1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: It is Verdicus Center, Teed Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: It's nice to have you with us, and if you're 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: watching us on YouTube, also really nice to have you 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: with us on YouTube and on Facebook as we're doing 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: a lot of these shows now on video as well. Centator, 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about. This is like 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: on my bingo card today I did not have. 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about. 10 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: The Muslim pot of the Hood gambling, but that is 11 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: the show tonight. 12 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun. 13 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about of the Muslim Brotherhood. Texas is 14 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: leading the way and this week the state of Texas, 15 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: the governor designated the Muslim Brotherhood designated care as terrorist organizations. 16 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 4: That's something I've. 17 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: Been fighting for a decade to get the federal government 18 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: to do. It's something I believe President Trump will do. 19 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: But Texas leading the way, I think is a very 20 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: important step moving forward. 21 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: I want to commend the governor in the state of Texas. 22 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna break that down, tell you why that matters. 23 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: We're also gonna talk about an investigation that I've launched 24 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: in the Senate Commerce Committee into gambling in professional sports. 25 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: And we've seen the scandal at the NBA of NBA 26 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: players and coaches engaged and being indicted for and prosecuted 27 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: for illicit gambling, and also the scandal in Major League 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Baseball and the challenge that the explosion of gambling has 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: had with incentivizing players to engage in cheating. 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This is something that you've been 71 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: talking about for a while, yeap, designating the Muslim Brotherhood 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: is a terrorist organization, and Texas is now taking a 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: big step. I think this is gonna be a great 74 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: example for the rest of the country and talk about 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: how big of a victory this is in Texas leading 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: the way. 77 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: Well, it's a big victory. 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: Let me tell you about what Texas did, and I'm 79 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: going to take it more broadly into the national fight 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: over designating the Muslim Brotherhood. So Texas this week declared 81 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: CARE and the Muslim Brotherhood is terrorist groups, preventing land purchases. 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: Let me read from Fox News. Texas Governor Greg Abbott 83 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: designated the Council on American Islamic Relations CARE and the 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood is foreign terrorist and transnational criminal organizations Tuesday, 85 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: preventing both groups from obtaining land in the Lone Star state. 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: Abbot said the statement that he made the move as quote, 87 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood in CARE have long made their goals 88 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: clear to forcibly impose Sharia law and establish Islam's mastership 89 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: of the world. The actions taken by the Muslim Brotherhood 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and CARE to support terrorism across the globe and subvert 91 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: our laws through violence, intimidation, and harassment are unacceptable to day. 92 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: I designated the Muslim Brotherhood in CARE as foreign terrorist 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: organizations and transnational criminal organizations. These radical extremists are not 94 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: welcome in our state and are now prohibited from acquiring 95 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: any real property interest in Texas. A proclamation signed by 96 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: Abbot claims that Care QUOTE is an Islamist organization that, 97 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 3: according to the FBI, was founded as a front group 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: for HAMAS and its support network in the United States. 99 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: It added that Quote CARE and its members have repeatedly employed, 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: affiliated with, and supported individuals promoting terrorism related activities, including 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: Gasan Elashi, a founding member of the Texas branch for 102 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: CARE and treasurer of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: and Development charity QUOTE, who was sentenced to a total 104 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: of sixty five years in prison for financing terrorism in 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. The proclamation also states that HAMAS 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: was QUOTE formed in nineteen eighty seven as the Palestinian 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and that activities of the 108 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood branches have similarly been eliminated or prohibited by 109 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: the governments of Austria, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and 110 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: the United Arab Emirates in light of the Muslim Brotherhood 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: encouraging terrorism or attempting to destabilize these countries. Look, this 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: is real leadership from the State of Texas. It is 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: what the federal government should be doing. The Muslim Brotherhood, 114 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: I believe, is unquestionably a terrorist organization, and we have 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: yet to designate them, as Governor Abbitt noted, many other 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: countries on Earth have, and I believe the United States 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: during the Trump administration, we're going to do this. I've 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: introduced legislation literally for ten years to make this happen 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: at a federal level. 120 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: So what has been the hold up there? 