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Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches,
Speaker 1: draft picks, and special guests. Now your host, Brian Bryan Brucks. Well,
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Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're
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Speaker 1: of this thing as we get ready, the commissioner is
Speaker 1: about to open for the second round. I'll introduce everybody
Speaker 1: here again. Dane Brugler joining us here from CBS four,
Speaker 1: David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And now, like
Speaker 1: I said, our one oh five three partners, we've got
Speaker 1: Kevin kat Turner, a scouting buddy, and Jeff Kavanaugh as
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Speaker 1: you've got you've got the four guys together that have
Speaker 1: lived and died this day in a little bit longer
Speaker 1: than Jeff and Kat and I. But we just we
Speaker 1: determined that we were going to make the journey starting
Speaker 1: on December fifth. So boys welcome. As we get ready
Speaker 1: for the start of the second day of this draft,
Speaker 1: we will get into a little bit as we go
Speaker 1: along with We'll fall along with all the teams and
Speaker 1: what they're doing pick by pick, give you a little
Speaker 1: analysis on that. And as we get close to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick again. This will be a pretty intensive a
Speaker 1: lot of draft conversations, a lot of back and forth.
Speaker 1: We're not going to sugarcoat anything for you here. We'll
Speaker 1: tell you how it is. So this we're getting ready
Speaker 1: to go on the clock here with the Packers. After
Speaker 1: the Packers come the Seahawks and Jacksonville Dane. How's this
Speaker 1: thing going to start? Or how do you see? Do
Speaker 1: you see the second round having the twist and turns
Speaker 1: that we had yesterday in the first round. Well, the
Speaker 1: first of all, we have Green Bay at thirty three.
Speaker 1: Are they going to keep this pick or they move it?
Speaker 1: This is a power position. Teams went home last night,
Speaker 1: restacked the board, have a chance to maybe get a
Speaker 1: first round player a player that slipped over the first
Speaker 1: thirty two that might still be on a first round board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what Green Bay does here if they
Speaker 1: want to move the pick, if they get a value,
Speaker 1: or if they stay put and take Dalvin Cook best
Speaker 1: player available, they could Jeffrey Well, I mean, Dalvin Cook's
Speaker 1: not the best player available. But other than that, you know,
Speaker 1: I agree with everything that Dane said. Joe Mixon is
Speaker 1: the best player available if you're willing to take Joe
Speaker 1: Mixing at least Jeff and Brian the perennial criminal drafters. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not a criminal draft or bad character drafter. Be fair.
Speaker 1: You can apply that to either running back that was
Speaker 1: just mentioned at some point in their life. That's a
Speaker 1: very solid point. Convicted. That's that is a fair point.
Speaker 1: Has been convicted. Can I just I and Brian mentioned like,
Speaker 1: you know, is it gonna be crazy? Well, it's already
Speaker 1: crazy because we've been talking for three months. Specifically right
Speaker 1: here at the top of the second round is well
Speaker 1: Cleveland and San Francisco. Maybe the Cowboys try to trade
Speaker 1: back to those spots. Well, Cleveland San Francisco don't have
Speaker 1: those picks anymore because of all this stuff that happened
Speaker 1: last night, So I completely expect the unpredictability to continue.
Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't it went nobody can agree on
Speaker 1: what these boards should be, and so why wouldn't teams
Speaker 1: be trying to move to get different guys? Well, and
Speaker 1: to me, the most fun part about today in this
Speaker 1: specific draft, Oh we're already are we announcing? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: looks like yeah, we're just go ahead, go ahead with FLA.
Speaker 1: I think to me, you know, we come out of
Speaker 1: the gates. And the first two players mentioned are players
Speaker 1: that on town alone could be top ten, top fifteen
Speaker 1: picks in most years drafts, and because of different things
Speaker 1: associated with them, are still sitting here in round two
Speaker 1: for a team that needs a running back. And not
Speaker 1: only that, I think you're gonna hear a lot of
Speaker 1: names tonight that in a lot of other drafts might
Speaker 1: be first round picks. This is it's a really unique
Speaker 1: draft in that Well, that's let's go. Uh, we've gone
Speaker 1: to the podium here in Philadelphia. Ron Jaworski is gonna
Speaker 1: kick this thing off for Uce for U two. To
Speaker 1: our wonderful hosts to Philadelphia, thank you for to watch
Speaker 1: the tape that he does like to watch that tape.
Speaker 1: So we'll get a little announcement here from Rons the
Speaker 1: ones to bring the excitement, the electricity and this support.
Speaker 1: So thank you all of you. I was thinking, you guys, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, all right. I also wanted to thank
Speaker 1: somebody else that you know very well, because without him,
Speaker 1: we would not be here in Philadelphia, without his leadership
Speaker 1: and his love of this city and the vision that
Speaker 1: he had and making this a great thing for the
Speaker 1: NFL and for Philadelphia. You all know the great Eagle
Speaker 1: legend jaws Ron Jeworski. Hey, thank you, Thank you Commissioner,
Speaker 1: and thank you Eagle fans, and thank you football fans
Speaker 1: so much. How cool is this? How cool is this?
Speaker 1: Eighty years ago the first NFL Draft was held in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: No one would have ever thought it would be this
Speaker 1: last night, one hundred thousand people jaming the Parkway. Tonight,
Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand people jamming the Parkway. This is
Speaker 1: a testament to the love and passion that you have
Speaker 1: as Eagle fans, and the passion you have for this
Speaker 1: city and the cities that you represent. All thirty two
Speaker 1: NFL teams now in defense of the Commissioner I know
Speaker 1: a little bit. I know a little bit about the
Speaker 1: Boo Berts, just a little bit. As an Eagle quarterback
Speaker 1: for ten years, I heard that every now and then.
Speaker 1: But I do know this in this city, if you
Speaker 1: do the right thing, if you do the right thing,
Speaker 1: you win this city over. Commissioner, you eventually will win
Speaker 1: this city over. That's time to get this party stuff
Speaker 1: and have some fun in Philly tonight. It's on a party,
Speaker 1: it's a draft. Yeah, we're not here to have fun.
Speaker 1: We're here to pick some serious business. Okay, you guys
Speaker 1: sound like you're ready, So for tonight set the third rounds.
Speaker 1: You're heard. Tonight we're gonna be joined by several of
Speaker 1: the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award winners
Speaker 1: on each team, as well as some select legends. That
Speaker 1: it should be a great night. So you guys ready
Speaker 1: to get started. The second round is now officially open
Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers are on the clock. Well,
Speaker 1: we're on. Jeworski will not remind you of my words
Speaker 1: from Thomas Payne yesterday. Here's an intro was way better.
Speaker 1: I thought so as well. But Ron Jews, can we
Speaker 1: appreciate your commission. We appreciate you opening it up. We
Speaker 1: were talking about the uh, you know, as we look
Speaker 1: at this draft, guys, there's there's a lot of quality
Speaker 1: names on this board. Sure, we're talking. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the one thing when I sat down last night, and
Speaker 1: that's something we and we're taking a peak right now
Speaker 1: into the war room with the Green Bay Packers, with
Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf Thompson, those guys sitting and sitting in there
Speaker 1: and getting ready for this pick. Elliot Wolf was working
Speaker 1: the phones for green Bay. Green Bay hearing that they
Speaker 1: were either gonna make this pick. Of course we've kind
Speaker 1: of projected a couple of guys, but i'd also heard
Speaker 1: some pretty strong words that they were trying to move
Speaker 1: this big for sales sign on. Yeah, Teddy, Teddy Thompson.
Speaker 1: Teddy's thinking more about the depth of this draft in
Speaker 1: the middle. That's something that I think, Kevin, that we've
Speaker 1: gone through throughout this process is the depth of the draft,
Speaker 1: not only at the court, the cornerbacks, defensive line position, safety,
Speaker 1: but really throughout the board. Maybe not so much as
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle, but a lot of depth in this board.
Speaker 1: Oh exactly. Oh, there's a lot of our position. We
Speaker 1: we've kind of connected the Packers to running back. The
Speaker 1: running back is another position of a lot of depth.
Speaker 1: And we only saw what two names go off last
Speaker 1: night for Nette McCaffrey, So it's still a lot of
Speaker 1: names there for you running back, not many offensive lineman
Speaker 1: Gil last night. There's still a deep tight end class.
Speaker 1: So we've talked a lot, you know, especially regarding the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: about cornerback and safety in those positions. But man, on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of things, there's a ton of depth
Speaker 1: at a couple of nice positions right there, running back,
Speaker 1: tight end, in offensive line. Dave Hellman with the depth
Speaker 1: in this draft with Kevin Turner, was talking about any
Speaker 1: reason do you have a number of names under board
Speaker 1: here the Cowboys to go up to get one of
Speaker 1: these guys? Are you talking about the Cowboys? Cowboys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about the gal I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe in an hour and a half, if we're
Speaker 1: in the fifties, maybe, But and this is what we
Speaker 1: talked about all during the lead up to this is
Speaker 1: don't we want to come out of tonight with two starters?
Speaker 1: You'd like to think you could, and is that going
Speaker 1: to happen? It's certainly not going to happen if you're
Speaker 1: trying to trade trade up to here, unless you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of first round picks next year, which I hate
Speaker 1: even more. I you know, maybe if if a guy
Speaker 1: you really like, like a Kevin King inexplicably starts falling
Speaker 1: into the fifties, maybe we can revisit it. But certainly
Speaker 1: up until fifty. I'm standing pat and seeing what happens here.
Speaker 1: I don't like that one bit. They do you agree
Speaker 1: with that? You you're gonna sit there and just are you?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at moving something if he gets close
Speaker 1: to the that pick fifty potentially to give up your
Speaker 1: fourth to maybe move up, but my third's off limits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean potentially even you trade back from sixty if
Speaker 1: there you know, if that's if you get white did
Speaker 1: that or mock drags we went back to Cleveland. It's
Speaker 1: sixty five. I think, Uh, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that picks was trade was that was not was not
Speaker 1: part of the Green Bay No, it wasn't swap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they still hold sixty five. That's a fifth round and
Speaker 1: they still have one forty five, which is what they
Speaker 1: gave us in that trade. Yeah, right, so you can
Speaker 1: get your fifth back that way. But no, I'm I
Speaker 1: am coming out of tonight with two starters at the
Speaker 1: very minimum. Jeff, which what are you thinking about going?
Speaker 1: If you are you gonna pull the corner safety or
Speaker 1: safety corner. I think there's a slight chance it could change,
Speaker 1: but I don't see it happening. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be corner. Safety would be the order now for me personally,
Speaker 1: I think there may be names that if they made
Speaker 1: it there to sixty at safety, I couldn't flip the order.
Speaker 1: Marcus May would be my name or safety to Florida
Speaker 1: Safety because I think I think he's a strong safety. Plus.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about a guy that's going to
Speaker 1: your job is to tackle basically as a strong safety,
Speaker 1: and if you wanted to get that guy, you could
Speaker 1: probably find that guy in the fourth round. But if
Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy that's better than that, that
Speaker 1: does more than that, I think Marcus May is a
Speaker 1: guy that could change my mind on what to do
Speaker 1: at sixty. Maybe for a lot of people Obi Melofon
Speaker 1: who could be that guy. But I think right now,
Speaker 1: as you look at the board and you look at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys visit list, and you look at who might
Speaker 1: be available. You just watch this thing play out and
Speaker 1: get ready to pick your corner. We heard Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: after the Taco Charlton pick at the press conference last night.
Speaker 1: He wasn't shy about it. He said, at sixty, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a cornerback there. There's gonna be a cornerback there.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a cornerback there. And I think he's right.
Speaker 1: I think we have a list of names and we're
Speaker 1: ready to watch how this thing plays out and see
Speaker 1: who's there. Dan, you think that's the shape of the board.
Speaker 1: You think the corners, that's where the direction there. They'll
Speaker 1: get some help. There's no question they're going to come
Speaker 1: away with defensive backs plural tonight. I feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about that. I think there's I looked at it this morning.
Speaker 1: I think there's roughly eight defensive backs that were thirty
Speaker 1: visits to this building. That makes sense at sixty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty two names totally didn't you, Dave, Twenty two of
Speaker 1: the thirty are still available. But you know some of
Speaker 1: those guys are the Teddrick Thompson's of the world. And
Speaker 1: you know Dave Trest and Dave who like guys that
Speaker 1: you're not going to take tonight. But there's at least
Speaker 1: eight dbs that you could take tonight that are still available.
Speaker 1: But we're looking at the packer war room. They're on
Speaker 1: the clock. We're right at a minute fifty five with
Speaker 1: the thirty third pick that'll start the second round. Here
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson has left the room for the packers. I'd
Speaker 1: know that feeling before. And it picks about to kill
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here? Is it not really? Whether?
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you don't I know, you like mixing
Speaker 1: more than cook. But let's say they like cook. Like,
Speaker 1: maybe you just don't overthink this and add a guy,
Speaker 1: I mean a guy that a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: was the top fifteen pick to what is already a
Speaker 1: pretty good offense. Maybe not have time Montgomery be your
Speaker 1: feature back I formed, Jeff. Maybe just don't overthink this
Speaker 1: too much. Oh, I mean, I think they overthought it
Speaker 1: in the first round. If I were the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: I would have already picked Joe Mixon. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with the player and you're willing to have
Speaker 1: him on the board, I would already picked him. It
Speaker 1: looks like they got Dom Capers in the room. Teddy
Speaker 1: Thompson just Dom Capers came into the room and yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the defensive coordinator for the Packers. Teddy said something
Speaker 1: to him. Handshakes all around. Yeah, they've obviously got to play.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Kevin King, Dane Thumbnail and Kevin King.
Speaker 1: If in fact he is the pick, I'll drink of water.
Speaker 1: He's very very lean and that shows at times and
Speaker 1: run support, but he's fast. He blew up the combine
Speaker 1: with his athletic testing. Y'all can play, press, can playoff,
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything. He needs some
Speaker 1: work there, there's no question about it. But he saw
Speaker 1: it reported. He's the only player who's actually in the
Speaker 1: green room still. Ye who attended the draft. There were
Speaker 1: some others Deshauan Kaiser, Woozier who decided to bolt out
Speaker 1: of there after last night. He's the only one that
Speaker 1: stuck around and looks like he doesn't have to stick
Speaker 1: around much long. No, the pick is in for the Packers, Jeff,
Speaker 1: If it is Kevin King, would that have been? You're
Speaker 1: a Tankersley fan, right, I mean you Tankersley more than King.
Speaker 1: I am Tankersley. Tabor Moreau all three of those for
Speaker 1: me personally or ahead of Kevin King. I think Kevin
Speaker 1: King the workout was so big for him. You talk
Speaker 1: about that combine when you have a sixty three guy
Speaker 1: that can prove to teams that he moves that way
Speaker 1: and that he's that athletic. You know, this high in
Speaker 1: the draft, A lot of guys want a really high ceiling,
Speaker 1: and for Kevin King, I think you have that. Other
Speaker 1: guys didn't put together the workout he did, even if
Speaker 1: to some people like myself, they had better tape than
Speaker 1: he did. Kat. I mean we thought Kevin King would
Speaker 1: go pretty quickly. Yeah, if in fact is yeah, he
Speaker 1: was out of the packing that Kevin King is gonna
Speaker 1: be this pick. He was out of the pipe dream
Speaker 1: of lasting until sixty Um. But you know this is
Speaker 1: he could have gone last night. No one would have
Speaker 1: been surprised that Kevin King great athleticism. When he getting
Speaker 1: murdered like the Packers did in the playoffs to Atlanta
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game, you kind of do realize, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we need to address defense. So it would make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to go that route. In the
Speaker 1: secondary Boss Sam Shields, they have plenty of bodies there,
Speaker 1: but it's how many are hurt Randall and Quentin Rollins.
Speaker 1: They're not reliable guys yet, right, there's no consistency there,
Speaker 1: Gunter and House. You know, there's plenty of capable bodies,
Speaker 1: but there's no consistency. And so if you have a
Speaker 1: chance to add a player like Kevin King, if that's
Speaker 1: who that is, let's go to the podium. See if
Speaker 1: that's who it is. Absolutely, let's roll the podium. As
Speaker 1: you can see, I'm joined here by Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: Jim Taylor Ollo shoe along, is he not? Absolutely? Twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft the Green Baby Kevin King, Kevin King.
Speaker 1: Here we go. All right, we've kind of got the
Speaker 1: thumbnail on Kevin King, and this is gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those picks. I think Cowboy fans are gonna look
Speaker 1: at down the road when they had the opportunity draft
Speaker 1: to Kevin King, they did not do that. We you know,
Speaker 1: we're now sitting there thinking about the Cowboys, looking at safety,
Speaker 1: looking at corner. They're coming after our guys the first
Speaker 1: pick of the night. They're coming after our guys, after
Speaker 1: our corners. They're they're just flying off the board. What
Speaker 1: is going on? I mean and that people started asking
Speaker 1: me as soon as I woke up this morning, like
Speaker 1: do you trade up to get Kevin King? What if
Speaker 1: he falls? He's not gonna fall. I mean, maybe he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been the first pick, but like this dude
Speaker 1: was going before for no doubt. Guarantee you they showed
Speaker 1: the highlight from the Arizona State game and that interception
Speaker 1: that he's gonna make the one handed picks, the ball
Speaker 1: skills that he shows, and you know he played safety
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, kind of trying to find a
Speaker 1: spot for him in that secondary just to get him
Speaker 1: on the field. And then this past year with Sidney
Speaker 1: Jones on one side of the field, they threw at
Speaker 1: Kevin Keane quite a bit and he answered, uh that
Speaker 1: challenge and played himself into into this thirty third pick
Speaker 1: right here. Okay, yeah, Dan, Yeah, we got a trade going.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is gonna make a move up one spot, one spot, Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Let's let's see if they got to be offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see if Jacksonville is gonna give what the what
Speaker 1: the Bears did yesterday and moved one spot. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see them doing that. John Schneider forever Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: John Snyder is adding some picks here, my old intern
Speaker 1: at green Bay. But yeah, it looks like now that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is on the clock at pick two thirty four,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Jacksonville's neat yesterday, they take a quarterback
Speaker 1: and run Bordles out of town. I'm ready for that.
Speaker 1: Let's get a quarterback. Should have done that last night. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're preaching the wrong guy here. I think, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I mean no, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all about like Peterman. Yeah, what do
Speaker 1: you want? Yeah, yeah, I do. Actually a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I like Peterman here. Let's like, okay, last night, if
Speaker 1: we look at with Jacksonville, they did add Leonard Fournette.
Speaker 1: We still feel like though offensive tackle, Dane, You've talked
Speaker 1: about that tight end, quarterback, defensive line, and guard. So
Speaker 1: there are two offensive linemen here that would make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense with Forrest lamp or Cam Robinson. Right,
Speaker 1: and so you got you're trying to help your your quarterback.
Speaker 1: Blake Boris has not lived up to that third pick
Speaker 1: you gave him. The stud runner in the first give
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman here, and you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting that the Jaguars went with a running back at
Speaker 1: four and here in the second round they could have
Speaker 1: had Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook. Now what's that? What
Speaker 1: kind of value is yeah? Four? Now, well in this room,
Speaker 1: we would say they took a worse running back thirty
Speaker 1: picks right exactly, and so with something that we'll have
Speaker 1: to watch moving forward how that plays out for him.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I mean anyone else, I think
Speaker 1: his offensive line any other thoughts. Well, if you look
Speaker 1: at the board, Katie, you got anybody else there? You think?
Speaker 1: I like what Dane's talking about there. Again, team needs
Speaker 1: that we've mentioned here, tackle, tight end, quarterback, defensive line
Speaker 1: of guard to the positions that we've talked about, tackle
Speaker 1: and hard So you know any of those guards, Dion Dawkins, Phoene,
Speaker 1: Forrest lamp Um and then a Cam Robinson and you
Speaker 1: know a tackle. These are all the guys take a
Speaker 1: lot of sense on our board. On our board, we
Speaker 1: had we had a Dawkins, Phoenie and lamp As the guard.
Speaker 1: That that's us. Now, Jacksonville could surely have it completely
Speaker 1: different than than us. But at the people have lamp.
Speaker 1: I think on that lamp and that's Dane. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're, you're, you're taking Here's what Jacksonville gave up round.
Speaker 1: They gave a six round pick, which would be picking
Speaker 1: what eighty seven? That's what's Anthony brown Helman. That is
Speaker 1: what actually Anthony Browns won eighty nine. I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: that's where you pick him. That is what a one
Speaker 1: spot jump is supposed to look like. Chicago, That's what
Speaker 1: you're support. That's why you're supposed to pay them. There's
Speaker 1: somebody in a there's somebody in a room right now
Speaker 1: in Chicago that's throwing up in their mouth. They should.
Speaker 1: They're the dummies of the draft. Look, if Trubisky hits,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. That's fair and so time will tell
Speaker 1: him that. Look, we talked about there were three offensive
Speaker 1: tackles we thought we'd go in the first round. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll just Forest lamb by guard for now. Two of
Speaker 1: those offensive tackles went in the first with Ramcheck and Bowls.
Speaker 1: One of them left and if you don't get your
Speaker 1: tackle here, maybe Taylor Molten later in the drive, later
Speaker 1: in this round, or they're just so few tackle options
Speaker 1: to go, So if you see a tackle that you
Speaker 1: think could be a start, you gotta jump up and
Speaker 1: get him. And I think that's what Jacksonville is doing,
Speaker 1: especially in this especially in this tackle class. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: even Cam Robinson maybe isn't a sure thing as a
Speaker 1: starting offensive tackle that's going to succeed in this league.
Speaker 1: But once you get past him, you said it, Moten
Speaker 1: and then there may be guys you like later on
Speaker 1: to have a chance. But in terms of the guys
Speaker 1: that you think could possibly step in and start, it
Speaker 1: was a three man race in this draft, and twenty
Speaker 1: four hours ago you decided that a running back is
Speaker 1: going to be the engine of your football team, so
Speaker 1: you might as well do what you can to get
Speaker 1: a guy you feel good about the block for him.
Speaker 1: And Robinson can play. He's only is a left tackle
Speaker 1: only at Alabama started every single game in the last
Speaker 1: three years. But when you project him to the NFL,
Speaker 1: I think you could see him playing guard. That might
Speaker 1: actually help him keep him off the ground with some
Speaker 1: of those balance issues that he has. But I think
Speaker 1: you think tackles really out of the question with him,
Speaker 1: though not out of the question. No, but when you
Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville and their their death chart, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean Brandon Albert, Yeah, I mean they don't need
Speaker 1: a tackle right away. I mean Albert could play left
Speaker 1: guard and then maybe kick the tackle if needed. So
Speaker 1: I do think there is some position flex with a
Speaker 1: player like this. He could play either or tackle guard. Jeff,
Speaker 1: who would you like better? Would would you? I mean
Speaker 1: we if it came down to one of those guards
Speaker 1: or one of the tackles, which one which direction you're
Speaker 1: going to? I mean clearly you have, like you say,
Speaker 1: Dawkins Phoenie on your board, Dawkins Phoenie lamp or you
Speaker 1: know any anyway, but or Robinson, Yeah, I think for me,
Speaker 1: when you're looking at it, I think there's always a
Speaker 1: positional value aspect to the draft where the Cowboys took
Speaker 1: Zach Martin to play guard at sixteenth overall, and good
Speaker 1: for them because they nailed it and they have one
Speaker 1: of the best guards in football. But just in general,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for what is harder to phil, I
Speaker 1: think I might take a swing on an offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for somebody that you feel better that
Speaker 1: he can step in and start, then I think any
Speaker 1: one of those names of lamp Feenie Dawkins can do it,
Speaker 1: but when you're talking about the harder job to do,
Speaker 1: it would be Cam Robinson. That makes you wonder if
Speaker 1: Seattle didn't care from what Jacksonville did, because they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: I like all these linemen. Let's go up there. The
Speaker 1: commissioners at the podium from the University of Southern California
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Tony Vasselli fitting dully good pick hitting guy
Speaker 1: to announced the pick if it is a tackle. We're
Speaker 1: the thirty fourth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars select Cam Robinson tackle. There you go,
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson tackle. We talked about him, you know, Dane
Speaker 1: Thumbnail ballance issues play and tackle definitely has the balance issues.
Speaker 1: He winds up on the ground, waits too often. But
Speaker 1: for a player that's six six and three and twenty pounds,
Speaker 1: the movement skills are really impressive for a player that's
Speaker 1: so he can move well, he's strong, but again he
Speaker 1: does lunch, he does over extend himself and that ends
Speaker 1: up he winds up on the ground because of that,
Speaker 1: and that's the biggest issue for me with Cam Robinson.
Speaker 1: So if he can fix that then then great. But again,
Speaker 1: three year starter for Alabama. You know he was a
Speaker 1: big part of their success the last three years, and
Speaker 1: you know it's going to a situation where again I
Speaker 1: think he could see the field early if he moves
Speaker 1: to guard. But we'll have to see how Jacksonville plans
Speaker 1: they use him. All right, well, let's uh now turns
Speaker 1: into Seattle is on the clock. We're gonna take a
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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios, Day two of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are on the clock and we're seeing
Speaker 1: right now that their pick is currently in Uh Seahawks,
Speaker 1: uh Dane. We talk about the Seahawks team need to
Speaker 1: get a little bit real quick. We have a trade. Oh,
Speaker 1: we have a trade. The Cardinals came up got the
Speaker 1: Bears pick, so Bears trying to get back some of
Speaker 1: those picks they traded away. Okay, so that's already get
Speaker 1: a quarterback, right it? Probably probably with this might be
Speaker 1: Arizona sitting at thirteen in the first round, thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: we feel pretty good when these quarterbacks would be at Trebiss, Watson, Mahomes. Nope,
Speaker 1: all three going to top twelve. Well they're not gonna
Speaker 1: wait around in the second round to get there, No
Speaker 1: they're not. Arizona was at forty five in this round. Uh,
Speaker 1: they send this pick to the Chicago Bears. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get the trade particulars for you though, real quick though, Seattle,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's go the podium picks in inam
Speaker 1: University DEEPENSI ben Jacob Green. What pick in the two
Speaker 1: thou seventeen NFL Draft the Seattle Seahawks. Mclee McDowell defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner's guy up five talent in this class. If
Speaker 1: he had Solomon Thomas, his leadership, intangibles, maturity effort, we'd
Speaker 1: be he'd be off the board in the top you know,
Speaker 1: five to seven picks. That is so Seattle right there
Speaker 1: to go get a really good player. At a great
Speaker 1: value treading back coming three to four times, and to
Speaker 1: also at the same time just completely ignore your offensive line.
Speaker 1: That's about to say, like to play Devil's advocate. I'm
Speaker 1: very jealous. All right. You got Michael Bennett, you got
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, you got Cliff Avril. Now you got Malik McDowell. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of what you have there. But Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has got to just be confused making a lot
Speaker 1: of money. We think Tom Cable's doing right now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's out taking a wall, don't like, don't you think
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson wonders why Pete Carroll doesn't care about his
Speaker 1: safety or John Schneider for that matter. Maybe they maybe
Speaker 1: they tell him, hey, you just run around anyway, pull
Speaker 1: something out of your butt like you always do. Mcdell's
Speaker 1: six six, play some tackle, maybe somebody's arms. But Molikue MacDell,
Speaker 1: you're right, very talented player. Uh we'll see how you know,
Speaker 1: if if they're able to get something out of him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a it's incredible to watch him play.
Speaker 1: There's it looks some great tape. There's some absolutely great
Speaker 1: tape of him. Okay, here's what the overall Holy smokes,
Speaker 1: this is all right. So Bears recouped a little Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bears recoup a little bit, they got, yeah, recovering they
Speaker 1: get they get a fourth round pickback at one nineteen.
Speaker 1: They get a sixth round pick, which is one ninety seven,
Speaker 1: and then they get a fourth round pick in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, moving back ninth spot. Yeah, from moving
Speaker 1: back ninth spots. So Arizona gives a picks one nineteen
Speaker 1: and one ninety seven, and the next year's four their
Speaker 1: picks in We think this is four quarterback, don't we Guys.
Speaker 1: You don't give up that much unless it is right.
Speaker 1: The lesson I'm learning here is if you want a
Speaker 1: quarterback and you're I mean, you're gonna pay up the butt. Basically,
Speaker 1: you have to know what you're gonna pay a lot.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay a lot. Well, you're gonna pay a lot.
Speaker 1: Are we sure this is a quarterback though? Yes? Right?
Speaker 1: Why would you list for anything else? It's like the
Speaker 1: best available here? Check your board Alman Cook forrest lamp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the top Arizona. We said, we said, we said, uh, quarterback, quarterback,
Speaker 1: wid strong safety to a need. They who's they losing
Speaker 1: the secondary you were were talking about Jefferson, Jefferson to Baltimore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't rule out of safety here. Marcus May, Buddha,
Speaker 1: Baker make a lot of sense. I would just be Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a steep price to pay for any somebody that's
Speaker 1: not calling plays in my opinion, Well that's you know,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dave about the part going up
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Yeah, and what they parted with, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's I'll tell you what you know. And
Speaker 1: kind though I think he's a really good general manager.
Speaker 1: I really really like Steve, but he's he and we
Speaker 1: we talked about it with their team last night. What's
Speaker 1: the one thing? This team has a lot of speed,
Speaker 1: a lot of hitters. It's funny, that's a team you
Speaker 1: talk about ignore their offense. That's a team that likes
Speaker 1: to take defensive players too. So if they do go
Speaker 1: that route, if you were going to pick a secondary guy,
Speaker 1: would Arizona be the team that is willing to actually
Speaker 1: pick the best player and not, you know, not be
Speaker 1: afraid of the fact that he's not six foot and
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds or Baker. This is the
Speaker 1: team that has the honey badger. But that's that's the
Speaker 1: point right there. If there's a honey Badger in this draft,
Speaker 1: it's Buddha Baker. Oh that's exactly They've They've got the
Speaker 1: mold for that. Okay. But the best position on the
Speaker 1: fuel in my opinion for Buddha Baker is nickel. I
Speaker 1: mean that's kind of he's not a true free safety.
Speaker 1: He's not a true corner. He's that nickel. Is that
Speaker 1: kind of what versatility Tyron Matthew does? I mean it
Speaker 1: was see, I mean it can Tyron Matthew be the
Speaker 1: every down free safety and then Buddha's your your nickel?
Speaker 1: A great point. They even care do They just they
Speaker 1: just mix and match and go give us all the
Speaker 1: honey Badgers. They took Dion Buchan and they took a
Speaker 1: Reddick like their old deal is, let's mix and match. Well,
Speaker 1: they got guys who get running, hit. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Cardinals don't like you say, four three
Speaker 1: three four four two like, they don't do that. They
Speaker 1: don't care like they just have guys. They just have players.
Speaker 1: If you know your scheme and you know what fits,
Speaker 1: and you know what you want to do then you
Speaker 1: can do stuff like that. So who's your best quarterback?
Speaker 1: Who's if Kaiser's kais are easy? Still best? Close? Yeah
Speaker 1: for me? Minus night By the ways, Peterman, Katie, you're
Speaker 1: Peterman right now? It's Kaiser. I like Kaiser just a
Speaker 1: little bit more than Peterman. But guys that throw the
Speaker 1: ball to me, the drop off after Watson went last
Speaker 1: night is real steep. And I know Peterman too, but
Speaker 1: I mean, I I mean, Kaiser just bothers me too.
Speaker 1: And Dane keeps telling me you got to watch two
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen tape for what. Look when he had
Speaker 1: t tell me what he did when he was supposed
Speaker 1: to carry the team, supposed to carry the team. I
Speaker 1: mean he Dak was out there getting his team to
Speaker 1: number one Dame. Yeah, back is the standard. Look Kaiser,
Speaker 1: amazing that this one year later he does as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't do it any consistency. And it's tough.
Speaker 1: There's so many variables with that situation, with the head
Speaker 1: coach to this or the supporting cast. And Kaiser made
Speaker 1: plenty of mistakes himself, no question about that. Who's I mean,
Speaker 1: who's the next quarterback off the board? Well, that's what
Speaker 1: I think it's Kaiser. I think it'll be Kaiser will
Speaker 1: be the next I know, I know we have Peterman
Speaker 1: raided higher I I do, I mean I have Peterman
Speaker 1: higher than Peterman's next quarterback. Yeah, he was wide next
Speaker 1: quarter Well, let's say the commission's gonna tell us we've
Speaker 1: we've said quarterback and we've said safety. Let's see which
Speaker 1: one the commissioner will tell us. Who hold us to
Speaker 1: announce see Arizona Cardinal selection. Please welcome from Southern Illinois University.
Speaker 1: Quarterback Jim harden hey Man was a legend. He used
Speaker 1: to beat my team up a lot. I don't know
Speaker 1: this guy brought us it's number seven team he's played
Speaker 1: for the same remembering with the thirty six thick. In
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: select Budda Baker. Give him all the honey Badgers. That
Speaker 1: team for being a team that's not afraid to pick
Speaker 1: the best player instead of looking at combines. And how
Speaker 1: tall a dude is Baschard Bachard Buddha Baker, Well, that's
Speaker 1: another team. The Cowboys get to see them uh in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game and and then the regular season.
Speaker 1: So okay, Budda Baker all five five nine and change
Speaker 1: five nine Lcobs six foot, I am a gigantic five
Speaker 1: six foot Yeah, he's exactly three Cohens. I love this guy,
Speaker 1: but I really do. I I would have loved for
Speaker 1: him to be a cowboy. He's awesome, He's got a
Speaker 1: nose for the ball, he does every like. It's just
Speaker 1: fun watching him play. Having said all of that, why
Speaker 1: is that, like, why did they give up so much
Speaker 1: for this? Is it worth it? They already have Tyron Matthew,
Speaker 1: they have Deon Buchanan. Well, you know Dame was talking
Speaker 1: about Jefferson swearings you're gone and bethea Branch replaceable guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're talking about give as many,
Speaker 1: give as many playmakers on the field as you can.
Speaker 1: You're gonna call me a coward, Brian, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: But I just hate the idea of trading up for
Speaker 1: any Like quarterbacks and pass rushers are the things the
Speaker 1: guys that I'll trade up to get. Hey, if you've
Speaker 1: gone through your whole life at that height and you
Speaker 1: don't feel for Buddha Baker, I do. That's I think
Speaker 1: that's probably part of why I like him. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you pointing that out. Another trade act. Well yeah, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've grown since junior high. So you
Speaker 1: guys like, okay, Buffalo, Wait, we gotta okay. It looks
Speaker 1: like suppose this is gonna be the Los Angeles Rams pick.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the screen right now. It says
Speaker 1: Buffalo is on the clock. So we got another trade here.
Speaker 1: Buffalo is on the clock. It pick two thirty seven
Speaker 1: picks in there. Let's talk about Buffalo. They added uh White,
Speaker 1: Travis White last night quarters so wide receiver, outside linebacker, quarterback,
Speaker 1: and four three defensive linemen. You know they a quarterback
Speaker 1: and they trade it up right right, Dave, they're traded up. No, Dane,
Speaker 1: you almost baited me into that almost. I just don't
Speaker 1: like Tyrod. They're gonna pick a guy that's worse than
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Not only do I love Tyrod Taylor, but
Speaker 1: I love the guy behind him, King Cardale Jones. Ever, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll never never make it. This this has to be wider.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my second round wide receivers and I'm
Speaker 1: Gil and Godwin Hanson for Zay Jones. Those are my guys.
Speaker 1: I kind of got in the in the next there
Speaker 1: and here we go. I mean, he's real quick. Day
Speaker 1: they got the they're now picking the Rams will pick
Speaker 1: at I missed that there. They'll pick it at four
Speaker 1: four and ninety one. They're picking right in front of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Had a feeling about this. The Bills just
Speaker 1: traded away the pick the Chiefs gave them last night. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I had a feeling about this, uh way back
Speaker 1: when the Bills who they hire as their wide receiver coach, Well,
Speaker 1: the commissioner's gonna come to the pack. But yeah, if
Speaker 1: you get warmer in East Carolina wide receiver coach, oh,
Speaker 1: Zay Jones. All right, So Dave Bruler's going out on
Speaker 1: the limb here and he's gonna say wide receiver of
Speaker 1: please welcome from Oklahoma State University two thousand and seven
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductee running back Thurman Thomas, thank you.
