1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,588 Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradioyning Football look Alive. Kyle, Welcome to Good 3 00:00:26,628 --> 00:00:29,908 Speaker 1: Morning Football here live in New York City, Thursday, April fourteenth. 4 00:00:29,948 --> 00:00:32,668 Speaker 1: My name is Kadam was Peter Schrager, Super Bowl Champion, 5 00:00:32,748 --> 00:00:37,268 Speaker 1: Michael Robinson, and Kyle Brant. The babysitter is kind of 6 00:00:37,348 --> 00:00:41,108 Speaker 1: what's going on? Tell everybody? I was told, sorry, oh no, 7 00:00:41,148 --> 00:00:44,468 Speaker 1: it's okay. My eight year old son is here. My son, Calvin, 8 00:00:44,508 --> 00:00:46,628 Speaker 1: who you know it was grown up with the show 9 00:00:47,028 --> 00:00:49,668 Speaker 1: and is here visiting the set today. Maybe he'll come on. 10 00:00:49,908 --> 00:00:52,268 Speaker 1: He has six jerseys that he owns as NFL players. 11 00:00:52,628 --> 00:00:54,028 Speaker 1: I said, which one do you want to wear tomorrow 12 00:00:54,068 --> 00:00:56,548 Speaker 1: in the show, and he said duh, And then he answered, 13 00:00:56,588 --> 00:00:57,868 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell us one he wore. But 14 00:00:57,908 --> 00:00:59,508 Speaker 1: he's got some really good He has to come out here. 15 00:00:59,508 --> 00:01:00,908 Speaker 1: I think last time he came on set, he was 16 00:01:00,948 --> 00:01:03,108 Speaker 1: like crawling under the table as a telegraph. He's fully 17 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:04,908 Speaker 1: eight years. Last time he was on the show is 18 00:01:04,948 --> 00:01:08,388 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving twenty seventeen. Okay, and here we are now twenty 19 00:01:08,468 --> 00:01:11,388 Speaker 1: twenty two. I love us. He's gonna pick this spring 20 00:01:11,428 --> 00:01:13,268 Speaker 1: break bring some to work day, daddy. I came he 21 00:01:13,348 --> 00:01:15,188 Speaker 1: to go to work? Or is this wife saying I've 22 00:01:15,188 --> 00:01:17,828 Speaker 1: got two kids and they're off in school and please 23 00:01:17,868 --> 00:01:19,828 Speaker 1: take one of them a little column. I have no 24 00:01:19,868 --> 00:01:22,708 Speaker 1: idea what you mean. Peter Calvin was giving a choice 25 00:01:22,748 --> 00:01:24,988 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, Thursday morning, do you want to go to 26 00:01:25,028 --> 00:01:27,108 Speaker 1: the Bronx Zoo with your sister and your mom or 27 00:01:27,148 --> 00:01:28,548 Speaker 1: do you want to go to work with your dad? 28 00:01:28,668 --> 00:01:32,988 Speaker 1: He's a good morning football grab launch yeah, right early 29 00:01:33,108 --> 00:01:35,708 Speaker 1: and kell you are back there somewhere, So say it 30 00:01:35,788 --> 00:01:37,428 Speaker 1: with us as you eat cinnamon toast crunch and you 31 00:01:37,428 --> 00:01:39,148 Speaker 1: eat my candy stash that I will pick you during 32 00:01:39,148 --> 00:01:42,868 Speaker 1: the commercial break. Bla bla bla blas are here in 33 00:01:42,908 --> 00:01:45,708 Speaker 1: the studio all right. After the Browns traded for Deshaun Watson, 34 00:01:45,708 --> 00:01:48,148 Speaker 1: here's where we go, and of course they gave him 35 00:01:48,148 --> 00:01:51,508 Speaker 1: that whopping five year, two hundred and thirty million dollar contract, 36 00:01:51,548 --> 00:01:55,228 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfold's future became a massive question mark. Well. Baker 37 00:01:55,308 --> 00:01:58,268 Speaker 1: spoke on the y n K podcast about what went 38 00:01:58,308 --> 00:02:01,068 Speaker 1: down to Cleveland, how it went down, how it feels, 39 00:02:01,108 --> 00:02:03,188 Speaker 1: and also where he might play next. Take a listen. 40 00:02:04,948 --> 00:02:08,108 Speaker 1: I feel disrespected because I was told one thing and 41 00:02:08,148 --> 00:02:10,188 Speaker 1: they completed another. That's what I'm in the middle of 42 00:02:10,308 --> 00:02:13,108 Speaker 1: right now. You know what, Okay, I got I got 43 00:02:13,108 --> 00:02:15,548 Speaker 1: my taste of it because I've had four different head 44 00:02:15,588 --> 00:02:17,708 Speaker 1: coaches in four years, a bunch of different coordinators. I've 45 00:02:17,748 --> 00:02:23,588 Speaker 1: had talk about the highs. They always come back, They 46 00:02:23,588 --> 00:02:26,388 Speaker 1: always come back. Do you have any idea where you're 47 00:02:26,388 --> 00:02:31,148 Speaker 1: gonna land? Oh man, this would have been about a 48 00:02:31,188 --> 00:02:36,548 Speaker 1: week and a half ago. I would have said Indianapolis, 49 00:02:34,268 --> 00:02:41,188 Speaker 1: um Seattle, I mean, probably the most likely option. But 50 00:02:41,308 --> 00:02:49,628 Speaker 1: even then, anyway, there's a lot. There's a lot here 51 00:02:49,868 --> 00:02:52,668 Speaker 1: to dig into. But let's start with this thing. Should 52 00:02:52,788 --> 00:02:56,268 Speaker 1: Baker may feel Mayfield feel the sort of disrespect that 53 00:02:56,268 --> 00:02:58,468 Speaker 1: he's talking about Kyle, and we should mention the Mike 54 00:02:58,468 --> 00:03:01,108 Speaker 1: Grefolo did report that the Browns have said that they 55 00:03:01,188 --> 00:03:05,148 Speaker 1: did give Baker the information to keep him in because 56 00:03:05,188 --> 00:03:08,588 Speaker 1: he stopped talking you is it over? I just I'm 57 00:03:08,628 --> 00:03:12,308 Speaker 1: a Baker enthusiast, and I cringed this entire thing. You're Baker, 58 00:03:12,468 --> 00:03:14,988 Speaker 1: You're sitting there, You're you're a dead man walking on 59 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:18,188 Speaker 1: the Browns. You're you're looking for another team. In another chapter, 60 00:03:18,788 --> 00:03:22,588 Speaker 1: this is the time to go for ninety minutes on 61 00:03:22,708 --> 00:03:25,988 Speaker 1: the You Never Know podcast, because think about this. I mean, 62 00:03:25,988 --> 00:03:27,468 Speaker 1: I know, when you Never Know calls, you got to 63 00:03:27,508 --> 00:03:32,508 Speaker 1: say yes. But maybe if you're not, You're Seattle, You're Carolina, 64 00:03:32,668 --> 00:03:34,788 Speaker 1: and you're like, we're thinking about it. We're thinking about it. 65 00:03:34,788 --> 00:03:36,508 Speaker 1: We like Baker were like, and then you just see 66 00:03:36,548 --> 00:03:38,508 Speaker 1: this and you're like, this is worth it. We want 67 00:03:38,508 --> 00:03:41,868 Speaker 1: to do this. This seems like a real pain. I 68 00:03:41,908 --> 00:03:43,948 Speaker 1: feel like you gotta be careful. You might tuck yourself 69 00:03:43,948 --> 00:03:45,828 Speaker 1: out of a backup job right now, Like who is 70 00:03:45,868 --> 00:03:47,948 Speaker 1: knocking down the doormack? We got to bring him in 71 00:03:48,548 --> 00:03:51,708 Speaker 1: and I have pounded this table. Baker was hurt last year, 72 00:03:51,748 --> 00:03:54,468 Speaker 1: and I love him and since Oklahoma, Baker's from the 73 00:03:54,508 --> 00:03:56,068 Speaker 1: hip and that's what I like about him. And he's 74 00:03:56,108 --> 00:03:58,228 Speaker 1: sort of like a dollar store farm and he's gonna 75 00:03:58,268 --> 00:04:00,668 Speaker 1: be Baker. The problem is when he does that and 76 00:04:00,708 --> 00:04:02,628 Speaker 1: he does a shirtless photo shoot with the cell phone 77 00:04:02,628 --> 00:04:05,108 Speaker 1: and he and he and he's doing this and commercials 78 00:04:05,148 --> 00:04:08,508 Speaker 1: and he's talking the ball is always great and Oklahoma 79 00:04:08,628 --> 00:04:10,588 Speaker 1: was great. He brings the Cleveland Browns back from hell, 80 00:04:10,588 --> 00:04:12,908 Speaker 1: and when's the playoffamme? The ball's not great now, it's 81 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:15,308 Speaker 1: not great at all. And he's even said it's up 82 00:04:15,348 --> 00:04:17,388 Speaker 1: and down and up and down, and I just can't 83 00:04:17,428 --> 00:04:19,908 Speaker 1: believe that he stood there. And then the tackiest thing 84 00:04:19,908 --> 00:04:22,828 Speaker 1: of all was real fans, know me, real fans, and 85 00:04:22,828 --> 00:04:27,068 Speaker 1: then you played like a fifty year old lame pro athlete. 86 00:04:27,068 --> 00:04:29,548 Speaker 1: Angle of I would go to their cubicles and boo 87 00:04:29,588 --> 00:04:32,028 Speaker 1: them and it'd be hilarious. It's not hilarious. It's really lame. 88 00:04:32,308 --> 00:04:34,948 Speaker 1: It's not it's not apples to apples whatsoever. And I 89 00:04:34,948 --> 00:04:36,548 Speaker 1: feel like you lost some credibility. And I did a 90 00:04:36,548 --> 00:04:40,468 Speaker 1: little scan about twenty minutes ago. Baker's getting annihilated on 91 00:04:40,548 --> 00:04:43,388 Speaker 1: Cleveland radio this morning, annihilated and those were his people, 92 00:04:43,548 --> 00:04:45,388 Speaker 1: those those people in the cheap seat. So I like 93 00:04:45,468 --> 00:04:47,788 Speaker 1: Baker and I relate to Baker. I don't know, this 94 00:04:47,868 --> 00:04:50,268 Speaker 1: is a tough morning for me because I really liked 95 00:04:50,268 --> 00:04:52,588 Speaker 1: how Baker's conducted himself throughout the years, for the ups 96 00:04:52,628 --> 00:04:54,588 Speaker 1: and downs. And I mean, I just look at the 97 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:57,268 Speaker 1: dogs lying there saying nothing is what Baker should be 98 00:04:57,348 --> 00:04:59,308 Speaker 1: doing right now, and hopefully one of these teams give 99 00:04:59,308 --> 00:05:03,348 Speaker 1: another shot. I'm frustrating the football is not great, and 100 00:05:03,388 --> 00:05:05,588 Speaker 1: the talking and the talk and I'm so disrespected. Here's 101 00:05:05,588 --> 00:05:07,708 Speaker 1: my Instagram post and blah blah blah, it's too much. 102 00:05:07,788 --> 00:05:09,748 Speaker 1: I can't keep up. He went where I can't follow him. 103 00:05:09,748 --> 00:05:11,948 Speaker 1: I can't do it. Yeah, and we saw when he 104 00:05:12,148 --> 00:05:14,308 Speaker 1: when he demanded a trade once they were even interested 105 00:05:14,308 --> 00:05:16,828 Speaker 1: in Watson. I think the window was open that Baker. 106 00:05:17,388 --> 00:05:19,788 Speaker 1: This is a season of discontent and it wasn't going 107 00:05:19,828 --> 00:05:23,948 Speaker 1: to end there, all right, all motions aside, Strategically you 108 00:05:24,028 --> 00:05:26,668 Speaker 1: hit it. I don't know if I was managing Baker 109 00:05:26,788 --> 00:05:28,508 Speaker 1: right now, or if I was doing his public relations, 110 00:05:28,548 --> 00:05:29,868 Speaker 1: or if I was an agent, I would say that 111 00:05:29,868 --> 00:05:31,908 Speaker 1: this is the best time for this. Like he's still 112 00:05:32,028 --> 00:05:34,748 Speaker 1: unemployed technically, because we don't think he's gonna be with 113 00:05:34,748 --> 00:05:38,348 Speaker 1: with Cleveland and he's got to find a new suitor still. 