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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcast beautiful Monday afternoon and

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Speaker 1: I attend to practice today that had full pads. I

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Speaker 1: think the entire league officially as of Monday. Obviously some

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Speaker 1: but now every team in the league has practice with

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Speaker 1: of training camp unofficially. First week it's basically O. T

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Speaker 1: A S. Once the pads come on, we got real football.

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Speaker 1: We're often running first week. I mean we are it's

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Speaker 1: August one. I think you know, the Rams play the

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Speaker 1: teams play on the eleventh. We're not that far away, folks,

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Speaker 1: we are not that far away from real football. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I don't expect that to be very close to real

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Speaker 1: But uh but yeah, who's who's not excited for training

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Speaker 1: dive into. Obviously the Middlecoff mail bag. I will put

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Speaker 1: and the news that came out today, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start with I've been watching I can't recommend it enough.

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Speaker 1: The Derek Jeter documentary called The Captain It is. If

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Speaker 1: his one playoff game, it was one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: just quit jobs we've ever seen. DeShawn has played well

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I vividly remember watching the playoff game

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, him and Hopkins going nuts

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Speaker 1: nuts against the Bills. He's Deshaun Watson has been better

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Speaker 1: obviously than Kyler Murray, but factoring in the off the

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Speaker 1: field Lamar Jackson, who is more accomplished regular season player

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Speaker 1: than both. Right, m v P resurrected a franchise. You

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Speaker 1: could say Deshaun kind of did too, even though they

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Speaker 1: were pretty competitive before him. But he's much better in

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Speaker 1: any quarterback Bill Brian had I'm I'm not disputing that,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar has not got paid like those guys, but

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Speaker 1: like unlike DeShawn zero off the field issues, and unlike Kyler,

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Speaker 1: no one and I know people in the Ravens questions

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Speaker 1: how hard he works, how much he cares, how good

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Speaker 1: of a leader is, how much everyone likes him within

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Speaker 1: the building. He's beloved in that building. So he's a

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Speaker 1: positive inside the building. He's a positive outside the building.

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Speaker 1: Zero issues, and he's been awesome on the field. Just

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Speaker 1: for the franchise. I've said over and over, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who's giving advice. Clearly he's not really getting much

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Speaker 1: because under no circumstances should he be participating in these practices.

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Speaker 1: All the guys that want to get paid now hold in.

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Speaker 1: I'm not holding out. Makes no sense. You get fined,

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00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: you can't give it back, show up, stand there on

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Speaker 1: the side. Then you put the pressure on your team.

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Speaker 1: But to me, Lamar, after these two guys got paid,

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, come on, guys, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: This guy every massage therapist in Texas and this other

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Speaker 1: guy won't watch. You gotta put it in this contract

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Speaker 1: to watch film that and those are kind of my cops, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm a better version of Kyler. I've kind of like

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Speaker 1: Deshan like that's that's who. That's the world I'm in,

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Speaker 1: and you're not paying me yet, and we're still arguing

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Speaker 1: over contract. Like the numbers, the number hundred six hundred

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Speaker 1: seventy guaranteed right now. And honestly, if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: make a stink like de Sean, he got to thirty,

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Speaker 1: holm I not getting to thirty. But even if he

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Speaker 1: wants to be a good guy, hey, hundred sixty five

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Speaker 1: million guaranteed deals right out. But I'm not taking another

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Speaker 1: snap in practice, I'm not doing you favors. The older

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Speaker 1: you get, you realize when you're young, you don't have

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Speaker 1: that much leverage. And I gotta just speak for myself.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some people are killers in business. I was always

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Speaker 1: a little like frightened was the wrong word, but I was.

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Speaker 1: You just always you're kind of nervous to fight for

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Speaker 1: yourself when it comes to financially with the company or

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Speaker 1: your bosses or whatever. The older you get, you realize,

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Speaker 1: especially you know once you go through some ship, You're like,

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Speaker 1: if you don't fight, no one's going to like you.

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Speaker 1: Gotta draw a line in the sand every once in

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Speaker 1: a while. If you want to get paid, if you

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Speaker 1: want to get a certain deal, if you're negotiating whatever

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Speaker 1: you're negotiating, whether it's a house, whether it's equity and

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Speaker 1: a deal, whether it's for a salary, Like, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have some balls on you, and sometimes you gotta make

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Speaker 1: decisions that aren't the easiest and make people uncomfortable, including yourself.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I know about Lamar Jackson. He got

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Speaker 1: leverage on his side. They need him and he's earned it.

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Speaker 1: And the other two guys that got paid recently, Tyler

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Speaker 1: into Seawan, Like, what are we even talking about? He

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Speaker 1: on and off the field, he's not comparable to those guys.

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Speaker 1: So I I think he's gonna eventually he cannot go

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Speaker 1: into the season again. I think he's nuts to be

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Speaker 1: participating in practice. We're not talking about ten twent thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. We're talking about a hundred and sixty to

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Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed every penny. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think, how many people you know that own a

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Speaker 1: businesses that if if you told them, like, hey man,

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Speaker 1: you could sell your business for twenty five million dollars,

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Speaker 1: like what they would do? Fifty million dollars eight hundred million,

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy million dollars. You don't have to pay

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Speaker 1: out other employees, just himself, So I I think he's nuts.

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Speaker 1: Um I would stop practicing immediately. The wide receiver market,

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Speaker 1: one thing is clear. These guys are really valuable. Like

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Speaker 1: their market value in the league, in a passing league

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Speaker 1: is a really, really high. And when you get these

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Speaker 1: guys that are dominant, dominant players, they're just gonna get

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Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money. And we saw it with

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Speaker 1: the crew of guys. That's why I said, d K,

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Speaker 1: A J and Deebo who were all in the same

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Speaker 1: draft class, who were all drafted in the second round.

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Speaker 1: UH had earned a ton of money. They were star

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Speaker 1: impact players, all a little different. But those guys you like,

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Speaker 1: this would have been a lot uglier ten, fifteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago. But now you are so dependent on the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position, and those guys having an impact in

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Speaker 1: a passing league, you know, they get a stupid amount

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Speaker 1: of money and they immediately get all of them basically

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Speaker 1: fifty seven fifty eight million dollars. Terry McLaren as well.

