1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for some comic book arcs, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: but it's not that big a deal. 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: Hello. 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: My name is Jase Konzepsi and I'm rosday Night, and 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: welcome back to X Revision, the podcast where we dive 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: We're here at iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you three 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday, plus the summer's 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: biggest movies every Friday. 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: And it's Saturday, it's on Saturday. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: In today's episode, we are breaking down the antagonists of 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: the upcoming Fantastic Four movie. 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Galactus and Silver Surfer. And it might not be the 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Silver Surfer you're thinking of. I remember, uh, oh, what's 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: not norn Rad? Who could that be? 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: And remember, guys, we will be at San Diego Comic 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Hall and you are going to be able to see 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: us a ton of cool events. 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: Don't forget. Oh does It Fly? 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: Panel with the Roddenberry Estate is going to be at 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: twelve thirty on Thursday. We've got two amazing auctions with 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Den of Geek and eBay Live, a Superman one on 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: Thursday at four pm and a Goddilla one Saturday at 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: four pm, and you'll be able to see me and 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Jason around the rest of the night, plus a super 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: fun meet and greet and live episode recording at seven 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: pm at Mission Brewery. And you don't even need SDCC 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: pass to get into that one. 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: That's right. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: But up next, let's talk about Galactys and the Silver Shower. Okay, Rosie, 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: So here's some things that we definitely know about the 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: upcoming Fantastic Four film, the long awaited and much anticipated 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Fantastic four film. All the trailers are out there now. 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: We know and have known for a while that Galactus 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: and the Solar Surf we're going to play key role. 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Galactus appears appears to be the main antagonist of the film. 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Who knows if that's the case. We'll get into that 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: in a bit, if it's some kind of fake out. 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: That said, we should prepare our listeners for just the 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: long history of who these characters are. Try and give 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: us some context of, you know, what we can expect. 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. Should we start with who 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: do you want to start with? 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: Well, let's start. 45 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: I think we should start with Galactus simply because the 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: origin story of Galactus and Silver suffer is really interesting 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: created by Jack Kebby, and Stanley will say that about Galactus. 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: And basically, back in the day picture this, it's nineteen 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: sixty six, it's New York. They would write a comic. 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before, Jason. 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: The Marvel method, the Marvel method, the Marvel method, and. 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: That basically means like Stanley would give some notes and say, hey, 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: maybe this should happen, and then Jack Cubby would come back, 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: he draw it, and sometimes, as we have found out 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: in the last few decades, he would also write the dialogue. 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: So he really was having a very active part. 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: It was a collaborative It was truly a collaborative process. 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: The writer was not solely the writer. The artist was 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: not solely the artist. There was a lot of crossover, 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: and to your point, stan very often was giving just 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: kind of like bare bones. 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: Bounce right. 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: And in this case there was an unexpected character when 64 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: stan asked for it back, which was the Fantastic four. 65 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: It was number forty eight, and there in the middle 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: of the story, as Lee recalled in like a nineteen 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: ninety five interview, was some kind of not flying on 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: a surfboard and he said, I thought Jack, this time, 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: you've gone too far, because they'd agreed on this idea 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: of this kind of cosmic predator of planets. 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: But it was Jack who came up with the idea 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: of the silver surfer and this idea of almost. 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: Like a herald, and he said he decided that the 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: surfer would be on a surfboard because he was tired 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: of drawing space ships. Jack Kirby very known for his 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: incredible technology designs, so that was really an interesting thing 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: that still to this day is causing drama in the 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: comic book community over who was the creator, who wasn't 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: the creator. So that was their kind of origin. Now 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit more about Galactus. I'm a 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: huge Galactus fan. I love the original Galactus trilogy. It's 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: a gorgeous book. 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: Galactus is essentially very. 84 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: What the kids would call nowt opie. He is a 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: giant deity who can just eat a planet. 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: That's kind of ah. 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: He's a big, chunky boy, loves to eat a delicious planet. 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: And he essentially appeared as a huge new style of 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: antagonist for Marvel. 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: And I think this is really where we. 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: Start getting those iconic god level antagonist. If you remember 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: when the MCU was first starting, one of the big 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: issues they had was everyone was like who are your 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: big antagonists? 