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: For people that are new to this subject we talked 122 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: about before, Maybe they missed an episode. How the hell 123 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: is it so hard to get the Muslim Brotherhood to 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: be declared to terrorist organization through the US government? 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: What is the hold up? Yeah, you mentioned this is 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: like a decades long fight. 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 3: Now So for five consecutive congresses, I've introduced legislation designate 128 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. The hold up, we got very close 129 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: during the first Trump administration. I thought we were going 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: to get it done. During the first Trump administration. The 131 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: resistance was from the deep state at the State Department, 132 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: the career bureaucrats there. And I'll tell you the old 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: versions of the legislation. The way I wrote it, it 134 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: was top down. What does that mean? It directed the 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: State Department to designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood, which is 136 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: the big umbrella organization's a terrorist organization. Here's the argument 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: the career employees that State made. They said, look, there 138 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: are lots of different affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood. We 139 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 3: cannot definitively prove that every one of the affiliates meets 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: the statutory criteria for being a terrorist organization. That's how 141 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: they stopped it from happening in Trump one. So in 142 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: Trump two, I rewrote the legislation and instead of being 143 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: bottom down or top down, I rewrote it to be 144 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: bottom up. And so what the legislation currently says is 145 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: it says that the State Department should designate every one 146 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: of the Muslim Brotherhood affiliates for which the evidence is 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: clear and unequivocal as terrorist organizations. For example, Hamas. Hamas 148 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: is the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. It is indisputable that 149 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: Hamas is a terrorist organization. They carried out October seventh, 150 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: murdered twelve hundred Israelis, raped and murdered women and little girls. 151 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: Hamas is unquestionably a terrorist organization. That's true of multiple 152 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood affiliates. What my new legislation said is designate 153 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: those affiliates, and then it directs the State Department to 154 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood because it gives money to 155 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: those affiliates, and so design date the umbrella organization for 156 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: material support of for giving money to unquestionable terrorist organizations. Now, 157 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: part of the reason I think we're going to get 158 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: this done is that chain of reasoning. There's not a 159 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: step in that reasoning that is assailable. 160 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: The Deep State can't fight that. 161 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the end of the day, let me 162 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: tell you this is not going to be a fight. 163 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: I think that is won legislatively. So I've introduced the legislation. 164 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: I tried very very hard in this Congress to get 165 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: a Democrat to support me. I will tell you I 166 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: talked to numerous Democrats. They said no, they said no. Look, 167 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party is very afraid, unfortunately, of disturbing the 168 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: pro Hamas wing of their party in the House. The 169 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: companion legislation of my legislation has four Democrats on board, 170 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: so we do have some Democrat support. I was able 171 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: to get one Democrat, so John Fetterman is supporting me. 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: So the legislation is Cruz Fetterman. It is bipartisan. 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: By the way, can we just pause there and just 174 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: talk about how cool that is. The more that we 175 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: have interacted, that you've interacted with John, the more respect 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: I really do have for him as a Democrat, the 177 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: way he stood up to his party on the shutdown. Look, 178 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: there are some places where you don't win races. I 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: never thought I would say I am thankful for John 180 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: Fetterman and his leadership in the Senate when he was 181 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: first elected. I got to tell you he may be 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: the biggest surprise in the last decade for me of 183 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: a true Democrat statesman that is willing to come to 184 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: the table on sane issues like the government shutdown or 185 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: like this. And I think when this happens, we as 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: conservatives should take that moment and say job well done 187 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: to Senator Fetterman. I'm really impressed because there's a lot 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: of issues. 189 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: He says. 190 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: Politics are a side. I don't care the heat I'm 191 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: going to get from my party for this. I'm gonna 192 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: do the right thing. We used to have a lot 193 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: more of that in politics. 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to be much more commonplace. When I 195 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: showed up in the Senate thirteen years ago, there was 196 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: such a thing as moderate Demo Democrats, they largely don't exist. Actually, 197 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: someone before that was Kirston Cinema. Kreson Cinema was elected 198 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: from Arizona. When she came in, there was not a 199 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: whole lot of reason to believe she would be a moderate. 