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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, and welcome to Charlotte North Carolina. John Murphy

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Speaker 1: Steam Cancer. We continue our tour of the Carolinas the

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Speaker 1: last few days in Spartanburg, South Carolina. We have made

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Speaker 1: great trip up from Spartanburg yesterday and this has turned

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Speaker 1: We've been like the Senior Bowl, the Draft we did

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Speaker 1: We went to Super Bowl. Combine, combine the best yea,

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Speaker 1: There's a good barbecue. We got a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: that being a young guy like these guys, being a

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Speaker 1: player and feeling like your bulletproof, right, so you can

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Speaker 1: talk all you want let's go play then we'll see

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Speaker 1: you know. I I it was so it brought me

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Speaker 1: back to so many times on our locker room, in

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Speaker 1: our in our sidelines. Cam Newton sp we never really

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Speaker 1: had We did have joint practices like this, but we

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Speaker 1: never had a chance to interact. We know, we never

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Speaker 1: miled around together like that. Yeah, it was. It was great.

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Speaker 1: It was great. You know, there was that and then

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Speaker 1: there was interaction as well. And I think it was

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Chris Brown on the show talking about the post

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Speaker 1: practice interaction between Josh Allen and Luke Keickley. Right, Alan

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Speaker 1: saw Keickley make a move, show him a look, and

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Speaker 1: he wanted to know what it was all about, and

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Speaker 1: they talked. That was pretty significant, I thought. Keikley also

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Speaker 1: spent some time yesterday talking with the other Bills rookie

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Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen Fremin Edmonds, Buffalo starting middle linebacker, and afterwards,

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Speaker 1: Keikley was asked, what do you think about Tremine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: after watching him in practice for a week. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Luke Keakley had to say. He's big, he's athletic, he runs,

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Speaker 1: he's long, He's like the perfect the perfect body type

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Speaker 1: for this defense. So U mcdee's got a great defense,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna thrive him high praise from

449
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Speaker 1: really maybe the smartest defensive player in the NFL. Right

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Speaker 1: he had had trained Edmund. Luke is really sharp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think too it, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make too much out of it. But Josh Allen, you know,

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Speaker 1: walking over to Keikley and at starting to ask him

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Speaker 1: about that, say hey, what's up with that? Having the

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Speaker 1: wherewithal and the awareness to say, well, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: that's not what he should have been doing. What's he thinking?

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Speaker 1: How did he you know that kind of thing? I

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Speaker 1: think Josh Allen got a look at Luke Keikley's ability,

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Speaker 1: you and I noticed it. I mean, guy is at

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Speaker 1: full speed at the snap, knowing where the ball is going.

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Speaker 1: He's unbelievable, so claivoyant. Scription And so Allan sees him

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Speaker 1: do something that is clairvoyant, and he goes over and saying,

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Speaker 1: well how did you do that? And Keickley starts to

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Speaker 1: go down and saying about the route concept, He goes,

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Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna have a good play. You

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Speaker 1: had us here, so I was gonna make it as

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Speaker 1: as as short a good play as I possibly can

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Speaker 1: because I knew that if this was happening, which it was,

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Speaker 1: I had to get to this spot to make it

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Speaker 1: less of a game than it was otherwise gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And Alan's ability to say, how you know, to see

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Speaker 1: it and understand how good a play it was, and

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Speaker 1: then to go over and be his in quiz and

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Speaker 1: you know, have as much confidence in Josh as himself

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Speaker 1: and say, listen, I'm gonna go talk to this guy.

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Speaker 1: He's an all pro and I know I'm a second

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Speaker 1: year quarter and I'm gonna go ask, and Keikley, you know,

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Speaker 1: being the guy is answered it. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 1: again evidence of how perfect this matchup was. These two

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Speaker 1: teams to practice the same type of players. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: Josh smart kid, Josh Allen. He's something that a smart player,

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the smartest in the league is doing,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go talking about it. Yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna be intimidated by it or wonder what was

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Speaker 1: going on. I'm gonna ask him that's it's next level stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I'm not I don't want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like they're not splitting atoms. But

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Speaker 1: still the attitude and the professionalism on both sides of

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Speaker 1: that conversation is pretty evident. And Josh Allen knowing he's

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Speaker 1: the guy that needs to learn and going to the

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Speaker 1: guy he needs to learn from. It's that's that's nice

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Speaker 1: and on both sides of that. So Keickley had really

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Speaker 1: good words for Tremine Edmonds, and Edmond's responded. Here's Bills

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Speaker 1: linebacker second year linebacker linebacker Tremine Edmonds talking about somehow

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Speaker 1: being compared to Luke Keickley. Here's what he said. You know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm trying to be

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Speaker 1: my own player. Man. Uh, you know, pick things from him.

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Speaker 1: You know Seattle way he played it when you know

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Speaker 1: coach McDermot was his coach. But uh, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, I'm trying to be my own player. Um.

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Speaker 1: But also you know, he's a great player man. Everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that. So it takes stuff from his game, take

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Speaker 1: stuff from other people's game, and apply to my game

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Speaker 1: and be the best that I could do. What is

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Speaker 1: it like when you do hear the comparisons between the two,

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Speaker 1: When you're compared to a player of that caliber, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's great. He's great, and you know, I got a

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Speaker 1: long ways to go. U. You know, just take you know,

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Speaker 1: take things that I can learn from, Take things I

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Speaker 1: can learn from other guys, and develop it into my game.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be my own player, so uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do things that I that I naturally

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Speaker 1: do myself, but just take little things from everybody else

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Speaker 1: game as well. Tremaine first joined practice as a professional,

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Speaker 1: what did you learn in these Just? Man, it's been

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Speaker 1: competitive about it here. Guys continue every day, Guys getting

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Speaker 1: better every day. Just communication. I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're in a different setting sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: guys could be overwhelmed a little bit, but the biggest

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Speaker 1: things is communicating and uh going to work. Tremiine Edmunds

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Speaker 1: Buffalos starting middle linebacker, and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a real strong comparison to Luke Keeckley. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Bills would love to have the kind of a

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Speaker 1: middle linebacker that has the impact that Luke Keeckley does, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't think obviously the body types are different and

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I do see Tremine Edmonds a little more,

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Speaker 1: a lot more sure of himself now that I did

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Speaker 1: twelve months ago in training. Kim. Oh, Yeah, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. He's he's a different little kind of player.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I think his I think the

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Speaker 1: most fundamental difference in the thing, and I think is

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Speaker 1: gonna make the biggest difference is the way his teammates

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Speaker 1: see him. I mean, now they're looking at him thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do we do? And instead of last year, I said,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how this kid's gonna handle this? What do

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Speaker 1: you got? You know this? You know I'm doing my

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Speaker 1: thing over here. Now they're like, Tremaine, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: You know, Tremaine? What's going on? And he's there for

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Speaker 1: him and he's kind of filled that role very quickly,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is a profound change from where

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Speaker 1: he was this time twelve months ago. I agree. All right.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're at here the bills making there

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Speaker 1: move up to Carolina. We got a pretty good topic

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Speaker 1: to talk about today and we'd love to get you

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Speaker 1: involved in it. Phone lines, as usual, are open all

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Speaker 1: day about whatever you'd like to talk about. We're getting

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Speaker 1: the Bills in the NFL the numbers eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty in Buffalo. Outside Buffalo one eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. On Twitter, you can catch us

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. The Twitter question which late round

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Speaker 1: Bill's draft pick could have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen?

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Speaker 1: Late round after the third U now it goes the

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Speaker 1: Bills with the one first rounder, one second round or

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Speaker 1: two third rounders. Forget about them. They're all gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: They're not, no, forget about it, but they're all gonna

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Speaker 1: make it, and they're all gonna have an impact that

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Speaker 1: can contribution to make You would think after that, you

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Speaker 1: get to the fifth round, right well, Sean Joseph, you

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Speaker 1: get to the sixth round, Jaquan Johnson, Quan you get

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Speaker 1: to the seventh round where you have the tight end

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Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney, and you have Darryl Johns Arrol Johnson. Which

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Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact on the twenty nineteen season got more than three

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty votes in on the Twitter poll so far,

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Speaker 1: which late round Bill's draft pick could have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact in twenty nineteen? And on Twitter it's a horse race,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, These are these are the best Twitter polls.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven percent of you say seventh rounder Darryl Johnson

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Speaker 1: will have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. Thirty seven

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Speaker 1: percent say the other seventh rounder, Tommy Sweeney will have

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Speaker 1: the biggest impact. Twenty percent say fifth round pick with

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Speaker 1: Sean Joseph will have the biggest impact. Just six percent

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Speaker 1: say Kwan Johnson, sixth rounder from Miami, We'll have the

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Speaker 1: biggest impact. It's a close one, it's a good one,

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Speaker 1: and it gets you thinking who's gonna look, not who's

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Speaker 1: the best, who's gonna have the best We're not asking

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Speaker 1: who's gonna have the best NFL career. Who's gonna have

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Speaker 1: the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. Yeah, it's a tough question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I would answer that. It's interesting too,

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Speaker 1: because people think third place there is the Sean Joseph.

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Speaker 1: He's a linebacker, he's not even slated to start right now,

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Speaker 1: but they really think he's gonna be the impact would

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Speaker 1: be on teams that, Yeah, I would think so. But

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Speaker 1: I think you know Daryl Johnson from what we saw,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's he's got a chance. If he

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Speaker 1: can replicate what he did last week against the Colts,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's gonna be like, okay, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, now, wait, you know people, people are going whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: Another two sacks, you know that kind of thing, Another

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Speaker 1: forced fumble. This guy's another tip past that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, then all of a sudden, you got to

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Speaker 1: think about him moving up into the rotation with Trent Murphy,

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Speaker 1: with with Jerry Hughes, those kind of guys. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: with Mike Love Who's gonna you know, even um Shack

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Speaker 1: Lawson who had on this show yesterday. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: when you do stuff like that, Darryl Johnson's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna move up. And that means some people that were

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Speaker 1: pretty familiar with and kind of depending on are gonna

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Speaker 1: move back. Um, And that's that makes you pause. I think, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a find in the seventh round because I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, he flashed big time last week and

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Speaker 1: and he continues to work hard on special teams. I've

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Speaker 1: said it a ton uh. Heath Farlow loves the guy,

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Speaker 1: and that's that says a lot as well, it is

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Speaker 1: the reason why you watch and listen to tomorrow night's

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Speaker 1: preseason game number two to see if there's that development there,

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Speaker 1: to see if he takes the next step. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got to be. And the word we've

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Speaker 1: we've chimed in and I've said it and we had, uh,

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Speaker 1: Sam wash On yesterday he said the same thing, consistency.

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Speaker 1: You know, coaches love consistent guys and that if you

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Speaker 1: can find somebody like that, those are the guys you

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Speaker 1: hang onto. Absolutely, wasn't Sam Whit's great yesterday by the way,

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Speaker 1: he was, Sam, why you should go back and listen

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Speaker 1: to that. If you didn't get a chance, he's on

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Speaker 1: our website. We'll give you a chance to reminisce a

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Speaker 1: little bit old Bills fans from the nineteen eighty eight

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Speaker 1: championship game where he played and then some of the

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Speaker 1: old names in the game. He played and coached for

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Speaker 1: Paul Brown, one of the iconic figures in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. He had a couple of great moments. We

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Speaker 1: played the video from when Sam Wish grabbed the on

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Speaker 1: field microphone and said, listen, if you see anybody throwing

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Speaker 1: stuff on the field, let's tell somebody about a speak up.

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Speaker 1: We'll get him out of here because you don't live

627
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati. Who says that great story,

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Speaker 1: Sam Wich. It's a great story and it's one of

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Speaker 1: the all kind old time iconic moments in football. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had him on and you gotta go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to it if you haven't had a chance. All right,

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Speaker 1: that was yesterday. We got a lot to talk about today,

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Speaker 1: which late round Bills draft pick could have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact in twenty nineteen. Plus more takeaways from the two

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Speaker 1: days of practice at Spartanburg, Plus a kind of a

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Speaker 1: look ahead to tomorrow night's game, preseason game number two.

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Speaker 1: All of that coming up here on the show. Stick

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Speaker 1: with us. We got phone lines open eight o three

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet when we come back. We're just

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Speaker 1: gotta kicked off here from Charlotte, North Carolina, One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker from the weston Charlotte hotel. You all right, what's

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Speaker 1: a man? Jay Harris is a little too persnicative about

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Speaker 1: where I have my microphone. It is the Harris room,

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Speaker 1: after all, almost sitting as Jay describes, we must sit.

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Speaker 1: of room for like a nice sumptuous This is I say,

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Speaker 1: we can live. We can live in this environment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jay would have wished you would have been in here

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Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, I'll just tell you. In the last

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Speaker 1: forty five minutes show. We were in full sunlight in Spartanburg,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina in August. So I'll just say that. And

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult conditions. I'm looking up a text that

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Speaker 1: on the show. We're here from a Charlotte getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the game of our night. Steve and I both

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Speaker 1: doing our homework. You get let me see, you got

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Speaker 1: your bills boards, the new and this is the this

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Speaker 1: and I had to put, you know, instead of E. J. Gaines,

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Speaker 1: A couple of linemen on. Demetrius Rainy is now on

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Speaker 1: the roster. That kind of thing. So there's you know,

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Speaker 1: little quick, little subtle changes, Biggie, that's my professional announcers

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Speaker 1: on the roster six one, three h seven free agent

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Speaker 1: So it's there's you know, little changes. Yeah, we're working.

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Speaker 1: Sam Ancho's on the roster. Now. It's not all barbecue

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Speaker 1: what the barbecue helps get you through it. Twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: we're asking you the question which late round Bills draft

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Speaker 1: pick has the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. What do

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Speaker 1: you think but Sean Joseph fifth round linebacker, is it

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Speaker 1: Jaquan Johnson sixth round safety? Or either one of them rounders?

