WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 122521 What is a Culture Vulture (Part B)

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<v Speaker 1>And now go my mic back like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Time just strikes from head borders behind him and the

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<v Speaker 2>line side.

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<v Speaker 1>In the border. If you just tune in Minnesofic Sacer,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean host Ramdas's jock.

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<v Speaker 3>I am your host. Also Rams called me a Q

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I'm gonna go with because I really

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<v Speaker 3>really appreciates this.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, and a lot more to stick around, so be

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<v Speaker 1>sure to do just that. We're going to be discussing

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<v Speaker 1>on what a culture vulture is as well as Santa

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<v Speaker 1>Claus for our way Black History fact. But first we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to discuss how to become a better ally.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you haven't heard the name Ro Roguel, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that's how I pronounce it Aguilera Mideros. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the truck driver who was sentenced to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ten year present term because his breaks failed. He ended

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<v Speaker 1>up creating an accident that killed I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>for people. I'll just read this. I got this from

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<v Speaker 1>beet dot com. Again. This is a Cuban truck driver.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're standing in solidarity here and give you some

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<v Speaker 1>ways to support him. This twenty six year old truck

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<v Speaker 1>driver was found guilty on December sixteenth, of twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>counts of vehicular manslaughter after the breaks that this truck

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<v Speaker 1>failed killed four people in Denver and twenty nineteen. The

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<v Speaker 1>sentence has been met with overwhelming disagreement from all sides,

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<v Speaker 1>including the victims' families, mostly because it was an accident,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it was the maximum penalty he could have received.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of folks pointing out how other people in

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<v Speaker 1>that predicament got away with probation or you know, small

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<v Speaker 1>jail time, that sort of thing, and he's getting prison

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<v Speaker 1>like even bigger than football numbers, prison time like more

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<v Speaker 1>than mass shooters get, you know, And this shows I

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<v Speaker 1>think how the sentencing system is so open to interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>that at least like this anyway, In addition to the

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<v Speaker 1>truckers protesting and standing in solidarity with him, protesting and

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<v Speaker 1>boycott in Colorado, you can sign a petition on change

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<v Speaker 1>dot org and add your voice to the list of

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are trying to get his sentence commuted. So

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<v Speaker 1>once again, his name is ro Gale rog E l

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<v Speaker 1>Aguilera Mederos and you can check that out on change

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Before we move on, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>read this. He left an emotional address to the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, quote, I was working hard for a better

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<v Speaker 1>future for my family. Please don't be angry with me

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<v Speaker 1>for saying I was not out robbing a bank or store.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not out shooting up crowds or a school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working and I lost my break. Truck drivers

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<v Speaker 1>know this hard moment. When you lose your break, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do. I'm begging for forgiveness. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>thought about hurting anybody in my entire life. I think

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<v Speaker 1>those words are important. So if you want to help

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<v Speaker 1>out and become a better ally, you can do that

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<v Speaker 1>once again. Change that org Roguel Aguilera Mideros, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>That even the judge in that case thought that that

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<v Speaker 3>sentence was irregular and just way too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so hopefully we get that sorted out because that

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<v Speaker 1>really does seem harsh for an accident. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>what is a culture vulture? Well, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in researching this, you know, we Q and I

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<v Speaker 1>have this idea that we were going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of conceptual things before the year was over.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to just talk about current events we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about. We want to make bigger splashes

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<v Speaker 1>with this program and with this opportunity and with the

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<v Speaker 1>listenership that you are providing us, you know, the listener

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<v Speaker 1>and we recognize that being a black show that is

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<v Speaker 1>consumed by mostly non black people, we have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make things, give things a bit more feeling. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>in looking and trying to figure out how to define

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<v Speaker 1>culture vulture, what I what I discovered is that that

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<v Speaker 1>term exists outside of a black world. Who to thunk?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? The Oxford Dictionary has a definition for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course we have our own definition. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of put this together. So allow me to read.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Urban Dictionary, a quote culture culture is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who steals traits, language, and or fashion from another ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>or social group in order to create their own identity.

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<v Speaker 1>And believe me, it goes beyond traits, language, and fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it goes into speech, It goes into so

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<v Speaker 1>many little things that are even hard to kind of pinpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it when you see it. Right. However,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Cambridge Dictionary, it means someone who is very

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<v Speaker 1>interested in music, art, theater, and and the like, especially

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<v Speaker 1>to an excessive degree. Right, So if you've heard this

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<v Speaker 1>term culture culture and never associated it with Black folks

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, Native folks especially, or you know Asian people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that sort of thing, then we would like

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<v Speaker 1>to reintroduce this term to you with you know, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more perspective, a little bit wider view.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of the things that I believe are examples

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<v Speaker 1>of or born out of society kind of adopting. Adopting

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<v Speaker 1>is me putting it generously, but adopting parts of a

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<v Speaker 1>culture and normalizing it for the masses. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately end up in individuals having friction in the workplace,

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<v Speaker 1>on the street, or whatever as a result of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you might be a culture vulture thinking you

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<v Speaker 1>saw Kim Kardashian do something. Because Kim Kardashian is not black,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't think you got it from black people. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you trace it back to where Kim Kardashian got