200 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: And I will say Kirsten, I really like Kirsten. She 201 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: stood up to her party. She demonstrated real courage. And 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: you know what happened. The Democrats chased her out of 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: the party. Both Cinema and Joe Manchin, who were the 204 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: only two Democrats who said no to eliminating the filibuster, 205 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: the Democrats chased both of them out of the party. 206 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: They said, we don't want a dissent you must obey 207 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: the dictates of the radical left. Well, John Fetterman got elected, 208 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: and listen, You and I both did not support him 209 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: when he was running for the Senate. To begin with, 210 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: he was a Democrat, and his prior record as Lieutenant 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: governor of Pennsylvania gave little reason to think that he 212 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: would be anything other than a left wing Democrat. That's 213 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: certainly what I anticipated. He has astonished me. I like 214 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: John personally. He obviously during the campaign suffered a stroke. 215 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: He had had serious medical issues. It was very difficult. 216 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: His mind could not process the spoken words. So when 217 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: he was newly elected, you would talk to him, but 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: he would carry around an iPad that translated the words 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: that are being said into text, and he would have 220 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: to read the iPad because it was just one of 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: the consequences of the stroke that when you talk to him, 222 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: his brain was operating, but the input of the oral 223 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: spoken word did not make it through. I will say 224 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: his health has improved significantly. He's now able to have 225 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: a conversation and engage. So the aftermath of the stroke 226 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: thankfully has gotten better. But Fetterman has shown real courage 227 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: and standing up to his party on the shutdown he 228 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: stood up to Schumer and said this shutdown is stupid. 229 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: We need to end the shutdown. And on Israel, the 230 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: level of courage he has shown by saying the Prohamas 231 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: wing of our party is wrong. It is terrible, and 232 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: I John Fetterman, are proud to stand with Israel. It's 233 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: been heroic. And I got to say he's been demonized 234 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: by his own party, the Democrats, they treat him terribly. 235 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: The Republicans of the Senate treated much better than the Democrats. 236 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: Do well and not only demonize him. And this goes 237 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: back to his civility. He had a fall this past 238 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: week and Democrats were cheering his fall before we even 239 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: knew like his health. Now he put up a picture 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: of himself. I was glad to see he's going to 241 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: be okay. But like, it just tells you about how 242 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: much if you don't get in line with the Democratic Party. 243 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: It didn't matter if for names Fetterman or Schumer at 244 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: this point or Nancy Pelosi, like it is off with 245 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: your heads in the Democratic Party as a leadership perspective 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: from them, they are done with you if you are 247 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: not going to the extreme left on every issue. 248 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: So Bennett's worse than that. When Fetterman newly arrived in 249 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: the Senate, the Democrats all assumed he would just be 250 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: a left wing reliable vote. And so you had all 251 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: the Democrats putting out statement, he's fine, his health is 252 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: not a problem. And as I said, the stroke had 253 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: very real and limiting effects on him. I mean it was, 254 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: it was significant. But every Democrat defended him. And then 255 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: as his health started to get better, he was willing 256 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: to buck the Democrats. And if you disagree with the 257 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: Democrat party line on even one issue, but especially on 258 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: an issue like the current Democrat party's embrace of Hamas 259 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: and their anti Israel animis, they turned on him viciously. 260 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: And I got to tell you there have been dozens 261 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 3: of articles written with quotes from Democrat senators, Democrat staffers 262 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: just doing everything they could to shive him, to say, 263 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: to actually attack his mental capability and say, oh, he's 264 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: not able to do the job. The irony is they 265 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: attacked him once he had improved significantly, was recovering, but 266 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: yet in their view, the unforgivable sin was daring to 267 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: deviate from what every other Democrat was saying. And I 268 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: view Fetterman as the exception that proves the rule. That 269 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: being said, this legislation to designates the Muslim Brotherhood at 270 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: the national level at Cruz Fetterman to pass, we would 271 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: need sixty Senators. That would mean we would need at 272 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: least seven Democrats. I have no indication that seven Democrats 273 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: are likely to support this. I'm going to try. I'm 274 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: going to keep pressing it. We'll see, we'll put it 275 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 3: for a vote. I would love to have that bipartisan support, 276 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: but as of now. 277 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: I've not been able to get any other Democrats urging it. 278 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean, when you were in for Senate, you know, 279 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: several years ago, did you ever think you would govern 280 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: in a body work with a group of people where 281 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: you can't even get agreement on a designating a terrorist 282 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: organization a terrorists organization? 