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Speaker 1: Hey, Guy's friends, Normany's countrymen. We are back on Normally,

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Speaker 1: the show What Normal It Takes for when the news

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Speaker 1: gets weird. I am Mary Cavinham.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Carol Markowitz. Hi, Mary Catherine. We are recording

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Speaker 2: this the day after Trump's addressed to Congress, and I

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Speaker 2: have to say, the news got weird.

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Speaker 1: I mean we all expected entertaining, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, the speech I thought was fantastic. I just

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Speaker 2: thought the reaction and the response around it was beyond

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Speaker 2: I really did think it was a new level of insanity.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I am going to sound like a

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Speaker 1: concern troll, like I'm telling the left what to do,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I'm trapping them, But I truly think the

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Speaker 1: best thing to do would just be to sit very normally,

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Speaker 1: clap when you like something, ignore it when you don't,

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Speaker 1: and then leave the chambers. You give him so much

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Speaker 1: less to work with when you do that. I think

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Speaker 1: the paddles are so weird that the Democrats have decided

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Speaker 1: to use and hold up when they're upset, because it's

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Speaker 1: so mimable. You just erase what's written on them and

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Speaker 1: you write new things on them. That's right, why why

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Speaker 1: would you do that?

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Speaker 2: It made no sense. You know, I get the concern

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Speaker 2: troll thing, but I have to tell you that alone

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Speaker 2: in my bedroom with no one around, I am screaming

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Speaker 2: at the screen. Just be normal, like it's not you know.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to trick them into anything. You're just like,

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Speaker 2: can you just be quiet? Can you not shake a

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Speaker 2: cane at the president? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's mildly concerned. At the beginning, they weren't going to

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Speaker 1: let him speak at all like that, there was going

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Speaker 1: to need to be a mass escorting out of much

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Speaker 1: of the Democratic caucus, which would have been bad. So

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Speaker 1: they chilled out after al Green, who was the cane shaker,

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Speaker 1: was escorted out of the room. But I think they're

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Speaker 1: in a true position because they do need to be

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Speaker 1: more normal. And one of the things I tell our

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Speaker 1: friends on the left is, you're so weird that people

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Speaker 1: turned to Donald Trump as the more normal option. Now,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is many things, many good things, many bad things,

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Speaker 1: entertaining all these not normal, right, He's like, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: an oddball, but he's normaler than y'all.

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Speaker 2: Way more way more normal.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think it was effective, but their

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Speaker 1: base requires that they do things that are theatric and

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Speaker 1: big to stop this allegedly not normal duly elected president.

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Speaker 2: But I have to imagine that their base can't possibly

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Speaker 2: like them not applauding a thirteen year old cancer survivor.

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Speaker 2: I just again, I look at it from the right.

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Speaker 2: If it was Republicans not applauding a thirteen year old

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Speaker 2: cancer I would not like that and so and while

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Speaker 2: I would want the Republicans to stand up to say

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden or whoever the president is, I still would

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Speaker 2: not appreciate that kind of behavior. And I think it

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Speaker 2: would have been better if they hadn't shown up, and

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Speaker 2: that would have been more understandable to me than what

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Speaker 2: they ended up doing. And of course some of them

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Speaker 2: did walk out. I know that Congressman Frost from Florida,

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Speaker 2: one of the very very few Democrats we have here,

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Speaker 2: walked out and then took a selfie with a bunch

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Speaker 2: of other congress people that walked out, and his shirt

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Speaker 2: showed Trump an important message, no kings live here.

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Speaker 1: He said, what what well? And when your behavior is

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Speaker 1: that it gives him an opposition that is once again

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Speaker 1: dumber than any thing he could have ever hoped for

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Speaker 1: and unpopular. Right when you sit in that chamber, Look,

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Speaker 1: I think we have passed the point of sort of

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Speaker 1: like pure motives, and things have gotten more circusy over

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Speaker 1: the years for these states of the Unions. However, when

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Speaker 1: people bring guests, the guests are real Americans who are

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Speaker 1: getting a chance to be in that chamber to do

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Speaker 1: something big. They're being honored for something real. There's a

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Speaker 1: veteran steel worker who has fostered forty children, I mean,

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Speaker 1: a saint walking the earth. And look when I was

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Speaker 1: watching Obama's and when Republicans were there for Obama's speeches. Yes,

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Speaker 1: sometimes these people are used to push certain policies that

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Speaker 1: you may not agree with.