Speaker 1: Put the thirty seventh pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select wide receiver Zay Jones.
Speaker 1: Here you go, Dan Briggler, Like I said, they brought
Speaker 1: Carolina's wide receiver coach the no one hired a guy
Speaker 1: just to pick their player. Well, they did it back,
Speaker 1: they did it back in January, so you know it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a great fit. And look, Zay Jones. You watch
Speaker 1: him on film and all the targets go to him.
Speaker 1: But there's one hundred and fifty eight catches, yeah, fs
Speaker 1: record all time, but there's no there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of home run plays, and so you know you kind
Speaker 1: of worried about that. But then he goes to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, goes to the Combine and he lights out.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, who would have thought a couple
Speaker 1: months ago Zay Jones would be what the fourth receiver drafted? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one. We kind of knew who the top three
Speaker 1: we're gonna be. But then after that, I felt like
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a lot of positions here
Speaker 1: in this draft. It kind of became a flavor thing.
Speaker 1: My guys. Carlos Henderson, you got Godwin at Penn State,
Speaker 1: you're a big handsome guy at cal Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 1: There's so many names out there, but Zay Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean one hundred and fifty eight catches now, every
Speaker 1: single one of them seemed like it was a go
Speaker 1: find a hole in his own or here's a screen,
Speaker 1: or only only four only four were over thirty five
Speaker 1: yards out of one hundred and fifty eight. Yeah, Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers are now on the clock, and there picks in.
Speaker 1: This is a pick two thirty eight on rapid fire,
Speaker 1: and we go to commercials that people knowing exactly what
Speaker 1: they want. This is the Brian brought us method. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this. Just hand that card in, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's draft. What are you thinking about? We know who
Speaker 1: we're picking. Pick him. That's what my attitude exactly. Do
Speaker 1: you think that depth of the draft is part of
Speaker 1: that too, because we talk so much about how much
Speaker 1: talent there is between thirty and fitting sixty. I mean
Speaker 1: you got him in right, right, Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1: You got him in arts. By the way, if you
Speaker 1: notice on your screen there, let's welcome uh the Ford
Speaker 1: or the Scouts front office, the coaches from there in
Speaker 1: the Ford Center war room cam there. Uh they're sitting
Speaker 1: here watching the draft gets hold in front of them. Uh,
Speaker 1: look like that they're radio. That's interesting though. Day I
Speaker 1: didn't know day two that we ever wore ties. I
Speaker 1: just remember it might be today. This is a different
Speaker 1: day too than usual day. Yeah, this is this might
Speaker 1: really mean business products. So let's let's let's let's hope.
Speaker 1: So somebody in this two Yeah once again, that's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's your there's your war room cam. It's up. We
Speaker 1: will will take a looks in there. Occasionally you can
Speaker 1: see reaction as picks go. Pay attention if you're with us.
Speaker 1: Last night, I kind of went through the lineup going
Speaker 1: left to right. You really can't see him on camera
Speaker 1: now maybe you can't, but on our TV we can't.
Speaker 1: It's line of Vitell left corner, Jerry Junior right there,
Speaker 1: sitting next to Lionel of course, Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Shy Anderson Shibo as he's known that sitting
Speaker 1: right there, Jerry's grandson, Jerry's grandson, and then Charlotte Jones,
Speaker 1: Anderson and Will McClay. And next to Will McClay will
Speaker 1: be Chris Hall. So that is your war room participants.
Speaker 1: You'll see people appear in and out of the war room,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you can kind of get an idea of
Speaker 1: what direction they might be going when they bring coaches in.
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on that one. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget on Saturday last year, and a couple
Speaker 1: of people brought this up to me. But right around
Speaker 1: when they picked Charles Tapper one on one and they
Speaker 1: picked dak at one thirty five and right in that range,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett starts like pantomiming throwing motions, like he's talking
Speaker 1: to somebody about the way that a guy throws the ball.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, all right, well, this is
Speaker 1: where we're getting our quarterback. This is where you're getting Okay,
Speaker 1: where right now? A commercial break with the with the networks,
Speaker 1: let's talk about out the the Los Angeles Chargers. Uh,
Speaker 1: looking at team needs last night they added Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: the very talented wide receiver from Clemson. If you look
Speaker 1: at their team needs, we're looking at cornerback, free safety,
Speaker 1: strong safety, tackle, guard, and defensive end. They've got to
Speaker 1: protect Philip Rivers. And they went wide receiver in first round. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know my I'm looking at the guards there, Dawkins,
Speaker 1: Phoenie Forest lamp Uh. There's some names to kind of
Speaker 1: keep in mind. I would imagine if they were to
Speaker 1: go offensive lines, they go offensive line, it has to
Speaker 1: be the best player on the board. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: Forest Lamps. Well, yeah, Forrest Lamb's the top twenty player
Speaker 1: in this draft. Yeah, I mean it, Cody. The same
Speaker 1: thing happened to Cody Whitehair last year. Yeah, and Cody
Speaker 1: Whitehair is gonna be go to a couple of Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls and Bears snatching them up in like darn good player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Forest Lamp he last year to the second. If
Speaker 1: if that's the direction they go, then they're getting themselves
Speaker 1: an awesome player. If they don't, then there's a team
Speaker 1: pretty soon after that's going to get an awesome player. Well,
Speaker 1: then they were They're looking right now into Tlasco to
Speaker 1: Tom Telesco. The into the Chargers were really important year
Speaker 1: for Tom to LESCo. I think as a general manager,
Speaker 1: I like what they did with the with the Williams pick,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's us. You know who else
Speaker 1: does Philip Rivers? Yeah, Philip Rivers absolutely, And let's see
Speaker 1: if they Let's see if they in fact try and
Speaker 1: help Philip Rivers here. You know, you've guys who are
Speaker 1: talking about the guards a cornerback. I mean, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks. You know on that board. There's safeties on
Speaker 1: that board as well. But you're Dan. I agree. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you could sit there and you know
Speaker 1: you got Philip Rivers and you're gonna have to make
Speaker 1: this journey to change quarterbacks to one day, much like
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, why not get offensive linemen in place,
Speaker 1: start to build your offensive line so then when the
Speaker 1: transition happens, you're not playing with a bunch of rookie
Speaker 1: offensive lineman with a rookie quarterback picks in and the
Speaker 1: commissioner is making his way to the podium. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: it's me. Commissioner is Yeah, we go on Merriman, Sean
Speaker 1: Merriman and almost Calvoy. He's welcome from the University of
Speaker 1: Maryland linebacker Sean Merriman with in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers got that right Forrest Lamp guard
Speaker 1: West Kentucky. There you go, Forest Lamp, good past, call
Speaker 1: Ice call right there, guys. It's yeah, that's a Dane.
Speaker 1: That's a first round value for you right there. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a four year starter at left tackle.
Speaker 1: You can watch and you can say the level of
Speaker 1: competition in the Conference USA, or watch the Alabama tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go up against Tim Williams against Jonathan Allen, who and
Speaker 1: uh they both said this is the best player they faced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in terms of blocking, So uh, he's probably not a
Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL shorter arms. It just has that
Speaker 1: square blocking skill set which matches up a lot with
Speaker 1: Zach Martin I've used. And that's Look, I understand that
Speaker 1: high praise. I mean, Zack Martin's at all pro, but
Speaker 1: I think this guy can be similar. You plug him in.
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers probably use him as a right guard.
Speaker 1: He can win that job from day one and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a long time starter for him. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: that puts the That's gonna put the New York Jets
Speaker 1: on the clock, and we'll come back and talk to
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Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three
Speaker 1: the Fan Back here with the second round, second day,
Speaker 1: rounds two and three of the twenty seventeen NFL drafts
Speaker 1: WBC Morket Studios. Brian brought us Dame Burglar Kevin KT
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Speaker 1: as we navigate these draft waters. When we were gone
Speaker 1: on break the New York Jets, I said, we're on
Speaker 1: the clock. They made their pick, guys. They went Marcus May,
Speaker 1: the safety from Florida. So the New York Jets double
Speaker 1: up on safeties, which I know that. I know that's
Speaker 1: the guy Jeff loves, and safety's a position we're watching here.
Speaker 1: I'm stealing this point from Twitter, so don't give me
Speaker 1: too much credit. But what does that mean for Calvin
Speaker 1: Pryor in New York? I mean, the Jets just drafted
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams and Marcus May. This hasn't been good. That
Speaker 1: wasn't a Mike mccagnen pick the general manager. Well, let
Speaker 1: me add does and people have suggested, I mean, trade
Speaker 1: rumors have surrounded that guy for a while now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Well great for Calvin Pryor. Sure. I mean
Speaker 1: this is a guy that they weren't going to take
Speaker 1: up with him. They weren't going to pick u his
Speaker 1: fifth year option. I mean, he was already kind of
Speaker 1: on his way out, so this kind of confirms it.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because Marcus May and Jamal Adams. They're similar,
Speaker 1: and Jeff, you're talking about this how they're both kind
Speaker 1: of interchangeable in terms of free and strong. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they have more strong in them than free.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm with you and that I think
Speaker 1: both of them can cover, but you don't really see
Speaker 1: either one as like a true center fielder. But I
Speaker 1: think you can kind of play games and do whatever
Speaker 1: you want with both of them. But to that point,
Speaker 1: if you're the New York Jets and you're trying to
Speaker 1: build a football team and you need a lot of help,
Speaker 1: is it strange that you took two straight defensive players,
Speaker 1: and not only that neither one of them rushes the passer,
Speaker 1: neither one of them plays corner. You picked a couple
Speaker 1: of really good, strong safeties. I'd love to have both
Speaker 1: of them on my team, But you just spent a
Speaker 1: first in a second round pick on perhaps the least
Speaker 1: valuable position on the football field. Keep well, I think,
Speaker 1: and I mean you can read all kinds of think
Speaker 1: pieces about this. I think I would argue, first of all,
Speaker 1: safety is becoming more and more valuable. I mean, you
Speaker 1: saw the money that Eric Berry just commanded. Well, and
Speaker 1: these two can cover, so I think that they're they're
Speaker 1: worthwhile safe. You see what a NEARL. Thomas does for
Speaker 1: a defense in Seattle. So on top, I think, especially
Speaker 1: in a passing league, there's value for good safety, especially two.
Speaker 1: On top of that, if there's one thing that I
Speaker 1: can say nice about the New York Jets, it's that
Speaker 1: they have two really good defensive linemen in Mohammed Wilkerson
Speaker 1: and Leonard Williams. So yeah, I mean, they picked two
Speaker 1: of my favorite players. It's draft. I just think it's curious,
Speaker 1: it's an unusual, it's safety forward. It is I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that very often. But I like both of the players,
Speaker 1: so I guess I don't hate it. I mean with
Speaker 1: you right like, there's discussion going on in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: the Ford Center war room for the Cowboys right now.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, they're visiting there with Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: tight Quarters, you know, trying to maybe talk about exactly
Speaker 1: maybe going up. We'll see. I don't know Carolina going,
Speaker 1: but Carolina is now they have their picks in, So
Speaker 1: let's go the podium to announce see Carolina Panther selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from the University of South Carolina guard Trevelle
Speaker 1: Wharton the fourtieth pick in the twenty seventeen In the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers elect Curtis Samuel wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But I love it. That's awesome. What do you mean
Speaker 1: you love it? That's back to back teams that have
Speaker 1: picked the same position twice in a row. The Arizona
Speaker 1: all the Honey Badgers, get Carolina, all of the well
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife. Let me tell you what they just did.
Speaker 1: If you just heard what he said, Carolina introduced him
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Yeah, okay, they're wrong about that. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: well that's what I'm saying. If you look at Carolina's needs,
Speaker 1: we talked about that McCaffrey at running back, sure wide receiver,
Speaker 1: questionable depth after Benjamin and Funcius, this could be that guy.
Speaker 1: They introduced him as a wide receiver. That's what their
Speaker 1: thing about playing it. But an awesome draft where we
Speaker 1: saw back to back picks of teams kind of doubling
Speaker 1: down on the same Panthers love to double down. I
Speaker 1: mean they tripled down on cornerback last year. Gettleman's not
Speaker 1: afraid to do that. I love this. I'd love Curtis Samuel,
Speaker 1: really funny player. He's good. The game of football boils
Speaker 1: down the one thing and matchups. And when you have
Speaker 1: to look at this offense and you add a Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and h Curtis Samuel, guys that can do so
Speaker 1: many different things to stress a defense, you create matchup problems.
Speaker 1: I'd run the wishbone. Well why not introduced the option introduced?
Speaker 1: I mean the different jet sweeps you can do with
Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, put McCaffrey in the slot
Speaker 1: and then Samuel in the backfielder vice versa. I mean
Speaker 1: the different combinations of alignments and coverages. Well, this pick
Speaker 1: has Natty was on the clock at forty one. They
Speaker 1: traded this pick to Minnesota. This has got to be
Speaker 1: a running back. Hey, Brian, what have you been saying
Speaker 1: all freaking spring? Yeah, well I thought maybe now Minnesota
Speaker 1: did have pick. There's two running backs. Those two running backs,
Speaker 1: that's the question right there. Mike Zimmer troubled running backs.
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer and Rick Spielman were at Dane Brugler and
Speaker 1: I were Norman for the Pro day. But there are
Speaker 1: two running backs on this board, and you know, obviously
Speaker 1: they felt like they could not wait. They could not
Speaker 1: wait at their pick at at forty eight. So here
Speaker 1: we go the fourth round. They get one twenty eight,
Speaker 1: so the Bengals to drop. Minnesota goes seven spots up,
Speaker 1: give up pick one twenty eight, so that now belongs
Speaker 1: to the that's a team that never trades, by the way, Yeah, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: how the heck did they get them to do that?
Speaker 1: And we thought both of them might be interested in
Speaker 1: the same couple of players, So clearly I guess maybe
Speaker 1: the episode does not or they think that they could
Speaker 1: get one of the two running backs at forty eight still,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's not a running back. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: with what needs to be. Yeah, it needs to be
Speaker 1: the picks in again, I have a first round pick. No,
Speaker 1: they know this is their first pick. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the first pick of the draft. So here's pick number
Speaker 1: forty one in the second round. I think it's a
Speaker 1: running back because I was thinking, oh my gosh, they
Speaker 1: were gonna get one of forty eight. Let's please welcome
Speaker 1: from Texas A m University Kingsville twenty ten Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame inductee defensive tackle John Randall. Funny guy, thank you
Speaker 1: with the recorded first pick in at twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings Selact Dalvin Cook. Love didn't wait, Love,
Speaker 1: it couldn't wait for David Cook. Yeah, we thought Mixon
Speaker 1: would be in play for this team. But there a
Speaker 1: better player with less bagsh you think. You think the
Speaker 1: fact that they got the injury the player, but the
Speaker 1: but the injury history there you've you've. Yeah, it's pretty added.
Speaker 1: It about the shoulders, it's it's it's part of the
Speaker 1: reason he's still here. Yeah. You know in the Vikings again,
Speaker 1: they this is their first pick of the draft. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the drafts, Minnesota Vikings. You just got yourselves a
Speaker 1: durn good player, the all time leading rusher in Florida
Speaker 1: state history. Just fun to watch. I mean he is
Speaker 1: really fun. I think when the balls in his hands,
Speaker 1: he's the best ball carrier in this draft. Okay, I
Speaker 1: really do. But fumbling issues, pass protection issues, character issues,
Speaker 1: durability issues. That's why he's still here at forty one.
Speaker 1: But if he can stay on the straight and narrow,
Speaker 1: delmin Cook's a during good player. You got a good
Speaker 1: trade about him. He's thinking, Oh, it's just the burst,
Speaker 1: the game changing speed that he has finished right the acceleration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's tough, you know, I mean, for he's not
Speaker 1: as big as the rest of those guys, a sure five.
Speaker 1: But and also there's the way he catches the ball
Speaker 1: in the backfield as well. I mean it's he's a
Speaker 1: he's a threat anytime he's on the field to take
Speaker 1: it to the house. And I know it to seem
Speaker 1: full as far, seems like Minnesota is a good place
Speaker 1: for him. Get him out of Florida, away from where
Speaker 1: all these you know, prior incidents have happened, and sure,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of get him in a good system
Speaker 1: up there in Minnesota and see what happens. That seemed
Speaker 1: like a real prime spot for mixing both both of
Speaker 1: these teams. I was gonna bring that up too. And Okay,
Speaker 1: I know you want to take the better player, and
Speaker 1: I know Cook has his own red flags, but do
Speaker 1: you think Minnesota was like, hey, we didn't expect to
Speaker 1: have another option other than mixing. Maybe we go get
Speaker 1: the guy that's not gonna get us roasted by the NFL,
Speaker 1: or by the media or whatever you want to say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they dealt out that, They dealt with that a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know they went through all that with uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't want to go down the Adrian Peterson again,
Speaker 1: you think it's no, it's a fair think it would
Speaker 1: that I'm pulling out. I remember that the sponsors pulling
Speaker 1: out if you can get a guy that's not gonna
Speaker 1: draw that much attention. And it's a similar you know,
Speaker 1: talent level. Why not I thought, I really really thought
Speaker 1: that that. I thought Cook would be gone by now.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. So that's why
Speaker 1: I had mixed and penciled into these guys. And again,
Speaker 1: what the reconnaissance that Dane and I were able to
Speaker 1: do well? And look, just because that they were there,
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't receive that didn't get the answers they wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's look into at the Ford Center war room cam
Speaker 1: and Will McClay has moved over. Will usually sits to
Speaker 1: the left of Stephen Jones. He's now in the middle
Speaker 1: of this conversation. So you've got to You've got the primary,
Speaker 1: the primary decision maker right there in the middle. And
Speaker 1: now you're you're talking about Jason Garrett doing his uh
Speaker 1: in the quarterback thing, quarterback thing going on here. You
Speaker 1: can Dack again, let's hope. I wonder if they're sitting there, gosh,
Speaker 1: could they be thinking about a quarterback at at ninety sixty?
Speaker 1: Excuse me, quarterback at sixty? T throw up? No, surely not.
Speaker 1: Or they're just talking about the reaction you saw Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett kind of give you no. He was probably just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the reaction, give me the reaction. After this, we'll go
Speaker 1: out in the yard and throw the picks around. Garret's like, watch,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess with these guys. Yeah, he's probably telling
Speaker 1: the story from last year. Went Home got in trouble
Speaker 1: for reporting on Garrett pantomiming the uh the motion. Well
Speaker 1: they're discussing now. Hey, the Saints, by the way, are
Speaker 1: on the clock right there there. Picks him. Go ahead, Kate,
Speaker 1: you good draft so far from the Saints Marshaun Lattimore
Speaker 1: and then Ryan Ramchick last night. Right, they took a
Speaker 1: good advantage of their two picks that they had in
Speaker 1: the first round last night, and we'll see what they
Speaker 1: go with hearing that with their second pick here with
Speaker 1: the first pick in the second round, because they've got
Speaker 1: two thirds as well. So Saints have a have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of make some Hey here, could they
Speaker 1: go quarterback? And my second round walk I I'm thinking
Speaker 1: Kaiser here, okay, so I think quarterbacks should be on
Speaker 1: the board and Drew Brees. It can only play so long.
Speaker 1: And they also you know, they almost took Rubin Foster
Speaker 1: uh in the first before the forty nine or snatched
Speaker 1: the mob z that Cuningham still out m Yeah you
Speaker 1: know one a player that we all considered a possible
Speaker 1: first rounder. Yeah, let's and let me feed you their
Speaker 1: team needs here real quick. The picks in. But they drafted,
Speaker 1: we got ram Check, We talked about Lattimore that at
Speaker 1: dust one day. They got defensive in quarterback, strong safety,
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, inside linebacker. So Stefan Anthony hasn't really panned
Speaker 1: out for them. Yeah, bust. Why didn't they listen to
Speaker 1: somebody who told him he couldn't play? Well, why don't
Speaker 1: people just let us pick the play? If only because
Speaker 1: you don't own a tie to wear in the draft rooms?
Speaker 1: I could get one, You could get me one. I
Speaker 1: could rent one. We could rent a tie. Wouldn't in
Speaker 1: my two clip ons allowed company in my two round
Speaker 1: mock drafts? Uh? Yeah, I haven't take quarterbacks. We don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a quarterback here. Probably not. Well,
Speaker 1: it picks in and they're walking through the podium, So
Speaker 1: let's go see what New Orleans Saints are doing. I
Speaker 1: think it's to announce the New Orleans Saints selection. Please
Speaker 1: welcome from Michigan State University, a two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductee kicker Morton Anderson. Yes, hey, how
Speaker 1: we're doing guys with the forty second pick two draft.
Speaker 1: Then all of Saints select Marcus Williams. You go cowboys
Speaker 1: term that you're a Cowboys. Fane hurts a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the end if we could do I
Speaker 1: guess thumbnail here, thumbnail on the player. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the end of the true free safeties that you really
Speaker 1: like in this draft? Didn't it in terms of the
Speaker 1: guys that could play that center field? And maybe I'm sure, Dane,
Speaker 1: maybe you have guys in Day three or even more
Speaker 1: today that can do it. But it seemed like in
Speaker 1: this draft you're likeaby Wood and then later I think
Speaker 1: Woods has little bit of it. Yeah, I think a
Speaker 1: little bit of Yeah, we don't like Evans as much
Speaker 1: but Evans is that type of mold. Well until they
Speaker 1: take tackling out of football, right, but just talking about
Speaker 1: that type of place. You know, he's much better in coverage,
Speaker 1: that type of guy. But you know, they see what
Speaker 1: the Saints have done the last two years in the
Speaker 1: second round. Last year they went with Von Bell. That's
Speaker 1: that's they're strong. Yeah. Now they went with Marcus Williams.
Speaker 1: That's their free kind of reworked that safety. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: building their teams from safety for well, hey, we just
Speaker 1: said what the Jets did to Calvin Pryor. What does
Speaker 1: that mean for Kenny Vacaro in New Orleans? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: handle year of his deal. Yeah, that that's that's that
Speaker 1: one has not worked out for them at all. No,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. And that puts the Philadelphia Eagles on
Speaker 1: the clock. Um. We always are concerned when here here
Speaker 1: at dallascowy dot com with the Eagles. Eagles last night
Speaker 1: added Barnett the defensive end to their to their front seven.
Speaker 1: Eagles looking at cornerback, wide receiver, running back, and defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I wonder if this if they took Joe Mixon here
Speaker 1: with it's about saying, what would you do right here, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I always I would not I would I would not
Speaker 1: like it as a person who likes for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to win football games. Yeah, I just I think right
Speaker 1: now we're to spot in the draft where guys are
Speaker 1: getting running backs that belong in the top fifteen based
Speaker 1: on talent. So if that were the pick, I would
Speaker 1: think they're getting outstanding value and they're doing a great
Speaker 1: job of team building, which I would hate to say
Speaker 1: about another team in the nfcas well. Once again we
Speaker 1: take a look into the Ford Center war room camp.
Speaker 1: You know, Steve and Jones now moved over closer to Jerry,
Speaker 1: and it looks like that Jason Garrett, they're they're making
Speaker 1: their case. Wills moved back to his position, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure exactly what they need to do as
Speaker 1: they work their way down the board. Here we're at
Speaker 1: pick forty three. The Cowboys are sitting at pick sixty.
Speaker 1: This conversation to me, has very much the should you
Speaker 1: go up at the feel to it, and it hard
Speaker 1: to just sit there and watch other teams take good
Speaker 1: players in front of venture that's got that's gotta make you,
Speaker 1: don't we get to have more picks yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: you know, and Jerry. And this is where Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is really at his best because he does listen and
Speaker 1: you can see it right now on the cam. He
Speaker 1: is listening to both Jason Garrett, He's listening to Will McClay.
Speaker 1: He said his piece. And now Stephen Jones is chimed
Speaker 1: in two minutes now on the clock for the Eagles
Speaker 1: to have to make their pick. But there is there
Speaker 1: is there. There's a big, big, big discussion going on
Speaker 1: right now. Shout out to my Shout out to my
Speaker 1: work dad. ESPN's Todd Archer, who points out that four
Speaker 1: of the ten guys who have gone off the board
Speaker 1: so far tonight were Cowboys visitors. So yeah, you've been
Speaker 1: tracking that into talk. I mean you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of waiting and seeing if you're gonna get picked clean.
Speaker 1: And it's not been a good start for Dallas in
Speaker 1: that regard. So the defensive backs, there's still plenty of
Speaker 1: them into the Cowboys getting the sixty and having a
Speaker 1: guy that they really like on the board. But I wonder,
Speaker 1: I just want to throw this out there to everybody.
Speaker 1: I wonder when they took Taco Charlton we kind of
Speaker 1: viewed him as maybe a left defensive end type, right
Speaker 1: kind of did we did, But they're gonna start him
Speaker 1: off right. But if you get to sixty and you
Speaker 1: had Derek Rivers or Tias Bowser on the board, do
Speaker 1: you consider a double dip at the defensive end spot
Speaker 1: or you you really if I only if I'm completely
Speaker 1: picked clean at defensive back, Like, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: the what I wish because I'd had the guts to
Speaker 1: pick Tim Williams at sixty, you would, I would too,
Speaker 1: But I mean, I want to see a team run
Speaker 1: by Jeff the gross Daney you want? You want nothing
Speaker 1: to do with him? Nothing? Well, listen, thing Dane has
Speaker 1: to be in every draft room. He's got to be
Speaker 1: because otherwise you're going to run wild and every problem.
Speaker 1: That's that's the discussion going on. I mean, once again,
Speaker 1: will mcclays moved back closer. They're trying to It looks
Speaker 1: like to me they're trying to convince Jason Garrett to
Speaker 1: do something here. They really really are. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: think Jerry, can we get those weed rules change right now?
Speaker 1: Picks in for uh for the Eagles? And are they
Speaker 1: showing Sidney Jones. Ah, there it is showing Sidney Jones highlights.
Speaker 1: Looks like Will McClean has got the beast in his hand.
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out who to draft. How awesome
Speaker 1: He's got Dane's guide right there. How awesome would that be, Stephen?
Speaker 1: Look what Dane say? Look at that. The Philadelphi Eagles,
Speaker 1: they were just showing highlights of Sidney Jones. They might
Speaker 1: be some tipping going on here, but they on television
Speaker 1: early for a red shirt guy. Well, Philadelphia pick forty three,
Speaker 1: they were just showing highlights of Sydney Jones. And so
Speaker 1: we'll see what. In fact, the commissioner, every indication I've
Speaker 1: got to Sidney Jones is that he will not be
Speaker 1: able to play in twenty seventeen. He will be a
Speaker 1: player for twenty eighteen. That consideration for a team that
Speaker 1: needs that position, for it to be your first pick
Speaker 1: at the position seems like a really risky pick. And
Speaker 1: as a guy who's talking on Cowboys Radio right now,
Speaker 1: I support this pick because it's not gonna help him
Speaker 1: this year. We talk about like Brian doing the like
Speaker 1: you do a real pin throw, like we did a
Speaker 1: real pen throw. When Marcus Williams went off the board.
Speaker 1: I'm faking my pen throw all day. Right now. If
Speaker 1: this is Sydney, well, here we go the commission. They're
Speaker 1: gonna walk this to the podium. And again, just for
Speaker 1: you folks who are out there, you know, not watching
Speaker 1: the television, they're showing highlights to Sydney Jones. So let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. Honoring some servicemen and women to announce
Speaker 1: Philadelphia selection. We have several special guests, including Eagles legend
Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski. We are honored to have with us members
Speaker 1: of a gold Star family, Mickey and Chris Frisen, Mickey's
Speaker 1: husband and Chris's father. Army First Lieutenant Demetrius Frison was
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia native and a passionate Eagles fan. He's lost
Speaker 1: his life in combat in Afghanisan in twenty eleven. The
Speaker 1: family has been held by TAPS, the Tragedy Assistant Program
Speaker 1: for Survivors. Thank you, Mickey and Chris for being here
Speaker 1: with us tonight and for your sacrifice. And as you
Speaker 1: all just said, thank you to all our service members
Speaker 1: here and abroad for your service. H Mickey, you and
Speaker 1: Chris have earned the honor of the announcing the Eagles
Speaker 1: forty third pick. Here in the second round, it's all
Speaker 1: Lord with the fifty third pick. And that's twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Philadelphia Eagles select Sidney Jones. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: there you go, Sidney Jones. They chipped that pick the
Speaker 1: television with the history of like, you know, second round gambles,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I'm actually okay seeing him slide off
Speaker 1: the board there. And also I never trust an achilles injury.
Speaker 1: Yeah ever, Okay, so who is going to be our
Speaker 1: mathematician in the room, because here's the bad man. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing that jumped into my brain. Oh, there are
Speaker 1: corners that you could sit and wait. The corners. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the defensive backs are going right now. If you just
Speaker 1: saw a dB go off the board that people thought
Speaker 1: was a first rounder before he tore an achilles and
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss the full season, we think, yeah, how
Speaker 1: soon do you think you need to think about moving up?
Speaker 1: If you want a guy who's a corner that might
Speaker 1: have been a first round pick, that just might be
Speaker 1: a pup guy Fabian Moreau might miss six weeks. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking to me. Jones is gonna miss a season.
Speaker 1: Do you start thinking about that at this point? If
Speaker 1: boy war Room five dbs are off the board already
Speaker 1: and we're like eleven picks into this thing. So let's
Speaker 1: think about the guys they brought in. They brought in Tabor,
Speaker 1: they brought in Moreau, they brought in Tankersley, they brought
Speaker 1: in Quincy Wilson, right, they brought in Woozier, they brought
Speaker 1: in Griffin. I mean there. I mean, they got plenty
Speaker 1: of names. They got plenty of names. But Brian, you're
Speaker 1: a big Moreau fan. I am. I still have him
Speaker 1: in the first round. If it's your pick. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to starting to talk about to figure out a
Speaker 1: way here? Who do you guys like between Tabor and Moreau?
Speaker 1: I like Tabor, but I like them both. I got
Speaker 1: first round grades with both of them. Like Moreau. I
Speaker 1: like Tabor, but I could be talked out of this
Speaker 1: because I did this with Treadwell last year when the
Speaker 1: number said he was gonna bust, I stood by the
Speaker 1: guy and said, I trust the tape. With Taber, I'm
Speaker 1: the same way, but I could be talked out of it.
Speaker 1: It's just tough for a corner Yeah, it's tough for
Speaker 1: a corner. So but well, the Rams are on the
Speaker 1: clock just to kind of get things tidy here. It
Speaker 1: is ain't gonna miss a season. And he just went
Speaker 1: to forty three. You's got to start thinking, isn't it still?
Speaker 1: Isn't it okay? But didn't we think Sydney Jones, Like
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones, was a stretch to even get to twenty
Speaker 1: eight if he was healthy, right, right, but even with
Speaker 1: not healthy, I thought it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a stretch to get to ninety two. The forties, I
Speaker 1: didn't say. I guess what I'm saying is like Sydney,
Speaker 1: It's it's not I mean, it's not quite Jayalen Smith,
Speaker 1: but he's that talented to where the fact that somebody
Speaker 1: took a chance on him so early doesn't really alarm me,
Speaker 1: because he is that talented. Yeah, so it's a good
Speaker 1: long term pick, assuming, but I honestly think it is
Speaker 1: to come back from. I'm relieved that he's gone because
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to deal with that as
Speaker 1: a somebody who covers the Cowboys. I've had enough of
Speaker 1: the red shirt stuff. And even when he gets back,
Speaker 1: does Brian's gonna push that dude around, So don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. But I don't. I don't. I think it's
Speaker 1: a bad pick overall. But and I'm not surprised the
Speaker 1: team would want to spend that high of a pick
Speaker 1: on him because of the potential. So I still don't
Speaker 1: think it's time to panic. If I'm the Cowboys, it
Speaker 1: looks like to me they're gonna sit there. They I mean,
Speaker 1: they had their little pow wow and now they're back
Speaker 1: to chilling out. Plan though that's a plan. Let's just
Speaker 1: hang in there and sit. No, we need sixty. It's
Speaker 1: a deep draft. We're gonna be fine. Here. We're having
Speaker 1: our war room discussions here. We're talking about what about anything?
Speaker 1: Has anything happened? Okay? I thought it was surprising that
Speaker 1: Arizona would jump up so high for a safety, but
Speaker 1: has anything? Has a name gone off the board that
Speaker 1: really surprises you know? So yeah, it didn't. He surprised me. Okay, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair. I'm not overly shocked by anything that has
Speaker 1: happened yet, so I'm comfortable sitting where I'm at. You know,
Speaker 1: these defensive acts, you're gonna start flying off the board.
Speaker 1: I mean, you knew that was gonna happen early, you'd
Speaker 1: go ahead and prepare for that. And which dbs that
Speaker 1: didn't visit do you think you would have an interest
Speaker 1: in because in my in my mind, I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: about Desmond King. Yeah, I think I think they're looking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Desmond. I've always kind of thought Desmond King
Speaker 1: was at sixty. Yeah. But if if you're telling me,
Speaker 1: I still got Tabor and I still got Moreau first
Speaker 1: round grades on the board for me, maybe not for them.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait. Yeah, I'm waiting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know in our room we're hoping that
Speaker 1: Quincy Wilson is one of them. They visited every corner
Speaker 1: you can visit, and their board can be completely different
Speaker 1: than our board, which should probably is, you know, but
Speaker 1: they they've got a good medical handle on what Tabor
Speaker 1: excuse me, what Moreau is. And you know they they
Speaker 1: like we said, they visited tankerously, they visited Wilson, they
Speaker 1: brought all these guys in. I know, it's way it's
Speaker 1: way too soon. We're still sixteen or so picks away.
Speaker 1: It's way too soon. But are y'all starting to think
Speaker 1: about a possibility where you know, they said the last night,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to wait and see what pass Rusher
Speaker 1: would be there at sixty. But are you starting to
Speaker 1: think that maybe a guy I mean, they brought in Basham,
Speaker 1: they brought in Rivers, Maybe one of those guys will
Speaker 1: be there. As long as it's not DeShawn hollyh Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you can pick day Sean hall Light and
Speaker 1: Day three, I mean a solid pick. But Bowser the
Speaker 1: fourth rone, Bowser, Rivers, Basher. I'm very surprised Bowser's still here.
Speaker 1: I want to think I wonder if they would go
Speaker 1: with Bowser here. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, what if they went back
Speaker 1: to back in and that's that's kind of yes. Oh,
Speaker 1: if Bowser's there, I'm all for it. Yeah, take the
Speaker 1: I mean, Bowser's the best players. I mean, we've been
Speaker 1: preaching defensive backs, but you get a guy that's a
Speaker 1: legitimate right in Rusher. And we talk about the players
Speaker 1: that are on this roster. You're at a point now
Speaker 1: where you know, there's a lot of players that I'm
Speaker 1: sure this coaching staff likes. But with Tapper, you've had
Speaker 1: some injuries. With DeMarcus Lawrence, you're talking back surgeries. With
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford, you're talking about where are we playing him
Speaker 1: right now? I think if you added multiple bodies that
Speaker 1: maybe they are going to push people off the roster.
Speaker 1: But the right guy is there? Sign me up? Do
Speaker 1: you trust them to do that base? I mean we've
Speaker 1: kind of talked about, you know, they're not they haven't
Speaker 1: been shy about saying what they want. Do you trust
Speaker 1: them to deviate from that plan that they really want
Speaker 1: to get a dB here, Let's let's think about that.
Speaker 1: We'll come back with that. I want to try and
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Speaker 1: Brian Broader, Stain Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin kat Turner and
Speaker 1: David Hellman. We're working through this draft with you. The
Speaker 1: announcement was just made. The Los Angeles Rams took Gerald
Speaker 1: Everett tied in from South Alabama, and that puts the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears now on the clock and their picks in.