283 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh? Look, partisan politics has always been part of Washington. 284 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: That being said, it's gotten much much worse. And actually 285 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: President Trump. When President Trump got elected in twenty sixteen, 286 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: it broke the heads of the Democrats. Their minds are melted. 287 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: They just hate him, and so there's much less middle ground. 288 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, my strategy on the Muslim brotherho legislation is 289 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: not necessarily to pass it through Congress, although I'd love to. 290 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to continue trying to pass it through Congress, 291 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: but it is instead to build the public case for 292 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: this so that the Trump administration does so unilaterally. They 293 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: have the authority to do so. There's notice be it. 294 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: As I said in Trump One, we almost got it done, 295 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: and I believe that President Trump will do so. I 296 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: think he'll do so probably in the next year. I 297 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: was in the White House just a couple of weeks ago. 298 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: I talked with the President directly about designating the Muslim Brotherhood. 299 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: I have met with Seb Gorka, who is the senior 300 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: official in the National Security Council who's handling this issus. 301 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: I've talked with Seb about it. I believe the Trump 302 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: administration will do it this time. I think the fact 303 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: that we redesigned it to be bottom up is going 304 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: to make it much harder for the deep state to 305 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: oppose it. And I want to commend Greg Abbott in 306 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: the state of Texas because Texas is designating the Muslim 307 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: Brotherhood in care as well. Really helps for building the momentum. 308 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: The whole purpose the legislative push is to build the 309 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,239 Speaker 3: momentum to pride the air cover for the Trump administration 310 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: to do so. 311 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's going to happen, all right. 312 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: I also want to bring up CARE, and this is 313 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: another aspect of this legislation in Texas. Make it clear 314 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: it's not just some Muslim brotherhood, it's also CARE. This 315 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: one's a little bit more of a complicated organization. 316 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: Break that down. Why they're also getting on the list. 317 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not actually that complicated. I mean, Care is 318 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: a domestic organization. They had previously been implicated in supporting Hamas, 319 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: supporting other terrorist organization. Let me read a story from 320 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: the New York Post. It's entitled Muslim group Care cutting 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: one thousand dollars checks for anti Israel agitators who have 322 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: been disciplined by colleges. 323 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 4: And here's what the New York Post reported. 324 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: Anti Israel agitators who spread disruption at US college colleges 325 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: and we're punished by authorities were awarded checks for one 326 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: thousand dollars by a Muslim nonprofit. The Post has learned 327 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: the money was given to students who faced penalties for 328 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: leading pro Palestinian protests before and after the Hamas attack 329 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: on Israel on October seventh, twenty twenty three, According to 330 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: a bombshell report by the Network Contagent Research Institute and 331 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: the Intelligent Advocacy Network, the cash was awarded from a 332 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: Quote Champions of Justice fund set up by a California 333 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations CARE as 334 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: an institutional endorsement. The report claims in California, the largest 335 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: arm of the CARE web of nonprofits affiliates in San 336 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 3: Francisco and Los Angeles raised more than one hundred thousand 337 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: dollars in donations for the campus radicals, while the main 338 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: group solicited sixty four thousand dollars in red donations. Record 339 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: show the money was then offered as interest free loans 340 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 3: in grants of one thousand dollars to students who lost scholarships, housing, 341 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: or other support because of their advocacy. Accorded to care's website, 342 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: this is you have CARE. Literally, you want to know 343 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: why you had antisemity protest on college campuses. I've been 344 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: saying from the beginning, follow the money. There's follow the 345 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: earning money behind me. 346 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Follow the money. 347 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: The tents all matched, and it's because this is being funded, 348 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: and this is being funded by Islamist This is being 349 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: funded by communists, this is being funded by foreign nations, 350 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: this is being funded by left wing billionaire donors who 351 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: frankly want to undermine America. And so Texas designating care 352 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: as well, that's a big step forward. 