114 00:05:38,388 --> 00:05:40,988 Speaker 1: And to your point, Kyle, you know, if it's like, 115 00:05:41,028 --> 00:05:43,028 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna bring Baker on, he's got a 116 00:05:43,068 --> 00:05:44,708 Speaker 1: chip on a shoulder. We oh, he's love that, But 117 00:05:45,028 --> 00:05:48,068 Speaker 1: that he's putting his employers right now on public display, 118 00:05:48,108 --> 00:05:51,748 Speaker 1: like that's not what we're all looking for necessarily. I 119 00:05:51,828 --> 00:05:53,788 Speaker 1: feel for Baker. I do. He's got every right to 120 00:05:53,828 --> 00:05:56,508 Speaker 1: feel disrespected. This sucks. But when you're a quarterback, you're 121 00:05:56,508 --> 00:05:59,828 Speaker 1: one of thirty two, and time and time again they 122 00:05:59,868 --> 00:06:04,348 Speaker 1: will replace you, like Joe Montana was replaced, True blood 123 00:06:04,428 --> 00:06:07,748 Speaker 1: so was replaced, and those guys had real arguments to men. 124 00:06:08,428 --> 00:06:11,028 Speaker 1: Drew Bloodsoe was the highest paid quarterback in football and 125 00:06:11,068 --> 00:06:13,708 Speaker 1: went down with an injury, fought back nobly, and then 126 00:06:13,828 --> 00:06:16,828 Speaker 1: was traded in the off season like it happens. And 127 00:06:17,268 --> 00:06:19,028 Speaker 1: I know Baker didn't like how it went down. I 128 00:06:19,068 --> 00:06:20,868 Speaker 1: know he's upset right now. But I just would have 129 00:06:20,868 --> 00:06:23,348 Speaker 1: guided him and said to put it out there so 130 00:06:23,428 --> 00:06:25,628 Speaker 1: publicly on what's it called that you never know? Pod 131 00:06:25,788 --> 00:06:28,828 Speaker 1: you never know, You put yourself up there for subject 132 00:06:28,908 --> 00:06:31,388 Speaker 1: of criticism, when I would have maybe waited till he 133 00:06:31,468 --> 00:06:34,308 Speaker 1: got to the next destination. First find your place, make 134 00:06:34,348 --> 00:06:37,108 Speaker 1: sure you're happy. Let's meet that coach instead of having 135 00:06:37,148 --> 00:06:39,828 Speaker 1: to do it publicly. And now that coach is like Baker, 136 00:06:39,828 --> 00:06:41,708 Speaker 1: apples are okay. Maybe I'll take the third round guy 137 00:06:41,748 --> 00:06:43,548 Speaker 1: and say I can build it on him as my backroom. 138 00:06:43,588 --> 00:06:47,308 Speaker 1: Instant quarterbacks are finally being evaluated like every other position 139 00:06:47,428 --> 00:06:51,308 Speaker 1: on an annually basis because the first rounders are cheap. 140 00:06:51,508 --> 00:06:53,668 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, that's the way it is to 141 00:06:53,748 --> 00:06:57,188 Speaker 1: get the extra fifth year option. And so it's sometimes 142 00:06:57,188 --> 00:07:00,788 Speaker 1: it's in a team's advantage to turn the page on 143 00:07:00,868 --> 00:07:02,548 Speaker 1: a guy on a first round on a first round 144 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:04,868 Speaker 1: picking and try to get better at that position. When 145 00:07:04,868 --> 00:07:07,468 Speaker 1: you have a guy like de Shaun Watson, you know, 146 00:07:07,748 --> 00:07:11,308 Speaker 1: possibly a guy that you can bring into your organization. Yes, 147 00:07:11,388 --> 00:07:13,788 Speaker 1: you do everything you can to do it. And then again, kay, 148 00:07:13,868 --> 00:07:16,548 Speaker 1: you said Mike girl follow he said they were they 149 00:07:16,548 --> 00:07:22,508 Speaker 1: were informing him the whole time. It's conflicting reports. Okay, Um, look, 150 00:07:22,948 --> 00:07:24,788 Speaker 1: I looked at Baker as a guy who's very aware 151 00:07:24,828 --> 00:07:27,668 Speaker 1: of the situation. Uh. To your point, Peter, yes he 152 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:31,028 Speaker 1: should feel disrespected, but again, I was a fullback. I played, 153 00:07:31,228 --> 00:07:32,868 Speaker 1: I played, I was a role player. I was disrespected 154 00:07:32,908 --> 00:07:34,988 Speaker 1: every single year, and then I played. I felt like 155 00:07:35,028 --> 00:07:38,548 Speaker 1: it and so so so welcome to the National Football League, Baker. 156 00:07:38,988 --> 00:07:42,668 Speaker 1: And again, people will put up with you if you're 157 00:07:42,708 --> 00:07:45,868 Speaker 1: playing great, if you're a great player. Uh. And I 158 00:07:45,908 --> 00:07:48,188 Speaker 1: said it last year when Baker's when all the reports 159 00:07:48,228 --> 00:07:49,868 Speaker 1: came out, I think it was after week two or 160 00:07:49,868 --> 00:07:51,548 Speaker 1: week three, and Baker even said this, man, I was 161 00:07:51,628 --> 00:07:54,228 Speaker 1: hurt my elbow really, you know, my my arm could, 162 00:07:54,468 --> 00:07:56,428 Speaker 1: couldn't be in the in the shoulders socket, all of 163 00:07:56,428 --> 00:07:59,068 Speaker 1: those things. You should not have went out there and played. 164 00:07:59,748 --> 00:08:01,948 Speaker 1: At least you would have had an excuse. You should 165 00:08:01,988 --> 00:08:03,828 Speaker 1: not have went out there and played. Quite frankly, you 166 00:08:03,868 --> 00:08:05,468 Speaker 1: should have out on the bench. You should have let 167 00:08:05,548 --> 00:08:08,268 Speaker 1: Case Kingdom go out there, and you should have got 168 00:08:08,348 --> 00:08:10,628 Speaker 1: gotten all the way healthy. And even when I look 169 00:08:10,668 --> 00:08:13,828 Speaker 1: at Baker healthy, but I mean Baker Baker Mayfield, when 170 00:08:13,828 --> 00:08:18,188 Speaker 1: he's all the way healthy, is he truly an elite quarterback? 171 00:08:18,668 --> 00:08:22,348 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he is. He talked about 172 00:08:22,388 --> 00:08:25,268 Speaker 1: all the change like it wasn't his fault. Oh, I 173 00:08:25,348 --> 00:08:29,148 Speaker 1: have four head coaches. All this change had this ups 174 00:08:29,188 --> 00:08:32,588 Speaker 1: and down as well. If you were playing well, maybe 175 00:08:32,628 --> 00:08:35,188 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had four head comps. Never that, never 176 00:08:35,228 --> 00:08:37,388 Speaker 1: put it that. You get what I'm saying. You could 177 00:08:37,388 --> 00:08:39,428 Speaker 1: have saved the job. You could have saved the job. 178 00:08:39,508 --> 00:08:43,548 Speaker 1: Why cast the blame out on other people? And until 179 00:08:43,588 --> 00:08:46,988 Speaker 1: you guys's point that other teams are looking at this. 180 00:08:47,988 --> 00:08:51,548 Speaker 1: And then when he said, well maybe Seattle, does he 181 00:08:51,628 --> 00:08:53,588 Speaker 1: think he's gonna start somewhere in this league next year? 182 00:08:54,308 --> 00:08:56,308 Speaker 1: I don't. I think a lot of people did, But 183 00:08:56,388 --> 00:08:59,068 Speaker 1: I remember when this, you know, we had a full 184 00:08:59,068 --> 00:09:00,988 Speaker 1: screen of Baker and Matt Ryan and I said, what 185 00:09:01,108 --> 00:09:02,988 Speaker 1: is the market for these two? I'm not sure Baker 186 00:09:02,988 --> 00:09:05,468 Speaker 1: Mayfield is a starter in the National Football League. There's 187 00:09:05,508 --> 00:09:08,188 Speaker 1: this how much nonsense will I put up with as 188 00:09:08,188 --> 00:09:10,668 Speaker 1: a front office and the team compared to how talented 189 00:09:10,708 --> 00:09:12,908 Speaker 1: you are, which is exactly you're saying. There's a threshold. 190 00:09:13,068 --> 00:09:14,948 Speaker 1: Are you really good? Are you elite? I'll put up 191 00:09:14,948 --> 00:09:16,748 Speaker 1: with it all. Look at the replacement for him, but 192 00:09:16,828 --> 00:09:18,788 Speaker 1: we can't be So there's a lot going on with 193 00:09:18,828 --> 00:09:21,388 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. I'm sure some of that disrespect Baker is 194 00:09:21,388 --> 00:09:23,788 Speaker 1: feeling is that this person with all of these things, 195 00:09:23,828 --> 00:09:26,188 Speaker 1: who's accused of what he's accused of, is coming in 196 00:09:26,268 --> 00:09:28,828 Speaker 1: here and getting this job. Granted, he's an elite player. 197 00:09:28,828 --> 00:09:30,828 Speaker 1: If we leave it to the exs and news. Yeah, 198 00:09:30,828 --> 00:09:33,228 Speaker 1: again again, it's just accusations that I don't I don't 199 00:09:33,228 --> 00:09:35,108 Speaker 1: even like to get into that whole discussion because you 200 00:09:35,148 --> 00:09:38,348 Speaker 1: get in trouble with even you know, get into those discussions. 201 00:09:38,388 --> 00:09:41,828 Speaker 1: But an elite player, he's not guilty of anything, you 202 00:09:41,868 --> 00:09:44,588 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Legally, Okay, he's an elite player 203 00:09:44,828 --> 00:09:48,108 Speaker 1: and he can upgrade the position, Kevin Stefanski if they 204 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,428 Speaker 1: if you keep a Baker Mayfield and Baker Mayfield still 205 00:09:51,468 --> 00:09:53,828 Speaker 1: plays like he's been playing and you lose your job, 206 00:09:54,108 --> 00:09:57,308 Speaker 1: then what so I think it's the responsibility of the 207 00:09:57,348 --> 00:10:01,308 Speaker 1: Browns organization to evaluate that that position again, Baker, at 208 00:10:01,308 --> 00:10:04,148 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you haven't played well, and 209 00:10:04,388 --> 00:10:07,108 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing in the national spotlight a guy 210 00:10:07,508 --> 00:10:10,828 Speaker 1: who's being humble. Mm. A lot of times these things 211 00:10:10,828 --> 00:10:13,268 Speaker 1: happen behind closed doors. A lot of fans don't see it. 212 00:10:13,628 --> 00:10:15,708 Speaker 1: A lot of you know what I mean until your point, 213 00:10:15,788 --> 00:10:18,668 Speaker 1: k He's a guy that's always spoken, He's a guy 214 00:10:18,668 --> 00:10:21,108 Speaker 1: that's always been on social media. That that's the generation 215 00:10:21,148 --> 00:10:23,828 Speaker 1: of our athletes. We can't be happy when they speak 216 00:10:24,228 --> 00:10:26,468 Speaker 1: about certain things and unhappy when they speak about it. 217 00:10:26,468 --> 00:10:28,428 Speaker 1: I'm okay with them talking. Just know what the hell 218 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:30,908 Speaker 1: you're saying about your mouth. And I don't think that 219 00:10:31,028 --> 00:10:34,988 Speaker 1: he was coached before that interview that we saw you, 220 00:10:35,108 --> 00:10:38,388 Speaker 1: but it's the conflation of nonsense like the fact that 221 00:10:38,468 --> 00:10:40,748 Speaker 1: he's somehow lost you today is interesting to me because 222 00:10:40,788 --> 00:10:43,948 Speaker 1: I don't granted Deshaun Watson and to find his reality, 223 00:10:43,988 --> 00:10:47,388 Speaker 1: that's his reality. Yeah, Deshaun Watson an upgrade objectively, that's 224 00:10:47,468 --> 00:10:50,228 Speaker 1: reality over Baker Mayfield trades. But do they overhaul this 225 00:10:50,348 --> 00:10:53,748 Speaker 1: whole thing if it isn't for the years of nonsense, 226 00:10:53,788 --> 00:10:56,868 Speaker 1: the odell, the telling reporters they're asking questions, is clickbait? 