95 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: Like who? And everyone was thinking of Galactus. 96 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: They were thinking of the ex Men villains, all these 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: people Marvel couldn't use, And that's how we ended up 98 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: getting Thanos, which obviously worked out incredibly beloved Jim stalin creation, 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: but who wasn't necessarily as famous as these villains. So 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: Galactus is basically someone that Jack Kirby was inspired by, 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: and he said that this was kind of this idea 102 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: that he didn't want to make a stereotype, like they 103 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: wanted to create something that was a god that was 104 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: basically beyond reproach, beyond anyone's opinion. And in his way, 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: as Jack Kirby saw it, he was like a mythological person. 106 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: He's kind of like Zeus who fathered Hercules, and he 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: and this sort of a surfer were kind of meant 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: to be these modern legends. And I love that because 109 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: now they really are. And this is also in the 110 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Fantastic four is where you got the Scrolls, the Watcher, 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: the Stranger. So really that kind of expanded out that 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: alien idea. 113 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: It's of Galactus what's fascinating is really cool. 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: I agree, I completely agree. And what I love about 115 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Galactus as an antagonist is, unlike many other big time 116 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: antagonists in the Marvel universe, he's not evil. He's just 117 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: like a part of nature. 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: He's like a hurt Yeah, he's kind of like how 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: we talk about the WATCHO where it's like the watch 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: always has to watch. 121 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Galactus is like, sorry, I just have to eat planets. 122 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: That's how I survive, Like, and that's not part of 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: the universal process. Like there have been storylines where read 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: kills Galactus and it just throws the universe into into chaos. 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: Sorry can you? 126 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 3: And also no, I love it and it's true. 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: And also one of the things about Galactus is it 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: inspired other creators. 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: Like there is a crazy. 131 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: Book from nineteen eighty three calls Supervillain Classics Number one 132 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: Galactus the Origin where it shows you about like Galactus 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: was there at the Big Bang and he accidentally like 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: bonded with the sentience of the universe, and there's kind 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: of and then there's these like primeerial gods and they 136 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: kind of were really playing with this extremely cosmic space. 137 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: And the thing about Galactus that's really interesting is generally 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: he is connected like obviously to the Fantastic Four and 139 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: kind of. 140 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: Is one of the oldest entities in the Marvel. 141 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Universe, which I always think is really fun because the 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: thing about Galactus is that he is like the Silver Surfer, 143 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: you know, the first family is Marvel's first family is 144 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Fantastic Four, and it kind of makes sense that he 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: ends up being one of the oldest villains in the 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: whole cannon. I mean, his powers are pretty extensive if 147 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: we're real, like he can eat planets depending on what 148 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: version he has, like the power Cosmic. Yeah, he can 149 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: like sort of just appear. His size obviously shift throughout 150 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: the comics, which is always kind of funny. But we 151 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: get to see a version of him here where in 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: the trailers. From what we've seen, he is a giant 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: who kind of eats planets, which is what. 154 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: We know of it. 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I think a good marker of how strong he is 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: is his heralds. He makes his heralds, he imbues them 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: with his power cosmic, and they the heralds, getting a 158 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: fraction of his power, basically become one hundred class like 159 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: the highest measurement level hero in the Marvel universe. Like, 160 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, the Silver Surfer as strong as the Hulk 161 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: because Galactus made him that way, like a non super So. 162 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: I think that's that's a really good point. 163 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: And also as well, this is like you were speaking 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: about the Galactus dying and what happens when Galactus dies. 165 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point. 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: So we see one of our favorite writers, Louis Simonson, 167 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: she actually did a Galactus miniseries with John Bashema, and 168 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: Galactus died, right, it was in the late early two thousands, 169 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: and then you basically had to do like books and 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: books about how it impacted the universe. And I think 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: from what we're seeing about this movie, that's right. What 172 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: do you think about the theory? Everyone assumes, like they 173 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: want Franklin, Galactus is going to have to like eat 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: the planet and they're going to have to move to 175 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: a new world. 176 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: What if they don't. 177 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: What if they kill Galactus and then the planet like 178 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: is destroyed by you know, an incursion or by the 179 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: fact that Galactus no longer exists or whatever he was 180 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: trying to stop by eating Earth. 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: That would be actually a very interesting twist. 