Speaker 1: Let's picked two forty five. So Everett, the tight end
Speaker 1: from South Alabama goes to the Rams. That's their first
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. I really thought that they were
Speaker 1: going to take Juju Smith. Myself, well, we knew they
Speaker 1: needed to get someone to help Jared Goff. Someone helped
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and that's what they did there. And I
Speaker 1: think I've read this on my on my timeline. I
Speaker 1: first thought the king in my mind as well, who
Speaker 1: did Sean McVeagh have in Washington the quarterback tight end
Speaker 1: combination had had Jordan Reid. Yeah, this can be that
Speaker 1: version of the field player. Yeah, exactly. Jordan Reid's a
Speaker 1: heck of a player, by the way, I mean, we
Speaker 1: all know that I'm not telling you. So anyway, Chicago,
Speaker 1: the next the next three picks will be Chicago, Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: and Baltimore. And so the Bears selections in as I said,
Speaker 1: and Commissioner's walk into the podium. We have some special
Speaker 1: guests to make the announcement for the Bears, Chicago's Walter Payton,
Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year, Sam at Joe, and former
Speaker 1: Bears center Jay Hilgenberg. Thank you. The NFL's continue to
Speaker 1: support the Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital helps ensure that
Speaker 1: all kids have a chance to place sixty. For the
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Speaker 1: tonight to announce Chicago's pick is Kate Foster. Kate is
Speaker 1: an eighteen and a competitive gymnast from Rockford, Illinois. She
Speaker 1: lost her leg in an affection during treatment, but overcame
Speaker 1: her illness and returned to the gym less than one year.
Speaker 1: Just the heart of a champion, we got right here.
Speaker 1: Kate has benefited from doctors and staff at St. Jude
Speaker 1: and Kate, you are a true inspiration for all of us. Definitely,
Speaker 1: it's out standing, out standing, Okay, let's make the pick. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: With the forty fifth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears select Adam Shaheen tight end Ashland Oh Dan,
Speaker 1: just go ahead, Dane, everybody just step back, step back,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. He's gonna outplay this draft spot.
Speaker 1: How did he last this long? Come on? Go ahead, Dane?
Speaker 1: Like all right, Dane, if you were in a war room,
Speaker 1: where would you have picked him? If you were, if
Speaker 1: you were a general manager, where would you if you
Speaker 1: were Well, I just don't know. I'm serious. The draft's
Speaker 1: all about value, Okay, right, I knew I could get
Speaker 1: him in the forties, so I mean I drafted him
Speaker 1: around this, around this range. But look, you drafted the
Speaker 1: young quarterback in the first right, Okay, you get the
Speaker 1: young tight end here. I mean, these guys are going
Speaker 1: to grow together. This they got there Jason Witton in Chicago,
Speaker 1: you know, not just a safety valve, but can be
Speaker 1: a playmaker for that offense. That he could really grow
Speaker 1: into that type of role. I'm really excited to see
Speaker 1: Shaheen and Trubisky see how they can grow together in Chicago. Well,
Speaker 1: that's it. Adam Shaheen tied information really outstanding in line
Speaker 1: tied end too. Guys six seven, two seventy five pounds
Speaker 1: that run a four seven. It can block like you can.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just hard because on the Division two tape,
Speaker 1: you know we've said it accountants and lawyers. Well, I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of assistant managers at mall kiosk those
Speaker 1: two and those two exactly. So how do you how
Speaker 1: does that translate? I mean, how do you possibly evaluate
Speaker 1: the tape when and the intrigue here is usually when
Speaker 1: we have Division two players or small school guys, we
Speaker 1: have the Senior Bowl, we have the Shrine Game, we
Speaker 1: have the postseason All Star games to evaluate the small
Speaker 1: school guys up against fps competition. Because Shaheen was a
Speaker 1: junior that came out early, we didn't have that with him,
Speaker 1: so just an extra variable. But that tells you how
Speaker 1: good this guy is. He goes top fifty as a
Speaker 1: junior and came out early from the Division two level.
Speaker 1: I love this pick for the Bears. So with that pick, yeah,
Speaker 1: Adam Sheheen, he is gonna go to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: That pick two forty five that puts the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: on the clock and it looks like their pick is
Speaker 1: in at two forty six. Got Hooker last night at fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about Katie. You've got some of their needs right
Speaker 1: there in front of you. Yeah. Cornerback is the one
Speaker 1: that jumps off the table there. They could probably use
Speaker 1: a running back as well as well as someone on
Speaker 1: the edge. I thought that maybe you said the word cornerback.
Speaker 1: That kind of scares Cowboy fans a little bit here,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, the cornerbacks have been starting to
Speaker 1: fly off the board a little bit over the last
Speaker 1: five picks. With Sidney Jones, we've had some safeties, I mean,
Speaker 1: defensive backs. Marcus Williams off, take a woozy or Quincy
Speaker 1: Why don't you take one that I don't really want
Speaker 1: to fall to me? Go ahead and do that. That'd
Speaker 1: be great. So you're saying stay away from your your
Speaker 1: tankers lead, I'm saying leave alone, tankers lead, leave alone, Moreau,
Speaker 1: leave alone, Tabor, leave my three guys alone, and go
Speaker 1: try to fix your secondary. That's what I'm saying. Fix
Speaker 1: your secondary with guys that I don't think are right. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: other people do. There's people who wanted Quincy Wilson in
Speaker 1: the first round. There's yeah, there's people who told me
Speaker 1: that a Woozier was going in the first round, right,
Speaker 1: go get them, guys. Are you throwing shade on those
Speaker 1: people now, Jeffrey, I would. I don't throw shade. I
Speaker 1: like to have conversations with my friends. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: happy to be here with you guys mostly Hellman, but
Speaker 1: you guys appreciate well, that's a yeah. The uh I'll
Speaker 1: talk about you know, Chris Ballard, though you gave him
Speaker 1: a lot of praise last night, he took that he
Speaker 1: took the right player. You got to steal the first
Speaker 1: round yah last night, and for the first pick ever
Speaker 1: as a general manager to get a guy like imagine
Speaker 1: the pressure on him. But he was ready for that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know he's been ready for this some
Speaker 1: war rooms and stuff like, he's been around. He's been
Speaker 1: waiting for this spot for a long time. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind, Indy was prepared for this draft,
Speaker 1: led by mister Ballard. Eager to see what they do
Speaker 1: here because they need a lot on defense still. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they went went to safety last night. Still
Speaker 1: need help. A corner could use some helping the trenches,
Speaker 1: another pass rusher. Plenty of options they can go here.
Speaker 1: Bowles are still on the board. Top corners A Woozier
Speaker 1: and Tankrousley, Quincy Wilson, tabors still around. Plenty of options,
Speaker 1: plenty of options here. Okay, so the order will be
Speaker 1: as we like, say, the pick for the Colts is in.
Speaker 1: They just on a break right now on TV. Works
Speaker 1: pretty good about that, Yeah, stretch it out out a
Speaker 1: little bit. Stretch it on out here. We got the Colts,
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Cincinnati. Let's talk about Cincinnati a little bit here. Boys. Oh,
Speaker 1: we can guarantee that pick, can't we? I think we
Speaker 1: have to. That's an easy on. Brian's been calling that
Speaker 1: pick since March. At least. This a Joe Mixon spot.
Speaker 1: Yep ye, it's like low hanging fruit there. I mean
Speaker 1: you think you, I mean, after Jeremy Hill season that
Speaker 1: he just had, I think I didn't have to soon
Speaker 1: have to slander the ls you guys, the guy, the
Speaker 1: guy had a little good run there. It appears to
Speaker 1: be over and mixing, goes Tocinnati. It'll be the one
Speaker 1: pick in my second round mock that I actually get right.
Speaker 1: You went ahead and mocked that one didn't. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because it makes too much sense. They need a running back,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill. We got Indy making up here podium. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we got time. They're just gonna yeah, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a five minute speech before we get the pick. So
Speaker 1: with the six at twenty seventeen NFL Draft Coast Nation
Speaker 1: selicts Quincy Wilson, Jeff Florida. There we go, y'all. I
Speaker 1: really like what ballards do in they're in Indian apples.
Speaker 1: Y'all did not like this guy, and I would like
Speaker 1: to know why. I just think, you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: think you watch a guy and you've seen where some
Speaker 1: people have him ranked before you watch him, and so
Speaker 1: then when you write down what you think about a guy,
Speaker 1: you end up having a battle, which I tried not
Speaker 1: to this year. I tried not to battle. I tried
Speaker 1: not to dig in on guys and like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't like him, but I like you did with golf,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because what happens then is you dig way
Speaker 1: and when the guy can't put over your head. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: and Quincy Wilson was one of those guys that I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were really high on you
Speaker 1: look at a guy that's what six one two thirteen,
Speaker 1: and he didn't measure bad. But I think on tape,
Speaker 1: when you watch guys that can run routes, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was hard to separate from Quincy Wilson, especially
Speaker 1: on inside breaking routes. And I just I didn't feel
Speaker 1: great about him in man coverage. Dan, you think he's
Speaker 1: a safety. I think he might be best as a safety,
Speaker 1: not that he can't play corner. I just think he
Speaker 1: might be best inside. And the key word, I think
Speaker 1: that Jeff uses separating separation. That's what you when you
Speaker 1: watch this film, you see it all the time. Especially
Speaker 1: I think the crisp route runners at the top of
Speaker 1: the route, they were able to create that separation, create
Speaker 1: that spacing. And he's always on his heels. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have a great feel for that spacing to close the route,
Speaker 1: anticipate what's going to happen, the different patterns. And that's
Speaker 1: and he has the size of a safety six one
Speaker 1: and a half two eleven. You know he's a mid
Speaker 1: He was like a four or five six type of athlete.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean to me, Quincy Wilson might be
Speaker 1: a better safety than corner, but I think they drafted
Speaker 1: him as a corner. I found him to be a
Speaker 1: very sluggish player. Let's go the podium. We got the
Speaker 1: commissioner for the Ravens at two forty seven to announce
Speaker 1: see Baltimore Ravens selection. Please welcome from the University of
Speaker 1: Maryland wide receiver Jermaine Lewis. With the forty seventh pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser. We lost one. There you go down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser. Remember that little bit of time when Jermaine
Speaker 1: Lewis was good. Classic? That was a fun little stretch
Speaker 1: in the Classic. Baltimore too. Take a guy that Dallas likes. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's Ozzie. Baltimore has been doing that for years. They
Speaker 1: got him on Dez Bryant. That one year, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: got him on Dez Bryant. Other than that, Ozzie's pretty
Speaker 1: much been in the back pocket. I'm as Cowboys and
Speaker 1: I'm not doubting Tias Bowser, but I'm gonna throw him
Speaker 1: in that category with Buddha Baker where I'm just like,
Speaker 1: probably a good player, probably wouldn't meet his potential in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Good for him for avoiding that fate, but it might
Speaker 1: be one of the guys that we talked to Steven
Speaker 1: Jones today and he was talking about t J. Watt
Speaker 1: and he said, you know what we do, is we
Speaker 1: he said, we'd discount guys if it's guys that we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask him to do something we haven't seen. And
Speaker 1: so how would they value Taias Bowser, who you would
Speaker 1: be asking him here to put his hand on the
Speaker 1: ground and rush and you haven't really seen it on tape.
Speaker 1: Throw TJ. Watt in there too. I would feel so
Speaker 1: bad for one of these guys if we drafted him
Speaker 1: to be a war daddy pass rusher. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean this in a bad I'm not trying to disrespect
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilbur, but he turns into Kyle Wilbur in the
Speaker 1: sense that he's a man without a home and he's
Speaker 1: okay at linebacker and okay at rushing the passer, but
Speaker 1: not amazing at any of it. And go play in
Speaker 1: at three to four and make some real plays. I
Speaker 1: just think he's better off. We look at the Ford
Speaker 1: Stent of war Room, Cam Will McClay has moved to
Speaker 1: the back row, the back bench area. He looks like
Speaker 1: that he is working his foam. Here's the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: pick at two forty eight. We think this is Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: I called this one a while this on January MS
Speaker 1: to make the pick. To announce the Cincinnati Bengal selection,
Speaker 1: please welcome from the University of Southern California nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: eight Hall of Fame inductee offensive tackle Anthony Munos. Thank
Speaker 1: you Roger. With the forty eighth pick in the two
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Joe Mixon, running
Speaker 1: back Oklahoma. Joe Mixon, Do this brought us? That's too
Speaker 1: much sense. That's the best value pick so far in
Speaker 1: the draft. Malie Cooker at fifteen and Joe Mixon at
Speaker 1: number forty eight, the same Joe Mixon that was at
Speaker 1: number three on my big board. It's kind of ironic.
Speaker 1: We thought Joe Mixon would go forty one or four
Speaker 1: eight d he won to Cincinnati, but he goes forty
Speaker 1: eight to Cincinnati. Yeah, ironic, but yeah, this is an
Speaker 1: organization that has I don't care and no problem take
Speaker 1: a problem character guy. They they they they they build
Speaker 1: their team, pretty jealous, coached the team. Hey, nobody bothers him.
Speaker 1: They got one guy and dot com. Yeah at one
Speaker 1: guy writing stories. One guy at one guy and that guy.
Speaker 1: He gets a nice credential to the combine every year
Speaker 1: and gets to go wherever he wants because he's the
Speaker 1: one guy. Yeah. So well, here's the other thing about.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about. Here's the other thing about
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon and Dane or Brian. I'd be curious to
Speaker 1: hear your guys takes on it, because I feel like
Speaker 1: you talked to a lot of NFL people and you
Speaker 1: guys were at the pro day for Oklahoma. Everything I've
Speaker 1: heard is that the dude made a big mistake when
Speaker 1: he was eighteen years old. That he's getting positive reports
Speaker 1: from a lot of people. So what do you hear
Speaker 1: about him? Is he a massive character risk or did
Speaker 1: he do something terrible when he was eighteen? They were
Speaker 1: walking around talking about the coaches. You can see the
Speaker 1: coaches were filtering through the room right at their at
Speaker 1: their indoor place talking you try anybody wanted to know
Speaker 1: about Joe Mixon. They were talking about Joe Mixon and look,
Speaker 1: Joe's not Solomon Thomas or you know, he's not Say Jones,
Speaker 1: He's not Jamal Adams in terms of he's not that
Speaker 1: type of kid. You know, he's he did make a
Speaker 1: terrible mistake and he's not It's something that he's it's
Speaker 1: been a burden for him obviously that he put on himself.
Speaker 1: But everything you do here from the coaches at Oklahoma
Speaker 1: is that he has done everything he needed to do
Speaker 1: inside the football facility outside the football facility, and I
Speaker 1: don't think the Oklahoma coaches would say that, tell that
Speaker 1: the scouts if it wasn't true. This is a player
Speaker 1: who knows he has a target on his back and
Speaker 1: so I would be surprised at this point if he
Speaker 1: found trouble again. But you just never know. And that's
Speaker 1: why he's we're talking about him as a forty eighth
Speaker 1: pick and not the twentieth pick. Well, and because he's
Speaker 1: my guy, Can I go thumbnail real quick for anybody's not,
Speaker 1: absolutely go for it with Joe. And the reason I
Speaker 1: think he's the best running back in this draft is
Speaker 1: I think when you look at a guy like Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: who dangned that was your top running back right for me.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon offers the same sort of things, where it's
Speaker 1: a guy that he can do any run that you want.
Speaker 1: He's fast enough, the vision, the patience, tough to bring down.
Speaker 1: You can line him up in the slot and he'll
Speaker 1: run routes. He catches it easy. I think he has everything.
Speaker 1: Plus he has the exact frame that you would want
Speaker 1: from a starting NFL running back. What is about six
Speaker 1: one twenty five. I think he's almost a prototype. Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook probably hit you more home runs, which is why
Speaker 1: his combine was so confusing to me, how he measured
Speaker 1: so unathletic. Dalvin Cook probably a bigger home run hitter,
Speaker 1: but Joe Mixon sturdier, healthier. I love the patience. I
Speaker 1: love the ability to explode when he finally sees what
Speaker 1: he wants. As a receiver, he's not a receiving running back.
Speaker 1: He catches it like a receiver. If you're a team
Speaker 1: in the AFC North, you're throwing your pen down. You
Speaker 1: don't want to see this. And who the Bengals ad
Speaker 1: in the first round, John Ross Ross. So you went
Speaker 1: to that offense, you're gonna add John Ross and Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: Who my counter to that though, would be what's your
Speaker 1: offensive line? Look like? They have drafted a lot in
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and those there's a lot of unproven there.
Speaker 1: Say do we feel good about those? Though? I don't
Speaker 1: know how you could. Yeah, but they're just gonna say,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you have two seconds, you have one point
Speaker 1: seven seconds that I trust Russell Wilson to make it
Speaker 1: work with a patchwork line way more than I trust
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton there, But I mean, yeah, and yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you could argue against
Speaker 1: the value. Obviously, you know, there's a whole other conversation
Speaker 1: to have about the off field stuff. But as we've
Speaker 1: been saying for three months, if there's one, if there's
Speaker 1: two organizations that could handle the heat, it's this one
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, and this one doesn't need a running back.
Speaker 1: So that was kind of easy to call. And look
Speaker 1: at the Bengals, Jeremy Hill, Giovanni Bernard, they both averaged
Speaker 1: under three point eight yards per carry. I mean they
Speaker 1: both had disappoint Jeremy Hilts as likely as last year.
Speaker 1: And Cincinnati Bernard, I think he has two more years
Speaker 1: left on his deal, So I just add another horse
Speaker 1: to the stable and that running back the chart. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the pody and now the Redskins are in it.
Speaker 1: Picked two forty nine Clinton Portis. I love Clinton Portis.
Speaker 1: He was to Washington Redskins selection. Please welcome from the
Speaker 1: University of Miami running back Clinton Portis. Pick. With the
Speaker 1: forty ninth pick in the twenty seventh seen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins select Ryan Anderson, lying back in Alabama.
Speaker 1: They got Ryan Anderson double dip on Alabama players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ideally not a not a I mean it's not a
Speaker 1: bad idea. Hey, just pick a bunch of Alabama guys,
Speaker 1: not a cowboy target. So at this point, I think
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get to sixty, you look at
Speaker 1: that pick and you say, okay, that'll work. Good perspective, Jeff,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear. Keep moving. Pick guys
Speaker 1: that we don't care about, and he has certainly one
Speaker 1: not a bad player. You look at that Alabama defense,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the guys really jump out at you.
Speaker 1: You're Jonathan Allen's and you're Ruben Fosters and some of
Speaker 1: the guys are out there doing their jobs. But when
Speaker 1: they flash at you, It's like, Okay, you know in
Speaker 1: the NFL, what do you do, Dan? You stand him
Speaker 1: up outside linebacker with Ryan Anderson. That's his best fit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's a true three down player.
Speaker 1: But this dude, he's the most intense. Yeah. I have
Speaker 1: no problem saying he's the most intense player in this draft.
Speaker 1: All right, this dude, is you talking about having a
Speaker 1: killer instinct? Did you hear Tach McKinley on TV? Yes,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm but I'm saying when you
Speaker 1: talk about having killer instinct, I worry like this guy
Speaker 1: means it, Like this dude wants to like kill people
Speaker 1: out there. He'dezle Oh boy, oh you had to go there,
Speaker 1: didn't we. That's jump Kavanaugh one oh five three? Can
Speaker 1: we dump that on now? Okay, Now, I mean he is,
Speaker 1: like Ryan anders is, an intense player. I mean he's
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the kind of the orchestrator of
Speaker 1: that the incident with Deshaun Watson and the Uscaloosa restaurant.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just he is such a competitor. I
Speaker 1: want him in my locker room. I'm just not sure again,
Speaker 1: is he a true three down players? An outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: probably a three to four, so he's going to I
Speaker 1: think a good fit where you know they're gonna use
Speaker 1: him right in that defense. But uh, surprise, they took
Speaker 1: him over maybe a Zach Cunningham or some of these
Speaker 1: other players. Yeah, that's my man, Zach cunning him. I
Speaker 1: kind of thought he would have been picked by now,
Speaker 1: but in fact, he is still on the board. Okay.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is walking to the podium with the selection.
Speaker 1: It's the second round. It's the fifty selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from Purdue University. Oh, fullback Mike Golfstad. They're bringing out
Speaker 1: all of my heroes from the nineties. I love it.
Speaker 1: I ninety eight m Right. With the fiftieth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select
Speaker 1: Justin Evans, defensive back Texas saying, oh, I got a
Speaker 1: chair from Jeff Cavanaugh. Yes, that's a fake pen drop
Speaker 1: right there. Okay, Yeah, so Justin Evans, man, you guys
Speaker 1: can tell everybody about the potential. You know, it's an
Speaker 1: A and M kid, So I want him to have success.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the Buccaneers, who just signed JJ
Speaker 1: Wilcox away from the Cowboys kind of interesting. We watched
Speaker 1: Wilcox for his first few years really struggle with angles
Speaker 1: and tackling. Justin Evans is the worst tackler that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in four years of study. He's the worst
Speaker 1: angle taker I've ever watched in four years of study.
Speaker 1: If the running back or the receiver changes direction at all,
Speaker 1: Justin Evans is running by and running into somebody on
Speaker 1: the sideline. But that dude plays in one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, and when he connects, he connects. Hey, te's
Speaker 1: you right? Yeah, yeah, he's exactly right. You just described
Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox. I didn't miss way more than Wilcox. I
Speaker 1: don't think he was going to go that early. I
Speaker 1: hope Justin Evans family is not listening to us, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: says Dane always says, these kids have parents. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: look at this Justin Evans listening, guys. A little bit
Speaker 1: of coverage ability, you know, team's really gone to get
Speaker 1: He's been a positive, he's really he's a punishing hitter.
Speaker 1: Might force some turnovers, force and FuMB so a lot
Speaker 1: of things to like out there, mister and missus Evans.
Speaker 1: I thought they did some good things. It does some
Speaker 1: good things. Their family. Their kid just got picked in
Speaker 1: the top fifty. They're not listening to us. He's a
Speaker 1: very good athlete, he really is, and he will flash
Speaker 1: some plays. He's like the poor man's version of Blee Cooker.
Speaker 1: You know, he's has a lot more issues and run
Speaker 1: support um and I do not trust him as a tackler,
Speaker 1: and that's why I graded him so low on my
Speaker 1: board because I need a safety I can trust, and
Speaker 1: really I wouldn't would. I don't think anybody would be
Speaker 1: surprised if they try him at corner because I think
Speaker 1: he has the athleticism to do it, and you're not
Speaker 1: gonna trust him and run some play. I thought you
Speaker 1: wanted that another A and M kid at corner, Speedy Noll,
Speaker 1: both of them. The good news is that was a
Speaker 1: Cowboy visitor and you can't have him at So that
Speaker 1: was awesome, great pick. Great pick with Justin Evans. We
Speaker 1: thought that might be a target for the Cowboys, even
Speaker 1: in the third round. But I thought he might go
Speaker 1: in the second. I didn't think you go top fifty.
Speaker 1: It's pretty rich with some of these other players still
Speaker 1: still around, he can take this opportunity to re stack
Speaker 1: our board here, ye, let's do it. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: We're we're hey, this is perfect actually because we're ten
Speaker 1: picks out. Yeah, do ahead. And Dan, you gotta get
Speaker 1: an idea where you got top pick or top Jeff,
Speaker 1: you could do the one oh five three board or
Speaker 1: Kat what do you guys got that? Yep? My top
Speaker 1: five right now is that Cunningham linebacker from Vanderbilt. Deshaun
Speaker 1: kais at the quarterback, Chad Hanson widers here from cal
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson pass rusher Auburn, and then Terrell Bash him
Speaker 1: the pass rusher from Ohio, and then right after that,
Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau the corner from UCLA. Okay, for the for
Speaker 1: the fanboard that which which was put together by myself
Speaker 1: brought uson, Jeff Cavanall, let me just knock out the
Speaker 1: first round grade real quick, Tim Williams, Carl Lawson, and
Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham along with Tease Tabor and Fabian Moreau. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're looking at those cornerbacks for sure. I think
Speaker 1: that with Tabor and then and then Monroe, and then
Speaker 1: I got another second round corner on the board Cordray Tankersley,
Speaker 1: and I've got Dez King at safety. Yeah, from Iowa.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think we need to sit. I
Speaker 1: mean the same things. I was actually I was actually
Speaker 1: about to criticize the Cowboys and say, hey, you said
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a pass rusher, but there would be
Speaker 1: a corner. But your dbs are dropping like flies and
Speaker 1: your pass rushers aren't. But between what y'all just read me,
Speaker 1: that's about at least six names that I like. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I also I do have this, uh, I have this
Speaker 1: recurring dream where the Cowboys forget how much they care
Speaker 1: about arm length and how tall a guy is at
Speaker 1: defensive end, and they just sneak up to the podium
Speaker 1: there and they say, hey, we're taking Carl Lawson's accurring
Speaker 1: dream of mine. I don't they're sticklers for that stuff, though.
Speaker 1: I don't think they don't think they feel right now though,
Speaker 1: how do you think they feel right now? If, in fact,
Speaker 1: though that Basham and rivers get to them, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They could. I mean, they sold us all,
Speaker 1: and they sold us last night that this that that
Speaker 1: wouldn't happen. I mean, here's the tough part, though, is
Speaker 1: that both visited. Tough part is that you can't do that. No,
Speaker 1: And you're right, right, you're right. I agree, don't know
Speaker 1: that hindsight's twenty twenty. I agree with that, but this
Speaker 1: you did not like the taco I didn't like to pick.
Speaker 1: But I can't kill them because of who ends up
Speaker 1: being at sixty because they had no idea. But don't
Speaker 1: you know like they drafted that way a little bit
Speaker 1: last night? No? There, Well, they drafted because they thought
Speaker 1: a corner would be there. And they're right the corn
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a corner they will have. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have a safety too, I believe, Yeah, I mean if
Speaker 1: it depending on what you think. They're gonna have Melofo
Speaker 1: woo on the boards. They're gonna have woods on the board.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have Jones on the board. You know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have Desmond King as a possibility as a safety?
Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Right? They got second round?
Speaker 1: They got second round. They got two first round potential
Speaker 1: corners and a two second round cornerbacks, right or wrong? Quick?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? More tankers? Lee Tabor, y'all take one
Speaker 1: of those quick before you keep that thought. Yea, Broncos
Speaker 1: are going about to make the pick. Here at two
Speaker 1: fifty one to announce thee Denver Broncos selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from Syracuse University two thousand and ten Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: inductee running back Floyd Little. I don't know this guy,
Speaker 1: Ronis he was good. We're the fifty first pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand Summit Team NFL Draft. The Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: select Marcus Walker, defensive end Florida State. Den Marcus Walker
Speaker 1: de Marcus Wal Marcus State. Kind of think a better
Speaker 1: three technique than an outside player. Uh absolutely, but you
Speaker 1: could watch if you if you watch the Old Miss game,
Speaker 1: that opening game, it was a show. He was. He
Speaker 1: was Old Miss backfield the entire night. Uh So, think
Speaker 1: he's a better again, better inside player than out. Broncos
Speaker 1: have got a pretty stout pass rush as is. You
Speaker 1: know here, you put this guy inside, you might get
Speaker 1: some good at it. That gil interior pressure. Yeah. Is
Speaker 1: he a kind of a rotational player though, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I think he's a situational defensive tackle pass round.
Speaker 1: I agree, that's what I think. And that's interesting because
Speaker 1: you're talking about the guy who led the NC DOUBLEA
Speaker 1: in sacks last year. He had sixteen sacks. But that's
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You turn on the tape and
Speaker 1: you see an undersized defensive tackle who kind of wins
Speaker 1: with quickness. And at the next level, where are you
Speaker 1: going to play him? Because he's so he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the size to be a defensive tackle. So I really
Speaker 1: think he's a situational three tech. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you can do with him? I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: good things to say. Okay, I mean we had him
Speaker 1: as a solid fourth round pick. Yeah, yeah, they did
Speaker 1: a situational rush. Yeah, and like I and I know
Speaker 1: Florida State fans are all over it, you know, because
Speaker 1: the production, the sack numbers. But where are they gonna
Speaker 1: play him? As he gonna put him on the edge,
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep him inside. It's it's tough to say,
Speaker 1: but they kind of run that multiple front where they
Speaker 1: will they'll they'll do different things with the gaps. So
Speaker 1: eager to see how they use them. Uh, hopefully they
Speaker 1: keep him inside. I think that's where he can do
Speaker 1: his best work against guards. Give a little bit of space,
Speaker 1: he'd manipulate that space and make plays. Okay, the Browns
Speaker 1: around the clock, now, Browns, they're always interesting right, They're
Speaker 1: always fun. Brown. Thank Could this be your quarterback? This
Speaker 1: is my favorite pick of the second round so far?
Speaker 1: You think so? I think so. Your quarterback mate, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's following quarterback mate at Dane knows that ye got
Speaker 1: you got yourself. I saw it on Twitter. Here we go,
Speaker 1: all right, Cleveland Brown's walking to the podium. Let's go
Speaker 1: well a little time. This guy played in the days
Speaker 1: before Helmet's git gracious to announce the Cleveland Brown selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from Syracuse University nineteen seventy one Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and ductee fullback Jim Brown. Yeah, I just made
Speaker 1: fun of the greatest running back of all time. It's okay,
Speaker 1: Jim Brown. You didn't know who back with a beard going?
Speaker 1: He grew Yeah, he grew the beard out. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. With the fifty second pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select they Shine Kaiser.
Speaker 1: I thought you didn't. I thought you didn't like Kaiser,
Speaker 1: my number two quarterback. Well I stand corrected. Two rounds early,
Speaker 1: it's two rounds early. Kaiser is again. You give this
Speaker 1: guy time, you develop him what he could be. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not he doesn't need to be on the field
Speaker 1: until seventeen. If he's ready in tilS eighteen, I really
Speaker 1: think that he could be something. I really do. It's
Speaker 1: all there. If all the physical traits are there, all
Speaker 1: the mental traits are there, he just needs to tighten
Speaker 1: up a few of the few of the inconsistencies. It's
Speaker 1: not that he can't do these things, it's just it's
Speaker 1: there's no consistency. And I think you look at everything
Speaker 1: he had to deal with at Notre Dame, from the
Speaker 1: coaching staff to just the inconsistent supporting cast around him.
Speaker 1: I really like what he could be down the road.
Speaker 1: There's a reason we don't see redshirt sophomore quarterbacks leave early,
Speaker 1: and they're just not ready for what the NFL brings.
Speaker 1: And so as long as he has time to sit
Speaker 1: and learn, get him on my team and outside the
Speaker 1: top fifty picks. I mean, I don't care if you
Speaker 1: don't even like Deshaan Kaiser outside the top fift right six,
Speaker 1: this is a lottery ticket. You don't know if you
Speaker 1: if you think even a little bit that Deshaun Kaiser
Speaker 1: could be something outside the top fifty picks, boom, give
Speaker 1: them to me. Every day and maybe he turns into something.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's we'll take a break. You know,
Speaker 1: we're the Cleveland that was picked fifty two. Getting close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting close to Cowboys pick. We need to jump
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Speaker 1: We're working our way down to the Dallas Cowboys pick
Speaker 1: at number sixty. UH. The Detroit Lions are currently on
Speaker 1: the clock. I'm looking right now. Their pick is in
Speaker 1: at fifty three, so we're waiting for the commissioner UH
Speaker 1: to uh to talk about that. Just a little bit
Speaker 1: of a recap. At fifty one. UH, the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: took DeMarcus Walker defensive in defensive tackle from Florida State. UH.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, quarterback Notre Dame Dame Brugler, probably the best
Speaker 1: pick of the second day for him. At two fifty two.
Speaker 1: That goes so Kaiser, his second best quarterback on his
Speaker 1: board goes to his uh, his home team. Basically, if
Speaker 1: you want to say that, they're gonna they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a season with him if they decide, you know what,
Speaker 1: this isn't our guy, and he can go up and
Speaker 1: get a quarterback next year. With all that, Amo yep.
Speaker 1: And now the uh, the Miami Dolphins. Uh, they are
Speaker 1: the Dolphins that we're gonna We're on a break right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're that that would be. Let's see, No,
Speaker 1: Detroit just made will be the next team to pick.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm out of order here. Detroit, Miami, and
Speaker 1: the Giants will be the next three. So when we
Speaker 1: come back from television from the break, we'll be able
Speaker 1: to talk about that. Look at the Ford Center war room,
Speaker 1: Kideah analyze that for me a little bit, Dave, Well,
Speaker 1: this doesn't look like a team that's trying to do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I mean not fielding any calls either. We're getting
Speaker 1: into that range. You know, fifty three is about to
Speaker 1: come off the board, fifty four fifty five. This is
Speaker 1: if you're going to do something, this is where I
Speaker 1: would probably try to do it because it's not going
Speaker 1: to cost you as dearly as it might have before.
Speaker 1: But nobody's on the phone. Nobody, you know, they were
Speaker 1: huddled up and they looked kind of animated earlier, and
Speaker 1: they were having conversations, and now they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're we're good to go. Well, we're in. They're looking
Speaker 1: now almost look kind of bored, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: We're in the we're looking into the Detroit Lion war
Speaker 1: room right now, and the commissioner is walking to the
Speaker 1: podium with the Detroit's pick at fifty three Detroit Lions selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from Jackson State University nineteen ninety two Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame inductee quarterback Lem Barney. Good player, K I
Speaker 1: don't remember this guy. Then Barney was really good. Happened
Speaker 1: before he was good? I don't know about it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Number twenty, with the fifty third pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen not the Football League, the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: have selected tease table defensive back from Florida. There you go.
Speaker 1: That's back to back Gators for the Lions, and there
Speaker 1: you go. The hat goes on Tease Tabor and hook
Speaker 1: and he is going to be a Detroit Lions. He
Speaker 1: looks like not that thrilled, he looks kind of annoyed everybody.
Speaker 1: He's trying to tell everybody to be quiet. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: trying to talk to and he's looking everybody like, please
Speaker 1: just be quiet and let me talk here. But Tease Tabor,
Speaker 1: a guy that we targeted on our board was a
Speaker 1: first round player. Uh could speed or the time speed
Speaker 1: hurting him? The tape not that bad and you're not
Speaker 1: that bad, not that bad at all. And you can
Speaker 1: watch him here in a way to say awesome, Yeah
Speaker 1: he is. He is a very reactionary athlete. I think
Speaker 1: that I think he'll be fine in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I do think there's cover skills there. I think the
Speaker 1: ability to play with awareness. I do like the way
Speaker 1: that he has anticipation to drive on the football. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Tease Tabor will be a Detroit Lion this year. He's
Speaker 1: a cowboy, and I don't mean that as a Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 1: I mean he just he's a little reckless with the
Speaker 1: way to place and you can get away with that
Speaker 1: on Florida's defense. When you have you're playing in the SEC,
Speaker 1: and they're probably not many good quarterbacks. And you have
Speaker 1: so much talent around you on the Florida defense, but
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it's gonna be a little different,
Speaker 1: and you don't have the makeup speed after you make
Speaker 1: a mistake. It worries me a little bit. So I'm
Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic with Tabor, so eager to see where he goes.
Speaker 1: But you got my ammy on the miamis now at
Speaker 1: the podium today. Nineteen ninety three Hall of Fame inductee
Speaker 1: guard Larry Little. Another good one. Ka. It's not terribly
Speaker 1: familiar with this guy, very Little. It's one of the
Speaker 1: original pulling guardsman John Hanno County. There you go. He
Speaker 1: reminded you. I always have that. That's over it. Fifty
Speaker 1: fourth pick of the two twenty seventeen the NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins select Ray Juan McMillan. Ohio State had
Speaker 1: two seventeen, So we're splitting the difference. We're far in
Speaker 1: the past and far in the future. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins take Ray Kuan McMillan. You know, Dan,
Speaker 1: what I really like about this guy when he hits
Speaker 1: you he's like, it's like a Mike Foster hit hurt
Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys that when the ball
Speaker 1: here runs into him, they stop. There's no forward mounting power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely got to stop and pick. He's your traditional mic linebacker.
Speaker 1: You know, he can play, do his best work between
Speaker 1: the hashes. Uh, you know, he's gonna take on blocks.