227 00:10:56,908 --> 00:10:59,508 Speaker 1: The firing backup critics that he's done over the years. 228 00:10:59,588 --> 00:11:02,748 Speaker 1: Do they make this move? We always talk about it 229 00:11:02,748 --> 00:11:05,828 Speaker 1: like he doesn't do that. The word undeniable, like, you know, 230 00:11:05,908 --> 00:11:08,308 Speaker 1: no one questions whether Josh Allen is the quarterback or 231 00:11:08,308 --> 00:11:10,348 Speaker 1: the Bills for the future. Right, there was a doubt. 232 00:11:10,468 --> 00:11:14,148 Speaker 1: And when this quarterback like the Shawn Watson hits the 233 00:11:14,188 --> 00:11:16,388 Speaker 1: market and you hear that the Saints, the Panthers, the Falcons, 234 00:11:16,668 --> 00:11:19,788 Speaker 1: there are conversations in every building like do we get involved? 235 00:11:19,828 --> 00:11:21,828 Speaker 1: Do we want to get involved? And obviously there are 236 00:11:21,828 --> 00:11:24,228 Speaker 1: conversations in Cleveland they're like, that's a significant upgrade from 237 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:26,348 Speaker 1: what we have. I would add, you know, Baker Mayfield, 238 00:11:26,348 --> 00:11:28,068 Speaker 1: we always talk about this chip on the shoulder and 239 00:11:28,068 --> 00:11:31,148 Speaker 1: this underdog mentality. Bicker Mayfield was a top you know 240 00:11:31,308 --> 00:11:33,588 Speaker 1: quarterback in college. He was a Heisman Trophy winner, he 241 00:11:33,588 --> 00:11:36,148 Speaker 1: was a number one overall pick. To your point, it's 242 00:11:36,188 --> 00:11:37,788 Speaker 1: what a lot of people in the NFL have dealt 243 00:11:37,828 --> 00:11:40,268 Speaker 1: with and that's real chip, that's real. So like Baker, Now, 244 00:11:40,268 --> 00:11:42,748 Speaker 1: if he's ever had that dog mentality, it's now that 245 00:11:42,748 --> 00:11:44,628 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a home and that people are doubting 246 00:11:44,708 --> 00:11:47,508 Speaker 1: him and punking him on national television. So now is 247 00:11:47,548 --> 00:11:48,988 Speaker 1: the time I've got to see that real chip on 248 00:11:48,988 --> 00:11:50,588 Speaker 1: his shoulder. Not when you're a number one overall pick 249 00:11:50,628 --> 00:11:52,388 Speaker 1: and being paid the number one overall pick, and I 250 00:11:52,428 --> 00:11:54,028 Speaker 1: think they're disrespect I have no doubt that there were 251 00:11:54,028 --> 00:11:55,668 Speaker 1: some slippery things that went on with the Browns in 252 00:11:55,748 --> 00:11:57,588 Speaker 1: terms of them talking to Deshaun Watson and whatever they 253 00:11:57,628 --> 00:12:00,028 Speaker 1: said to Baker Mayfield. But I don't really care. Like 254 00:12:00,748 --> 00:12:03,188 Speaker 1: this is we are fully in the cutthroat era with 255 00:12:03,188 --> 00:12:04,988 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. He is not the first, he is not 256 00:12:05,028 --> 00:12:07,108 Speaker 1: the last. People are looking around and saying, it is 257 00:12:07,148 --> 00:12:08,828 Speaker 1: our guy, great, do we love him? We get the 258 00:12:08,828 --> 00:12:11,308 Speaker 1: hell out of here, Jared Goff, get out of here. 259 00:12:11,308 --> 00:12:13,268 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the super Bowl. The Carson Wentz 260 00:12:13,308 --> 00:12:16,548 Speaker 1: thing two different times. Sam Darnold with the Jet seven 261 00:12:16,588 --> 00:12:19,068 Speaker 1: lower level guys, I think they looked around and they said, Baker, 262 00:12:19,148 --> 00:12:20,788 Speaker 1: this is pro football. I'm sorry there's a guy out 263 00:12:20,828 --> 00:12:22,748 Speaker 1: there who is way better than you, and we don't 264 00:12:22,788 --> 00:12:24,668 Speaker 1: love you. We're going to him, and like, you're not 265 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:26,588 Speaker 1: in college anymore, dude, this is the way you got 266 00:12:26,588 --> 00:12:28,428 Speaker 1: to upgrade the quarterback position or you're gonna be in 267 00:12:28,468 --> 00:12:31,548 Speaker 1: the top ten to draft. I don't I have no 268 00:12:31,588 --> 00:12:33,108 Speaker 1: doubt that Browns were a little slippery with this and 269 00:12:33,628 --> 00:12:36,548 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we transparent, you're not truly transparent. 270 00:12:36,708 --> 00:12:38,628 Speaker 1: I think that they probably told Baker some things that 271 00:12:39,068 --> 00:12:41,188 Speaker 1: weren't true, and they deceived them a little bit. But 272 00:12:41,268 --> 00:12:43,588 Speaker 1: you know what, when there's a better quarterback out there, 273 00:12:43,708 --> 00:12:45,588 Speaker 1: you go get him in this era and this is 274 00:12:45,628 --> 00:12:49,468 Speaker 1: gonna happen again. And he also said, how do you 275 00:12:49,588 --> 00:12:54,268 Speaker 1: motivate guys who are already paid? That's the trick. That's 276 00:12:54,308 --> 00:12:58,068 Speaker 1: what franchise quarterbacks get paid to do, and to how 277 00:12:58,108 --> 00:13:01,348 Speaker 1: you motivate them. You go out there, you work hard, 278 00:13:02,268 --> 00:13:05,708 Speaker 1: you play great in games, you win games, you make 279 00:13:05,748 --> 00:13:07,828 Speaker 1: everybody around you better. I can't when I look over 280 00:13:07,868 --> 00:13:09,788 Speaker 1: the last few years, I can't sit here and say 281 00:13:09,908 --> 00:13:13,588 Speaker 1: that we've seen Baker Mayfield do that. I'm gonna go 282 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,108 Speaker 1: back to you here for a second. There is a 283 00:13:15,148 --> 00:13:17,628 Speaker 1: way of handling it though, right, like when you're saying 284 00:13:17,708 --> 00:13:20,668 Speaker 1: it's who cares, it's it's the NFL and the cutthroat business. 285 00:13:20,908 --> 00:13:23,308 Speaker 1: I look at San Francisco and granted it was drafting 286 00:13:23,308 --> 00:13:25,868 Speaker 1: a guy, not bringing a guy in, but the way 287 00:13:25,908 --> 00:13:28,428 Speaker 1: they handled Trey Lance, like Jimmy Garoppolo knew that the 288 00:13:28,588 --> 00:13:31,268 Speaker 1: entire time they were in lockstep. The communication was there, 289 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:32,828 Speaker 1: we can talk to Jordan Love, we can talk to 290 00:13:32,868 --> 00:13:35,188 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garppolo, and the Patriots went that to to Tom Brady. 291 00:13:35,268 --> 00:13:38,668 Speaker 1: But Jimmy's responses was the great thing. That's how much 292 00:13:38,668 --> 00:13:43,148 Speaker 1: of that is predicated on Lynch and Shanahan and all 293 00:13:43,188 --> 00:13:46,868 Speaker 1: of them being up like, being upfront, handling it the 294 00:13:46,988 --> 00:13:50,428 Speaker 1: right way. So if the Browns weren't fully transparent about things, 295 00:13:50,508 --> 00:13:52,148 Speaker 1: I do think he has a reason and a right 296 00:13:52,148 --> 00:13:55,108 Speaker 1: to be offended by that, because there's clearly examples of 297 00:13:55,388 --> 00:13:57,148 Speaker 1: this is how to do it, and it works in 298 00:13:57,188 --> 00:13:59,868 Speaker 1: a cutthroat business. Jimmy still knows what them. I'm not comparing, 299 00:14:00,028 --> 00:14:02,868 Speaker 1: you know, the personalities of the reactions, but that messaging 300 00:14:02,908 --> 00:14:04,908 Speaker 1: communication all we've seen over the past a couple years. 301 00:14:04,948 --> 00:14:07,668 Speaker 1: How important that is. I don't know if if Shanahan 302 00:14:07,708 --> 00:14:09,828 Speaker 1: and Lynch do that or not do that. I think 303 00:14:09,908 --> 00:14:11,708 Speaker 1: they have the luxury of knowing they have a quarterback 304 00:14:11,748 --> 00:14:13,428 Speaker 1: in Jimmy who would not say crap if you had 305 00:14:13,468 --> 00:14:16,148 Speaker 1: a mouthful, Andy Reid, Andy Reen drafted Patrick Mahomes. Alex 306 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:20,228 Speaker 1: Smith says okay, yeah, whatever, you're like, he's gonna tell us. 307 00:14:20,268 --> 00:14:23,788 Speaker 1: And if said he knew, who said knew what? I 308 00:14:23,828 --> 00:14:26,028 Speaker 1: think Jimmy Garoppol has come and said he said the 309 00:14:26,468 --> 00:14:28,548 Speaker 1: two first round picks when he found yeah, right, that's 310 00:14:28,588 --> 00:14:30,988 Speaker 1: when he found out. Yeah, and they are on the 311 00:14:30,988 --> 00:14:33,228 Speaker 1: phone they pull off that trade. Everyone was shocked. It's like, oh, well, 312 00:14:33,268 --> 00:14:36,508 Speaker 1: you're not doing that for alignment. Yeah, I don't know. 313 00:14:36,548 --> 00:14:39,348 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's the way you hand There 314 00:14:39,428 --> 00:14:41,068 Speaker 1: is a way to handle it. As the team side. 315 00:14:41,308 --> 00:14:42,628 Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, I think this is what's going 316 00:14:42,668 --> 00:14:45,348 Speaker 1: to happen. You know, look, sit down with trade. It happens. 317 00:14:45,468 --> 00:14:47,108 Speaker 1: He's saying that didn't happen. The Browns are saying that 318 00:14:47,148 --> 00:14:49,228 Speaker 1: to happen. And if it happens, to your point, if 319 00:14:49,228 --> 00:14:50,668 Speaker 1: it happens, if you're gonna handle it that way for 320 00:14:50,748 --> 00:14:53,628 Speaker 1: the quarterback, all fifty three guys need to be cut. 321 00:14:53,668 --> 00:14:56,828 Speaker 1: The same way. Everybody needs to be handled with kid gloves. 322 00:14:56,988 --> 00:14:59,828 Speaker 1: Everybody needs to you know, behind closed doors and no't 323 00:14:59,868 --> 00:15:03,028 Speaker 1: just release that Mike rob got and everything needs to 324 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:06,228 Speaker 1: be handled that way. If not, then yeah, football, I 325 00:15:06,268 --> 00:15:09,588 Speaker 1: mean quarterbacks are still football players. Got a lot going 326 00:15:09,628 --> 00:15:11,868 Speaker 1: on here on Good Morning Football This Morning, Josh Allen, 327 00:15:11,908 --> 00:15:15,068 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Those are slaying down selections in their drafts. Obviously, 328 00:15:15,108 --> 00:15:19,268 Speaker 1: what were they saying online trades when those picks actually happened? 