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Speaker 1: But these guys, I remember when the older guys signed,

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, wow, that's the going right, Now for de Debo,

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Speaker 1: d K and A J No, it was never the

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Speaker 1: going rate. Those guys that all signed for basically fifteen,

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Speaker 1: you know, to twelve million dollars more and guarantees. Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 1: Tyree Hill, and Dvanta Adams, those guys are on their

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Speaker 1: third contract. Basically, those guys over the life of these

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Speaker 1: guys upcoming deals, maintain Pro Bowl status. For the last

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Speaker 1: three years, Davantae Adams, Tyreek Hill, and Cooper Cup have

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Speaker 1: been three of the best players in the league. That

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Speaker 1: now is the pressure on A J. D K, Terry

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Speaker 1: and Debot every single year once you start making these

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Speaker 1: premium dollars, you need to be a premium player. You

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Speaker 1: need to be a Pro Bowl level player every single year. Now,

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Speaker 1: whether you make the Pro Bowl or not, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna argue semantics, but you better be coming through and

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Speaker 1: be a dependable, dominant player. That is now the pressure

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Speaker 1: on that crew of guys to maintain that level of

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Speaker 1: play because the reason Tyreeke, the reason Davante and Cooper

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Speaker 1: Cup all got six eight to seventy five million dollars

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Speaker 1: guaranteed is because the last three or four years those

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Speaker 1: guys have kicked the ship out of everybody they have dominated,

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Speaker 1: especially Tyreeke and Davanta Adams. And that now is the

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Speaker 1: pressure on these guys like Deebo Samuel, We need you

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Speaker 1: to be a dominant player. It's gonna be harder for

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Speaker 1: DK who's gonna be a quarterback, but for a j Brown,

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Speaker 1: you know, you need to make Jalen Hurts a lot better.

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Speaker 1: We're putting it on you, you you know. And that's just

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Speaker 1: the pressure that comes along with getting paid because in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and just in the salary cap league, you

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Speaker 1: know you need whoever you allocate a decent amount of

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Speaker 1: money to, you need them to live up to their

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Speaker 1: piece of the pie. Right, So if I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: a twelve per cent of my salary cap, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: it for a reason. And it's great when it's Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald or Trent Williams or obviously the top quarterbacks but

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Speaker 1: are just all pro Pro Bowl guy you don't even

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Speaker 1: think about it where it hurts you. Was like, God,

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Speaker 1: we've got this guy or paying him twelve million dollars

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Speaker 1: and he's playing like a two million dollar player. Got

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Speaker 1: we're paying this guy twenty million dollars and he's like

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Speaker 1: a four million dollar player. That's a problem, and that's

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Speaker 1: where it impacts you. And that's where your team can

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Speaker 1: take either steps forward or steps back. And I think

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Speaker 1: all these guys, the expectations on them gonna be sweet,

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Speaker 1: and they're all super talented. I'm a fan of them all.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredible I'd throw Hunter Renfro in there too,

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Speaker 1: even though he makes his guarantees a lot less than

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Speaker 1: all those guys. But those guys should should dominate for

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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future if they're healthy. And this also now

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Speaker 1: speaks to your character, right, like does money change you?

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Speaker 1: Because these guys had something to work with or work for.

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Speaker 1: When you're second round pick, you know, the life of

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Speaker 1: your deal, you make two or three million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: I think Deebo Samuel, who was drafted a lot higher

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Speaker 1: than a J and D K, at the end of

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Speaker 1: this deal, if he hadn't been paid, I think the

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Speaker 1: total is gonna be around four million dollars. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: four million dollars, don't get me wrong, is a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. But when you have the opportunity, he just

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Speaker 1: got fifty eight guaranteed, what's that fourteen? Fifteen x that?

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Speaker 1: So when you have the opportunity to get that you're

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Speaker 1: chasing something, that there's a there's a desire to get

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Speaker 1: something now once you get paid. And this is where

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Speaker 1: the scouting comes in. What's your character, what's your work ethic?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the clip go viral

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Speaker 1: of d k on the on the podium or the

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Speaker 1: dais with Pete and John Schneider and was crying and

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Speaker 1: it was a powerful moment. And it's always cool. You know,

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Speaker 1: you work so hard, you earn it, you get it.

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Speaker 1: And the great players, they don't fall off. They just

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams got a second contract, Boom kept kicking ass. Right,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek got a second contract, Boom kept kicking ass. Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelsey got a second contract, Boom gotta kicking Ask all

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Speaker 1: these guys get third contract? Cooper Cup, same thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: but not that doesn't happen some guys, you know, you

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Speaker 1: get content, and you know, I feel pretty strongly about

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Speaker 1: all these guys, but you just never know. Not every

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Speaker 1: free agent just maintains his great play. But I think

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Speaker 1: if we looked and did a study on it, a

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Speaker 1: lot would have to do with the person. The Forbes valuation.

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Speaker 1: Some of these valuations I think the Cowboys were like

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars. Teams like the Giants and the nine

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Speaker 1: Ers five six million dollars. I don't always agree with him,

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Speaker 1: but I thought he had a good point. Florio, Mike

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Speaker 1: Florio tweeted something out basically said, like, what a stupid exercise,

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Speaker 1: because there there is no valuation. One. They don't come

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Speaker 1: on the open market very often, and when they do

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Speaker 1: they're based off previous numbers. So the starting point if

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Speaker 1: a team hit the open market would be on the Broncos, right,

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Speaker 1: who just went for the biggest sale price in the

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Speaker 1: history of pro sports at four point five five billion. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's just hypothetically say they were able to boot Snyder

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Speaker 1: out and the football team came out well, or the

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Speaker 1: Commanders or whatever the hell they're called. The four point

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Speaker 1: five five from the Broncos actually doesn't parallel to wash

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Speaker 1: their markets much bigger their division. Let's face it is

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Speaker 1: a bigger media market. To me, the bidding on that