353 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: Also, I want you to just pause what you're doing 354 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: for the next sixty seconds, and I want you to 355 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: imagine Lucy, a seven year old. Her stomach often aches 356 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: with hunger, her small hands instead of holding crayons, now 357 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: only the struggle of survival on dusty streets. School is 358 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: a distant dream, Medical care forgotten hope. Lucy's potential is overshadowed, 359 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: her future is dim. But what if someone stepped in? 360 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: What if there was a way to ignite hope for 361 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: children just like Lucy? Well there is, and that with 362 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: Compassion International Partners and the local churches that provide children 363 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: holistic support more than just food. They receive critical medical care, 364 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: life changing education, vital skills training, and spiritual development, all 365 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: in Jesus's name, And you can empower a child just 366 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: like Lucy to break free from poverty. I want you 367 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: to do what I've done and sponsor a child today. 368 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: You can visit Compassion dot com. That's compassion dot Com. 369 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: I want to move to another issue, and that is 370 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: sports gambling. This is a issue I've just genuinely this 371 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: is like my TMZ my soap opera. 372 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm loving watching. 373 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: The the the corruption slowly unfold before our very eyes. 374 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: I say that because I'm a sports fan, you are 375 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: as well. We've gone to games together, we've got to 376 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: playoff games, and I've noticed and I've got friends that 377 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: are that literally play pro sports, and they will watch 378 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: games and they'll hexabic. That's not normal. That was weird. 379 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: The end of that game was strange. Look at the cut, 380 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: look at the points spread, what the game, what the 381 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: gambling line was here? 382 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Look at the over under. 383 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I have friends that are in these sports 384 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: and they're like, they even are like this is a 385 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: red flag, Like this doesn't make sense. What just happened 386 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: the last two minutes of the game or the last 387 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: four minutes of that game. And now we're finding out 388 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: we weren't crazy. There's a lot of fixing that's going 389 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: on now. It may not be fixing the outcome of 390 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: the winner and the loser. And that's what people need 391 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: to understand. The caveat here a lot of times. This 392 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: is like total number of points that are going to 393 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 2: be scored, yep, the margin between the two teams, how 394 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: much we'll want to win by our losing. It can 395 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: even be as simple as a certain player not hitting 396 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: what they were projected in points or three pointers or 397 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: even free throws. And you see these these anomalies or 398 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: weird things that happen with an individual player, or fake 399 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: an injury so that they make sure they don't finish 400 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: the game. This was happening in a widespread way among sports, 401 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: and there were people that were literally getting rich off it. 402 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: It's called fixing. It may not be fixing the game 403 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: as in a score, it's fixing aspects of the game 404 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: that you can bet on. 405 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: Well, look, you and I are both big sports fans. 406 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: Sports is an amazing thing and brings people together and 407 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: give you something to cheer for. 408 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: It's powerful, it can unify. 409 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so fun. 410 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: But you know, look, unfortunately, as long as there's been sports, 411 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: there's been some risk of corruption in sports, and I 412 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: got to say the proliferation of betting on sports has 413 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: increased that risk. And it's not just betting. It's one 414 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: thing to bet that your team's going to win or lose. 415 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: Presumably if you're betting, particularly that your team will win, 416 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: the incentives are aligned that all the members of the 417 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: team want to win. 418 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: But you now have these prop. 419 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: Bets where you can bet on all sorts of different 420 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: aspects of the game, and that I think significantly increases 421 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: the risk of corruption because a prop bet, an individual 422 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: player can can have really significant impact on the outcome 423 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: of that bet. And so we've seen there's an ongoing 424 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: criminal investigation involving the NBA, involving coaches and players fixing games, 425 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: and Major League Baseball as well. And so I'm chairman 426 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. Part 427 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: of the jurisdiction of the Commerce Committee is sports, both 428 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: college sports and pro sports. And so I've launched an 429 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: oversight investigation into into the problem of corruption and the 430 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: impact of prop bets in particular on sports. And so 431 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: I want to read to you a portion of I 432 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: sent a letter to Major League Baseball and and let 433 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: me just just read you a portion of it, because 434 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: the facts are really concerning. Here's what my letter said. 435 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 3: Dear mister Manfred, game fixing allegations are not new to baseball. 