329 00:15:19,428 --> 00:15:20,948 Speaker 1: You had a fun segment kill it up? Does it 330 00:15:21,028 --> 00:15:23,468 Speaker 1: have the best segment? Name? And Jim if history might 331 00:15:23,908 --> 00:15:26,588 Speaker 1: have them to do with Mike Robinson's favorite video game. Ever, 332 00:15:31,308 --> 00:15:34,108 Speaker 1: there's an age old adage in the corporate world that 333 00:15:34,228 --> 00:15:36,908 Speaker 1: if you're thinking you want to send a quick angry 334 00:15:36,908 --> 00:15:40,628 Speaker 1: email or text, you should write it down, take a breath, 335 00:15:41,748 --> 00:15:44,148 Speaker 1: look at it, maybe five ten minutes later, and say 336 00:15:44,188 --> 00:15:46,188 Speaker 1: do you really want to send that email? Do you 337 00:15:46,268 --> 00:15:48,708 Speaker 1: really want? The same ghost? For Twitter? And this is 338 00:15:48,708 --> 00:15:51,468 Speaker 1: a lesson Chris Collinsworth taught me way back. He said, 339 00:15:51,628 --> 00:15:53,548 Speaker 1: imagine every tweet you put out there is going to 340 00:15:53,588 --> 00:15:55,468 Speaker 1: be on the cover of the New York Times. Do 341 00:15:55,508 --> 00:15:57,308 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with that tweet being on the cover 342 00:15:57,348 --> 00:16:00,868 Speaker 1: of the New York Times. How about being on Good 343 00:16:00,908 --> 00:16:04,028 Speaker 1: Morning Football. Okay, we've got receipts, folks, and I saw 344 00:16:04,068 --> 00:16:07,428 Speaker 1: this go around yesterday around a Josh Allen thing that 345 00:16:07,468 --> 00:16:09,508 Speaker 1: Bills put out, so we thought we'd have some fun. 346 00:16:09,628 --> 00:16:12,468 Speaker 1: Let's let's take a look at some of the reactions 347 00:16:12,468 --> 00:16:14,628 Speaker 1: to some of our favorite draft picks over the last 348 00:16:14,628 --> 00:16:17,828 Speaker 1: few years. And this is called tweets of rain. Yes, okay, 349 00:16:17,948 --> 00:16:22,628 Speaker 1: and we're not casting judgment. Just remember psa draft morning. 350 00:16:24,268 --> 00:16:27,348 Speaker 1: You know you have expectations draft night. Don't go to 351 00:16:27,388 --> 00:16:30,628 Speaker 1: Twitter if you're upset, don't explode. Let's see how it goes. 352 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:33,228 Speaker 1: Let's start off what happened. Go to the twenty seventeen 353 00:16:33,428 --> 00:16:36,708 Speaker 1: NFL Draft in the City of Brotherly Love. The Chiefs 354 00:16:36,948 --> 00:16:38,788 Speaker 1: traded with the Bills to move up to the tenth 355 00:16:38,788 --> 00:16:41,988 Speaker 1: overall pick and had one player in mind. Let's see 356 00:16:41,988 --> 00:16:48,868 Speaker 1: how it all went down. Hello, yes, sir, Yes, awesome. 357 00:16:48,908 --> 00:16:53,628 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Coach the Kansas City Chiefs select Patrick Mahomes. 358 00:16:53,628 --> 00:17:04,748 Speaker 1: It's a second So the Chiefs tweet this simple pick. 359 00:17:05,148 --> 00:17:07,388 Speaker 1: This is what they do. The picture of the draft 360 00:17:07,428 --> 00:17:10,068 Speaker 1: card and the pick is in one of the best picks. Ever, 361 00:17:10,188 --> 00:17:11,868 Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest draft picks ever in the 362 00:17:11,908 --> 00:17:15,628 Speaker 1: history of the sport. Change the NFL. Um let's say 363 00:17:15,628 --> 00:17:18,748 Speaker 1: some of the reactions online to this tweet. To this, 364 00:17:18,868 --> 00:17:23,268 Speaker 1: Chiefs tweeted, you want a QB to groon? Take Dobbs 365 00:17:23,348 --> 00:17:27,068 Speaker 1: from Tennessee or Kaiser from Notre Dame. What a waste 366 00:17:27,108 --> 00:17:30,308 Speaker 1: to move up from a Hals? Great, it's great. Next, 367 00:17:31,108 --> 00:17:35,428 Speaker 1: this guy sucks gonna be a bus tweeted at the 368 00:17:35,428 --> 00:17:39,228 Speaker 1: team should have drafted to Shaun Watson over three O. 369 00:17:42,468 --> 00:17:45,508 Speaker 1: The Holmes gets drafted and the initial response from most 370 00:17:45,508 --> 00:17:48,028 Speaker 1: of Chiefs to fans twitter was what are we doing? 371 00:17:48,268 --> 00:17:51,668 Speaker 1: It was shocking. It was shocking. Mike a message to 372 00:17:51,748 --> 00:17:54,468 Speaker 1: some of these fans who might have had that reaction 373 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:57,108 Speaker 1: in real time. Yeah, it just highlights the fact that 374 00:17:57,228 --> 00:18:01,628 Speaker 1: most people, most human beings, cannot evaluate talent. Um. Just 375 00:18:01,668 --> 00:18:03,828 Speaker 1: trust the professionals that do it for a living at 376 00:18:03,908 --> 00:18:08,788 Speaker 1: see these young arm talents, because yeah, that pick literally 377 00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:12,308 Speaker 1: sets your franchise up for the next what twenty years? 378 00:18:12,828 --> 00:18:19,868 Speaker 1: Yeah it yes, Yes, Britney was thrilled. Um let's move 379 00:18:19,908 --> 00:18:23,748 Speaker 1: on Smith School to draft after that at and T 380 00:18:23,908 --> 00:18:27,068 Speaker 1: Stadium in Dallas. Lots of hype about the best draft 381 00:18:27,188 --> 00:18:31,788 Speaker 1: quarterback class in years. The Bills they traded up and uh, 382 00:18:31,868 --> 00:18:34,748 Speaker 1: let's see who they selected and made with their pick 383 00:18:34,828 --> 00:18:38,988 Speaker 1: in that draft. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have traded the 384 00:18:39,028 --> 00:18:43,828 Speaker 1: seventh pick to the Buffalo bill With the seventh pick 385 00:18:44,188 --> 00:18:48,868 Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select 386 00:18:49,588 --> 00:18:58,868 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's a lot of courage that the lure 387 00:18:59,148 --> 00:19:02,068 Speaker 1: YEA Bills post that on Twitter said, hey, look, it's 388 00:19:02,068 --> 00:19:05,348 Speaker 1: the most generic tweet ever we've draft. Did Josh Allen 389 00:19:05,428 --> 00:19:10,588 Speaker 1: with the seven fick welcome to Buffalo? The reactions please, oh, 390 00:19:10,948 --> 00:19:13,468 Speaker 1: let's go he try it out for Josh Allen, not Rosen. 391 00:19:14,068 --> 00:19:17,068 Speaker 1: Prediction Rosen will be Rookie of the Year. The Bills 392 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:21,868 Speaker 1: all right, joke, what's up? Chip? Brian? We see we 393 00:19:21,948 --> 00:19:23,668 Speaker 1: love you. Brian City is like, what am I what 394 00:19:24,388 --> 00:19:27,268 Speaker 1: to think? I think? The Bills didn't even try to 395 00:19:27,348 --> 00:19:30,908 Speaker 1: get Garoppolo. I begged them. I begged them, but they 396 00:19:30,948 --> 00:19:34,708 Speaker 1: thought they knew better. Good luck with inaccurate Josh Allen. 397 00:19:34,788 --> 00:19:40,228 Speaker 1: Your entire organization is an embarrassment. All Caps. Who do 398 00:19:40,228 --> 00:19:44,988 Speaker 1: we have next? The Mafia season? Very bad pick. Rosen 399 00:19:45,068 --> 00:19:47,948 Speaker 1: is miles above this guy Allen will flame out of 400 00:19:47,988 --> 00:19:54,748 Speaker 1: the NFL by year. Last one. I love this. Welcome 401 00:19:54,788 --> 00:19:58,388 Speaker 1: to j Plassman, steppy loss Man, despened to be the 402 00:19:58,388 --> 00:20:02,068 Speaker 1: worst pick in the draft. You moved up for failure. 403 00:20:02,628 --> 00:20:07,548 Speaker 1: Congrats Capitals. I will not be renewing. Nice season takes. 404 00:20:07,628 --> 00:20:13,148 Speaker 1: Let's firebug Jones. Fig Um keeps going, Let's get to 405 00:20:13,188 --> 00:20:15,068 Speaker 1: the next one here, because this is fun, this is great, 406 00:20:15,068 --> 00:20:18,548 Speaker 1: It's just twenty Yeah, we all have reactions, but um, 407 00:20:18,628 --> 00:20:20,548 Speaker 1: let's go to the next player here. Let's get the 408 00:20:20,588 --> 00:20:24,228 Speaker 1: next the next tweet here because this this one actually 409 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:26,828 Speaker 1: was on. Let's go twenty twenty draft. Everything was remote 410 00:20:26,868 --> 00:20:29,228 Speaker 1: due to the pandemic. But that doesn't mean that people 411 00:20:29,268 --> 00:20:31,268 Speaker 1: did not have takes. If anything, they had more takes. 412 00:20:32,268 --> 00:20:35,588 Speaker 1: Deep quarterback Class Burrow Off the board, Two off the board. 413 00:20:35,588 --> 00:20:38,588 Speaker 1: The Chargers are up at sixth overall. Let's go to 414 00:20:38,708 --> 00:20:46,148 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's lounge chair. What happened with the sixth pick 415 00:20:46,508 --> 00:20:50,548 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft? The Los Angeles Chargers 416 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:58,508 Speaker 1: like Justin Herbert quarterback Oregon. A good spread, Yeah, you're 417 00:20:58,588 --> 00:21:02,588 Speaker 1: sensible spread, great tracudery board. Jared free to see all 418 00:21:02,588 --> 00:21:05,508 Speaker 1: these things that you have, these wonderful spread everyone's happy 419 00:21:05,628 --> 00:21:10,868 Speaker 1: Gobba gul, gobba gul. The tomatoes on got our guy 420 00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:13,348 Speaker 1: with two esclamates. Yeah, I can't imagine just being the 421 00:21:13,388 --> 00:21:16,868 Speaker 1: social media person going here were girls have fun with 422 00:21:16,988 --> 00:21:19,268 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. Two point is that even an intell tennant 423 00:21:20,788 --> 00:21:26,268 Speaker 1: logal Um, thank you Spanos for your commitment to the 424 00:21:26,348 --> 00:21:29,948 Speaker 1: Chargers being bottom dwellers for years to come. This tweet 425 00:21:29,988 --> 00:21:33,388 Speaker 1: will age Wow a double down. Yeah, that's a double tweet. 426 00:21:33,788 --> 00:21:38,668 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Or get Simmons and draft a serviceable quarterback 427 00:21:38,788 --> 00:21:42,788 Speaker 1: later Isaiah Simmons. I think Isaiah Simmons was Okay, we 428 00:21:42,908 --> 00:21:44,948 Speaker 1: just admitted we're not trying to win for a Super 429 00:21:44,948 --> 00:21:48,348 Speaker 1: Bowl this year. We're not trying for it. Um, and 430 00:21:48,428 --> 00:21:50,788 Speaker 1: I like this one. Now. You know how Knicks fans 431 00:21:50,788 --> 00:21:55,148 Speaker 1: always feel, oh, you made her see that Robert thirty 432 00:21:55,228 --> 00:21:56,908 Speaker 1: z how it's not a link that means he's since 433 00:21:56,948 --> 00:21:59,988 Speaker 1: abandoned that profile, which is probably smart. It's no, it's 434 00:22:00,028 --> 00:22:04,708 Speaker 1: defunct now he wins offensive Brookie of the Year is 435 00:22:04,748 --> 00:22:07,068 Speaker 1: one of the best young quarterbacks in football. It just 436 00:22:07,108 --> 00:22:09,308 Speaker 1: goes to show that none of these fan bases are 437 00:22:09,308 --> 00:22:14,788 Speaker 1: immune to it, including oh, let's go do it, pluting 438 00:22:14,828 --> 00:22:18,348 Speaker 1: the Bengals fan base. Last year Cleveland is hosting the draft, 439 00:22:18,348 --> 00:22:20,308 Speaker 1: there's a lot of debate on what the Bengal should 440 00:22:20,348 --> 00:22:24,348 Speaker 1: do at five offensive line or this Jamar Chase wouldn't 441 00:22:24,348 --> 00:22:30,948 Speaker 1: even play in twenty twenty. Let's see the pick. We're 442 00:22:31,068 --> 00:22:34,748 Speaker 1: the fifth pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, 443 00:22:35,748 --> 00:22:45,668 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals select Jamar Chase, wide receiver. You hear 444 00:22:45,748 --> 00:22:51,228 Speaker 1: eyes into the background. Oh okay again Cincinnati, very good 445 00:22:51,228 --> 00:22:55,508 Speaker 1: tweet from the Bayou to Ohio. Welcome to the jungle, 446 00:22:55,868 --> 00:22:58,228 Speaker 1: include the player and do a little logo. That's great, 447 00:22:58,428 --> 00:23:05,668 Speaker 1: that's great. Oh, no, karate lord, you bungled yours contect 448 00:23:05,708 --> 00:23:08,388 Speaker 1: you a franchise QB. It's all caps lock. What's the 449 00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:10,508 Speaker 1: point of having the wide receiver? You can't allow your 450 00:23:10,548 --> 00:23:12,988 Speaker 1: quarterback to thrown at M No offensive line, no offense. 