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Speaker 1: would started like six. Like you could say the Niners

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Speaker 1: are five on paper, but one they never become available,

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Speaker 1: and if they did, I bet they could fetch seven

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Speaker 1: and a half with ease. Part of it. This is

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Speaker 1: not a normal business model. Think about this. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the I think number last year was right

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Speaker 1: around three hundred million dollars, maybe like two eighty. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say in a couple of years that number is

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Speaker 1: three hundred fifty million dollars every team gets from the media,

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Speaker 1: right deals. Now, those of you that work in finance

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Speaker 1: knows businesses, you know, it's like, depending on your industry,

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Speaker 1: could be three, could be six seven times EBITDA. Some

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Speaker 1: just go, well, just what's your revenue depending on if

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Speaker 1: your industry is a tough industry to get in, it

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Speaker 1: could just be ten ten x revenue. And that's just

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Speaker 1: the media money. Some of these teams, like the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Niners, the Giants, the amount of money they make.

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Speaker 1: I mean their revenue could be six seven eight hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So if you just did it's the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get in. It's exclusive club like Augusta

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Speaker 1: National can let there are a lot of rich people

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Speaker 1: who want to be members and be a part of

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Speaker 1: Augusta National. They say no to the majority of them

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Speaker 1: just because you have money. They don't give a ship.

637
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a special country club, and they only

638
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: allow so many people in the people they want in.

639
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Now it's different because they can kind of pick and

640
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: che like, yeah, I we'll just add another member. In

641
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, there's only the teams, and if the owner

642
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: doesn't want to sell, the team is not available. So

643
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: as we've seen in recent memory, like how many teams

644
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: have really become available in the last decade, not that many,

645
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: three or four. Some of them are death, some of

646
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: them are you know, like Carolina, he kind of get

647
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: he get kicked out, or he kind of was old whatever,

648
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: but it's it's pretty rare. So the numbers now with

649
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: the amount that they also have a c B A.

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00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: So this CBA for the next decade is guaranteeing them

651
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: stupid cash every again just from the media, right steal.

652
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: So these Forbes valuations, I gotta agree with with Florio

653
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: in this one are just kind of irrelevant. They don't matter. Honestly,

654
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: they're a lobal. You know how they say, Zillo it

655
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: is always high. I mean not now, I mean price

656
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: are dropping like a fly. If you've waited, you know,

657
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: like me, I waited for a reason, give it another

658
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: six months. But when when things are rolling, Zillo, you

659
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: look you're like, God, this feels a little high. And

660
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: to me, the four evaluations are low because every single team,

661
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: whatever the number is. If it's three million, they'd get four.

662
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: If it's five million, they'd get seven. Just just a

663
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: reality of the power of the National Football League. Uh,

664
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: just fly around some different headlines. The Steelers gave their kicker,

665
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean Boswell's stud gave him twenty million dollars. Uh.

666
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Nazi Harris heard at practice. Here's the thing with the

667
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Steelers and talking to Cam Hayward. If you listen to

668
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: that interview a couple of weeks ago. If the Steelers

669
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: are gonna be good, they're not. I mean they have

670
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers, but they're gonna be a run first defense team.

671
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: And Mike Tomlin has said it. Cam Hayward said it

672
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be this straw the Urson's drink on offense.

673
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: So they need to keep that guy healthy. I'm not

674
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: overreacting to anything, you know, August one, unless it's like

675
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: a serious injury. But it's just, you know, he's got

676
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: to maintain the whole season, seventeen games. He's a physical back.

677
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: It's hard. You know, it's gonna be very very difficult

678
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: for for players to depend on running backs, I think,

679
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: And if that's your case, like the Niners depend on

680
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: running backs, they have seven of them. You know, it's

681
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: it's one thing. Yeah, we depend on running back, we

682
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: have one. I like having a stable. That's why I'm

683
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: probably against drafting guys in the first round, even though

684
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: I think Nazy Harris is a stud. It's probably like

685
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: a top five talent right now. But whenever you drafted

686
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: in the first round, you end up depending on them.

687
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather just draft random guys like the third, the fourth,

688
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the sixth, and just have four or five of them

689
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: and just run them all into the ground. Let the

690
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: cream rise. The Bears, it feels like there's some trade

691
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: buzz on the dude. Uh Tevin Jenkins, who they drafted

692
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: last year in the second round. Remember you got hurt

693
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: in training camp and he played later in the season

694
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: didn't go well. Uh. The Bears are in shambles. I

695
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I really think they're gonna have the number one overall pick.

696
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: They would be. If I had to put a place

697
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: a bet on what team is going to be the

698
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: worst in the National Football League, it would be the

699
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, which is sad because obviously the draft at

700
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback really hid. Just a couple of years ago,

701
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Kai are out five days with the Rohona. Here's my question.

702
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: If you're Kyler Murray, you're not allowed to come in.

703
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: You got the VID, you're at home, you gotta stay

704
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: away until you test negative. Can you be caught playing

705
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: video games at home even though you got the VID

706
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: and you gotta you got isolated? Are you allowed to

707
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: play video games? Or is that a bad look? Can

708
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: you get on Twitch and play some Call of Duty

709
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: or would that? Would you even get some pushback? Even

710
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: if your home you you're tested positive, you're not allowed

711
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: the facility. Are you allowed to pick up that controller

712
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: and start gaming? I would lean no, And if you

713
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: did it, I'd probably change my user name and stay offline.

714
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: But I think that's part of the fun of this

715
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: modern day gaming is playing online, playing other people. Alvin

716
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Kamara remember at the Pro Bowl there was a club.

717
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: I think a dude was beat up. Alvin Kamara caught

718
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: on tape not ideal. Well, I saw his hearing was

719
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: pushed back sixty days. Well it's August first, so sixty

720
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: days and we were talking like in October so there's

721
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: a chance reading some of the clips, like are you

722
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: sure he's getting suspended this year we saw Deshaun Watson,

723
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. He didn't even get spent until the

724
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: following year. So maybe Alvin Kamara avoids getting in trouble.