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Speaker 1: Tightened end Tommy Sweeney or defensive end Darield Johnson give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the I was just gonna do a quick twet

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Speaker 1: tweet from Max. He said, listen, this pull's really good,

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Speaker 1: which is a good way to get it read on

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Speaker 1: the on the air. If he started out by complimenting us,

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Speaker 1: tough call, but I'm gonna go with Vashawan Joseph. This

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Speaker 1: is what I thought was surprising because he's a backup.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna break into you think he's gonna break

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Speaker 1: into the starting lineup. But he says, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Vashawan Joseph for twenty nineteen. I like them all,

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Speaker 1: but I love the smack that Vashan laid on the

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Speaker 1: kickoff return last Thursday. I think he'll make some key

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Speaker 1: plays on special teams that will be impactful in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's where he would make an impact if

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Speaker 1: he's not going to start, and he had better be

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Speaker 1: able to do it. But he did make a nice,

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Speaker 1: nice hit on the kickoff return, and that's it's good

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Speaker 1: to see. But the impact can be anywhere. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be at there down in distance position. We

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Speaker 1: are into the tweet sheet and it is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. A tweet from Tiffany Here, she says Tommy

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Speaker 1: Sweeney has a chance to start with the rash of

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Speaker 1: injuries at tight end. So far, he looks like a

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Speaker 1: savad option. He is good hands and is a pretty

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Speaker 1: good blocker. Hopefully in a couple of years will wonder

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Speaker 1: how we stole him in the seventh round. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: see that. I think Sweeney he's got a great chance

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Speaker 1: here with the injuries I did notice, and Jason Krum

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Speaker 1: got in a little more work as this. The last

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Speaker 1: two days went along in Spartanburg, So Jason Crum, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he'll play tomorrow night here in Carolina,

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Speaker 1: but I do think he looks like he is nearing

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Speaker 1: a return time Tyler Croft that doesn't appear as anywhere

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Speaker 1: near that yet. I think that's going to the end

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Speaker 1: of preseason, maybe into regular season. And I really want

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Speaker 1: to see Dawson Knox the third rounder tight end. As

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Speaker 1: much as I appreciate Tommy Sweeney, I think Dawson Knox

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Speaker 1: has even more to offer the Bill's offense. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do see what she mentions about Tommy Sweeney. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity for him and it gives him

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Speaker 1: a chance to really see what they've got in Tommy

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Speaker 1: Sweeney's whether he'll be a practice squad guy or an

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Speaker 1: active roster guy, or maybe even a starter. I think

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Speaker 1: that's all on the table for him, depending on what

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Speaker 1: happens with the rest of the tight end. Let me

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Speaker 1: take this call Gary out of the line from the

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Speaker 1: cell phone. He wants to talk about Tommy Sweeney. Go ahead, Gary, Gary, Hey, guys, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I hear you know, how are you? Go ahead? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how y'all doing. I think two seventh rounders. I think

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Speaker 1: we need them. We need rotation players, we need backups.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the moves they made last week at the

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Speaker 1: like Sweeney. I mean because you know, injuries to the

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Speaker 1: tight end, so that that's why I look at and

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Speaker 1: you know, for future players, because they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: replace players down the road. If you can develop these

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Speaker 1: young players, you know, they're cheap, If they become good players,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna help us on salary. Plus you know, talent. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, those two seven rounds you're talking about Tommy

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Speaker 1: Sweeney and Darryl Johnson. You know, you think about Daryl Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Think about this, if they get a guy like Daryl Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Shack Lawson's in his fifth year, they

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Speaker 1: did not pick up his option, he could come in

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Speaker 1: you know, they could let him go h for not

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Speaker 1: being productive enough for a first round draft pick. They've

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Speaker 1: got Darryl Johnson if he shows up, to move right

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Speaker 1: into that slot as a as a rotational player next year.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, right now, Lawson is on a one

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Speaker 1: year deal. He's on the last year of a deal,

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Speaker 1: as are a lot of a lot of guys. These

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Speaker 1: free agents they brought in. The Bills have done that

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Speaker 1: as much as any this regime, more than any regime

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Speaker 1: ever in my memory. For the Buffalo Bills puts guys

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Speaker 1: on one year proven deals a lot. They do it

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Speaker 1: a lot, and guys eat that up. They bet on themselves.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's going on around the league a

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Speaker 1: little bit more the less couple of years. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a smart move. Guys. They get guys who are willing

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Speaker 1: to bet on themselves, and teams want highly motivated players

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Speaker 1: and you know, extending your career and getting a pretty

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Speaker 1: good UH pile of money to do it for a year,

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Speaker 1: you're willing to do it, and guys come in and

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Speaker 1: they'll play for that, and that's I think that's what

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Speaker 1: the situation Shack Lawson finds himself in. Although his was

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Speaker 1: a five year deal as a first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: he's on the last year and they didn't pick up

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Speaker 1: his option, so he's got a chance to hit the

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Speaker 1: open market and earn a big contract. So he's highly motivated.

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Speaker 1: But my point is a guy like Daryl Johnson, who's

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Speaker 1: like Gary said, the caller said, he's cheap labor, he's

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal, he's a seventh round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: If you can get that guy to come in and

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Speaker 1: give you sacks on a regular basis, forget about the numbers. However,

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Speaker 1: timely sacks or plays. There's a couple of guys that

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Speaker 1: can become expendable because of that. And Gary makes a

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Speaker 1: good point that is going to be echoed in the

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Speaker 1: tweet they're going to read about opportunity. The opportunity matters

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Speaker 1: as far as who's going to make the big impact.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the Corrigan Moving Systems tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: from Jeremiah. He says when we asked the question, which

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Speaker 1: of the late round draft picks with the bill is

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Speaker 1: going to have the biggest impact. Jeremiah says Daryl Johnson

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Speaker 1: seventh rounder, only because I think he'll get more opportunity

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Speaker 1: because of the defensive line rotation, whereas I think the

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Speaker 1: other tight ends will get healthy, which would impact Tommy

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Speaker 1: Sweeney's reps. And Voshan also has guys add have a

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Speaker 1: very good point. Yeah, it's about opportunity, it's about getting

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Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, and that's you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to that right now. Some of

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Speaker 1: that at all these guys positions is a little bit

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Speaker 1: fluid because we don't know if stuff, what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with the tight ends. How strong is Dawson Knox and

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Speaker 1: Jason Krum going to come back? And Tyler Croft what's history.

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Speaker 1: There's three guys that at the beginning of this we're

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Speaker 1: all ahead of Tommy Sweeney. They're all going to come

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Speaker 1: back start taking opportunities away from him when they get healthy,

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Speaker 1: and what they do with those opportunities dictates Sweeney's ability

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Speaker 1: to contribute. So there's a lot of fluidity towards this roster,

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Speaker 1: particularly here. Now, we haven't even played two preseason games yet,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot and this is all speculation, of

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Speaker 1: course by us, but it's fun to think about because

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Speaker 1: we've seen some of these guys. Now we have a

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Speaker 1: game under our belt, in a training camp under our belt.

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Speaker 1: One more from the tweet sheet as far as lead

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Speaker 1: run draft pick, who will have the biggest impact this year?

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Speaker 1: Tim tweetson Darryl Johnson. Even though he's a seventh rounder,

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Speaker 1: his size and have intrigued me ever since we picked him.

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Speaker 1: He's a big dude, hoping he can improve his technique,

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Speaker 1: can become a productive depth player this year. You tell

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Speaker 1: me what you think about this. And I've seen this before,

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Speaker 1: You've seen it when and I think you may have

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Speaker 1: just hinted on this a minute ago. When you are

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Speaker 1: called upon to be a pass rusher. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's easy, but it's not complicated. Right, Go get the guy,

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Speaker 1: Go get him right. And Darryl Johnson may benefit from that.

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Speaker 1: He's in his first year in this defense. He'll be

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Speaker 1: part of the rotation, you won't have to play every snap,

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Speaker 1: and he might benefit from Leslie Frazier and the coach

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00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: is saying, hey, when you're in there, you got one

843
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: thing to think of, right, you know, it's exactly right.

844
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Speaker 1: Plus there'll be some things. He's even now is a

845
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick, a rookie who nobody knows he

846
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: brings something to the table. And I'll tell you he

847
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: mentioned it. He's his length and size. These guys bust

848
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: out in early in the OTA's right, they come out

849
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: there and it's the first time you and I even

850
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: see him in shorts and T shirts. Right, these guys

851
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: all come out and they got they do have jerseys on, right,

852
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: So they and they're coming out and we're standing in

853
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the end zone, you know, just outside the studio there

854
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: watch him and I'm like, wait a minute, Wait a minute,

855
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: who was that guy? And it was Darryl Johnson, because

856
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: he man, he looks the party, you know, and then

857
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: he come he busts out and he's got this. You know,

858
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: he has this great preseason game right out of the gate.

859
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, oh man, So all of a sudden,

860
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, you see what they saw in him. And

861
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I think coaches notoriously this is an axiom throughout the

862
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: National Football League and even at the college level. In

863
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: high school level. Let your players do what they do best.

864
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: And so whatever whatever Daryl Johnson is doing, even if

865
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: he's good in the run game, if they see that

866
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: in practice, or he's good at setting the edge, what

867
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna put him in situations where that's what they're

868
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna ask him to do. If it's rushing the pastor

869
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a chance to rush the passer, if

870
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: it's a chance to set the edge on a run

871
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: game to the wide side, they're gonna put him in

872
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: a position to do that. If it's doing an ex

873
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: stunt or an ox stunt with the defensive tackle is inside,

874
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna have him. Have those guys make those calls.

875
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: So to begin with, and until they get him up

876
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to speed in some of the other aspects of his game,

877
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what they may be, I'm totally

878
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: saying this as a generality, they're gonna ask him to

879
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: do what he does best, and particularly when the games count.

880
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: Now now, they may be asking him to do some

881
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: things he's not so good at to see him to

882
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: evaluate him against other players, but when it comes to

883
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: the regular season, that's where he's gonna be rotated in

884
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: and that's the way it's gonna work. So if he

885
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Speaker 1: can continue to play like he has, there's certainly things

886
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: that we can all see that he does well. Hey,

887
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: when the Bills broke up their final practice joint practice

888
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: with the Panthers yesterday, after that was over, Leslie Frasier,

889
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, talk to the media. We will hear

890
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: some of his comments when we come back for the

891
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: next segment. Join us, won't you. We're coming to him

892
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Speaker 1: from Charlotte, North Carolina, the Western Hotel One Bill's Live

893
00:40:49,840 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio, Lar Night, Bills and Carolina Panthers.

894
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I woke up today, Steve excited about this game, and

895
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: then there are people driving around Buffalo and say, really,

896
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: you get excited about preseason game number two? Yeah, I do.

897
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: I love doing the games and I'm eager to see

898
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: how some of these storylines play out. It is a

899
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: fun roster to cover. Yes, I gotta say it. It's

900
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Because we talked to all these guys,

901
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: We've we've had almost everybody on the show, on the

902
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: team on the show at one time or another, and

903
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I and they're all they all seem to be great guys,

904
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: even the new guys like the Kurt Coleman's of the world,

905
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Sam Acho. I mean he speaks three languages. I mean,

906
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: these guys are impressive. The only spoke one on our show,

907
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: right and uh good too. And then to see you know,

908
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: have these guys like Josh and Tremaine, Tredavious, you know,

909
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: and Ed Oliver, all these guys Starlo to Lele Tremor.

910
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: I want to see these guys play. I mean, I

911
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: just the last half a last season was unique for

912
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: me and that I really couldn't get enough of watching

913
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: these guys because there was growth everywhere, and uh, you

914
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: know they didn't they didn't get enough wins, no question

915
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: about it. Um. But you know, a couple of bounces

916
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: of the ball will let you know how close they

917
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: really are or at least we're last year, and I

918
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: guess I guess they're gonna be closer this year. Right, Yeah,

919
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: So I mean that's the that's the plan. So I

920
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: want to see it. I think it's really gonna be fun. Um,

921
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: this is here's an idea for tomorrow's pole. Hope our

922
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: producer was paying attention. Um, who are you most looking

923
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: forward to seeing in this game Torona, simple right, and

924
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: you can't answer Josh Allen. Look, I want to see

925
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: how Josh looks. I think he had a good couple

926
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Speaker 1: of days at Carolina. I see some internet, some Twitter

927
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: debate about just how good was he. He was pretty good.

928
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: He wasn't sensational. He was pretty good. He looked like

929
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, uh approaching, you know, the top of his

930
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: game as it stands right now in his second year.

931
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Speaker 1: But lee him aside, there's got or the others even

932
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, whoever. You want to see Devin Singletary, maybe

933
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: you want to see um Christian Christian Wade again. Maybe

934
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Johnson Johnson, that'll be you got that down for tomorrow.

935
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: I got it. I read it. I wrote it down

936
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: because I'll forget about it in about five minutes. But yeah, yeah,

937
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you. There's a there's a lot of

938
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: guys that are really intriguing on this roster. We've been

939
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: watching them for a long time and it's and we

940
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: get to watch practice as much as we can, but

941
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: for the most part, he kind of wait for the

942
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: games to see when it really matters at least, you

943
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when they're really in competition. Against

944
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: somebody who wants them to fail. You know what else

945
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: we have to talk about today. Let's do this today,

946
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: and we don't have time to do it now because

947
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: we're almost at the break top of the hour break.

948
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: But you brought this up and before we settle on,

949
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: this Twitter poll about which late round draft pick has

950
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: the best chance to impact twenty nineteen. Who who, if anybody,

951
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: are the undrafted rookie free agents who are gonna make

952
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: this fifty three man roster. It's tough to identify him, right,

953
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's seven of them. There're seven guys that

954
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: are even eligible. Goes from Roderick Young, Nick Easily, Nate Becker,

955
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Duke Williams, cam Lewis, Tyree Jackson, David Sills. I mean

956
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: that it's a list that Jase McLaughlin kicker. Yeah, okay,

957
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, right, Well, we'll discuss this later on,

958
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: but um a year ago, Robert Foster, Levi Wallace, all

959
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: these people making the roster, it's indicative of how much

960
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: the roster has improved, I think from a year ago. Agree, right,

961
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: And they've got and they had well, let's face it,

962
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: it's not because the roster improved because they had seventy

963
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: five million bucks to spend, right, you know, that was

964
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: and that was part of the plan. It was just

965
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: one more step in this process that Brandon Bean and

966
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott have gone through. This roster got better because

967
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: they bought it, you know, and they've drafted it, and

968
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 1: it's time for it to get better. They got their

969
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: financial house in order and had allowed them to upgrade

970
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: this roster mostly on the offensive side of the football

971
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: where they needed it a year ago. And now we'll see,

972
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: we'll see. So a couple of topics will discuss as

973
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: the afternoon goes along. Which drafted free agent has a

974
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: chance maybe none of them, you think, And which late

975
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: round draft pick do you think I'll have the biggest

976
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: impact in twenty nineteen. A lot to talk about, and

977
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with one of the NFL's foremost experts

978
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: on the league. Charles Robinson covers the league. He's done

979
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: it for several years for Yahoo sports dot Com. He

980
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: was in Spartanburg yes two days ago watch the Bills

981
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: in Carolina. He'll be joining us when we come back

982
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: for our number two. Come on back with us one.

983
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Colta Health from Charlotte, North Carolina,

984
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network

985
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Stories Update. The update from Charlotte, North Carolina. The Bills

986
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: now a day away from preseason game number two, on

987
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: their way here to Charlotte for the game against the

988
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: Panthers tomorrow night. Buffalo held a walk through workout down

989
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: on Spartanburg, South Carolina this morning. Boarding buses this hour

990
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: for the one hour drive north here to Charlotte get

991
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: into their road game routine tonight with meetings. We're just

992
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: over two weeks away from the first and only cutdown

993
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: date this year, Saturday, August thirty. First those roster now

994
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: at ninety one must be cut down to fifty three,

995
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: so the battles continue for starting spots on the offensive

996
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: line and for backup spots all over the roster, including

997
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Tomorrow night's game, we'll give the coaching staff

998
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: more information on who should stay and who will go

999
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: out the call of the game tomorrow Here from Charlotte

1000
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: the Bills and Panthers seven o'clock. I'll be working with

1001
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Eric Wood the color annas Salcapacho on the sidelines for

1002
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: the broadcast. Our flagship station here in Buffalo, WGR Sports

1003
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Radio five fifty. As the Bills continued to work this

1004
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: week against Carolina, keep I praise for bill second year

1005
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: linebacker Tremine Edmonds from Carolina's Pro Bowl linebacker Luke Keikley.

1006
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Keikley said, he's Biggy's athletic, he runs, He's long, the

1007
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: perfect body type for this defense. He liked what he saw.

1008
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: Panther's backup defensive end Brian Cox Junior was arrested yesterday

1009
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: sighted for a possession of marijuana and going ninety miles

1010
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Speaker 1: per hour in a sixty five mile an hour zone

1011
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Speaker 1: on his way here to Charlotte from Camp and Spartanburg.

1012
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Speaker 1: The incident occurred on Interstate eighty five. Panthers say they're

1013
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: aware of the arrest, they have no further comments. Well,

1014
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck be ready to go for the Colts come

1015
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: Week one of the regular season. We may know by

1016
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: next week, and Colts coach Frank Reich says he'd like

1017
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: to make a decision on Indy's Week one starting quarterback

1018
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: by the third preseason game. The end of the third

1019
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: preseason game next week, and the Buffalo Bison's at home

1020
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: this afternoon. First pitch moments away the Bison's and Toledo.

1021
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: They've won two in a row at home, another one today,

1022
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Speaker 1: one oh five, first pitch right under Andrew SaPKo on

1023
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: the Mound four Buffalo tonight. And that is the update

1024
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: from Charlotte, North Carolina. Oh great time, last paper done,

1025
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: text text text at all time hour Joe the show

1026
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Speaker 1: from the Western Otel, the Bill Headquarters. So it's a

1027
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: downtown Charlotte, North Carolina. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, Bryan Cox Junior.

1028
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Speaker 1: We were around n eighty five yesterday, Steve. I don't

1029
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: know if you were going ninety, but you were going

1030
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Speaker 1: pretty fast. Well, everybody's going pretty fast down there. Dodged

1031
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: that bullet. It's a yeah, it's a sixty five mile

1032
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Speaker 1: hour speed limit, and that's people are changing tires at

1033
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: sixty five on it Is this what you were going

1034
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: to tell the Carolina State trooper or if you got

1035
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: pulled over, No, everybody's going to pull over and run.