Speaker 1: He's not a bad athlete by any means, but you know,
Speaker 1: he's just he's not that sideline the sideline guy. He
Speaker 1: does have a little bit of range where you know,
Speaker 1: he can make plays off tackles. So I think he
Speaker 1: can be a solid starter in the NFL. Not sure
Speaker 1: he's gonna be, you know, that impact player that maybe
Speaker 1: a Foster will be, but he can be a solid
Speaker 1: starter for many years. So we're six picks away from
Speaker 1: sixty where the Cowboys picker right now, by the way, Kat,
Speaker 1: the Giants are on the clock at fifty five and
Speaker 1: the picks in there though. Yeah Giants last night at
Speaker 1: twenty three. What they do I've I've forgotten already after
Speaker 1: they tight end by the name of oh yeah, Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram of course. Yeah, yeah, So that's interesting. Six eleventh
Speaker 1: receiver to go with their no lineman. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: team needs an offensive tackle. We've talked about that, a
Speaker 1: bunch linebacker, defensive line. You know they're losing. They lost Hankins.
Speaker 1: There as that three technique. Well, here comes to commissioner,
Speaker 1: walk into the podium. Maybe they the Giants back to
Speaker 1: announced the New York Giants selection. Please welcome from South
Speaker 1: Carolina State University two thousand and six Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: inductee linebacker Harry Carson brought us. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about this guy, Harry Carson.
Speaker 1: Good play. They had a linebacker Crue that was pretty
Speaker 1: awesome with him and Lords Taylor. They got after you.
Speaker 1: With the fifty fifth pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the New York Football Giants select Dalvin Tomlinson.
Speaker 1: There you goignball, big man, pretty good football. Jeff, give
Speaker 1: us a thumbnail on him. I think, man, when you
Speaker 1: watch Alabama, it almost doesn't matter who you watch on
Speaker 1: that Alabama defense. Other guys are gonna catch your eye,
Speaker 1: Like you watch Jonathan Allen and Ruben Foster are gonna
Speaker 1: jump at you the most. But even when you're watching
Speaker 1: him every once in a while, you're gonna turn your
Speaker 1: head and go who is that? And then in Tomlinson's case,
Speaker 1: that's why you're watching Jonathan Allen and you're like, who
Speaker 1: is the dude in the middle that keeps making plays?
Speaker 1: Just he's one of those guys. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's a three technique, but the New York Giants are
Speaker 1: gonna have two really big boys up the middle that
Speaker 1: are tough to move and play with a good motor. Tomlinson,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just a really big, tough dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't they have one of those already? They do,
Speaker 1: They got snacks, So, I mean, it just seems like
Speaker 1: they'd be looking for more of a three in the
Speaker 1: technique instead of the nose or the one man. After
Speaker 1: watching the way that the NFC East is drafting, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this happens in the
Speaker 1: draft brought us you tell me, yeah, but I feel
Speaker 1: like you watch some of these other teams in the
Speaker 1: East drafting, and they know who's blocking yet Dallas. They
Speaker 1: know who's blocking A Dallas, and they know who they
Speaker 1: know who, they know whos running the football. They're gonna
Speaker 1: stack up that middle and the Giants. We're one of
Speaker 1: the teams that success had a lot of success, you know,
Speaker 1: defeating the Cowboys twice, and a lot of it had
Speaker 1: to do with they could not control that front. And
Speaker 1: that's something that you know, the Giants, uh losing Hankins
Speaker 1: in there, needed to get a replacement. And and Dalvin
Speaker 1: uh Tomlinson is a is a big body, and we'll
Speaker 1: see where they in fact, they play him keeping nord
Speaker 1: that offensive line, Giants, you just keep doing that, that'll
Speaker 1: be good. I mean, I think that's a fair that
Speaker 1: is a fair criticism. But I mean, Cowboys O line
Speaker 1: verse Giants D line is like one of the best
Speaker 1: matchups in football right edge. I mean, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be a blood bath every
Speaker 1: time they play for the next five years. Okay, that
Speaker 1: puts the Oakland Raiders, or excuse that puts well Oakland
Speaker 1: still Oakland, still Oakland. For now, I haven't have it
Speaker 1: called him the Las Vegas Raiders. They're not the Vegas
Speaker 1: Raiders yet, not yet, not yet. Real quick, real quick, Russ,
Speaker 1: Can we just five picks to go here? Five guys
Speaker 1: in the room. Can we just pick a guy we
Speaker 1: won at sixty quick, we got a guy. Pick it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, your idea, your idea? Guy. I started
Speaker 1: thinking about, Man, I don't want to take Broadest or Jets.
Speaker 1: Go ahead say, I'm gonna say, thank you, Ken, Why
Speaker 1: are you taking my guy? What's that about? I know
Speaker 1: I was gonna this is the game he plays because
Speaker 1: he wanted to go first. Do we want to play
Speaker 1: where everybody has to pick a different guy because I'm
Speaker 1: taking a different Take your guy? Yeah, thank your guy.
Speaker 1: My guy would be tankers That's my guy too. I
Speaker 1: love Morogue also, dam that's that's that's why I mocked
Speaker 1: in my second round mocked. I would go wild card
Speaker 1: and say that dude, Zach Cunningham is still on the board.
Speaker 1: Duke's on the board, and I'd love those two linebacks
Speaker 1: in the interest Asham, in the interest of being well
Speaker 1: rounded Rivers. Tankersley is probably the guy that I would
Speaker 1: circle too. But like, and I mean, I know what
Speaker 1: he does, I've watched him, but how well does he
Speaker 1: fit what they want to do here? Press man? That's
Speaker 1: not that's not what the Cowboys I know. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's the best press man quarter in the
Speaker 1: in the draft if I think you may. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if Todd Bowles was the coach here, like I
Speaker 1: would Rob Ryan, I would carve that name in stone.
Speaker 1: But I would like to think you play to your
Speaker 1: to your player's strengths. And I think the Cowboys multiple things.
Speaker 1: If you line him up in front of a guy
Speaker 1: and let him cover, he can do it. If you
Speaker 1: play him in a Baiale technique and sort of a
Speaker 1: cover three, he can do it. And the offman does
Speaker 1: he have problems? He does, But he's a guy that's
Speaker 1: over six foot two hundred pounds, runs in the four fours,
Speaker 1: and has better feet than most of your corners that
Speaker 1: are over six feet. So even in the off coverage,
Speaker 1: I'd like to think the guy can improve. We're not
Speaker 1: picking players that are never going to improve, are we, No,
Speaker 1: Because that would be bad. That would be bad. That
Speaker 1: would be a bad deal. All right. I know what
Speaker 1: y'all would say based on the fact that you just
Speaker 1: listed him as your guy. But I mean, okay, Moreau's
Speaker 1: Moreau and a Woozier h Yeah, and neither would be
Speaker 1: the wrong pick. I don't you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really didn't like a woozier that much, though I did.
Speaker 1: I liked him quite a bit. I know you guys
Speaker 1: were a little lower on did we do him as
Speaker 1: a as a woozier? Who do we do is a
Speaker 1: tell me more? I thought it was a woozier that
Speaker 1: we did a tell me more. I don't think we
Speaker 1: did him as a tell me more. That's three did
Speaker 1: a woozier and we're wondering what everybody saw that put. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe that's I've got him forty three overall on my board.
Speaker 1: We had him in the fourth round and one oh
Speaker 1: five through the fan board. Okay, so I can tell
Speaker 1: you now I wouldn't be pleased. Sometimes we're haters. Well,
Speaker 1: and he's he is a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: better nickel than maybe he is an outside corps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that's maybe one of the bigger reasons
Speaker 1: he's still available here at this point. We did make
Speaker 1: a point to watch. You know. Actually, I think the
Speaker 1: first games we watched were late in the year, so
Speaker 1: he's dealing with that toe in a turf toe, yeah,
Speaker 1: which he got roasted in the ball. So we moved
Speaker 1: it back and watched some earlier games as well, though
Speaker 1: still press. I like just kind of mah and I
Speaker 1: just don't want to do it here. I would be
Speaker 1: okay with it at ninety two. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it right here at sixty I just feel like
Speaker 1: Tankersley won't beat the pick even if he's available. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to the podium now. The Raiders are gonna
Speaker 1: make a selection here at number fifty six. Four to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Excuse me, three to the Cowboys after this question.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from Grant Wing State University, nineteen eighty four
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductee quarterback Willie Brown. I remember Willie
Speaker 1: back in well, okay, congratulations for being here. And maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of things out of the way, one ben
Speaker 1: type of Mother's Day coming up in a couple of
Speaker 1: which every year. All right, there we go for your mom. Okay,
Speaker 1: my mom should be I'm listen, Oh my mom will
Speaker 1: be one hundred and three in October. You really they're
Speaker 1: gonna boo and family that Jersus day and hello missus.
Speaker 1: Al Davis, I'm gonna tell you how he's so oh
Speaker 1: boy by okay, ever, go worth the fifty to sixth
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and seventy draft the Oaklan rated.
Speaker 1: We select Obie Melo defense Cowboy fan Obie Mellofa. Woo. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboys fan, maybe you're I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a little history lesson here sad with the guys.
Speaker 1: I remember Gutty Patrick Bates, Remember Pat Watkins, Patrick Bates.
Speaker 1: It go back and look up the name Patrick Bates
Speaker 1: and he was taken by the Los Angeles Raiders at
Speaker 1: the time sixty three, two hundred and fifteen pounds safety
Speaker 1: I believe from with Texas A and M and UCLA.
Speaker 1: He was actually a transfer, but the Raiders took Patrick
Speaker 1: Bates and he's one of the guys when you talk
Speaker 1: about safeties that are over sixty three. He was one
Speaker 1: of those guys that played in the league but busted out.
Speaker 1: So hopefully Obi melafal Wu will be better than what
Speaker 1: Patrick Bates was able to do with his time with
Speaker 1: the with the Raiders. Can I throw in a crazy
Speaker 1: sidebar just because I just saw the tweet from Rapaport
Speaker 1: Saints are trying to trade up from the third round,
Speaker 1: floating a third rounder and a second rounder next year,
Speaker 1: looking for an edge rusher. Yeah, if that DG. Rusher
Speaker 1: is there and you get that offer. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: an offer. Yeah. Actually they pick pretty early in the third, right,
Speaker 1: I like tenleve there're three and a second round pick
Speaker 1: next year. I think it's seventy six overall. Go back
Speaker 1: sixteen spots and pick up a second rounder next year. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about real quick on Obie uh Dane workout warrior. Yeah,
Speaker 1: guys like him just you don't see walking around right
Speaker 1: unless planet. I mean, he looked good in the cafeteria
Speaker 1: when he came through on the visits by the war
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five pounds. He's a four four
Speaker 1: oh athlete. The jumps, the explosive jumps at the combine,
Speaker 1: give me a break, right, unbelievable what this kid can do.
Speaker 1: But when you, you know, talk about him in football
Speaker 1: context on the on the tape, the mental trigger, that's
Speaker 1: what you worry about, right, It doesn't matter how fast
Speaker 1: you are, how explosive you are, if you don't see it,
Speaker 1: if you don't anticipate it, all that athleticisms to waste.
Speaker 1: So yes, he did have over three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: tackles in college as a four year starter. A lot
Speaker 1: of those tackles were down the field. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you could see reaction. Yeah, Don Umphrey, Yeah, ran right
Speaker 1: over him. Yeah, I mean, come on, yeah, it shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: All right, the picks in for the Houston Texans. This
Speaker 1: will be picked number fifty seven. That'll put put us
Speaker 1: two away from Dallas. Let's go to the podium, Andrea,
Speaker 1: I know that guy, Brian, please welcome. He was in
Speaker 1: the university and I was a good player brand play
Speaker 1: wide receiver Andre Johnson, and they had a team around
Speaker 1: him back in the year. What's the year? And thank
Speaker 1: you with the fifty seven pick. And in twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL draft, the Houston Texans to elect Zack Cunningham, linebacker Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, right there, Yeah, Zach Cunningham.
Speaker 1: That's the team, what number one ranked defense in the
Speaker 1: league last year, right, and they just added they added
Speaker 1: one of the one of my favorite players on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Again, you watch his tape
Speaker 1: six three and a half two or thirty four pounds.
Speaker 1: He is a guy. Now, the question about him, listening
Speaker 1: to some scouts talk to him, is how much does
Speaker 1: he really really love football? And you know some scouts
Speaker 1: that had questions. Again, Vanderbilt kid, he was a you know,
Speaker 1: a redshirt junior. But I'll tell you one thing though,
Speaker 1: this kid will never come off the field. He is
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You watch him blitz, you watch
Speaker 1: him cover, you watch him tackle. He's a sideline to
Speaker 1: sideline player. He was one of the guys I had
Speaker 1: very high in my top fifty. I'm really surprised he
Speaker 1: lasted to pick fifty seven. But man, he went to
Speaker 1: a great situation in Houston, and they will do a
Speaker 1: great job down there. L Cornell using him. Can I
Speaker 1: cut you off real quick? Speaking of linebackers, did you
Speaker 1: happen to notice who just walked onto the Ford Center
Speaker 1: war room? Can? No? I did not who it was?
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus. Okay, it was the first coach we've seen tonight.
Speaker 1: Who happened he coaches linebackers. I think it's also fair
Speaker 1: to say he's the passing defense coordinators, right. That could
Speaker 1: mean a variety. Yeah, this could be the talk about
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks and stuff like that. But he is the
Speaker 1: first coach that I've seen walk into the war room tonight.
Speaker 1: If we see a Joe Baker or a Greg Jackson
Speaker 1: that will tell you as well. So, uh, let's see
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, it's gonna be Seattle is all the
Speaker 1: clock right now at fifty eight, their their pick is in.
Speaker 1: So when we get back, Seattle be up and rolling
Speaker 1: for for them. And so we are getting clear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting close. But I feel I mean Attle, Kansas
Speaker 1: City in Dallas, I think two picks to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. There are two picks to go, and
Speaker 1: there's at least, like I mean, there's at least three
Speaker 1: guys left that I feel good about. Right, all Right,
Speaker 1: our mock draft, we traded back, didn't we dange? Did
Speaker 1: we pick up this? This is the point. This is
Speaker 1: the point where we went back in our mock draft
Speaker 1: to sixty five with Cleveland and picked up the extra
Speaker 1: fifth round pick that we didn't have that was gonna
Speaker 1: start the fifth round tomorrow. So, uh, Stephen Jones was
Speaker 1: on the phone just a little bit earlier. On the
Speaker 1: phone right now, Chris Hall. He Chris Hall usually is
Speaker 1: involved with getting the player on the phone. So let's mouth,
Speaker 1: let's see, yeah, let's see, he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: A lot of lass were on the side eye at
Speaker 1: the camera too. If from Stephen and uh and Jerry
Speaker 1: Junior actually going across Garrett and Jerry, it just kind
Speaker 1: of just killed jokes skill on. So I think everyone
Speaker 1: feels good. Maybe not a lot of action right here.
Speaker 1: The quality of player available at the sixtieth pick in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft is insane this year. Yeah, I could.
Speaker 1: I mean in a lot of drafts, I could have
Speaker 1: taken Kadrea Tankerusly Fabian Moreau in the first round. Uh,
Speaker 1: Derek Rivers is still on the board. Basham is on
Speaker 1: the board. Carl Lawson for somebody's on the board. All
Speaker 1: these receivers are on the board. LF Line the Ohio
Speaker 1: State Center, Phoenie the guard from India that the level
Speaker 1: of player that made it to sixty this year is insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's uh. I'll tell you what though, Again, you
Speaker 1: can't criticize them for what happened last night if they
Speaker 1: would have taken the corner and waited, because obviously Rivers
Speaker 1: is gonna be on this board. I'm want to say
Speaker 1: Basham is gonna be on the board too when they pick.
Speaker 1: These are guys that they brought in on their visits
Speaker 1: and a lot of people had Basham mocked to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at sixty sixty. Yeah, he was a guy that
Speaker 1: did for a while. Yeah, but because I had a
Speaker 1: corner in the first right, Yeah, I had a pass
Speaker 1: rusher in the first I wouldn't have done nuts. I
Speaker 1: agree with Jeff though, is I mean, yeah, maybe they
Speaker 1: reached for their guy in the first round. But hindsight's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and I said this this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel better about Taco than whoever they might have
Speaker 1: gotten at sixty, I thought me personally, I still feel
Speaker 1: that way. I'm fine with the way it worked out,
Speaker 1: even if you know, I mean one of the two
Speaker 1: of Basham or Rivers will be there. So yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's see the phones again, monitoring what's going on in
Speaker 1: the Ford Center war room. Phones not ringing. Chris Hall
Speaker 1: was working a phone earlier, but Chris is more of
Speaker 1: a identified talk to the players. See where he's at. Guy,
Speaker 1: Chris is not going to do anything to Uh. Chris
Speaker 1: just gave a thumbs up, so Jerry with a nod.
Speaker 1: It looks like some happy people. Yeah, handshakes. Okay, Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli again, Okay, it comes to defense. Rod. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: see though, if in fact, so it's not going to
Speaker 1: be a quarterback. Nathan Peterman Marionelli. Yeah, let's see if
Speaker 1: Joe Baker. Oh, we can't quite see if they're hitting
Speaker 1: a knuckles. Seahawks are We're all announced Seahawks into fifty eight.
Speaker 1: Here we go with pick in the twenty seventeen the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. The Seattle Seahawks eat the tackle all right there,
Speaker 1: so helps the offensive line. There's your helps's not a
Speaker 1: bad player, and I'm they said tackle, Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: He was a good center. Yeah, he could realistically play
Speaker 1: five spots on sure. That's exactly what Seattle needs, a
Speaker 1: guy that has that type of position flex. Oh, he
Speaker 1: needs to literally play all five. Yeah, Seattle first one
Speaker 1: ever do it. They might run Malik McDowell out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bench the other four. Why not on the
Speaker 1: other line post. He was a center, but he could play.
Speaker 1: He could play all the spots. I hate tall centers,
Speaker 1: so I think he's best at guard. But he also
Speaker 1: played right tackle. Four him, I mean you can move
Speaker 1: him and that that versatility is key with a player
Speaker 1: like that. There's your former intern, Yeah Snyder, John Snyder
Speaker 1: working him. Handshakes all around, just handshakes everywhere. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: they got a guy. They got a guy in mind,
Speaker 1: picked a good player. Yeah, Kansas City. Kansas City is
Speaker 1: on the clock right now. That's one pick ahead of
Speaker 1: him at fifty nine. Let's see what they do. But
Speaker 1: there's plenty, plenty of names on this board for the Cows.
Speaker 1: You may want to take a guess who they who
Speaker 1: they selected. Well, Burrow's interesting because he's a possible pup guy, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, I know, I don't care. I can
Speaker 1: get by with three I got for now. That's a
Speaker 1: great rebuilt. Knowing Carroll, I think gives you the ability
Speaker 1: to draft that if you want to, because the secondary
Speaker 1: needs to be overhauled for the next five years. You've
Speaker 1: you've got play. You've got three who can play until October.
Speaker 1: Moreau's under contract for four years. That's a really good point.
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm fine with it. I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys be. Okay with it. You know, let's
Speaker 1: if not take tankers, let's just have a party. I
Speaker 1: think I feel better about what Moreau would do in
Speaker 1: this defense than tanker Chiefs the podium. Yeah, Chiefs are
Speaker 1: at the podium, right now from Louisiana State University wide
Speaker 1: receiver Carlos Carson brought us somebody to help on this one.
Speaker 1: With the ninth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the CANSI the Chiefs select Tono. WHOA, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to draft that guy at ninety two. Here's passing on
Speaker 1: he is the we we we drafted him. We did
Speaker 1: him at at an our mock draft. We had him
Speaker 1: going at ninety two to the Cowboys. So here he is.
Speaker 1: He goes to the Kansas City Chiefs at pick fifty nine.
Speaker 1: That means that Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is visiting TV is a little behind. So um,
Speaker 1: it could be. It could be any number we've talked
Speaker 1: about Moreau, Oh, Tankerslee, Uh, the the guys that they
Speaker 1: brought in, uh Wazier. Uh yeah like Woozier. I know
Speaker 1: you guys didn't like him as much. I think he
Speaker 1: was a forty third player in this on my back, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think he is. He's the best blitzing corner in
Speaker 1: this draft. He played a little linebacker, played a little safety,
Speaker 1: played a little corner. I think he can do all
Speaker 1: those things. He is one of the better nickels in
Speaker 1: this class. The versatility is key with him. When you
Speaker 1: talk about a Woozier, I'm a big fan of who
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, so he's not elite from a heightweight, speed,
Speaker 1: length speed, you know that. That just the raw measurables.
Speaker 1: But I think when you talk about his instincts, you
Speaker 1: talk about the position flex, I'm excited what he could be.
Speaker 1: Uh so I think him moreau. Those are kind of
Speaker 1: the two I'm looking at here. If the pick is
Speaker 1: a Woozier, you know what they call him? Right? What's
Speaker 1: that cheeto? There? You go? So we got taco and cheeto.
Speaker 1: If he is in fact the pick, yeah, we think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a corner back. Rod Marinelli has jumped
Speaker 1: on the phone now and uh so, uh we'll see
Speaker 1: in fact who I mean, the who they've will make
Speaker 1: the announcement here. Okay, obviously all right, Basham and Rivers fell,
Speaker 1: which you could you know, maybe they didn't think that
Speaker 1: would happen, or maybe they don't like them as much
Speaker 1: as they like taco, whatever, but you have to give
Speaker 1: them props that they gambled that a corner they liked
Speaker 1: would be here. And there's three or four of them
Speaker 1: that they brought in and liked enough to visit with.
Speaker 1: So definitely right about that. And there's Joe Baker further
Speaker 1: confirming yea, our suspicions. So here they go. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the Cowboys pick Live. Well, we feel
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be a cornerback here we we do.
Speaker 1: We went through I personally have Moreau in the one
Speaker 1: five three board Moreau tankers Lee. We've talked about that,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty with Joe Baker on so the poone,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's definitely a defensive back here. Just a
Speaker 1: matter of waiting for TV to come back and officially
Speaker 1: give us that pick. So as we wait, it's kind
Speaker 1: of been a long journey here, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: they they felt like that. I went through the litany
Speaker 1: of corners that were available that who of the three
Speaker 1: we were talking about Dane again, and you were given
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good thumbnail. Give me, give me the
Speaker 1: one that's the best fit, the best fit for what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are trying to do scheme wise. I really
Speaker 1: think it'd be a woozy yeah, I mean I do.
Speaker 1: I think because of the position flex everything he can
Speaker 1: do on the football field. And again he's not that
Speaker 1: elite heightweight, speed guy, short arms. But when you talk
Speaker 1: about and really that's what we think the Cowboys value
Speaker 1: in a defensive back, right, those numbers. But we talking
Speaker 1: about football instinct. You talked about the tape, talk about
Speaker 1: the position flex everything you can do in the football field.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that by I mean, get that type of
Speaker 1: player on my team. I like to pick if that's
Speaker 1: if that's addression they go. But again, tankerously, we talked
Speaker 1: about he's a press man guy. When he played off coverage,
Speaker 1: that's where he struggled. I think Fabian Moreau he was better,
Speaker 1: and I think I pressed because he could he could
Speaker 1: mix and match with any type of route off the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. But you know there were some questions
Speaker 1: there with him. So I think we're just talking the
Speaker 1: best fit for what the Cowboys want. I like the
Speaker 1: Colorado corner. What do you what do you do with
Speaker 1: this guy on day one? You let him fight for
Speaker 1: the Knicks starting nickel or not. Well, it is almost
Speaker 1: a starting nickel job. You let him start or fight
Speaker 1: for that spot and if he can win, great and
Speaker 1: you get him on the field, you feel good about
Speaker 1: him on the boundary or no, maybe not right away,
Speaker 1: but I think eventually, Yeah, he can do it um
Speaker 1: and he did that a lot at Colorado. But when
Speaker 1: they'd go they show three wide receiver sets, he'd kick
Speaker 1: inside playing the nickel. I think that's where he's most comfortable,
Speaker 1: especially with his blitzing ability. He holds the Colorado record
Speaker 1: for sacks by a defensive back. So they let it
Speaker 1: loose quite a bit with Yeah, that was something you
Speaker 1: know that we see with Rod Murinelli. Were like, you're
Speaker 1: kind of us he's taller, but you just said a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that reminded me of Orlando Scantrick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they're all lined up in the war room.
Speaker 1: They're ready for the pick to come rolling and TV
Speaker 1: is back from their break. We're at of course, they're
Speaker 1: in the second round, pick number sixty, and we're just
Speaker 1: waiting for the commissioner to walk to the podium and
Speaker 1: I make we think this is going to be a cornerback.
Speaker 1: We've kind of gone through the names, the various names.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Uh, that's that's uh what we think
Speaker 1: will happen. But you never know. But again, all the
Speaker 1: defensive coaches were in there. The staff looks very happy
Speaker 1: about their selections. So they're acting like a crew whose
Speaker 1: plan worked out, And yeah, whose plan was to kind
Speaker 1: of map this thing out a little bit and have
Speaker 1: a good cornerback fall to you at sixty. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: let's see if you know, Jeff, do you you on
Speaker 1: board with this? Sir? You have your core. You said
Speaker 1: Tankerously would be your guy. Whinney, Yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: my guy. I just I like Tankerously and I like
Speaker 1: Moreau because I feel like those are guys that are
Speaker 1: big enough to play on the boundary. They both do
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I like. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: to the podium. Drew Pearson's gonna make the pick Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys selection. Please welcome the University of Tulsa wide receiver
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson. All right, how about the Cowboys. I want
Speaker 1: to thank the Eagle fans for allowing me to have
Speaker 1: a career in the NFL. Thank you honor as an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent to be selected to make the Cowboys
Speaker 1: second round draft pick and on behalf of the five
Speaker 1: time world champion Dallas Cowboys. Jerry jo Jerry's loving it.
Speaker 1: Jason Gary, Oh, the cowboy play before me, after me?
Speaker 1: What the second brick? And I TUCKI pick a second.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys, like defens back from Colorado should be there.
Speaker 1: We go there he is, Oh, I think I like
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson. Just I don't care about the pick anymore.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson just took my breath. I look what Drew did.
Speaker 1: More than I liked the picks. Drew made me feel better.
Speaker 1: Drew made me feel a lot better. He took it
Speaker 1: to the Eagles fans. So I don't always just aren't
Speaker 1: they just don't agree with me. Why don't you like
Speaker 1: to play, Jeffrey, Why don't you like the pick? You
Speaker 1: know when we when we watched a Woozier, I just
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. I didn't see it. You know,
Speaker 1: in this I want to defer to Dane, and I
Speaker 1: want Dane to be right because to Kat's point, I
Speaker 1: think they followed their plan. They took their defensive end,
Speaker 1: and they took their corner. They had a number of
Speaker 1: corners that fell to him. They're good players, and they
Speaker 1: got good scouts, and they got Will McClay and if
Speaker 1: they decided Joobia Woozier is the best one on the board,
Speaker 1: then I'll believe that he's better than what I thought
Speaker 1: I saw in tape. That's kind of where I'm at too.
Speaker 1: I mean, and at this I don't know. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: work out, maybe they won't. There's no way to know that.
Speaker 1: But I trust their evaluations. And we said all spring
Speaker 1: they needed to get starter caliber guys at pass rush,
Speaker 1: at corner and at safety. Sitting here halfway through this,
Speaker 1: I mean halfway through the tonight, I mean, they got
Speaker 1: two of the three. Only time will tell if it
Speaker 1: works out, but I certainly can't criticize the strategy. I
Speaker 1: thought the best thing that this kid did on tape
Speaker 1: was blitz. I thought sometimes there was issues in coverage.
Speaker 1: I just saw a very you know, kind of an
Speaker 1: average burst. An average average, I know, is it long speeds?
Speaker 1: There wouldn't the most fluid of athletes. Um, you know
Speaker 1: what you said about the size, right, Can he you know,
Speaker 1: end up playing outside will be a question. Um, But
Speaker 1: he just he didn't flash that much to me on tape.
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe I missed something. I agree with
Speaker 1: everything you said except for one thing. I think he's fluid,
Speaker 1: and I think he has better I mean he ran
Speaker 1: a four four three. I thought he was son easy mover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he ran a four four three, but he
Speaker 1: don't think he played four four three. His time speed
Speaker 1: was better than his play speed. But I really I
Speaker 1: thought he was really fluid. I thought he knew how.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could seamlessly transition with receivers at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage in off coverage. And so when you
Speaker 1: have that type of foot quickness, the body control the hips,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're looking for at the position.
Speaker 1: And you know, he just I didn't think he got
Speaker 1: beat very often. Now, if you watched the bowl game,
Speaker 1: it got pretty ugly. Yeah, because he was dealing with
Speaker 1: a turf toe. And that might have been my biggest
Speaker 1: worry with him, is he dealt with a few different
Speaker 1: different injuries. Look at the Packers. Yeah, Packers are up
Speaker 1: at pick sixty one. Here, let's go to him real
Speaker 1: quick and we'll come back. NC State Josh Jones, that guy,
Speaker 1: Josh Jones, safety stones, Josh Jones. NC State is picked
Speaker 1: by the Packers at sixty one. Great pick by them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I will, okay, And then thought Dane about you
Speaker 1: about the movement skills of a woozier. Yeah, like productions there.
Speaker 1: Thirty nine passes defended the last four years, and again
Speaker 1: he played corner, played free safety, played all over. Uh.
Speaker 1: He nine sacks, twenty six tackles for loss. He tested
Speaker 1: really well. Not the biggest guy's under six foot, he's
Speaker 1: about two hundred pounds short arms. But I think the
Speaker 1: football intelligence, the competitive nature, those things are off the charts,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they're really buying here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that arg is that ad Jason Garrett rap. That sounds
Speaker 1: like exact, That sounds like a blueprint for a Cowboys pick.
Speaker 1: So which that means at ninety two, I demand you
Speaker 1: pick somebody who's awesome at football. And he also played
Speaker 1: all special teams coverage. Okay, there's that. That's good. He
Speaker 1: doesn't come for a different Are we talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who's ready to come in and play seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty eight hundred snaps as your fourth cornerback? This
Speaker 1: is not is that what this is? This isn't a project,
Speaker 1: This isn't a guy you're gonna sit. This is a
Speaker 1: guy who he's going to play. He's going to see
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. Absolutely, I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a big jump for him. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I mean one of the things you don't like to
Speaker 1: see only three picks for a guy with forty two starts,
Speaker 1: only three picks. That's a little bit of red flag,
Speaker 1: because that's huge. O. You know what. The whole thing
Speaker 1: here was remaking the secondary tonight. I remember if maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen the second, but in this draft they
Speaker 1: had to remake the second. He's playing from day one,
Speaker 1: and we got the Steelers at the podium. Yeah, Steelers
Speaker 1: at the podium. Franco Harris, I know this guy, Bryan,
Speaker 1: see Pittford Steelers selection. He's welcome from Penn State nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety Haul of Fame inductee running back Franko. Harris, Hello Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and a big shout out to Steeler Nation. With the
Speaker 1: sixty second pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers select Juju Smith's Schuester from USC. You thought, oh,
Speaker 1: Shuster going the second, Yeah, I did too. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna go to Uh. I thought he
Speaker 1: was my guy golf, Yeah, go to the Rams. I
Speaker 1: thought that this would be the Rams pick. But the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, and it makes sense for the Steelers would
Speaker 1: take this guy. Oh yeah, this is a big Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown or Tavis Bryant and juju. Yeah, after Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of question marks. Yeah, Martavis Bryant,
Speaker 1: can you stay on the field. It's reinstated. He's ready
Speaker 1: to rock? Name can he stay to rock? Sammy Coates
Speaker 1: can't catch a cold? They have and Eli Rogers has
Speaker 1: you know, turned into a solid player. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a contributor. But they're looking for that true number two
Speaker 1: and I think Smith Schuster could be that down the line.
Speaker 1: The youngest player in this draft, he's not going to
Speaker 1: be twenty one until Thanksgiving. Yeah, well he's he's a
Speaker 1: young pub he's a Pittsburgh Steeler and he is uh
Speaker 1: you know, And to me, this is a guy that's
Speaker 1: not afraid. I mean that's always always think about Steeler receivers,
Speaker 1: you know, those tough, gritty inside players. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: not the fastest guy, but we'll go get the football.
Speaker 1: Be a good bad weather player, got a high catch radius,
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's a that's a nice pick for
Speaker 1: a and well Mark Tavis Brian has been conditionally reinstated
Speaker 1: by the NFL. Right, so right, the rich get richer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real quick report from Ian Rappaport. Cowboys might be shopping
Speaker 1: Scandrick a little bit. So that's fun. Okay. So this
Speaker 1: that actually if they could pull it off, and he
Speaker 1: says the asking price is a three as the third
Speaker 1: and I don't know if anybody's gonna pay that, but
Speaker 1: if you could pull that off, I would like the
Speaker 1: Woozier pick better. At that point. Part of my reservation
Speaker 1: on that pick is, as Dane's talking about and Kti
Speaker 1: was talking about the blitzing with a Woozier, if that
Speaker 1: spot is there for him and it belongs to him,
Speaker 1: then I feel better about that pick. And I'm shopping
Speaker 1: for another corner. Yeah, if I can plug him in
Speaker 1: and plan to start him and he's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the slot. And then got a trade on the board, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a trade coming up on the it. And
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jeff in this. I mean, right now,
Speaker 1: you have Carol, Scandrick Brown and a Woozier, and from
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing it sounds like four really similar guys.
Speaker 1: We have Chitobe on the line right now, Jitoby, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's Brian Broadest Day Burglar, Jeff Kavanaugh, and Kevin Turner
Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dallas Cowboy. It's got to be an
Speaker 1: exciting evening for you. Man, this is the most exciting
Speaker 1: day of my life. Man. I always wanted to be
Speaker 1: a cowboy, and now I have this opportunity. Now I'm
Speaker 1: just ready to, you know, do anything I can to
Speaker 1: help us organization win. So we're gonna get the audio
Speaker 1: of your phone call at some point and we're gonna
Speaker 1: play it of when Jerry and the coaches called you.
Speaker 1: But how did that go for you? What was going
Speaker 1: through your mind? Had that conversation go? Man? I kind
Speaker 1: of just sat down. I just kept saying thank you
Speaker 1: and how you know, grateful I was for them to
Speaker 1: take a chance on me. And you know, I was
Speaker 1: just closing my eyes. And when I opened up my parents'
Speaker 1: family everybody started screaming, and I just said a couple
Speaker 1: of tiers and it really just hit me that, you know,
Speaker 1: my dreams was coming true and I have a chance
Speaker 1: to be great. So you're on the list of Cowboys
Speaker 1: visits and so what was that light coming and meeting
Speaker 1: with Garrett, Rod Marinelli and Joe Baker. Man, it was
Speaker 1: such a beautiful place. You know, I fell in love
Speaker 1: with it. And you know, like in college you get
Speaker 1: to choose where you want to go, and the NFL
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But you know that if it
Speaker 1: was college again, I would definitely chose to go. I
Speaker 1: feel like any player would have chose to be a Cowboy.
Speaker 1: And just having this opportunity now and being with the
Speaker 1: facility and the type of coaches and players that they're
Speaker 1: having the facility already, Man, I know I sit right
Speaker 1: in and I'm ready to get to work. Dwe You've
Speaker 1: played outside, corner, inside, you've played safety, You've played all over.
Speaker 1: Where do you feel most comfortable? Where do you think
Speaker 1: you can make the biggest impact? I said, I said
Speaker 1: it all the time. I'm a baller, period, and I
Speaker 1: feel like that's where the Cowboys saw me, that I
Speaker 1: could play all those positions at a really high level.
Speaker 1: You know, no matter where you put me, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a ball or someone who's gonna make place, who's
Speaker 1: gonna change the game, you know, gonna be a leader
Speaker 1: in the locker room. So they know where they're getting,
Speaker 1: how a player they're getting and I'm just excited to
Speaker 1: be a part of the organization. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's the attitude the Cowboys look for in their cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of the guys they have
Speaker 1: here already just in terms of what they look for. UM,
Speaker 1: just curious. And you know, like we mentioned, you had
Speaker 1: a chance to come out here to Dallas and visit
Speaker 1: with these guys. What did they tell you about what
Speaker 1: they like about you, what they expect from you from
Speaker 1: the get you know, as a rookie, Well they expect
Speaker 1: you know, a guy is very knowledgeable about the game.