725
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: Even though it was on video, we know he was involved,

726
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Like there's no like it could have been it could

727
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: it might have been alleged like there was this New

728
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: Jersey councilman, might have been councilwoman who hit this cyclist

729
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: who was an Uber eats bike rider, hit him, hit

730
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: and run, didn't stop, didn't even call it in for

731
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: six hours. And the headline I saw today was like

732
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: alleged hit and run. No, it's literally on video. It's

733
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: the it's the councilwoman trucking the cyclist, didn't call it

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: in for there's no alleged I hate that alleged. No,

735
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: it's it's on a camera, like that was Alvin Kamara

736
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: in Vegas. You know, like to me, the Deshaun Watson,

737
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no video evidence, whether the video evidence and like

738
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: you know this alleged altercation, it was and run. We

739
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: saw it, Um Chandler Jones, I don't make that big

740
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: a deal with non major injuries in training camp. But

741
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: I do read flag situations that are like undisclosed injury

742
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: has not practiced yet, especially with older players. It's just

743
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: something to monitor. Now. The Patriot guys McDaniels, Ziegler, obviously

744
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: from New England. Now in Vegas, they're gonna be cloak

745
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: and dagger. That's that's where they've learned Belichick. But I

746
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: just got Taylor Jones, and I was someone who said,

747
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: like the forty Niners had been all over Chandler Jones.

748
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: The Bill Sho signed Tandler Jones said, given von Miller

749
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: all that money, but my buddies in the league were like,

750
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: the one issue is he's kind of been banged up.

751
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: How reliable is he? So it's just that's again I'm biased.

752
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Whenever I've watched Chandler Jones, especially play the Niners, he

753
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: looks like Lawrence Taylor. So maybe I'm I have too

754
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: high of an opinion on Chandler Jones. But when that

755
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: guy is healthy, holy sh it, is he good. But

756
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: he gets injured. The Panthers activated J C. Horne. Remember

757
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: he got injured last year. I think he hurt his foot. Uh,

758
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: he's a stud, so if he's healthy. You remember the

759
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Panthers early on last year they started three and oh,

760
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: and then Darnald kind of fell off the wagon and

761
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: there defense kind of got shittier of the season went on.

762
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: But their defense in theory should be good. They're kind

763
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: of a fascinating team. Who's gonna be a starting quarterback?

764
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Are they going to be competitive or are they just

765
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna suck and Matt Rule gonna get fired. I don't know.

766
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I would probably lean They're probably gonna suck and Matt

767
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Rule is gonna get fired. But if you told me that,

768
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you look up and the Panthers

769
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: are like five and three or five and four, and

770
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: they're kind of frisky, I can believe you. Uh Orlando Brown,

771
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: who Yeah, let's face it. Do the Chiefs want to

772
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: give him a lot of money? Clearly not. They franchise

773
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: tagged him. They like him partly. Sometimes with the tackle

774
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck, like it's hard to upgrade. Remember it.

775
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Last year they tried to sign Trent Williams, and Trent

776
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Williams just came back to the Niners. Like when you're

777
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: always good, you're never drafting high, so you're never gonna

778
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: get one of the sweet tackles, and not that many

779
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: really good ones hit free agency. So in most times,

780
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: like Trent Williams, aren't ailable in traits, So your tackles

781
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: you kind of hope to strike oil maybe in the

782
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: draft in like the second or third round, or I

783
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: don't know, you just hope to inherit one when you

784
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: get the job. I mean, there's not much you can do.

785
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: They kind of got lucky. You remember when Eric Fisher

786
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: retired and they didn't get Trent and they had to

787
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: pivot to get Orlando Brown. But like, let's face it,

788
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: they don't want I don't blame him. I wouldn't give

789
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: this guy like a major, major contract because he's not

790
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: a great pass protector. But it's hard for them to upgrade.

791
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: And I think he knows he's kind of stuck. And

792
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you're Orlando Brown, like let's just say,

793
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, the Chiefs choose not

794
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: to keep him and not franchise him again, like it

795
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: is in his best interest to play really well and

796
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: then have someone overpay it. Because ultimately, like I said,

797
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: not that many tackles hit the open market, and even

798
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: when the average ones do, they get paid. So it

799
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: is in Orlando Brown's best interest to come to camp

800
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: to play well under the franchise tag, which is not

801
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: something he's playing a two million dollars like franchise tag

802
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: for tackles. There's a lot of money. I would guess, like,

803
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, nine million dollars, uh, but that that's

804
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye. Some players you know don't

805
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: handle it as well, and something some you don't even

806
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: notice once the season starts. Okay, let's dive into the

807
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: mail bag at John middlecoff is the Instagram, fire into

808
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: those direct messages and get your question answered here on

809
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: the show mail back question, is there a chance you're

810
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: being a bit harsh on Kyler? I agree with you

811
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: that he's not a good leader and wouldn't count on

812
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: him to make a deep playoff run. Well, I think

813
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: that's uh two pretty good, uh, pretty strong agreements there. However,

814
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: what's the alternative? Most years, he's gonna make them relevant

815
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt, which means more ticket sales for

816
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: the owner for a team that only has made the

817
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: playoffs six times in thirty years. Pretty wild, I think

818
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: he's the best bet to be competitive for the next

819
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: five plus years. See, we don't disagree that his unique

820
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: skill set UH is hard to replica. It's hard to duplicate.

821
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to find another one. So they were they

822
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: were not going to upgrade this offseason, though. I did

823
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: talk to a buddy in the league that was like,

824
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: would it have been crazy to like trade him to

825
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: the Washington football team for three ones this offseason and

826
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: signed like Baker Mayfield just to hold you over for

827
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: a year or Jimmy Garoppolo or something. I was like, yeah,

828
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably what I would have done. But

829
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: let's just assume that was never gonna be an option.

