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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joe McCormick, and today we're going to be

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Speaker 3: taking a look at the nineteen eighty six film Hands

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Speaker 3: of Steel, which is an Italian Terminator clone that asks

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Speaker 3: the question not just can of cyborg fall in love?

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Speaker 3: But can of cyborg appreciate the finer points of arm wrestling?

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Speaker 4: That's right?

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Speaker 2: This one also known as Vendetta dal futuro I guess

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Speaker 2: Vendetta of the Future. And then I've also seen it

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Speaker 2: credited with another title, the Italian for hands of Stone.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was a working title.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure many did Pietra. Yeah, yeah, why would

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Speaker 3: it be hands of stone? This cyborg definitely does not

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Speaker 3: have stone in him. He has metal in him. We

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Speaker 3: see it close. Now. There was a funny thing about this.

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Speaker 3: You might ask, Okay, is this movie an Italian ripoff

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Speaker 3: of Terminator? And the answer is yes. But it's more

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Speaker 3: than that. It's also, as we've said, it's about love

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Speaker 3: and it's about arm wrestling. But I would say there's

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Speaker 3: a strange quality this movie has, which is that it

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Speaker 3: rips off movies that post date it. So when I

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Speaker 3: was watching, I was thinking, it's not just a ripoff

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Speaker 3: of Terminator, it's also in a way a ripoff of RoboCop,

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Speaker 3: though RoboCop didn't come out until at least a year

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Speaker 3: after this movie was made. And it's also kind of

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Speaker 3: a ripoff of Universal Soldier, which didn't come out until

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Speaker 3: several years after this was made. So actually, it's what's

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Speaker 3: the word for that. It's almost kind of a mystical

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Speaker 3: concept of like the idea that predates the thing from

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Speaker 3: which it is derived.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a holy artifact, this movie.

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Speaker 4: I could.

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Speaker 2: I was also thinking about this when it came out,

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Speaker 2: because I knew that it had this arm wrestling element,

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh, this was probably also influenced by

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Speaker 2: Over the Top, the stallone arm wrestling movie, but that

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Speaker 2: didn't come out till a year after Hands of Steel,

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Speaker 2: so you see a lot of that going on in this. Now,

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Speaker 2: to your point, it does have elements from these other films.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it referred to as a hybrid film or

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Speaker 2: even the ultimate hybrid film, which, on one hand, yes,

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Speaker 2: you do see a lot of borrowing of elements from

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Speaker 2: other films at the time, especially in Italian cinema. But

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Speaker 2: then I also feel like I have to cut a

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Speaker 2: little slack to films like this, because all movies are

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Speaker 2: hybrid movies. You know, they're varying degrees of artfulness of

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Speaker 2: doing it. But yeah, a lot of films came out

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Speaker 2: influenced by Terminator. Not all of them were great, but

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Speaker 2: this one is not bad. I mean I enjoyed it

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Speaker 2: from start to finish. It has some weird choices in it,

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Speaker 2: and it's a shot almost exclusively in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Fact the state motto of Arizona the cyborg state.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Also, one of the things about this one is a

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Speaker 2: that our hero in this is thirty percent human, seventy

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Speaker 2: percent robot, and one hundred percent lethal.

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Speaker 3: He says that in the movie. Remember when there's like

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Speaker 3: the reveal scene. It's a tender sort of love scene.

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Speaker 3: Remember when when Linda is like what are you and

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Speaker 3: he's like, I'm thirty percent human and seventy percent robot.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't say the lethal part, but he's like, got

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Speaker 3: it down to the percentages.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he knows.

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Speaker 3: Is that by weight or by volume.

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Speaker 2: I guess by volume, that's the way I interpreted. I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, like which, like the different limbs and organs missing?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Though we never get a clear picture.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's some flashes of schematics and whatnot, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think they really contain that much information on this premise.

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Speaker 3: I guess now that we've said the thirty percent human

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Speaker 3: seventy percent robot, that's already the elevator pitch from the movie, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: what else is there to say, except well, he's an assassin?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: When is this movie set.

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Speaker 2: It's set in the future of nineteen ninety seven, so

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Speaker 2: a little over a decade into the future. Now are past,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's about a cyborg assassin who rediscovers his

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Speaker 2: humanity and meanwhile, his murderous handlers pursue him across the

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Speaker 2: the wrong hands and of course getting away with his

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Speaker 2: change of heart. You're not supposed to change your heart

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Speaker 2: if you're part of team bad Guy.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Let's hear that trailer audio.

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Speaker 2: The Seed with Mission as directed and don't let there

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Speaker 3: No trillies.

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Speaker 4: No trillies, just follow my orders.

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Speaker 2: He won't play. Seventy percent of my body has been

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Speaker 2: bionically reconstructed, all right, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was

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Speaker 2: instantly intrigued once I once I heard this. This is

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Speaker 2: one I had not seen before. I just finished watching

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Speaker 2: it this morning, and uh, I remember the VHS box

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Speaker 2: this wonderful illustration of our lead character with what really

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Speaker 2: seems to be an arm of steel. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a sci fi extravaganza.

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Speaker 3: So if you watch the credits for this movie, they

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Speaker 3: named the director as somebody named Martin Dolman. Now Martin

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Speaker 3: Dolman is not a real person. That is the the

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Speaker 3: pseudonym the nom de what's the movie version of nomdger

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Speaker 3: Nom de cinema of Italian director Sergio Martino, who is

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Speaker 3: famous for having directed a lot of classic, famous slush,

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Speaker 2: He's noted for having said that while some directors create

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Speaker 2: sparkling wine, he creates soda pop. But at the end

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Speaker 2: a bad sparkling wine. I think that's a fair comparison.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's up for the viewer to

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Speaker 2: know it got the phyzy sensations going for me. But Martino,

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Speaker 2: He's directed all sorts of pictures. He has sixty six

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Speaker 2: credits on IMDb up through twenty twelve, and they include spaghetti, westerns, comedies,

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Speaker 3: I would actually say that this movie is a room

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Speaker 3: temperature hand of Schwep's ginger Ale, which is not necessarily

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Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like it's made from all natural ingredients,

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Speaker 2: though I don't know if there's any high fruitose cornser

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: One picture from Sergio Martino that is and dear to

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Speaker 2: my heart is Screamers from nineteen seventy nine, which we

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Speaker 2: greater detail. I own this one on Blu Ray. I've

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Speaker 2: it was originally titled Island of the Fishmen, but then

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Speaker 2: it was released by Roger Corman in the US with

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Speaker 2: this new title and a new opening sequence featuring Cameron

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Speaker 2: actually directed by Jim way Narski of Chopping Mall Fame.

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Speaker 2: But it's a wonderful film about fish people and treasure

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Speaker 2: and explorers in which a human being does not turn

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think that was the context in which it

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Speaker 3: originally came up. It was like we were talking about

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Speaker 3: movies where the poster or the box and the title

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Speaker 3: like not even close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Screamers as promoted by Corman and company, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: wonderful fish man film, and Martino directed it.

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Speaker 3: Martino also directed a number of Jallo movies. If you're

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Speaker 3: not very familiar with jallo movies. This is a term

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Speaker 3: And so Martino has a number of movies like this.

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Speaker 4: I love the title.

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Speaker 3: I've not seen it, it's been a while, but if

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Speaker 3: members of a Satanic cult. But I think there's a

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, in terms of the writing on Arms of Steel,

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Speaker 2: Martino has story credit, but he shares screenplay credit here

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Speaker 2: with five other people. I'm not going to list them all,

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Speaker 3: Of the writers is named Elizabeth Parker Junior, which, much

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Speaker 3: for Elisa Briganti, who wrote a bunch of well known

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Speaker 2: All right, as far as the cast goes here, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna get to our hero, to our cyborg.

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Speaker 2: But I want to start with the uber villain of

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Speaker 2: by John Saxon, who lived nineteen thirty six through twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: I think when you told me this, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: John Saxon, then it can't be bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He is a legendary American actor, mostly appeared in

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Speaker 2: In this, he's the mastermind who hired the cyborg assassin

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Speaker 2: and then has issues with his job performed. He's very

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Speaker 2: much a corporate suit villain for the most part. In this.

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Speaker 3: You could call this movie a deadly game of cat

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Speaker 3: and mouse that ultimately boils down to a performance review. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but so John Saxon is weird because he's one of

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Speaker 3: those actors who mostly did bad movies. But I do

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Speaker 3: just always kind of perk up when he shows up

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Speaker 3: in a film. I mean, he is in some great

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Speaker 3: he's which you know, of course, is fantastic. That's a classic.