Speaker 1: Someone theyre moving pieces they could put anywhere. And they
Speaker 1: talked to me about playing corner nick all that. So
Speaker 1: they basically just seen what Coach Max saw me with
Speaker 1: my high school coach saw me. You know, an underdog
Speaker 1: who's willing to you'll work his way to the top.
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of player of their game. Well, Hdobe,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. I congratulations. We
Speaker 1: look forward to to seeing you here at the Star
Speaker 1: here in Frisco. And uh again, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: heck of a career. They're at Colorado with coach Mack
Speaker 1: and and again we're looking forward to welcome you here
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you so much. Thank you
Speaker 1: go Cowboys. Kdobie thirteen and three wasn't enough already for
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Could you do that for us? You
Speaker 1: feel me? That's what I'm coming here for. I always
Speaker 1: wanted the ring. We're gonna get one. All right, Thank
Speaker 1: you man, have a great idea. We'll see you down
Speaker 1: the road. All right. All right, well that sounds that
Speaker 1: sounded like a corner back to me. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: here's okay, Buffalo, Buffalo took this. Buffalo was making this
Speaker 1: pick for Atlanta, Atlanta. I saw it. There was pick
Speaker 1: one forty. Well, I'll tell let's take a break real here.
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Speaker 1: back here in the SWBC Mortgage studios, coming to the
Speaker 1: close of the second round, and then we will go
Speaker 1: into the third round where the picks or we come
Speaker 1: five minutes. We just missed Buffalo's pick. This was a
Speaker 1: pick that they acquired from Atlanta. They took Dion Dawkins
Speaker 1: guard tackle from Temple, one of my favorites. What a
Speaker 1: fun Yeah, and here we go. Carolina is now they're on,
Speaker 1: They're on, They're at the podium. Here, let's go to
Speaker 1: Carolina at sixty four podium Western mister, all right, one
Speaker 1: of the few tackles left that you think could project
Speaker 1: as a starter. Yeah. So yeah, it's a good pick
Speaker 1: by Carolina. Who needs offensive line? Yeah so Taylor, So
Speaker 1: Taylor Moten, offensive tackle, Western Michigan. He's gonna go to
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Like I said before, that was Buffalo
Speaker 1: took Dion Dawkin's at tackle from the UH from Temple,
Speaker 1: tamp guard tackle, right, So a nice pick for them. Okay,
Speaker 1: quickly though, how many players has Western Michigan had drafted? Ever? Well? Quick,
Speaker 1: just a second two? How many has Texas had? Oh no,
Speaker 1: not not one, not until Foreman goes big old donut. Okay,
Speaker 1: just checking, just wondering, Yeah, just wondering what with the
Speaker 1: big twelve in general? Yeah, it's like two or three.
Speaker 1: It's not not a not a banner weekend so far.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just felt like being rude for
Speaker 1: a second. I'll talk to you all well, thanks today.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. I mean real quick talk about the I mean,
Speaker 1: I look at the Cowboys have done. Okay, but in
Speaker 1: terms of like my favorite draft so far, really like
Speaker 1: what Caroline has done being McCaffrey, Samuel and then Moten.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got better than the offensive line and
Speaker 1: you've got two offensive weapons. Okay, let's real quick. We
Speaker 1: Dane was talking about earlier in Rappaport broke a story
Speaker 1: or was talking about a conversation with about Orlando Scandrick
Speaker 1: potentially be a trade Mike Fisher from one oh five
Speaker 1: three The Fan, the Cowboys insider, Mike, I understand it.
Speaker 1: You have talked to Orlando Scandrick. Just had a conversation
Speaker 1: with Orlando Scandrick and he confirms this news. He tells me,
Speaker 1: I was told the same thing that I've heard that
Speaker 1: I am a trade candidate. He kind of shrugs his
Speaker 1: shoulders as to why he's got three years left on
Speaker 1: his contract at about five million dollars a year as
Speaker 1: the Cowboys chase other defensive backs in the draft. Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrick confirming to me that he is indeed on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys trade block. Mike, does he you know Orlando is
Speaker 1: always about all business? Is you said he's wondering why
Speaker 1: any bitter bitterness here or anything like that? Or is
Speaker 1: he just uh, you know, because we've seen him here
Speaker 1: at the Star, He's been part of the workouts, you know,
Speaker 1: I see him out there on the field and then
Speaker 1: afterwards in the dining hall as well. But they sound
Speaker 1: like a bitter guy here well, and in fact is
Speaker 1: viewed by many of the players as somebody with leadership qualities.
Speaker 1: And you and I have talked, of course, Brian a
Speaker 1: lot about his conflicts with the media. And you think
Speaker 1: they're real and I think they're fake. Orlando Scandrick has
Speaker 1: survives by having a chip on his shoulder, right, by
Speaker 1: acting like there's a chip on his shoulder. And we
Speaker 1: will see maybe tonight if he survives as a Cowboy
Speaker 1: cornerback or as elsewhere. All right, Mike, well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We appreciate you running down that story. It's
Speaker 1: Mike Fisher from one oh five three the Fan. We
Speaker 1: always appreciate the any insight that he has visit with
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick confirming that he has been told that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are indeed trying to move him along if they can.
Speaker 1: That's an affordable contract for a team looking for a
Speaker 1: starting cornerback. But in a draft like the one we're
Speaker 1: looking at right now, where you think that there are
Speaker 1: starting cornerbacks that you're going to get for a four
Speaker 1: year contract for less money, it just seems like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be something that would be tough to pull off, right. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think that maybe a package a pick with him
Speaker 1: and try to move up our round. Well you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's it's one of those things though, Larre.
Speaker 1: You just kind of these these players, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: you just never know. Like I said, he's been working
Speaker 1: out here. Uh, you know, people in the locker room
Speaker 1: say what you want. You know, I know for a
Speaker 1: fact that he and and he was he's an abrasive guy,
Speaker 1: and you know he had his struggles getting along with guys.
Speaker 1: You know some of his own teammates, guys that are
Speaker 1: gone now, uh, you know JJ Wilcox with also two
Speaker 1: with uh you know, with Mo Claiborne. So you know, uh,
Speaker 1: let's see the Cowboys, uh, you know, thinking about moving
Speaker 1: on if they can. So we are now into the
Speaker 1: third round. Uh, Cleveland Browns lead off this round. This
Speaker 1: is pick sixty five. I'll remind you that the picks
Speaker 1: are now five minutes instead of seven. Oh yeah, yet
Speaker 1: moving ten minutes the first round, seven minutes the second round,
Speaker 1: and now the the teams will have five minutes per
Speaker 1: pick to make or five minutes for the for the
Speaker 1: make their selection. So we're just kind of waiting on
Speaker 1: any you know, we talk about resetting our board. Any
Speaker 1: these players surprise you that they didn't go in the
Speaker 1: first two rounds. We have Carl Lawson still out, Deltroll,
Speaker 1: Basha Moreau, U, Jordan Willis, uh Tankersley Rivers, Yeah at Elfly.
Speaker 1: I mean there's some talented players out there. I mean, again,
Speaker 1: like Jeff said earlier, it's a testament to this draft
Speaker 1: and why this draft class is so much fun because
Speaker 1: of the depth. We're in round three now and there
Speaker 1: are guys that can come in and be impact players
Speaker 1: for a team. Are you at the point now does
Speaker 1: this kind of open up the door? And I know
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland pick is into we'll go to it
Speaker 1: when it's ready, but or now that we're out of
Speaker 1: the second round, you've got a corner. Are you at
Speaker 1: the point now where you start thinking a little more
Speaker 1: aggressively if something came to you, you know in the seventies,
Speaker 1: I mean you don't have a fifth thrown pick. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the podium for the Browns, the Cleveland Browns selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from Kent State University wide receiver Josh Cribbs.
Speaker 1: Josh Cribbs, Kenny and that guy was a good returner
Speaker 1: back in my dad. I'm so honored to be here
Speaker 1: to represent the city of Cleveland and it's great fan base.
Speaker 1: So with the sixty fifth pick and the twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns and the dog pounds to
Speaker 1: let Larry Ogan Zobie d tackle Charlotte. That's a Dane
Speaker 1: and broadest guy right there. Larry Oga joby my number
Speaker 1: fifty six player going sixty five. You like him more
Speaker 1: of a three technique right, He's your classic one gap penat.
Speaker 1: Just get up the field as fast as you can.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who kind of was the He's
Speaker 1: the poster child of this Charlotte program, right, an upstart
Speaker 1: football program who uh you know, he comes in and
Speaker 1: and start as a freshman, you know, when they barely
Speaker 1: could field a football team, and you know, I hold
Speaker 1: so many records at that school. Helped them kind of
Speaker 1: develop into what they are now, you know, as they
Speaker 1: continue to grow. But I really like this player and
Speaker 1: Cleveland continues to knock out of the parker I mentioned,
Speaker 1: Carolina has one of my favorite drafts. Cleveland's right there
Speaker 1: with the players they've drafted. Really like what they've done
Speaker 1: here on Day two with Kaiser and Ogwan Jobie, two
Speaker 1: guys that went later than I had him rated. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go, and I'll see you what the thing
Speaker 1: that I really like I thought for a guy that
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit raw the way he played though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but he got he he has technique, he understand
Speaker 1: good technique. I mean he'll get rid of blockers. He
Speaker 1: I mean he will grab, he will snatch blockers. He's
Speaker 1: got some really really strong hands, and you're right, get
Speaker 1: up the field one technique type player one gap player.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, get up the field, grab guys, and get
Speaker 1: rid of guys. So yeah, Larry Ogan job defensive tackle
Speaker 1: from North Carolina Charlotte is Cleveland Browns at sixty five.
Speaker 1: That puts the San Francisco forty nine ers on the
Speaker 1: clock at sixty six. Looks like their picks in just
Speaker 1: waiting for. I believe the Troy Vincent is now taken
Speaker 1: over the announcing duties for the commissioners, so we await
Speaker 1: the San Francisco pis. This is nice. We can kind
Speaker 1: of settle back in and enjoy our draft until we
Speaker 1: get close again. Here we go, and Trey Vincent at
Speaker 1: the podium nounce to San Francisco forty nine or selection.
Speaker 1: Please welcome from the University of Auburn linebacker Tequillo Spikes
Speaker 1: and from the University of Nebraska fullback Tom Raffner. Spikes
Speaker 1: looks like he still play Yeah Funky Time, I Love
Speaker 1: You with the sixty six pick in the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, But San Francisco forty nine ers select
Speaker 1: Akello Witherspoon defense It back out of Colorado, one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. There go, there you go high fives all round.
Speaker 1: John Lynch a great pick. Yeah, Orgy jon As another
Speaker 1: team that's knocking out of the park. Where'd you have
Speaker 1: him on the big board, because you're talking about another
Speaker 1: Colorado corner Cowboys took one of those. Yeah, I had Witherspoon.
Speaker 1: Let's say I had him down at seventy five. There
Speaker 1: we go, we got the good one. He picked the
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, a woozy. I had definitely had ranked higher.
Speaker 1: But Witherspoon. He's a tall, tall, long rangey type of player.
Speaker 1: Fascinating because he didn't start playing football till the senior
Speaker 1: year in high school, because he was five eight as
Speaker 1: a junior in high school, sprouted up to six two
Speaker 1: as a senior and went out to play football and
Speaker 1: went to Juco route, went to Colorado, and then he
Speaker 1: goes and kind of blossoms as a senior that's past
Speaker 1: year in Boulder, lead the nation and passes defense. A
Speaker 1: lot to like about him. Now he struggles and run
Speaker 1: support and forty Niners already have a few of those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shard Robinson, right, rookie the head last Yeah right, So
Speaker 1: run support on the edges might be a little bit
Speaker 1: of an issue. But these guys can cover. Now, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I felt like a guy that had
Speaker 1: good time speed. I saw some separation there with him.
Speaker 1: He shocked me with how fasty ran. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that that was something because you watched the tape. I
Speaker 1: mean you see guys get away from him, and you know,
Speaker 1: I felt like he's very good in coverage when he
Speaker 1: could play the press man, but when he had to play,
Speaker 1: but when he had to play off that was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a problem for him. But the tighter
Speaker 1: he plays, really the better he is. He can make
Speaker 1: plays and I think he matches up pretty well against size.
Speaker 1: So the ball skills was another thing check in my
Speaker 1: notes that bothered me a little bit. Had a couple
Speaker 1: of chances to make interceptions down the field and just
Speaker 1: didn't come up with him. So Akello Witherspoon, he's the cornerback.
Speaker 1: He's going to go to the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: That puts the Saints on the clock, and they're walking
Speaker 1: the car to the podium as we speak. Like the
Speaker 1: pace the New Orleans Saints selection. Please well. From the
Speaker 1: University of Toledo wide receiver Lance More, I got this
Speaker 1: gab rot us, thank you. With the sixty seventh pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen NFL Drive, the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: select Alvin Kamara, running back Tennessee. Another running back, didn't
Speaker 1: they just signed Dadrian Peterson? Yeah, Alvin Kamara ends up
Speaker 1: with the Saints. Kind of an all purpose guy though,
Speaker 1: you know, Mara ingram Ingram right, Yeah, might be hearing
Speaker 1: about them trying to trade some guys. They're trying to
Speaker 1: stop Drew Brees from throwing the ball forty five times
Speaker 1: a game. Well, you don't need to run the We
Speaker 1: need to be able to run the football. But that's
Speaker 1: why you drafted Kamara because he can help you in
Speaker 1: the past. Yes, that's what he does best probably sure
Speaker 1: as a as a pass catcher out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Also can be a punt returner from day one. So
Speaker 1: you know, and really, do we know what we're getting
Speaker 1: in Adrian Peterson if you're listen, Yeah, you know it's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. He signed him do a two
Speaker 1: year deal worth seven mill. But you don't look, you
Speaker 1: trust he's going to be in shape, but you just
Speaker 1: you still don't know. This a little bit of insurance.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the secret audio Ki Garrison Woozier, let's
Speaker 1: hear what he had to say. Stand by, this is
Speaker 1: on okay, Dallas Cowboys dot com. Yes, yeah, secret audio
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. And we will hear the
Speaker 1: secret audio between here we go, this Jerry Jos, this
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and uh we just turned your card in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna drat you. Thank you so much. Well we are.
Speaker 1: We are proud, proud for you. You've had a heck
Speaker 1: of a career there Colorado, but you sure earned a
Speaker 1: lot of really good evaluation and comments about you as
Speaker 1: a person as well as a player. So it's a
Speaker 1: it's an honor to get be on the team with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Missus Zalls, you bet, you bet.
Speaker 1: Here's our head coach, Jason Garrett. You know job, how
Speaker 1: you doing? Coach doing great? Congratulations. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We're really excited for you, but we're equally excited for us.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to get going. This is a great thing
Speaker 1: for the Cowboy organization. It's a great opportunity. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get to work. Yes, serve me too. Congrats,
Speaker 1: it's a big day for you, big day for us.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to hand the phone
Speaker 1: to Rod Marinelli, our defensive coordinator. Look forward to seeing you.
Speaker 1: You're ready to get to work? Yes, sir, I'm ready. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Stud? Congratulations? You excited? I'm really excited. Good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. We need that and
Speaker 1: sawing them down. You're a heck of a player. Man,
Speaker 1: who're lucky to have you. Appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We had our fingers crossed. So I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see you. Okay, you too? All right, there you have it.
Speaker 1: I always love that audio. I love when Mary Gelli
Speaker 1: gets on there in stud get to work. Yeah, time
Speaker 1: to go to get solid on now. It's a good
Speaker 1: sounded kid. Though. You know you're wearing cleats, now put
Speaker 1: them on. Put them on? Absolutely so at secret audio.
Speaker 1: I love the secret audio. The favorite one of our
Speaker 1: my favorite draft moments was was that last year we're
Speaker 1: talking to Rod Marinelli on the air. Segment ends and
Speaker 1: he says, follow me, what we're doing radio? He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: follow me. He's like, all right, you guys got this.
Speaker 1: Walked back into his office and he's pointing what was
Speaker 1: the name, what was the name of the guy a
Speaker 1: new Rogney. No, well, no, he wanted us. He was
Speaker 1: telling us the first guy to call it. Blitz said,
Speaker 1: what do you know about Hunk Anderson. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like nothing, and he was like, give you some football history.
Speaker 1: Hunk called the first Blitz. Yeah. He takes us back
Speaker 1: and shows us his high school coach. He's in a
Speaker 1: suit and football cleats. Yeah, on the sideline. He said,
Speaker 1: see that, that's my high school coach. That's when I
Speaker 1: knew this is serious. It was really good day, and
Speaker 1: it was like and we it was like we were
Speaker 1: in a commercial break, so he had like five minutes
Speaker 1: to do this, and we learned he doesn't like the sprint.
Speaker 1: He doesn't sprint. No, he was off. It doesn't go
Speaker 1: very fast. He always got a fear and you get
Speaker 1: behind him in the walking him down the hallway at
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, you don't know whether to blow by him
Speaker 1: on the left or the right, or you just gotta
Speaker 1: walk right along with him. I found myself always kind
Speaker 1: of just walking right behind him. I never I never
Speaker 1: ever blew by him and try to get by. So
Speaker 1: now you know, if you ever see that trivia Unk
Speaker 1: and it was hunk and or sunk and called the
Speaker 1: first blitz all the first blitz. Well, I'll tell you what, though,
Speaker 1: there are times where people don't think he calls enough blitzes.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I told him that and he called me out.
Speaker 1: He was like, you are you counting the run blitzes?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't. I just looked up
Speaker 1: the numbers. There you go. Okay, New Orleans States take
Speaker 1: they we'll go back. That's pick sixty seven. They took
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, the running back. That puts Jacksonville on the clock.
Speaker 1: It looks like their pick is in. Uh we were
Speaker 1: four net and Cam Robinson. Yeah, so far in this draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so when you think about Jacksonville a little bit dane
Speaker 1: with so far they've helped the quarterback. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: will they continue to do that? I mean, really, you
Speaker 1: can help the quarterback by going defense here, riding another
Speaker 1: stud there. But there's there's Jacksonville is one of those
Speaker 1: teams where they don't have an obvious need, but they
Speaker 1: could use some way help across the rock depth in
Speaker 1: different places. So you're gonna see what direction they go here.
Speaker 1: We see the Tom Coughlin effect. How that's going to
Speaker 1: impact the roster. Brand new head coach as well with
Speaker 1: with Doug Morone. So let's go to the podium, see
Speaker 1: the Jaguars and take got the Jaguars up to announce
Speaker 1: to jackson Jacksonville selection. Please welcome from Louisiana Tech University
Speaker 1: kicker Josh Scobie scams Jaguars are running out of alum.
Speaker 1: With the sixty eighth pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Dwan Smoot d
Speaker 1: N Illinois. What's the past rushing? There's spash rusher right there.
Speaker 1: Scobes all time leading point score in Jaguar history were
Speaker 1: when I when I asked you about Smoot, Dwayne Smoot
Speaker 1: defensive in Illinois, I kind of got that look that
Speaker 1: was like, oh okay, well, okay, let's talk about some
Speaker 1: of the past rushers are still available. Licen bash him Rivers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us like Smoot over those
Speaker 1: three right, No, No, no, no, not at all. I
Speaker 1: think you guys like Smoot maybe a little bit more
Speaker 1: than I did. Still, I think we're all surprised on
Speaker 1: third round. We hadn't been third round on our on
Speaker 1: our one oh five three board, but just that the
Speaker 1: player is still a player. Yeah, the problem is because
Speaker 1: ran out of defensive ends. Yeah to put anywhere, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got bash him. And look, I mentioned this before.
Speaker 1: Derek Rivers was one of my favorite players in the fall.
Speaker 1: I loved him when I was watching him at Young
Speaker 1: Sound State, and then the hype just got way out
Speaker 1: of hand, I thought, and I had to hand off
Speaker 1: the keys of that bandwagon. Yeah, but I'm still surprise
Speaker 1: should be off the board by this point. It's this
Speaker 1: small school thing hurt him there probably, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think his struggles verus to run. I think that's
Speaker 1: really the big thing with him. I think hopefully he
Speaker 1: goes to a three to four team that I think
Speaker 1: that would suit him the best. Yeah. We talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, in our again in our mock that we
Speaker 1: did for on Wednesday before the draft. We we we passed,
Speaker 1: uh we passed an opportunity to draft him at sixty
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and then we were gonna pick
Speaker 1: we picked passing on at ninety two and so uh
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's a little bit surprising that that
Speaker 1: Rivers and Basham both are still on the board. If
Speaker 1: you're talking about defensive ends. It's a little bit surprising
Speaker 1: too that, you know, let's let's talk about this to
Speaker 1: another group. You know, we really Smith Schuster went, but
Speaker 1: we hadn't had a receiver if I'm not mistaken, And
Speaker 1: and now the Rams are the Rams selection, but we
Speaker 1: haven't had a receiver ghost since Zay Jones went early
Speaker 1: in the seventh round selection. So here we go. Let's
Speaker 1: see if the Rams please welcome from Oregon State University
Speaker 1: running back Stephen Jackson can't recognize the dress with the
Speaker 1: sixty and next picked the two thousand and seven teen
Speaker 1: NFL's raft, the Los Angeles Rams Cooper Cup receiver. Eastern
Speaker 1: watches it a Cooper Cup. Yeah, that was like this
Speaker 1: we're giving. What we're doing here is we're giving my guy,
Speaker 1: or I guess our guy for some of us here,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, whose early returns aren't great, we'll get. What
Speaker 1: we're giving him here is outlets to throw the ball quickly,
Speaker 1: Put Cooper Cup in the slot, let him create some
Speaker 1: quick separation and get the ball out. They already drafted
Speaker 1: Jerald Everett, the tight end who can do some work
Speaker 1: downfield as a past catcher, and look Cooper. Cup's not
Speaker 1: a blazer. He's not going to create down the field.
Speaker 1: He'll catch every single ball though, that's it. Well, he
Speaker 1: creates separation with sort of shifting acceptive that there's an
Speaker 1: ens of shiftiness to the round. And that's why I
Speaker 1: think he's a slot player only I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: love him on the outside, but you put him in
Speaker 1: the slot. The way he can manipulate coverages, find those
Speaker 1: open spaces and zone. I mean, there's a reason this
Speaker 1: guy was so productive. And we can talk about the
Speaker 1: FCS level and level of competition. Watch up against the
Speaker 1: four PAC twelve opponents on his schedule. Yea, those numbers
Speaker 1: are pretty oppressive. Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy's just as a football player, it really is, and
Speaker 1: it's in his blood, his grandfather, his dad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a very productive pro.
Speaker 1: He might not be uh, you know, an All Pro,
Speaker 1: but he'll be a very productive pro. And I love
Speaker 1: that Jared Goff is getting some help. I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be a fun connection to watch, you know.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, he's an easy guy to kind of
Speaker 1: uh maybe not be high on because of the red
Speaker 1: field he played, on. Some really didn't like that bit,
Speaker 1: did you. I didn't like the red on red. Why
Speaker 1: are we wearing red jerseys on the red field? I
Speaker 1: don't remind a camouflage from a little bit. Huh as
Speaker 1: that strategy, I don't get it. Uh So Cooper kemp
Speaker 1: On like a lot, I mean, I like a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's I mean. He was one of myur He was
Speaker 1: on our third round board, on our one uh five
Speaker 1: three at the fan board, right yeah, looking at all this,
Speaker 1: you did mention wide receivers God one Hansen, uh Isaiah Ford.
Speaker 1: You see, That's what I was trying to get to.
Speaker 1: I thought that I thought the quality of the of
Speaker 1: the second round, the second round wide receiver was pretty good.
Speaker 1: And and and then all of a sudden, now we're
Speaker 1: getting into the third round, and these guys are starting
Speaker 1: to get picked instead of being second round players. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, teams are starting to grab them in the
Speaker 1: in the third round. We'll probably look back at this
Speaker 1: draft a couple of years from well, we gotta pick
Speaker 1: here from Minnesota. Minnesota is now on the podium selection.
Speaker 1: But they made a train from the University of Maryland.
Speaker 1: Free Safety made you wams with the seventieth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Pat
Speaker 1: f Line, center, Ohio staring pick the good players. Now
Speaker 1: we're cooking, and l finds a player who can he
Speaker 1: guard our center. Yeah, and he can start tomorrow. Yeah
Speaker 1: he can't. And the Vikings needed help there. So it's
Speaker 1: a heck of a pick there, you know. I tell
Speaker 1: you what, though I liked him a lot, to me,
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound funny. I saw a little of I
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of Travis Frederick in this guy.
Speaker 1: And and because he didn't run a very he doesn't
Speaker 1: have great foot speed or he's not a guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna run a great forty time. But you watch him play,
Speaker 1: and you watch him pull. He stays on his feet,
Speaker 1: he knows how to play with leverage, he's strong, he
Speaker 1: finished his blocks. There's a lot of criticisms of what
Speaker 1: happened with when Travis Frederick was taken that, oh man,
Speaker 1: he's a bad workout guy, not a high bencher, all
Speaker 1: these things. This Pat f Line, you talk about a
Speaker 1: guy who plays guard, he plays center. He's gonna cook.
Speaker 1: He's a to me, he's a plug and play player.
Speaker 1: He because I love the toughness with the kid. I
Speaker 1: love the leverage good, I love his ability to stay
Speaker 1: on his feet. Absolutely right to the Vikings. They don't
Speaker 1: have a first round pick. Yeah, so far they drafted
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and poundaff Line. Yeah, it's a heck of
Speaker 1: a haul for not picking in the first round the show.
Speaker 1: That's what you expect as big ten lineman though, real technical,
Speaker 1: good hand placement, good hands, always in control of their
Speaker 1: game and now opening up holes for Dalvin Cook right
Speaker 1: in Minnesota's a really really good job by Minnesota in
Speaker 1: a game. He was a starter at guard before he
Speaker 1: moved to center. He's made a ton of starts. Yeah
Speaker 1: he can. He can realistically play either or Okay, so
Speaker 1: that means uh, Pat f Line, he goes to the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. That puts the Los Angeles Chargers on the
Speaker 1: clock at pick three seventy one. Uh the kt I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you give an idea with the Chargers? Uh? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Chargers so far they went with Mike Williams in the
Speaker 1: first round, and then they also added some uh some
Speaker 1: offense as well with their second pick in a Forrest
Speaker 1: Lamp at guard. There you go, so help Philip Rivers out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: help Philip Rivers out here. So let's see what in
Speaker 1: fact the Los Angeles Chargers do. Uh, you know we
Speaker 1: mentioned this. I think there's some teams now that and
Speaker 1: this is something I'm gonna throw out. Some of these
Speaker 1: teams that have veteran quarterbacks, with maybe the exception of
Speaker 1: the Giants, teams that are having to think about replace
Speaker 1: their quarterback down the line. Get your offensive line right.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen that now get you know, if
Speaker 1: you're a team. And to me, the Chargers fall into
Speaker 1: that group. When you when you talk about adding Forrest Lamp,
Speaker 1: you know, figure out a way to help your quarterback currently,
Speaker 1: but figure out a way to to make you know,
Speaker 1: to make your guy when you transition to the young quarterback,
Speaker 1: to make it a smoother chance. I think we've seen
Speaker 1: that with the Cowboys do it different than the other
Speaker 1: LA team. You know, where you get your quarterback and
Speaker 1: you put him in to crap right like here, if
Speaker 1: you can build up you know, resources around him, it
Speaker 1: makes an easier transition. Yeah. I think that's what definitely
Speaker 1: what they're in the process of doing. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that you know that you've got to the one thing
Speaker 1: that Cowboys have shown is that you know, you get
Speaker 1: your offensive line right and you have ability to run
Speaker 1: the football. You know you could you can help your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You could help him a ton. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott would have had the type of season
Speaker 1: he had if it wasn't for the offensive line and
Speaker 1: then also though for Ezekiel Elliott being that running back.
Speaker 1: So we are waiting for the Charger's pick. It is
Speaker 1: in at three seventy one. We're just waiting for Troy
Speaker 1: Vincent to make his way to the podium and uh
Speaker 1: and and deliver that pick. So um, I mean there's
Speaker 1: like this is this is really fun because I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we're still twenty picks away from when the Cowboys picked right.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at my board and he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of names still out there floating around, names that
Speaker 1: you quite frankly thought wouldn't be there at this point.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Derek Rivers earlier, Terrell Basham from Ohio. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I Carl Lawson's kind of a kind of
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, it must be. And you know we
Speaker 1: were talking about that Dane. I mean we had him
Speaker 1: on our board in the first round. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: with him, and you know we were talking about like
Speaker 1: Brandy Graham. That's kind of the comparison. You know, I
Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna get a high motor, high effort
Speaker 1: short of what's does he have a medical because I
Speaker 1: never I never got the feeling that he was a
Speaker 1: guy that had had a medical condition. Well than the
Speaker 1: NFL's wrong to this point, he's better than the seventy
Speaker 1: seventieth best player in this drap I get it. I'll
Speaker 1: go ahead, Dane. No, the medicals are are tough because look,
Speaker 1: he missed parts of two seasons with hip issue and ACLU.
Speaker 1: The biggest issue might be just short arms, and we
Speaker 1: know how the NFL does not lay short arms, especially
Speaker 1: in the pass Russia. Let's go to the podium and
Speaker 1: fren to Los Angeles Charger selection. Please welcome from Georgia
Speaker 1: Tech outside linebacker Jeremiah attached you with the seventy first
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: started to select Dan Phoenie Gardens. Now there you go, Oh,
Speaker 1: look at them. Go right now. If you look at
Speaker 1: the Dane, I'll let you get to Jeff. The one
Speaker 1: oh five three board Dawkins has gone. Now, Phoenie's gone.
Speaker 1: Lamp went earlier though. We had a Dawkins Phoenie Lamp though, poet.
Speaker 1: But they got two of our guys in the second round,
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, the third round value here with a
Speaker 1: second round player. Yeah. For me watching Phoenie play, and
Speaker 1: first of all, I think, to me, they took two
Speaker 1: of the three best maybe offensive lineman in this draft.
Speaker 1: Obviously you get a little more value at tackle, and
Speaker 1: we liked ram Chick. But when you talk about Forest Lamp,
Speaker 1: you talk about Dan Foenie, you're talking about the third round.
Speaker 1: You're talking about step in starters. And to me, I
Speaker 1: think Foenie's going to be a good starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You watch him play. We saw him play some some guard,
Speaker 1: some tackle. I thought, you play him at guard. He
Speaker 1: looks better in that sort of in the phone booth.
Speaker 1: I like the way that he sort of was able
Speaker 1: to jolt guys out a hold of him. You can
Speaker 1: tell that he works hard. You see how smart he
Speaker 1: is on combination blocks, helping on one guy and then
Speaker 1: getting to the second level to clean up and keep helping.
Speaker 1: I thought I saw a really intelligent, solid player when
Speaker 1: we watched Dan Foenie, the offensive lineman out of Indiana.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good pick at that spot.
Speaker 1: I thought as one shining moment for me is when
Speaker 1: Taco tried to work to spin move on him and yeah,
Speaker 1: shut it down. Yeah you're not getting in here. What
Speaker 1: are you doing right now? Yeah? Tacos are guy telling you?
Speaker 1: How good Dan Foenie is? Yeah? If you like yeah,
Speaker 1: if you like it, how good Taco is? This is
Speaker 1: a pick. This this was originally the pick that belonged
Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. This has been the Patriots
Speaker 1: first pick. Patriots are gonna trade out, and they traded
Speaker 1: They trade it out. They moved back. Now Tennessee is
Speaker 1: the Titans are on the clock. We're waiting for the selection.
Speaker 1: Troy Vincent's at the podium. Diversity of Southern California defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Darrell Casey. Pretty good little player there, brought us.
Speaker 1: He was a seventy second pick in the two thousand
Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Taiwan Taylor,
Speaker 1: receiver Western Kentucky's good, good player. All right, talk about
Speaker 1: him a little bit, Jeff, But let me get the
Speaker 1: notes up. Because the first thing that popped into my
Speaker 1: head is that is a good, good place. He's a
Speaker 1: big play threat. He averaged seventeen yards per catch each
Speaker 1: of the last three years. Yeah, I mean forty one
Speaker 1: touchdowns receiving touchdowns over his career. That's top ten in
Speaker 1: FBS history. I mean he was he benefited from the
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky pass attack at high volume targets, but he
Speaker 1: took advantage of those and he didn't look out of
Speaker 1: place against Alabama against some of the bigger team competition
Speaker 1: they faced. I thought that, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: one of the big things with him. Because we talk
Speaker 1: about Forrest Lamp playing against Alabama, I think for Taywan Taylor,
Speaker 1: it's sort of the same thing. You talk about ninety
Speaker 1: eight catches, seventeen hundred yards and seventeen touchdowns, but then
Speaker 1: you watch him play and see how he does it
Speaker 1: for a littler guy. I think he can catch the
Speaker 1: ball away from his body. He's got easy hands. When
Speaker 1: you watch him stopping at the top of routes, it's immediate,
Speaker 1: it's really good, and he's not easy to bring down
Speaker 1: after the catch. I think there's some toughness there. You
Speaker 1: see him get open on all levels of a defense.
Speaker 1: You see him track of football. I liked a lot
Speaker 1: of excellent hands, working the sideline and getting a foot
Speaker 1: down where a lot of guys won't. I think he
Speaker 1: saw that some of that from him. I think that's
Speaker 1: another really good pick here in the third round. What
Speaker 1: I like most about him Everything he does is quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything yeah from yeah, with his routes, his releases at
Speaker 1: the stem, even when he plucks, I mean, he puts
Speaker 1: the football away and he gets going, so he's always
Speaker 1: looking to create after the catch. He's not a possession guy.
Speaker 1: He's more than that. Not the biggest guy we got
Speaker 1: since Bengals. Yeah, you're right, he's not the biggest. Sie
Speaker 1: Let's go the Bengals on the pocket from Duke University
Speaker 1: linebacker fcent Ray. With the seventy third pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jordan Willis
Speaker 1: Kansas State. So John Ross, Joe Mixon and Jordan Willis
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. They're having a hank of a draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jordan Willis at this point in the draft. I know
Speaker 1: you watched Jordan Willison's the guy who had double digit
Speaker 1: sacks at Kansas State. But then when he got to
Speaker 1: to the combine, I think he blew us all away.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I didn't the three we didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not see those measurables coming
Speaker 1: in terms of the times that he put up. So
Speaker 1: you wondered, how far is that gonna push him up
Speaker 1: the board because we thought he was what a sort
Speaker 1: of a third round player, and to see him still
Speaker 1: get picked at that spot actually a little bit surprising
Speaker 1: to me. I thought he might have elevated himself with
Speaker 1: some NFL teams with that workout, because you look at
Speaker 1: three cone times, you look at explosion, the ten yards split,
Speaker 1: and you wonder if somebody is going to look at
Speaker 1: that and kind of push him up their board. But
Speaker 1: they didn't, and he finds himself here in the third round,
Speaker 1: where that's a pretty good value because if at least
Speaker 1: his potential with that athleticism. Now, what point are we
Speaker 1: on Jake butt watch for the Cowboys. I'll take him
Speaker 1: at what point? I know they didn't bring him in
Speaker 1: for a top thirty visit. I know I'll take him.
Speaker 1: But listen, we know this team likes tight end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the medical and from what I understand there, people say,
Speaker 1: don't bet against this guy being ready for the season.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was a clean aca. Yeah, don't be
Speaker 1: don't bet it. Don't bet against him. So and it's
Speaker 1: popular now to do when you pick a tight end.
Speaker 1: They call Evan Ingram a tight end. He's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's popular now with these tight ends. Oj Howard runs
Speaker 1: really well. David and Joku run is really well. And
Speaker 1: Jake Butts he's not that kind of player. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and run a four or five.