830
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: What was the rush to pay him? I'm with you,

831
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: five pusher, where's he going? He's still had two years

832
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: left on his deal, that's before the franchise tax. So

833
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: what was the rush to give him this contract? Where

834
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: in the contract you were gonna mandate him, you know, study,

835
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: which you ultimately took out? One theory I had. I

836
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: told this to Gottlieb. Is there a chance that they

837
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: put that in knowing that it would leak so they

838
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: could embarrass him, knowing they would ultimately take it out

839
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: and kind of to keep the pressure on him. I

840
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: don't know, that's just this is the theory I had

841
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I had this uh video I did

842
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: on on Instagram. It was like me making fun of

843
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: a bald filter, like asking if I had a bald filter,

844
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: and obviously I didn't, and it went viral, had like

845
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Speaker 1: million people watching it. Still it's still going viral. And

846
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Speaker 1: I have gotten more d m s from like random

847
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: strippers and random people that are like, you look good,

848
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: you so fine, just like my d ms have always

849
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: been pretty consistent, just you know, you guys talking football it. Uh.

850
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I had this chick hit me up for golf partner.

851
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know who these like, I'm taking people leave

852
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Speaker 1: me alone. I'm getting people that would a lot of strippers,

853
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: lots of strippers. What is going on? UM? I just

854
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: want three and out questions. See here's one. I'm passing

855
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: this along from my husband who doesn't have an Instagram. Hey, John,

856
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: mail back question three and out and go low on

857
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: my favorite podcast, keep it up. My buddies and I

858
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: are trying to plan a golf trip within the next year,

859
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: Like Tahoe is top of the list. What courses would

860
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: you recommend places to say there, appreciate your advice. Good question.

861
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: His wife actually has like six thousand followers. She's crushing it.

862
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: I would obviously the golf season and Taho is a

863
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: little shorter, So go in the summer, stay in the

864
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: north or the West shore and play the three truck

865
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Speaker 1: Ee courses Old Greenwood, Gray's Crossing, and I think there's

866
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: one other one. It's easy to just look it up.

867
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Speaker 1: They've got three legitimate public courses that all costs, you know,

868
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: like a hundred fifty dollars. Maybe there's some deal if

869
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: you play all three of them and then just go

870
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: out and boost. Chambers Bay in the summer is incredible.

871
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: It is a bar on the lake. You're literally on

872
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: a dock in the lake having cocktails the bars on

873
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: the water. It's awesome. And there's one other bar, Uh

874
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: what the hell is it called? It has these special

875
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: drinks names escaping me. But it's pretty sweet too. I've

876
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: also were beacons pretty good. My buddy Scotty told me

877
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: to check that out. Uh what was something? Something almost

878
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: at far Hans that's the SF Giants general manager, shout.

879
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out, I'll say in the next podcast.

880
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: Also show recommendation. Apple TV Blackbird, It's like this mystery drama.

881
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: It's good. I just just check it out. Apple Apple

882
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: TV is good. Here's my rankings right now. Apple TV, HBO, Max,

883
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: and Hulu are dramatically better than everyone else. Like Netflix.

884
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: I saw someone obviously they had their you know, quarter

885
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: was really terrible. Do you know that the average like

886
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: Netflix has five x the next biggest streaming like Netflix,

887
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: still crushes in terms of time spent watching. I just

888
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: think the show suck. I can never find anything on there. HBO, Max,

889
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Hulu and Apple are crushing it right now. Maybe Hulu

890
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: benefits from have in the f X contract, but I

891
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: mean it is not part of the game. I had

892
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: a question that I think you would have interesting perspective

893
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: on as an athlete and a scout. You know, I

894
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you an athlete, but I'll take the scout.

895
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm a physical therapist and former D one athlete with

896
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: a lot of opinions about how training rooms should be run.

897
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: Over the years, have you seen many changes in the

898
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: way teams approach preventing injury versus just reacting to them.

899
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: I was also wondering if scouting departments talked to physical

900
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: therapists at college levels in regards to player durability as

901
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: well as how they approach rehab. I feel like trainers

902
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: and physical therapists could give a great insight and would

903
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: be valuable for NFL scouts regarding the dedication players have

904
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: their bodies. I think every scout worth their salt becomes

905
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: friends with a trainer and people in the training room.

906
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: One hundred percent they're talking to the trainers. Uh. One thing,

907
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: someone said this today, Kyle Shanahan is not going to

908
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: practice more than three straight days in pads. So they'll

909
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: do and that that's the mandatory for the league is

910
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: five straight days, then you get an off day. He

911
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: will only do three straight days and then he's gonna

912
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: take an off day or a lighter day, no pads.

913
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: So I think these younger coaches with the GPS s

914
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: and everything have adapted the physicality of the team. Uh. Now,

915
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: whether that's right or wrong, I think all these teams

916
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: have really done made huge strides in terms of monitoring.

917
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Say this for Chip Kelly, even though some of his

918
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: methods on the on the urine and the smoothies were

919
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: kind of stupid, Monitoring the pace of guys. It was

920
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: ahead of its time, and every team now in the

921
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: league is doing that. I know the Warriors do that,

922
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Like they can tell hard you're practicing. So when you

923
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: go I'm tired, will you go like your effort has

924
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: been shitty? But if your effort has been really high

925
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: and you're like I'm tired, then you know, to give

926
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: a guy an off day. Again, I'm just going to

927
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: Niners practice in the off season. I you had like

928
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: an incredible couple of weeks stretch, and Kyle gave him

929
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: the day off and said after practice, like, you know,

930
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: we've seen his usage and his work ethic, like in

931
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: terms of how fast he was playing in practice was

932
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: so high, like he didn't need to do anymore so

933
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: and we didn't want to get him injured and he

934
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: needed earned it. So I think technology, you know, and

935
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm not as close as obviously the people working in

936
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: the league that actually see the data, but I think

937
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: it's played a big, big role. Now Again, I I'm

938
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: of the belief is like you can do preventative measures,

939
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: but like guys are gonna tear labors. Guys are gonna

940
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: tear an a c L maybe with a soft tissue stuff,

941
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: and definitely in football once the pads come on, broken legs,

942
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: broken feet, broken hands, some stuff is unavoidable. It's a

943
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: violent game, a physical game with massive human beings moving

944
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: at rapid speed. But good question, if Trey Lance clearly

945
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: a bus, do you see any scenario where Kyle and

946
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: John keep their job. Obviously they made a huge bet

947
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: on them, But seeing as they've made deep runs in

948
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs before, Lance and clearly have shown the expertise

949
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: in building and fielding a competitive team. As a Niner fan,

950
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to restart and get rid of Kyle

951
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: just because they made a bad call. They're not going anywhere.