1036
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm just gonna leave you guys behind. We were

1037
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Speaker 1: down in Spartinburg. We're up in Charlotte now, gentlemen joining

1038
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Speaker 1: us on the line line right now. One of the

1039
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Speaker 1: foremost writers. One of the foremost analysts of NFL football.

1040
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Speaker 1: For several years now, he's been covering the NFL for

1041
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Speaker 1: Yahoo dot Compson's two thousand and four senior writer for

1042
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Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports covering the NFL. Happy to have Charles Robinson

1043
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hi, Charles, John Murphy, and

1044
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker over here in Charlotte. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah,

1045
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Guys. How you doing good? We

1046
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: missed you? Right, you were in Spartanburg the other day,

1047
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Speaker 1: did I hear? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, I was there.

1048
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Speaker 1: Quick breezed through. I had to get down to Atlanta,

1049
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: so I stopped in for the first day of joint practices. Well,

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00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: give us your impressions of the bills. What did you think?

1051
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: What did you see a lot of homegrown talent? I

1052
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: think what was interesting when you look at the too

1053
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: deep roster, you know, you can see what the effort is.

1054
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: You know, I think you you have a lot of

1055
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: young people, you know train Edmonds was just watching him

1056
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: even one day was pretty remarkable. And actually I was

1057
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: I was doing some stuff with the Panthers and I

1058
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to Greg Olson, and you know,

1059
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Greg was just like man he can run for his size. Um,

1060
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, to hear Olson be

1061
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: as impressed as he was, and Olson looks great himself,

1062
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: So I think it's saying something that the first thing

1063
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Olson said was that you know, he expected to be

1064
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: a guy that he would you know, get loose of

1065
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: in coverage. But Olson said, you know, he looks like

1066
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty adept at you know, change of direction, which

1067
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: is pretty crazy first size. I just think look in general,

1068
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: looking at the Buffalo roster, it looks like a patient process.

1069
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: You see a lot of the young guys that are

1070
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: are you see how they're building the roster. It's not

1071
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: going to be a rush you know to free agency

1072
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: or to you know, hit the trade wire or any

1073
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: of these things that it's it's a homegrown effort. You know,

1074
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I had a chance to watch him. It's

1075
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: not a ton but you know, briefly, you know enough

1076
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: to see that still work in progress, but you know,

1077
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: the tools obviously are there. The I think the scouting

1078
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: report on him prior to him being drafted has proven accurate,

1079
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of his NFL development thus far.

1080
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: But defensively, I definitely like what Buffalo has going this season.

1081
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as long as this can be

1082
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: a game where a season where you know, defensively, they

1083
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: they turn the ball over and create a lot of opportunities,

1084
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's got a chance to be probably a

1085
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: better team than some expect. I was going to ask

1086
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: you about that. We here watch them all the time

1087
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: and talk about him constantly. The deep was number two

1088
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: or three in the league last year in yards allowed,

1089
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: but they never really faced an offense that really was

1090
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: forced to do many desperate things to try and stay

1091
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: in the game that their offense, the Bills offense struggled

1092
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: to score points. So from that perspective, if the Bills

1093
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: offense does improve, what will that do to the productivity

1094
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: of this defense if they are tested a little bit

1095
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: more than they were a year ago. Well look, I mean,

1096
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I think if the Bill's offense is more successful, you're

1097
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: going to see obviously offenses opposing offenses. You're going to

1098
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: see more of a passing game. You know, there's going

1099
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: to be more of an up and down, you know, pace,

1100
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: a tempo. I think that's part of why a guy

1101
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: like at Oliver gets addressed in the draft. You know,

1102
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: you know that eventually the goal here offensively is to

1103
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: score points, and this has become a league that's so

1104
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: passing predicated. You have to be able to rush the

1105
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: past or not just from the edge, not just schematically,

1106
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: but I think even from the middle of the defensive line.

1107
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: And I you know, I live in Houston, saw at

1108
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: Oliver for a number of years. Uh, you know, play

1109
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: for for um obviously college there, and fantastic talent. I

1110
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: was very impressed with the cutoffs I saw of him,

1111
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: uh you know, versus Indianapolis. I thought that, you know,

1112
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: there were some real actual reps that you know, you

1113
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: could grade out. Um, you know, facing some some what

1114
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: I think is probably one of the best young offensive

1115
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: lines in the NFL. I think, I think, look, defensively,

1116
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: you're just going to have to be able to get

1117
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, to the past or It's just how it is.

1118
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: It's how the league is, and depending on how the

1119
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: health of obviously the other teams in the division go. Um,

1120
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think Buffalo can plan on being in

1121
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you know a lot of games where Josh Allen's gonna

1122
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball to win. Back to Josh

1123
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: Allen for a second, if you would please Charleston. You

1124
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: mentioned in your initial comments about how your observation to

1125
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: Josh during Tuesday's practice was that the scouting reports have

1126
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: proven to be accurate. What did you see that make

1127
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: you make you believe that? What are your friend too? Well?

1128
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, I still think the accuracy obviously is something

1129
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: that that is is in development. Remember I was there

1130
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: for the first day. You know, I think he probably,

1131
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: at least from what I read and had a chance to,

1132
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, exchange a phone call with somebody there, that

1133
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice was probably his sharper practice with the two um,

1134
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, the two practices, although it seems to me

1135
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: as both offenses Honestly, Caroline and uh Buffalo both kind

1136
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: of had the more successful two day run. But um,

1137
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, I when when I watched him, Um, you know,

1138
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: there was a hit, a couple of deep balls that

1139
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: were pretty nice, you know, one that was you know,

1140
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: about a good five yards ahead of his target. You know,

1141
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: I think part of it still dialing in that chemistry,

1142
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: particularly deep um. But I also think that part of

1143
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: what's really going to help him this season is maybe

1144
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: having some more reliable short options in the game. You know, Look,

1145
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. I was in Dallas probably you know a

1146
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: half dozen times last season, and I can tell you

1147
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: there are people in their pro personnel department that are

1148
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: really disappointed to lose Cole Beasley because they know, particularly

1149
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, what an effective piece he can be

1150
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, providing some momentum, a lot

1151
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: of short area security for a quarterback like Dak Prescott.

1152
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I think he's going to fill that role, you know,

1153
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: to a pretty high degree with the Buffalo Bills. But

1154
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: it's just the processing aspect of Josh Allen calling the plays,

1155
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: moving things quickly and then diagnosing what he's being processing it,

1156
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: making the right decision, but not just making the right decision,

1157
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: making the right throw and putting the ball in the

1158
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: area where guys can catch it. That's going to be

1159
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: the patient process I think for the Bills. Yeah, we're

1160
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: talking to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports. I gotta ask

1161
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: you too. With Josh Allen being such the focal point

1162
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: of the development of the offense, have the Bills done

1163
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: enough to give him enough help on the offensive line

1164
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: and outside as you mentioned in the running back position,

1165
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: the tight end position, have they done enough to give

1166
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: him a chance a success. Uh well, I mean, to

1167
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: be honestly, I think you would know that better than

1168
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: I would, just having seen them in this short period

1169
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: of time that I've seen them. Mean, obviously, look, the

1170
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: offensive line is something that that chemistry clearly still being

1171
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: worked out. There's still some positions that I think are

1172
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: a little bit up in the air. I don't I

1173
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's ever anything, particularly in a in a

1174
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: one off season situation where you've had Josh Allen gets

1175
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: starts as a rookie and then the first off season.

1176
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to I think, really flood the zone with options,

1177
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: especially if you're not going to go, hey, we're just

1178
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: going to blow it out in free agency. You know,

1179
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna make a pigeon and try to add an

1180
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham or an Antonio Brown or whatever. You know.

1181
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: I think that was obviously but they feel it a

1182
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: call from the Giants and Odell Beckham said no, they

1183
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: looked at Antonio Brown. It's not like this wasn't something

1184
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: that that was on their mind. I think it's smart

1185
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: to be a little more patient about, you know, how

1186
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: they're adding pieces for him. I do think Beasley's a

1187
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: good pick up offensive line wise. You know, it's it's

1188
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: hard for me to know, particularly where offensive lines are

1189
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: going to be until we see what the health situation

1190
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: is as we get closer to September and how some

1191
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: of these positions are sorted out. But I still think

1192
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: the way that they're building, to me, it looks like

1193
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: the one thing I would really compare it to is

1194
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: years ago watching Green Bay build up to that Super

1195
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Bowl and really try to make sure that once they

1196
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: hit that Super Bowl, their roster was filled with ninety

1197
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: percent of the guys that they've gone out and selected, groomed,

1198
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: built the right way, rather than trying to sort of

1199
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: microwave it. I feel like that's what I see with Buffalo.

1200
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: They're not trying to microwave this situation. They're trying to

1201
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: patiently build. We're on the line with Charles Robinson, Senior writer,

1202
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Yahoo's Sports. Charles, what do you think of the Panthers?

1203
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: You gotta look at them on Tuesday down in Spartanburg.

1204
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: Also more talented than I thought, to be honest with you,

1205
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, I came in and you know the safety

1206
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: situation with you know, Eric Reed, Trey Boss. Then I

1207
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: think is definitely a strength. Boston's obviously a guy they

1208
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: added late, you know, Gerald McCoy. I think it'll be

1209
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: interesting to see what he can add. I think he

1210
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: needed a change of scenery to get out of UM,

1211
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, Tampa Bay, and I just think top to

1212
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: bottom defensively, you know, there's talent there. Brian Burns looked

1213
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: really good. I watched him quite a bit in one

1214
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: on ones and then offensively, a lot of mismatch opportunities.

1215
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: I frankly, I think that you know, in the NFC South,

1216
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: that should definitely be a team that should be competing

1217
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: for the top of that division, even with the New

1218
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: Orleans UM. You know, I think the pressure is there

1219
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: for Ron Rivera and really offensive offensive coordinator North Turner

1220
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: to produce this year. And then obviously Cam Newton too,

1221
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I think, bounce back from from the shoulder surgery. So

1222
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: it's it is a talented roster. I think is a

1223
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: very good team to have, you know, full squad practices against.

1224
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: I think it'll be really beneficial for Buffalo in the

1225
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: long run, to be honestly, l Ron Rivera said something

1226
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: yesterday that we've talked a lot on our show, Steve

1227
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: and I about the eighteen game schedule proposal and what

1228
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: a schedule might look like where the NFL is going.

1229
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera suggested yesterday that these type of joint practices,

1230
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: like the Bills in Carolina just completed, maybe have a

1231
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: place to have a role to play in an alternative preseason.

1232
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Do you have any

1233
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: thoughts on what preseason should look like and maybe what

1234
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: the regular season should be down the road. I think

1235
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that if that were to ever to

1236
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: come to pass, the eighteen game schedule, I think you'd

1237
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: see a lot of the joint practices. I would expect

1238
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: they would clip probably two preseason games. Now, financially, I

1239
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: don't know what that would mean, you know, for the

1240
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: NFL to clip those two preseason games, because they you know,

1241
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: they are still lucrative for a number of franchises. But

1242
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, the problem I think when you talk to

1243
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: teams about clipping preseason games is that those are where

1244
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: you end up, you know, sorting out the bottom end

1245
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: of your fifty three man roster. I mean there are

1246
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: usually you know, four or five spots, depending on how

1247
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: good your team is, um that that end up getting

1248
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: sort of sorted out, and then also some of the

1249
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: depth chart. You know, it's the order of the depth

1250
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: chart solidifies between you know, backups, third string guys. Yeah,

1251
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: we heard you. You said that you've been to a

1252
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: lot of different teams and in these joint practices, uh

1253
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: may become the norm. What was your point? Yeah, I

1254
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: just know. I just think that, you know, the joint practices.

1255
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: Teams clearly see these as being more beneficial than game situation.

1256
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, somewhat more beneficial than game situations where you're

1257
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: exposing veterans to injury and it's just a more containable environment.

1258
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: And so I don't I don't think there's any question

1259
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: that you know, coaching staffs are definitely behind the joint practices.

1260
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: It's just the eighteen game schedule. You have to sell

1261
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: players on how injuries will work, you know, with a

1262
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: with an expanded regular season. Yeah. One of the things

1263
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: that now I want to about you mentioned that you'd

1264
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: been to some other places. I wondered if you'd been

1265
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: to New York scene. Sam Darneld, he entered his second

1266
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: season a lot like our own. Josh Allen, what is

1267
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: the vibe coming out of Sam Darnold in the Jets camp.

1268
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: How are they looking? Yeah, I did. I did get

1269
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: up there to see the Jets a little over a

1270
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: week ago. You know, there there, it's another team that

1271
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: you know has some talent on the roster. I mean,

1272
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnan, despite being fired there did not leave the cupboard. Bear.

1273
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how the coaching dynamic works out.

1274
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, you have Adam Gays, who's a really intense guy.

1275
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: Greg william who's Greg Williams is a really intense guy.

1276
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: It kind of felt when I was there like you're

1277
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: sort of looking at two teams. You're looking at Greg

1278
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Williams in the defense, You're looking at Adam Gays in

1279
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: the offense. Sam Darnold, still work in progress, probably had

1280
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: his worst practice of the preseason up to that point

1281
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: when I was there, and it was interesting to me

1282
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: when he came off after that practice, You're kind of like, Okay,

1283
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: let me see if he's upset about this, and he was.

1284
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: He was furious that the offense had really struggled in practice.

1285
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: I think they're they feel like leadership wise, he's definitely

1286
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, starting to take a step forward, and you

1287
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: know they're seeing the things that they want to see

1288
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: out of him. But it'll it'll be interesting. I mean

1289
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: it's look, Adam Gates is there to develop Sam Donald.

1290
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But that's also a question

1291
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: where do they have all the offensive pieces, particularly amongst

1292
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: the wide receiving corps in the tight end position to

1293
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: get it done. They love Chris Herndon, but this is

1294
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna miss four games, you know, to

1295
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: start the season because of suspension. They need that continuity now,

1296
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think they're a little nervous about the first

1297
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: six games of that schedule. In the Bills obviously are

1298
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: in that first six games. Charles, I love the article

1299
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: you wrote about Sam Donald on Yahoo about how he

1300
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: really didn't want to wish happy Birthday to Tom Brady.

1301
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: That showed kind of an edginess to Donald that I

1302
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: did not know was there. Yeah, Yeah, I was with you.

1303
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you there, Like I think it

1304
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: was something that surprised me a little bit. I happened

1305
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: to be out in LA when some different players were

1306
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: shooting commercials and quite a few players kind of went

1307
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: through this sort of social media situation where they were

1308
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: asking players to wish Sam wish Tom Brady a happy birthday.

1309
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: You know, Drew Bredes did it, Deshaun Watson, you know,

1310
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley. There were a number of guys who

1311
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: went through, and then they got to Sam Darnald and

1312
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: he just said no, He's like, I'm not going to

1313
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: wish him a happy birthday. And I think it kind

1314
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: of floored people in that moment because it was like,

1315
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: really like, You're not going to do it. And then,

1316
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, I waited until I saw him in camp

1317
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: ask him about it later, and you know, he expressed

1318
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: and what I ended up writing is he's just like, look,

1319
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: I have to I'm expected to compete with him. That's

1320
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: how Tom would have handled the situation. And whether it's

1321
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: July or February or mid October, I have to make

1322
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: sure I'm always not giving him any kind of an edge.

1323
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: And he felt like even wishing the guy happy birthday

1324
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: would have been giving something away to Tom Brady. And

1325
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: he's like, I cannot give anything away. I like that. Hey,

1326
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, a lot of the spotlight

1327
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: is turning towards America's team Dallas Cowboys with their contract situations,

1328
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: and you wrote a post on yahoo dot com where

1329
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: you said the Cowboys may have missed time this right

1330
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: by letting the Eagles go first with their deal for

1331
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, that maybe the Cowboys have misstime whatever deal

1332
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: they have in mind for Dak Prescott. Is that what

1333
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Yeah, I mean I think they did. Looked

1334
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: at Eagles when they went into the off season. There

1335
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of talk about like, oh, they have

1336
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: to get this this extension done. Carson once had two

1337
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: years left on his deal when you factored in his

1338
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: fifth year option, and the Eagles said, look, we don't

1339
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: want to sit here and let the Cowboys go to

1340
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: the table at Dak Prescott and potentially dramatically affect the

1341
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: quarterback market and push us into numbers that we're not

1342
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Why don't we just find our ground now

1343
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: and instead, let's turn the tables on the Cowboys. Let's

1344
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: let's establish what we think the numbers should be and

1345
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: let them deal with it. And and really that's what happened.