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Speaker 3: Course, Yeah, but the person themselves, in their personal story,

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Speaker 3: you just got to suck it up and be like, yes,

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Speaker 3: because I'm there for that part, right, and we'll disagree

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Speaker 3: about the Medicaid whatever later, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be our moment of unity, and it's

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Speaker 2: just such an easy one for them to accomplish, and

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Speaker 2: yet they still can't. Mike Solana on X tweeted in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, Joe Wilson shouted you lie in

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Speaker 2: the middle of Obama's speech, and it was a major

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Speaker 2: national scandal. Both parties condemned the outburst, and Wilson formally

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Speaker 2: publicly apologized very different times. Now none of these regular apologizing.

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Speaker 2: And of course their argument is, well, look at Trump,

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Speaker 2: look at what Trump does. And again, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Trump comes off far more normal than they do. I think,

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Speaker 2: like the most abnormal part about Trump last night was

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Speaker 2: him referring to Pocahontas Elizabeth Warren from the stage, a

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Speaker 2: living that clearly I don't know compared to their behavior,

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Speaker 2: it sort of seems small potatoes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to illustrate how little they're able to embrace

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Speaker 1: a thirteen year old kid who's struggling with brain cancer

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Speaker 1: who wants to be a police officer when he grows up,

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Speaker 1: and then his deputye by the head of the United

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Speaker 1: States Secret Service as a Secret Service agent. It was

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful moment. Just it was the first one

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Speaker 1: that Chad that made me cry a little bit when

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Speaker 1: his face lit up because he clearly was surprised by this.

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Speaker 1: This is how we'll do two of them. This is

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Speaker 1: how Nicole Wallace responded to this.

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Speaker 4: Moment, and I think this was a lesson in finding

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Speaker 4: one thing that you let yourself feel, and I let

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Speaker 4: myself feel joy about DJ And I hope he's alive

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Speaker 4: for another you know, ninety five years, right, And I

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Speaker 4: hope he lives and the life he wants to live.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be a cop. He knows what he

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Speaker 4: wants to do, and maybe when you have childhood cancer

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Speaker 4: that crystallizes for you. And I hope he has a

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Speaker 4: long life as a law enforcement officer. But I hope

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Speaker 4: he never has to defend the United States capital against

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump supporters. And if he does, I hope he

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Speaker 4: isn't one of the six who loses his life to suicide.

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Speaker 4: And I hope he isn't one who has to testify

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Speaker 4: against the people who carried out acts of seditious conspiracy

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Speaker 4: and then lived to see Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Pardon those people. Girl, am woman, get it together.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing, lady?

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Speaker 1: What was There's got to be a break in your

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Speaker 1: brain that says, Okay, look, I know I'm still I'm

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Speaker 1: mad about January sixth, Yeah, but it should not be

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Speaker 1: applied to the story of the thirteen year old cancer

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Speaker 2: Just who's getting like a secret service appointment.

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Speaker 1: He gives the service director a hug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these are just it's beyond And again, I think

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Speaker 1: It, right, I would want you to just do the thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like clap for the kid. I saw a funny Twitter

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Speaker 1: back and forth between Tom Nichols of the Atlantic and

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Speaker 1: Kathy Young. I believe, oh my god, I'm discussing what

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Speaker 1: was the proper way to do that, and Kathy was arguing, like,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you could clap for him, and He's like, no, not,

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Speaker 1: you can't clap because you're just giving into the manipulation.

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Speaker 2: I hope those two get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: You've lost the plot, my friends, you really have. I

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Speaker 1: believe you have another clip of.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one more clip, let's do.

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Speaker 1: It for the record. And this is disgusting.

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Speaker 5: The President made a spectacle out of praising a young

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Speaker 5: man who serves thus much survived pediatric cancer, as if

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Speaker 5: the President had.

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Speaker 1: Something to do with that. This was in the.