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Speaker 3: He's in Nightmare on Elm Street.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: So he's in some A list films as well. But

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Speaker 3: if you scroll through his like all the B movies

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Speaker 3: he did, you will come across a number of huh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, just just to name a few in addition

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Speaker 2: to the ones you just mentioned. He was in nineteen

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Speaker 2: Prisoners of the Lost Universe, Beverly Hills Cop three, Craven's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is This character was played by Daniel Green,

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Speaker 2: Oh we should. We'll have to save that one for

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Speaker 3: be literally about a teddy Bear. The chorus is Gimme,

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Speaker 3: It's the box from the hell Raiser movies. You should

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Speaker 3: It twice, pleasure and pain indivisible.

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Speaker 2: Peter Howell in this played by Claudio Casanelli, and this one,

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that is sad, and that now explains things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's good in it, as as is Roberto Pisacco,

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Speaker 2: But a constant in this though, no matter which villain

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Speaker 3: I don't even recall if we learned this character's name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has a lot of screen time for

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Speaker 3: He is a bad trucker. This movie has a number

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Speaker 2: Yes, George Eastman speaking of like a treasured trading card

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Speaker 3: you know what, I bet I've probably seen him in

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Speaker 2: It's like any kind of crazy. He didn't always play

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he's an interesting character. He was born Luigi Montefiori.

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Speaker 2: He's sometimes credited under that name, sometimes credited as various

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Speaker 3: Are he is a big. DUDE i think he's Even

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Speaker 3: Oh, WELL i can't remember which one it, is but

435
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 3: It's ugolino And. Ruggieri they're together in the very lowest

436
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 3: layer of, hell those who like Betrayed KEN i, think or,

437
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: something or betrayed betrayed. People it was like the worst

438
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 3: kind of betrayal as imagined By. Dante and they're like

439
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: frozen in ice together right at the bottom of hell

440
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: before you get To satan. Himself and It's Count ugolino

441
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 3: And Archbishop ROUGIERI i, think and one of them is

442
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: just gnawing on the other one's head like it's a. Ham.

443
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah so it's that energy without any of, that without

444
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: any of that. Depth but it's, LIKE i think he's

445
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: supposed to have been a Guy lennon's family who were

446
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: shipwrecked on This greek, island and then he had to eat,

447
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: them and it drew drove him, mad and so now

448
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: he's just a cannibal wild man who kills and eats

449
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: anybody who shows up to. Vacation there he dies at the,

450
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: end and the memorable scene is that he's disemboweled and

451
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: then he pulls out some of his own intestines and

452
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: starts chewing on. Them so, it's you, know it's it's

453
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: a notoriously grizzly. Scene and otherwise it kind OF i,

454
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: guess slow, film but it's one of those where kind

455
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: of Like Texas Chainsaw, masacre where the film quality is

456
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: such that everything feels slightly more real because it feels

457
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: like you're watching a documentary footage or.

458
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: Something.

459
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, EASTMAN i would, say generally exists at the

460
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: nexus of a lot of really gross. Movies.

461
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah they did a sequel, again Titled, absurd and apparently

462
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: the story on this was like they're they're, like, okay

463
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: we made money off of this first. One it was

464
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: actually a, hit so we're going to do a, sequel

465
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: And eastman was, LIKE i don't, know and they're like

466
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: and then and Then JODI a models here's the script

467
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: In eastman's, like, yesh So eastman rewrites it and it's

468
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: essentially A halloween, clone but it has some memorable scenes in,

469
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: it and his character in that is Named, mikos and

470
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: it's a little more pronounced that he has some sort

471
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: of mutant healing. Factor but in that one he doesn't

472
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: have any. Makeup it's just Straight eastman crazy, face WHICH

473
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 2: i think is one of the appeals of character actors Like,

474
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: eastman because in a film that can't really afford any

475
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: kind of special makeup or special makeup, Effects eastman's face

476
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: is the special.

477
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: Effect you.

478
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: Know, oh, YEAH i know what you.

479
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: Mean he was also in nineteen Ninety The Bronx warriors

480
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen after The fall Of New york Blast Fighter Rabid.

481
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 2: Dogs he was in the nineteen eighty Seven Barbarian twins

482
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: Movie The barbarians THAT i haven't seen, yet BUT i

483
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: know you purchased for, Us.

484
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: Joe, oh that's.

485
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: RIGHT i. FORGOT i had. That that came on like

486
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: a double feature disc THAT i got with some OTHER

487
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: b Movie i've. Forgotten now go check in a. Bit but,

488
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: yeah you, KNOW i love my leather Diaper barbarian, movies

489
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: and this appears to be a two diaper.

490
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 2: Affair so one thing THAT i love is that That

491
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: Joe eastman is in all of this just righteous. Garbage

492
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: and yet a number Of Sunday school classes may have

493
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: Glimpsed eastman when they Watched Richard gear As King david

494
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty five's Movie King. David this is the

495
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: one that Had gear and then also Had Edward woodward

496
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: in it As King. Saul but in, it of, course

497
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: it's A King david, movie so you're going to encounter

498
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: at least some flashbacks Of david And. Goliath Who's. Goliath

499
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: It's George.

500
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: Eastman oh, okay, yeah that makes. Sense.

501
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Now eastman worked a lot with The Joe. Diomatto they

502
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: created some against some just really trashy films with each,

503
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: other but not only as an actor For, eastman but

504
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: also as a. Writer it turns out he did attend

505
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: The Italian National Film, school AND i guess he. WAS

506
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: i haven't seen any OF i think any of these later,

507
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: works but he worked mostly as a screenwriter For italian

508
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: television from the early nineteen nineties. Onward, Huh and he

509
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: directed a couple of films as, well or, WELL i

510
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: think he stepped in and did some scenes on a

511
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: couple of, films but there's only one that he wrote and,

512
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: directed and that's a nineteen ninety mad science horror film Titled,

513
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: metamorphosis WHICH i haven't seen it in his. ENTIRETY i

514
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: think that's WHEN i started watching late at night once

515
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: and had to go to sleep.

516
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: Instead and you have not resumed the journey.

517
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: Since, No but NOW i want. To, Now i'm, LIKE

518
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: i want to see what he brought to the table on.

519
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: That but, Yeah George eastman always a treat when he pops.

520
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: Up but ALSO i guess When eastman pops, up you

521
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: also have to question SHOULD i be watching? This let's

522
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: see other. Actors donald O'Brien is in, it Playing Professor,

523
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: ulster a short. Role he was born in nineteen thirty

524
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: as A french. Actor interestingly, enough he played the Character,

525
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: petro WHO i don't really remember from the nineteen eighty

526
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: six film adaptation of The name of The, rose but

527
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: b horror fans probably know him better as The Doctor

528
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: BUTCHER md from nineteen Eighty Zombie, holocaust which was also

529
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: promoted As Doctor BUTCHER.

530
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: MD i am not.

531
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: Familiar, OH i don't Think i've actually seen, it But

532
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm i'm familiar with it by, reputation so it's sort

533
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: of on the, LIST i, guess just BECAUSE i like

534
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: the idea of there being a Doctor BUTCHER. Md but then,

535
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Again butcher's not that uncommon of a last, name so

536
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: there have to be some Doctor butcher MD's out.

537
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: There so we know That George eastman plays the bad

538
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 3: trucker in the, movie but there's also a trucker who

539
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: turns out to be a good, trucker and that is

540
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: the arm wrestling Champion.

541
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Blanco, Yeah blanco seems to be the regional arm wrestling

542
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: champ played by a guy Named Darwin swave who lived

543
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: nineteen forty six through nineteen ninety. Nine American broadway actor

544
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: who played a heavy and a number of notable films

545
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: because he's just kind of like this big bulldog of a.

546
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: Guy he was In Police academy, Six, Heartbreak, Ridge Summer School, Cry,

547
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: wilderness which is a Terrible bigfoot. Movie but he played

548
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: a wrestler In Barton. Fink oh did he Play wallace

549
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: B that he's just credited as being. Wrestler he might

550
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: be the other wrestler In Barton. FINK i don't specifically remember.

551
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 3: Him, Now one of the big connections with this film

552
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: is with the, music because this movie has a score

553
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: By Claudio.

554
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Simonetti, yeah talk about, legends one of the biggest names

555
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: on this picture for, sure notable for his solo work

556
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: but also his work as part Of. Goblin his electronic

557
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: and prog rock scores helped many An italian genre film

558
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: to come to, life oftentimes more so at LEAST i don't.