952
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: Jed Jork is not getting rid of those two guys

953
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: now the tray Lance for him to be a quote

954
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: unquote bus would have to be pretty bad. Like, let's

955
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: face it, Jimmy Garoppolo has been an up and down

956
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: roller coaster and they have won four playoff games in

957
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: two years or three years, four playoff games four that's

958
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of playoff wins. And we're leading in the

959
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: NFC Championship Game and we're leading in the Super Bowl.

960
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: So the Niners are not upgrading on Kyle jan Let's

961
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: say tray Lances a bus fire Cash Shannon for who

962
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: for Brian Aball? You know what are we doing? Like? No, No,

963
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: those guys. As long as Kyle wants to keep the

964
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: job for the foreseeable future, he's good. Now. He would

965
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: take a lot of ship, you know, on the outside

966
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: from fans and people of trail ants. If Tray Lance

967
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: is worse than Jimmy Garoppolo, he'd be pretty bad, you know,

968
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Garoppolo and Mike Sandos. Thing was viewed as

969
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: like I think the seventeenth the best quarterback, sixteenth best quarterback? No,

970
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: not I mail back question. I'm a big Packers fan,

971
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: born and raised in Milwaukee. One of the flaws of

972
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Rogers throughout the year is the lack of trust he's

973
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: shown in young receivers. One bad drop and he may

974
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: not look that way again with his recent public comments

975
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: of how fourth round pick Romeo DoBeS Dobbs is standing

976
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: out in camp. I didn't see that. Do you see

977
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: a shift in the typical Roger's mentality with the departure Davante.

978
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: He'll obviously have some more trust, He'll have to have

979
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: some more trust, but could also see La Fleur going

980
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: run heavy and limited passes. The bets like Lazard, Cobb

981
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: and Tanyan interested to hear your thoughts well, part of

982
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: its supply and demand. Right Historically when Rogers, let's use

983
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: the last one. When he got Davante, Remember those first

984
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of years were tough. Well, if memory serves me correct,

985
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: they had Jordy, They probably still had Greg Jennings then,

986
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: and they had James Jones. Maybe Greg Jennings was gone

987
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: by then, or maybe it was his last year so

988
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: he was loaded. And then by the time DeVante came in,

989
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: Jordi was humming and like James Jones was on his

990
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: way up. Well, right now, what are his choices? You know,

991
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: it's easy to not look their way when you can

992
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: just throw it at Davante every single play with him

993
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: being gone, like he's gonna have to throw it, whether

994
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: his fourth round pick, whether it's Watson. You know, Sammy

995
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: Watkins gets hurt all the time. Cops Old. I know

996
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: he said Lazard's the future Hall of Famer, but we

997
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: all know he was being a little facetious there. I

998
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I also think it's just supplying to man. He has

999
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: no choice. It's easy for Brady to not throw it

1000
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: at nikkil Harry when he's throwing it to Gronk and Edelman.

1001
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: But you take away a couple of those guys, he's

1002
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: got to throw it to him. And I'm with you.

1003
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: Their game plan is going to be pretty simple. They're

1004
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a dominant running team because those running backs

1005
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: are good, and their defense should be pretty good. Now

1006
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: they have Aaron Rodgers who is in the peak of

1007
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: his powers multiple time back to back m v P,

1008
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: so your passing games should still be pretty good, but

1009
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be hard to be his potent without

1010
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Davantae Adams, I mean Dvante Adams, a Hall of Fame

1011
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: level player. So, and they just have a lot of

1012
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: question marks. These guys are old, unproven, or injury prone.

1013
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible for the Lions to win

1014
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: nine games? They have a top ten O line and

1015
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: their defense has improved under Aaron Glenn and we play

1016
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: a soft schedule with bad quarterbacks. Would it be possible

1017
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: for them to make a run? Um? I have a

1018
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: hard time seeing it. With Jared goff I, I really do.

1019
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams McVeigh is a dynamic play caller,

1020
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean Dan Campbell. I'm sorry, I'm not super locked

1021
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: into the to the to the Lions? Is Dan Campbell

1022
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: still calling place? I remember he did the second half

1023
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: of last year. Uh, I'm your defense could be more

1024
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: competitive the division the Bears are gonna stink, Vikings should

1025
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: be better, and the Packers like, what are you gonna do?

1026
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: Be the Packers? So uh, I'll be honest. No, maybe

1027
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: it could be a lot more competitive and a lot

1028
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: better and be like six wins and just be trending

1029
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: in the right direction. I just don't let your quarterback player.

1030
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Lifelong Seattle fan, but as times are changing, with players

1031
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: and coaches moving around so much, I find myself rooting

1032
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: for certain guys more than the team. Now, with everyone

1033
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: calling for Pete and John's head in Seattle, is it

1034
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: crazy to think that the problem might be more to

1035
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: be with Pete rather than John. Feels like early in

1036
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: the earlier days we were hitting on draft picks left

1037
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: and right Bobby Sherm Russ. But as Pete got bigger

1038
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: and got more control, the team started to go down

1039
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: in the player personnel department. Is it crazy to say

1040
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: that Pete should go and John should stay well, Pete's

1041
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: Ben the boss the entire time, so Pete was the

1042
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: ultimate decision maker. And early on in those drafts, you know,

1043
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: Pete was fresh out of college, so he knew those

1044
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: guys really, really well. And you're right, they hit on

1045
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: a couple back to back drafts that set them up

1046
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: for the next five six years. And most importantly they

1047
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: hit on Russ, which was John Schneider. John Snyder pound

1048
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: of the table for him, convinced Pete. I don't think,

1049
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, if Pete loses his job after this season,

1050
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: that you have to fire John Schnyder. I think he's

1051
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: earned his career resume. You know, even before he got here,

1052
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: he was well accomplished, highly thought of. Coming from the Packers,

1053
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: I think you could easily justify firing Pete Carroll at

1054
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: seventy seventy one years old, letting John Schneider pick another

1055
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: coach and giving him four or five years to see

1056
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: if he's worth being the GM. He's earned that, right. Yeah,

1057
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to be tied at the hip,

1058
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: so I I would have no problem with doing that. Now.

