was super super fun. So 315 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm appreciative that you guys were able to do that. 316 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: And again I'm excited for your father in law and 317 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: that that final flight. 318 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: He's in the air right now, and I'm glad plays 319 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: here because if my voice gives out, the show must 320 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: go on. Jusus. Metals used to be defined by the 321 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: sale of gold coins, gold bars, silver ounces. For many 322 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: they were collectibles that increased in value. 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Text Buck to ninety eight ninety 340 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: eight ninety eight Today. 341 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Fuck Sexton show as we 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: come back in too. 343 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: Melodic holiday tunes. There you know, Gavin. 344 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Newsom Buck has surged to the top of the likely 345 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: Democrat nominees for twenty twenty eight. If you look at 346 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: the polymarket or Calshi prediction markets out there, he has 347 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: opened up a really kind of prohibitive lead on being 348 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: the nominee. And as part of that, he's gotten pretty 349 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: nasty on social media. I think initially he was trying 350 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to do a version of Donald Trump, and then he 351 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: has now just kind of I think seen the algorithm 352 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: reward his nastiness, and this I thought was particularly nasty. 353 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. It's starting to 354 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: go a little bit viral. Gavin Newsom said, I believe 355 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: yesterday that he wanted there to be basically more trans kids. 356 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: And I think most people out there, whatever your thoughts 357 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: are on trans related issues, would not want miners making 358 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: choices that could be so debility hating to their bodies, 359 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: and certainly is makes their lives more challenging. Here was 360 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: the quote, I want to see trans kids. There's no 361 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: governor that's done more pro trans legislation than I have. 362 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: That is Gavin Newsom and Elon Musk responded, and so, 363 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: first of all, Gavin Newsom says, correct. Elon shared that 364 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: that clip and said this was the wrong decision. Gavin 365 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Newsom responded and said correct, We're sorry your daughter hates you, 366 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Elon Gavin Newsom's official Twitter acaunt that's ugly. Okay, So 367 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: Elon said again, I don't want there being more trans kids. 368 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: It's not a good policy. So then Gavin Newsom says, 369 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: We're sorry your daughter hates you. Here's what Elon Musk 370 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: responded here recently, just in the last few hours. I 371 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: assume you're referring to my son Xavier, who has a 372 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus 373 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: you push on vulnerable children. I love Xavier very much 374 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: and hope he recovers. My daughters are Azure, Iksa and Arcadia, 375 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: and they do indeed love me very much. But that's 376 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: really unbelievably nasty from Gavin Newsom to say we're sorry 377 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: your daughter hates you. 378 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: So can we go there for a second. Didn't Gavin 379 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: Newsom sleep with his best friend slash campaign manager's wife. Yes, 380 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: that's a pure scumbag move. Yes, that's really all you 381 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: have to know about someone's character. And that's not even 382 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: taking into account the fact that Gavin Newsom is a walking, talking, 383 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: lying BS machine and always has been. But this is 384 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: not a guy who should be taking shots at people's 385 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: First off, didn't his wife sue Harvey Weinstein and lose? 386 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: There was a lawsuit. 387 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember the specifics, but his wife was involved. 388 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: I thought she maybe was said she was a victim 389 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: of Harvey Weinstein in some former fashion. I think she 390 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: was an actress, and so I think that was kind 391 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: of the background story on that. His first wife was 392 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Junior. Kimberly Gilfoy, right, was his first wife. 393 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: They got divorced, and now the second wife is is 394 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: you know the one who threw in the towel If 395 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: you remember during the debate against Ron DeSantis, that was 396 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: that was a moment where so she. 397 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: Newsom's wife testified against Weinstein in the Los Angeles trial. 398 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: She accused him of rape. She did not personally sue 399 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: him in a civil lawsuit, so pardon me. I want 400 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: to make sure I get this right. But participated in 401 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 2: another lawsuit as an accuser or another case rather as 402 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: an accuser. She gave testimony about this, and yeah, of 403 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: course wein. Weinstein's defense was that everything with her was 404 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: was transactional and consensual. He was not. This is what 405 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: He was not convicted in the case where she was 406 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: a witness, not that she there was a non conviction there. 