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Speaker 5: Midst of him praising dog Doge. Cuts, among other things,

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Speaker 5: have cut off funding for ongoing research into pediatrics it's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: That was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like he claimed any credits any you know,

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Speaker 2: by this kid with cancer. I think that kid is

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Speaker 2: doing the surviving all on his own, with the help

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Speaker 2: of his family and his doctors. I do not believe

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump said that he was responsible for the life

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Speaker 2: this kid living.

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Speaker 1: He didn't just didn't really, He didn't even really do policy.

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Speaker 1: He segued slightly into sort of health policy and HHS,

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Speaker 1: but like not enough that it should keep you from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a step too far.

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Speaker 1: Now. A lot of the guests were so lovely last night.

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Speaker 1: The widow of a slain officer, Stephanie Diller, was there.

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Speaker 1: She has one one child, one young child who she's

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Speaker 1: raising on her own. Now. Uh, there was Corey Confortoire's

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Speaker 1: family was there, A kid whose dream was to get

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Speaker 1: the spot by the President of the United States, which

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Speaker 1: DJ was so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of really good moments. I want to

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Speaker 1: draw attention to one policy moment that I think should

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Speaker 1: be a bigger deal than it is. This is Trump

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Speaker 1: announcing something we did not know before the State of

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Speaker 6: Here's ago ISIS terrorists killed thirteen American service members and

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Speaker 6: countless others in the Abbygate bombing during the disastrous and

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Speaker 6: incompetent withdrawal from Afghanistan. Not that they were withdrawing, it

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Speaker 6: was the way they withdrew perhaps the most embarrassing moment

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Speaker 6: in the history of our country. Tonight, please to announce

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Speaker 6: that we have just apprehended the top terrorists responsible for

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Speaker 6: that atrocity, and he is right now on his way

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Speaker 1: I wanted to let the applause go on for a

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Speaker 1: bit because you'll see that even for catching a terrorist

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Speaker 1: of isis K who killed thirteen Americans and one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy Afghanistan citizens, the Democrats are in their seats.

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Speaker 1: And there was a close up shot too of several

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Speaker 1: In classic Donald Trump's style, ash Pttel was out at Dulles.

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Speaker 1: I think as the speech was happening, receiving this transfer

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Speaker 1: of custody of this ISIS kid terrorist. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to note for everyone, because you might not know,

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Speaker 1: that is the first time that the Abbygate thirteen service

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Speaker 2: That is so wild to me.

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Speaker 1: How is that possible? Biden had three State of the

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Speaker 1: Union addresses after their deaths to mention them. He never did.

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Speaker 1: Their families were not invited as guests to recognize them.

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Speaker 1: They famously behind the scenes tried to get phone calls

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Speaker 1: with him, tried to get face to face face meetings

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Speaker 1: with him. You'll remember when he did the dignified transfer

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Speaker 1: it dover that he was accused of catching his watch,

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Speaker 1: checking his watch, and was indeed caught on camera doing that.

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Speaker 1: There have been all sorts of issues with that administration

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Speaker 1: wanting to forget that this happened. And many presidents have

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Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that calls they make end

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Speaker 1: American service members. And you know what you do, You

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Speaker 1: do the hard thing, and you give those families recognition,

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Speaker 1: and you make sure you put them in the speech.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, his last chance to mention them,

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Speaker 1: he did not, although he mentioned Afghanistan in general, at

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Speaker 1: least once touting something else he was doing. There were

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Speaker 2: a mother and not an inseminated person.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and one last point on this, which is

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Speaker 1: they call it, the rebuttal to this speech. It's a

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Speaker 1: very unenviable position. You have to give a speech to

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Speaker 1: a dark closet with no one after the president has

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Speaker 1: spoken to a joint session. So even if it's Biden,

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Speaker 1: you're having a tough time following. She did a good

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Speaker 1: job of seeming medium normally. Yeah, but this is the problem.

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Speaker 1: Look at the voting record from just this week, and

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Speaker 1: it turns out she's not in line with seventy nine

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Speaker 1: percent of Americans who believe this thing.

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Speaker 2: That's right, This very sane, normal, obvious thing that Democrats

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Speaker 2: have decided to fight to the death, and so okay,

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Speaker 2: let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's fight to the dos.

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