Speaker 1: But what he is I think is a tight end
Speaker 1: that understands route running, that can do. You know, you
Speaker 1: watch a guy that knows how to stem guys, knows
Speaker 1: how to get a little bit of separation and catch
Speaker 1: the football. To me, it's it's it's almost kind of
Speaker 1: old school. Maybe not that sort of blocker that you
Speaker 1: would dream of, but maybe functional as a blocker that
Speaker 1: just gets it. He gets how to play the position,
Speaker 1: He understands how to get open and make a target
Speaker 1: for his quarterback at ninety two. I know you got
Speaker 1: other things you need. But if they if they want
Speaker 1: about that tight end, I got no problem with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Xavier Woods is our guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got him slotted in there. If Jake Butts at
Speaker 1: ninety two, you gotta take him, have to, I mean
Speaker 1: at that value until Fabian More's at ninety two. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he started. Now we're power ranking the red
Speaker 1: shirt situations here. If you start talking about you know,
Speaker 1: Moreau and then button all that. Desmond Kings still on
Speaker 1: the board too, guys. Yeah, my favorite football player in that.
Speaker 1: I love Desmond King myself, and I you know, I
Speaker 1: understand what ja You know. I asked a scout here
Speaker 1: way way way early about about Jake Butt and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, a lot of crossing routes, a lot
Speaker 1: of crossing routes. You know, remember you watch the tape.
Speaker 1: It's like you know with with horrorball on those guys,
Speaker 1: it's a it is. It's a lot of rub routes,
Speaker 1: a lot of underneath stuff. He got hurt on a
Speaker 1: play in the game, going down the field, game in
Speaker 1: a bowl game, so you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: mean always the scouts when they when they when they
Speaker 1: make that quick comment, yeah, he's got runs a lot
Speaker 1: of underneath stuff. You know, runs a lot you know,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, I don't think See, I don't think
Speaker 1: you could discount his ability because if he doesn't get hurt,
Speaker 1: he's going he's going into He's going to late one
Speaker 1: in the second round, don't you think. And it's not
Speaker 1: it's not your fault what your offense has you do. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: are we gonna knock O. J. Howard for the amount
Speaker 1: of opportunities that he got, Zay Jones for the fact
Speaker 1: that they never went deep for Jake. But I actually
Speaker 1: have it in my notes because when he did go vertically.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that just understands how to get open.
Speaker 1: He has a guy behind him that he can't see,
Speaker 1: and he still understands to jab him whichever way. He
Speaker 1: can't even see the guy. He's not setting up a
Speaker 1: guy in front of him. He just knows where guys
Speaker 1: are on the field and what he can do to
Speaker 1: create more space for himself. I think he's better than
Speaker 1: he's getting credit for. If you're saying that it's kind
Speaker 1: of pick plays getting him open, and he's not great
Speaker 1: in anyone area. He's just he's pretty good across the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can win with those stubs. You need those types
Speaker 1: of guys in your roster, and especially if you give
Speaker 1: it ninety two. Yeah, and and everything that I've heard
Speaker 1: on the medical side of it was very very very positive,
Speaker 1: very positive. So that's the fun part there. Though. Again
Speaker 1: we're in the seventies now and we are looking in
Speaker 1: a draft and when people pick guys were like, yep,
Speaker 1: step in starter, step in starter. And we're in the seventies.
Speaker 1: It's the deepest draft I've seen. Now, it's only four years,
Speaker 1: but Dane or Brian comparing to you know how long
Speaker 1: you guys have been at this. When's the last time
Speaker 1: you saw something like this? Because I'm staring at step
Speaker 1: in starters on a board in the seven. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: still we got the pity of the pick right now.
Speaker 1: We got the Ravens on the podium with the four
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen the NFL Draft, the newest member
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens family. We select Chris Wormley, defensive
Speaker 1: tackle from Michigan. Chris Wormley. Obviously you have the connection
Speaker 1: with them. I love Chris Wormley. I think he's he's
Speaker 1: that traditional base end four three three four. Uh. He
Speaker 1: tested really well, but I don't think he's much of
Speaker 1: a pass rush, So that's not where he's Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna play against that run. He's gonna he's gonna play
Speaker 1: a five technique head up right. Absolutely, So this is
Speaker 1: it's a solid pick. Yeah. And there's a connection too.
Speaker 1: They were talking about that you talk about the brother
Speaker 1: to the brother right there Ravens and the and the
Speaker 1: Michigan Wolverine. So obviously they knew a lot about Chris
Speaker 1: Wormley and uh and what he is ability is. I
Speaker 1: totally agree with you about about him and his you know,
Speaker 1: playing that head up five technique extend hand. I'm on, people,
Speaker 1: get to the football. What Jeff was saying about how
Speaker 1: the depth of this class and how these players are
Speaker 1: like the fact that I'm looking at these teams, looking
Speaker 1: at the halls they're getting, it's hard to pick true
Speaker 1: winners because you're looking at this team wants three starters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this team three starters. Like it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: pick winners from this draft because most of these teams
Speaker 1: through three rounds, we're almost you know, halfway through the
Speaker 1: third are picking very good players because that's what's available
Speaker 1: in this draft class, and so eager to see who's
Speaker 1: as we get closer to ninety two. Who could still
Speaker 1: be left? Well here the Falcons there picks seventy five
Speaker 1: and they're about to make a selection to announce the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcon selection. Please well Atlantis man of the Year
Speaker 1: punner Matt Bosher and former running back Gerald Riggs. Grig
Speaker 1: a good player, K, I believe you. And the two
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcon selects Duke Riley. Jeff,
Speaker 1: there's the pick. That's the guy, Tommy Devin Trop a
Speaker 1: man with good hair. Hold on a second, who picked him? Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Atlanta pol the same trend. So Dane and I every
Speaker 1: time we talk about Duke Riley, Yeah what I what
Speaker 1: I told Dane, at least in my eyes, I said,
Speaker 1: Dion Jones, the LSU linebackers, I went to Atlanta, I
Speaker 1: believe in the second round list, Yeah, I said, Dean
Speaker 1: Jones was good, went to the NFL and he helped
Speaker 1: the Falcons a lot, and look where they ended up.
Speaker 1: And I think to me, Duke Riley is a better
Speaker 1: player on tape and now here you are in the
Speaker 1: third round. And he's followed Dion Jones footsteps every literally
Speaker 1: every step of his career. And now they're gonna go
Speaker 1: play together their special teams the first three years. They're
Speaker 1: both from New Orleans. They both followed the same trajectory
Speaker 1: at LS the seniors and turned themselves into high draft picks,
Speaker 1: both Day two picks, both going to Atlanta. And we
Speaker 1: welcome back David Hellmant some duties on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: You are the LSU guys. Talk talk a little about it.
Speaker 1: You can, no, no, you got him ahead. Talk about
Speaker 1: Duke Riley. You know what it's I mean, we just
Speaker 1: set that up. But it's funny because like I learned
Speaker 1: my lesson from Dion Jones because we always were hard.
Speaker 1: We're hard on the LS you guys, because we don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like Homer's. Duke Riley is just fun
Speaker 1: to watch. And yeah, I mean he didn't really earn
Speaker 1: a big role in that defense until he was a senior,
Speaker 1: and he played like gang Bus. Here's the Saints selection
Speaker 1: at seventy six. Select alex ANZELONEI, linebacker Florida. Okay, Dave,
Speaker 1: finish up. We'll get to Alice and keep talking about
Speaker 1: the better line. He just he's he's seeking missile like
Speaker 1: he's not and just like Deon Jones, Like he's not
Speaker 1: impressive in the like he's not like going to get
Speaker 1: off the bus and wow you in terms of his stature.
Speaker 1: But he just gets to the ball and hits stuff
Speaker 1: a lot. And you know, you talk about like the
Speaker 1: Alabama linebackers who hurt people. He's maybe not as impressive
Speaker 1: as like a Ruben Foster and that hard stand up
Speaker 1: most Scarborough in a hole. I just love he just
Speaker 1: he just sniffs it out and gets there. He could run.
Speaker 1: That's the thing I love about him is a fact
Speaker 1: he's a football. He's gone and he makes it hard
Speaker 1: for the blockers to get to him because he's a
Speaker 1: step or two ahead. You know, he puts blockers behind
Speaker 1: the way he plays. You watch Zach Cunninghammer somebody play
Speaker 1: the Vanderbilt linebacker, and it's natural strength. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like extend get off. With Duke Riley. It's more like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a way around you. There'd be some content.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you hit. I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: direct take on, but I'm gonna find a way around
Speaker 1: or through you to the ball. I love Duke Riley.
Speaker 1: That's what for that spot to be drafted for me.
Speaker 1: That's one of the best value picks so far. Oh,
Speaker 1: Duke Riley. He goes to the Atlanta Falcons, who again
Speaker 1: already had where was a second round great on your guys,
Speaker 1: Duke Riley was the second round grade? Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1: I had a forty two overall on my board, so
Speaker 1: a great value. Okay. So now we'll go to the podium,
Speaker 1: and it looks like Carolina. It was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite to Carolina Panthers or selection. Please welcome from the
Speaker 1: you tight end Gray Golds looks like the blonde guy
Speaker 1: from school Scooby Doo Shaggy With twenty seventeen, the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers select day Shawn Hall DM great pick for them,
Speaker 1: Day Shawn Hall. I told you he was gonna go
Speaker 1: higher than he should, just because when you look at
Speaker 1: the length, you look at the raw measurables. That's that's
Speaker 1: what the NFL teams like ahead of Bash, him, ahead
Speaker 1: of Lawson. Okay, and that's insanity. I what I know,
Speaker 1: y'all don't like him whatever. But and Dane, this it's
Speaker 1: fitting because this is the last thing you said before
Speaker 1: I left. But I love Carolina's draft right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there. I mean, besides this pick, I like it.
Speaker 1: I liked it. I don't mind like this pick. Do
Speaker 1: you like? Do you like Hall? Get like? I am
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna stand up for the guys that
Speaker 1: y'all are crapping on. That's what I did, Big Coco,
Speaker 1: that's I go ahead, you're the expert. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: help you. My biggest issue with Dashawn oh you have
Speaker 1: a voice here? No, no, no, but I want to
Speaker 1: hear Dane's my biggest issue with Dashawn Hall. Miles Garrett's
Speaker 1: on the other side of you. You you better clean
Speaker 1: up when Miles Garrett's getting the double triple teams all
Speaker 1: the attention and Dashawn Hall on the other side at
Speaker 1: left end had four and a half sacks. I need
Speaker 1: more from you. Don't you think that he's going to
Speaker 1: a situation where there will be guys who can take
Speaker 1: the pressure off him though, Carolina, Yeah, A Peppers is
Speaker 1: forty years old. Peppers is there assure on him? At
Speaker 1: at M he's still they just resigned Kwan Short. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's not an end, but you got another
Speaker 1: guy that a line has to focus on. I'll be
Speaker 1: surprised if we see a lot of Dayshawn Hall's a rookie,
Speaker 1: I really will I think this is a I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a measurables pick. This is something that you
Speaker 1: hope he can develop into. Uh you know what you
Speaker 1: want him to be to justify a pick this early
Speaker 1: ahead of And again it's not just Dashawn Hall, it's
Speaker 1: Derek Rivers is still around. Tim Williams, it's still around.
Speaker 1: Take we take a look at the How damn that
Speaker 1: we're back at the Ford Center war room him Williams
Speaker 1: still being around. Yeah, well they'll see we'll see what
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, we'll see about Tim Williams. Here. Baltimore
Speaker 1: is back on the clock with picks. Good players. Ozzie
Speaker 1: Ozzie Knewso my my buddy who saves me Alabama my nightmare.
Speaker 1: But he uh, Ozzie Knews who saves me a seat
Speaker 1: all the time at the at the Senior Bowl. I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's so nice to Yes, he's
Speaker 1: really nice to me. But anyway, he's about to be
Speaker 1: on the Uh, well he is on the clock his
Speaker 1: picks in. Would you be surprised here if he took
Speaker 1: Tim Williams. No, not at all Alabama. I mean that
Speaker 1: that makes sense? Does I mean you brought the name up.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing off what you're saying. At well, we
Speaker 1: talk about Okay, if he's cleaning off the field, he's
Speaker 1: a first round pick. It was our second pass rusher
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, right, so second one. We're talking
Speaker 1: here in the third round, AT's pick seventy eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: at some point, you know, similar to Randy Gregory, all
Speaker 1: the issues, but at some point he's worth it. And
Speaker 1: if it turns out great, Okay, if it doesn't, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you live with it. And here in the
Speaker 1: third round at seventy eight, this is something that the
Speaker 1: Ravens might be willing to pull the trigger. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think Ozzie knew soothing it just makes too much sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, we felt like the Cincinnati. We had a
Speaker 1: feeling about the Cincinnati taking the Runner. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that this is gonna it's gonna be. It's gotta
Speaker 1: be Tim Weeves Well, and they love their front seven
Speaker 1: guys in Baltimore. Yeah, And unless I have this wrong,
Speaker 1: would this mean they had taken Chris Wormley, Tias Bowser,
Speaker 1: and then potentially now another outside linebacker d ND type
Speaker 1: of guy that do. That's stacking up a front set
Speaker 1: while some teams are building in their safety. Back here,
Speaker 1: build your front set well, and it's you look at
Speaker 1: that front seven. Elvis Dumerville's gone, Terrell Suggs is on
Speaker 1: the back nine, approaching eighteen. There you go nine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the back nine. Uh. And then you look at Timmy
Speaker 1: journing in no longer there. I mean, they're they're doing
Speaker 1: it the right way, Sweet Timmy. All right, let's see
Speaker 1: who in fact the Ravens. They haven't gone to the
Speaker 1: podium yet. We owe our listeners out there a little break.
Speaker 1: We will I want to get this pick for the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back to it. Looking at the
Speaker 1: Ford Center war room cam right now, Jerry Jones jacket off,
Speaker 1: but not in the room. Stephen Jones, he's got the
Speaker 1: tie loose. And Will McClay everybody's talking. I like the
Speaker 1: fact this is where everybody's out of the room, and
Speaker 1: this is where you get a lot of good things done.
Speaker 1: Right here, guys kind of talking to each other and
Speaker 1: making a plan, kind of formulating. I see Will is
Speaker 1: explaining something to Jason Garrett. Maybe maybe the direction, Maybe
Speaker 1: he got some intelligence from his pro guys. That's what
Speaker 1: they kind of give you an idea of Jason. This
Speaker 1: guy's name is Fabian Moreau. We're gonna pick him here
Speaker 1: in a minute. Yeah, you know it's the picks have
Speaker 1: been going pretty fast and furious here, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if if in fact that holds true. Again, the Ravens
Speaker 1: are on the clock. They this will be pick seventy eight.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are sitting at pick ninety two, so TEAMUS
Speaker 1: fifteen spots, yeah, team minus fifteen spots. I like to
Speaker 1: when he gets close to the fourteen, I like to
Speaker 1: start talking about what the Cowboys are doing. We I
Speaker 1: feel like we do a pretty good job of talking
Speaker 1: about everybody's draft. But now you start getting to the
Speaker 1: points where you know what guys are left on these board.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be rolling through some of the names we
Speaker 1: were dreaming of at sixty. Yeah. Well here we go,
Speaker 1: and with the Ravens pick, we'll see. All right, let's
Speaker 1: listen in. Hey. First of all, I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you to Philly the NFL for allowing me
Speaker 1: to come out here. The Shawn mcgratitude to the fans.
Speaker 1: So it's been awesome. With the seventy eighth pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the newest member of the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens family, the Ravens pick select Tim Williams. There,
Speaker 1: it just made way too much sense, didn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Azzi he is. He was an All American. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, all American in Alabama. He has deep ties
Speaker 1: to the state of Alabama. Actually, I think he if
Speaker 1: he ran for governor of the state of Alabama, I
Speaker 1: think he would win. But yeah, he has a he's
Speaker 1: already I believe he picked Morland Humphrey too. That's gonna okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jeff touched on that a minute ago with what
Speaker 1: they've done in the later rounds. But so so, so
Speaker 1: far their draft is Marlon Humphrey, Tias Bowser, Chris Wormley,
Speaker 1: and now Tim Williams. But you go back to Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens football. Yeah, if if Tim Williams can stay on
Speaker 1: the field, which that's the only reason he wasn't a
Speaker 1: first round pick, Dane, It's that, fairs the only reason
Speaker 1: he wasn't a first round pick. Again, Hey, maybe it
Speaker 1: won't work out. It didn't work out with Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: but if it does, this defense looks pretty freaking terrifying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then again, Ozzie knew some picking Tim Williams. We thought
Speaker 1: we had a first round grade. Again, we grade the
Speaker 1: board on the tape. We don't have you know, we
Speaker 1: don't make it a deal with the red flags and
Speaker 1: all that, but you have to I mean, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but we just Brian doesn't. Brian and Jeff just want players.
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep it on the field though. My other
Speaker 1: concern with Tim Williams. Yeah, he only played twenty eight
Speaker 1: snaps per game. That was but you know he had
Speaker 1: two starts in his career. Sure, Nick Saban didn't completely
Speaker 1: trust him versus the run. Yeah, that doesn't mean he
Speaker 1: can't get better and be a better run player, but
Speaker 1: he was not trusted with that type of responsibility. So
Speaker 1: you know, he's going to be a pass rush specialist
Speaker 1: as a rookie, and you know, we'll see how he develops.
Speaker 1: If you can turn into an every down player, but
Speaker 1: that's no guarantee prediction. He will lead the preseason, all
Speaker 1: the preseason players for sacks. I guarantee he was gonna
Speaker 1: be like the Randy Gregor sack a game guy. Well,
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna end up with, you know, four
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, five and a half sacks and
Speaker 1: all the games he getting to play in. So we'll see, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see it, but we'll see how he does when
Speaker 1: the when the varsity starts out there. So Tim Williams
Speaker 1: University of alabamainteen sixty college football. The varsity. Yeah, the varsity.
Speaker 1: I'm in nineteen sixties. Guy, Uh we got Now we
Speaker 1: go from Baltimore. The New York Jets are there at
Speaker 1: the podium taking please welcome from Alburton University fullback Tony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Pretty good little player there, brought us, yeah, the league.
Speaker 1: In the twenty seventeen NFL Draft from New York Jet
Speaker 1: Et Jets select our Darius Stewart, receiver Alabama. Like that pick,
Speaker 1: You like that pick? Like that pick? He was, uh,
Speaker 1: the top players available on my board. I think he'd
Speaker 1: be Morton just a receiver too. He's kind of a
Speaker 1: can Jet sweep him, you can use. He was a
Speaker 1: quarterback in high school, so he could do a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything, including throw the ball. So it reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit of a smaller Muhammad Sanu when
Speaker 1: he's coming out of Rutgers. He can do a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything, can develop into an impact receiver. I
Speaker 1: think there's a better receiver on the board, Chad Hanson.
Speaker 1: But our Darius Stewart was right there for me in
Speaker 1: terms of being one of the best values here. Okay,
Speaker 1: so our Darius Stewart he wide receiver Alabama Alabama players
Speaker 1: go back to back to the Jets. Okay, we owe
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Speaker 1: three the fan Back here for Day two of the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft from the SWBC Mortgage Studios Brian broad Us,
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin KT Turner, and David Hellman.
Speaker 1: We are now. Washington just made their selection. Washington just
Speaker 1: took quarterback from UCLA Fabian Moreau. Brian, does it hurt
Speaker 1: to see your pet cat of three months go to
Speaker 1: a division rival? I get to see him play twice
Speaker 1: a year now, so that'll be interesting. So Fabian Moreau
Speaker 1: is the selection at three eighty one, but by the
Speaker 1: washing redskinstil you get the pick before that, Dave too.
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts at three eighty took Terrell Basham defensive
Speaker 1: end from Ohio. Dane fill me in on Basham's pick
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis, Like, how you in bash him. It's not Bashim,
Speaker 1: it's bash him, And it's perfect name for a defensive
Speaker 1: entashm uh, you know, the mac defensive player of the Year,
Speaker 1: kind of like Taco. I really like how he got
Speaker 1: better every year and you really did see that with
Speaker 1: bash Him and Eat. Talk about the Colts and Chris
Speaker 1: Ballard having a nice, nice draft so far, another one
Speaker 1: he cleans up with a second round player in the third.
Speaker 1: So but again we talked about the depth of this draft.
Speaker 1: The fact that you get trill Basham in the third round,
Speaker 1: in mid third round, that's a that's a heck of
Speaker 1: a pick. Jeff, give me a little insight on Fabian Moreau.
Speaker 1: You see, Oh, I almost feel like it would be
Speaker 1: wrong for me to give you insight on Fabian Moreau
Speaker 1: because he's your guy. I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: youth thing. I'd tell you. The favorite thing that I
Speaker 1: saw from him is so many corners. In college football,
Speaker 1: one of the easiest things for college receivers to do
Speaker 1: to get open is to run a drag route. Yeah,
Speaker 1: run a drag run. Something that breaks inside. But Fabian
Speaker 1: Moreau is just blazing speed. You know, the ability that
Speaker 1: when a guy's running all the way across the field,
Speaker 1: you just don't see college corners able to track that down.
Speaker 1: And with Fabian Moreau, you see it. That guy is scooting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I had lunch with Dave Campo, who's
Speaker 1: doing TV work for us, over on the other side
Speaker 1: of the building, and I asked, David said, Dave, you
Speaker 1: know this is how I evaluate cornerbacks. I go, you're
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at me for this, He says, nobody got
Speaker 1: I'd said, if a cornerback, if a receiver runs a
Speaker 1: route that goes all the way across the field and
Speaker 1: he's in position and knock the football away and there's
Speaker 1: no separation and he doesn't get called for pass interference,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good cornerback. He says. I Am not
Speaker 1: going to laugh at you at all. That's exactly where
Speaker 1: you need to And that's just to reiterate the point
Speaker 1: that she's made. But yeah, it's not huge route trees
Speaker 1: in the in college football. But you have to deal
Speaker 1: with a lot of quickness, you have to deal with
Speaker 1: a lot of speed. You gotta deal with a lot
Speaker 1: of jump balls. I think Fabin Brow was that kind
Speaker 1: of guy. I felt like that maybe at sixty that
Speaker 1: they would have taken a shot at him. But here
Speaker 1: the Redskins at eighty one get the opportunity. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, or I'll see him play twice a year now.
Speaker 1: Who knows. If Woosia was off the board, maybe Moreau
Speaker 1: was there and guy, yeah, maybe so very much. Look,
Speaker 1: he was my top player available. So it's a good,
Speaker 1: very good pick by the Redskins, kind of resetting the board. Now,
Speaker 1: top three players from me, Chad Hanson the wide receiver
Speaker 1: from cal Carl Lawson's pass rusher from Auburn still out there,
Speaker 1: George Lewis the quarter from Michigan, Cordella tink Tankerusly the
Speaker 1: corner from Clemson, and then Chris Godwin, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: from Penn. Stay. Yeah, I think somebody's gonna get a
Speaker 1: really good player in that Chris Godwin right there. I
Speaker 1: bet he's still here. Yeah, well, you know, I just
Speaker 1: he is a I go back to those second round
Speaker 1: receivers and they just weren't, you know, they weren't coming
Speaker 1: off the board like I thought. But now you've got
Speaker 1: some value here in the third round. Okay, so uh
Speaker 1: as as we reset h Denver's now on the clock,
Speaker 1: we got Washingtons pick. Yeah, it was moreau Denver's on
Speaker 1: the clock, and then New England will be next. That's
Speaker 1: a pick at eighty three that they got with the
Speaker 1: Tennessee trade, So this will be the first time at
Speaker 1: three eighty three, the Super the finning Super Bowl champs
Speaker 1: will get to make a pick, and then after them
Speaker 1: we'll be uh, Tampa Bay on the clock. So we're
Speaker 1: working our way down the board once again. Dallas picking
Speaker 1: at ninety two, we would be ten picks away with
Speaker 1: the Broncos here picking at eighty two. Broncos have another
Speaker 1: pick coming in this round, one hundred and one overall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Kent was he was excited about the fact that
Speaker 1: the Broncos we're on the and a guy with a
Speaker 1: Broncho head on his hat come on as as a
Speaker 1: very exciting but yeah, that's a just war room again
Speaker 1: from the Ford Center war room cam. Just everybody looking
Speaker 1: very calm right there. Uh you know Stephen Jones, Uh
Speaker 1: look at that yeah, hearts Yeah, he's looking at exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So you keep talking tight end, tight end, let's go
Speaker 1: to the podium and get the deer Broncos picks of
Speaker 1: a common draft to announ seed Broncos selection. Please welcome
Speaker 1: from Missouri Southern State University. Undrafted free agent wide receiver,
Speaker 1: two time Super Bowl champion Rod Smith. Yeah, drafted, I
Speaker 1: know that guy. Yeah, really, I know Rod Smith. Pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft the demo Bronco select
Speaker 1: Carlos Henderson, receiver from Louisiana Tech. Yeah. I mean for
Speaker 1: every pick, but that's a good pick. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: all these players are just we really liked they think
Speaker 1: we think they could be impact players. Carlos Henderson. We
Speaker 1: talked about Tawan Taylor and uh, you know the big
Speaker 1: place he made Carlos Henderson the same type of deal.
Speaker 1: He's almost like a running back when he has the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands because he'll go through you. He's
Speaker 1: a powerful guy, really impressive what he could do deep.
Speaker 1: He's a return man. I know, Jeff, you you really
Speaker 1: liked him. I loved him. I think it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: amazing when you're five foot ten and when your team
Speaker 1: gets to the goal line, you are the fade option.
Speaker 1: Now he's that's not necessarily where he wins. You don't
Speaker 1: necessarily see him come down with all the contested balls.
Speaker 1: But to your point, after the catch, he's if he's
Speaker 1: not the best receiver in this draft, after the catch,
Speaker 1: he's one of them. And it's not because he's d D.
Speaker 1: Westbrook lightning quick gonna make you necessarily miss. It's just
Speaker 1: that a little bit of burst and balance and toughness
Speaker 1: where it's just the first guy doesn't tackle Carlos Henderson.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of Jarvis Landry to him there,
Speaker 1: except that he also ran a four four at the combine.
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite players. I'm not ashamed
Speaker 1: it him is a top thirty player. Tony Roma's gonna
Speaker 1: love him, Carlos Henderson, Sorry, Tony Romans gonna love it
Speaker 1: all right. Jerry Jones has returned to the fourth Center,
Speaker 1: a war room the Patriots, and welcome Build Belichick to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, let's welcome to New England. Patriots. As
Speaker 1: if they need any help with all this stuff they've done.
Speaker 1: Here we are in the third round. This will be
Speaker 1: their first pick. They made a couple of trade backs.
Speaker 1: This is a pick that originally was owned by the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. The Titans took this from the UH. They
Speaker 1: got the the New England got this pick from Carolina,
Speaker 1: and then the pick was sent from New England to
Speaker 1: Tennessee in a trade. So now the UH the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots around the clock. So we welcome him, you know,
Speaker 1: super Bowl defending champ. This to me is about whoever
Speaker 1: the best player on the board is. You know who is?
Speaker 1: Who is? You know whoever your best player on the
Speaker 1: board is. You know I just gave my top five
Speaker 1: and I skipped one state. Yeah, see that's what you've got.
Speaker 1: New England's top need is what as rush? Yeah, pastors,
Speaker 1: Well let's see Patriots, welcome to the draft. Couple defensive
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots selection. Please welcome from the University
Speaker 1: of Iowa two thousand and eight Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: Duckbee linebacker Andre Tippett. Pretty good player in this day
Speaker 1: on Andre Harris fifty five with third pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: sir right, Derek Rivers? Yeah, why do you mention Derek
Speaker 1: Rivers name before there? Just cross that off my player?
Speaker 1: I just know what? How did I just missed him
Speaker 1: on my list, Derek Rivers, And here's the guy I
Speaker 1: keep going back to our mock draft. We had a
Speaker 1: situation at sixty where we passed on Derek Rivers, if
Speaker 1: you remember, and we went uh we went ahead and
Speaker 1: took the safety Williams. But uh uh, talk a little bit, Katie,
Speaker 1: get a little bit on, a little bit on Derek. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Derrek Rivers is a guy who I think I believe
Speaker 1: in my list was my forty first best player in
Speaker 1: my time. We can all agree, was not the eighty
Speaker 1: third best players, not the eighty third best player. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe what was scaring people you mentioned earlier.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was, you know, the way he plays against
Speaker 1: the run. Was it the small school I aspect at
Speaker 1: Youngstown State. He's got the bend and the link that
Speaker 1: you kind of want. Sixty three and a half two
Speaker 1: fifty three, Cone was under seven. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes he would play you kind of they'd
Speaker 1: have him two gaping, which made it kind of hard
Speaker 1: to evaluate. But for me, you could see a guy
Speaker 1: who get the corner every once in a while, and
Speaker 1: you could see the intrigue that teams would have with him.
Speaker 1: Look at it. I don't know if he was some
Speaker 1: guy that's stepping in and getting you know, ten to
Speaker 1: twelve sacks for you, But I saw a really good,
Speaker 1: you know, right defensive end here. And he's the guy
Speaker 1: who was hoping would be there at ninety two. Just
Speaker 1: in case, well, bet Tampa Bay now on the clock.
Speaker 1: This is pick eighty four, getting close to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: six away. Please welcome from UCLA linebacker Ryan Neasy. God
Speaker 1: bless what the eighty fourth pick in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers proudly select Chris Godwin.
Speaker 1: Wh so pumped, Holy cow So Tampa Bay is now
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson, Mike Evans, Godwin, O J Howard, Yeah, Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston Yeah, Okay yeah, big dudes, Wow, figure it out.
Speaker 1: Godwin is the best. He's the best. Stop me. If
Speaker 1: you've heard this before, He's the best contested ball catcher
Speaker 1: in this class, at least according to the numbers that
Speaker 1: prey Mike Williams over him in a contested ball situation.
Speaker 1: But a guy that just comes down with it when
Speaker 1: guys are in his real estate and Mike Evans is
Speaker 1: already on the team, and Deshaun Jackson is already the
Speaker 1: deep threat and O. J. Howard is at tight end.
Speaker 1: How are you going to cover Tampa Bay? That's what
Speaker 1: you love about Chrissy Godwin is his ability to expand
Speaker 1: his catch radius and make the plays that a lot
Speaker 1: of receivers can't make with that length, his ability to
Speaker 1: high point and he has that late separation deep in
Speaker 1: his route. A lot to like about Godwin. And then
Speaker 1: he goes out and runs a four four at the combine.
Speaker 1: I don't think we expected that. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody expected him to run because you didn't always see
Speaker 1: a four or four. You said about you said about
Speaker 1: the contested catches. He kind of felt like, is this
Speaker 1: guy slow? You know? Is he is? He? Because he
Speaker 1: didn't really separate it exactly, but so he maybe as well.
Speaker 1: Those guys said trained really well, like melofon Wu trained
Speaker 1: well for the combine, got his speed down and people
Speaker 1: are thinking this guy really fest But hey, you gotta
Speaker 1: have you know, the fact the kids playing in a
Speaker 1: warm weather city, high catch radius, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that he played at Penn State too. You know,
Speaker 1: those are the tough deals, man. Those guys have to
Speaker 1: play in cold weather and it'd be productive. And he's
Speaker 1: that guy. Did y'all did you even I might have
Speaker 1: missed it? Did you even throw Doug Martin in there?
Speaker 1: The fact that he's coming back? No, No, that's okay. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about running ball right now. I'm just saying, no,
Speaker 1: we don't have carries, we're not running the ball. That
Speaker 1: offense is scary. Yeah, we even spending the first three games.
Speaker 1: But hopefully you know he's got the off the field
Speaker 1: straightened out. And if he does when he comes back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at that offense, that run game, and and Oj Howard
Speaker 1: is not just a receiver, right, he can block. And
Speaker 1: Doug Martin is going to be seeing the lightest boxes
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Hey, Yeah, if you put all of
Speaker 1: those weapons on the field together, you got Oj at
Speaker 1: your tight end spot, you got de Seawan in the slot,
Speaker 1: you got Mike Evans and Godwin outside. We're going three
Speaker 1: wide receiver set. You can run the ball in Atlanta
Speaker 1: is going. I got tack and Vic Beasley. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get some pressure on who's who's happier right now,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton herd uh jamis went they're both pretty excited.
Speaker 1: They both Yeah, they both have to be really excited
Speaker 1: about the situation there for sure. Let's say so Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin snagging lapt he goes to Tampa Bay this, uh,
Speaker 1: New England is on the clock at pick eighty five,
Speaker 1: traded back in the Yeah, they like picking players, they
Speaker 1: like they like picking players, so they this is a
Speaker 1: pick that originated in Detroit. So, uh, there's a connection
Speaker 1: right dame between the Detroit GM and UH and the
Speaker 1: New England Patriot. Write where Bob Quinn came from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he rose through the ranks and became a gmcam in
Speaker 1: it and the Lions got them and yeah, it's uh, look,
Speaker 1: it's something that I think we've seen these these two
Speaker 1: teams make deals before. They did it last year. Might
Speaker 1: make an annual tradition, just do it every year with yeah,
Speaker 1: it just absolutely just find a way to to kind
Speaker 1: of Okay, what can I do to help you there? Right?
Speaker 1: You know, I know you don't need any help, but
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you give me some help? Don't
Speaker 1: you say? Well, hey, and we didn't talk about the
Speaker 1: Patriots for yeah, you know the first eighties. Some picks
Speaker 1: and here we go We're gonna talk about them quite
Speaker 1: a bit here in the late second or third. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just funny how how how good this
Speaker 1: team already is and how good they're gonna get with
Speaker 1: a player like Derek Rivers and whoever they take here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: secondary offensive line I'm going off of I'm going off
Speaker 1: of my guide from the great Dane Brugler here. But
Speaker 1: we team needs. Yeah, we got a couple of needs
Speaker 1: lined up here for the Patriots. You got cornerbacks, you
Speaker 1: got offensive tackle, you got center, you got tight end.
Speaker 1: What do the board? What's your board look like for
Speaker 1: those positions? I need to stay away from our cornerbacks here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. That would be great. Tankerslely still out there,
Speaker 1: and stay away from Tankersley and stay away from Corn
Speaker 1: Elder and Jordan Lewis. What were the other needs you said?
Speaker 1: Offensive line? Yeah, a couple offensive line needs. We got
Speaker 1: offensive tackle here, I'm reading from Dane's notes for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: left tackle Solder is in a contract year. They got
Speaker 1: nobody really there to replace him. So that's where we are. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: who do you who do you have? Who do you have? Though?
Speaker 1: At do you have any tackles left. I mean when
Speaker 1: the top tackles for me at Boden was the guy
Speaker 1: who was like the top guy right, Antonio Garcia, Roderick Johnson,
Speaker 1: Julian Davenport, Will Holden. I mean these are players that
Speaker 1: Antonio Garcia. This is right the range. I could see
Speaker 1: him going off the board. Let's see that's where at
Speaker 1: the podium. Pick eighty five, He's welcome from UCLA wide
Speaker 1: receiver Matthew Slater. With the eighty fifth pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, New England Patriots select
Speaker 1: Antonio Garcia. There you go. Tackle from Troy makes sense. Yep, Kat,
Speaker 1: I'll go back to you on Antonio Garcia. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: hold on, get the notes up all right, find all
Speaker 1: the notes here. Let's see. Only one guy can be
Speaker 1: an encyclopedia. Some of us have to hit control F
Speaker 1: and then go fight the guy and look at his notes. Well,
Speaker 1: aspire to be more like Dane Jeff. Everybody does Dave.
Speaker 1: But if we all did it, then what would Dane do?
Speaker 1: He wouldn't need me anymore. Long arms, kind of thin
Speaker 1: guy six six um needs to be a little stronger. Yep,
Speaker 1: even kind of lunging quite a bit as well. Uh
Speaker 1: you could see him trying to play with his hands
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he has he was super gravvy.
Speaker 1: Uh those are my notes there. I thought maybe yeah, maybe, yeah,
Speaker 1: got a whole lot of good stuff to say. What
Speaker 1: about that though, Dane? I mean, is he's light? Nate
Speaker 1: Solder though, didn't he with a tall thin Remember when
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier came out of Colorado? Right, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: like Yeah, we didn't think, oh he's not a place
Speaker 1: with any power, right. This guy's an athletic guy. He is.