407 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: She was a witness in the case there was a 408 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: non conviction, and I thought she had sued him civilly, 409 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: but that's not that is not correct. She was a 410 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: witness against him as well. So those are the facts 411 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 2: of that. 412 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: But you know, the Gavin knew some trans angle because 413 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: he got a lot of attention. If you remember when 414 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: he had Charlie kirk On as a guest on his 415 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: podcast and he gave that answer of I get that, 416 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, you can do your evil Keanu Reeves impersonation 417 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: of him. But he tried to address men playing women's 418 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: sports and he said, yeah, I get that, you know, 419 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: and basically tried to dodge around addressing it by saying, 420 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: that's a reasonable perspective to have. I get why a 421 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: parent could have. He didn't actually say he disagreed with it. 422 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: He just said, hey, that's an opinion you could have. 423 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: And now he's saying that he's in favor of there 424 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: being more trans kids. This is I think an awful battle, 425 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: both politically and more for Democrats. We talk about how 426 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: sometimes political and moral are different. 427 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 428 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: Here, I think everyone out there who was saying, hey, 429 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: let's wait, let's let kids develop before we start having 430 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: all these trans surgeries committed on them. For Gavin Newsom 431 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: to be encouraging trans kids, for him to be saying 432 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: that Elon Musk's kid hates him. Uh and uh, I 433 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: just I think we can look look for this to 434 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: become even more of an issue going forward. I think 435 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I think it's going to be 436 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: a mess and uh. And he's going to fight on 437 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: this and transing kids being a good thing. 438 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: He has no I think that if he could walk 439 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: away from that issue, he he would, But he can't 440 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: because he's going to be bludgeoned by and he should be, 441 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: by Republicans on it. But the Democrat left will not 442 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: give up on that issue. They will they will not 443 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: walk away on that issue. And I guess at some 444 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: level it is almost like, you know, climate change has 445 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: really faded so much, the trans sex identity stuff has 446 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: I think replaced that as the religion of choice for 447 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: the religion replacement really for people on the left in 448 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: this country, they feel like there's something Instead of it 449 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: being saving the earth, it's a civil rights strung right, 450 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: it's saving humanity. It's the great humanitarian approach. The tragic 451 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: part about it is well, climate change does a lot 452 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: of damage too, but it's mostly financial and freedom damage. 453 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: They're hurting kids with this stuff. They are doing irreparable 454 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: damage to children, and a lot of doctors and a 455 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: lot of people in the medical field are just too 456 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: cowardly to say with that, what's really going on? Look, 457 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: all you really have to know about this issue? I 458 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: shouldn't say all you have to know, but a really 459 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: good I think Shorthand Clay is the guy who ran 460 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: the Johns Hopkins what they used to call sex change 461 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: surgery clinic. He's pretty well known guy. He's much older 462 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: guy now I think he's still around, but ran it 463 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: for decades. After all that was like, I, this is 464 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: not a good idea, and this is for adults, not 465 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: for children. For adults, it's like, this is not not 466 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: a good idea medically, it's medically unsound. And then had 467 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: to really disappear. He might've even apologize or said, oh, 468 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that or something, But it's just 469 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: because people are psychos about this stuff and they threaten you. 470 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: You get death. Think about this. There are people who 471 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: give you death threats and as many people on the 472 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: right have found this out unfortunately the hard way. Well, 473 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: let's be honest. One of the biggest issues for the 474 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk alleged assassin who's in court today is what 475 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was saying about trans. Yes, and look at 476 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: the shooter in the school in Tennessee and in Minneapolity 477 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: and in Minneapolis. So it's not just threats. I wanted 478 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: to be clear, it's not just threats about the trans issue. 