1346
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean with incentives. You know, Carson Wentz signed an

1347
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: extension that you know settles in it with the incentives

1348
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: at about thirty four million dollars per season, and that impacted,

1349
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott's negotiations. And I know there's been

1350
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: some bluster about this idea that well, did he or

1351
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: didn't he, you know, start at forty million dollars per season.

1352
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was told flat out they're trying to

1353
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: get to the Russell Wilson contract, which is a thirty

1354
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: five million dollars per year average in an extension. And

1355
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: if you want to get to thirty five you probably

1356
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: started forty million. So they but they did have to

1357
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: factor in you know that once number. I think Dallas

1358
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: wanted to get get in with Dak Prescott at about

1359
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: thirty million. As soon as Carson Wants signed that that extension,

1360
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, bare minimum thirty four million was something that

1361
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott's camp was going to have to get to.

1362
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: So it did. There was a ripple effect that I

1363
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: think the Eagles caused or created in the Dak Prescott negotiation.

1364
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: I like the point you two, and it was part

1365
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: of this post that you believe the Eagles are the

1366
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: best in the NFL. It's salary cap management, which is important.

1367
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that if you would, Charles, Yeah,

1368
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: I you know, I think It's interesting when you see

1369
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: all the general manager hires nowadays. Everybody talks about picking

1370
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: players and evaluation and being able to you know, pick

1371
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: a staff and you know overall team management, all these

1372
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: different things. But what you don't often hear about is

1373
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: do we think this guy knows how to manage a

1374
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: salary cap? Can he work with our cap guys to

1375
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: to try to keep us in an advantageous situation with

1376
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: the market. It's such an underrated skill and Howie Rosen

1377
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: has done a great job of that in Philadelphia. He

1378
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: If anything, I feel like the Eagles over the past

1379
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: few years had been you know, criticized a little bit

1380
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: for signing guys to extensions maybe a little too early,

1381
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: and two deals that at the time didn't look great.

1382
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, Fletcher Cox. I think when they signed him,

1383
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: that deal was in the six team to seventeen million

1384
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: dollars a year range, which looks really good now for

1385
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: what your god. Yeah, So you know, I think they

1386
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: have been adept at saying let's let's get if we

1387
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: if we focus in on someone on our roster, we

1388
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: believe in them and we think they're a cornerstone. Let's

1389
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: not worry about dedicating guaranteed money and having two hundred

1390
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: million dollars of guaranteed money sitting on our roster, let's

1391
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: just do it and get ahead of the market rather

1392
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: than being reactionary. And if you just weigh that against

1393
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: what's what Dallas is going through right now, a very

1394
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: reactionary situation for Dallas, particularly with Dak Prescott, and that's

1395
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: put them in a tough spot. So Philadelphia has done

1396
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: a really good job. Their their roster is very much

1397
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: solidified for the next few years without any contract problems

1398
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: coming on the horizon. And I think a lot of

1399
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: that has been due to just making sure you stay

1400
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: ahead of the market really important. Do you think Zeke

1401
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: Elliott and Dallas are still far apart in their track

1402
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: negotiations and how ugly is it gonna get if they are? Yeah?

1403
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: I do. I think they're still far apart, you know.

1404
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: I They're both sitting there and they're staring right now

1405
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: at each other and trying to quantify what the offense

1406
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: looks like in this in these preseason games. So Dallas

1407
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: went through the first preseason game, Tony Pollard got a

1408
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: few touches. Dallas has made sure they're saying a lot

1409
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: of really good things about Tony Pollard, who obviously would

1410
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: would take over for Zeke's touches if the regular season

1411
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: were to start today. But I think, you know Ezekiel

1412
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: Elliott's camp, they want to see what that offense looks

1413
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: like through the first three preseason games, what the first

1414
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: team offense, you know, how it shapes up. And I think, frankly,

1415
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: I think Dallas's personnel department does too. That's where this

1416
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: pressure and leverage is going to come from. And then frankly,

1417
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones I think tipped his hand a little bit

1418
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: and said, look, when you get into the regular season,

1419
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 1: if Zeke's not out there, that's when you really start

1420
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: to become pressured as a franchise. A little surprising your

1421
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: Jerry admit that, But that's true. And you know Ezekiel

1422
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: Elliott camp knows that. And I think they're sitting there saying, look,

1423
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: we're willing to sit out games to create that pressure,

1424
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: and surprisingly j Jerry basically admitted that's where the pressure

1425
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: will come from. I was like, I got one more

1426
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: for you, and it's about another NFC team, the Rams.

1427
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: You have. You wrote a really good post about Sean

1428
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: McVay admitting he screwed up coaching in the Super Bowl

1429
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: loss last year. How did he screw up? And what

1430
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: does that mean for this year? How does that serve

1431
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: as motivation for la? Yeah, it was. It was pretty interesting.

1432
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: I had a chance to spend some time with Sean

1433
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the Super Bowl and um,

1434
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, he to sort of paraphrase him in the

1435
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: middle of the conversation, you just said, yeah, I blew it.

1436
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, I knew I blew it in the Super Bowl.

1437
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: And I was kind of expecting him to say, you know,

1438
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: I was watching film a week later or the day

1439
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: after or whatever, and I said, you know, what do

1440
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: you mean you blew And he said, well, we I

1441
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: should have known that what I thought the Patriots would

1442
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: be what we prepared for. I should have known we

1443
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: should we should say what haven't they been? How could

1444
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 1: they change their spots? And let's create scenarios for that,

1445
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: And instead they didn't do that. They just looked at

1446
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: what had the Patriots been successful with, Let's make sure

1447
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: we're prepared for that, instead of saying, what haven't they

1448
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: done at all? And you know, I said, well, when,

1449
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, when did you realize this thinking, you know,

1450
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: it's a week later watching film. He's like, no, in

1451
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the game, Like I knew in the

1452
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: middle of the game that I had blown the two

1453
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: week lead up, you know, to the Super Bowl, and

1454
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: it was it was stunning to hear someone admit that,

1455
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: you know, and he but he wants to be completely

1456
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: upfront about, you know what he felt like his responsibility

1457
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: was in the poor offensive performance. And I talked to

1458
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Demoff, the team president, later about it, and I said,

1459
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: I was I was shocked to hear Sean admit it

1460
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: like that. The way that he did that was so like,

1461
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of raw and kind of vulnerable. And Demoff said,

1462
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: you know what the reaction has been to that, And

1463
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: I said what he said. Everybody the organizations sitting there going,

1464
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: I can't skate on the things I screw up because

1465
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: the head coach is literally standing here saying, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest game of my entire life, I

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Speaker 1: completely blew the preparation for it. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: been a positive for the RAM because they feel like

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Speaker 1: they have a guy at the front who steps up

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Speaker 1: and it wants to take all the accountability and so

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Speaker 1: now you have players and even other executives in the

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Speaker 1: organization who are going If he's taking accountability like that,

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Speaker 1: I have to look at myself and know where I

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Speaker 1: screwed up and take accountability too. That's a tough, strong leadership. Yeah, hey, Charles,

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Speaker 1: thanks for this great stuff. We enjoy your writing and

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: we love getting a chance to talk to you once

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Speaker 1: in a while. Thank you very much, absolutely, fellows, always

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Speaker 1: my pleasure to take care. Charles Robinson is a senior

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Speaker 1: writer for Yahoo Sports, covering the NFL. He's been covering

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Speaker 1: the NFL for Yahoo for about fifteen years. Now, Happy,

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Speaker 1: I am on the line with us. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about that. Sean, I'm MC based up,

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Speaker 1: but we'll take a break first. All right, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: coming back. We are in Charlotte, North Carolina. One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Collida Health, and this is Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: reading Welcome back one Bills Live from Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills on their way here. They should be

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: leaving right about now and get up here and about

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Speaker 1: an hour and fifteen minutes or so, and they'll go

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: through their normal pregame day routine. The day before game day,

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: Steve and I got the jump where the advanced team

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: for the Bills here today. We got here last night

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: joined some Carolina barbecue, although the guy kept telling us

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01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: it was Texas style barbecue, a little more Texas. They

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: did have the they didn't have the East Carolina barbecue sauce.

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Speaker 1: Off that there was kind of a thing there that

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Speaker 1: was kind of the orange sauce rather than the brown

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Speaker 1: maplea sauce kind of stuff. Hey, we're talking. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Bills getting set for this game Toronto and

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Speaker 1: against Carolina and the season ahead, and which late round

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: Bills draft pick could have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen.

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call eight O

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Love to

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01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: hear from you on the air. Love to get your

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01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: vote on the Twitter poll at one Bill's live sending

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: a tweet, we could read it on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: Which late round Bills draft pick could have the biggest

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Speaker 1: impact this year. More than six hundred seventy votes in

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Speaker 1: so far, and it's a close. One thirty eight percent

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: of you say seventh round picked Darryl Johnson, the defensive

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: end from North Carolina A and T we'll have the

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Speaker 1: biggest impact. Thirty seven percent of you say tight end

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney from Boston College will have the biggest impact.

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01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: Nineteen percent of you say linebacker of Sean Joseph from

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01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: Florida will have the biggest impact. Six percent of you

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: say safety Jikwan Johnson from the University of Miami will

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Speaker 1: have the biggest impact. Let's know what you think. It's

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: wide open eight three fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. I can't pick one yet.

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. I don't know who it is.

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to know when you write maybe they won't.

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: But it's interesting too because when you have to think

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01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: about which one's gonna make the biggest impact, you think

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: where it's gonna be. You Tommy Sweeney, Darryl Johnson. Do

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna be a down and distance kind

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 1: of guy? You know what I mean? The Sean Joseph,

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: from what we've seen, he's a backup linebacker at this point.

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: Well in Darryl Johnson's a backup defensive end. But you

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: know what would happen? How do you envision them making

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: a contradinption Tommy Sweeney, you think, man, he's got a chance.

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01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: Now he's the number one tight end on the roster,

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: right because all those guys are down. It's injury. Now,

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when they get healthy? Do you think

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: it's going to continue? Is he going to take this

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: opportunity and all those guys that come back are gonna

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: be suddenly plugged right back in a in front of him?

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01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: Knowing this coaching staff. I have my doubts, you know,

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: I have my doubts. And when they're healthy, when they're healthy,

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they get plugged in right at

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01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: the number one spot. Jason Krum comes back, all of

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01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's taking reps with the number one. Does

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox come back and get plugged in right back

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01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: into the number ones? I don't know if that's the case,

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: given what Tommy Sweeney has been able to do. And

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about Tyler Croft when he comes back

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: whenever it is with the investment they have and Tyler Croft,

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: that's a great question, thank you. He's been gone a

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01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: long time. He's been gone a long time, and they're

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna evaluate him. And here's what will happen to.

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: When he starts to do some things, He'll get closer.

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: This way, he'll get closer to playing, closer to playing.

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01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: He'll start doing more and more on the side. Then

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: he'll start taking individuals. Then he'll start taking some reps

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01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: without contact. Then he'll start you know, then he'll work

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: back into and all of a sudden he's out there

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: full go and they start plugging him in. Well, if

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: every time they plug him in, he's not gonna be

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: ready to go, like week whatever. If he's healthy in

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: week three or four, are they gonna plug him in

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: right away in week three or four after having worked

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01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: up to being able to take full reps? Are they

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna go with the guys that have been taking full reps?

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: They got a game to get ready for, right So

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: that's gonna be how they handle that time to get Yeah,

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: they don't have time to get ready. They don't have

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: time to get him up to speed. Now, certainly he'll

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: be in the meetings. He knows what he's doing on

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: an intellectual level, but he has never run through it

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: and that's a big question mark. How much better do

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: they think he's gonna be than Dawson Knocks if they

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: plug him in right away? Read some of your responses

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: to this question on the tweet sheet. It is brought

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of

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01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. The tweet sheet which late round pick

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Speaker 1: would make the biggest impact in twenty nineteen From Zach,

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01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: Zach says, Vashan Joseph, for sure, he has that hard

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Speaker 1: hitting factor. He played extremely well the first game. Now,

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: Zach's response looks pretty simple and straightforward, but you know

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Speaker 1: what it speaks to me, and he's not wrong about this.

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Speaker 1: Steve Sean McDermott has said in the spring, especially about

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Speaker 1: how he wants to have a more physical team. He

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: wants his defense to be more physical. If Sean Joseph

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01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,919
Speaker 1: is out there smacking people around, that kind of answers exactly.

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've relayed this by the way to Joseph,

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: but it almost answers exactly what the Sean mcdermot's looking

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Speaker 1: for defensively, right and if he does it more than

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: the guys ahead of him, well, that says a lot.

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the John Feliciano, the offensive cars.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: They all they talk about is how tough and gritty

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01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: he is. They don't, you know, they don't describe him

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: any other way. But that guy's in there a lot.

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: He's being rotated in. Then both guards and the center

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01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: there they like what he brings to the table. And

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01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: if the Sean Joseph is sitting there seeing that, well,

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: you know what, that's what I'm gonna give him. And

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Speaker 1: that's how you get on the field. Certainly you can

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01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: start on special teams as a backup or whatever, but

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: when you play in these preseason games, you bring that

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: to the table. We said it yesterday and we've said

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: it all along this coaching stabb more so than any other.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: If you're earning it, they're giving it to you. They

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01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: don't care. If you're not making money, they don't care.

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: If this guy's on the roster for big money that

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: if you're giving him what they want football wise, the

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01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 1: finances take a back seat. It hasn't always been that

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: case in the in the NFL. It's not that case

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: on every team in the NFL, but on this one

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01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: it's been pretty much. It's cut in Stone the football

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01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: player and whoever he is and whatever he's doing, if

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01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: he's better, he's on the field, no matter what he's making,

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01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: no matter how old he is or where he was drafted.

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: One more vote, and this is from James. I say,

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: if his Jean Joseph, when the tight ends get healthy,

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: Sweeney will not get much playing time when that happens.

1616
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: D line is deep, linebackers not a lot of depth,

1617
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: and believe he'll get a chance with injuries and a

1618
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: likely possibility for the linebackers talking about Vashon Joseph maybe

1619
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: stepping in if somebody tweaks an ankle or goes down

1620
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: or just gets to be rotated in because there's just

1621
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: not that many guys there that can play. He's going

1622
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: to get more opportunities that way. And of course Sweeney

1623
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: has gotten his opportunity large in large part because of

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: the injuries that eventually will go away. Looking at my

1625
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: depth chart and thinking about linebacker depth which James tweeted

1626
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: about there and look and this is something to watch

1627
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: and we don't know and we expect, you know, to

1628
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: give a clue at some point, maybe by tomorrow. Show

1629
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: about injuries and who's in, who's out. Corey Thompson is

1630
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: a guy to watch who got banged up a little

1631
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: bit down in Spartanburg, missed some reps. I know, the

1632
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: second year linebacker from LSU one of my favorite candidates

1633
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: for more playing time on the roster. But does he

1634
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: play this week? I don't know, And if he doesn't,

1635
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: that could mean good things for Vashon Joseph and the

1636
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: number if he gets the number of reps he gets

1637
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: against Carolina. Maurice Alexander, six year veteran outside linebacker from

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01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: Utah State, also in the same boat. So we'll see,

1639
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Things that might be happening

1640
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: right now that will impact what kind of a look

1641
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: but Sean Joseph gets when the Bills make their decision

1642
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: about who's playing wear and who's backing up poo with

1643
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: the lineman, yeah a little. It's the players individually. It's

1644
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: all about them. They've got to think about how they're playing,

1645
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing, doing their job doing, you know, growing

1646
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: and showing the coaches how much they've grown, being more

1647
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: successful today than you were yesterday when you're going head

1648
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: to head against another player. For the coaches, though they

1649
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: not only see that growth, and they see your potential.