559
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: KNOW i think many people have come to life more

560
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: than they would have with any other. Music and also

561
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: the work Of semonetti And goblin it ultimately influenced and

562
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: inspired in an entire generation of electronic.

563
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: Artists Seeing goblin in concert is a real, treat And

564
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: i've Seen goblin in concert. Twice these are really good.

565
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: Shows they tended to be sort of split half and

566
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: half between stuff based on movie. Themes they do like

567
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: A i don't know, what felt like a kind of

568
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: weird improvisation based on the score TO tenebrae or or

569
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: one of the Other Dario argento movies that they did

570
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: the score. To those are some of their best. Scores

571
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: but then also there would just be Like italian prog

572
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: rock with shredding synth.

573
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: Saxophone, yeah it's a it's a definite. Sound, again it's

574
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: it's been very. INFLUENTIAL i would say probably some of

575
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: the best scores and the best known scores that he

576
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: worked on Were, Suspiria Deep Red. Tenebray i'm also extremely

577
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: partial to his work On warriors of The, wasteland WHICH

578
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: i mentioned earlier from nineteen eighty. Three but it's AND

579
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: i guess another THING i love About Claudio simonetti And

580
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: goblin is that this is the music that has kind

581
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: of Become halloween. MUSIC i feel like, INCREASINGLY i don't,

582
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: know at least in the CIRCLES i moved, Through like

583
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: if you see A halloween, playlist you're going to get

584
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: some Of semonetti's. Sound AND i think THAT i Love Monster,

585
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: mash BUT i far prefer a great synth.

586
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: Score, yeah me.

587
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: Too so one thing THAT i would like to point

588
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: out about the music in this movie is THAT i

589
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: feel like the score Of hands Of steel is very,

590
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: funny but not because it's, Bad like it's a good

591
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: type of whatever this type of score. IS i, mean

592
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: in some ways it's sort of A terminator score, ripoff

593
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: but it's also got the great Original Claudio simonetti. Magic

594
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: and what's funny about it is the way that it

595
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: sometimes kicks in with a sudden transition or cut in

596
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: what's happening on. Screen so there's one example that you might.

597
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: Recall there's a scene WHERE i think there's no music

598
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: in the background at, all and it's just it's just our,

599
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: protagonist our borg man sort of haggling with a junk

600
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: car dealer about whether or not to get a. Car

601
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: and it's a slow moving. Scene they're just talking about, like, oh,

602
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: yeah i'll give you that car for a give, it

603
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: give it to you for two hundred extra. Bucks and

604
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: he's like, deal, okay no music in the, background very,

605
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: calm and then just slam cuts to him driving on

606
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: the highway and it's, like.

607
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: Digit, YEAH i love.

608
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: It, well let's let's go ahead and see if we

609
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: can GET seth to give us the legal limit on

610
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: The on one of the tracks from this, soundtrack this

611
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: is the that the track Titled Atomic. Arm all, RIGHT

612
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: i have to say if you if you love that

613
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: AND I i loved, it then you can stream or

614
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: buy A seminetti soundtrack For hands Of steel on Band.

615
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Camp it's on, there published Under italy's Rust blade, records

616
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: and you can even get it get a physical version

617
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: on silver. Vinyl and THIS i was, checking this was

618
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: just released last, month so that what. Luck you'd think

619
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: they sponsored, this but they did, not because we did

620
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: not get silver records in.

621
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: Payment how did you find this?

622
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Movie by the, WAY i just wanted Something, italian you,

623
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: Know AND i started looking around AND i wanted something

624
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: that what that wasn't like too.

625
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: Not as awful as some of Those italian horror movies.

626
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Are, yeah OR i didn't WANT i didn't want something

627
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: too boring, either and so this seemed to be Like Dead.

628
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: Center this seemed to be like the Good Punching.

629
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: Zone this is a good, find.

630
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: All, Right SO i guess it's time to start breaking

631
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: into the plot of this.

632
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: BABY i don't know if.

633
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: You had the same ASSOCIATION i did with the very,

634
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: beginning the very beginning of the opening credit, montage because

635
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: WHAT i immediately FELT i was watching at the very

636
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: very beginning before the music, changed was an industrial dystopian

637
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: take on the opening credits Of Twin, peaks though once,

638
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: again this pre Dated Twin.

639
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: Peaks Huh, NO i didn't get The Twin peaks note so,

640
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: much but, yeah it starts setting the stage for some

641
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: sort of near future dystopia some Hell city in the,

642
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: background but would not really go Into Hell city so,

643
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 2: much because most of this seems to take place either

644
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: on the outskirts Of Hell city or more, specifically out In.

645
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Arizona, yeah it's only Hell city for a few minutes

646
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: at the, beginning but, No i'm gonna hammer. It like

647
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: if you watch it. Again at the very, beginning there's this,

648
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: dreamy Almost angelo bottle Of mintee type music sort of

649
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 3: sort of floating along over shots of drab urban alleyways

650
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: flooded with fog and oil refineries just belching smoke and

651
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: flames into the, atmosphere people just generally having a hard.

652
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 3: Time it's showing, you like a lot of people appearing to.

653
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Suffer and then suddenly the soundtrack just shifts into high

654
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: gear from out of. Nowhere the, drums, bass and saxophone come,

655
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: along and it's clear That, nope this is going to

656
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: be a NonStop thrill. Ride this is not a dreamy

657
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: walk through Twin. Peaks one of the funny things we

658
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: see during the opening creditspontage is showing you these scenes from,

659
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: like you, know blasted industrial landscape and a dystopian, city

660
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: but it also keeps showing these posters and banners with

661
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: a slogan that says you have no, future and what

662
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: appears to be the guy who says, that like a

663
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: guy pointing a, finger a guy with a white. BEARD

664
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: i think we're going to find out who this guy

665
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: is in a, minute and it's this dude Named Reverend.

666
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: Moseley BUT i was just, thinking, like how did this

667
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: guy get so popular with the, message like bringing his

668
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: you have no future message to the nation?

669
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: Tonight, YEAH i don't know own IF i don't know

670
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: if something's lost in translation, there or if it's more

671
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: of a situation where there's more to, it like you

672
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: have no future under the current. ADMINISTRATION i think that's

673
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: what it's supposed to.

674
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: BE i think he's, saying like things are, bad you

675
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: need to take control of your. Life BUT i just

676
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: don't think you have no future is a good way

677
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: to message.

678
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: That, NO i MEAN i. DON'T i wouldn't want to

679
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: wear that on a, button.

680
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: Right BUT i guess so we pretty soon meet this,

681
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: guy the old guy with the white. Beard he is

682
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: this guy Named Arthur, Moseley Reverend Arthur, moseley who seems

683
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 3: to be talking about his message seems to be an ecological,

684
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: one like he's talking about pollution and how industry has

685
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 3: destroyed this world and air pollution is killing. People and

686
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: we see him in a headquarters that's set up in

687
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: like A cd, hotel where he's got assistants who are

688
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: helping him out and talking with the police about how

689
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: he needs. Protection and then there's a great piece of

690
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: futuristic technology in here where you See moseley speaking into

691
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: a word processor that takes voice. Dictation so we got

692
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: that on one, Hand moseley and all his friends and

693
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: the police who seem to be, like, whoa you, know

694
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: the people want you. Dead we gotta help protect. You

695
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: and then on the other, hand we Meet Turbo. Lug

696
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: this is the protagonist of the. Film when we first meet,

697
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: him he's driving a red muscle car and he's just

698
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: this gentleman of beef who gets his own high octane.

699
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Soundtrack yet, again one of those, transitions like when it

700
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: cuts to him immediately new music really driving, forward heavy.

701
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Beat, YEAH i mean you got to get that electronic in.

702
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: There you got to have your music be at least

703
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: seventy percent electronic because he's seventy percent.

704
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: Electronics oh that's a good. Point and so we see

705
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: him come into the same hotel Where moseley and his

706
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: people are hanging, out and as he's moving around in the,

707
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: HOTEL i gotta, Say, claudio we know you do great,

708
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: work but some of the music in this sequence in

709
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: particular is as close as you can get to The

710
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: terminator soundtrack without a. Lawsuit it was really on the.

711
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Nose but, anyway we See Daniel, green The gentleman Of,

712
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: beef coming back to his apartment and it seems to

713
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: be on the floor below where the anti pollution guy,

714
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: is and so he's wandering around his. Apartment we also

715
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: see another piece of great future, technology which is the cyborg's,

716
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: watch which is just like a digital, watch BUT i

717
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: guess it's got a calculator on. It maybe this was

718
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: an early time for.

719
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: THAT i.