182 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: It could. It would be. I also think that there 183 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: is a I think there's I think it could be that. 184 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: I think I think there's a possibility that Galac this 185 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: wants Franklin because he needs a successor. He's thinking Franklin 186 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: could become Galactus. And I'm also thinking that maybe, you know, Franklin, 187 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: full power, full maturity is arguably the most powerful human 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: mutant there is. He can create entire universes by. 189 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can try realities, the whole thing. And so 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: maybe it may be the case that. 191 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Franklin creates the six one six and that's how they get. 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: The very good point. 193 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: Actually, wow, I would love to see that. I would 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: love to see that. 195 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: Also, we have to bring it up. You touched on this. 196 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: There is a version of Earth X Franklin who does 197 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: become Galactus. 198 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: Which I think is very interesting. 199 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Also in Secret Wars, Galactus tries to eat battle well, 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: and so like I feel like when Secrets was coming, 201 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: that could definitely be a way to lean into this. Also, 202 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of really interesting because it's been 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,119 Speaker 2: you know, decades, there's been times when like mister Fantastic 204 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: has tried to save Galactus and then had to go 205 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: to that's sick, Yeah, and he's had to go to 206 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: like Intergalactic Court for saving him, and also like Galactus 207 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: has been stuck in the negative zone, which is where 208 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: for a long time we assumed that we would find 209 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: our Fantastic Four who would end up here. And basically 210 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: there was something really interesting in the kind of history 211 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: of the Marvel Universe, very controversial comics by Mark Wade 212 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: from twenty nineteen. I wrote quite extensively about them, But 213 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: there was an interesting thing there where they basically had 214 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: It was Galactus telling the story of the Marvel Universe 215 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: to Franklin Richards as the universe eyes. 216 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: So I wonder if there's some kind of connection. 217 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Here where Galactus and Franklin Richards are doing that thing 218 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: we see in the Hickman Fantastic Four run there is 219 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: like a Galactus Franklin kind of at the end of 220 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: the universe. That's where they end up because they're both 221 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: so powerful. So I think that connection between Galactus and 222 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Franklin is gonna be really interesting. I haven't quite worked 223 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: out exactly what they're gonna do with it. 224 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: I feel like. 225 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: It's quite up in the air, Like is Galactus trying 226 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: to save Franklin? Does Galactus want Franklin because he is 227 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: grown up Franklin. 228 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: Does he want. 229 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: Franklin because he knows Franklin's gonna do some kind of 230 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: terrible baby magic that he can't control and cause a problem. 231 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Or is Galactus just hungry, Like We're not gonna know 232 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: until the movie comes out, But yeah, I mean he's 233 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: a massive, giant being who can literally like chomp on 234 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: a planet. One of the best, most coolest super villains ever, 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: that banger, big helmet that is just so iconic, and yeah, 236 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of connections with him. And if you 237 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: remember from The Not So Beloved or Love and Thunder, 238 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: but we kind of got into the idea of like 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: Eternity and these different huge beings and kind of people 240 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: who live at the end of time or outside time, 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: and Galactus is very connected to those. 242 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: So I think Galactus and Silver Surfer are. 243 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: Going to be a primary part in explaining how and 244 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: why the Fantastic Four end up in our universe. That's 245 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: like my biggest, my biggest thought. But yeah, if you 246 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: are excited about Galactus, obviously we always recommend the original 247 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: Galactus trilogy, which is kind of like five years in 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: to the Fantastic Four run that is so famous by 249 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: Jack and Stan and it's really really cool, really out there. 250 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: But there have been so many incredible Galactus stories throughout 251 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: the years that he's in the Infinity Gauntlet, the Infinity War, 252 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: he in some really really cool Fantastic Four stuff, from 253 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: the early Zeros he was in. 254 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been in basically everything you can imagine. 255 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: Scar Son of Hulk. 256 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: When they first introduced him, they had Galactus and Silver 257 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Surfer as the antagonist, so I think it's gonna be 258 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: a really interesting time. He was dead recently in the 259 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: comics for a little bit, but he is back now, 260 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: resurrected by his heralds, and he has had many heralds, 261 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: which is gonna lead us to our next conversation about 262 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: the Silver Surfer, because the Silver Surfer we know is 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: norin Rad. That's who we saw brought to life by 264 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: Doug Jones and Lawrence Fishburne in the original Fantastic Four 265 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: Rising Silver Surfer movie, which was just such a fun movie. 266 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: Though I have to say, gotta say it, guys, always 267 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: got to get it out of my system. I hate 268 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: Cloud Lactus. I hate Smoky Cloud Lactus. 269 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: I need to see real Galactus guy. 270 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, I want I don't want to see 271 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: a shadow, I don't want to see smoke. 