1650
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: They try and see your upside, which you're trying to

1651
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: show them, and they see your hard work. They see

1652
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: all that, but they're also comparing everything you've got to

1653
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: this other guy, and that's that goes into their evaluation

1654
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: the players. It's more of an individual thing. And I

1655
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: said this last week on our broadcast, when when these

1656
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 1: threes and fours start to rotate in in these games,

1657
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: it's the one time in a football season where the

1658
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: game becomes an indo visual sport. It becomes about you

1659
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: doing your job every time in a way that catches

1660
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: the coach's eye and in a way that exactly is

1661
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: exactly what they want you to do. It's the only time,

1662
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: really in professional football where it's more of an individual

1663
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: sport than it is a team sport. That's when those

1664
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: three and fours in the preseason go in there, because

1665
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: that's how they're being evaluated strictly on an individual basis.

1666
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: So you've got that going on with your an individual

1667
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of doing that. So they see your growth, they

1668
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: see where you were two weeks ago, and they see

1669
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: where you are now, and they project what your top

1670
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: end is. And then of course they take this other

1671
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: guy who's maybe a veteran who's had some opportunities, and

1672
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: they say his top end, they kind of have an

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: idea about his top end, his production now versus his

1674
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: top end which he may or may not be at,

1675
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: versus where you are now and your top end where

1676
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: you're not quite there yet, And they've got to make

1677
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: a choice between those two and it all goes into

1678
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: that evaluation process these young players, like we're talking about

1679
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: these young back into the draft guys, these first year guys,

1680
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: all of that. That's why it's so tough to build

1681
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: a football team. There's so many intangibles and things that

1682
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: are intertwined that you got to discern from and learn

1683
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: from it. It's a gargantuan task. It is so which

1684
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: late round pick can make the biggest impact this year.

1685
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: That's kind of our topic of the day. We will

1686
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: revisit that before we get to the break. Steve, I

1687
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: want to kind of revisit something that Charles Robinson talked

1688
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: about a minute ago, because I did read his post.

1689
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: I read a couple of his posts this morning getting

1690
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: ready to do the interview, and what he wrote about

1691
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: the meeting he had with Sean McVeigh McVeigh. Reviewing the

1692
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: Rams performance in the Super Bowl against the Patriots, McVay

1693
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: basically admitted that he screwed up, and Charles talked about it.

1694
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: McVay said, I realized in game that I had not

1695
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: prepared for what the Patriots We're going to do. We

1696
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: prepared for what we had seen the Patriots to do

1697
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: all along. Did not prepare for what the Patriots might do.

1698
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: And boy, what a blow that must be to be

1699
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: in the biggest game of your life as a coach

1700
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: on the sidelines in game, Shoot, we're not ready. I

1701
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 1: didn't do my job. We're unprepared. That's gotta be That's

1702
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: gotta be heartbreaking to be on that side, absolutely, because

1703
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: you feel a great sense of duty to your players

1704
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: to be ready for that and as and particularly a

1705
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: guy like Sean McVeigh, who has made his reputation as

1706
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: young as it is and as early as it is

1707
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: in his coaching career as a head coach, to know

1708
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,440
Speaker 1: that that's why he's there is because he's an intellectual

1709
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 1: guy who can prepare his guys and have all the

1710
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: exs and those answers, and to be going too that

1711
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: game and know that on the other side, they have

1712
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: prepared their team in a way that was totally unexpected

1713
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: by you. And that's because it falls right on his

1714
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: shoulders and he's and what a guy to say, you

1715
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: know what, that was my my bad and to take

1716
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: and to step up. And it's huge for that organization

1717
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: to have your read coach say you know what, guys,

1718
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: that's on me um and it's it's humble and I

1719
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: can see how as Charles said, the rest of the

1720
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: RAMS organization is like, well, shoo. If the head coach

1721
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: admits he wasn't ready, then it's up to us to

1722
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: be ready to take our lumpset for now. This tremendous

1723
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,839
Speaker 1: leadership on his part, because it sets a great precedent

1724
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: over accountability at the highest level of the organization and

1725
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 1: the willingness to take it on yourself publicly. Your players

1726
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: will then, as you said, Murph, they're looking at themselves going, wow,

1727
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: if I gotta mind my p's and ques now, because

1728
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: I've got I've got to be able to do that

1729
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: publicly as well. It's a it's a huge and it's

1730
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: a great great testament to Sean McVeigh and his abilities

1731
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: as a head coach. The popular reaction in a situation

1732
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: like that, it seems to me might be butt covering, Right,

1733
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to disguise that I wasn't ready for this.

1734
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to say something else. But no, he went

1735
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: the other way. Nope, on me, I wasn't ready. That's amazing.

1736
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: It's a great sense. Even though you take whatever consequences

1737
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: admitting that take comes with you know, you take the

1738
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, the verbal beating, the pr nightmare that your

1739
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: organization wasn't ready and it was your responsibility and all

1740
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: of that stuff, but you take it as an opportunity

1741
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: to make your team better this next year. It makes

1742
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: you better this year year, It helps you this year. Yeah,

1743
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: last year is what it is. We got to the

1744
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Awesome. It's a really nice year that we had.

1745
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: But let's use the tragedy of the super Bowl and

1746
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: make ourselves better this year. It's a great testament to

1747
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity that he took there, and you

1748
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: got to really tip your hat to him. Hey, we

1749
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 1: still have not played for you, some of Leslie Frazier's comments.

1750
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: Maybe when we get to that when we come back,

1751
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 1: we keep pushing it off. We got to Andrew Catalan

1752
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: standing by to join us at two o'clock today. He'll

1753
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: call the play by play on TV of the Bills

1754
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: and the Panthers tomorrow night. A break here One Bills

1755
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Live presented by Callida Health from Charlotte, North Carolina. And

1756
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills reading One Bills Live from Charlotte,

1757
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina. The Buffalo Bills team players and coaches on

1758
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: their way up here by bus as we speak from Spartanburg,

1759
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: South Carolina, where they practiced again into the Carolina Panthers

1760
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: for the last couple of days Tuesday and Wednesday. After

1761
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 1: yesterday's workout, Bill's defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier met with the

1762
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: media and talking about how good these workouts were for

1763
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: his defense. I think it was really good to see

1764
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: a different offense and different personnel, and you know, the competition,

1765
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: the intensity of practices is a little bit different because

1766
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: you're going against guys you're not familiar with. So I

1767
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: think that'll be a plus for us to be in

1768
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: this environment and break him a nat what training camp

1769
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: can be like. Obviously, Jerry's a very emotional player. He

1770
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: got real emotional that I practice. What was that all about? Well,

1771
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's Jared. That's who he is. Whether we're

1772
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: playing marbles playing football. Jerry is a very intense guy

1773
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: and doesn't take much to get him going. That's part

1774
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: of what makes him such a great player. He plays

1775
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 1: with so much intensity and passion for the game. And

1776
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 1: it was evidence today and he's somebody that I feel

1777
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: like as a veteranan, as a guy that does play

1778
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of fire. He holds people to a

1779
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: standard or even the second and third teams, Oh, no

1780
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: doubt about it. I mean that Ashton is not just

1781
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: for the first team. I mean he's getting out of

1782
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: the second group, the third group, making sure that our

1783
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: standard is being ad here too. So you love that

1784
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: in Jared. You love that passion, you love that homeer

1785
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: that it has, and you're right, it raises the level

1786
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: of play about other players as well. How would you

1787
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: assess and I know you're still going to probably watch

1788
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: practice date from today, coach, but just the consistency of

1789
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: the execution against you know, an opponent where they haven't

1790
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: seen him for twelve days in a row and may

1791
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: not be able to anticipate in the same way, How

1792
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: is the consistency of its execution here as a group. Yeah, Yeah,

1793
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was really good. You know, Chris Hunter's circumstances.

1794
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're not scouting them. We're just lining up

1795
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: and practicing against another opponent, someone that we haven't really seen.

1796
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: And I thought our guys handled the things that we

1797
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: wanted to get accomplished. Good fundamentals, good techniques. I mean,

1798
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: that's what we're working on this time in training camp.

1799
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: And you know, once we get into scheming first and

1800
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: second and third down and all those things in situations,

1801
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: that's a whole different matter. But right now, I thought

1802
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the consistency just with you know, without looking at everything

1803
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: from the day, but from yesterday was really good. And

1804
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: then Munderling and you know you're working him in now

1805
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: at the nickel, you know, you kind of got him

1806
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: up to speed. Not that he needed a full handbook

1807
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: on how to play in this defense. How is he

1808
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: kind of blending here in the early going, And do

1809
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: you think it's enough where he can get an opportunity

1810
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the week in the preseason game. Yeah,

1811
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean his familiarity with the scheme definitely helps him.

1812
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: The fact that he hasn't been involved in football for

1813
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: quite a while now. It kind of sets him back

1814
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, So we're trying to get him up

1815
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: the speed from a conditioning standpoint, but the mental part,

1816
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much there. So we're gonna try

1817
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: to get him in for a few steps in the

1818
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: ballgame on Friday night. We're working him in slowly on defense.

1819
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: All these a couple of days we've had, but we're

1820
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna try to get him out there and just see

1821
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: where he is from a conditioning standpoint. And then just

1822
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: rotating Kevin Johnson through with the ones playing both sides

1823
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: is not just an exercise in getting him accustomed to

1824
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: maybe playing off some of those other starting players that

1825
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a lot of time on the field with.

1826
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Is that part of it or that's that's part of it,

1827
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: and also trying to develop the rotation. You know, you

1828
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: went injury away from a guy like Kevin to having

1829
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 1: to play, so you got to get him some reps

1830
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: on both sides. And the fact that we lost EJ

1831
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: two injury reserves, so you know, you got to get

1832
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: that third and fourth corner position right, and we think

1833
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: Kevin has a chance to really be our third corner,

1834
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: so you try to rotate him both ways and give

1835
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: him a lot of different looks and just let him

1836
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: get his confidence back too, because as you can recall,

1837
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: it's been a while since he's had a lot of

1838
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: live situations. I know, I don't need to tell you

1839
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: the athlete that Tremaine is. But sixteen yards down the field,

1840
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: he's covering an all pro tight end and he's knocking

1841
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: him out of bounds and taking up a play. How

1842
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: rare and unique is there? Very impressive because Greg Olsen

1843
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: is one of the best tight ends Pastoral steven tight

1844
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: ends in the National Football League. So to see him

1845
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: run down the field, stride for stride and make a

1846
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: play like he did, I mean, you go like wow.

1847
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: And this is only his second season in the league

1848
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: against a guy like that, I mean, the sky's a

1849
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: limit for what he's capable of being able to do.

1850
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: We've seen daily, you know, the course of training camp,

1851
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: him working one on one for you know, minutes on

1852
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: minutes with Bobby Babbage. When you when you guys download

1853
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what kind of progress

1854
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: reports is Bobby bringing back to you about all the

1855
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: work that he's doing, the mental work. It seems like Tremaine. Well,

1856
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: Bob does a lot of work with Tremaine. He and

1857
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: John edgarugu on a lot of his techniques and fundamentals,

1858
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: and the reports have all been positive. I mean, his

1859
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: maturation over the last few weeks has been tremendous. And

1860
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: the area that we wanted to work on over to

1861
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: someone was really his man and man coverage, and we

1862
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: talked about that prior to He's going away for summer

1863
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: break and you can see by the way he's practicing

1864
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: he's improved in that area. And that's who he is.

1865
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys who's gonna work on

1866
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and perceived weakness that he has and the results are

1867
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: what we're seeing now. You're seeing McCaffrey running around out there. Yeah,

1868
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: isn't that about as good? You know, rappers you're gonna

1869
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: get to prepare for NFL football. I mean, that guy

1870
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: is hiccup. Yeah, he is hard to cover. You're right

1871
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: about that. He that's one of the benefits. So going

1872
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: against another opponent, I mean, he is as good as

1873
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: any half back that we're gonna face all season long,

1874
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: whether it's catching a football, running routes, or just running

1875
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: the ball. So it's a good test for our defense,

1876
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: good test for our linebackers to see how they match up,

1877
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: and hopefully it'll help us down the road. How much

1878
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: of a reality check is it? Because you know you're

1879
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms reinforcing things, but when it's actually

1880
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: when you actually got somebody that quick out there, I mean,

1881
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: that's the best reinforcement to a player that I better

1882
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: be on my technique and mind my p's and ques

1883
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna get left in the dust by somebody

1884
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: like that. Oh, no doubt about it. When you line

1885
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: up against a guy like McCaffrey who has so many

1886
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: weapons within his framework, it challenges you as a player

1887
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: and it'll make you better or to expose you. And

1888
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: so it's been good work for us. Christian McCaffrey, Leslie

1889
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: Fraser impressed by him, We were impressed by him. Right,

1890
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: they got it, and Charles Robinson said it. They have

1891
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: a very talented team. I don't know what they're gonna

1892
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: do when lost record, but they're they're talented. They got

1893
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: players on both side of the ball. I tend to think,

1894
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and there's no question everybody has reasons why they didn't

1895
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: play well one year to the next. But the fact

1896
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: that they had an MVP kind of quarterback and it's

1897
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton or paying the past MVP kind of quarterback

1898
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: who was throwing playing with one arm and the one

1899
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: army didn't have was the army had to throw with um.

1900
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: You could tell when he could not throw the football.

1901
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: Last year. They started off so fast, five and one

1902
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: or six and one, something like that. Then he got

1903
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: hurt and you know, their their season went away, and

1904
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton tried to, you know, gut it out and

1905
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: play hard and play you know, and to his credit,

1906
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: he gave it a shot, but they just couldn't. He

1907
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: just could not throw the football and it costs him

1908
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: their season a year ago. So with him back healthy,

1909
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: they they have every reason to believe they're gonna they're

1910
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: gonna continue to be competitive in the NFC's out. I

1911
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: think they're a really interesting team. But they look forward

1912
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: to seeing them to run it as well. Their first

1913
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: home preseason in tomorrow, the first getting long in the

1914
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: tooth as a tenured head coach in today's day and age,

1915
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: and people think he's under the gun, right, Yeah, we'll see.

1916
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: All right, we got a break care Andrew Cataline when

1917
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: we returned. They'll call the play by play of the

1918
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: Bills and the Panthers tomorrow night. He'll join us here

1919
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: from Charlotte. One Bill's Line presented by Collata Health and

1920
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:22,879
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radiolo Hills Radio Network Stories Update.

1921
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: The update comes from Charlotte, North Carolina. The Buffalo Bills,

1922
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 1: the players and coaches on their way here to Charlotte

1923
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: after breaking camp down there in Spartanburg, South Carolina for

1924
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: a couple of days. The Bills held a walk through

1925
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: workout in Spartanburg at Watford College this morning. Then they're

1926
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: on the buses on their way here. They get into

1927
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 1: their road game routine. Tonight they'll have meetings and get

1928
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: set for tomorrow night's game. We're just over two weeks

1929
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: away from the first and only cutdown. It is Saturday,

1930
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: August thirty. First Bills must cut their roster down to

1931
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: fifty three. It's a ninety one currently. The roster battles

1932
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 1: are going to continue on the offensive line, at tight

1933
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: end and several other places. We got the callo game

1934
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow night right here in Charlotte, the Bills and Panthers

1935
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. I'll be alongside Eric Wood Salcapacho on the

1936
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: sidelines for the broadcast here on our flagship station in Buffalo,

1937
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: WGR Sports Radio five fifty good high praise for Bill's

1938
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: second year linebacker Tremaine Edmunds from Luke Keakley yesterday as

1939
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers Bill's joint practices broke up. Keikley, talking about Edmond, said,

1940
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: he's big, he's athletic, he runs, he's long. You've got

1941
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: the perfect body time for this defense. I think he's

1942
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: gonna thrive in it. Panther's backup defensive en Brian Cox

1943
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Junior was cited for possession of marijuana and going ninety

1944
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: miles an hour in a sixty five mile an hour

1945
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: zone on his way back from Spartanburg here to Charlotte yesterday.

1946
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: It occurred on Interstate eighty five in North Carolina. Can't

1947
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: say they were aware of it, and they are in

1948
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 1: the process of gathering information. Colts coach Frank Reich says

1949
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: he hopes to have his starter in mind by the

1950
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: end of preseason game number three next week. Andrew luck

1951
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: And is injured ankle may not be available for the

1952
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: start of the regular season for the Indianapolis Colts. NBA news,

1953
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: Laker senator Marcus Cousin has suffered a serious left knee injury.