720
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: GET i mean at the time this was probably a

721
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: super advanced.

722
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: Watch, yeah but it's got like AN lcd. DISPLAY i,

723
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: mean it's really. Special but so we see him in

724
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: his apartment and he's got mustard in his. APARTMENT i

725
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: want to know this is a store mustard at room temperature,

726
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: guy because it's just sitting on the kitchen, table not

727
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: in the, fridge and we watch him take a shirtless,

728
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: nap and we watched the sunlight glinting off of his

729
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: well oiled, body AND i was like shining in beams

730
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: off of his pecks in the side of his. Face

731
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: and then he starts getting visions of faces and. Voices

732
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: right there's This David strathin looking guy who suddenly pops

733
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: up in the cyborg's head and tells him to proceed

734
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: with mission as directed and don't let there be any.

735
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: Mistakes and this PART i found very funny because we

736
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: see the beefy guy begin to obey the, messages like

737
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: he leaves his apartment and he's got these cold dead

738
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: eyes as he's walking up the. Stairs but then you

739
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: also kind of hear that The David strathren looking guy

740
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 3: his voice in the, background still, talking but it's, quieter

741
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: saying like neutralize DID i say? Neutralized neutral? Eyes that's

742
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: part of the. Problem you need to be really firm

743
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: with these. Instructions but so he goes up and he

744
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: does an attack On moseley's. Headquarters. Right he kicks in

745
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: the door and he's clearly there on a deadly.

746
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: Mission, yeah and he takes out like a security guy

747
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: or an assistant an aid with one of the most

748
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: ridiculous martial arts MANEUVERS i have ever. Seen it is

749
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: such a weird attack THAT i have to if you

750
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: haven't seen, IT i have to explain it to. You,

751
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: so if you were to cross your arms on your

752
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: chest like you've been, mummified and then you're to lash

753
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: outward so that your arms close like a pair of,

754
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: scissors presumably around the victim's, head but do so so

755
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: that you are smacking them with the backs of both.

756
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: Hands it's a double.

757
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Backhand, yeah but it's so weird because this can't possibly. Work,

758
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: Like i'm not a martial. Artist, AGAIN i should, stress

759
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: but this doesn't seem like it would be effective even

760
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: if you had cyborg arms of. Steel it's JUST i

761
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: just can't imagine how this would help generate any kind

762
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: of force or even that much. Surprise why do you need?

763
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: Surprise you're a cyborg with arms of?

764
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: Steel?

765
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: Oh who made you the expert on cyborg martial? Arts

766
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: WHAT i would just like to point out is that

767
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: he kills this dude with the arm crossing dance move

768
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: That Elizabeth berkley does In Show.

769
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: Girls, yeah, yeah it. Is it is like.

770
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: THAT i, mean there are some like pro wrestling and

771
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: even martial arts moves that have like a double arm,

772
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: attack LIKE i guess the most one of the most

773
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: famous ones would be the the double ear clap double

774
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: ear slap rather where you, like you, know you slap

775
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: the ears with both aren't with both hands at the same. Time,

776
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: sure and there's like a worked version.

777
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: Of that as.

778
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: Well there's also the Dreaded mongolian, chop which is like

779
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: doing two twin karate chops to like the side of

780
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: the neck or the shoulders at the same. Time and

781
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: those make. Sense they're you, know they have impact to,

782
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: them and you can also, say, well they're you, know

783
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: they're especially with The mongolian. Chop it's a little theatrical

784
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: and maybe surprising to an. Opponent But i've never seen

785
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: anything like. This i've never seen The Paco special, before

786
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 2: AND i don't know If i'll ever see it. Again

787
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: but it's it's beautiful and its.

788
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: Absurdity do we know who did the martial arts choreography

789
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: in this?

790
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: MOVIE i, don't we should we?

791
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: Should, uh Maybe i'll look that. Up after the fact

792
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: that if it's, Interesting i'll report. Back but it's not

793
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: like the fight choreography is bad in this there's some fun,

794
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: stuff especially later in the picture we'll get to in a.

795
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Bed it's just that this was creative to a degree

796
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: that is just. Unbelievable LIKE i applaud it, though you,

797
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: know because he could have just punched them and we

798
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talking about. It he did this ridiculous thing

799
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: and it made the film more joyful, now of.

800
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: Course so he does that move to the, assistant and

801
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 3: then he moves on into the next, room and his

802
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: target is in the next. Room his target is the

803
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: old guy with the, Beard Arthur. Moseley AND i Believe

804
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: Arthur moseley is supposed to be, blind, right so he

805
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: doesn't recognize what he looks, like but he just senses

806
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: his presence and he, says you've come here to kill,

807
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: me haven't. You i'll but you'll never kill the WORK

808
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: i have. Begun well go ahead and do. It and

809
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: So Daniel green starts hearing the voice in his head

810
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: against a neutralize, neutralize and THEN i swear what it

811
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: looks like happens next is that he kicks him in

812
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: the groin to.

813
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: Death, yeah, like oh, yeah and that's. It but, yeah

814
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: you don't see him make any contact with. Him you

815
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: have like a like a point of view from the

816
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: old man of him. Attacking so It, yeah WHEN i watched,

817
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: It i'm, LIKE i, GUESS i guess he kicked him

818
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: in the, groin which is a weird, choice, ESPECIALLY i,

819
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: mean maybe maybe it's in line with someone who does

820
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: that weird hand choppy thing from the previous.

821
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: SCENE i don't.

822
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: Know, now the movie makes clear later on that this

823
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: is not what. Happens it's supposed to be that he

824
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: just punched him really fast in a way that's like

825
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: not humanly, possible but that's not what it looks like at.

826
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: All, Right, yeah so it's weird to watch for.

827
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: Sure but so Cyber lug escapes out the, window he

828
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: escapes into the, sewer and then it's not really a.

829
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: Sewer it's just like a hallway under the street with

830
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: a gauntlet of eternally sparking high voltage cables on each.

831
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: Side and, they at some, POINT i think the police

832
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: look down there and they're, like, no no human being

833
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: could get through. Here that's a. Clue and then we

834
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: see him escape in a futuristic which is just some

835
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: eighties car with extra stuff glued to the back of.

836
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: It it's got some pipes and bars on the on the. Hatch.

837
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean if you can't afford the full free,

838
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: jack this is the way to.

839
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: Go.

840
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: Yeah and then there's one SEQUENCE i really, loved which

841
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: is like he drives into a. Forest it's this pine

842
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: forest that has a sign in front of it that

843
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: says warning acid rain.

844
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 4: Ahead. YEAH i love.

845
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: THIS i love this part as well because you, know

846
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: it brings back headlines from that time period about acid,

847
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: rain and then the idea it's some nice world to be.

848
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Upbuilding you, know this is. Place this is a world

849
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: that's ravaged by pollution that mostly is trying to fight

850
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: and our hero has to drive through a bunch of acid. Rains,

851
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: sadly when he gets to the other, side we don't

852
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: have like that cartoon moment where the car has been

853
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: just melted away to. Nothingness, no but but you do smoking,

854
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: Right you do.

855
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: See it coming Through at one point he's driving through

856
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: it and it's dripping through the ceiling of the into

857
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: the cabin and it's like burning the seat next to.

858
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: Him but he's. FINE i guess wonder why it could.

859
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: Be it's almost as if he's not destructible by the

860
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: normal means of harming a. Man but so, Anyway, yeah

861
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: the acid, rain AND i love also the idea that

862
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: acid rain would be a, constant localized hazard in this.

863
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: World so it's not like there are clouds that float

864
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: around and could rain down acid in multiple. Places it's just,

865
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: like here's one area where the road goes under acid,

866
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: rain and you can put a sign.

867
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: THERE i, like it's very, folkloric, Right it's like The

868
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: Haunted woods or.

869
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Something, Yes humbaba's seven acid. Terrors he takes them off

870
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: one at a time and rains them down on the.

871
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: Car oh and then we also we find out despite

872
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: the fact that it looked like the old Guy mosley

873
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: got killed by the, kick in fact he is still

874
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: alive and they wheel him out on a stretcher and

875
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: they take him to the. Hospital and then we get

876
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: to meet the bad. Guys we go into the belly

877
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: of The. Beast we're in some kind of evil bunker

878
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: where we see The Indoctrination voice, guy you, know Mister,

879
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: neutralize and he is hanging out with round sunglasses guy

880
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: who we mentioned, earlier and they're trying to figure out

881
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: what went wrong with the. Assassination why Was mosley not

882
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: killed like he was supposed to, Be and so they

883
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: start looking up digital files on the cyber lug and

884
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: we find out neutralized guy is Called. Cooper AND i

885
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 3: love these screens they pull. UP i attached a couple

886
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: of SHOTS i took of these. Screens Rob one is

887
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: just a picture Of Daniel green's face and it says

888
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: negative Characteristics Colon. Nunn but we also learn things about.