436 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: One hundred and five years ago, a Chicago grand jury 437 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: indicted eight Chicago White Sox players for allegedly rigging the 438 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: nineteen nineteen World Series, labeled the Chicago Black Sox in 439 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: the press. The players were eventually acquitted by a Chicago jury, 440 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: even though some had earlier confessed, and all eight were 441 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: banned from baseball for life. Major League Baseball and American 442 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: sports generally are facing a new integrity crisis. Last week, 443 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: prosecutors in the Eastern District of New York unsealed an 444 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 3: indictment against two pitchers for the Cleveland Guardians, accusing them 445 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 3: of rigging their own pitches to make a profit. That 446 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: indictment comes just a few weeks after prosecutors leveled similar 447 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: allegations against coaches and players in the NBA. Ranking member 448 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: Cantwell and I sent a letter to the NBA requesting 449 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: documents in information about that matter, and we now seek 450 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: information from Major League Baseball about how the league is 451 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: addressing alleged game manipulation and threats to baseball's integrity. The 452 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: recent indictment alleges Cleveland Guardians players Immanuel Claise and Luis 453 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: Ortiz purposely threw certain pitches for balls or strikes. 454 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: Yep. 455 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: Both players allegedly told friends of their plan and to 456 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 3: place prop bets beforehand. Clace allegedly even made some bets himself. 457 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 3: Perhaps most shockingly, this scheme lasted more than two years 458 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 3: before Major League Baseball found out. On May nineteenth, twenty 459 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: twenty three, Clay pitching in relief against the New York Mets, 460 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: allegedly informed friends he would throw a pitch faster than 461 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: ninety four point nine to five miles per hour. He did, 462 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: and his accomplices won twenty seven thousand dollars. 463 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean, can you just hit pause there for a 464 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: second to letter so people understand this is like making 465 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: a mockery of the game, but yes, also just fixing 466 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: the game where you're like, hey, I'm going to perform 467 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: differently so that my friends can get hooked up and 468 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: make twenty seven thousand dollars. 469 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: There. It went on for years, and it's not like 470 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: this was like one person. 471 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 472 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: I actually believe this is. 473 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: Probably a lot more widespread than we are being told. 474 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: And part of that is I think that Major League 475 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Baseball and others are going to cover their ables. Is 476 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: they want to make sure that we don't realize just 477 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: how bad it actually was or is well. 478 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: And with individual players and prop bets, they have almost 479 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 3: total control over the outcome of that bet. Yep, And 480 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: so look, the twenty seven thousand dollars is not the 481 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: worst part. Let me give you a few more of 482 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: the facts from the letter. Clace would go on to 483 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 3: blow a save opportunity as the Guardians lost ten to 484 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: nine and extra innings. In June twenty twenty three, Clace 485 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: flung a pitch into the dirt in two separate games, 486 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: well short of the strike zone. While Cleveland fans were 487 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: shouting in frustration, Clace was apparently cashing in. In both games, 488 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: he allegedly sent texts notifying his friends that he would 489 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: throw balls. They placed prop bets on his pitches, winning 490 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: a combined ninety six thousand. 491 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: Dollars unbelievable across. 492 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: Other games from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five, 493 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: Clays and his accomplices are accused of winning at least 494 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: four hundred thousand dollars through fraudulent bets. 495 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of money, folks. And that's 496 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: just one example that got busted. You got to wonder 497 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: how many others are out there, right, I mean, we've 498 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: seen what's interesting. 499 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: I was reading an article the other day. 500 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: I was talking about there's been an uptick in wild pitches. 501 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you. 502 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: Can bet on that, and there's they're just saying there 503 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: is there is certain data that has significantly changed since 504 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: prop betting got introduced nationwide basically you know where everybody 505 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: can bet on these things and has grown. And it's 506 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: like that didn't happen for fifty years of baseball before. 507 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: When we have data or thirty years in football of 508 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: data or whatever it may be, and then all of 509 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, they're like, Wow, this is happening a lot 510 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: more often. This is weird that they would get worse 511 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: at these anomalies when technology and cameras and coaching has 512 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: gotten so much better. You'd think that would actually reduce 513 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: the number of these unique moments that happened in sports, 514 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: and now we're finding out, yeah, it may not be 515 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: unique at all. 516 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: Well, and negative prop bets are one hundred percent within 517 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: the control of an individual player. So if you think 518 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: about it, if you or I were a major league pitcher, 519 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: we may not be able to win a bet that 520 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: my next pitch will be a strike, because you might 521 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: try to throw a strike and fail. 522 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: I could not throw a major league strike. 