451 00:23:13,468 --> 00:23:17,548 Speaker 1: Who do we got next? Zach the karate Lord, Max juice, 452 00:23:18,668 --> 00:23:24,268 Speaker 1: trash pick, garbage franchise moved to Montreal, they went to 453 00:23:24,308 --> 00:23:27,188 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Can has anything to do with the 454 00:23:27,308 --> 00:23:29,148 Speaker 1: leave leave this country. That's what it has to get 455 00:23:29,188 --> 00:23:32,388 Speaker 1: out of here. Terrible pick. Did you learn anything from 456 00:23:32,468 --> 00:23:37,988 Speaker 1: John Roster. Wow. And then I like this one Zach 457 00:23:38,028 --> 00:23:40,028 Speaker 1: Taylor who did not make the pit. Necessarily, the front 458 00:23:40,028 --> 00:23:43,188 Speaker 1: of Taylor should be fired right now. You need no well, 459 00:23:43,268 --> 00:23:45,228 Speaker 1: not a freaking wide receiver in the first round. A 460 00:23:45,228 --> 00:23:46,868 Speaker 1: lot of these tweets come from guys in their cars 461 00:23:46,868 --> 00:23:56,428 Speaker 1: with sunglasses. Um, not a soul Twitter, Twitter? Blow Twitter? Okay, 462 00:23:56,508 --> 00:24:01,388 Speaker 1: Kyle Mike, what would be your message to fans rip? 463 00:24:01,988 --> 00:24:04,348 Speaker 1: We enjoy tweets of rage. I don't you're telling them 464 00:24:04,508 --> 00:24:06,908 Speaker 1: you're doing a PSA about not doing it. We wouldn't 465 00:24:06,908 --> 00:24:08,948 Speaker 1: have this segment. It's a great name. It all worked. 466 00:24:09,188 --> 00:24:11,628 Speaker 1: Tweet your hearts out in social media teams. They're ready 467 00:24:11,628 --> 00:24:14,028 Speaker 1: for it. I really think they're like, here it is sin. 468 00:24:14,188 --> 00:24:17,948 Speaker 1: And then they're like Rocky Lake isolation earbuds, like they 469 00:24:17,988 --> 00:24:20,428 Speaker 1: don't care, nobody cares. What if it may help meets 470 00:24:20,428 --> 00:24:22,588 Speaker 1: you feel better and gives us content. I'm here for it. 471 00:24:23,108 --> 00:24:26,068 Speaker 1: I feel that man, go away, tweet away again. They're 472 00:24:26,148 --> 00:24:28,068 Speaker 1: not scouts to leave it to the professional. There's no 473 00:24:28,108 --> 00:24:30,948 Speaker 1: game without the fans. Their voices are heard. I remember 474 00:24:31,068 --> 00:24:33,708 Speaker 1: we flew to the Dallas Draft and the four of 475 00:24:33,788 --> 00:24:35,548 Speaker 1: us were in the airport and we were having a 476 00:24:35,548 --> 00:24:37,508 Speaker 1: whole bunch of drinks because Nate was buying. And there 477 00:24:37,588 --> 00:24:39,268 Speaker 1: was a Bills fan who was there and he was 478 00:24:39,308 --> 00:24:41,588 Speaker 1: a New York firefighter and he was going to the 479 00:24:41,668 --> 00:24:45,428 Speaker 1: draft as a Bills fan, and we asked him like, dude, Bills, 480 00:24:45,548 --> 00:24:47,948 Speaker 1: what do you want? And he goes, just don't pick 481 00:24:48,068 --> 00:24:51,388 Speaker 1: the wrong Josh, and I go, well, what's the wrong Josh? 482 00:24:51,428 --> 00:24:53,948 Speaker 1: He's like that guy from Montana. And I'm like, I 483 00:24:53,988 --> 00:24:55,588 Speaker 1: think you mean my omian and I think you're talking 484 00:24:55,588 --> 00:24:58,468 Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. There was a huge push for Josh 485 00:24:58,588 --> 00:25:00,708 Speaker 1: Rosen at the time, and a lot of those tweets 486 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,028 Speaker 1: have Josh Rosen in it, and now those people are 487 00:25:03,148 --> 00:25:07,108 Speaker 1: naming their sons after Josh out from Montana. It's amazing 488 00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:13,308 Speaker 1: we excluded ourselves this time around. I literally terrified Trigger. 489 00:25:13,628 --> 00:25:15,228 Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to say. And now for 490 00:25:15,428 --> 00:25:20,268 Speaker 1: Colin cast I mean, the amount of tweets that we 491 00:25:20,388 --> 00:25:23,028 Speaker 1: probably have in the immediate moments after the draft, or 492 00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:25,188 Speaker 1: things we said on a television show the morning after 493 00:25:25,588 --> 00:25:27,268 Speaker 1: sounds like a segment for maybe later this Well, we 494 00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:29,308 Speaker 1: already know one of yours. Peter, You're most infamous take 495 00:25:29,308 --> 00:25:30,868 Speaker 1: on Twitter of all time, as you were a big 496 00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:34,348 Speaker 1: Matt Flynn Seahawks guy. I'm not feeling Russell Wilson. Not 497 00:25:34,428 --> 00:25:37,308 Speaker 1: only was I upset that they drafted Russell Wilson thought 498 00:25:37,308 --> 00:25:39,068 Speaker 1: it was a ridiculous pick. I was upset they drafted 499 00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:41,388 Speaker 1: have been the third round. I was like, how could 500 00:25:41,388 --> 00:25:43,908 Speaker 1: you waste a third round pick on Russell Wilson when 501 00:25:43,908 --> 00:25:46,308 Speaker 1: you already have Matt Flynn and Trevarus Jackson? What do 502 00:25:46,388 --> 00:25:47,828 Speaker 1: you do in Seattle? And he goes on to be 503 00:25:47,868 --> 00:25:53,108 Speaker 1: the greatest Seahawks quarterback to everlyn Ama Bailey Block, good Block, 504 00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:55,988 Speaker 1: Let's go to Vegas. The Raiders signed Derek Arr to 505 00:25:56,148 --> 00:25:58,908 Speaker 1: a multi year extension that according to Ore and If 506 00:25:58,908 --> 00:26:00,988 Speaker 1: when they were insider Ian Ratmore and my careful, it's 507 00:26:00,988 --> 00:26:03,468 Speaker 1: three years, guys, three years worth one twenty one point 508 00:26:03,508 --> 00:26:07,148 Speaker 1: five million dollars. Then it also includes a no trade clause, 509 00:26:07,268 --> 00:26:10,588 Speaker 1: which is very trendy in the NFL these days. Derek 510 00:26:10,628 --> 00:26:17,428 Speaker 1: Carr spoke about it yesterday. I only wanted to be 511 00:26:17,468 --> 00:26:20,908 Speaker 1: a Raider, and I told my agent, I said, I'm 512 00:26:20,908 --> 00:26:22,508 Speaker 1: either going to be a Raider or I'm going to 513 00:26:22,588 --> 00:26:24,628 Speaker 1: be playing golf, Like I don't want to play anywhere else, 514 00:26:24,828 --> 00:26:27,588 Speaker 1: you know, this. That's how much this place means to me. 515 00:26:27,828 --> 00:26:30,668 Speaker 1: The question of can I went a playoff game, like, yeah, 516 00:26:30,668 --> 00:26:33,628 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, you know, Like yes, just because we hadn't, 517 00:26:33,948 --> 00:26:36,588 Speaker 1: just because we had one chance and we lost in 518 00:26:36,628 --> 00:26:39,308 Speaker 1: the last series of a game to the AFC champions. Yeah, 519 00:26:39,308 --> 00:26:42,428 Speaker 1: I think we can. You know. But with that said, 520 00:26:42,428 --> 00:26:44,588 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of the teams that make the playoffs 521 00:26:44,588 --> 00:26:46,988 Speaker 1: the next year don't, So you know, odds are against this. 522 00:26:47,108 --> 00:26:49,348 Speaker 1: And I like that kind of thought process better. So 523 00:26:49,788 --> 00:26:52,148 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep that underdog mentality and kind of 524 00:26:52,188 --> 00:26:56,508 Speaker 1: that chip on my shoulder mindset. He's an underdog, but 525 00:26:56,628 --> 00:26:59,268 Speaker 1: he's a leader as well spoken, he's respected, he's an 526 00:26:59,268 --> 00:27:01,428 Speaker 1: adult in the room. Let's see if you can do it. Though, 527 00:27:01,428 --> 00:27:03,668 Speaker 1: we'll see about the playoffs right now. The extension brings 528 00:27:03,668 --> 00:27:06,588 Speaker 1: Derek Car's average up to forty point five million dollars 529 00:27:06,588 --> 00:27:08,948 Speaker 1: per season. That is top five. So to take it 530 00:27:08,988 --> 00:27:11,988 Speaker 1: from the money to the field, gentleman, will Derek car 531 00:27:12,068 --> 00:27:16,268 Speaker 1: be a top five quarterback in this loaded AFC this season? 532 00:27:17,468 --> 00:27:20,708 Speaker 1: Will it be a top five quarterback? I mean, that 533 00:27:20,868 --> 00:27:23,748 Speaker 1: question to me is nuance because just you know, what 534 00:27:23,948 --> 00:27:26,748 Speaker 1: is your what is your definition of having a top 535 00:27:26,788 --> 00:27:29,948 Speaker 1: five guy right to me is winning. Yeah, I'm always 536 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:32,228 Speaker 1: going to go there. I was a role player, special 537 00:27:32,268 --> 00:27:35,668 Speaker 1: team or fullback. To me, is about winning. And I 538 00:27:35,708 --> 00:27:38,628 Speaker 1: think Derek Carr will tell you, I take less stats 539 00:27:39,348 --> 00:27:41,988 Speaker 1: for the wins, for the home fill advantage throughout the playoffs, 540 00:27:42,028 --> 00:27:43,628 Speaker 1: and for things like that. And when you look at 541 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:46,388 Speaker 1: Derek Carr to throw for his for the best of 542 00:27:46,468 --> 00:27:49,308 Speaker 1: his career at what forty eight hundred yards, twenty three touchdowns, 543 00:27:49,308 --> 00:27:52,148 Speaker 1: only fourteen interceptions. For him to do that during a 544 00:27:52,268 --> 00:27:54,548 Speaker 1: season where he lost his head coach who was his 545 00:27:54,588 --> 00:27:58,388 Speaker 1: primary play caller, who you also had your special teams 546 00:27:58,428 --> 00:28:02,788 Speaker 1: coach now coaching the entire team, and with an organization 547 00:28:02,828 --> 00:28:06,108 Speaker 1: as usually regarded as a that just blows leads and 548 00:28:06,868 --> 00:28:09,828 Speaker 1: plays bad football, you lad this team to the playoffs. 