889
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: Him we learned that his name is his real name

890
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: Is Paco, querak that he's From Page, arizona that his

891
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: instructor was this Guy, cooper who is you, know the mister,

892
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: neutralized the guy talking in his, head that he was

893
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: trained for thirteen months At Fort. Bragg he was tested

894
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: On august. Twelfth and THEN i think they couldn't fit

895
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 3: the rest of the screens they had already cycled through

896
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 3: into this summary. Screen so what was supposed to, say

897
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: like efficiency maximum, maximum negative characteristics, none but instead they

898
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: just shorten that to efficiency Characteristics Colon. Nunn this is

899
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: not good, design. Folks people will be able to pause

900
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: the movie in the. Future, yes, Now Page.

901
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Arizona that is worth noting because it was FILMED a

902
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: lot of it was filmed In, Paige. Arizona so if

903
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: we have any listeners out there who have been To

904
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Page arizona or live In Page, arizona are you listening

905
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: to the show In, Paige arizona right?

906
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: Now let us.

907
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: Know so eventually we Meet John saxon and he's the

908
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 3: big boss of the bad. Guys he Is Maximum suit

909
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: and he's supposed to be some kind of vicious corporate.

910
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: Overlord they're not really. SPECIFIC i think the issue is

911
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 3: that he's an, evil polluting corporate guy And moseley has

912
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: been saying pollution is bad and that can't be. Tolerated

913
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: so he has to kill, him. Right but his name

914
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: is Mister, Turner Francis, turner and he, says, okay we've

915
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: got to Find Paco quorak before THE fbi, does and

916
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: so he sends his guys off to do. That, now

917
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 3: now we cut back To paco on his journey through

918
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: the desert and one of the, things so there's a

919
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: number of. Things he's cruising along The Desert highway in the.

920
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Dark we've seen that he's been through the acid rain.

921
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: Area the acid rain leaked through the ceiling and was

922
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 3: burning the inside of the. Car but also we see

923
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: in his car he has A tv embedded in the.

924
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: Dashboard it's sort of down near the gear, shift which

925
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: is just amazing future car. Design are They are they

926
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: doing that? Now are they making cars that have A

927
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 3: tv in the? Dashboard surely if they, are it's closer

928
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: to the windshield at.

929
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: Least, YEAH i think it's at least higher. UP i

930
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: don't have, one but you see. Him you see cars

931
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: around that have some sort of enormous screen. THERE i

932
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: guess it has like it's maybe supposed to have a

933
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: bunch of road data on. There But i'm BUT i don't.

934
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: Know it looks like A tv to.

935
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: Me sure you can hack it to Watch hands Of

936
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: steel on it while you're supposed to be. DRIVING i,

937
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: mean driving's. Boring you, know you gotta have something to

938
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: pay attention to while you're doing. IT, psa keep your

939
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: eyes on the, road, folks, Dude.

940
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah don't do not watch movies while.

941
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: Driving at least do.

942
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: Not but then we get the car trading SCENE i

943
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: already mentioned earlier with the funny musical transition out of.

944
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: It he trades, CARS i think because he's trying to

945
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 3: throw the people tracking him off the trail and So.

946
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: Paco then he discards the second car that he got

947
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: and he like drives it off a cliff and then

948
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: just starts hoofing it through the. Desert he's just walking

949
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: through the bad lands and eventually comes upon a highway

950
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: motel that's gonna be sort of the home base for

951
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: the rest of the. Movie it's called The Champion's. Oasis

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: as soon as he goes, inside he notices that it

953
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: is a. Mess there are beer bottles all over the.

954
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: Place there is rotten bacon on the counter with earwigs

955
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: crawling around on, it which was a good. Touch AND

956
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: i noticed something else about this. Place it's similar to

957
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: the interiors In Terry gilliam's dystopian Movie, brazil in that

958
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: there are just ducks, everywhere you, know snaking from wall

959
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: to ceiling in every direction for no apparent. Reason THOUGH

960
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: i think In brazil like, that there's supposed to be

961
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: some satirical value to that set choice it like it

962
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: like in a way it symbolizes that this is a

963
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: society that is extremely, complicated but nobody knows how anything

964
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: works or why anything is happening the way it is

965
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: in this, movie it just seems to be, like let's

966
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: make this roadside bar look a little more.

967
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: Futuristic, yeah just throwing some. Ducts you can get some

968
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: ducts at your local hardware, store but and it'll look

969
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: like the. Future and the thing is this is accurate

970
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: because it kind of foretells the office design choice that

971
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: would become fashionable in the decades to, follow where instead

972
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: of having you, know the white tiles covering up your duct,

973
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: work you have exposed duck work so you can just

974
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: WHICH i. MEAN i, Like i've been in a couple

975
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: of offices now that have that design and it is

976
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: kind of neat to stare up and. Wonder. Huh, OKAY

977
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: i see how all the air conditioning. CONNECTS i see

978
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: some weird you, know keys and knobs and, whatnot and

979
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: that ARE i guess supposed to be accessed by. Professionals

980
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: so in a, way, yeah, yeah this this design is.

981
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: Accurate Champions oasis has original. Brickwork yeah, no it actually, doesn't,

982
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: though it's all like wood. Paneling what do you call,

983
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: that like really thin wood paneling that goes over the.

984
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: Walls oh, yeah, yeah it does look like wood. Paneling

985
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: it looks it does look just authentically, gross like they

986
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: found an actual gross bar and they just threw up

987
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: some ducts and started.

988
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: Shooting oh another, THING i took a screen capture of

989
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: this BECAUSE i noticed on the inside of the door

990
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: leading into the champion's oasis Is. Garfield it's just a

991
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: poster Of. Garfield it says have a nice, Day So

992
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: garfield exists in this film's reality. CANON i like. That,

993
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: also really funny detail was the full exchange that is

994
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: the very first meeting of the two main characters of this.

995
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: Movie Janet agrin walks out As paco comes into the,

996
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: place and she, says CAN i help? You he, Says

997
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: i'm looking for a place to. Stay she, says come

998
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: in you ever arm? Wrestle he says, No.

999
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: Well because we find out that is what this community lives.

1000
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: For they are all about the arm. Wrestling it's the only,

1001
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: institution aside from, drinking that is holding everyone.

1002
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: Together that's, Right this humble desert motel is a sort

1003
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 3: of an innocent oasis of arm wrestling in this otherwise

1004
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: messed up. World, now of, course they start arguing over

1005
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: whether he can stay there at the hotel because does

1006
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: he have. Money, no he. DOESN'T i. Think he says

1007
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: he can do, work but she says something cynical about,

1008
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: that and then we cut to some stuff the bad

1009
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: guys are. Doing so the bad guys go and they

1010
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: end up intimidating This si WHO i think helped create

1011
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: cyborgs and there and they're threatening his. Work he's, like

1012
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: do whatever you want to. Me you, can't you, know

1013
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: you won't get information out of me about how to

1014
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: catch this cyborg because you're trying to use cyborgs for.

1015
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: Evil and they're, like, well what IF i do? This

1016
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 3: and they just start smashing his stuff in his lab

1017
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: and he's, like, no my precious. Work so he gives

1018
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: them a. Clue he reveals that maybe the reason That

1019
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: paco did not complete his mission is that he malfunctioned

1020
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: because of memories of his, past his childhood In, arizona

1021
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: and they're, like, oh, great that's what we, need and

1022
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: then they shoot. Him and then it's a double double

1023
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: cross And sunglasses guy Shoots, cooper the main guy who

1024
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: did the indoctrination.

1025
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah which which in a way works as a nice

1026
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: little twist in the. Film it kind of drives home

1027
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: that Ultimately turner is so evil that he's just that everybody's,

1028
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: disposable you, know even the guy that seems to be

1029
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: his second in command here or at least his main

1030
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: guy on the, case and he'll do him in as.

1031
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 2: Well but out of. FILM i suspect that these scenes

1032
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: were shot later in the production After Claudio cassinelli had.

1033
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: Died and you, know so, again this is that situation

1034
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: Where Claudio, Cassinelli i'm, guessing was supposed to be central

1035
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: here and more tied into the ending of the, film

1036
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: but since he died in that tragic, crash they had

1037
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: to write and film around.