272 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: I want to see the Big Boy. 273 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: But our beautiful, fantastic Silver Surfer in that movie who 274 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: when you go back and watch it actually still looks 275 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: so good. 276 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: I think looks pretty good. Yes, so good. 277 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: And also the Lawrence Fishburn voice. There's so much there 278 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: that's your classic Norrin Rad, who was the original character 279 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: that Jack Kirby created. But the version that we will 280 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: be getting here is Charla Baal, who actually is a 281 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: really old character. She was first introduced in nineteen sixty 282 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: eight Silver Surfer by Stanley and John Bushema, and she 283 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: is basically like the love interest of norm Rad. 284 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: And the general story goes that Galactas said, Hey, I'm 285 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: going to. 286 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: Eat your planet and destroy your I'm gonna La zen 287 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: Lar in the Denev system in the galaxy, and basically 288 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: norrim Rad was like, bro, I don't want you to 289 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: kill my people, kill my wife, kill my And also, 290 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: if you've watched the Surfer cartoon, can't recommend it enough. 291 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: It's great. 292 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: It's on Disney Plus from the nineties. Loads of crazy 293 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: cgi on there. But like, zen La is kind of 294 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: like a Utopia too, like Charli ba is the Empress 295 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: and it's just viby and like everyone's having a. 296 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Great ti exactly, are free like. 297 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: Blue milk or whatever. Everybody's loving it. 298 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: And then Galactus is like, hey, I'm gonna come and 299 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: eat your planet, and norm Rad says, please don't do that. 300 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: I will become your. 301 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: Herald if you spare zen La and allow my lover 302 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: Shalli Bar to exist. So that is the original reason 303 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: that the silver Surfer becomes a silver Surfer. I am 304 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: assuming in this movie we will see that. Charlibal as 305 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: the Empress, was like, I will become your herald. Save 306 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: my lover, norm Rad, save my people. And then basically 307 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 2: what you end up with is a situation where the 308 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: over surfer does always end up rebelling against Galactus. 309 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: He just can't. There comes where he just can't take 310 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: it anymore. 311 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that's gonna happen with Charlibal. Also, 312 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: Charlibal has had the power cosmic in her before, and interestingly, 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: when she has she's able to kind of like create 314 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: vegetation and life and trees, which is what she wanted 315 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: it for, to bring it back, bring life back to 316 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: zen La. So I'm very interested to see We've now 317 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: listened to this in Earth X, where Franklin Richards is Galactus. 318 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: She was transformed into the Silver Surfer by Franklin Richard 319 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: to fight the Celestials. 320 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: So I'm very interested is Earth X gonna kind of 321 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: become our our new ultimates? 322 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: Like this was a nineteen ninety nine limited's comic from 323 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: Jim Krueger Jean Pauleon, and it's basically like a dystopian 324 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: version of the Marvel universe. 325 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: And it's this sort of hilariously was. 326 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: Inspired by like Wizard Magazine asking Alex Ross how to 327 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: make a dystopian version. But I'm interested to see. It's 328 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: very terrogen mists and celestials and stuff that I think 329 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: the Marvel MCU. 330 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: Has kind of given up on. 331 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: But it does also explore the ideas of like vibranium 332 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 2: and read Richard's trying to save the universe and stuff, 333 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see if it seems like maybe 334 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: they're taking from there a little bit, so I think 335 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: we could get our Charli Bar basically has been created 336 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: or made by this version of Galactus. If he is 337 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: adult Franklin, that would also be interesting. Also gets them 338 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: out of an iron lad conundrum which we've always been 339 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: wondering about, which is kind of like the versions where 340 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: Franklin becomes Kang the Kara, you know, and obviously we 341 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: know that the their iteration of Kang has obviously shifted 342 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: and changed. 343 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: You bring up a good point. I want to shout 344 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: out one of our listeners in the discords, who Tyrone 345 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: be Teaching, who put forth the hypothesis that it might 346 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: be Franklin who creates mutants in the main timeline like 347 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: this his work, which I really enjoy that, and I 348 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: do wonder it made be because he mentioned that being 349 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: a kind of reversal of the late nineties heroes reborn paradigm, 350 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: which can't. 351 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: That would be really interesting. 352 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: So after onslaught in like the late nineties, all the 353 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: heroes quote unquote died, but really they went to a 354 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: pocket universe created by Franklin Richards where they restarted their 355 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: lives and careers, which makes me wonder if if Galactus 356 00:19:54,119 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: is adult, Franklin Richards is crazy love this weird like 357 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: sixties techno world that the frank that the FF live 358 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: in is not a pocket universe Richard family, and then 359 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: he is but the paradox is he's being born again 360 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: because his mom's pregnant, and now it's like a time 361 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: paradox that he has to figure out. Because now there's 362 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: that that. 363 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: Is really interesting and I love it. 364 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to uh break and then we'll talk 365 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: more about off theories than how we think this could 366 00:20:31,119 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: all play in to the Fantastic full movie. 