549 00:28:10,068 --> 00:28:13,108 Speaker 1: So yes, forty million dollars, whether you like it or not, 550 00:28:13,308 --> 00:28:15,948 Speaker 1: is the going rate for a franchise quarterback. And I 551 00:28:15,988 --> 00:28:18,708 Speaker 1: think Derek Carr is a franchise quarterback. And I think 552 00:28:18,908 --> 00:28:21,628 Speaker 1: guys like Baker Mayfield could learn a little bit from 553 00:28:21,668 --> 00:28:24,388 Speaker 1: Derek Carr because he just puts his head down, he 554 00:28:24,428 --> 00:28:28,148 Speaker 1: just works. There's always stories every single year about whether 555 00:28:28,188 --> 00:28:30,228 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is going to be a franchise quarterback or 556 00:28:30,228 --> 00:28:32,508 Speaker 1: whether he can carry a team. And all he does 557 00:28:32,788 --> 00:28:35,348 Speaker 1: is just go out there and work, and guys follow him. 558 00:28:35,388 --> 00:28:39,228 Speaker 1: I'm telling Baker Baker Mayfield cold learn from him. Baker 559 00:28:39,228 --> 00:28:42,068 Speaker 1: Mayfields where playoff wins than Derek Carr true one to zero? 560 00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:44,388 Speaker 1: Do you hold that against Derek Carr and say what 561 00:28:44,388 --> 00:28:46,748 Speaker 1: have you done? Or you think last year's miraculous playoff 562 00:28:46,868 --> 00:28:49,108 Speaker 1: berth is enough to say that's a leader, that's a winner. 563 00:28:49,188 --> 00:28:51,068 Speaker 1: Or do you need the playoff win to like solidify it? 564 00:28:51,708 --> 00:28:53,948 Speaker 1: I would want wins to solidify it. But I mean, 565 00:28:53,988 --> 00:28:55,868 Speaker 1: I just look at what he was up against last year, 566 00:28:56,388 --> 00:28:58,348 Speaker 1: and he seemed to be just talking to guys in 567 00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:00,348 Speaker 1: the locker room. He seemed to be the calming voice. 568 00:29:00,348 --> 00:29:02,788 Speaker 1: He seemed to be the voice of leadership in a 569 00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:07,908 Speaker 1: situation that badly needed leadership. And again it produced his 570 00:29:08,148 --> 00:29:12,388 Speaker 1: best statistical season of his career. And you know, guys, 571 00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:14,588 Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to be at Broadcast boot camp 572 00:29:14,628 --> 00:29:17,828 Speaker 1: this year and Darren Waller was there. Okay, okay, that 573 00:29:17,868 --> 00:29:21,748 Speaker 1: guy is so physically imposing. Oh my goodness, I'm just 574 00:29:21,788 --> 00:29:25,948 Speaker 1: looking at him. You got Davante Adams. Now, I think 575 00:29:25,988 --> 00:29:27,788 Speaker 1: that the stats are just gonna be there, just simply 576 00:29:27,788 --> 00:29:29,948 Speaker 1: because of the guys they have on the outside. I 577 00:29:29,988 --> 00:29:31,908 Speaker 1: think if they work on that run game, which Josh 578 00:29:31,988 --> 00:29:33,868 Speaker 1: mcdames I know he likes to do, you work on 579 00:29:33,908 --> 00:29:35,748 Speaker 1: that run game, Yeah, this offense will be one of 580 00:29:35,788 --> 00:29:38,348 Speaker 1: those top offenses, not just an AFC, but in the 581 00:29:38,828 --> 00:29:41,388 Speaker 1: top five leader Peter, top five quarterback, Yeah, top five leader. 582 00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:42,668 Speaker 1: I gave you that's a thing. The question is top 583 00:29:42,668 --> 00:29:45,708 Speaker 1: five quarterback maybe too, you know, yeah, like all around, guys, 584 00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:47,268 Speaker 1: I want to play golf with him, you know, you 585 00:29:47,268 --> 00:29:49,148 Speaker 1: want him to date your sister or whatever, like whatever. 586 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:52,548 Speaker 1: Like he's he's in these players, all of him and 587 00:29:52,628 --> 00:29:54,988 Speaker 1: Davontae Adams has openly said that one of the main 588 00:29:55,028 --> 00:29:57,108 Speaker 1: reasons obviously was that the Raiders were going to pay 589 00:29:57,188 --> 00:29:58,668 Speaker 1: him and it was come down. But like Derek Carr, 590 00:29:58,748 --> 00:30:00,508 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a specific player. It's not like he 591 00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:02,308 Speaker 1: was saying, I need to get out of Green Bay 592 00:30:02,308 --> 00:30:04,628 Speaker 1: and go anywhere. He wanted to go to Zega for 593 00:30:04,708 --> 00:30:07,908 Speaker 1: Derek Carr in their relationship, which we have discussed. But 594 00:30:07,948 --> 00:30:10,348 Speaker 1: if I am to say right now going into the season, 595 00:30:11,228 --> 00:30:14,348 Speaker 1: is he a top five pick of mine in that AFC. 596 00:30:14,468 --> 00:30:15,988 Speaker 1: Let's I mean they got some of the quarterbacks in 597 00:30:15,988 --> 00:30:19,228 Speaker 1: the FC taking Josh Allen over him, Okay, taking my 598 00:30:19,308 --> 00:30:22,468 Speaker 1: homes over him. I'm taking Herbert over him still, even 599 00:30:22,468 --> 00:30:24,508 Speaker 1: though Herbert's never been to the playoffs. And as the Luke, 600 00:30:26,028 --> 00:30:28,228 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I'm taking Russell Wilson of him, 601 00:30:28,268 --> 00:30:29,708 Speaker 1: I am, so there'd be three guys in his own 602 00:30:29,708 --> 00:30:31,788 Speaker 1: division taking over him. Yeah, and I'm taking Burrow too, 603 00:30:32,428 --> 00:30:35,268 Speaker 1: and I might take a Lamar. So now you're asking, well, 604 00:30:35,308 --> 00:30:37,748 Speaker 1: that's not fair? Like good? Well, the question is he 605 00:30:37,828 --> 00:30:39,988 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback? He can be. I hope he 606 00:30:40,068 --> 00:30:43,708 Speaker 1: did for that, and might take Watson, But right now 607 00:30:43,788 --> 00:30:45,868 Speaker 1: he doesn't make my top five in the AFC. If 608 00:30:45,948 --> 00:30:49,028 Speaker 1: I'm the one picking, it's all projection, and he's got 609 00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:51,428 Speaker 1: the ability, he's got the players, he's got the roster. 610 00:30:51,588 --> 00:30:55,028 Speaker 1: But based on what I'm doing going into twenty twenty two, 611 00:30:55,068 --> 00:30:56,988 Speaker 1: I'd pick five other quarterbacks before him in the AFC. 612 00:30:57,548 --> 00:30:59,868 Speaker 1: Is that unfair? No? He's not top five row talent? 613 00:30:59,988 --> 00:31:02,188 Speaker 1: Is he? Kyle is the top five? I popping stats? No, 614 00:31:02,308 --> 00:31:05,468 Speaker 1: he thought so, immended, but I think salary is there 615 00:31:05,628 --> 00:31:07,708 Speaker 1: because the guys. I mean, you look at it, The 616 00:31:07,748 --> 00:31:09,988 Speaker 1: faster you pay these quarterbacks, the better it is for 617 00:31:10,028 --> 00:31:13,748 Speaker 1: your organization. If you wait, the longer you wait, the 618 00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:16,268 Speaker 1: more expensive that they get. So I think, yeah, right now, 619 00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:18,348 Speaker 1: his salary is going to be in the top five. 620 00:31:18,708 --> 00:31:20,708 Speaker 1: But let's look at that in two years and then 621 00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:22,468 Speaker 1: I think you get a better sense of where he 622 00:31:22,588 --> 00:31:24,868 Speaker 1: ranks in the quarterback ranks because the pay will be 623 00:31:25,108 --> 00:31:26,708 Speaker 1: I said yesterday on the show, like I have a 624 00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:29,348 Speaker 1: question mark about the Raiders because like, when's car gonna 625 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:31,348 Speaker 1: get paid? Like that was now, So I have no 626 00:31:31,388 --> 00:31:34,428 Speaker 1: doubt he should be paid. You're right, the market dictates 627 00:31:34,428 --> 00:31:37,068 Speaker 1: that this is his time. But top five in the 628 00:31:37,828 --> 00:31:40,948 Speaker 1: well top five, not everyone's top five. Top five is rare, 629 00:31:41,188 --> 00:31:44,388 Speaker 1: the top five raw talent statistics. I just defined, it's 630 00:31:44,428 --> 00:31:46,988 Speaker 1: like the top five guys when it's coming down the stretch. 631 00:31:47,188 --> 00:31:48,348 Speaker 1: We know we got a guy. We know we have 632 00:31:48,388 --> 00:31:49,548 Speaker 1: one of the best. I don't really care what the 633 00:31:49,548 --> 00:31:51,428 Speaker 1: stats say. There's a lot of times the best quarterbacks 634 00:31:51,428 --> 00:31:54,748 Speaker 1: one of the best stats. My answer is he better 635 00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:57,508 Speaker 1: be Like we have waited close to a decade for 636 00:31:57,668 --> 00:31:59,988 Speaker 1: Derek Carr to become one of the true princes of 637 00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:03,308 Speaker 1: the NFL. Here's the deal, now thirty one years old. 638 00:32:04,028 --> 00:32:07,148 Speaker 1: Pay out the wazoo. We brought in a coach who 639 00:32:07,188 --> 00:32:09,628 Speaker 1: is an offensive guy who's won six Super Bowls. We 640 00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:11,908 Speaker 1: paid all the money to your best friend from college 641 00:32:11,908 --> 00:32:14,668 Speaker 1: to be wide receiver. You got an indoor stadium like 642 00:32:14,748 --> 00:32:18,188 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Go ahead, now, now this is all you, bill, buddy. 643 00:32:18,188 --> 00:32:20,388 Speaker 1: We got to start walking here because I would also 644 00:32:20,428 --> 00:32:23,108 Speaker 1: say this, this is what he's working with. Bring up 645 00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:25,508 Speaker 1: these four faces. When he breaks the huddle for first 646 00:32:25,508 --> 00:32:27,788 Speaker 1: and ten from the twenty five. You got those four 647 00:32:27,828 --> 00:32:31,508 Speaker 1: guys that is DeVante Waller, Hunter Renfro and Josh Jacobs. 648 00:32:32,828 --> 00:32:35,748 Speaker 1: Find a quarterback right now in the AFC who has 649 00:32:35,748 --> 00:32:38,068 Speaker 1: a better four weapons to work with. I don't think 650 00:32:38,068 --> 00:32:41,668 Speaker 1: Mahomes does anymore. I don't think Josh Allen does. Maybe 651 00:32:41,748 --> 00:32:43,668 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, if you want to make a case, maybe 652 00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:45,828 Speaker 1: it is those three wideouts and mixing all right, But 653 00:32:45,988 --> 00:32:48,548 Speaker 1: it's really close, and I don't think the Chargers do. 654 00:32:48,708 --> 00:32:51,748 Speaker 1: I don't think the Broncos do. The Raiders have afforded 655 00:32:51,828 --> 00:32:55,828 Speaker 1: him with everything to succeed. It's like, now we just 656 00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:57,508 Speaker 1: need you to get out the nest man and by 657 00:32:57,508 --> 00:32:59,228 Speaker 1: get out the nest. I mean when your first wild 658 00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:01,828 Speaker 1: card game, we can only say for so many years, 659 00:33:02,348 --> 00:33:06,548 Speaker 1: great leader, great locker room, who can years win? Yeah 660 00:33:07,188 --> 00:33:11,028 Speaker 1: he is. He is AFC kirk Cousins without a playoff win. 661 00:33:11,068 --> 00:33:13,428 Speaker 1: And by that I mean he's really good and people 662 00:33:13,468 --> 00:33:15,948 Speaker 1: like him, but like just the resume isn't there. And 663 00:33:15,988 --> 00:33:18,148 Speaker 1: you know who else was that? Matt Stafford was the 664 00:33:18,188 --> 00:33:20,508 Speaker 1: same way, shame exactly the way everybody liked him. Great 665 00:33:20,508 --> 00:33:23,428 Speaker 1: talent and never did squad moves teams, and now it explodes. 