479 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: It is actual violence in the name of pushing this 480 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: really demonic process of putting kids, putting kids through this. 481 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: It's Look, there should be federal laws to prevent them. Oh, 482 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: think about the federal laws that do exist to protect 483 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: kids that are far you we're talking about things like 484 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: tobacco or yes, things that are far less. You know, 485 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: if you smoke a cigarette and not gonna fall over 486 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: and die. I'm not advocating for kids to smoke, but 487 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: you're going to have sex change operation surgery. I they 488 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: can call a gender affirmation all day long. It was 489 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: called sex change surgery until about five minutes ago. 490 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: They need to have some of these kids that are 491 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: deciding as they get older that this shouldn't have been done. 492 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: They need to have class action lawsuits because I think 493 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: juries if you got these kids in front of the 494 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: jury and they said, hey, I was eleven or twelve 495 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: years old, I didn't know what I was doing. I 496 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: was thirteen, I was fourteen, and I permanently sterilized myself. 497 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of these juries could deliver 498 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: verdicts worth hundreds of millions of dollars in damages and 499 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: against some of these doctors and hospitals that have been 500 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: encouraging this. 501 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: And I think it would end almost overnight. 502 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: Because of the risk that they would have going forward 503 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: from these kinds of lawsuits. Because kids can't consent to 504 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, a minor can't consent to all of the 505 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: decisions that they're making. 506 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: So there was I know this is going to seem 507 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: like a digression, but I believe it was. Zia Al 508 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: hak was the president, really the dictator of Pakistan in 509 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: the eighties around the time of the Soviet Afghan War, 510 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: and it was under his regime that there was an 511 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: effort to, if memory serves, to medicalize amputation surgery for crimes, 512 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: or rather to medicalize amputation for crimes by doing it 513 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: as a surgery. So instead I remember you talking about it, 514 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: instead of cutting off your hand for stealing with a 515 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: scimitar or whatever, a hatchet or something, it was Okay, 516 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: we're going to surgically remove it. But a lot of 517 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: the Pakistani doctors at the time were actually Western trained. 518 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: A lot of them were getting their training in the West. 519 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: You know that the people that could conduct those kinds 520 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: of surgeries and there they weren't willing to do it. Yes, 521 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: good for them, but I mean, this is not a 522 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: thing that was actually happening, even though it was a 523 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: policy that was being talked about at one point. There's 524 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: some dispute as to whether you know, they ever were 525 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: really going to intentionally do this or not. But I 526 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: do believe that there are a lot of doctors who would, 527 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: on ethical grounds refuse to do things because their profession 528 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: is supposed to be about healing and helping and do 529 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: no harm is a very good first principle for medicine. 530 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: You're doing harm to a fourteen year old girl that 531 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: you are removing breasts from or giving sterilizing hormones to. 532 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: Hormones are incredibly powerful for your sense of well being, 533 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: for your overall health, for a lot of things. And 534 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: to mess with that clay and not really know where 535 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: it's taking somebody is It's just it's reckless and it's wrong. 536 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: So the fact that Gavin Newsom is firmly on the 537 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: wrong side of this issue is not surprising. And also 538 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: we got to he never said, remember we had that 539 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: interview with Charlie. Actually he never said that he was 540 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: that that's right, he's against the trans thing. He just 541 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: he said something that kind of left it open ended. 542 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: I would also point this, I am looking at some 543 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: of the pictures from the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. 544 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's coincidental, but the tie that he wore in 545 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: his court hearing yesterday is the same colors as the 546 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: trans flag. I don't know. Again, maybe it's coincidental. But 547 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 1: if you google what the trans flag looks like and 548 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: then you look at the tie that he selected for 549 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: his court appearance today, it is the exact same colors. 550 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Now again, maybe maybe they will have maybe they will 551 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: have some element of saying that's a coincidence, but you know, 552 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: you're going to be in public, it seems you know, 553 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I yeah, probably intentional. 554 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: As getting up along the lines of like if you 555 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: happen to have an M and it happened to have 556 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: an S and happened to have a thirteen tattooed on 557 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: your knuckles. I mean, it's technically not proof that you're 558 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: an MS thirteen, but it's kind of proof that you're 559 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: an thirteen, right, I mean, you know, you could make 560 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: the argument that it's some kind of weird and I 561 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: know that they say, oh, is it even you know, 562 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: it's like another letter, you know, it's like the Spanish version. 