Speaker 1: He moves very well and you saw that the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl U. But he will get beat at times. A
Speaker 1: little mechanical in his kickslide. Yeah, needs to get stronger,
Speaker 1: needs to get especially his bass, so he can, you know,
Speaker 1: put up with some bull rushers and Chiefs are coming
Speaker 1: to the podium. Yeah, let's see the Chiefs. So we
Speaker 1: were talking about Garcia. He went to the Newingham Patriots
Speaker 1: eighty five pick eighty six. Is Kansas City's you having?
Speaker 1: Nebraska two thousand and fifteen Hall of Fame and ductee
Speaker 1: guard Will Shield. That's a man that's a good player.
Speaker 1: I remember, he's a good one. Yeah, you know he
Speaker 1: was real six pick in the two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Kareem Hunt runner runner.
Speaker 1: That Spencer wareld like that kind of makes sense some
Speaker 1: Tarik Hill. Yeah, like a Chiefs I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jeff Kavanaugh here. Oh we're going
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. Notes, I control left it, I'm on you here,
Speaker 1: here we go. I got good week at the Senior Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Stone and linebackers and one on ones. Good lateral ability
Speaker 1: to squeeze into holes. Decisive when he hits a hole.
Speaker 1: You can see ankle flexibility and balance. Able to adjust
Speaker 1: his running lane without losing speed, wiggle in the open field,
Speaker 1: kind of burrows through small holes. They run out of
Speaker 1: the shotgun. You see him able to spin out of
Speaker 1: leg tackles, keep that balance, smooth changer of direction and
Speaker 1: a jab step. Good feel for cutback lanes. Patient and decisive.
Speaker 1: That's notes of a runner you like. Can I just
Speaker 1: give my favorite note about cream Hunt? Sure, he touched
Speaker 1: the ball eight hundred and fifty six times in college.
Speaker 1: He fumbled once oo once and he recovered it again.
Speaker 1: It was as a freshman cole Weather. Cole Weather League guys,
Speaker 1: I probably got this note from you. Then forty one catches,
Speaker 1: no drops or was that maybe I did find that
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Oh, I had forty one catches and he
Speaker 1: never dropped a pass. Very productive. He's West Toledo's all
Speaker 1: time leading rusher. I think he's number three in Mac
Speaker 1: history in terms of rushing yards productive. Over his career,
Speaker 1: he averaged six point three yards per carry. I'd love
Speaker 1: the pick at this point. He's a complete back. Where
Speaker 1: did you go? I've lost myself? Yea, where did you go?
Speaker 1: Kansas City? The only the only back I had in
Speaker 1: front of him on my ranking, so my JP Ryan, Um,
Speaker 1: but I mean this is right where I thought Hunt
Speaker 1: should go. I've had a third round grade on him.
Speaker 1: This is this is good value. So am I crazy
Speaker 1: for thinking he? I mean being pushed where for that spot? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can do everything he can block, he can he
Speaker 1: can catch him out the backfield. He doesn't really have
Speaker 1: a weakness now he doesn't. We got a giant Gants
Speaker 1: on the Giants at the podium. Be an interesting pick
Speaker 1: to announce the New York Giants selection. Please welcome from
Speaker 1: the U linebacker Jesse Armsteady, Dallas Carter High School. Oh,
Speaker 1: I actually I got I got Jesse, no doubt, World
Speaker 1: Champion New York Charts. Oh. He took a page at
Speaker 1: the two seventeen drop to New York Football World Champions
Speaker 1: like David Well quarterback California, Davis Webb. He said, David Webb,
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. It's okay. It's a third round.
Speaker 1: You're picking a quarterback, which means you're not expecting a
Speaker 1: lot out of him. It's the fourth round where you
Speaker 1: find the great quarterback. I'm so relieved that this guy
Speaker 1: went at a more reasonable like this is where he
Speaker 1: should go. I was just about to say that I
Speaker 1: had a fourth round grade on him. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is late third is where he should have gone. Uh
Speaker 1: talking there was talking about first round, talking about top
Speaker 1: fifty early in the second round. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: glad he went more towards what his value should be.
Speaker 1: And this is a player that succeeded. Uh. Jared goff Right,
Speaker 1: you know, came in and you know the same type
Speaker 1: of issues. You know, a lot of one read routes. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have to read coverage but when
Speaker 1: you look at the physical trade, a tall athletic kid,
Speaker 1: very big arm, and then you really like the football character.
Speaker 1: He's a junkie. He's gonna come in and you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the film room. You know he's
Speaker 1: not going to be out worked. So if Davis's Webb
Speaker 1: does not make it at the NFL level, it won't
Speaker 1: be because of lack of effort or lack of it.
Speaker 1: Just you're wanting to be the best. So you know
Speaker 1: from the Giants, this is a projection pick. This is
Speaker 1: something that down the road and he goes to a
Speaker 1: good situation, he's not going to have to see the
Speaker 1: field for the next two years. We got we got
Speaker 1: coaches in the Ford Center war room, gentlemen, we got
Speaker 1: rod Manonelli's back for a third trip. Is anybody surprised,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all with what's on this board? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: the Giants just made the pick there, that's at three
Speaker 1: eighty seven. They take Davis Webb, that puts the Raiders
Speaker 1: on the clock. Picks in at eighty eight. After the
Speaker 1: Raiders come the Houston Texans as again, the Ford Center
Speaker 1: war room cam at the we will get when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get on the clock there below you below clock
Speaker 1: you below you blow, you blow. It's just it's two syllables,
Speaker 1: blow blow, do you blow? Clock? Right? Can we take
Speaker 1: this opportunity? Guy? I mean, we're we still got a few,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of rounding into shape of what's gonna
Speaker 1: be there? What are we thinking? What are y'all looking at? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think you go back to the Cowboys visit list.
Speaker 1: I believe on the cornerback list, I see two guys
Speaker 1: standing and one of them, obviously I'm much higher on
Speaker 1: because I've been talking about him for about fifty picks now.
Speaker 1: Cordrea Tankersley, the cornerback out of Clemson, is still on
Speaker 1: the board. Shaquille Griffin, who I think we all like
Speaker 1: at a Central Florida that corner is another guy that's
Speaker 1: on that list, A safety. We love Xavier Woods. They're
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech. So for me, I look at those three,
Speaker 1: maybe you throw in Jake Butt and I know he
Speaker 1: wasn't a visit, but for us, we're gonna throw in
Speaker 1: Desmond King. Yeah. I think those five names, I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear one of those five called Yeah. Everything he
Speaker 1: said is I think he just nailed it. Maybe I
Speaker 1: miss I'm not crazy, right, Carl Lawson is still available?
Speaker 1: Still no, no, are you if I got to make
Speaker 1: the pick? And that's I don't think that they would
Speaker 1: do this. But are we in a situation where he
Speaker 1: has fallen so far that they say, okay, I just
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't they don't like his measurable I
Speaker 1: just looking at Mattieberflus, he's down there, he's the really
Speaker 1: the passing game coordinator, whatever the hell that they're they're
Speaker 1: really they're grooming him to be the defensive coordina. I
Speaker 1: think that's I think. And so he's in there right now,
Speaker 1: and I guarantee he's talking about he's talking about another city.
Speaker 1: He's probably talking about a safety. I would think that
Speaker 1: they're probably talking about one of those safeties that they
Speaker 1: brought in. Is it as I was gonna say, Is
Speaker 1: it as easy as saying, these are the guys we
Speaker 1: brought in? Or did they expect You're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out if it's okay? Do you go tankers Lely or
Speaker 1: do you go? Uh? Do you go? Griffin is another
Speaker 1: guy that they brought in. Man, we need to keep
Speaker 1: Tedrick Thompson in there too. It is a visit. I
Speaker 1: mean that's a little bit, a little bit of a reach,
Speaker 1: I would say, but we need to keep him in
Speaker 1: mind out. Yeah, now, tedder Thompson was a guy. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's the guy that was telling me more we did
Speaker 1: do it? Tell me more on we weren't. We weren't
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I'm just staring him out there because
Speaker 1: he was on the visit list. Yeah, no, absolutely so.
Speaker 1: Uh it's again it's defensive players. I mean, the offensive
Speaker 1: coaches are in their offices putting the golf ball on
Speaker 1: the rug and so, uh, I guess. And maybe Carl
Speaker 1: Lawson is not the greatest example because he probably doesn't
Speaker 1: fit their physical limitations for what they're looking for. But
Speaker 1: you know, we use this thirty visit list as such
Speaker 1: a guide post and it has obviously served us very well.
Speaker 1: That's they like to draft guys that they get to meet.
Speaker 1: But let's say in the case of a Desmond King, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they never thought he would be here at night?
Speaker 1: Has he fallen far enough? Are we to the point
Speaker 1: where maybe you take a guy that you didn't have
Speaker 1: on a visit because you never thought he'd be there?
Speaker 1: He's tough. I mean, that's I would not have ab
Speaker 1: I would have had him on the thirty visit list myself, Jake,
Speaker 1: but extent like, yeah, he's in that conversation too. I
Speaker 1: think that takes Jake Budd out of them. What you're
Speaker 1: talking about there, I don't see anybody. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, there's no offense. I mean, I haven't looked
Speaker 1: over Jim Mauer. The he's over. He would be over
Speaker 1: to the right of Jerry Jones. I guess my main
Speaker 1: thing I wonder is, you know, how strictly do you
Speaker 1: stick to that thirty visit list? I mean, are you
Speaker 1: always the draft a guy that's on it, but it's
Speaker 1: a player that you know. And Jason Garrett talked about
Speaker 1: asking the question about those faces they love, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: love having them in the building. There's no doubt about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean all I think every single one of their
Speaker 1: premium picks over the last three or four years has
Speaker 1: been a thirty visitor. Yeah. Okay, So let's see here
Speaker 1: the h blow clock. The Cowboys like say, the Raiders
Speaker 1: have made the Raiders are their pick. We're waiting on
Speaker 1: their pick. They're at eighty eight. The Cowboys are still
Speaker 1: at ninety two, so we're we're waiting on that a
Speaker 1: lot of again. The you Blow clock. I love that
Speaker 1: you blow. You blow the Watch company beautiful watches by
Speaker 1: the way, My gosh, they brought them all into the
Speaker 1: on the phone now. So he's on the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's on the phone. So here's the Raiders pick at
Speaker 1: eighty eight. We got we got some delover. It's fine.
Speaker 1: You did on me for the second time. Hey, Reggie Jack,
Speaker 1: good job baby. Pick In two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Oak Clown Raiders seleg Eddie Venados defensive tacker UCLA
Speaker 1: tough guy. Man. He's a tough guy. He's not one
Speaker 1: of these guys too that plays. He's just like a
Speaker 1: slugger inside guy. He's got some uh, he's got some
Speaker 1: ability to play outside the box, chase down the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Got some strength to him as well. So
Speaker 1: Raiders take Eddie Vanderdoo's as their guy. Okay, activity in
Speaker 1: the Cowboy war room. Jerry Jones is on the phone.
Speaker 1: We got some delay where it pick number ninety which
Speaker 1: is Seattle. Actually pick eighty nine, which is Houston. So
Speaker 1: again all kinds of uh two different things going on
Speaker 1: here with Jason Garrett. He's now talking to the players. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see in fact who in fact the Cowboys uh
Speaker 1: do select? Uh? It right? So who do you think
Speaker 1: the pick's gonna be? I mean, before you know, we
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Yeah, Xavier would Davier was his name, Ikey
Speaker 1: coming back to him? Yeah, I like, actually too many corners.
Speaker 1: If Scandrick's still here, unless they really I'll take him
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm that much higher on them than as
Speaker 1: it are left. So I'm gonna say tankers Lee even
Speaker 1: though I know that makes a real crowded corner room.
Speaker 1: It sets me up pretty darn good for the next
Speaker 1: five years. Really is bad thing. No, No, not a
Speaker 1: corner I just need corners. I'm not the scout. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that tankers Lee is like what they
Speaker 1: want to do. I just have agree with that. I agree,
Speaker 1: but I just think he's a good enough player that
Speaker 1: and he we keep talking about tankers lely on the
Speaker 1: visit and it just doesn't seem like they're going from
Speaker 1: that direction. Here's the Texans selection at eighty nine. Linebacker
Speaker 1: Bryant Cushing with the eighty nine pick. In twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Houston Texans select Deonta Foreman, running back. All right,
Speaker 1: Deontay Foreman, got a little bit of a question, a
Speaker 1: medical question the Longhorns. Yeah, hey hook them, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little medical question. Let's kind of restacked the board here. Okay,
Speaker 1: my top three players right now. Chad Hanson the wide
Speaker 1: receiver from Cal Carl Lawson, and there's Jordan Lewis, the
Speaker 1: corner from Michigan. A corner we haven't talked about. We
Speaker 1: mentioned all these corners, uh Tankerously, we haven't mentioned Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Joe bast We got our corner coach in here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the corners. Do we have a handle on
Speaker 1: what's going on with Jordan Lewis's divestic violence? We don't sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they might. Yeah, and that's kind of that's where
Speaker 1: we are. Same thing, you know, the Gary on Connley situation.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the teams know, but if he's
Speaker 1: in consideration with this pick, then you would hope they know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well absolutely, and actually you know what that you know,
Speaker 1: even before all that this that makes me think back
Speaker 1: to UH as far back as the Senior Bowl, Dan
Speaker 1: because I remember you talking about I love Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: Not only did you love him, but I just remember
Speaker 1: how big it was. You said, what he weighed in
Speaker 1: at the arm length arth and his height too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he hit certain thresholds. Yeah, you want to
Speaker 1: see you know, and we know that's important to the cowboys,
Speaker 1: right exactly. You wanted to see over thirty one inch arms.
Speaker 1: You wanted to see him get over the five ten mark,
Speaker 1: and he did those things. Uh, you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: a player that you watch him, you don't see separation.
Speaker 1: So if you can get past the size, there's a
Speaker 1: lot to like about him here. So okay, so the Seattle, okay,
Speaker 1: the the pick for the We got the Texans with
Speaker 1: eighty nine. That was deanti Foreman. Seattle is on the clock.
Speaker 1: Their picks in right there. It looks like they haven't
Speaker 1: announced it. That tick's gonna come up in just a minute.
Speaker 1: But uh, we we we've seen we've seen Joe Baker
Speaker 1: in the room. We've seen those guys uh all uh,
Speaker 1: we've seen them high fives all around stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So uh it would be uh, I think would be
Speaker 1: shocked if it's not anybody other than a cornerback here,
Speaker 1: which we've handicapped what we thought the cornerbacks were gonna be.
Speaker 1: I mean Orlando Scandrick. Well, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: means for Orlando Scandrick, but what I'm thinking is, you know,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we talk about that corner position
Speaker 1: and and you know, oh, no, what are they gonna
Speaker 1: do in the long term? We had they don't have
Speaker 1: enough guys all of a sudden looks kind of stocked.
Speaker 1: You got Anthony Brown here, you got already drafted Chitta
Speaker 1: a woozy a. Now you're probably drafting another cornerback no one.
Speaker 1: Carroll's on a three year deal, and all of I mean,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got a pretty crowded room.
Speaker 1: I crowded young room for that matter. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about a turn around. Yeah, the uh I mentioned Seattle.
Speaker 1: Like I say, we're at a commercial break right now
Speaker 1: with Seattle, Dallas has made their pick. TV's just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of picks behind right now, so
Speaker 1: hopefully we will catch up. But we've we've talked about
Speaker 1: a bunch of different players, a bunch of cornerbacks, potential cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, we'll uh, we'll see it if
Speaker 1: in fact, Dan, you you think it, you think it
Speaker 1: is Jordan Lewis. I think that'd be a home run pick.
Speaker 1: We talk about the top corners available. He is the
Speaker 1: top corner available. He's number forty five on my board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get the forty fifth best player in this draft.
Speaker 1: According and just in my opinion, right at you know
Speaker 1: this late in the draft, Oh my gosh, absolutely time
Speaker 1: you're talking about the height. What give me the arm?
Speaker 1: Lengked on on thirty one and five at one and
Speaker 1: then you hit the threshold for height. He was five
Speaker 1: ten and a quarter, right you want to see you know,
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't mean much or it seemed much,
Speaker 1: but if he was under five ten, worries you a
Speaker 1: little bit. Got over five ten, has the arm that
Speaker 1: you want, and what he can do in the I
Speaker 1: mean it would talk about a woozier. What he could
Speaker 1: do in the nickel Jordan Lewis, he's the ideal nickelback. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought he deserved first round consideration before the recent arrest.
Speaker 1: Well let's see if they in fact go to ann
Speaker 1: Arbor once again. I mean, we're we're a couple of
Speaker 1: picks away again. TV is behind. We're trying to honor
Speaker 1: what they're we're doing. But the Cowboys, if you look
Speaker 1: at the in the Ford Center war room, Uh, they've
Speaker 1: they've made their pick. They've been on the phone and
Speaker 1: uh and uh so here we go with the Uh.
Speaker 1: As I look at the board the Rams, the Rams
Speaker 1: have taken, it looks like John Johnson, the safety from
Speaker 1: Boston College, he would be at pick ninety one. Uh
Speaker 1: so Dallas now would be on that clock. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see if they make the announcement right here. Uh, Seattle,
Speaker 1: somebody grabbed the Seattle it was actually it was shaq
Speaker 1: Griffin from from Central Florida. Okay, Shaquille Griffin then at
Speaker 1: ninety goes to Seattle. Very talented cornerback Central Florida, like
Speaker 1: the size us over six foot, very quick. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a one of those guys that we talked about,
Speaker 1: these guys that played plays better when he plays on
Speaker 1: as opposed to off coverage. So uh, we'll see how
Speaker 1: he works out. But he is with the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 1: very talented defense as we all know. So the Rams
Speaker 1: picks came in too on the TV at Rams picking
Speaker 1: at ninety one, right, and that's Jack say John Johnson
Speaker 1: from Boston College right there, so uh, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of I thought a little bit early right there, don't you,
Speaker 1: Dane with John Johnson going at ninety one from Boston College. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a fourth round grade on him, so you
Speaker 1: know I got him a fifth Yeah, corner safety, I
Speaker 1: think he has that position flex Uh you know, he's uh,
Speaker 1: he played, he started at safety, went to corner. I
Speaker 1: think he showed that he could do both decent size,
Speaker 1: decent at wanted to see them make more plays and coverage.
Speaker 1: I see that enough. But you know, at this point,
Speaker 1: I think we all agree they're Xavier Woods some better
Speaker 1: players out there, but not too much of a reach.
Speaker 1: But I think we agree they're better players out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: well they the TV now is caught up, Dallas's pick
Speaker 1: is in, and I don't know if they're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the podium or not. Maybe Drew Pearson will taunt
Speaker 1: everybody again in Philadelphia. That was that was it? More
Speaker 1: of that I was encouraging. Wwey was great, so h
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson is, well, we don't know, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: So so we'll see if if, if in fact, uh,
Speaker 1: let's see Brady Jay. Okay, Brad Sham just walked in
Speaker 1: and wrote, Brady James. Goat Brad Sham, so U he
Speaker 1: knew exactly. I knew somebody was gonna make the pick.
Speaker 1: So let's see. They're they're interviewing a foreman right now
Speaker 1: on on the NFL network, so they've yet to announced
Speaker 1: the pick. They're holding it right now. We think we
Speaker 1: think it is Jordan Lewis, the cornerback from Michigan. Waiting
Speaker 1: for the official word right there, but we'll see if Okay,
Speaker 1: interesting story though about form it and you know herd ground, Yeah,
Speaker 1: heartbreaking story. But yeah, he's got a he's got some
Speaker 1: there's concerned medically with him. He's got a situation in
Speaker 1: his foot that's it's a stress fracture and they asked
Speaker 1: him if the rechecks, if he would like to get
Speaker 1: it fixed, and he said no, he did not want
Speaker 1: to give it fixed. So, uh, you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: if in fact that's something that he has to Obviously
Speaker 1: he'll have to deal with it, but he stays in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas and then he will then he
Speaker 1: will get an oportunity there with the Houston Texans, but
Speaker 1: eventually could have to have that foot fixed. So we're
Speaker 1: still all right, here we go, Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: But we thought all along, three defensive players, right, that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get. Yeah. Uh, And we knew this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a defensive back heavy day two for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We thought maybe corner safety, but I don't
Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise anybody if they go corner corner, it doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me. But assuming assuming this is a corner, the
Speaker 1: main thing that I keep thinking of is in my end.
Speaker 1: Obviously they can still draft a safety, but this feels
Speaker 1: like a big vote of confidence in Jeff Heath and
Speaker 1: Cavon Frazier or or even just to the depth of
Speaker 1: the safety class here. That's fair, as we've talked about
Speaker 1: Desmond King who. But I get the reason why I
Speaker 1: say is that it's a vote of confidence for the
Speaker 1: guys that are already here. Is because you, I mean,
Speaker 1: you had guys that you like here at safety. You
Speaker 1: had I mean, Xavier Woods could be yours if you
Speaker 1: want them, and you said, nah, we'd rather, we'd rather
Speaker 1: get another corner and worry about safety later, which I
Speaker 1: don't know that Xavier Woods will be there when you
Speaker 1: pick tomorrow mornings. And if he's not, I think when
Speaker 1: you talk about this class and maybe Dane or Brian,
Speaker 1: you guys have even more names. But we watched Michigan
Speaker 1: and the kid Delano Hill like him, Ray Shawn Jenkins Miami.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a strong safety type, I think
Speaker 1: on day three you can still get him. Yeah, that Drew.
Speaker 1: Here we go, James, good to see it. Drew. Here,
Speaker 1: Here we go through, as brat Champs said, Brady James
Speaker 1: dope dope suit. Brady James with the ninety With the
Speaker 1: ninety second pick of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, America's team picks Jordan Lewis dB Michigan. Here
Speaker 1: you go, all right, Jordan Lewis, Look, this is this
Speaker 1: is something we do have to talk about. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: will remember when I said I wanted him to take
Speaker 1: a risk on talent with their third pick, he was
Speaker 1: arrested him. He didn't say that rested him. The story
Speaker 1: go ahead. Dank a domestic violence incident with his twenty
Speaker 1: year old girlfriend. Um and it's something that we really
Speaker 1: haven't received an update in terms of the public but
Speaker 1: you can you know these teams have done the homework,
Speaker 1: they know what's going on. You know, this isn't as
Speaker 1: bad as the Gary and Colley situation, but it's still
Speaker 1: something where we don't know all the details, but you
Speaker 1: hope the Cowboys have and it'll be interesting to see,
Speaker 1: you know how what else comes out with this Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis pick. Because on the field, I think it's a
Speaker 1: home run. I love this pick, but the details of
Speaker 1: what happened with the March arrest, it's it's really going
Speaker 1: to cause a lot of questions. So what is it?
Speaker 1: What do you think this means for? You know, you've
Speaker 1: already taken a Woozier and an earlier round who we
Speaker 1: feel is kind of best in the slot. Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal cover guy, Yeah, but also probably the
Speaker 1: slot because of his size. Does that mean a Woozier
Speaker 1: Maybe we're looking at on the outside and this makes
Speaker 1: the room very crowded, so the scandric room or out
Speaker 1: anticipate here and him moved almost no matter what it's for,
Speaker 1: I think so at some point, yeah, you look at
Speaker 1: what this team has done the last two years rebuilding
Speaker 1: the corner depth chart Anthony Brown a Woozier now Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: They just rebuilt the corner position in three and I'm,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking back to our mock draft on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: I think it was you know, you've revamped the secondary
Speaker 1: in two picks with Marcus Williams and um a Dory Jackson.
Speaker 1: Obviously that's not who they got, but like I said,
Speaker 1: all I mean your cornerback, after all of that complaining
Speaker 1: and gnashing of teeth, you're completely turned your cornerback depth
Speaker 1: chart over to the point where, yeah, maybe they don't
Speaker 1: need Orlando Scandrick and I don't know what you could
Speaker 1: get for him, but you can have a conversation about
Speaker 1: moving a guy now, which is mind boggling compared to
Speaker 1: where they were yesterday. Yeah, and we know guys get
Speaker 1: hurt and Skeandrick is one of those guys coming off
Speaker 1: the injury Dad leg he started to get with that.
Speaker 1: Now you got five corners though, that you feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about with no one Carroll added to the mix
Speaker 1: as well. Packers making the pick. Yeah ninety three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're they've got true Pearson joined delection. It might
Speaker 1: be skipping the US Adams. Yeah, there's yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: They're they're putting montrevious Adams the defensive tackle deep than
Speaker 1: for Auburn. And what I love most about these two
Speaker 1: corners that the Cowboys have drafted, a Woozier and Lewis,
Speaker 1: they play with attitude. These are competitive guys. Uh they
Speaker 1: they take it offense if someone throws in their direction,
Speaker 1: they do not want to give up a catch, so
Speaker 1: they play tight coverage, they compete at the catch point.
Speaker 1: I just love the attitude that these two guys bring
Speaker 1: to not only the meeting room in practice, but then
Speaker 1: on game day. And one of my notes in there
Speaker 1: on Jordan Lewis is despite the size, he's willing to hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah. And I think that matters to this
Speaker 1: coaching staff as you're looking for corners that are willing
Speaker 1: to hit, and you've got two guys that are, I
Speaker 1: will say, and I mean, like, obviously it's similar to
Speaker 1: the Conley thing. You assume they've got a pretty good
Speaker 1: handle on all the off the field stuff. If they're
Speaker 1: going to spend a draft pick on him, I will say,
Speaker 1: for me personally, it puts a damper on the pick
Speaker 1: for me a little bit. Just you don't want that
Speaker 1: hanging over a premium pick that you're spending. You just
Speaker 1: don't you don't want it, and you know even that
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's he didn't do anything wrong. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to pretend know the situation, but I would you know,
Speaker 1: Garrett loves to rave about right kind of guy. I
Speaker 1: would much prefer to have just a completely clean prospect
Speaker 1: that you don't have to have these types of conversations about. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm sure there's plenty of
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans who would prefer to be drafting a guy
Speaker 1: that doesn't have domestic violence allegations hanging over him. But again,
Speaker 1: you know, for the time being, until we get more answers,
Speaker 1: I have to assume that they're satisfied. You know, it's
Speaker 1: similar to the Ezekiel Elliott situation. You know this repeatedly,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have said that they're satisfied that that's not
Speaker 1: something they're worried about. If they're going to spend a
Speaker 1: draft pick on this kid, I assume that they've got
Speaker 1: some answers that we don't. Two questions that I hope
Speaker 1: would be the first two questions asked to Jerry in
Speaker 1: the crew after this U versus Budge orin Lewis and
Speaker 1: the arrest. What's going on there? What do they know? What?
Speaker 1: What do they feel about who? You know, who he
Speaker 1: is as a person. And two, would they consider playing
Speaker 1: woozy as safety? As a free safety? It's where you
Speaker 1: play some of that in college. Maybe they see him
Speaker 1: he playing that position some h Do they see him
Speaker 1: strictly as a corner? Do they see him as a
Speaker 1: guy like Byron Jones who could do a little bit
Speaker 1: of both? You know what was there? We know Joran
Speaker 1: Lewis as a corner and he's best in as a nickel,
Speaker 1: but a woozier with that versatility and you know, oh,
Speaker 1: you can see the Colorado tape where he does play
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. I asked him when
Speaker 1: we talked to him at he said, I'm a bawler,
Speaker 1: That's who I am. So, you know, I wonder how
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys evaluation of him was. Do they see
Speaker 1: him maybe filling in at safety a little bit more
Speaker 1: so than just corner. Pittsburgh is at ninety four. They
Speaker 1: made their selection and it looks like that it's Cameron Sutton.
Speaker 1: Cameron Sutton Senior Bowl. Yeah, Cameron Sutton is the pick there.
Speaker 1: That's pick ninety four with the Steelers. Pick ninety five
Speaker 1: belongs to the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, this is a pick
Speaker 1: that they got from the Atlanta Falcons. So before, like
Speaker 1: I said, let's just reset h Montravius Alan, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Adams on Trevius Adams defensive in defensive tackle Auburn. He
Speaker 1: goes to Green Bay, Cameron Sutton, the cornerback from Tennessee
Speaker 1: who I think could probably play safety. He it goes
Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And now with pick number ninety five,
Speaker 1: that would be the Seattle Seahawks, and they have selected
Speaker 1: Delano Hill from Michigan. So Michigan players flying off the board. Uh.
Speaker 1: Here in the last he was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: fallback for me. In the fourth, he wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: go yet, real real quick, the best safety at Michigan.
Speaker 1: I know, wow, I know, I know you touched on
Speaker 1: this thing, But real quick, where do you where would
Speaker 1: you have had Jordan Lewis going if not for the
Speaker 1: off field stuff? Uh? Still, I mean I'm a forty
Speaker 1: five overall. I think I kept him there just because
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react to the news. Um
Speaker 1: as soon as he in the news came out, you know,
Speaker 1: he tweeted how he didn't you know, people are trying
Speaker 1: to drag them down and this and that. So I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to treat the situation. I didn't have
Speaker 1: enough details. So I kept them at forty five overall
Speaker 1: as my eighth best corner. And it's funny, I had
Speaker 1: a Wooziers my sixth best corner. Kevin King is my
Speaker 1: seventh best corner, and then Lewis is my eighth best corner.
Speaker 1: So I kept them at forty five despite the incident.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, So the Detroit Lions are on the
Speaker 1: clock right now. This is a pick that they got
Speaker 1: from the New England Patriots. This is pick number ninety six,
Speaker 1: and so we're getting close to being into the compensatory round.
Speaker 1: But we remember now you can trade these compensatory picks.
Speaker 1: So instead of it used to be hey, let's you know,
Speaker 1: go to the men's room and don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Now you have the ability to move these picks along
Speaker 1: if you want. So once we get past this pick
Speaker 1: at number ninety six, four, the Lions then and it
Speaker 1: looks like they made the selection of uh Dane A
Speaker 1: player you like from Northern Illinois. Player you had me
Speaker 1: watch him. Kenny Galladay from Northern Illinois wide receiver, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite wide receivers. I thought I could get
Speaker 1: him in the fourth, but credit to Alliance, they didn't
Speaker 1: wait to the fourth. They took him here in the third.
Speaker 1: Uh FCS transfer said, you know what, I'm better than this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna transfer up. He dominated the Mac the last
Speaker 1: two years over a thousand yards. Big guy, six to four, lanky,
Speaker 1: but you'd see him on jet sweeps. You'd see him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny to watch him do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they let him a little bit of everything. They played
Speaker 1: him like he was. They play him like he's a
Speaker 1: little guy. Yeah, but actually he's this big lanky yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly like you kind of like all over the place
Speaker 1: when he's running all arms and legs, all arms and legs,
Speaker 1: six four eighteen pounds. But you're right, jet sweeps reverses.
Speaker 1: Just flip him the football and let him go. But
Speaker 1: high catch radius two. Remember he provides that large strike
Speaker 1: zone for the quarterback. Yeah, sure does so. Kenny Galladay.
Speaker 1: Uh that's the Detroit select at number ninety six. So
Speaker 1: now we're into the compensatory phase of thish of this draft.
Speaker 1: That would be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten eleven picks. Uh, that we have to navigate here
Speaker 1: to end the second day of the NFL Draft. The
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, their pick is in again. This is picked
Speaker 1: number ninety seven. Uh, just kind of looking at my board, man,
Speaker 1: I We've still got guys, uh things on that board. Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about tankers Lee's on that board, Hanson the
Speaker 1: receiver forward. I mean there's some guys that are still
Speaker 1: there that can be selected. So, uh, we'll see what
Speaker 1: in fact that the Dolphins do here. This is the
Speaker 1: last time I'm saying Cordrea tankers Le's name. Is it?
Speaker 1: They need a corner. They're gonna let him play man,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna pick him. I'm throwing machine away. They're
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet money? Are you sad? Are you sad? Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm unstand. I'm done saying his name. It's time for
Speaker 1: him to get picked. We're at ninety seven. We weren't,
Speaker 1: and he's the best press man corner in this class.
Speaker 1: We weren't sure. We're at ninety seven. He's getting If
Speaker 1: he doesn't get picked, I'm taking his name off of
Speaker 1: all my pieces of paper. You can take his name off,
Speaker 1: so I don't reever it's to say, you don't have
Speaker 1: to say it anymore. I'm gonna be done with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out. Well, he's Dane. He's got to
Speaker 1: be your best guy too, though, right, I mean left
Speaker 1: as far as Carl Lawson, Carl Carl Lawson. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me see here who I've well, that was an
Speaker 1: over rate on us right there. Maybe, I mean we'll
Speaker 1: see I've got I've got Chad Hanson and Carl Lawson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's he's third. They got whole scared of
Speaker 1: his hip, right, and that's gotta be it. It might maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean he had the acl had the hip. I
Speaker 1: mean short arms hurt, but not this much. Well, and
Speaker 1: the thing though, whatever about short arms, I understand that,
Speaker 1: and that's a huge deal. But with Carl Lawson, you
Speaker 1: see a guy who knows how to beat the kind
Speaker 1: in front of him, and a number of different ways.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about Lawson he uses his lower body
Speaker 1: and his upper body in unison. The power with his
Speaker 1: upper body, the lower body quickness and he uses it
Speaker 1: in conjunction to break down the blocker and get to
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So yeah, I'm I'm with you. It's surprise
Speaker 1: he's still here. He shouldn't be. Yeah, well we'll see
Speaker 1: if in fact the Dolphins uh make that pick. We
Speaker 1: all would like it, Jeff, you even talked about it's
Speaker 1: a it's a team that could use a cornerback right there,
Speaker 1: if I'm not if I'm correct, right, yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: that at the very least. Now again, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: cheating off of Dane. But for we're all on the
Speaker 1: same team here. But for Miami U Xavian Howard was
Speaker 1: there a year ago? And how well did Davian Howard play?
Speaker 1: And how much depth does Miami have at the cornerback
Speaker 1: spot to where when you get to hear where you're
Speaker 1: knocking on the door of Day three, the best press
Speaker 1: man corner in the draft is staring in the face
Speaker 1: Firon Maxwell is the top guy. But then good, you're
Speaker 1: Howard was a second rounder last year, so you're expecting
Speaker 1: a jump for him after his rookie season. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you still need more depth there behind those two. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's take a break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back back get We'll get the We'll get the Dolphins pick.
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Speaker 1: brought us Dane Burglar, Def Kavanaugh, and Kat Kevin Turner.
Speaker 1: We're watching all kinds of stuff going on. Chad Williams
Speaker 1: off the board. Chad Williams off the board. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's go back to the picks. We started the competitive
Speaker 1: story round ninety seven tankers Lee did in fact go
Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins. And then now we're watching the
Speaker 1: highlights of Carolina. This is actually a pick. This is
Speaker 1: Arizona's pick. Is where this is so this went pick
Speaker 1: went from Carolina to Arizona and Arizona at three ninety
Speaker 1: eight has taken. Chad Williams. Danny talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about him from the Senior Bowl. Didn't look out of
Speaker 1: place at all. There, Danny Widerser from Grambling, Bingo. That's
Speaker 1: exactly the point. He went to. The Senior was a
Speaker 1: late edition and you wouldn't know it. I mean, you
Speaker 1: would have thought he was one of the top receiver
Speaker 1: prospects there with the way he played. A tough, scrappy guy.
Speaker 1: Uh and he's you know, decent, size six one, two
Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds, tested well at his pro day.
Speaker 1: It was a four or four oh athlete. There's there's
Speaker 1: a lot to like about who he is and who
Speaker 1: he can be, who he can develop into. So he
Speaker 1: needs some route running work. But you know, he's the
Speaker 1: first Grambling player drafted sense former Cowboy Jason Hatcher. Jason Hatcher, Yeah,
Speaker 1: third round, right, two thousand and six, right, third round exactly.
Speaker 1: So like the biggest thing was a Senior Bowl for him.