666 00:33:23,508 --> 00:33:25,548 Speaker 1: So this, I mean, we always say this is the 667 00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:27,548 Speaker 1: year for Derek car We've just said that for five years. 668 00:33:27,668 --> 00:33:29,588 Speaker 1: This is the year. And because I do, I give 669 00:33:29,628 --> 00:33:31,028 Speaker 1: him a pass for last year. I thought last year 670 00:33:31,028 --> 00:33:32,948 Speaker 1: was a nightmare with what the Raiders did when all 671 00:33:32,948 --> 00:33:35,588 Speaker 1: the stuff with Cruden, and I totally give him passengers 672 00:33:35,588 --> 00:33:37,628 Speaker 1: still in the playoffs. So if we're sitting here and 673 00:33:37,668 --> 00:33:40,468 Speaker 1: the Derek Carr Raiders or eight and nine and Derek Cars, 674 00:33:40,748 --> 00:33:43,388 Speaker 1: well could it. I'm we're moving on too many good 675 00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:45,388 Speaker 1: guys here. I don't think he's in the top five 676 00:33:45,388 --> 00:33:47,308 Speaker 1: really in any metric now, but when this season ends, 677 00:33:47,308 --> 00:33:49,188 Speaker 1: I want him in the top five. Guys who can 678 00:33:49,188 --> 00:33:50,868 Speaker 1: win in the playoffs in the FC, and he's not 679 00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:53,228 Speaker 1: there yet. I think he's going to have a career year. 680 00:33:54,308 --> 00:33:58,268 Speaker 1: Javonte Adams. I think I'm very excited about this news. 681 00:33:58,468 --> 00:34:02,268 Speaker 1: Countless times Derek carrs stood in that black T shirt 682 00:34:02,348 --> 00:34:04,828 Speaker 1: or that white T shirt and that Raiders hat and said, 683 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:06,188 Speaker 1: I want to be a Raider. I want to be 684 00:34:06,228 --> 00:34:08,308 Speaker 1: a Raider. Even said it after he got paid yesterday 685 00:34:08,348 --> 00:34:10,748 Speaker 1: and this three year deal. But last year all of 686 00:34:10,828 --> 00:34:13,908 Speaker 1: us were like, oh, oh, let's you the future. Pretty 687 00:34:13,988 --> 00:34:16,348 Speaker 1: much all of sports media at least had questions, a 688 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,868 Speaker 1: lot of them negative. And usually when we're thinking that way, 689 00:34:18,908 --> 00:34:22,668 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out. This GM, this head coach have 690 00:34:22,908 --> 00:34:25,588 Speaker 1: no ties to Derek Carr. They did not pick him, 691 00:34:25,588 --> 00:34:27,788 Speaker 1: they did not draft him. They owe him nothing. The 692 00:34:27,828 --> 00:34:30,308 Speaker 1: fact that he was able because of leadership, because of 693 00:34:30,348 --> 00:34:33,908 Speaker 1: whatever they saw to win over those people, that is 694 00:34:33,908 --> 00:34:36,308 Speaker 1: one of the coolest stories I think in recent years. 695 00:34:36,508 --> 00:34:39,588 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen and it shouldn't. I mean, going into 696 00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:42,748 Speaker 1: last year, we were questioning, is this Derek Carr's last shot? 697 00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:45,388 Speaker 1: What has he got going on? So I don't know 698 00:34:45,468 --> 00:34:47,188 Speaker 1: to see him go out and when everybody over is 699 00:34:47,228 --> 00:34:50,188 Speaker 1: so rare and it doesn't happen. Josh McDaniels saying this 700 00:34:50,268 --> 00:34:52,188 Speaker 1: is the guy, let's break him off, let's keep him 701 00:34:52,188 --> 00:34:55,548 Speaker 1: as part of this organization. Making that commitment to him 702 00:34:55,628 --> 00:34:59,028 Speaker 1: says more about him than I even thought that I knew, 703 00:34:59,028 --> 00:35:00,468 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to see what he does. I'm 704 00:35:00,628 --> 00:35:04,388 Speaker 1: rooting for Derek Carr this year. I think Josh Josh McDaniels, 705 00:35:04,548 --> 00:35:07,108 Speaker 1: she looked at the situation and say, look, we're gonna 706 00:35:07,108 --> 00:35:09,428 Speaker 1: be competitive. You know, I know my scheme, I know 707 00:35:09,668 --> 00:35:11,108 Speaker 1: you know the coaches I've brought in, I know the 708 00:35:11,108 --> 00:35:13,748 Speaker 1: new pieces I've brought in. We're gonna be competitive. We 709 00:35:13,868 --> 00:35:15,468 Speaker 1: may not be in a position to get one of 710 00:35:15,468 --> 00:35:17,668 Speaker 1: the top guys in the draft, so you just got 711 00:35:17,668 --> 00:35:19,748 Speaker 1: to look at kind of I'm a spade for I 712 00:35:19,868 --> 00:35:22,028 Speaker 1: like playing spades, right, Okay, So like you almost got 713 00:35:22,028 --> 00:35:23,948 Speaker 1: to always just look at the hand that you're dealt 714 00:35:23,948 --> 00:35:25,788 Speaker 1: and you just gotta go play it right, you know 715 00:35:25,788 --> 00:35:27,348 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, 716 00:35:27,388 --> 00:35:30,908 Speaker 1: I think they're looking at saying Derek Carr's probably gonna 717 00:35:30,948 --> 00:35:32,948 Speaker 1: be the best we can get our hands on right now, 718 00:35:33,268 --> 00:35:35,148 Speaker 1: we might as well pay him down again. The longer 719 00:35:35,228 --> 00:35:50,868 Speaker 1: you wait, the more expensive quarterbacks get for you at 720 00:35:50,948 --> 00:35:52,908 Speaker 1: home and for us. One of the top prospects up 721 00:35:52,948 --> 00:35:55,668 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, he is a first 722 00:35:55,708 --> 00:35:58,988 Speaker 1: team All American. He was so dominant hell gets us 723 00:35:59,028 --> 00:36:02,428 Speaker 1: just one sack all of last season with Boston College. 724 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:09,268 Speaker 1: Please welcome in through that that Nzion John Yo, welcome. 725 00:36:09,548 --> 00:36:11,988 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. Man, you look like 726 00:36:12,028 --> 00:36:14,828 Speaker 1: a million bucks. We are so happy to have you 727 00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:17,788 Speaker 1: in studio. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Yeah, 728 00:36:17,788 --> 00:36:20,508 Speaker 1: we're I want to hear more about the journey. Yeah, 729 00:36:20,668 --> 00:36:24,468 Speaker 1: it's amazing your time at Boston College filled with so 730 00:36:24,548 --> 00:36:26,588 Speaker 1: much success on the field, but also in the classroom. 731 00:36:26,588 --> 00:36:28,908 Speaker 1: You know, you have a degree in computer science. You're 732 00:36:28,908 --> 00:36:31,988 Speaker 1: working on another degree, cyber I've got it already, You've 733 00:36:31,988 --> 00:36:36,668 Speaker 1: got it. I've got it, and it's in Cybersey. Yeah. 734 00:36:36,828 --> 00:36:40,388 Speaker 1: You're protecting people's computers and stuff. I can. I had 735 00:36:40,428 --> 00:36:44,148 Speaker 1: the degree. He was a zero star recruit out of 736 00:36:44,188 --> 00:36:47,348 Speaker 1: high school zero and then you transferred to BC from 737 00:36:47,428 --> 00:36:51,268 Speaker 1: Davidson in twenty nineteen. How did you overcome those odds? 738 00:36:52,028 --> 00:36:54,348 Speaker 1: I would say for me, the biggest thing was I 739 00:36:54,388 --> 00:36:57,388 Speaker 1: had a lot of good coaches along the way that um, 740 00:36:57,428 --> 00:37:00,348 Speaker 1: you know, really worked with me, really took me aside, 741 00:37:00,428 --> 00:37:02,988 Speaker 1: you know, help me learn technique. I had a late 742 00:37:03,028 --> 00:37:04,948 Speaker 1: start to football, so I had to earn the game. 743 00:37:05,308 --> 00:37:07,468 Speaker 1: And you know, coaches like coach app Obama, who I 744 00:37:07,468 --> 00:37:10,908 Speaker 1: had at Davidson and Boston College, and coach trout Wine, 745 00:37:10,948 --> 00:37:13,108 Speaker 1: they did a lot to really help me develop throughout 746 00:37:13,108 --> 00:37:15,228 Speaker 1: my career. And you know, I attribute a lot to them. 747 00:37:15,428 --> 00:37:17,508 Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about you. Though I appreciate coach 748 00:37:17,548 --> 00:37:21,708 Speaker 1: trout Win, right, I like Coach Appy. They're not being 749 00:37:21,788 --> 00:37:25,228 Speaker 1: you are. Let's look at some of the strengths of 750 00:37:25,268 --> 00:37:27,388 Speaker 1: your game because you know, we hear no secks, but 751 00:37:27,428 --> 00:37:29,948 Speaker 1: you showed versatility too. And you're sitting across from us 752 00:37:30,028 --> 00:37:32,508 Speaker 1: right now. Um, first, can you just tell the audience 753 00:37:32,588 --> 00:37:36,188 Speaker 1: the size of your your shoe right now? Oh my gosh, 754 00:37:36,428 --> 00:37:40,268 Speaker 1: we're size eighteen shoes. Kicked that thing up, put on 755 00:37:40,308 --> 00:37:45,108 Speaker 1: our table lightness, damn. Yeah, baby, there's a lot of 756 00:37:45,108 --> 00:37:47,828 Speaker 1: surface area on the round. You knew how small the 757 00:37:47,908 --> 00:37:52,908 Speaker 1: mug was. And yeah, turning, you play guard, you play tackle, 758 00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:55,948 Speaker 1: you play center. Talk about your versatility and how any 759 00:37:55,948 --> 00:37:57,988 Speaker 1: team that drafts you you could play anywhere. Let's just 760 00:37:57,988 --> 00:38:01,348 Speaker 1: get to football. Who No, Absolutely, I really pride myself 761 00:38:01,388 --> 00:38:03,508 Speaker 1: on being able to play wherever coach wants me to. 762 00:38:05,068 --> 00:38:07,748 Speaker 1: From the mental aspect, you get a good picture of 763 00:38:07,748 --> 00:38:10,348 Speaker 1: what everybody does on a given play. If I'm playing 764 00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:12,588 Speaker 1: guard and I've played tackle in center, I know the 765 00:38:12,628 --> 00:38:15,068 Speaker 1: little nuances of what they're blocking tails and how I 766 00:38:15,068 --> 00:38:17,708 Speaker 1: can help them give extra help. And then just from 767 00:38:17,748 --> 00:38:20,708 Speaker 1: the skill perspective, you know when I played tackle, you know, 768 00:38:20,868 --> 00:38:23,348 Speaker 1: setting in all that space, dropped back with wide nine, 769 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:26,388 Speaker 1: you kick back inside the guard. There's little traits, a 770 00:38:26,348 --> 00:38:29,668 Speaker 1: little things you can you can uh factor into playing 771 00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:32,548 Speaker 1: guard that help you be better inside. So you know, 772 00:38:32,668 --> 00:38:35,188 Speaker 1: just playing all those positions has has helped me just 773 00:38:35,268 --> 00:38:38,148 Speaker 1: hone my skills over shot. Oh my goodness, bro, do 774 00:38:38,228 --> 00:38:40,028 Speaker 1: you know how tough that is for some players to 775 00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:43,068 Speaker 1: do to be able to have that perspective, Like, look, man, 776 00:38:43,108 --> 00:38:45,988 Speaker 1: you know I know I played I played tackle. I'm 777 00:38:45,988 --> 00:38:49,388 Speaker 1: in the guard position, my tackle seeing the defense this way, 778 00:38:49,468 --> 00:38:51,948 Speaker 1: so now I know what he's gonna already do. Like that, 779 00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:54,628 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's football at a very very high level. 