563 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: Who whatever the point is. Yeah, some at some echelon 564 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: of analysis, the coincidence is far too powerful for it 565 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: to actually be coincidence. You know, we were talking about 566 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: protecting kids and that should stretch all the way down 567 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: to the unborn, to babies and baby's in the womb. 568 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: This is where Preborn comes in. It's that time of 569 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: the year when a lot of people are giving, a 570 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: lot of people are making holiday donations, and if you 571 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: have some money to spare, it don't have to be 572 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: a lot of money. This is a really worthy charity 573 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: that does incredible work. It's very moving. I went to 574 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: one of the preborn clinics myself and spent an afternoon 575 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: there in Hyalia here in Miami, and met with some 576 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: of the moms that had been that had been helped 577 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: by Preborn and met their kids. You know, the little 578 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: girl one of them was like a little five year 579 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: old girl. She was running around the office. And this 580 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: woman told me, she says, if I didn't have Preborn, 581 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: she wouldn't be here today. That's where your dollars are 582 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: going to with Preborn. That's what's going on. Little girl 583 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: running around, little boy running around. 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Has it late Thanksgiving completely thrown you off? 624 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 625 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: I'm still I feel like we got six more weeks 626 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: before Christmas and that is not the game. 627 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's basically two weeks until Christmas right now, So 628 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: get out there and get all your shopping done. But 629 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: if you go and get it done before the end 630 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: of the year, you go to Crocketcoffee dot Com, use 631 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: code book, you get an autograph copy of the book 632 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: and we will get those two you plus you will 633 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: get the delectable taste of crocket coffee, which I would 634 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: bet a lot of people out there are going to 635 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: be needing because there's a lot of holiday parties, a 636 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: lot of late nights, early mornings here in us. 637 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: We're fueled by Crockett right now, need this morning. 638 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: Lots lots of travel going on, lots of kids getting 639 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: up early in the morning for that Christmas morning, and 640 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: maybe you're sleeping a little bit on a bed that's 641 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: not necessarily your normal bed because you're traveling, or you're 642 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: moving everybody around. 643 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 2: The one Miss Clay for the holiday party last night. 644 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 2: The one thing that I really was like, oh man, 645 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: we had a special little baby speed Christmas outfit all well, 646 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: Carrie obviously had picked this out and he looked so 647 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: cute and so Christmasy, like a little Santa's elf basically, 648 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: and like he had like little Christmas leader hozen on 649 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: basic and we brought him to the party and he 650 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: was so cute. And then as soon as the noise 651 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: and everything else, man, he was just hard pass. He 652 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: was not too many people, too much noise. He was 653 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: ready to bail. He was done. We got him to 654 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: the threshold of the party and he threw a tantrum 655 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: like I haven't seen in a while, and I was like, 656 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: all right, all right, you know, he hit the eject button. 657 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: We tried some people not made for partying, at least 658 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: not an eight months old. So we're just to be clear. 659 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: We weren't going to keep him at the point. We 660 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: just wanted to do one round. Soever we could take 661 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: a photo of him looking all cute, but anyways, he 662 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: didn't the last His royal chunkiness has made a full recovery. 663 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 2: He's doing fun in Katie, Texas. Got a Gavin Newsom 664 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 2: take for us. Will what you got? Hey, guys, another 665 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: show and I know Russ is a smile on you 666 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: guys with the great work y'all doing for the conservative movements. 667 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 668 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. I wanted I wanted to make an observation. 669 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: Can we please refer to Gavin Newscomb go forward? 670 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: Is greasy? Uh, Gavin McK newscomb, because he reminds me. 671 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 2: His personality reminds me a lot of Shooting McGavin from 672 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: Happy Kilmore. You remember how Happy Fillmore, I mean shooting 673 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 2: McGavin treated his fans. He said, go back to your shanties. 674 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: You know when he got frustrated with him. 675 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: If they happy to Gilmore two just came out. I 676 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 1: didn't think it was that bad. A lot of people 677 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: disagreed with me, but I do love that shooting. McGavin 678 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Newsome combot