1059
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Is that what's gonna happen? You know, you follow the team,

1060
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: probably closer than I do. The owner situation, I'm not

1061
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: that well read on it. You know, she's adam at

1062
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: any time that Phil Knight's gonna buy the trail Blazer.

1063
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: She's always throwing out statements. You know. He clearly was

1064
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: very involved and love sports, right, I mean loved sports

1065
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: like Steve Balmer with the Clippers. Uh, you know Paul

1066
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: Allen felt like that with Seattle and the Trailblazers love

1067
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: sports due those daughters. Let's face it, probably not so

1068
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: how they can operate. We just we just don't know.

1069
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: I started listening to you recently, and you're great at

1070
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: what you do and an inspiration in the podcast field.

1071
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: I was wondering why you and Colin don't play fantasy football.

1072
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: It's like being a GM of your own team, especially

1073
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: in Dynasty League, so I think you guys would enjoy it.

1074
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: It could also help give you insight into the masses

1075
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: of fans who do play. I've had a lot of

1076
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: people reach out and say you should talk about it more,

1077
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: and maybe I will try to make an emphasis and

1078
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: pick three or four guys that I love on a

1079
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: given week. But I can't play something that I just

1080
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: do not give a shit about. And I'm not saying

1081
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: that I'm glad everyone plays. I love the interest. I

1082
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of people that do. It's really cool.

1083
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: I just don't hair. And there is no way I

1084
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: could play daily Fantasy. I could never have a team

1085
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: and play a team for the whole year, because what

1086
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: if I draft a guy in the first round and

1087
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: then he tears a c l we three like I.

1088
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't want that, Like I don't. I don't have

1089
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: the time. I mean technically I do at the time,

1090
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't have the energy, and I

1091
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: don't have the care. That's my thing. I just don't care.

1092
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: Even though I honest to God, I respect the hell

1093
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: out of every single person that listens to plays fantasy.

1094
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: I understand that that leads to a passion for the

1095
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: sport that's the biggest in America that obviously I built

1096
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: my life around in terms of financially, It's how I

1097
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: make my money. So but I can't. I can't play

1098
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: just because I just don't care. Now is that a

1099
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: dumb mindset to have? Maybe maybe I'm being ignorant, naive,

1100
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: uh stupid. I dabble in daily Fantasy, daily fantasies is

1101
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: more my speed. I like changing my team. I don't

1102
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: want to be stuck if I draft Cooper Cup and

1103
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: then he's like having a down yere, I don't want

1104
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: to be stuck with him. I'm like, well, I'll take

1105
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: Tyreek this week, or I'll take Debo this week, or

1106
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: I'll take Travis call See this week. I have at options. Um,

1107
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: But I know you guys play because I get a

1108
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: lot of d M s about it. I do. I

1109
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: know it's a passionate, passionate thing for people to do.

1110
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: You seem very confident that Brady is leaving Tampa for

1111
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Miami next season. But why would Brady leave a top

1112
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: five OH line and top five wide receiver corps and

1113
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: just an overall better team as well as leave a

1114
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: much easier conference. Now. I don't necessarily think he's a

1115
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: lot to go to Miami. I just don't think Tom

1116
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: Brady He's either gonna retire or go to the Dolphins.

1117
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: And part of the going to the Dolphins is to

1118
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: get the ownership. I don't think he's going to the

1119
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins because he thinks they'd be some incredible team. I

1120
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: think it would be part of that ownership deal with

1121
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: that Stephen Ross guy that is going to get the

1122
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: team whatever he sells it, right, Who's who's like the

1123
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: number two, who's next in line? That'd be the reason.

1124
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: And the only reason I think that is because literally

1125
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: almost happened this year. I'm not It's not like some

1126
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: theory I have on my own. I'm just basing it

1127
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: on the information Tom Brady was gonna go to Miami

1128
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: with Sean Payne, and like a lot of things in Miami,

1129
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: it failed, but like that was real and he was

1130
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna get ownership. Tom Brady retired this year, so and

1131
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: he's even made some comments like do I think Tom

1132
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: Brady is a lock to play in two three? Hell though,

1133
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: if you would have told me after the season and

1134
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady gonna play for Tampa Bay in two two,

1135
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: I would have sa and then first flit second he

1136
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of didn't. I think it's probably at best he

1137
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: keeps playing. If he does, I think Miami would be

1138
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: an option again, depending what if two is good this

1139
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: year and they make the playoffs. But I'm not making

1140
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: that like this isn't my own theory. I'm just basing

1141
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: it on previous information. Because in what world would he

1142
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: Why would he have left Tampa this year? Their teams

1143
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: way better in Miami, so it made no sense. But

1144
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: he was intrigued because he gets ownership, and how do

1145
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: you turn down get an ownership in an NFL team?

1146
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: Don't blame him. Seeing where Christian Watson is already missing

1147
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: some time at Packers camp due to a knee injury.

1148
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: They're calling minor. Should we be concerned? I think anytime

1149
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: guy has missed time early in practice, especially young players

1150
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: that haven't played, is okay to be concerned? Right if, like,

1151
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, Fletcher Cox missed a couple of days, or

1152
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey or Russell Wilson or Tom Brady or Trent Williams, like, okay,

1153
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen it. If you're a rookie, like,

1154
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not good, especially a rookie. It's not

1155
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: like coming from Alabama or how state. You come from

1156
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: North Dakota State, that's not an easy transition. But listen

1157
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: to your podcast on Spotify for a while. I'm big fan.