780 00:38:54,668 --> 00:38:56,828 Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I'm glad you said that. Now you said, 781 00:38:56,868 --> 00:38:59,548 Speaker 1: you got the football late first three years. What was 782 00:38:59,548 --> 00:39:02,348 Speaker 1: it golf you were playing? I did not expect you 783 00:39:02,388 --> 00:39:04,308 Speaker 1: to be a golf guy when I saw you walk 784 00:39:04,388 --> 00:39:06,548 Speaker 1: through here, talk about golf like, talk about what led 785 00:39:06,628 --> 00:39:08,908 Speaker 1: you to put down the clubs and put on a 786 00:39:08,948 --> 00:39:13,188 Speaker 1: helm and start clubbing. So this is probably a unique story. 787 00:39:13,228 --> 00:39:15,668 Speaker 1: But the main person that kind of pushed me into 788 00:39:15,668 --> 00:39:17,788 Speaker 1: playing football with my mom. You know, you don't hear 789 00:39:17,828 --> 00:39:21,908 Speaker 1: that a lot. I played golf, but my mom always 790 00:39:21,908 --> 00:39:24,228 Speaker 1: taught me, you know, you want to try things in 791 00:39:24,268 --> 00:39:26,508 Speaker 1: life so you don't look back and have regrets. And 792 00:39:26,588 --> 00:39:28,508 Speaker 1: for football, that was the case. You know, I fell 793 00:39:28,548 --> 00:39:31,068 Speaker 1: in love with the game. I tried out two hundred 794 00:39:31,068 --> 00:39:33,788 Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds under size, and I struggled a lot. 795 00:39:33,988 --> 00:39:35,988 Speaker 1: But I think that struggle and being able to get 796 00:39:36,028 --> 00:39:38,948 Speaker 1: better and you see myself improve at the game is 797 00:39:38,948 --> 00:39:41,908 Speaker 1: something that I really fell in love with. You're fascinating. 798 00:39:42,508 --> 00:39:46,108 Speaker 1: You're fascinating. Take how's zion off the tea, Let's get 799 00:39:46,188 --> 00:39:48,508 Speaker 1: that golf? You whipping this thing three hundred and thirty yards. 800 00:39:48,508 --> 00:39:50,868 Speaker 1: I look at you. So I haven't played as much 801 00:39:50,908 --> 00:39:53,228 Speaker 1: as I used to, but I went out last summer 802 00:39:53,668 --> 00:39:58,228 Speaker 1: hit like ninety one solid. But you know, part of 803 00:39:58,228 --> 00:40:00,428 Speaker 1: me doesn't play anymore because I'm not as good as 804 00:40:00,428 --> 00:40:04,388 Speaker 1: I used to. Little Rusty, Well, uh you your football 805 00:40:04,388 --> 00:40:07,628 Speaker 1: members unbelievable. You crushed the combine. How about those bench restraps? 806 00:40:07,628 --> 00:40:10,188 Speaker 1: You remember how many times you flew it up thirty 807 00:40:10,228 --> 00:40:13,028 Speaker 1: two of two twenty five. And here's what's fat Everything 808 00:40:13,068 --> 00:40:16,628 Speaker 1: about you is interesting. You do it without your shoes on. 809 00:40:16,668 --> 00:40:18,388 Speaker 1: We already had your shoe up on the table. You 810 00:40:18,468 --> 00:40:21,788 Speaker 1: decided to bench thirty two reps, this pristine number with 811 00:40:21,828 --> 00:40:24,468 Speaker 1: no shoes. Take us into this as you just banging 812 00:40:24,548 --> 00:40:27,708 Speaker 1: them out? Why did you do that? So? When I 813 00:40:27,748 --> 00:40:30,108 Speaker 1: trained at Exos, I did all my lists with no 814 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:33,908 Speaker 1: shoes on. Just train my feet, you know, get used 815 00:40:33,948 --> 00:40:36,828 Speaker 1: to having you know, that contact with my feet. And 816 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:39,388 Speaker 1: I felt like as I continued to do that, and 817 00:40:39,428 --> 00:40:41,588 Speaker 1: as I started running more on the field, I felt 818 00:40:41,588 --> 00:40:44,508 Speaker 1: like I had more control over the ground. And you know, 819 00:40:44,828 --> 00:40:47,468 Speaker 1: just having that feeling and feeling how it helped. You know, 820 00:40:47,468 --> 00:40:49,188 Speaker 1: I just continue to do so I still lift with 821 00:40:49,268 --> 00:40:51,108 Speaker 1: no shoes on this day. You walk in there, just 822 00:40:51,188 --> 00:40:53,548 Speaker 1: kick them off because you're actually strengthening your heat. And 823 00:40:53,548 --> 00:40:55,348 Speaker 1: that's something as an offensive monment that's gonna help you. 824 00:40:55,348 --> 00:40:58,668 Speaker 1: It's gonna be your base, right and your anchor. That's fascinating. Absolutely, 825 00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:02,228 Speaker 1: my gosh. All right, there's this archaic vision that you 826 00:41:02,268 --> 00:41:04,028 Speaker 1: know people have, like a high school and you've got 827 00:41:04,428 --> 00:41:08,508 Speaker 1: the cheerleaders here, and you've got the class pet over here, 828 00:41:08,508 --> 00:41:10,428 Speaker 1: and then you've got the jocks, and then you've got 829 00:41:10,428 --> 00:41:13,948 Speaker 1: the nerds, and it's not I don't know how you 830 00:41:13,948 --> 00:41:16,268 Speaker 1: could even have any archaic vision when we meet a 831 00:41:16,268 --> 00:41:19,668 Speaker 1: guy like you who embodies everything. And we learned in 832 00:41:19,708 --> 00:41:22,068 Speaker 1: the break that you didn't just play on computers and 833 00:41:22,108 --> 00:41:25,588 Speaker 1: play you built computers in high school. Can you take 834 00:41:25,668 --> 00:41:28,388 Speaker 1: us through what building a computer means and what was 835 00:41:28,428 --> 00:41:29,948 Speaker 1: the reaction from your friends? And you're like, I'm gonna 836 00:41:29,948 --> 00:41:32,788 Speaker 1: go build a computer. So that was absolutely a hobby 837 00:41:32,828 --> 00:41:35,668 Speaker 1: of mine. Something that I was really into when I 838 00:41:35,668 --> 00:41:38,068 Speaker 1: was in high school was computer gaming. So one thing 839 00:41:38,148 --> 00:41:40,068 Speaker 1: you would do is, you know, if you want a 840 00:41:40,068 --> 00:41:42,708 Speaker 1: computer that's powerful enough to you know, play certain games, 841 00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:45,588 Speaker 1: you'd build it yourself. So I'd research the different parts, 842 00:41:46,308 --> 00:41:49,028 Speaker 1: you know, the graphics car, the CPU, and I put 843 00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:51,868 Speaker 1: it together, you know, watch a YouTube video and just 844 00:41:51,948 --> 00:41:54,148 Speaker 1: you know, put put the thing together. What does that mean? 845 00:41:54,468 --> 00:41:56,708 Speaker 1: You have a rewards car to Compusay, Like, what are 846 00:41:56,708 --> 00:42:00,388 Speaker 1: we talking about? So I'd go to like microcenter or 847 00:42:00,388 --> 00:42:03,388 Speaker 1: a nearby like store and look for parts or get 848 00:42:03,428 --> 00:42:05,628 Speaker 1: them online, you know. But now it is the game 849 00:42:05,668 --> 00:42:07,388 Speaker 1: that you were wanting to build this super computer for 850 00:42:08,108 --> 00:42:12,828 Speaker 1: Skyrim Skyrim sky Yeah, did you spend that just eternities 851 00:42:12,828 --> 00:42:14,228 Speaker 1: in there after you built it? That's a whole world. 852 00:42:14,308 --> 00:42:16,868 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I think from my high school 853 00:42:16,908 --> 00:42:21,628 Speaker 1: to like those days, I have over a thousand hours? 854 00:42:21,788 --> 00:42:25,108 Speaker 1: Is that right? Over across over across like five years, 855 00:42:25,188 --> 00:42:27,108 Speaker 1: I have like a thousand What percentage of skyrom players 856 00:42:27,108 --> 00:42:31,108 Speaker 1: you say con Bench two twenty five. I mean you've 857 00:42:31,108 --> 00:42:33,668 Speaker 1: got to be a certain type of guy to play Skyrim. 858 00:42:33,708 --> 00:42:36,828 Speaker 1: So I'd say about Fibers, what type of guy you 859 00:42:36,908 --> 00:42:42,148 Speaker 1: gotta be? You gotta be a tough guy. Play. You 860 00:42:42,228 --> 00:42:44,628 Speaker 1: played it on the computer he built I built it. Yeah, 861 00:42:44,828 --> 00:42:46,668 Speaker 1: I love this guy. Play whatever you want to build it. 862 00:42:47,428 --> 00:42:49,508 Speaker 1: We don't want you to go. Are you goointing? You're 863 00:42:49,508 --> 00:42:53,708 Speaker 1: going to Vegas? I am that I'm excited. Oh my gosh, 864 00:42:53,708 --> 00:42:56,828 Speaker 1: that's fourteen days from now. Yes, yeah, well I'll tell 865 00:42:56,868 --> 00:42:59,668 Speaker 1: you that we are on in all of the facilities. 866 00:42:59,908 --> 00:43:03,708 Speaker 1: In the morning, people are watching coaches front off as 867 00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:06,148 Speaker 1: gms that people, we're making the decision. I'd like to 868 00:43:06,188 --> 00:43:08,788 Speaker 1: give you just a moment, take as long as you'd like. Honestly, 869 00:43:08,828 --> 00:43:10,988 Speaker 1: take as long as you'd like this minute more whatever. 870 00:43:11,028 --> 00:43:13,428 Speaker 1: We love hearing from you and talking to you. Do 871 00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:15,668 Speaker 1: you know you're one of the best linemen in the country. 872 00:43:16,228 --> 00:43:19,788 Speaker 1: Explain to people why you're a building block for a franchise. 873 00:43:20,628 --> 00:43:23,508 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, the tape speaks for itself, 874 00:43:23,508 --> 00:43:25,748 Speaker 1: but outside of that, I would say, I'm a very 875 00:43:25,828 --> 00:43:28,708 Speaker 1: reliable guy. You talk to any of my teammates, my coaches, 876 00:43:29,028 --> 00:43:30,748 Speaker 1: They'll tell you I'm the first one in, I'm the 877 00:43:30,788 --> 00:43:32,628 Speaker 1: last one out. I'm the one that's going to put 878 00:43:32,628 --> 00:43:35,668 Speaker 1: in an extra time on film to get better. You know, 879 00:43:35,748 --> 00:43:38,068 Speaker 1: when I played tackle, when I played center, I had 880 00:43:38,068 --> 00:43:40,628 Speaker 1: to do a lot to kind of learn the nuances 881 00:43:40,628 --> 00:43:42,868 Speaker 1: of those positions, and that took a lot of work 882 00:43:42,908 --> 00:43:44,988 Speaker 1: put in on my own, you know, taking sets on 883 00:43:45,028 --> 00:43:47,228 Speaker 1: my own, getting snaps on my own. So I'm a 884 00:43:47,268 --> 00:43:48,908 Speaker 1: guy who's going to do the extra stuff to be 885 00:43:48,988 --> 00:43:50,028 Speaker 1: the best player I can move