367 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Way back now. 368 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: The only the only issue with that's a good one, 369 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: that would be fun. 370 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: The only issue with that is, like, is it too 371 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: many pockets universes now with Superman in the future. 372 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: Okay, look, I'm not gonna lie yet. Do I think 373 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: like we we we talked about this in our. 374 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: News episode, but like when when it broke? But like 375 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: I do wonder if part of the reason they cut 376 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 2: John Malkovich as the Red Ghost is because there was 377 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: like they had had this idea of, oh, we can 378 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 2: put all these different people in Pocket universes, we can 379 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 2: introduce them, we can take them away, and my golly gosh, 380 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: they probably pissed off the Superman got there first. Like 381 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: definitely very intriguing and I'm very interested to see what 382 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: they want what they do with charlih Bal because like 383 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: she has also got a lot of connections with like 384 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: Doctor Doom, with Mephisto, she was actually trapped as like 385 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: a Latverian peasant girl by Mephisto at one point and 386 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: had to marry Doctor Doom, which I love obviously, would 387 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: be incredible to see some of that come in. 388 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 3: Will she just be just the silver surfer? 389 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I'm interested in, is are they 390 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: gonna lean into any of this stuff? 391 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: Are they gonna have her like Alie with the scrolls 392 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: like she did in the comics. 393 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: Is she gonna be a bigger power and a bigger 394 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: character outside of this. 395 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Than just the Herald. 396 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I feel like from what we've 397 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: seen so far of Charlah Ball and those are just trailers. 398 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: So I'm holding my breath as somebody who ragged on 399 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: the Wicked trailers, but now like loves Wicked so much, 400 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: Like I know, a trailer can be changing, that can 401 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: change to a cinema screen. I just I don't feel 402 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: like from what we've seen of Charla Ball, she looks 403 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: like she's gonna be a kind of great, great character. 404 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: It looks like she's a little bit unfinished. 405 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, I don't love the makeup that they've 406 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: the shadow makeup they've kind of given her, though Aaron 407 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: says the recent clips had her looking a bit better, 408 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: so fingers crossed they're still working on her. I would 409 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: stay the movie the finished but you know what, I 410 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: appreciate that animators out there right now who are doing this, 411 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm very I'm very interested because Charli bal. 412 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: Could be a good kind of human, kind of alien like. 413 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: Crossover between the broadness of the Marvel cosmic which can 414 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: be a little bit scary and weird people, but she 415 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: can also just be a person that people can hopefully 416 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: relate to. 417 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm also interested. 418 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: What do you think of the odds that we will 419 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: get any Silver Surfer origin or Challibar origin. We often 420 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: don't get that in the movies. It's just usually they exist. 421 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: I would be interested to know, But the Fantastic Four 422 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: movie is only an hour and fifty five minutes long, 423 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: so I don't know if we'll get that here, or 424 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: maybe we would get it in like an animated thing, 425 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: which is how we got it in the nineties. Yeah, 426 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: or obviously in the comics. 427 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: My guess, as we get hints in there, we don't 428 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: really see it, or she may talk about it, but 429 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: but not we don't actually see it happen. 430 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: I think that's yeah, maybe she like has to sit 431 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: down with Sue. 432 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: He kind of like talks about it. Yeah, I could see. 433 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: That, Rosie tell me so, Okay. We talked about the 434 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: cutting of the Red Ghost, which is fascinating, which tells 435 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: me that he must have not been a tremendously big 436 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: part of this movie if they were able to cut 437 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: him out like that. 438 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, Like, maybe he must have only 439 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: been it for like five ten minutes. 440 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: It feels like they he can't have been in it 441 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: for that long. 442 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: So give us some theories about what you think is 443 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: going to happen in this movie. Okay, you know what 444 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the setup is, baby mine, Let's give you this. 445 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: I love you, Okay, So I think that this. I 446 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: do think this is a real world. Even though I 447 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: love the Pocket Universe idea. I love the idea that 448 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: maybe it's like an early version of battle World that 449 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: Doctor Doom is trying to make and maybe they're stuck 450 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: in it because the retrofuturistic thing does seem odd. And 451 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: I will say I have I have been put on 452 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: your spoiler imus if you don't want to hear this. Guys, 453 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: But the talk coming out of the fan events where 454 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: there is the first thirty minutes of the movie has 455 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 2: been shown spoiler alert. 