523 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: But you know what, you and I could win a 524 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: bet on that my metch next pitch will be a ball. 525 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: Because as much like I suck at baseball, but yet 526 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: I can throw the ball into the dirt. I'm quite 527 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: confident I can pitch a ball. I could pitch a 528 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: ball one hundred percent of the time with no deviation, 529 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: and some of the times, and in this instance, you know, 530 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: someone who's good at cheating would not pound it into 531 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: the dirt. They would just a little bit outside the 532 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: strike zone, so you couldn't tell. It looks really obvious 533 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: when you don't even make it to home plate. But 534 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: that problem. Look, you were a Division one tennis player. 535 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they didn't have sure. 536 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: I could double fault on command. 537 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: I could hit a ball long on command one hundred 538 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: percent of the net on command. I could whiff at 539 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: a ball if that was a prop bet and make 540 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: money off of it. 541 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Yes, all of those things you can a hundred. 542 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I want our listeners to know, if 543 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: you also get in Ben's head and screw with him, 544 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: you can make him double fault even when he doesn't 545 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: want to. But that's a totally different He's an infinitely 546 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: better tennis player than I am. But I do have 547 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of ability to taunt him and if 548 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: he gets pissed enough that that that can happen. 549 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: Either that or you're going to get hit with the ball. 550 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: It's one of the two, one of the one of 551 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: the two is gonna happen. Well, one of the two, 552 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: and that would be a great prop bet, by the way. 553 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: Okay, there is that. 554 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: Although the sad thing is when Ben and I play tennis, 555 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 3: we usually play together, so if he's hitting me with 556 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: the ball, he's really doing it wrong because it's the 557 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: one thing to hit your opponent. If you're hitting your teammate, 558 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: good god, you're doing it. 559 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: It's only when you get lackaday'sical can you become a target. 560 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: It's just motivation. It's just a straight up motivation. There. 561 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: Final question on this, I've seen a lot of people 562 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: in sports journalists say, how do you fix this? If 563 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: it's not saying no more prop bets, right, you have 564 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: normal gambling on games, Like I don't know if you 565 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: can even fix this. 566 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: Is that far out of control? 567 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: And is it the job of major league sports to 568 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: police their own or can they be trusted? 569 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: Look, I think there need to be some steps taken 570 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: to fix this. I'm not sure exactly what those steps are, 571 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: and so I'm starting with sending letters to the NBA 572 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball because you've got scandals in both sports. 573 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: And listen, as you know, I'm a die hard Rockets fan. 574 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm a die hard Astros fan. By the way, did 575 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: you happen to see the Rockets last victory against Orlando? No? 576 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: I did not. It was it a beat down? 577 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it was an overtime victory. It was spectacular. Look, 578 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: the Rockets actually were trailing almost the entire regular season, 579 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: and I DVR every Rockets game and so I watched 580 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: this actually, wat By. 581 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: The way, you haven't mentioned my almost rebels in a 582 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: few weeks, and I just want everybody to know. That's 583 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: because we're winning and we're now, what is it ten 584 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: and one? I think that's right. Just want to throw 585 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: that out there, beat the Gators. Just now back to 586 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: your Rockets. But when my team loses one game this year, 587 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: there's two shows in a row that it was brought 588 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: up the other ten weeks, not a peep out of you. 589 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear about that record. Keep going. 590 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: Look, I got to say, as a Texan and beating 591 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: the Gators, I'm kind of like, that's that's that's interesting. 592 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite images when when Florida played 593 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: A and M I tweeted out there was a giant 594 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: barbecue truck in College station that had I think five 595 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: seven foot gators on a rotisseri rotating around being cooked. 596 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: So so, okay, fine, I'm you know, you guys beat 597 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: the Gators. 598 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: That's fine, thank you, Thank you for that moral support there. 