1158
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. I've been thinking about starting my own podcast,

1159
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: really just for fun, but it's something I want to

1160
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: put a lot of time and energy into so it's

1161
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: the best that it can be. You got any suggestions

1162
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: on where to even begin, Any advice you can give

1163
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: would be much appreciated. One thing just to start with,

1164
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: and this is a pet peeve of mine, it's got

1165
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: a sound good. So get good equipment. Whenever I hear

1166
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: a podcast and listen, we all if you don't record right,

1167
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: you can make a mistake on a given up zone.

1168
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: But when I when you sound like you're coming through

1169
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: the computer or your mike's terrible, I immediately tune you out,

1170
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I change it. So make sure it

1171
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: sounds good. And then I would just I don't necessarily

1172
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: whether it's sports, business, whatever, you're gonna podcasts, just try

1173
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: to try to be authentic to yourself and then just

1174
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: hopefully naturally through being yourself, you sound different, you know,

1175
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean part of being I think you've got to

1176
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: be unique. Well, most people are unique because they just

1177
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: think for themselves. I think where people get in trouble

1178
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: is they try to copy other people. And there's nothing

1179
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: wrong copying other people. Like big picture, you know, like

1180
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: I copy Colin in the sense of I like business.

1181
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: He likes business. He used a lot of those analogies.

1182
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: That's what I like. Like, I don't like just bland

1183
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: sports talk bores me. I like factoring in financial stuff.

1184
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Why I follow the markets. I follow the real estate market.

1185
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: I like that's what I talked to my friends about.

1186
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: You interest me. So, but like he was the only

1187
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: guy that talks like that. So, but I don't try

1188
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: to emulate everything he does, even though he's a huge inspiration.

1189
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: I just act like and talk like I talk, right, So,

1190
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: just whoever you like listening to and whatever industry if

1191
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about sports, if you're gonna talk about

1192
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: real estate, if you're gonna talk about widgets, I don't

1193
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: know whoever is in that space that you enjoy or

1194
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: look up to or want to be like, copy kind

1195
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: of some of their layout and how they approach it

1196
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: and then be yourself. Like I don't do a lot

1197
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: of interviews here because my mindset is pretty simple. Is

1198
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of big podcasts do interviews. I'm not

1199
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick or Colin or Howard Stern or Rogan, Like

1200
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: it's not I'm not a great interviewer, like but but

1201
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: it's like you can find interviews anywhere, Like you're coming

1202
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: here from me, Now you could argue that if I

1203
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: did more big interviews, maybe the show would be even bigger. Maybe,

1204
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: But like most people that listen to it like it

1205
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: and stay and it's worked out pretty well. But I

1206
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: think I enjoy just having more opinions on everything that's

1207
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: going on instead of letting someone else talk. Now, I

1208
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: enjoyed like Havin, Cam Hayward and Andrew Whitworth was awesome.

1209
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: Like those guys, I'm a Man of the Year and

1210
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: the dudes like a Steeler legend. I I enjoy doing those,

1211
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 1: but I don't do many of them. And I don't

1212
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: do many of them for a reason because I I

1213
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: think a point of my point of difference for this

1214
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: podcast is like you're coming to get my opinions, unfiltered

1215
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: opinions on football and whatever else is going on. But

1216
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: the Witworth and Cam Heyward interviews were cool. Started listening

1217
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: to your podcast. Last question, have been enjoying it after

1218
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: I saw you on Colin's Feet. I'm a baseball player

1219
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: and I love the game and withal and wanted to

1220
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: do well. What do you think that the Major League

1221
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: Baseball can do to gain viewers and helps solve the

1222
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: decline and popularity. I don't have a great answer, And

1223
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking this watching the Derek Jeter documentary Baseball

1224
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and maybe I'm a little nostalgic obviously

1225
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: or eighty four and as I'm becoming a teenager and

1226
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: in my prime of loving sports was the nineties. But

1227
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 1: I felt baseball in the mid nineties and the peak

1228
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan's and the Cowboy Dynasty and Dynasty and

1229
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: Brett Farve was every bit as big as basketball and

1230
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, Barry Bonds, cal Ripken, Ken Griffey Jr. The Yankees.

1231
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: It was. I could name several players on every team,

1232
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: and all the good teams, most of their players. Austin Riley,

1233
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: who I don't watch much Braves if any baseball, clearly

1234
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: is a really good player. And I saw people tweeting

1235
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: about him over the year that he's an m v

1236
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: P type guy got two hundred million dollars today the

1237
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: Braves gave him ten years, two twelve million dollars. And

1238
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: I think most casual sports fans have no clue who

1239
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: he is. None. But you know, I think that's a problem.

1240
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: Like their star best players non Dodgers, Yankees or Red SOX.

1241
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't think most people know, and I don't. I

1242
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: don't have an answer because, like I like watching that

1243
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: Jeter documentary, I'm like, god, baseball felt really cool, felt

1244
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: very important, felt very big, and it just doesn't quite

1245
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: feel like that. The playoffs do, but the regular season doesn't.

1246
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: And I don't have an answer. I really don't. I'm

1247
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: a I'm a huge Giants fan. I honestly this year

1248
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: haven't watched a total of them play nine innings. Now.

1249
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: I've watched some Yankee games and Mets games and Dodger games,

1250
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: but the Giants bore me. I think a lot of

1251
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: teams are boring. You know that. I think analytics is

1252
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: bad for the game bad. Let me rephrase that bad

1253
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: for the consumer, Like I like some action. You're just

1254
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: striking out, hitting home runs and you're starting pictures algo

1255
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: like four or five innings, Like, it's not great. It's

1256
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: not what we want, you know, I mean, we want

1257
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: people want action, and that's what the NFL provides. And

1258
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't have a

1259
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: great answer, but um, they need to try to do

1260
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: something and it might be out of their control, it

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Speaker 1: might part of it is the pace of play in society.

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Speaker 1: We don't have long attention spans anymore. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: you're screwed. I don't I don't know. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a great answer for you. I appreciate everyone listening at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoffe's the Instagram. Talk to everyone soon, godspeed, peace.

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Speaker 1: The volume