456 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: Again, we were right that. 457 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: Basically the first I thought this would be most of 458 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: the movie, but apparently the first thirty minutes of the 459 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: movie is them throughout different periods in their career, getting 460 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: too where we meet them where basically they meet. 461 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: Galactus at the end. 462 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: So the fact that Galactus is in there thirty minutes in, 463 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: I think there could be a whole half of this 464 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: movie that. 465 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: We are not really aware of. 466 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, like they've kept from us in the trailers, 467 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: which I think would be really powerful. My main theory 468 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: is just I think it's the one we've all been floating. 469 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: I do think we're going to end up in a 470 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: situation where they destroy this universe, they have to end 471 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: up back on our universe. 472 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: But the Franklin wrinkle I hadn't really seen, and I'm 473 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: very interested to explore how that goes down, because obviously, 474 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: you save your own baby, you love your. 475 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: Baby, but choosing your baby over a whole universe, that 476 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of puts you into a morally gray space. I 477 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: wonder if we see the Fantastic Four kind of become villains, 478 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: or if they do decide to give Franklin to Galactus 479 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: to save their earth and then they come to the 480 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: MCU to try and get him back or fight or 481 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: get the Avengers get people to help them fight against 482 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: Galactus to save their world. That's another option. 483 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm just very. 484 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 2: Interested because I do feel like post Superman, right, I 485 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: feel like we basically ended up in a situation where 486 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: DC said, Hey, you don't have to do the homework. 487 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: You can just come and watch this crazy movie where 488 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: everything happens. 489 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: And I Marvel want and we know that Marvel knows 490 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: that that's an issue with their. 491 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: Own they need Yeah, they need to do it. But 492 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: I will say. 493 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: I do think that by connecting the Fantastic Four to 494 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: the Thunderbolts, they have already kind of eschewed a little 495 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: bit of the appeal of like, oh this is something new, 496 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: it's not completely connected. So I'm really interested to see 497 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: how they play with that. And also Ian producer Ian 498 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: asked a great question, do you think we will see 499 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: norim Rad? Because there was rumors that they cast like 500 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: Lickith Stanfold as him, which I would love to see, 501 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: but I'm guessing I think we could maybe see him 502 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: in a post credit scene or something, but probably more 503 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: of like a name drop or mention than actually seeing to. 504 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: To silver surface. 505 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: Though, I will say, what do you think about now 506 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: we know that she is Charla Ball? I mean, and 507 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: we just got Mephisto in Ironheart and the timing of 508 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: those two things, is Mephisto going to be in this movie? Like? 509 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Are we gonna see him? 510 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: My feeling is no, although Mephisto is connected to uh 511 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: these kids through different storylines, I I I think no, 512 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: But I also have this question in my mind. You 513 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: mentioned the run time and the fact that you know, 514 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: the first half hour against semi spoiler that's out there, 515 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: We're going to see kind of the early history of 516 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: the Fantasy four for the first thirty minutes or so 517 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: of the film, which leaves you wondering, like, is Galactus 518 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: really the like who is the bad guy for most 519 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: of the right because we're not gonna be We're not 520 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna be fighting Galactus for the last for. 521 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: The hour minutes. It could like it now, it could 522 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: be Challa Ball, but that. 523 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Could be very much like the previous Fantastic. 524 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: Four movies, So you kind of made it. 525 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So who is it? Is it? 526 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: Is it Doctor Doom? 527 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: As Aaron is putting in the shot? Is it Doom? 528 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: Is it somebody else? Is the villain of this movie? 529 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 530 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: I think that to do a great Fantastic Four story, 531 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: you need a great Doctor Doom. 532 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: And I do understand that with Robert Downey Jr. That 533 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: is harder. They're paying him like hundreds of millions of. 534 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Dollars, But I'm like, they dropped that bag on him. 535 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: Let's see how he does. 536 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: I think the only way he could pull it off 537 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: is if he does a version where he doesn't you know, 538 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: he never takes off the mask. 539 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: But let's see how it goes. It's all like, I 540 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: think it would make sense that he is. 541 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: The man behind the plan, because that's always what he is. 542 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: And also. 543 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: It would be interesting to see how they played with 544 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: the notion of like, how can Doctor Doom be a 545 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: worse villain than Galactus? 