1954
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Sources say he may have a torn acl but nothing

1955
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: is expected to be known for certain for a while.

1956
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: And the Bison's inaction this afternoon. They're in Salem Field

1957
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: against Toledo. The Herd has won two in a row

1958
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: at home. Right hand there, Andrew Sopko on the mount

1959
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: for Buffalo, and man is the update from Charlotte, North Carolina.

1960
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: A great time of Steve Tasper text text down time,

1961
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: welcome back to our show. We are live at the

1962
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Weston Hotel in downtown Charlotte, North Carolina, just a block

1963
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: or two away from Bank of American Field. And that's

1964
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: good because the three of us are gonna be working

1965
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: at They came tomorrow night. John Murphy, Steve Taskersts partners

1966
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: with us again. Andrew Catalan, the play by play voice

1967
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: for Bill's preseason football from CBS Sports. Great to have

1968
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: you here and welcome to be back. Thank you great

1969
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: Damian Charlotte. How did it go last with you and

1970
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Steve are veterans and just another preseason opener for you

1971
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 1: two last week? Right, We've done this a while now,

1972
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: how many years, four or five years. We had three

1973
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: together at CBS, and this was our fifth together with

1974
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: the Bills, so it's some of those overlap. But it

1975
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: was great to be back. We hung out a bunch,

1976
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: stayed at your house. Yeah, after stays at the house

1977
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: when he comes in down and people don't know that,

1978
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: but chicken wings were on the menu. I recall he

1979
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 1: did have that went to the bill the bill. Yeah,

1980
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: Andrew should Andrew shows up like midweek for this game,

1981
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean like late in the week for this We've

1982
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: been here all week. I didn't know if you knew

1983
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: that I was aware of. That is hot yea. By

1984
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: the way, first thing you told me as how many

1985
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: showers you took each day. It's hot. Yeah, it's good

1986
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: to hear see you here though, or I have no

1987
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: problems with the flights and all head roll. Your impressions

1988
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: on the Bills performance last weekend, RW, what'd you think

1989
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: you know? I was really impressed by their defense, Murph.

1990
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Obviously Andrew Luck wasn't playing. Number of their starters were

1991
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: not out there for the Colts. But at the same time,

1992
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 1: the one thing that Sean McDermott said, a bunch throughout

1993
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: training camp was the communication has been good defensively, and

1994
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: I noticed that. I mean, they were all on the

1995
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,560
Speaker 1: same page. You didn't see a lot of mistakes. You

1996
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 1: saw a lot of nice things from between young players.

1997
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: You were talking about your poll that you have today

1998
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: about some of the late round draft picks making an impact.

1999
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Johnson played great at safety, Johnson played well at defensive end.

2000
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of different guys that

2001
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: stepped up, especially in that second half, And that's certainly

2002
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: it's what stood out to me. The offense, you know,

2003
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: didn't you know, trying to figure out the combination on

2004
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line, throwing a lot with Josh Allen the

2005
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: first couple of series, it didn't seem like they got

2006
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: in a great rhythm. But defense certainly stood out to me. Yeah,

2007
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 1: I think one of the things about it they came

2008
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,760
Speaker 1: out with obviously with a plan, and it's about Josh

2009
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Allen's development. They just wanted to see him throw the

2010
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: football against the defense, and he threw it every single down.

2011
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: You're not going to see that in the regular season,

2012
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: particularly when you've got Frank Goren, Lashaw McCoy. But I

2013
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 1: also think with this offensive line and the things they

2014
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: need to find out about it. I don't know that

2015
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: they'll do that tomorrow night, come out and throw it

2016
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: every down, but certainly you can see everything is kind

2017
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: of set aside and put the plan for developing Josh

2018
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Allen front and center and staying with it no matter

2019
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: what else they got going on. I still think that

2020
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: they have to figure out the offensive line. And Steve

2021
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: and I talked about this on the broadcast last Thursday night.

2022
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: In reference to Cody Ford, do you find the best

2023
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: five and slot him where that may be, or do

2024
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 1: you say, hey, we're gonna have this guy for the

2025
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: next ten years, Let's get him in his one spot

2026
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: where he's going to be for the next ten years.

2027
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: To me, that's a debate. To Steve on the air

2028
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: last week, he said, no debate, You play him where

2029
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: you have your best five. But I still think that's

2030
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: fascinating going into tomorrow night's game. Could be interesting. Tomorrow.

2031
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: Tye and Secki, as you know, did not practice on

2032
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 1: a full time basis yesterday. No word on any injury

2033
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: or any kind of tweak of any injury. Maybe it's

2034
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 1: just a veteran day off. We may learn more before

2035
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: kickoff tomorrow. About what's involved there, because for a while

2036
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: it was Insecki at right tackle and Cody Ford at

2037
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: right guard. Maybe they look at it differently tomorrow. If

2038
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Inseci can't go or is limited tomorrow, that's gonna be

2039
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: interesting to follow. We've we've even had some recent addition,

2040
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 1: this guy Ryan Bates, who they traded with Philadelphia for

2041
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: Eli Harold in that trade. He came over and he's

2042
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: a tackle. He's listed as a tackle, and I mean

2043
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: day one, he's on the field, he's taken snaps with

2044
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 1: the twos. Two they showed out up to see and

2045
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: so I think if they think they've got a guy

2046
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: that can play, as odd as it seems to football people,

2047
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: a center guy who can play tackle, that's a that's

2048
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: a that's a big curveball into your rotation as you're

2049
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: trying to evaluate all these guys. But Bates moving right

2050
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: in with the one with the twos in a training

2051
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: camp where they've got so many combinations going on, You're right,

2052
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we still don't know right what the real

2053
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: opinion of the coaches are about which guys should play

2054
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: where and how high on the depth chart they should fall.

2055
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: And it's tempting to say, none of our viewers or

2056
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 1: our listeners on the radio care who the offensive line is.

2057
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: But that's not the case for the Bills this year. Right,

2058
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: they do care. And I found myself you probably did too,

2059
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: You did, I saw it kind of recapping who's playing

2060
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: were in that offensive line. It's a it's a major

2061
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: well as major stories as you get in these preseason games. Right. Yeah,

2062
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: And look, it was a big problem last year. I

2063
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: think it really slowed them down and that kind of

2064
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: held them back, and that was a huge focus in

2065
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: the offseason, investing in Ford, investing certainly a lot of

2066
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: money in Mitch Moore so hopefully gets back out there soon.

2067
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: To me, and again, I have no insight or I'm

2068
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 1: not the coach. I like Ford to tackle, and then

2069
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: you have Feliciano or Long battling for right guard when

2070
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: Morse comes back. But there's so many different combinations that

2071
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: they can play that That's why I do think it's

2072
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: important to keep an eye on it in these preseason games.

2073
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: That's what they're for. Steve and I had to remind

2074
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: ourselves and actually kind of proud and along by comments

2075
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: from Brian Dabo this week about how Dabo was asked

2076
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: about don't you want to get this done, figure out

2077
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: who's playing wear and he said, there's time. There's time

2078
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: to do it. And Steve and I what was it

2079
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday? In the shows? Same We're just about

2080
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: the halfway point of preseason. We're really nice preseasons. Over

2081
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: the night after the last preseason game is played, that's

2082
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 1: it and that's when cuts come and they they gotta

2083
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: have it done. They're three weeks into preseason and three

2084
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago to the opener, so there's time to get this.

2085
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: And I think the positive is it's not like you're

2086
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: searching for guys that are going to step up. You

2087
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,440
Speaker 1: have the guys here. It's just finding out the right combination.

2088
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what's different about this search is that

2089
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna have five, I think, very solid players on

2090
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: that line. It's not like they're trying to figure out

2091
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: who's gonna start in terms of is that I have

2092
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Speaker 1: enough talent. I think the talent is there. It is

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Speaker 1: just sorting it out. Yeah, they're not trying to hide

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Speaker 1: anybody on the offensive line. And in fact, I was

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01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: just thinking about this as we're talking. You look at

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Speaker 1: that offensive line last year down inside with Dawkins at

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Speaker 1: left tackle, the centers and the guards. The thought was

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Speaker 1: they weren't strong enough and athletic enough to be good

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Speaker 1: enough as a group. Now I think they're They've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of those guys down in there. With If

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Speaker 1: you put Cody Ford down into that mix, with Feliciano,

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Speaker 1: Spencer Long, Mitch Morrise and then Quentin Spain, you got

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Speaker 1: four guys down there that can play all of those

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01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: and they're all exactly what you're looking for. Athletic, big,

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Speaker 1: strong guys. I mean they're all a couple of they're

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Speaker 1: all three twenty plus. I mean they're big dudes. So

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Speaker 1: that maybe when you think about that now the tackle

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01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: becomes the place where, Okay, you know, how are we

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Speaker 1: gonna get enough depth outside because we've got it down inside.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And then that puts Cody Ford into that mix. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's they've still got a waste to go. Yeah, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Cantonal and our guests, he'll have the call on TV

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night to play by play at the Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers will be working for Steve Tasker on that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you caught it. You were in here where Our focus

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Speaker 1: of our show today is kind of like the back

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Speaker 1: end of the Buffalo draft. Who's got a chance to

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Speaker 1: make an impact this year? What about the front end

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Speaker 1: of the Bills draft. We've talked about Cody Ford, but

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Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, Devin Singletary, those guys I think made very

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Speaker 1: positive impressions last week. No. Singletary was really impressive to me.

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Speaker 1: He stood out and you know, he had Frank Gore

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01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: after the game come out and say that of all

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Speaker 1: the rookies he's been around, no one has been more

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Speaker 1: of a natural runner than Devin Singletary. Frank Gore has

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Speaker 1: been in the league how long now? Believable that that's

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01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: unbelievable praise from from a Hall of Famer. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: we were doing the game as you were, Murph, and

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01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: you saw some of the moves he made and really

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Speaker 1: just some of the electricity he brought to the stadium.

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01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: I think I think fans were excited to see him

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Speaker 1: out on the field and make these moves. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a huge plus. You see a guy, I

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01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: do you see a guy in that size with that

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Speaker 1: speed and you'd looked at him to run outside the tackles.

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Speaker 1: I was Steve really impressed by his work between the tackles.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but when he put his foot in

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01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: the ground went up inside, he was still hard to

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Speaker 1: get a piece of. He still had the ability to

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01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: be elusive enough to dodge big hits, maybe sidestep one

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01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: arm tackle or a guy trying to get the big hit,

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Speaker 1: and then lunchford get positive yards even you know, make

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Speaker 1: a two yard game into a four yard game. I

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01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: thought there was a couple of plays where he had

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01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: to duck underwhere a guy went right over the top

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Speaker 1: of him. I don't know how he saw the guy.

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01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: And Brandon being said, the guy's got a remarkable vision,

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01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: like elite vision, which is, you know, it's high praise

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01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: for guys who evaluate players. They don't do that. But

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Speaker 1: the vision that he displayed in that moment was exactly

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01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 1: what it takes to make a really good run out

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01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: of just an ok run. And I think when it

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Speaker 1: get to that point, that's why that's what has set

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Speaker 1: that guy apart. Andrew. We have a regular Friday guest

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Speaker 1: on our show, Great Cosell from NFL Films and ESPN

2156
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup, and we had him on last Friday, the

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Speaker 1: day after the Bill's victory over the Colts. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about Ed Oliver and he said something interesting about the

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Speaker 1: matchup Oliver had against Quentin Nelson, the Pro Bowl guard

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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. He I think he said he

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Speaker 1: was kind of a draw Oliver had, Yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I did notice there were a lot and

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Speaker 1: from your broadcast it was mostly single team blocking Quentin

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Speaker 1: Nelson versus a Oliver. But I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: bad start for Oliver. The fact that Great Cosell pointed

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Speaker 1: it out and I went back, he was right. It

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Speaker 1: was a draw. Oliver didn't get loose and Quentin Nelson

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Speaker 1: had his handsful with him. Yeah. First of all, Nelson

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Speaker 1: is a beast. To go against him in your first game,

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Speaker 1: and Ed Oliver admitted after he was a little nervous,

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Speaker 1: he felt the adrenaline his first time out there. I

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01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: think that maybe that first series, even Sean McDermot commented

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01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: he was a little amped up, but then he settled in.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a great way to start your career,

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Speaker 1: to go against one of the best in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: to get a taste of it here. That's what the

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Speaker 1: preseason is for. I think it'll really help at Oliver

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Speaker 1: as we progress forward here, knowing what I know about

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Speaker 1: football players. When at Oliver's whatever happens his career from

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Speaker 1: this point on down, he'll think back to the first

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Speaker 1: time he had lined up in line up. Yeah, this guy,

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Speaker 1: I had him my first day because I think Quenton

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Speaker 1: Nels is gonna head for great. I mean, this Guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a perennial Pro Bowl and on All Pro

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Speaker 1: and he started as a rookie. So I think when

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Speaker 1: he thinks back about it, said, well, what a way

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Speaker 1: to start against that guy. I didn't know what I

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Speaker 1: was in for until that day, but that it was

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Speaker 1: a matchup. I think. I think there was a direct

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Speaker 1: effort by the Bill's defensive coaching staff to put at

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Speaker 1: Oliver over on the right side of the offense because

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Speaker 1: he's usually on the three technique on the other side.

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Speaker 1: They said, okay, plugged him in and let's see what

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Speaker 1: he can do. And I think it was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an eye opener maybe for both of those guys. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: what are your I know you'll have a meeting tonight,

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Speaker 1: you and your production team, Steve and everybody, but your perspective,

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Speaker 1: what kind of storyline g looking at for preseason game

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Speaker 1: number two here for the Bills. Yeah, I think offensive

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Speaker 1: line is still one of the top storylines I want

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Speaker 1: to see, uh, you know, the mixing and the matching

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Speaker 1: and how they attack it this week. It's certainly in

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford is the guy that I'm focusing in on

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Speaker 1: what I'm up there in the booth and looking to

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Speaker 1: see who's coming out there first. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen continuing to get timing in the comment he

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Speaker 1: made after the game was the body language of the

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. Timing is something I feel like you can

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Speaker 1: get in practice over and over again. But the body

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Speaker 1: language comment was interesting. He wants to see how they're

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Speaker 1: reacting when they get a push or or the defense

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Speaker 1: as a certain thing. So I think that's important. Again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this running back room to me

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01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: is pretty squared away. They need to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: to get Allan on the same page with these receivers

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Speaker 1: as they continue to develop continuity and chemistry. So I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. Again, there's just me saying this. If

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Speaker 1: we see a lot more passing in the first quarter

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01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen, Oake that's what. Yeah, the more reps

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Speaker 1: he gets, the better it's gonna be when it starts.

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Speaker 1: And you gotta think two offensive linemen, I mean, they've

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Speaker 1: been run blocking since they were eight years old. Although

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Speaker 1: some of these guys when even though they're big now,

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01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 1: they start out as quarterbacks, they kind of you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. But that's the easy part of it,

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Speaker 1: when you can just get a hat on somebody and

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Speaker 1: start pushing. The hard part is dropping back pass pro

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Speaker 1: and then having the card parts of the passing game

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Speaker 1: for everybody else. So, yeah, Josh Allen, the more reps

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Speaker 1: he gets, the better it's going to be on Opening

2231
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Speaker 1: Day in New York when they take on the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're trying to get a head start off,

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Speaker 1: so I would I would agree with you. I think

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen might come out and being it for eleven

2235
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Speaker 1: plays and throw the ball eleven times again. And I said,

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Speaker 1: the running back room is set. But just to further

2237
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Speaker 1: that point, I think there's a little bit of pressure

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Speaker 1: on t j Yelden here. In the next couple of

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Speaker 1: games he had that fumble did not return to the game.

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Speaker 1: Snorris Perry only had seven carries in his career, and

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Speaker 1: the Bills used him last week. I'll beat in a

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Speaker 1: preseason game down by the goal line, Sean McDermott said,

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Speaker 1: after he's impressed by his power and speed. I think

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01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: there's a little pressure on t J. Yelden to show that, hey,

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01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: we brought him in, he's gonna have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: do something here to stick around. That's my opinion again,

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01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be watching to see how Yelden performs. Yeah.