1038
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 3: THAT i think that makes. Sense now we go back

1039
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: To paco And, linda the manager of the, oasis and

1040
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: THERE i guess they've already resolved whatever their original conflict,

1041
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 3: was because he's, like it's, okay he's staying there, now

1042
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: and he's, like why did you let me? Stay and

1043
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 3: she gives some backstories she, goes who, knows maybe the

1044
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: memory of the girl who showed up afraid and broke

1045
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: thirteen years, ago lost in nowhere to, stay or maybe

1046
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 3: it's because there's a whole lot of wood out there

1047
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: that needs. Chopping so AND i guess this is the implication, is,

1048
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: look this guy's got big muscly. Arms he can be

1049
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 3: put to good use chopping. Wood and he brings up

1050
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: the question do people still use? WOOD i didn't know

1051
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: people still used? Wood and she says, yes especially since

1052
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: the the ecological movement led By Reverend. Moseley And i'm

1053
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: very confused. Here so it seems that the anti pollution

1054
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: guy is causing people to burn more.

1055
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: Wood, yeah it. Does it does seem. WEIRD i guess

1056
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: they were burning worse things than.

1057
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 3: Wood stop heating your house by burning.

1058
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Tires, Yeah but then also there's a questions like what

1059
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: wood are you about to send him out to chop

1060
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: in the middle Of, arizona in no Age, arizona.

1061
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: No trees anywhere. Around and then when we see, it the,

1062
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: woodpile by the, way it just looks like a giant

1063
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: pile of garbage there, is there's tires and stuff in.

1064
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: It it doesn't seem to be primarily made of, wood

1065
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: though when he's done with the, job we do see

1066
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: it it is mostly. Wood but but of course here's

1067
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: another chance For paco to take his shirt off and

1068
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: get to, work and later we see that he finishes

1069
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: the whole week's work in a single, day so it's

1070
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: Like hercules and The, stables you, know it, Is, yeah

1071
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: And janet is. Astonished she's, like, wow what a. Man

1072
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: and then we also Get John saxon meeting with With

1073
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: sunglasses guy and they talk about this euro hit man

1074
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: that they're going to, hire Who John saxon says is.

1075
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: Infallible they tell, ME i think his name is supposed

1076
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: to Be Peter, howell but it always sounded Like Peter.

1077
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: Hollow and this Is Claudio. Cassanelli, yes this is, it

1078
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 3: this is. Him then there's some. Scenes there's a whole

1079
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: b plot about these agents at THE fbi and scientists

1080
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what was the weapon that was

1081
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: used to Attack. Moseley so they're like asking him about

1082
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: what it. Was he's, like it was small but very

1083
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: hard and there and they don't know what that could.

1084
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: Be and they've got like a computer simulation THAT i

1085
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: think scanned his wound so they can determine what type

1086
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: of object made.

1087
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: It, yeah it's, Weird, yeah that he hit him with

1088
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: something small but very, Hard and of course we were

1089
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: going to find it.

1090
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 4: Out.

1091
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: Increasingly what happened was, is, yeah that he had these

1092
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: flashes of his past and that he pulled the killing.

1093
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: Blow he didn't like put his full might into. It

1094
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: So i'm, like did he punch him with like just

1095
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: a thumb or something? Like maybe what accounts for?

1096
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: This, well, anyway you knew we were going to get

1097
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: to some arm wrestling, Eventually so the first of a

1098
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: couple of arm wrestling sequences is coming. Up this happens

1099
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: because some some rough truck boys come into the desert,

1100
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: oasis The champion's, oasis and they start being aggressive and

1101
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: threatening With linda And, paco and of course this leads

1102
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: to a confrontation Because paco is already protective of of

1103
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: Of linda in her, place and this this leads to

1104
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: an arm wrestling. Challenge the leader of these bad truck

1105
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: guys Is, raoul who is played By George. Eastman And

1106
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: raoul is just constantly talking.

1107
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: Trash, yeah he's just he's just snarling and, leering like

1108
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: he's taller than everybody and so he's he's kind of

1109
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: just looming over everyone and just.

1110
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 4: Just he's just like a.

1111
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: Wolf, yeah he's, wonderful thoroughly, menacing, presence like if he

1112
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: were actually in a RESTAURANT i was, IN i would.

1113
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: Leave, yeah he has some pretty fun lines. Too there's

1114
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 2: one part where he, says anyone know this piece of rat?

1115
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: Dirt so it leads to an arm wrestling challenge that

1116
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 3: he like Insults, paco and Then paco's, Like i'll show

1117
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: you what cyborgs are made, Of and so they all

1118
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: start making bets on who's gonna win the arm. Wrestling they,

1119
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: Say raoul's gonna wipe the floor with this, bum But

1120
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: linda bets a thousand dollars On paco to, win and

1121
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: of Course paco does, win right because he's Got HE'S

1122
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: i don't, know it seems kind of not fair actually

1123
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: that he's like a machine And George eastman is just a.

1124
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: Human BUT i don't, know maybe maybe Since George eastman's

1125
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: like provoked him into, it it's not.

1126
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: Cheating eastman's character does just about everything imaginable to make

1127
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: you not root for, Him so, yeah it's easy to

1128
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: forgive the cyborg cheat.

1129
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah but then of course a big fight breaks

1130
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: out After paco. Wins everybody starts fighting And paco has

1131
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: to has to beat up all the bad, truckers and

1132
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: THEN i realized, That, okay this is Actually terminator Meets.

1133
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: Roadhouse did you think about?

1134
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: That, yeah without the high minded bouncer philosophy that Makes

1135
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: roadhouse so, Great but, yeah it is Very this setting

1136
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: is very, roadhouse and you get a roadhouse style.

1137
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: Slobber.

1138
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: Knocker oh BUT i don't. Know at the end of the,

1139
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: movie there's some philosophizing that's very much on the level

1140
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: of pain don't.

1141
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: Hurt, yeah, yeah that's.

1142
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: True now by this, Point linda is obviously falling in

1143
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: love With. Musselborg he's just walking around with his shirt

1144
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: off all the, time and she's, like, wow you must

1145
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: work out a. Lot he goes eh a. Little and

1146
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: they're setting things up for another big arm wrestling showdown

1147
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: because this time he's got to go up against the

1148
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: real Champ, blanco who is like undefeated arm wrestling, dude

1149
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: and it's going to be in a rattle snake, match

1150
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: which maybe we can explain the situation there in a.

1151
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: Minute But raoul of course tries to cheat here by

1152
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: Luring paco out into the desert to do a good.

1153
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: Deed they say, like, oh some children are trapped in

1154
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 3: a crashed, car and Then paco goes down to try

1155
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: to rescue, them but it's a trap By raoul and his,

1156
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: buddy and they drag him on a tow truck and

1157
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 3: beat him up and leave him for dead in the.

1158
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: Desert but, he of course is a muscle, cyborg and

1159
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: so he survives and escapes and makes it back in

1160
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 3: time for the big.

1161
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: Match, yeah despite having been beaten with metal, Pipes, yeah

1162
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: and left for dead in the. Desert he shows up

1163
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: Like raoul is already already. Boasting he's, like, OH i,

1164
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: GUESS i guess you're a beefy. Man he's too he's

1165
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: too chicken to. Show and then he shows and when

1166
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: we get this fabulous arm wrestling scene Between paco And,

1167
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: blanco and it's it's just so it is over the.

1168
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Top it's more over the top THAN i imagine anything

1169
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: in the movie over the top because again rattlesnakes are.

1170
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: Involved it's a rattlesnake, match and they have this this.

1171
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: Mechanism they have like these little enclosures for, rattlesnakes like

1172
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: see through plastic or plexiglass or something on either. Side

1173
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: and then there's like a, cuff a locking, cuff so

1174
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: if you force your opponent's hand all the way down their,

1175
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: hand their wrist will be locked in this, cuff and

1176
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: that will also open the cage for the, rattlesnake and

1177
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: the rattlesnake will come out and bite, you OR i

1178
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: mean it will bite your. Opponent so it's not just

1179
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: as simple as like there's a there's a basket of

1180
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: rattlesnakes on either. Side, no there's like this whole elaborate.

1181
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: Mechanism they put a lot of thought into making the

1182
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: best possible high stakes rattlesnake arm wrestling.

1183
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: Competition which of the ive writers streamed this?

1184
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 4: UP i think all of? THEM i.

1185
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: THINK i think that's why it's so elaborate that it's

1186
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: almost like, no, no, no, no, no, no you can't just have

1187
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: a basket of, rattlesnakes because we're gonna want real. Rattlesnakes

1188
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna we're gonna need an. Enclosure no, no, no

1189
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: how are you gonna trigger the rattlesnakes to come? Out,

1190
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: well how's the arm gonna be held? There so all

1191
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: these ideas came together and they kept they kept all of.