546 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: If you can. 547 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Prove that in a movie like this, you are off 548 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: to a fantastic start with your Fantastic Four stuff. So 549 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: maybe the idea guess there's a version where instead of 550 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: the Beyonder or like Dr Doom is kind of using 551 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: Galactus to make Battle World, maybe by like taking some 552 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: planets hostage. 553 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: I would be interested. 554 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: But I do feel like there is a secret secondary 555 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: part of this movie that they do not know about it, 556 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: and I'm interested to see how that goes down. I 557 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: was also pretty shocked that they put the Franklin Galactus singing, 558 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: because I do feel like that makes the Fantastic Four 559 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: instantly seem if they choose Franklin over Galactus, like they're 560 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: not good heroes, and the idea of the Fantastic Four 561 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: is they are always open and good and incredible until 562 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: Read becomes you know, the Maker, who's the evil version 563 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: of Reid, who I would love to see in these movies. 564 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: By the way, He's so good when he's evil. And 565 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: I do think post the Last of Us, I think 566 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: because I think Post the Last of Us, I think 567 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: they wanted the Pedro can do both. He can be 568 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: your hero, but he can turn and be a villain, 569 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: like Joel was in the finale of the first season 570 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: of the Last of Us. 571 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: Also, so recently, Matt Fraction. 572 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: Massive comeback for him comic book creator behind some of 573 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: your favorite stuff. He Hawkeye, the Kate Bishop Hawkeye very 574 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: heavily based on his. 575 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: Stuff with Aha. 576 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting to see what his book 577 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: tells us about the Fantastic Four, because he just did 578 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: an official prequel book that came out Four First Steps, 579 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: and in it it revealed that the Molloids run by Moleman, 580 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: who we have long assumed Paul Waterhouser is going to 581 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: play in this movie, are no longer kind of underground 582 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: subterranean creatures or mutants. They are humans who have been 583 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: living underground who are oppressed by the people above them. 584 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: Now in the comic, they are mostly white humans who 585 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: are being oppressed by people above them. So I hope 586 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't translate directly, but I do think we are 587 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: going to have this. Maybe the retro futuristic world of 588 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four that they live in is built on 589 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: a secret, and the secret is that people who don't 590 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: fit in, or people who are not perfect to this 591 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: kind of retro futuristic aesthetic have somehow ended up becoming underground. 592 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: I was very interested when I read that it felt 593 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: totally different than anything we've seen. I am putting it 594 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: in the I'm going to be positive about it and 595 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: hope that it goes to a. 596 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: Place that we love and that we're really excited about. 597 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, if you want to check something out, 598 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: check out that prequel comic, because Marvel has long laid 599 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: the paved the way for stuff in comics, and here 600 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: they're actually saying to you like, this is canon to 601 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: what is going to happen to in the movie, which 602 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: I find very interesting. I also hope one of the things, 603 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: I really hope that's lash of a theory, but more 604 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: of just like a vibe not in rad Whenever we've 605 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: seen him with the Laurence Fishground version in the comics, 606 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: in the cartoons, he is always like heartbroken because he 607 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: bathe to save her. I want to see Charli Bald 608 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: be a sad girl. I want to hear her talk 609 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: about norm d. I want to hear her talk about 610 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: her love who she had to leave behind. I hope 611 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: that she gets that much time and that much And I'm. 612 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: Interested as well. There seems like there could be a 613 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: great connection point here between her and two. 614 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: So maybe that's something we're going to see that we 615 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: haven't gotten to explore before. Maybe that will be a 616 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: way that they are able to connect and perhaps get 617 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: into the humanity of the Herald, because the Herald has 618 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: seen so many terrible things in the context of the comics, 619 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: usually when it's nouring that he is very cold, and 620 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: he goes ahead to try and warn people and say, hey, 621 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: Galactus is coming, you need to leave the planet. 622 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: He's going to eat your planet. But that's really all 623 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: he can do. 624 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: So I kind of love how much of a tragic 625 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: figure he is, and I hope that we get some of. 626 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: That with Julia. 627 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you cost Julia Gannah, She's an unbelievable actress. 628 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: Give her some space to be a sad weirdo who 629 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: is kind of in the thrall of this awful cosmic monster. 