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01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 1: So Noris Perry is a special teams guy. So if

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01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 1: he can give them something added in their down and distance,

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Speaker 1: which they gave him an opportunity to do, and he did.

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Speaker 1: And he's a good specialty rights not just a guy, right,

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01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: He's an impact player on specialty. He is a guy

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01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: that if he's on the roster, he's active on game day.

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01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: He may not have a carry, ye he you know,

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Speaker 1: he may not even get in on offensive, but that

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Speaker 1: guy's on the field and he's active for game day

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Speaker 1: as a running back. Andrew Carolinas our guest. He's got

2258
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: the call of the play by play on TV tomorrow

2259
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 1: the Bills Television Network. You and I both have done

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01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: all three of us have done work looking at the

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01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. The Bills practiced with them all week. I

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01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 1: said to Steve during the course of the week down here.

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01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,679
Speaker 1: He knew how I thought. They were a perfect practice

2264
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: matchup for the Bills. Kind of similar tempo, similar approach

2265
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: to practice. And as I think about this game to run,

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01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: they're also kind of a perfect game matchup. They have

2267
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 1: a lot at stake this season. They had a seven

2268
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: wins last year, the Bills had six. They have talent Panthers.

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: They have talent both sides of the football too. Yeah,

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01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: And I love what Josh Allen said too. It's good

2271
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: to get a look at a three four defense because

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01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: that's something you'll see during the regular season. You don't

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01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: see it them practice, you know, unless they're doing something different.

2274
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: So I thought that was a huge plus. And I

2275
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: love what I'm seeing around the league now. I love

2276
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: the preseason. I love doing these games, love being here

2277
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: with the Bills and Steve and you, Murph. But but

2278
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: you are seeing these joint practices now become the norm,

2279
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: and you guys witness some firsthand, and the Patriots and

2280
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Titans are together, and just the healthy respect that the

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01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 1: teams have, you know, a lot of times. I remember

2282
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: in the past you'd have a scrimmage with a team

2283
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 1: and they'd be just a fight on every play and

2284
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: it was pointless. Now you're to the point, I think

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01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: for the most part, where these teams know you're not

2286
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: going to fight. You're putting in your work and you're

2287
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: getting a lot out of it. And you have these

2288
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: two organizations with such deep ties, and the Panthers and

2289
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: the Bills, and I think it was a great week

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: for both teams. Yeah, I think they got a lot

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01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: out of it. I've made the point that we've talked

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01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: about it a ton. These are going to become more

2293
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 1: commonplace if they can make it work, and particularly in

2294
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: place of maybe some preseason games. And I think we

2295
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: had to Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports on he says,

2296
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, you get more out of

2297
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: these couple of joint practice and you do out of

2298
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: a game because you can control it. You can put

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01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 1: them in situations you like, and you can see them

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Speaker 1: in a more individual basis for a longer extended period

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01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 1: of time. And that's I think that's value in valuable

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01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: for these coaching staffs who are trying to evaluate these

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01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: guys and You've got this game in the Bill's preseason finale,

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01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: and then you get to your your real job with

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01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 1: CBS TV and working with James Lofton. Steve tells me

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01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: you are just back from CBSS seminars right in the

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01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,600
Speaker 1: New York City. Yeah, were annual meetings, and really the

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01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: highlight of the meeting for me is that the NFL

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01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: comes in and Al Riveron, who's the senior vice president

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01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: of officiating, comes and gives a whole presentation and takes

2311
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 1: questions and there's some heated questions in that room, a

2312
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: room with Bill Cower and Boomers, Sizon and Tony Romo,

2313
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: And obviously the hot topic is past interference and it's

2314
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: not a new rule, but now, as we all know,

2315
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 1: it's reviewable this year, and we spent a lot of

2316
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,640
Speaker 1: time talking about that, and I was thinking this, and

2317
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk wrote an article about this today. But

2318
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: there's still so much uncertainty as to how this is

2319
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 1: going to be handled that if I was a head

2320
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL, if I'm Sean McDermott, I'm using

2321
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: all of my challenges on past interference in the preseason

2322
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,640
Speaker 1: because I want to figure out how this is going

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01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: to be judged. I still think there's so many variables

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01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: as to how they're gonna judge this and are they

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01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna overturn it. We saw one in the Colts game

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01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: which was deflected. It was kind of weird. It's a

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01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: weird play, but but I just still think that if

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01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: I'm a head coach, I'm using this preseason to figure

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 1: out how am I going to attack this in the

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01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: regular season, because I can tell you from our room

2331
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 1: at CBS that you know, they would show a play

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01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: and half the room would be like, oh, that's pass interference.

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 1: Half the room would not, And then now Rivon would say, well,

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01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: this is why it's not. Half the room is like,

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Do we take anything from the

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01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: And I think you have the stats right. Seventeen reviewable

2337
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: past interference calls this past weekend preseason week number one,

2338
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: only two were overturned. To me, I thought, okay, well

2339
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 1: they're not gonna use it really to change call as much.

2340
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: There's too early to make. I think it's still too early.

2341
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: That that's why I want a larger sample size. If

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01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm a head coach, I would just I would not

2343
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 1: challenge anything in the preseason other than past interference. Really,

2344
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: that's what I would do because I want to see

2345
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: as many examples as possible as to how this is

2346
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 1: going to be officiated come week one. The coach's rule.

2347
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: They put this in place, they met, they put the

2348
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: rule in place, but they don't decide if it's past interference.

2349
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,759
Speaker 1: How is al ritten. That's what they want. I'm saying,

2350
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: live with it. You guys want to this now, but

2351
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. But but if I only have these che

2352
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: certain number of challenges in a game, I want to

2353
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: know if I have a good chance of winning this

2354
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: or not. It's not it's they're so gray. Yeah, you're

2355
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: just trying to guess, in a way what Al river

2356
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: Ron is going to say. And that's why I want

2357
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: to see more examples in the preseason. The interesting thing

2358
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: about it is that there's always this thing. In the

2359
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 1: last two minutes of each half. It goes upstairs to

2360
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,759
Speaker 1: the review booth like it does normally for every challenge.

2361
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Now coaches cannot challenge anything in the last couple of

2362
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 1: minutes of each half, and there's a big They just

2363
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: decide on whether it's reviewable. They send it to New

2364
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: York right for the actual call last two minutes and

2365
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: a half. Right, the replay officials the same as always.

2366
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: It's the same as always. Also, here's the thing. So,

2367
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: for instance, you're down a couple of score or whatever,

2368
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: you have the hail mary, which is big, the big thing. Now,

2369
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: it's known that when you throw a hail mary pass,

2370
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 1: which is a long pass into the end zone and

2371
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: everybody's down there kind of waiting for this ball to

2372
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: drop and whoever can get it, tip it or whatever

2373
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: catch it wins, pass interference is almost a given, and

2374
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: in fact, the officials officiate it that way. My question

2375
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: would be, and I don't know if anybody asked this

2376
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: at the seminar, was there discussion about whether, hey, let's

2377
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:00,759
Speaker 1: start calling it what it is. If if there's interference

2378
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: down they're offensive or defensive, call it so and if

2379
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 1: on review they can do the exact same thing. Right,

2380
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,560
Speaker 1: was there a question like that? And so specific to

2381
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 1: the hail mary, we were told and then the teams

2382
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,879
Speaker 1: are told that it will be judged as per this standard.

2383
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: It would be judged on the field. So my interpretation

2384
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: of that is that you're you're not gonna if you

2385
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 1: like bump someone and people watching on TV, saw me

2386
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: bump you. Maybe that's past interference in the third quarter.

2387
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 1: It's not on a hail mary, because that wouldn't be

2388
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:36,679
Speaker 1: called in a normal situation. It has to be egregious correct.

2389
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, and here's my problem with it.

2390
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 1: If it's why don't you make the guys play it clean?

2391
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: If it's past interference call and here's the problem. Here's

2392
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: what it comes down to. If they call it, they

2393
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: got to call it on both sides, and as a result,

2394
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: the play would just they'll happen again. It'll be an

2395
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: untimed down. If it's at the end of the game,

2396
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: they'll have Now they do this this again. They would

2397
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: do it over and over and over until nobody saw

2398
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: any pass interference on either side, which puts the defense

2399
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 1: in a massive disadvantage. Yeah, I think that that would.

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01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: I like what they say about this, that you're gonna

2401
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: have to tackle. Basically my interpretation, you have to tackle

2402
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 1: someone in the end zone on a hail mary for

2403
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 1: it to be it has to be a Rams Saints

2404
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: kind of play. Yes, right, let me get you out

2405
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 1: of the hail marys for a second, and we're talking

2406
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 1: to you like this, This is your call to make it.

2407
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: It's not. But you were there with the officials out

2408
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: of a hail marriage situation offensive pass interference for years,

2409
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: for decades, Andrew, it's been oh look at him, he

2410
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: gently creating Now I'm bumping you creates separation. He's a

2411
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: master at creating separation. They don't call that. Are they

2412
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 1: ready to start calling that now? Based on a review

2413
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 1: offensive pass interference? Again, the rule has not changed rights,

2414
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 1: just that it's reviewable now, so that you know that,

2415
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: that's one thing they wanted us to remind everyone that

2416
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,600
Speaker 1: you know. There's no different rule now. So so I

2417
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: think to your question, Murph, no, if if, if it's

2418
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: not been officiated that way in the past, it's not

2419
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 1: going to change now and it's not going to be

2420
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: worthy enough to overturn it. And that's the that's the

2421
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 1: debate for the coaches because if you see that little bump,

2422
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,919
Speaker 1: are you gonna throw? Remember you don't get extra challenges

2423
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: this year, right, so you still have the same number

2424
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 1: of challenges. Are you gonna are you? Is it worth

2425
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 1: it for you on that little bump to question it

2426
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: and use one of your challenges potentially lose the time

2427
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: out or are you gonna be like, well, you know what,

2428
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't called in the past. I'm not going to

2429
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: change it now because the wording and I have the

2430
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: rule here and my other over the effigantly hinder Yeah,

2431
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: and for offense, you know, push off is significantly hindering.

2432
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: Never not been called a lot, but some guys are

2433
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 1: masters at getting that push up. I'm talking about offensive players.

2434
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: Why not adhere to the what it says on paper?

2435
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Well they can now because they can review it and say, listen,

2436
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: that was offensive past interference, and they've got to call

2437
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: it the way it would have been called. And if

2438
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: they won't, well then you got to live with it.

2439
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. That's the whole thing, the

2440
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: way that if you know that going in, you're gonna

2441
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 1: know not to challenge that kind of thing. Plus you're

2442
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna coach your guys to take advantage of it. Well,

2443
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 1: go ahead here, but this is my point, getting back

2444
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 1: to the preseason. It's not like you challenge a play

2445
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: was the runner in bounds are out of bounds? There

2446
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 1: is a fine gray area here that that we need

2447
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: more examples so that come week one we're not having

2448
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 1: these hypotheticals. We have some type of bases from the preseason.

2449
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: You expect that to happen. I would I do. You've

2450
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 1: got to make the gray area go from being as

2451
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: broad as it is to a narrow band that everybody

2452
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 1: can live with. And that's you know, I don't know

2453
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: that we'll get there very fast, but sooner or later

2454
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 1: they will. I'm with murfh though this one year finger

2455
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: quotes experiment. It's not going away. I mean they're gonna

2456
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: they'll probably try it, and they'll they'll hone it in

2457
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: and it'll probably go. It'll probably take them as long

2458
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: as it did to get the catch rule right, and

2459
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: they were gonna have to live with it for the

2460
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 1: interim because of the NFC Championship game, and they basically

2461
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: admitted as much that. Certainly there was some discussion about

2462
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,919
Speaker 1: this in the past. Should should things like this be reviewable?

2463
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 1: But that was the one that catapulted into our lives

2464
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: slippery slow something else. It is coming my kid playing

2465
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: in the CFL. Everything's reviewable up there on every play,

2466
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: and it it is a weapon for a coach who

2467
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 1: just gave up a big play and can say no, no,

2468
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: this guy held on the other side away from the play,

2469
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 1: they can challenge it and that big play will come back.

2470
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: That's gonna be one way or the other. Thing can

2471
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: sooner or later. If the yard play and the coach

2472
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: can throw a flag and say, on the other side

2473
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: of the field, this guy get held. They have to

2474
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 1: be specific. It was on this guy against this defender,

2475
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. And if it's true, the play

2476
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: comes back, and that's gonna be a big change. And

2477
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you can say goodbye to a

2478
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: three hour football game. Yeah, huh. Andrew Cantelina is with us.

2479
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: He's got the call on TV tomorrow. Anything else from

2480
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: the CBS meetings with the officiating group that stood out.

2481
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: Everything else is pretty much say yeah, kickoff rules now

2482
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 1: or full time effect, you know all that, And and

2483
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: the other thing that you have to be careful about

2484
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: is you know, you can't some of these massive celebrations

2485
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: that we've seen now. You have to be one of

2486
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: the active players in uniform to be able to run

2487
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: on the field. So if you're inactive or you're injured,

2488
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: you they're gonna look and if you run on the field,

2489
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: you can get in trouble. So how about the Bills

2490
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: last Wade, that probably would have been a penalty. I

2491
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: think that would have been a penalty in the regular

2492
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 1: staff was out there. Yeah, that was exactly I told

2493
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 1: Steve on Friday that. And you've been around a long

2494
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: time too, and do that to me is one of

2495
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: the great preseason moments because of the celebration and the

2496
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: play that I can recall. It really was amazing, a

2497
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: great story. It's a great culmination to it. Remember's point

2498
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott told us the day before in our production meeting,

2499
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I really hope that we get a chance to get

2500
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: him in. Be so neat to see him play man

2501
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: got him in it worth at one play. Yeah, Andrew,

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01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: thanks for this, have a great broadcast, God seeing as

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01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: owas the good to see you all right and your Caroline.

2504
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: You'll see him on TV tomorrow in the Rochester and

2505
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo and all Throad Upst. New York, The Bills and

2506
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panther. Steve and I coming back with more

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from Charlotte, North Carolina. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Ready, welcome back to Charlotte, North Carolina. One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy's tea tasker, and again our thanks to Andrew

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Speaker 1: Catalan for joining us a good discussion about replay. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: here's here's my position. I will state it and restate it.

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Speaker 1: We don't need more replay. We need less replay. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we need no replay. I know that's you laugh at

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Speaker 1: me when I first said that, but I think you're

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Speaker 1: coming around me. Yes, we don't need replay. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: to live with human errors. That was a horrible mistake

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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. Nkel Robie calling himself, will

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Speaker 1: tell you that he interfered with the guy and they

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Speaker 1: didn't call it. There was a bad mistake. So what

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Speaker 1: they're bad mistakes made all over the field. I am.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say this. I am shocked that the league

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Speaker 1: changed the rule this drastically because of that plays as

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Speaker 1: egregious as it was, because you can go back through

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Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League and go a

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Speaker 1: game after game after game, scenario after scenario after scenario

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Speaker 1: where the officials officials botched a call and there was

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Speaker 1: no rule change made. Now, certainly the technology wasn't there

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Speaker 1: where it was it is at this point, but you

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Speaker 1: go back to the Houston Oilers in Pittsburgh against the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steel Curtain wouldn't have gone to four

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls had they not been given or had a

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Speaker 1: tech touchdown by the orders taken away from the Oilers

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Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone. There's been other

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Speaker 1: times when when teams have had penalties not called or

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Speaker 1: called that meant the difference in those games. It's happened

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Speaker 1: since the first year of the league, and now we're

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Speaker 1: in the hundredth year and it still happens. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know why this one play, given that it was

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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game. I don't know why this

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Speaker 1: play carries more weight than the hundreds of others that

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Speaker 1: have happened over the course. So Sean Payton made a deal.

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Speaker 1: He made he made a big deal out of it

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Speaker 1: at the owners meetings, right the competition community didn't look

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Speaker 1: rules change has usually come from the competition community. This

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Speaker 1: one was a result of the thirty two NFL coaches

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Speaker 1: getting together themselves, summoning to each other together at the

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Speaker 1: owner's meetings. Where were they, Phoenix, I don't even know,

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Speaker 1: and saying we got to change this rule. Led by

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. I got screwed. I should have been in

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Agreed, But you don't necessarily need to change

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Speaker 1: the rules. But he got it done. The coaching, the

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Speaker 1: coaches got this rule change done. I think it's a joke.