1192
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: Them this is the convoluted product Of rattlesnake arm wrestling

1193
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: group think.

1194
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: Yes but it's a terrific.

1195
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: SCENE i MEAN i love a good arm wrestling, sequence

1196
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: and you see him in like the in a lot

1197
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: of a lot of, films like there's one In The.

1198
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: Fly. Uh, yeah it's just a primal test of.

1199
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: Strength now, AFTERWARDS i, guess even Though paco, wins he's

1200
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: sort OF i think injured in what's going on OR

1201
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: i don't know if he's injured by what What George

1202
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: eastman did to him earlier or in the in the arm.

1203
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: Wrestling but then we get a scene just straight out a.

1204
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: Terminator it's just like a copied shot where his arm

1205
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: is open and he's working on the machinery underneath the

1206
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: skin which used to metal. Stuff clear terminator. Moment, yeah

1207
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: and this is just the first scene in the MOVIE

1208
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: i think where it's like fully, confirmed like oh, this,

1209
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: yeah he's definitely a real. CYBORG i, MEAN i guess

1210
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: characters have been talking about, it but now you see

1211
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 3: the machine underneath. Him.

1212
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh another important note about the Big rattlesnake arm wrestling

1213
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: event is that he, wins he Gets blanco's wrist into the,

1214
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,959
Speaker 2: cuff the snake comes out to Bite, blanco but then

1215
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: at the last, second our cyborg hero comes in with

1216
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: the karate chop and cuts the head off of The,

1217
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: rattlesnake Saves, blanco saves. Him that'll become important later.

1218
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: On, well but HERE i guess we're into the full

1219
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: the exposition backstory cyborg reveal part of the. Movie so

1220
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: simultaneously we're cutting back and forth between the police figuring

1221
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: out what's going. On one of, them WHO'S i believed

1222
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: a like a police forensic scientist named Doctor, peckinpah come,

1223
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: on folks named doctor peck And, Paw who's, LIKE i

1224
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: think we know what could have caused the uns To

1225
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: Reverend moseley a cyborg fist and they show it on

1226
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: the computer screen where it's a, fist but they're, like

1227
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 3: but no fist is capable of providing that amount of.

1228
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: Strength and then Also paco just directly reveals his backstory To.

1229
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: Linda they have a tender romance where he's, like you,

1230
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: know he's, LIKE i was once a. SOMETHING i don't,

1231
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: know he was a soldier or something like, that and

1232
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: THEN i REMEMBER i was in a crash and THEN

1233
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: i awoke In Reverend moseley's room AND i was supposed

1234
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 3: to kill, him but something stopped, me AND i REALIZED

1235
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: i couldn't be just A. BORG i had to be something.

1236
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: More and he, escapes and of course they talk about.

1237
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: Love he's, like how can you love me knowing THAT

1238
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: i am More borg than? Man and she's, LIKE i

1239
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: care for, You, paco and they kiss and it's just.

1240
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: Beautiful it's, like, like how can you love me knowing

1241
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 2: THAT i am only thirty percent? Man and she's, LIKE

1242
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: i would love you if you were only twenty eight percent.

1243
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 3: MAN i GUESS i got it wrong IF i said

1244
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: he's not More borg than, man because the org is

1245
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: how can you love me Knowing i'm more cyb Than?

1246
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: Org but, anyway she is going to she loves, him

1247
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 3: and she's going to help him escape to The mexican

1248
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: border later tonight because they know he's being hunted by

1249
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: both THE, fbi AND i guess do they know he's

1250
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: also being hunted By John saxon's. PEOPLE i think so.

1251
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, WELL i mean he's been dodging people the whole.

1252
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: Time he has to know that his handlers are coming after, him.

1253
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: Right So John Saxon's henchman track him down with the

1254
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: help of Treacherous George, eastman who has who has given

1255
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: away his, location and so they got guns and helicopters

1256
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 3: and surveillance all around The champion's. Oasis. Uh and then

1257
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 3: we get a great scene where there are like some

1258
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 3: decoys who show up at the hotel who presumably are

1259
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: just trying to get a motel, room but instead it

1260
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: turns out there they are part of this nefarious. Plot

1261
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 3: and just a note on the future fashion, here most

1262
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: of the fashion in this movie is not anything different

1263
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: than like what YOU i, Mean, like they don't have

1264
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: like weird you, know back to the future too style futuristic.

1265
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: Clothing it's just people wearing like flannel and jeans and.

1266
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah it's the hard times version of the.

1267
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: Future for some. Reason this one couple who shows up

1268
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: on a, motorcycle they are like back to the future

1269
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: too style, Stuff like so one is wearing football pads

1270
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: as a vest and the other is wearing see through plastic,

1271
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: shorts like just wearing like two ziplock bags for.

1272
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Pants and the great thing about the female here that's

1273
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: wearing the ziplock bags for pants is it's quickly. Revealed

1274
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: it's a trap and she is a killer cyborg as.

1275
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: Well it is cyborg versus, cyborg and this is this

1276
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: fight scenems pretty.

1277
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: Great, yeah it's it's got it's not that, long but

1278
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: it's it's in a it's in a tight. Spot it's

1279
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: in this hotel. Room we quickly see that she like she's,

1280
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: shot but then she up. Again she's got cyborg, damage

1281
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: she's got killer cyborg. Nails there's a there's a fun

1282
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: bit of fight, choreography and it ends with. Him he

1283
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: ends up putting the rival cyborg in a full nelson

1284
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: and then going from a full nelson to a full head.

1285
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: Rip just twist the head off and we get that

1286
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: wonderful moment that you see in so many of these these,

1287
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: films the films of this, caliber where the head falls

1288
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: onto the floor and then you have that effect where

1289
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: someone has like a false floor around their. Necks so

1290
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: you get that that shot of the decapitated head.

1291
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: Talking It's Ian holman.

1292
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 3: Alien, yeah, yeah except as she except the head is

1293
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: going they will destroy.

1294
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 4: You, yeah that's that's pretty much the. Voice.

1295
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah oh. Yeah and ALSO i love how when she first,

1296
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: announces she first starts trying to kill. Him so she's

1297
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: got like these killer metal nails that she's stabbing in,

1298
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: with and she, SAYS i am the perfect, cyborg AND

1299
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: i have been sent here to kill a. Trader which

1300
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 3: it sounds like she's taken it too. PERSONAL i thought

1301
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: cyborgs were just supposed to to do their. Mission but

1302
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: she does not sound like she is dispassionately executing. Programming

1303
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: she's she's taken it. Personal she's like really mad at this.

1304
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: Guy, WELL i think one of the things to keep

1305
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: in mind is that its early days with, cyborgs as

1306
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: they reveal more later in the. Picture and he's the,

1307
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: best even though he's, flawed even though his humanity is

1308
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: leeching back in like he's the. Best so even though

1309
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: he's very cold at the, BEGINNING i guess this other

1310
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: cyborg is who's still like the second best, cyborg the

1311
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: best thing you could possibly send in to try and kill.

1312
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: Him you, know she's not. Perfect she's clearly got too

1313
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 2: much human emotion wrapped up in this whole killing the opposition.

1314
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: Thing.

1315
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: Right his profile says negative, characteristics, none her says negative

1316
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: characteristics taking it too personal. Exactly but from here it

1317
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 3: basically just goes on into a very long action chase

1318
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: sequence that's Got John sackson's dudes chasing and shooting After

1319
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: linda And Buddy borg there being pursued mercilessly by The.

1320
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 3: Saxonites and oh and there's a great part where while

1321
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 3: they're running around from trying to escape, Them blanco shows,

1322
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 3: up the other you, know the arm wrestling, champ and

1323
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 3: he shows. Up he's a really stand up. Guy he

1324
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 3: just like drives a truck in to help them get.

1325
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: Away, yeah he ends up giving his life to save

1326
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: our hero in this, Film so that's that's pretty.

1327
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 4: Good.

1328
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, meantime, meanwhile you've got sunglasses. Guy and then ULTIMATELY

1329
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,480
Speaker 2: i Think saxon gets in on this, too using shotguns

1330
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: to fire. Rockets like they take a rocket, grenade rocket

1331
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: propel grenade or something and like stick it in the

1332
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: front of the shotgun and then a lot use the

1333
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: shotgun to fire, it.

1334
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 4: Which which ultimately it looks it looks.