630 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: Final question for you, mm hmmm. Does every member of 631 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: the Fantastic Four survive Slash make it to the six 632 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: one six Thunderworlds transition? Do they all get there? 633 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: What if? What about this? 634 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: And I know they're going to be so pissedive this 635 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: is what they did, But what if it's just Franklin 636 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: who's in this? 637 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: That would be crazy and like Superman style, and they 638 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 4: basically send him and he's scared and he like does 639 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: something that creates a kind of like you know, we 640 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 4: were talking about that incredible movie, uh, you know Capable. 641 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: That's interesting, that's interesting. 642 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, like maybe the Fantastic Four, they 643 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: send Franklin to save him, but they stay on their 644 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: planet to try and battle Galactus, so they don't leave 645 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: their planet and don't abandon the people who live on it. 646 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: I would be very interested also if I'm giving you 647 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 2: like a most likely to die from this Fantastic Four 648 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: or most likely not to make it. Sorry to Joseph Quinn, 649 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: I love Eddie Munson, but I think Johnny Storm is 650 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: the one who gets left behind. 651 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: He's the one that he's the one that dies the 652 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: most in the comics exactly. 653 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: And also as well, like he is a it's very 654 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 2: easy to bring someone like Johnny back because his powers 655 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: are so crazy. 656 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 3: Also as well, Johnny is and always the kind. 657 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: Of short tempered bad boy, but he will always come 658 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: through at the end to protect his family. So you 659 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: could have a good emotional arc there if he makes 660 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: a sacrifice sacrifice I don't I think that with the 661 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: Bear as successful as it is and how crazy people 662 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: went for that casting with Ebon. I think he survives. 663 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: I think Pedro survives, but Patro's busy, so. 664 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: We don't know. 665 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: He could he could get left behind and then we 666 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 2: could not see him again till Secret Wars when he's 667 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: the maker. 668 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: You know, there's some interesting is very. 669 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: Good with contracts though they understand, you know, how to 670 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: do it. And I think somebody like Pedro probably came 671 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: into the process with a significant amount of leverage so that. 672 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 3: An understanding of what it means. 673 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that whatever he is doing on the side 674 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: will not meaningfully impact what he's doing in the MCU. 675 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: But it's but it's interesting. I've been left wondering, like, God, 676 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: it feels like they shouldn't all get. 677 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 3: Here, right, it feels like maybe they won't. Oh you 678 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: know what. Even crazier thing. 679 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if in the ship is not the 680 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: fantastic for at all, but just like a bunch of 681 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: random people from this universe that they decided to save 682 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 2: or something, and we end up in a situation where 683 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: it's kind of like we have these galactic cosmic refugees 684 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: from this other planet who maybe have a different like 685 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: you know, chemical makeup. We're looking for that way that 686 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: mutants can get into the universe. 687 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 3: Huh, I'm interested. 688 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: You know what, this conversation has actually gone more excited 689 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 2: for the moon, Like it's a huge deal. 690 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: Guys, it's a huge list. 691 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this a big, big deal. 692 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: We have been talking. I was talking about this ten 693 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 3: years ago in the comic. 694 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: Shop before I moved to America, before I started doing 695 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: this as my job. This was the conversation is like, 696 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 2: how do they get the Fantastic Four into the MCU, 697 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: How do they do it? 698 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: What deal do they make? 699 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Is the fact that they made Legion the TV show? 700 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: Does that mean they're going to be allowed to get 701 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: them back? And obviously ultimately what happened was Disney had 702 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: bought Fox and now they have them back. But it 703 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: is kind of crazy, how I guess. Twenty twenty five 704 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: is a sort of numbing year. There is so much 705 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 2: going on that we're dealing with, but it is nice 706 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: to feel kind of excited about the potential of this. 707 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 3: And I'm also definitely buying. 708 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: Carmen has been keeping me updated on the popcorn bucket situation. 709 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm buying. 710 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm buying the one with the fat but read Richards 711 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: that looks like he's got something stretching around the front. 712 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: That shit. 713 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: They were doing, They know what they were doing, and 714 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: I need that in my house. Good Good comparedro Pascal 715 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: for being a fun sport because that shit is crazy. 716 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,479 Speaker 1: Well. On the next episode of Extra Vision, we're sharing 717 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: our instant reactions from the Fantastic Four movie. Cannot wait 718 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: for that. That's for this episode. Thanks for listening. 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