599 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I felt that. I felt that tonight. 600 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that the Rockets win against Orlando was 601 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: really sweet because we were not playing great during the 602 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: whole of the game and then it was this huge comeback. 603 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: And Katie, I'm going to say, right now, I think 604 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: the Rockets can win the whole damn thing. 605 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: And oh that's an early season prediction right now. 606 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: Now, look, most seasons I think the Rockets can win 607 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: it all. But listen, last season we got. 608 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: It the way you just said it with me with me, 609 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: like's there's hoping and then there's like the real possibility. 610 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: So you think They're the real deal this. 611 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: Year, I really do. 612 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: They've got a ton of young talent. They're really good. 613 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: Our problem last season is we didn't have a closer. 614 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: We didn't have someone who in the last two minutes 615 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter you could give the ball to 616 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: and he could bring it home. And Katie, I mean, look, 617 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: he's one of the greatest players in history. And in 618 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: the game against Orlando, I mean it was you want 619 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: to talk about cold, he hit two three pointers that 620 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: were just devastating, and and you had Schengu AND's who's 621 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: a great center who played a great game as well. 622 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: But butt on that overtime. By the way, I'm just curious, 623 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: because you're really into this right now. 624 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: I didn't. I just had great joy. 625 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 3: And as I said, I DVR the games and I 626 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: watch them typically late at night at the end of 627 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: the day. But anyway, my point is, it's one thing. 628 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: And I will say I like to I like to 629 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: play poker, but but I've never been in sports betting, 630 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: so so so among vices that that is not one 631 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: that that has impacted me. But I get you know, 632 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: I'll put five bucks in a March Madness pool and 633 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. My picks are almost always wrong. So 634 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever won a March Madness pool, 635 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: but I'll throw in my five. 636 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: You're what we referred to as a charity bracket, and 637 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: we appreciate your service to the charity community. 638 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so I actually I just pick a homer thing. 639 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: I picked Texas teams. I tick teams I like, and 640 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm gonna go with I think my 641 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: final four year or two ago was I think three 642 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: Texas teams in the final four. 643 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that work out too well for you. I'm not 644 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna lie. 645 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, excuse me? Did ole miss when the turnament? 646 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: We do football very well, sir. We do football very well. 647 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: We win natties and golf, baseball and tennis. I'm just yeah, 648 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: I know where I am, I know where we live. 649 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Basketball is not there yet. I'm okay with that, But 650 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: I don't pick them to go to the final four. 651 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: That I can promise you. 652 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 653 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 3: So look on the question of gambling, and by the way, 654 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: you got pro sports, but I'm also concerned about college sports, 655 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: and in any ways, with such a proliferation, you know, 656 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: you look at a small school with a game that's 657 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: not in the headlines and an individual player there you 658 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: know you may have. 659 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: It's one thing. 660 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: For you know, am I that worried about massive superstars 661 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: making millions or tens of millions of dollars of being corrupted? 662 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: Well, yes, because we're. 663 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: Seeing this in the NBA and Major League Baseball. But 664 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: the incentive is less than some you know, nineteen year 665 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: old kid playing at podunk school who has a chance 666 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: to make ten grand uh fixing the game. And so 667 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: I think that is a real challenge. I think the 668 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: leagues can maybe take some steps about it, but it 669 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: would not surprise me to see Congress act. And it's 670 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: one of the reasons I'm just trying to start with saying, Okay, 671 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 3: tell me the facts of how many allegations you're getting 672 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 3: up cheating. What are the facts, Tell me what you know, 673 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 3: Tell me what you know. And then, particularly the more 674 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: serious the problem is. My hope is we may see 675 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: Congress acting a bipartisan way to fix it. 676 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting. Don't forget. 677 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: We do this show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Hit that 678 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 2: subscriber auto Dowoa button on those in between days. Grab 679 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: my podcast, The forty seven Morning update. You'll get the 680 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 2: biggest news coming out of the White House each day 681 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: and the Ben Ferguson podcasts as well, and i'll give 682 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: you the other breaking news of the day. 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