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Speaker 1: We don't need expansion of replay. We need less replay

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Speaker 1: doesn't solve anything, doesn't fix me. You feel better getting

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Speaker 1: that out, well, I mean I've been saying it for years. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't like to repeat myself every three I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it, and there's nothing There was nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that getting to that point. Think about it. We're

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Speaker 1: in a hundredth tier of the NFL, and for decades

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Speaker 1: this game grew leaps and bounds, and it certainly hasn't

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Speaker 1: last twenty five thirty years with whatever they with all

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Speaker 1: kinds of human errors that are involved in game. It's

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Speaker 1: it's the eight hundred pound gorilla for a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: The mistakes are part of it. Certainly the lee desire

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Speaker 1: to fix the mistakes. Yeah, that's a that's a good

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Speaker 1: thing for the fans. They like it when that happens.

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Speaker 1: The simple fact of the matter is this game has

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Speaker 1: changed so much and continues to change. Here's here's my point,

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Speaker 1: that is addressing your point and say we don't need more,

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Speaker 1: we need less. I don't remember. I remember maybe once

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Speaker 1: or twice where the league stepped away and they changed.

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Speaker 1: They kept evolving, and they kept evolving. They evolved to

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Speaker 1: a place where they said to stop right there, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go back. Remember when they took rise a replay

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Speaker 1: out of the game completely because the technology wasn't good

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Speaker 1: enough for what the demands of the game called for.

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Speaker 1: Now they put it back in when they've got the

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Speaker 1: guy going over. Now they got one voice. It's it's

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Speaker 1: out now, it's Al Riveron in New York. He calls

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Speaker 1: every game. So you have one voice, the same set

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Speaker 1: of eyes, the same judgment, the same voice on every

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Speaker 1: call and every challenge. That was probably that was a plus.

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Speaker 1: But now they've evolved a little further towards no. But

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Speaker 1: he calls anything, and now you want to you want

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Speaker 1: a penalty call, you want to. Yeah, this is an

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Speaker 1: evolution further as well. And I think at some point,

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Speaker 1: once again, the legal evolve into a place where they'll

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Speaker 1: have to say, wait a minute, wait a minute, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna step back. Now, that's that's not a good evolution.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whether this is the time to do that,

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Speaker 1: or this is the rule that's going to force them

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Speaker 1: to do that, but certainly we've seen it at other

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Speaker 1: times in the history of the game. And if this

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Speaker 1: doesn't work, I hope they have a good sense to

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Speaker 1: throw it back on the tren sheet. I hope. So

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Speaker 1: maybe it will be maybe it will work. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but man oh man, maybe just one year. Hey, our

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Speaker 1: twitter Poulter, we got a few minutes left to discuss this,

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Speaker 1: and you are welcome to join us. Which late round

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Speaker 1: Bill's draft pick could have the biggest impact in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen got eight hundred votes in right now. Thirty nine

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Speaker 1: percent of you say seventh rounder Daryl Johnson has a

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Speaker 1: chance they have the biggest impact. Thirty seven percent say

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Speaker 1: tight end Tommy Sweeney, eighteen percent say Vashon Joseph, six

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Speaker 1: percent say Jaquan Johnson. Which late round draft pick has

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Speaker 1: a chance to make an impact this year? The tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet is buy Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Doug or I'm sorry, James tweets in

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Speaker 1: I have to go with Darryl Johnson. We need a

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Speaker 1: force coming off the edge. If he keeps showing out,

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Speaker 1: I believe he could make a huge leap from being

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick to an actual rotation on the defense.

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Speaker 1: If he cracks the lineup, the Bills getting an eight

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Speaker 1: plus in the draft might go down as one of

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Speaker 1: the better drafts. Good points I found myself. I'm not

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Speaker 1: there yet, James as far as evaluating the whole twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen draft. But when I left the game last Thursday

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Speaker 1: night and thought about the game Friday and throughout the weekend,

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Speaker 1: I thought this could be a really good draft, you know,

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Speaker 1: top to bottom. When you saw that these guys were

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Speaker 1: got on our poll today, when you saw the contributions

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Speaker 1: they made and how comfortable they looked out there, the

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Speaker 1: thought occurred to me, this could be a really good

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Speaker 1: draft for the Bills. But we'll see. I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: wait a little. It could be in and it'll have

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Speaker 1: to if it is going to be considered like that not.

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Speaker 1: You got Oliver at the top, You've got Cody Cody

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Speaker 1: four at the time. You've got Devin Singletary at the top.

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Speaker 1: Those are three guys that Singletary's probably not a starter

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Speaker 1: right away, but he could be that kind of quality,

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Speaker 1: and you go back down if you can find any

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Speaker 1: one or two guys that end up being a starter

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Speaker 1: out of a draft. You get four starters out of

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Speaker 1: a draft, it sounds it's not easy to do. You

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Speaker 1: look around the league. Not every not anybody can do that.

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Speaker 1: You don't get four guys who start. In fact, you

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Speaker 1: look back at the Seattle Seahawks when they had their

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Speaker 1: great run where they went to two Super Bowls in

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Speaker 1: a row and crushed the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They got four starters out of two consecutive drafts, and

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Speaker 1: it was just two years before they went to and

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. One of the starters, of course,

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Speaker 1: was Russell Wilson as a third rounder. But they got

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Speaker 1: four starters out of one number of more defensive players.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking at that kind of infusion of really

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Speaker 1: quality players into your organization from a draft like the

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Speaker 1: Bills just had. That's when you start to take off,

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Speaker 1: and you know it remains to be seen whether that

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Speaker 1: can happen again here in Buffalo. Let's talk about this

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Speaker 1: the addition to the roster in twenty nineteen, and we

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Speaker 1: mentioned Touchdown a briefly earlier. The undrafted rookie free agents.

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Speaker 1: What do we have eight on the roster right now?

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Speaker 1: Any of them gonna make the roster? Let me just

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Speaker 1: read the names. Can I go through this real quick?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead? Tight End Nate Becker, undrafted rookie free agent,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Nick Easily from Iowa. These are all undrafted

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Speaker 1: rookie free agents. Quarterback Tyree Jackson from you B, cornerback

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Speaker 1: Cam Lewis from ub offensive linemen from East Carolina, Garrett McGinn,

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Speaker 1: kicker Chase mcloughton of Illinois, and wide receiver David Sills

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Speaker 1: of West Virginia. I don't think I missed anybody those

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Speaker 1: eight the undrafted rookie free agents for the Bills. Any

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Speaker 1: of them gonna make the roster. It's an uphill battle

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Speaker 1: for all of them. It's an uphill battle, very uphill.

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Speaker 1: And it'll be unusual because last year, for instance, leave

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Speaker 1: I Wallace, Robert Foster, undrafted rookie free agents not just

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Speaker 1: made the roster but became essentially starters as the season

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Speaker 1: moved along. What does that say says? This roster is better,

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Speaker 1: much better? You know, it's tough, and it should be

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Speaker 1: tough for an undrafted rookie to make your roster. But

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be, Steve said, an uphill battle, maybe even

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Speaker 1: more than that, for any one of those eight to

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Speaker 1: make their mark here and and their mark maybe this

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Speaker 1: year on the practice squad. Yeah, I mean that's I

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Speaker 1: mean stills easily. Those are practice Those are guys have

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Speaker 1: got it written all over them. Um. Even think at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the training camp you thought maybe Tommy

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Speaker 1: Sweeney was gonna end up on the practice squad. Now

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Speaker 1: it's like, wow, how do you keep him off the field? Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping. I mean, well, I'm thinking I'm hoping some

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Speaker 1: of the other you know, Dawson knocks to getting healthy.

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Speaker 1: I hope we see Jason Croom before too much longer.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep him off the field. If he's the

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Speaker 1: last guy standing at the position. I'm hoping he won't

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Speaker 1: be right. Yeah, I mean, none of us do, but

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Speaker 1: that the reality of it is, he may be by

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Speaker 1: default the best, the most, the biggest contributor of that group.

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Speaker 1: So um it all, there's so much, so many questions

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Speaker 1: that have to be answered. We're gonna get a chance

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Speaker 1: to start looking at the at the evidence of those

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Speaker 1: answers tomorrow and I once again in Caroline and I

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Speaker 1: and it's a game I really can't wait for because

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Speaker 1: this is a team here in Carolina that is talented,

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Speaker 1: it's established, they've got an head coach, a veteran, established staff,

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Speaker 1: a program they've been on, a program that has been

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, and you get to measure yourself

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Speaker 1: against him. Three weeks ago, before camp began, of that

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Speaker 1: group of eight undrafted rookies, I would have given David

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Speaker 1: Sills West Virginia wide receiver the best chance of yes,

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Speaker 1: jumping up and taking a roster spot. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: it was a lock anything, it was a sure thing,

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Speaker 1: but I would have thought that guy has a chance.

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Speaker 1: But now, look, once we were three days into camp

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Speaker 1: and it became pretty apparent Steve, that they knew what

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Speaker 1: the top of their depth chart was going to look

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Speaker 1: like at wide receiver, they're filling out the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the depth chart. And look, it's a stretch to say

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Speaker 1: that David Sills will be at the bottom of that

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Speaker 1: depth chart of the fifty three man right right right,

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Speaker 1: And this last week Nick easily the other wide receiver

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Speaker 1: another and we'll even drafted. They got another guy on

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Speaker 1: the roster this week Roderick Young, who falls into the's

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Speaker 1: also an undrafted rookie free agent, Rodrick Young who wasn't

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Speaker 1: on the roster just a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: he's back in there at a defensive tackle spot. So

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Speaker 1: so actually there's nine guys with and also with the

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Speaker 1: Chase McLoughlin, the kicker, who you know, you don't carry

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Speaker 1: two kickers. He could stick around on the practice squad

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Speaker 1: if he performs well. But yeah, these guys are you

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Speaker 1: think about it. When I was talking to Jay Harris

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Speaker 1: between the thing, there was a stretch of time here

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Speaker 1: during you know, during the early two thousands where there

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Speaker 1: was like six or eight years where there was always

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Speaker 1: at least one rookie undrafted rookie free agent on the squad,

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Speaker 1: the fifty three and you go back. Eddie Yarborough was

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. So you know, over the last

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Speaker 1: three years, not so much these guys like Robert Foster

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Speaker 1: and these guys had to like it took him half

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Speaker 1: a year to actually get on the roster because they

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02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 1: had so much to learn. It was a more difficult time,

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Speaker 1: but certainly offensively it was easier last year. That's going

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02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 1: to be this year. Some of the stuff to watch.

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Speaker 1: When the Bills line up and played Carolina tomorrow, Steve

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02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 1: and I both will be calling that game. Steve on

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Speaker 1: the TV side on the Bill's television network. I got

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02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 1: the radio call with Eric Wood and Salcpacco seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: kick off tomorrow. We'll be here tomorrow two, same spot

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02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 1: to do our show and talk more about that game.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. We're gonna take a break. We're coming back.

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Speaker 1: It is one Bills Live from Charlotte, North Carolina. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, so what have we learned

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02:09:33,320 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: from today's show from Charlotte. We had Charles Robinson on

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02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 1: from Yahoo sports dot com, longtime NFL reporter there. He

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02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: watched the Bills and practice Tuesday down in Spartanburg, South Carolina,

2744
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:45,880
Speaker 1: and he talked about the impact that wide receiver Cole

2745
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Beasley might have on Josh Allen. Here's what he said

2746
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 1: when I watched him. You know, there was a hit,

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02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 1: a couple of deep balls that were pretty nice. You know,

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02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 1: one that was you know, about a good five yards

2749
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: ahead of his target. You I think part of it

2750
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 1: still dialing in that chemistry, particularly deep, but I also

2751
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 1: think that part of what's really going to help him

2752
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: this season is maybe having some more reliable short option

2753
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 1: in the game. You know, look Cole Beasley. I was

2754
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 1: in Dallas probably you know, a half dozen times last season,

2755
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 1: and I can tell you there are people in their

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02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: pro personnel department that are really disappointed to lose Cole

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02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 1: Beasley because they know, particularly when he's healthy, what an

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02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 1: effective piece he can be. Charles Robinson had a lot

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02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 1: of good comments about the Bills. Also moments ago, Andrew

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02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 1: Catalan from CBS Sports to a call to play by

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02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:41,080
Speaker 1: play the Bills and the Panthers tomorrow night. He did

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02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 1: last week's game the Bills and the coltson he talked

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02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: about and Oliver's first preseason game and how he matched

2764
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 1: up against Colts guard Quentin Nelson. Here's what he said.

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02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 1: First of all, Nelson is a beast. To go against

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02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 1: him in your first game, and Ed Oliver admitted after

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02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: he was a little nervous, he felt the adrenaline his

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02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 1: first time out there. I think that maybe that series.

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Speaker 1: Even Sean McDermott commented, he was a little amped up,

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Speaker 1: but then he settled in and I think that's a

2771
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 1: great way to start your career, to go against one

2772
02:11:07,760 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 1: of the best in the NFL, to get a taste

2773
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 1: of it here. That's what the preseason is for. I

2774
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,480
Speaker 1: think it'll really help at Oliver as we progress forward here.

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Speaker 1: And thanks Andrew Catalan for joining us. Um, there's a

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02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: good show today's Steve. You know what the best thing

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Speaker 1: about today's show was compared to yesterday. Yeah, it's about

2778
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 1: twenty five degrees cold, cooler here air conditioning. Man, it

2779
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,120
Speaker 1: was so nice, so not such a nice change. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great. Tomorrow show should be good. Eric Wood's

2781
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 1: going to join us, color analyst on the Bills Radio

2782
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 1: Network will be here with us. And Oh, mcmixon, My man, mcmixon.

2783
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 1: I just like saying his name. He used the play

2784
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 1: by play voice of the Carolina Panthers. You met him,

2785
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 1: A good guy. Great, he was our ticking into a

2786
02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: closer view of practice yesterday. We all go along with

2787
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: the guys, a voice of the Panthers. Nobody can throw

2788
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 1: him out. Yeah, tomorrow be game day. Even here on

2789
02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:56,040
Speaker 1: the road, I think we'll we'll feel that a little bit,

2790
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 1: don't you The fact that it's absolutely we'll have to

2791
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:01,080
Speaker 1: have to skidaddle right out here to go, get over

2792
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 1: to the stadium seven o'clock kickoff. I'll be there at

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Speaker 1: six forty five. I know that about you, all right? Thanks,

2794
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for tuning in today. We want to thank

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Speaker 1: our production assistance George Black Am. I no, I'm good

2796
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Speaker 1: here time wise? Oh, I got a minute left? I am?

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Speaker 1: What do you got? You got a minute for me? Yeah? Tomorrow?

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02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:21,800
Speaker 1: First thing? What do you get? Its? First topic on

2799
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Speaker 1: the show pregame tomorrow night. What's it gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the radio pregame? Yeah? Um, what do they get out

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Speaker 1: of a week with practice with Carolina? What about you?

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02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:32,320
Speaker 1: I think for us it'll probably be all about what

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02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,600
Speaker 1: happened last week and how it's gonna have effect this week.

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02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 1: That's my second topic. The offensive line, Josh, the whole

2805
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: line yards start with a big picture. Who builds on

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Speaker 1: what they did last week into this game? And the

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Speaker 1: guys you know, we've talked about them today, those back

2808
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 1: end of the draft class guys. I want to see

2809
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 1: John's I got to see them follow it up. I

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Speaker 1: want to get It's almost the point where I say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to see Josh Okay get off the field. Job.

2812
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 1: I want to see the other guys now, you know. Yeah,

2813
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,240
Speaker 1: different story in preseason game number three, but tomorrow that's

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02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 1: really true. Yeah, all right, now we're gonna be late.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. We'll see tomorrow noon. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right here in Charlotte, North Carolina. Thanks for our production assistants,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Honolder, Kelly Rude, j j Teredo,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Carteri Steams, robel Our producer Jay Harris. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Jeff Matthews for moral support today here in Charlotte. Jeff

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02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 1: finally went back to work. We'll see tomorrow at noon

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