1335
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 2: Good i'm just the part of me was, wondering like

1336
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: what that just looks like you stuck like a nerf

1337
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: in the. Shotgun but on the other, hand he does

1338
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: it looks. GOOD i still bought it completely in.

1339
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: Film, now When blanco gets blown, up you think That

1340
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: linda has also been, killed but then it turns out

1341
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: that she. Survived and So musselborg is very upset because

1342
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: he had discovered what love, was but now the one

1343
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 3: person he loved is, dead and so he goes into

1344
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 3: a rage and the soldiers are coming after. Him they

1345
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 3: come after. Him he goes into this old, factory it's

1346
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: like some underground, stuff and they come after him with

1347
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 3: a laser and he kills all of the soldiers who

1348
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: are coming after, him and Then John saxon comes in

1349
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: after him, personally, which, yeah that really seems like something

1350
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 3: that this corporate jerk would. Do i'm going to physically

1351
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 3: personally go in there to shoot at the Guy i'm

1352
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: trying to, get but he picks up the laser and

1353
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 3: is trying to Shoot, paco But, paco of, course bests,

1354
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: him and then he Grabs John saxon and he's like

1355
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 3: holding him by the neck and he, says you thought

1356
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: you could own me by controlling my. Brain but what

1357
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: people like you don't realize is that you don't own

1358
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 3: a man until you control his. Heart and then he

1359
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: literally pulls Out John saxon's.

1360
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: Heart, yeah it's a quality. Kill, yeah it seems like

1361
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: there are some other ones. Too he's doing a lot

1362
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: of head crushing were against the minions before he finally

1363
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: gets To John. Saxon but, yeah then he Finishes John

1364
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: saxon off with a heart Rep.

1365
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh and then we get the Reveal linda is, alive

1366
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 3: and it's a very love conquers all type. Ending she's,

1367
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: like he's in the, factory running around with a gun

1368
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: outside shooting at the, police like just in a. Rage you.

1369
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 3: Know he's in a violent downward spiral because he Thinks

1370
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: linda has been. Killed but then she reveals that she's,

1371
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: alive and she comes in to talk him, down and he's,

1372
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 3: like they won't let me, live and she's, like, yes they.

1373
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: Will she, says, quote they know that you were normal

1374
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 3: before you ended up in that, laboratory and she, says

1375
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 3: and you saved the best part of, you the.

1376
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 4: Soul.

1377
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah the soul managed to bleede its way back

1378
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: into the whole cyborg equation and turned to the evil

1379
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: scheme on its.

1380
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 3: Head but THEN i would, say so it is mostly

1381
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 3: a love conquers all, ending except in the very last

1382
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: few seconds there's it suddenly gets kind of, ambiguous AND

1383
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,839
Speaker 3: i don't know what to make of. It So paco

1384
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: peels back part of his head and reveals something underneath.

1385
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 3: THERE i couldn't tell quite what it, was like some

1386
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 3: piece of metal in his head is, glinting and and he's,

1387
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 3: like but is it a? Soul and then she's, like

1388
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: and then it just cuts to.

1389
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 4: Music.

1390
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and also there's some some text on the

1391
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: screen that says it was a day in our near

1392
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: future the era of the cyborg had. Begun the tense

1393
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: in this sentence is really. Confusing but and it also

1394
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: feels a little bit Like poocy dyed on his returning

1395
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: to his home. Planet. Right, yeah it just kind of

1396
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: comes out of. Nowhere but BUT i liked it, Nonetheless so.

1397
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: Like did did they get to go off and like

1398
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: have a nice peaceful life together after?

1399
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 4: This? Ah? Sure why? Not?

1400
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh, OKAY i mean maybe it Was, utah don't placate,

1401
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: me but, NO i like TO i like to imagine

1402
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 2: that they settled In, arizona maybe maybe right there in Page,

1403
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 2: arizona and you, know lived. Happily ever After mosley brings

1404
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: around and you, know brings about better environmental.

1405
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 4: Policies for the.

1406
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: World but it is the age of the, cyborg so

1407
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: MAYBE i don't. Know the cyborgs are an important part

1408
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: of bringing about a more environmentally sound, future maybe.

1409
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: An all cyborg powered.

1410
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: Future, YEAH i mean maybe if you're only thirty percent,

1411
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: organics you end up caring more about those.

1412
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 4: Organics you're, like, Look i've.

1413
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: Already lost seventy percent of me to. Machine i've only

1414
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 2: got thirty percent, left So i'm going to be one

1415
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: hundred percent. Environmentalist that's.

1416
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: Right the cybe is not. Everything you. Know your org is.

1417
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: Precious be good to your.

1418
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: Org oh by the, way that the bridge where we

1419
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 2: have the big showdown at that bridge Is Navajo bridge

1420
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: In Grand Canyon National. Park in the, film we see

1421
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 2: just a single bridge that was built in nineteen twenty.

1422
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: Nine since the filming this, movie a second bridge was

1423
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 2: built right alongside it in nineteen ninety.

1424
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,919
Speaker 4: Five the old.

1425
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: Bridge is still, there though it's open for pedestrian and equestrian.

1426
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: Use so if you find yourself in this part Of,

1427
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: arizona check it. Out you can apparently walk out there

1428
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: on the on the bridge where the big showdown takes.

1429
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 3: PLACE i do love a good pedestrian.

1430
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Bridge, YEAH i, mean and it's a gorgeous bridge That

1431
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: it's one of the THINGS i enjoyed a lot about this.

1432
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: Movie BUT i did really enjoy getting to see The arizona,

1433
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: countryside even if the film quality is not, perfect especially

1434
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: SINCE i had trouble finding this one and ended up

1435
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: watching one of there's several different rips of it on,

1436
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: YouTube SO i ended up just picking the one that

1437
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: looked like it had the best film. Quality it looks

1438
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: like it has been streaming On Amazon prime in the,

1439
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: past but it was marked currently unavailable right, now SO

1440
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: i had to make do with.

1441
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: This that title is hands Of. STEEL i know at

1442
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: least a couple times in here we said something like

1443
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 3: arms of steel or.

1444
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: IDEAL i wrote arms of steel at once and had

1445
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: to go back and correct, it but probably said it.

1446
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 3: Anyway vendetta Deld Futuro vengeance The.

1447
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: Future, NOW i know you had some thoughts about the

1448
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: cyborg acting in.

1449
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 3: This oh, yeah there was something that just popped up

1450
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: a few times in this. MOVIE i can't remember what

1451
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: the specific instances, were but, uh it's it's a thing

1452
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: you see every now and the now and again in

1453
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: SOME b. Movies, ESPECIALLY i feel Like i've noticed it

1454
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 3: in Some ITALIAN b movies is actors delivering their lines

1455
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 3: literally without. Acting and this is different from bad. Acting you,

1456
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 3: know bad acting is when a person attempts to inhabit

1457
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: a character and does a bad. Job it's you, know

1458
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: it's a poor, reading or it is, implausible not appropriate

1459
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 3: for the, scene something like. That, instead this is a

1460
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: phenomenon where the line delivery is literally just a. Delivery

1461
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: it's like reading a sequence of words out loud off a.

1462
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: PAGE M, YEAH i guess sometimes that's probably a product of. Dubbing,

1463
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: OH i think.

1464
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely it could be. THAT i don't remember what specifically

1465
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 3: had in, mind BUT i know there were a few

1466
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: of those in here WHEN i was watching.

1467
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: It but then, again if one character is a cyborg

1468
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: and therefore you, know seventy percent, machine and then a

1469
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: certain kind of a cold read need to kind of makes.

1470
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 2: Sense and then if another character is played By John,

1471
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: saxon who often has that kind of stern delivery, anyway you,

1472
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: know regardless if he's the villain in a cyborg film

1473
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: or if He's nancy's dad In nightmare On Elm, street

1474
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: you know you're only going to get a certain level

1475
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: of energy From, saxon intense but medium.

1476
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: Energy, yeah, yeah, YEAH i see what you're. SAYING i

1477
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: Mean saxon was always trying to play it, cool which

1478
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: is dangerous for an. Actor like you can have a

1479
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 3: cool persona as an, actor but if you try to

1480
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: be too, cool you limit yourself from you, know the

1481
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: full range of emotion you could display on. Screen.

1482
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Meanwhile George eastman was not trying to play it,

1483
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: cool at least in the picture and most Pictures i've seen,

1484
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,839
Speaker 2: him and he's he's basically trying to be a cartoon

1485
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: wolf out of A Looney tunes.

1486
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 3: Cartoon He's jim carries the mask without. Animation, yeah pretty.

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