Speaker 1: That's why he's a there. Yeah, he looked good even
Speaker 1: though he did he looked really good to Senior Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: so well, speaking of guys that look good, well, we'll
Speaker 1: visit now with Dallas Cowboys Newis Dallas Cowboys Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: and Jordan, Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. You're on our
Speaker 1: radio broadcasts on one I five three the fan in
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Brian brought us Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, and Kevin Turner. Uh, talk about your night
Speaker 1: so far. You were you were a guy that uh
Speaker 1: you know that the Cowboys obviously they've gone to the
Speaker 1: well now with your teammate Taco Charlton, and now they
Speaker 1: go to the to grab you. There have to be
Speaker 1: very excited about that. Um, I'm hated, man. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to be a part of a great organization, you know
Speaker 1: what Cowboys, and UM, I'm just I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what's the store from. How did how did this whole
Speaker 1: process go for you? Meeting with all these teams? Did
Speaker 1: you know how interested the Cowboys were and how did
Speaker 1: your interactions go with them? Um? I knew that, you know,
Speaker 1: they were interested because you know I had ties with
Speaker 1: coach Jackson and UM, you know he saw the style
Speaker 1: of play to that you know I brought to the
Speaker 1: game and UM, he always liked it. So, UM, I
Speaker 1: knew that the Cowboys were always you know, a contender. Um,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know, you know that they were, you know,
Speaker 1: actually gonna pull a gun on me. How would you
Speaker 1: describe your style of player that you just mentioned. I
Speaker 1: like to get physical. Uh. I think I'm a technician,
Speaker 1: you know. I like to you know, work on my
Speaker 1: technique and be perfect addic, and I like to get
Speaker 1: a guy's faces. You know, I'm a competitor, so I
Speaker 1: definitely think that's you know, some of the key points
Speaker 1: of my game. Yeah. Obviously you know you're you're not
Speaker 1: six two two ten pounds, a little undersize compared to
Speaker 1: a lot of corners, but you don't let that stop you.
Speaker 1: You play like a bigger guy. Talk about how you're
Speaker 1: able to you know, mask maybe some shortcomings of size
Speaker 1: in some other areas. Uh, just you know, just being
Speaker 1: a technician, like I said, you know, working on your craft,
Speaker 1: being perfect at it, you know, uh, no missteps, you know,
Speaker 1: just just understanding the game more and uh just just
Speaker 1: normal where guys want to be at certain times of
Speaker 1: different things like that. Just just understand understanding the game
Speaker 1: more and uh, just playing to your strong suits. I
Speaker 1: think that's you know, that's what you know gives me
Speaker 1: the edge. Jordan. You know you mentioned playing for Greg
Speaker 1: Jackson there at Michigan and Greg came in and did
Speaker 1: a heck of a job with the secondary here. But
Speaker 1: you know, Grego was quiet, guys, he's a teammate of
Speaker 1: mind of LSU. Doesn't say a whole heck of a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, talk about him on the field, you know,
Speaker 1: and what and how he helped you, you know, with
Speaker 1: your development. I know he was away from you this year,
Speaker 1: but talk about the being reunited with him. He was,
Speaker 1: you know, he was all he was a safety coach
Speaker 1: actually we were at mission, but he would always invite
Speaker 1: us to, you know, to his meeting room and uh
Speaker 1: show us how to break down filming and you know,
Speaker 1: show him show us what you know, teams want to
Speaker 1: do in different formations and different things like that. And
Speaker 1: he actually taught us a game. You know, he talks
Speaker 1: you know, the game of you know, advanced football. You know,
Speaker 1: what's what you're gonna see at the next leveling things
Speaker 1: like that, how to study and uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: that helped everybody's game and that secondary of Michigan. So
Speaker 1: uh uh, you know, I'm extremely you know, um appreciative,
Speaker 1: you know everything that he did for us all and
Speaker 1: also your teammate Taco was drafted last night by the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts on uh Taco Charlton Oh man,
Speaker 1: he's he's a competitor, man. Yeah, and he's a tender
Speaker 1: as they come. Uh. Definitely excited to get down there
Speaker 1: and and play with uh with my guy. Uh one
Speaker 1: of the people that I said I bring down there.
Speaker 1: Uh if I if I was ever to get drafted. Well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what, George Day, Don't let that.
Speaker 1: Don't let this ezekiel Ella get in your face and
Speaker 1: that Ohio State guys. You guys, maintain that toughness. I
Speaker 1: know it's a you go from enemies to family right
Speaker 1: here now, right, let be fun. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun though. See what you're gonna see how
Speaker 1: we interact so well. Look, I look forward to yeah,
Speaker 1: I look forward the end of the season with those
Speaker 1: games of the Michigan Ohio State game and see the
Speaker 1: bets you guys got hey or thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us today. Look forward to seeing you here
Speaker 1: very soon again. Congratulations cerebrity here at Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: com and one oh five three the fan. Okay, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. All right, take care all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's uh and kids kind of double doing helping
Speaker 1: us out here. As always. Engineering on the Fly got
Speaker 1: some secret audio from the war room from the Fort
Speaker 1: Center war room with Jordan Lewis Jordan Day, how are
Speaker 1: you doing, Georgia Terry Jones with the Cowboys? Hey, Jordan,
Speaker 1: we just turned your card in and you're now Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Oh my god, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Dear Well, I'll tell you this and we uh, of
Speaker 1: course Scott Taco in here as well, and so I
Speaker 1: think Michigan's taking it over around here, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: but listen, I just know it's a big night for you.
Speaker 1: Just everyone that has spent any time evaluating getting to
Speaker 1: know people that know you gave you the high marks
Speaker 1: for character and being the person you are. So congratulation
Speaker 1: with that, Thank you so much. But now you are
Speaker 1: now a Dallas cowboy. But I want to hand the
Speaker 1: phone to you too, Jason Gart Jordan, what's hey, how
Speaker 1: you doing, coach? I'm doing great? Congratulations, thank you. We've
Speaker 1: got all these Michigan guys around here, now where to go.
Speaker 1: It's a big day for you. It's a big day
Speaker 1: for us too. We're excited to have you. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. So, oh my god, you're getting ready to
Speaker 1: get to work. Yes, sir, it's gonna start fast. You
Speaker 1: better be ready. I'm I'm I'm so ready. Coach good.
Speaker 1: We're really excited to have you. Congrats, man, look forward
Speaker 1: to seeing you. Thank you so much. There you have it.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, man, it's like the awkward you just
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't know what to say. And
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the one that's the funniest ones
Speaker 1: when they got the family in the background just going
Speaker 1: yeah nuts. We've heard those. You've heard those. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: can you walk in another room. I'm trying to I'm
Speaker 1: trying to help you here. You know, just it's age
Speaker 1: gap that makes it the best. I still don't know
Speaker 1: how to talk to adults. Yeah, it's very hard about
Speaker 1: like he's just yeah, Jerry, yeah, Jerry Yeah. And how
Speaker 1: do you how do you respond to It's a bunch
Speaker 1: of Michigan guys right here. Yeah, it'd be funny that
Speaker 1: Zeke Zeke will getting those kids face him and Tacco.
Speaker 1: There'll be there'll be some there'll be some funny, funny
Speaker 1: locker room scenes with those guys. So, uh look forward
Speaker 1: to seeing Jordan Lewis part of the We'll have a
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp in two weeks, not the week after this week,
Speaker 1: that this, but then two weeks we'll have the rookie
Speaker 1: mini camp and see him on the field. Getting a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about why the smaller corners you know, reach, right,
Speaker 1: it's all about the reach, But and I also think
Speaker 1: it's about not long either. Well yeah, that's yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's what we were talking about with Dory Jackson, right.
Speaker 1: But I think what these guys bring with attitude and
Speaker 1: competitive nature and the aggressiveness they play with, I think
Speaker 1: that makes up for it. I really do. And so yes,
Speaker 1: ideally you know those inches matter, but with these guys
Speaker 1: bring from a football character standpoint, and look, I know
Speaker 1: we're we're still waiting to hear more about the Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis off the field, the arrest and what's going on
Speaker 1: with that. What do the Cowboys know how with a
Speaker 1: comfort level with everything that needs to play itself out.
Speaker 1: But in terms of on the field, these guys, Uh,
Speaker 1: the attitude that they play with, it's strong selling points.
Speaker 1: You can bet the coaches. Those high fives Jack in
Speaker 1: the war room. Yeah, those were not you know, fake,
Speaker 1: those were not Okay, we got they're excited to get
Speaker 1: the two players. Yeah. And also I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: obviously they're comfortable with it. Otherwise they probably don't make
Speaker 1: the selection. But in that phone call, like it Jerry
Speaker 1: before he handed the phone off to coach Garrett said,
Speaker 1: we love you. We love the high character market that
Speaker 1: you have. Yeah, that's not something you normally say about
Speaker 1: someone who's being you know, in a situation that he's in. Right, So,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously they're very comfortable and you know, until
Speaker 1: more informations out, there's not really much to say with it.
Speaker 1: But hey, the secondary has for the most part been remade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you've made up for losing car and Clayborne.
Speaker 1: Let's get it that way. And maybe a Wouzier has
Speaker 1: safety potential. Yeah. I like with Dane saying, I think
Speaker 1: that's a question that needs to be asked tonight and
Speaker 1: we need to text David Hellman. Should be the first question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be if you if you're interested, because they
Speaker 1: liked the conversion guy, and you know that's if that's
Speaker 1: the case, that's that's a good thing right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's catch up. The Broncos are about to make their
Speaker 1: pick at one oh one, but I'll go ahead. We'll see,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the picks. Ahead of that, we had
Speaker 1: Chad Williams, the Grambling wide receiver, went to Arizona at
Speaker 1: ninety eight. Combine snub drafted, yeah, exactly, Philadelphia at ninety
Speaker 1: nine took Russeul Douglas, the cornerback from West Virginia. So
Speaker 1: we've a lot of folks kind of had him potentially
Speaker 1: mocked to the Cowboys. Uh. Then at pick one hundred
Speaker 1: would be Tennessee. Uh, John new Smith, the tied end
Speaker 1: from Florida International, and then we're now Denver is taken
Speaker 1: with pick one oh one Brendan Langley, a cornerback from Lamar,
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guy. Right day, same thing with John new Smith,
Speaker 1: just went off the board to Lally Langley. He's a
Speaker 1: former sec guy Georgia, Georgia. Right, they played him at receiver.
Speaker 1: They didn't know what to do with them. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he transfers, goes the FCS and Lamar they play him
Speaker 1: at corner. He's fastest player in the field. Really impressive,
Speaker 1: but he's as raw as they come. Yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of this player as a rookie.
Speaker 1: He needs a lot of work. But you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking about a guy that's north of six foot, north
Speaker 1: of two hundred pounds, a four four three athlete. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to like about just the raw traits and
Speaker 1: what he could grow into. But again, extremely raw. But
Speaker 1: at this point, late third round, I get it. I
Speaker 1: mean I had a fourth fifth type of grade on him,
Speaker 1: but here in the late third I can understand the justification. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we're now into Seattle is gonna be all
Speaker 1: Let's say, after length, here we go with Seattle selection.
Speaker 1: Kent say what Seattle's selection at y got Seattle? Seahaw
Speaker 1: select Nazir Jones D tackle North Carolina. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: So Nazir Jones kind of thought, yeah sloading up a
Speaker 1: D line? Yeah, what's up again? Kts hating the fact
Speaker 1: that they're they're trying to get the guy hurt, their
Speaker 1: quarter trying to get to the other quarterback and their
Speaker 1: quarterbacks looking at they Yeah, they they did. They took
Speaker 1: they did take an offensive line. Oh yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: got him one. They got him one. They got him one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think he's uh, you know in Seattle and
Speaker 1: the fourth three, I think he's a three technique again
Speaker 1: in Nazi. Yeah, I was. That's what I was thinking
Speaker 1: when I was watching him on tape, right, and I
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of both. Um, you know
Speaker 1: he uh, his flashes are really impressive, really really impressive. Uh,
Speaker 1: with that quickness off the ball where he can get
Speaker 1: through grass, get through gaps and then kind of disrupt
Speaker 1: what's going on in the pocket. Right, he's still kind
Speaker 1: of fared away from what he's going to be and
Speaker 1: that's that's why he's a third round pick. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot to like about, you know, what he could
Speaker 1: grow into. So that was a Seattle selection. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking, you know, a three technique really.
Speaker 1: I mean that maybe there's some people talking about him
Speaker 1: being like a bass like an end playing a little
Speaker 1: bit of a you know, a five technique defensive end.
Speaker 1: So but he is a selection Nazir Jones defensive tackle
Speaker 1: uh from North Carolina. Okay, so that puts uh, this
Speaker 1: is a pick uh from let's see here, Pick one
Speaker 1: oh three belongs to the New Orleans Saints. Uh. That
Speaker 1: pick is in. Let's see if in fact that they
Speaker 1: uh uh in fact uh make this pick without going
Speaker 1: to a podium, uh to make the pick? Uh? You
Speaker 1: got anybody in mind? Note Saints, Jeff you you seem
Speaker 1: to have the seat over in eads in front of
Speaker 1: you right there. Let's see NFC. Yeah, New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: I mean they did a quarterback quarterback. Oh, go Peterman
Speaker 1: defensive end, quarterback. What have they already done? New Orleans
Speaker 1: has New Orleans has had a heck of a draft.
Speaker 1: They really have, And I'm gonna find the specifics for
Speaker 1: you real quick. They uh Marshall and Lattimore, Ryan Ramchick,
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, Alvin Kamara, and then they did the linebacker Enzlone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that's quite a few good players there. Well,
Speaker 1: good quarterback, defensive end, maybe a linebacker. Let's see. Here's
Speaker 1: the selection. At one h three and third pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, defensive end. Yeah. A lot of people liked
Speaker 1: this guy in combine, right, he worked really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tested really well. And it was funny that it
Speaker 1: was one of those guys. The tape wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's folks that really really liked him, and they're
Speaker 1: showing highlights right now him playing against Kansas State and
Speaker 1: uh and uh getting after a little bit, but find
Speaker 1: some highlights and make players look real. I don't. I don't. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I like the motor doesn't Yeah, that's the third round.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, he tested really well, and
Speaker 1: that's what that's why he's here because the athletic testing numbers,
Speaker 1: because the tape. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: he is a knack for blocking kicks and the motor
Speaker 1: doesn't shut off, and I think you know, those two
Speaker 1: things will help. Yeah, I mean I I didn't see
Speaker 1: the combine. If you watch the tape, it's not quick tape,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and you see all the combine
Speaker 1: numbers and you're going, wow, this guy should be But
Speaker 1: the film again, it's like it's like melafal Wu. You
Speaker 1: don't see the athletic numbers translate into tape. I know
Speaker 1: some guys around the league that really really liked this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, And and the fact that he h that
Speaker 1: he went at pick one oh three to the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. It tells you that the Saints obviously thought,
Speaker 1: uh something was going on there. Some quotes from Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: I think all charges will be dropped. I'm completely innocent.
Speaker 1: That's what he told the Dallas Morning News. Good and
Speaker 1: then in David Hellman just tweeted, I think it'll be
Speaker 1: squashed then and there talking about his trial which is
Speaker 1: set for July. Right, So that's good news. Still it's
Speaker 1: still hanging over him. There is nothing you know that's
Speaker 1: uh set in stone right now. But uh, you know
Speaker 1: it is good news, and you just you wonder what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys knew or if you know, are they worried
Speaker 1: about this? Is this something you know they obviously they
Speaker 1: did their homework, you know, and they felt they felt
Speaker 1: comfortable if they drafted him here. But it is something
Speaker 1: that will be hanging over his head at least until
Speaker 1: until July in the trial. All right. So we uh
Speaker 1: that's that's good news. I mean, well it's it's important.
Speaker 1: It's important news. We'll see exactly what happens. You know.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, Uh, they have a very good security director here,
Speaker 1: you know, with Larry Wansley, and they get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of a lot of situations. So we'll see. You know,
Speaker 1: they obviously have done their homework on their players, so
Speaker 1: we'll see the San Francisco forty nine ers, their picks
Speaker 1: gonna come up live. Uh, the forty nine ers that
Speaker 1: pick one oh four, Jeff, flip me something on the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. And they still they have not what
Speaker 1: if let me want to what they've done. Yeah. Let
Speaker 1: they were the story last night, taking Salomon Thomas at
Speaker 1: three right, Ruben Foster at thirty one right, and then
Speaker 1: earlier in the third round they took Kello Witherspoon, the
Speaker 1: cornerback right. So I'd say three for three on draft
Speaker 1: picks so far. Yeah, which according to us was three
Speaker 1: of the needs, which leaves them with quarterback and running
Speaker 1: back at least as two of them. They need football
Speaker 1: players in San Francisco, though, they just need a bunch
Speaker 1: of That's true. That's a roster that needs a lot
Speaker 1: of help. So I think you could kind of look
Speaker 1: up and down your board and just say, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: who's our best player and where are we gonna go?
Speaker 1: Why would they not take why would they not take
Speaker 1: Peterman here? Why are they not? Yeah? I like that,
Speaker 1: like that at I mean I think that to me,
Speaker 1: if you're looking at a quarterback, I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: best quarterback on our board, on the on the one
Speaker 1: oh five three board, and the guys they have their bridges.
Speaker 1: You're talking about Brian Hoyer, You're talking about Matt Barkley.
Speaker 1: Neither one of those as long. Yeah, right here, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a swing on a mid round quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's the one to do it on. If you want
Speaker 1: to hope you can develop a guy to a starter,
Speaker 1: I think he might be the last one left. Right. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know what about give me some thumbnail, Give me
Speaker 1: a thumbnail on Peterman. I mean what you mean, Here's
Speaker 1: a guy that I know for a fact that Cowboys
Speaker 1: went and worked him out, really liked him. The fact
Speaker 1: he was playing under center. He's got some good tape,
Speaker 1: that's the key. He's well versed in a pro style scheme. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's not afraid to push the
Speaker 1: ball downfield. And really, I think it might come down
Speaker 1: in terms of the next quarterback off the board, Peterman
Speaker 1: or Dobbs, two players that started at Tennessee. Dobbs beat
Speaker 1: out Peterman. Peterman went to pitt uh And you know,
Speaker 1: I think it worked out for the best for both sides.
Speaker 1: But you know, with Peterman, he was a sixty percent
Speaker 1: completion percentag Well, here's here's San Francisco selection. Let's let's listen.
Speaker 1: Just go forty nine or select CJ. Beho quarterback went
Speaker 1: Beethar there? Huh okay about that? That was? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: was who wants to take this one? I mean we
Speaker 1: had him in a mock draft, staying away from it.
Speaker 1: We had him in the sex How about that? Sometimes
Speaker 1: you like to see a guy do better than your
Speaker 1: thought he'd duke. Congratulations, CJ. You got more? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like do you feel like Shanahan does he? Does
Speaker 1: he maybe see a little bit of does he maybe
Speaker 1: see a little bit of cousins in this guy? We
Speaker 1: talked about how I would think the Pittsburgh guy would
Speaker 1: be more cousins. I agree, But we talked about how
Speaker 1: scheme in college can kind of hold a prospect back, right,
Speaker 1: Zay Jones and some of these other guys. That was
Speaker 1: the case here at Iowa. It was CJ. Bethard uh
Speaker 1: run first offense and they just didn't let him let
Speaker 1: it loose at all. I mean, they didn't have a
Speaker 1: downfield threat that he could really throw it too. So
Speaker 1: I think that's if you're drafting him here in the
Speaker 1: third round, which kind of reminds me of Cody Kessler
Speaker 1: going on the third round last year. I don't think
Speaker 1: you could have waited two rounds maybe to get him.
Speaker 1: But they took him here. They must really like him.
Speaker 1: He's obviously has some bloodlines you like. I mean, right,
Speaker 1: you know, his grandfather his grandfather, and I loved his
Speaker 1: Grandfare's grandfather was Bobby Bethar, the general manager Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning general manager with the Skins and then
Speaker 1: also with later with the San Diego Chargers. And Bobby
Speaker 1: Bethard was great to me. I mean every time we
Speaker 1: went to meetings and stuff. Always a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I like the San Diego Charger guys when I was
Speaker 1: hanging around those cats. So yeah, and his brother's a
Speaker 1: scout with the Carolina or excuse me, his uncle is
Speaker 1: a scout with the Carolina Panthers. His brothers a country singer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got a Nashville connection. Very very, very talented family
Speaker 1: for sure. So okay, we're running down the final few
Speaker 1: picks of the draft against San Francisco. One O four
Speaker 1: takes CJ. Bethard. The Pittsburgh Steelers pick is in let
Speaker 1: me just have some fun here. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea what it's gonna be, so
Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong. But we talked about this to the
Speaker 1: night man. Carl Lawson will will look really good with
Speaker 1: the Steelers. That would make a lot of sense. I okay,
Speaker 1: So I just got one of them wrong with this.
Speaker 1: Gotta be something wrong. I wanted them to pick him
Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, that's where I thought the
Speaker 1: fit was, was Pittsburgh. Carl Lawson. James Harrison's what thirty
Speaker 1: nine years old? I thought he would be the air Well.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to the Steward selection. Here at one oh
Speaker 1: five selection, I just want to say, Michael Dulises wants
Speaker 1: to get to the Runey family. Mister Runey made his
Speaker 1: soul arrested peace. Now with the one hundred and fifth
Speaker 1: peak in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Stealers
Speaker 1: select James Connor running back. There you go, James Connor.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what back to back picks were kind
Speaker 1: of surprised they went this early. Yeah, James Connor, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a heck of a story, really, I mean,
Speaker 1: and he was the first guy that when I was
Speaker 1: kind of walking around the combine and I saw he
Speaker 1: was over on one of those he's on a podium
Speaker 1: over on the side, and you know, the running backs
Speaker 1: were all going through, and he was the one that
Speaker 1: had the biggest crowd around him because he's got a
Speaker 1: fascinating story. Dane, you know the story. You know better
Speaker 1: than than anybody though, what James Connor went through to
Speaker 1: get to this point. Yeah, he well, last year, he
Speaker 1: had a great sophomore season. It was over seventeen hundred
Speaker 1: rushing yards back in twenty fourteen. Then twenty fifteen his
Speaker 1: first season opener towards a CLU major knee injury, and
Speaker 1: then during his rehab and with all the medicals going on,
Speaker 1: found out that, you know, he was diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma.
Speaker 1: And so this is a player who had to go
Speaker 1: through a six month battle all types of chemo treatments. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so basically the twenty fifteen season just you know,
Speaker 1: forget about the fifteen season, just his life in general,
Speaker 1: how much change. And then after six months he got
Speaker 1: the good news that he beat cancer. Uh and somehow
Speaker 1: got back in football shaped by the two and sixteen
Speaker 1: season to get on the field, and he wasn't the
Speaker 1: same James Conner we saw as a sophomore. But he's
Speaker 1: still went over a thousand yeards rushing right, And this
Speaker 1: is this is a bruiser, I mean six one and
Speaker 1: a half two hundred and thirty three pounds, physical finisher.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make anyone miss. Yeah, this is he'll
Speaker 1: run over you. You when if you need a short
Speaker 1: yardage If in short yardage situation, you feel good about
Speaker 1: James Conner when you give him the ball. This is
Speaker 1: this is the bus part two in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: nice to see him with all the things that he
Speaker 1: went through, and and and and the fact that he
Speaker 1: gets to stay there at Hindes Field and have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to continue his career whether he makes the active
Speaker 1: roster or is on the practice scri I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: a guy that would just be an inspirational characters there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a great you know, you look at him
Speaker 1: and you get really uh, but he's a good football player.
Speaker 1: Though too. He's a grinder between the tacks. Nothing, there's
Speaker 1: nothing fancy about his game. No, he's not gonna break
Speaker 1: off big runs. That's just what he does. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's a grinder between the tackles. And like we said,
Speaker 1: not learning of the best stories just in this in
Speaker 1: this draft and football, best stories in sports. It's great. Well,
Speaker 1: here we go, Seattle. We're down to the final two picks,
Speaker 1: Pick one, O six and one. Those two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Amara darbou Go. Yeah, Jeff,
Speaker 1: if you're kind of my wide receiver whisper talking about
Speaker 1: him Darba, I'll whisper to Yet, so when you watched
Speaker 1: him at Michigan, it's a guy that's statistically doesn't jump
Speaker 1: out at you right less than sixty catches, under nine
Speaker 1: hundred yards, seven touchdowns. But I think for me, it's
Speaker 1: just a combination of traits. Not maybe not to the
Speaker 1: extent of a six or seventh rounder where you just
Speaker 1: see a couple of things you like and you pick
Speaker 1: a guy, but for a guy that's over six one,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds and then shows up and
Speaker 1: runs in the four fours at the combine. I think
Speaker 1: that level of athleticism for a guy that size is
Speaker 1: something that you're gonna like. Don't like that he bodies
Speaker 1: up a lot of passes on the inside when he
Speaker 1: could catch it with his hands, and I think he
Speaker 1: can catch it with his hands. So for me, the
Speaker 1: one big thing. He's not necessarily twitchy, but he's big,
Speaker 1: he's strong, he's fast, and he's got some nice after
Speaker 1: catch power. Yeah, he'll go up get the football too.
Speaker 1: We'll see a lot of plays down the field with
Speaker 1: this guy. You see him extend and go get the
Speaker 1: football for It's amazing for a guy that does have
Speaker 1: some hight to him. He's got he's good with his feet,
Speaker 1: he has something I remember, I mean him kind of
Speaker 1: getting his feet down. We're watching some film where him
Speaker 1: getting close to the sideline, get his feet down, core
Speaker 1: end zone, get the feet down. That kind of guy
Speaker 1: football awareness, that way, kind of a kind of unorthodox
Speaker 1: route running style, exactly the way to get open and Dane,
Speaker 1: we just talked about a good story. That's another good story.
Speaker 1: Another great story. I'm mean on you because I know
Speaker 1: you have all the details because I read about it
Speaker 1: in your guide. Yeah, he was born in war torn
Speaker 1: Western Africa, Okay, and he there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: killed back in the early nineties because of that, the
Speaker 1: conflict and Sierra Leone, including his parents. They didn't make
Speaker 1: it out of there. So he was raised by his
Speaker 1: aunts and kind of he moved to the US. He
Speaker 1: was adopted by a family here and it's really a
Speaker 1: great story. He kind of you know, late bloomber to football.
Speaker 1: Obviously didn't know English when he came here and it
Speaker 1: just adapted very well and really turned himself into something.
Speaker 1: So it's he went. He became a US citizen a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Uh. At Michigan, he saw him
Speaker 1: get better each and every season and emerging is their
Speaker 1: top player. And oh we just said another pick. Kendall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kendall Beckworth. Kendall Beckworth, the LSU linebacker. Uh he is
Speaker 1: uh has been injured acl injury suffered late in practice
Speaker 1: at LSU and late in the season. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, really the heart and soul, I mean you
Speaker 1: talk about Adams the safety being a heart and soul.
Speaker 1: This kid right here is as tough as they come.
Speaker 1: And the Tampa Bay Buccaneers third round pick one oh seven.
Speaker 1: They end the night with Kendall beckwith the linebacker from LSU.
Speaker 1: Highly competitive player, passionate player. You can see the way
Speaker 1: he loves the game by the way he plays. So
Speaker 1: that will be it for Day two of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft tomorrow. Uh, the Green Bay Packers will lead off
Speaker 1: the day known as the Day of the Scouts. Uh.
Speaker 1: They will have the first pick to start today. Uh. Guys,
Speaker 1: you know, surprises, we'll focus on the Cowboy front of it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, with UH, we were kind of hoping maybe
Speaker 1: you know, different players. Dane. You you have really favorable
Speaker 1: reports on both the selections of the Cowboys made today.
Speaker 1: It feel like that definitely potentially guy that could be
Speaker 1: a nickel player, maybe a safety. You know, well, I
Speaker 1: got some flexibility here. I didn't mind the talk with
Speaker 1: Charleston pick. You know, it wasn't a bad pick at all.
Speaker 1: I'd like to pick. I love the two picks today. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm more excited about these two picks, not because they're
Speaker 1: better players, just because of the value they got in
Speaker 1: the second and third rounds. Again, this is my sixth
Speaker 1: and eighth corners with the Woozier and Jordan Lewis. The versatility.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Lewis is better in the slot. He's
Speaker 1: more of that nickel corner inside with the toughness, and
Speaker 1: then a woozier. He can play outside, he can play safety,
Speaker 1: he can do those different things. And I like that
Speaker 1: they went away from just the you know, we want tall,
Speaker 1: long corners. You know, they took good football players, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean they took two players that the football intelligence,
Speaker 1: the competitiveness, the attitude. Uh, these guys have position flex
Speaker 1: Really like what they did, and like I said before,
Speaker 1: what they've done the last two years with Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: these two guys, they're really revamping that secondary. I wasn't
Speaker 1: was I'm sorry, it was not surprising to me. It's
Speaker 1: because he was on the thirty thirty visit, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that was they kind of tipped that off, right,
Speaker 1: But to Jordan Lewis at ninety two, you know, Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: it just kind of wasn't in my mind because of
Speaker 1: the incident. And it's one of those things that almost
Speaker 1: blacklists you today. Three right, and and and you know
Speaker 1: what that pick is ninety two right there at the
Speaker 1: back end of the third round. That is you know,
Speaker 1: pretty close. So it's a good good time to make
Speaker 1: a pick like that if you think there's risk. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like they seem to think there's considerable
Speaker 1: risk with Jordan Lewis. Yeah, well they're not making this
Speaker 1: pick just you know, without knowing sure, I feel, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty good. They must know. They have a great feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Larry Wansley is right outstanding at his job here, and
Speaker 1: so they know exactly. It's much like when we heard
Speaker 1: the rumors about, you know, with Conley, you know when
Speaker 1: they you know, hey, they were a team that was
Speaker 1: interested in doing the research on Conley. You know. Evidently, yeah,
Speaker 1: he went ahead of them, you know, to Oakland at
Speaker 1: twenty four, but you know, they had they felt like
Speaker 1: that they had the research done what they needed to do. So,
Speaker 1: you know, that's important to have a guy that's really
Speaker 1: good in the trenches as far as digging up that information. Jeff,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Uh, we'll pick tomorrow at the in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. That's pick one thirty three. We've kind of
Speaker 1: talked about, Hey, we've addressed Dane even flowed the idea
Speaker 1: do you need a safety if a Woozier could be
Speaker 1: a safety do yeah? I mean, are you still looking
Speaker 1: for a safety? I think I'm interested to hear what
Speaker 1: they say about the A Woozier pick, because to everybody's point,
Speaker 1: he is a guy that shows you he can line
Speaker 1: up in different places, and once you've taken Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: I think at five ten he is much limited to
Speaker 1: the slot. Do we all agree with that? Like, Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis is probably gonna have to be a slot and
Speaker 1: you like him there because he's sticky in coverage, He's
Speaker 1: willing to be physical against the run, being closer sort
Speaker 1: of to the ball there in the slot. So I
Speaker 1: like the idea of having him there. The question is
Speaker 1: where you're gonna put a Woozy and what does that
Speaker 1: mean for what we're going to talk about tomorrow? So
Speaker 1: I feel like here in twenty minutes, when we hear
Speaker 1: them talk about these players will know. But I love
Speaker 1: the idea that the same names that we were talking
Speaker 1: about for a potential round a three pick. Yeah, can
Speaker 1: this draft falling away that a Desmond King or Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods is still on the board for you and you
Speaker 1: could get another piece in the secondary. Now that's a
Speaker 1: lot and for somebody who didn't love the pick at
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Yeah, because I was a T. J. Watt fan.
Speaker 1: I liked the projection of trying to get that sort
Speaker 1: of athleticism after the passer. But to think that you
Speaker 1: could come out of this thing with you just made
Speaker 1: your secondary younger, You're fast, you're competitive at the corner
Speaker 1: spot now and you hacked off, hacked off Andricky trade
Speaker 1: trying right and now, by the way, Jerry is saying,
Speaker 1: it's totally erroneous, and though we heard from Mike Foll
Speaker 1: that Orlando said, I was told they're trying to trade
Speaker 1: mere we go. But either way, I like the fact
Speaker 1: that you are now younger in that secondary with guys
Speaker 1: that are scrappy, and we'll see what the other one
Speaker 1: is going to be. But once you've done that, then
Speaker 1: look back at the Taco Charlton pick and he say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you added a guide to my defensive end rotation with
Speaker 1: some upside that at worst is probably a solid player.
Speaker 1: And I got younger and faster in my secondary. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take that through three rounds Kevin Turner, can you
Speaker 1: give me an offensive guy that they might take in
Speaker 1: the fourth round tomorrow? Well, I mean we talked about
Speaker 1: Jake Butt and make a lot of sense there. Wait
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, if Jake Butt were to follow
Speaker 1: you that far, have we completely rolled out offensive line?
Speaker 1: I mean there's some pretty good offensive linement on there.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they would feel out these guys.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to tackle, maybe Jillian Davenport from buck
Speaker 1: Nell m I kind of like the Saragosa get it
Speaker 1: guard man. If you if you depend on what you
Speaker 1: trust Lyle Collins and you got a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of flex, maybe Byron Bell could do that for you.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of a lot of options there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anything from a skill standpoint. Running back,
Speaker 1: you know, there's guys I like. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they would like him. I like Tarik Cohen, okay, and
Speaker 1: I like Donnelle pump Free from San Diego State. Uh
Speaker 1: kind of feel that Lance Dunbar Area. I think those
Speaker 1: are some things that would make sense. But you know
Speaker 1: how far back in the day. You know another guy
Speaker 1: I like it running back is Jamal Williams. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like him a lot. It's just is he there for
Speaker 1: you late in the fourth Yeah, it's that might be
Speaker 1: they might think that and we like that pick. I
Speaker 1: mean I thought we had him in the third round,
Speaker 1: but I think if you got him in fourth at
Speaker 1: the in the fourth round, that would be a tremendous
Speaker 1: pick right there from b Yu so Wayne Gallman as
Speaker 1: well from games In still on the board there for
Speaker 1: those wide receivers, Dane, I mean we taught me and
Speaker 1: would you add any of those? Hanson Ford, Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Jeff you you like Noah Brown a lot. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to think of a guy we Katie Cannon was
Speaker 1: a guy that we talked about speed, right, we talked
Speaker 1: about speed guy up the field. Hey, if you're interested
Speaker 1: in the gadget guy, how about the Mackenzie guy at Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a gadget guy, Switzer not for
Speaker 1: this team, but Switzer that that's a really good player.
Speaker 1: I think that's left a slot receiver from North Carolina? Right,
Speaker 1: would you take? I was go ahead? I like the
Speaker 1: better North Carolina wide receiver? Oh, Clack Collins, Collins, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about I'm still a name for you in a
Speaker 1: position we haven't talked about much. What if Sean Lee
Speaker 1: gets hurt or something, God forbid, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: Would it be nice to have Blair Brown on your team? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you look at a quarterback too.
Speaker 1: We still got still got Peterman there, still got Peter.
Speaker 1: That's my guy still here. Yeah, we're over here picking
Speaker 1: Davis Webb, who the next time he reads a defense
Speaker 1: will be the first time. Bethard. I mean, that's C. J. Bethard.
Speaker 1: That's off the board. And my guy Peterman can't get
Speaker 1: a look. Come on, Peterman's gonna Dak Prescott this thing here,
Speaker 1: fourth rounder who ends up making it in this league.
Speaker 1: All right, well, hey, listen, that's a that that'll be.
Speaker 1: We'll put that, We put the ro apps on that.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow this draft will be day three. We'll be on
Speaker 1: one oh five three on the actual airway. So if
Speaker 1: you're driving around, give us a list song. And Jeff
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh is gonna be quarterback in the team. Can I
Speaker 1: use the voice that I was using today before? We
Speaker 1: will use that voice to the NFL draft exactly. So,
Speaker 1: so Jeff Kavana, I'll be quarterback in tomorrow the same croup.
Speaker 1: We'll be on the air hopefully tomorrow about ten forty five.
Speaker 1: The draft starts at eleven am Central sou twelve Eastern.
Speaker 1: So get ready for another round of what's known as
Speaker 1: the Scouts Draft. What time do we go on? I
Speaker 1: think it's ten forty five. I'm trying to check mine
Speaker 1: right now. Well exactly, we'll sneak in a catnap and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. We'll be right back exactly. So
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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning for Day three of the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen NFL Draft.