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<v Speaker 1>it from, then you realize that it came from black people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you encounter a black person when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the mall who accuses you of, you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>these sorts of things, We're going to help make that

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<v Speaker 1>connection for you here and right here we have an

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<v Speaker 1>example body sculpting. Right, So historically Black women have always

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<v Speaker 1>been known to have curvaceous figures, right, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>built differently. That's not to say that we're not human.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's people from all different types of the

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<v Speaker 1>world that will build differently. There's some groups of folks

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<v Speaker 1>really tall. You know, if you go to you know, Samoa,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find one type of person. If you

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<v Speaker 1>go to you know, northern Africa, you're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>a different type of person. You know, all human, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but different types of people. And so Black women for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, have historically been known to be more curvaceous.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring about you know, music videos where that figure is celebrated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the in the nineties and the two thousands,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, society at large kind of adopts

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<v Speaker 1>this as kind of an additional beauty standard. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a valid beauty standard. You know, may not

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<v Speaker 1>love the skin, but the you know, the shape that works. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, then you see this boom and

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<v Speaker 1>body sculpting. Of course, that coupled with the advancements and

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<v Speaker 1>technology and medicine and cosmetic surgeries. This is a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you find people who are not known to

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain type of shape naturally now having this shape,

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<v Speaker 1>and then black people in this example looking at those

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<v Speaker 1>people and saying, hey, you know, in the past, we

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<v Speaker 1>would get ridiculed for looking like this. We would get

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<v Speaker 1>made fun of, we would be denied opportunities, we would

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<v Speaker 1>be told, you know, we look ghetto, We would you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. But when you do it, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, it's fine. You haven't paid the price

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<v Speaker 1>for this. You haven't felt the pain of what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like to not be a victim of your genetics

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<v Speaker 1>in a world that decided that before you were even born, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you were just born. Saw some stuff, saw like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like this. Okay, well I don't look like this,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me go pay a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I look like that. Cool, everything's good, everybody's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we're talking about a disconnect here. So body

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<v Speaker 1>sculpting is one such thing, but it goes beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hairstyles is a very easy one. Now I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. You I have a lot of hair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know it's a radio show. So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can't see me. But you know, Q keeps his

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<v Speaker 1>hair a little bit shorter than I do. I have

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<v Speaker 1>it reaches for the sky over here. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>into hairs as a as a statement. I believe that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to describe it. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really do anything with my hair has let it do

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<v Speaker 1>what it does, but it makes a statement if you

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<v Speaker 1>were able to ever see me. I know, same class,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Westernberg, class that I was in. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>in some tribes in Africa, braids were used two identify

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<v Speaker 1>different tribes, different statuses in the village, you know, different

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<v Speaker 1>status within your family. You know, the way you would

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<v Speaker 1>braid your hair. We're talking about like what would be

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<v Speaker 1>considered cornrows. I don't want to call them French braids

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<v Speaker 1>because those braids have been around since there were humans,

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<v Speaker 1>long before France existed.

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<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, these these sorts of things historically have

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<v Speaker 4>been associated with black hair, right afros, you know, short fades.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things like this. You know this is we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of mainstream hairstyles at the work.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Obama in the White House kind of normalized

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an edge up. You know, in mainstream America,

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<v Speaker 1>where that wasn't the case before. You know, go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look at you know, some other great leaders you

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<v Speaker 1>know that come from an earlier time. That wasn't a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was no edge up because you just

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<v Speaker 1>had to let your natural hairline be. Look at pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of MLK, look at pictures of Jesse Jackson, look at

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<v Speaker 1>look at all these pictures and no edge ups there.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama was the person that did that. So when someone

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<v Speaker 1>else comes along and says, hey, that looks cool. Drake

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<v Speaker 1>a heart in his hair, I think I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that too, you know, and you know you see

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<v Speaker 1>Drake do it, but you got to recognize that Drake

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<v Speaker 1>is black, or even if he's half black, we call

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<v Speaker 1>that black. You know that, and and you call that black.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where it came from. That one drop rule. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what I'm talking about, please google it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have one drop of black blood in your body,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you black. That is a rule imposed on

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<v Speaker 1>black people by white people in this country. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make that up. But Drake was not the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to part his heir. That is something that goes all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back. You know, we used to partner here

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. You know, it was a cool look

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<v Speaker 1>we had to part and the tail in the back

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. I know, you remember that. Q.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it goes back before the eighties as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. But I mean I was born in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties, so I can, yeah my timeline. Yeah absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know it's not just that, you know language,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. You know, I was watching a cartoon with

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<v Speaker 1>my son and it's called Adventure Time. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out at home. You know, it's holiday time

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<v Speaker 1>around these parts, and he's not in school, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>just hanging out, father and son watching his cartoons. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I hear these terms on this cartoon, this

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<v Speaker 1>kid show, you know, and it's meant to be funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, when it is funny, it's funny. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not we're trying to do, is show how a

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<v Speaker 1>person could be a culture vulture. It's not saying to

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<v Speaker 1>pay homage or recognize that other cultures exist. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>two different things, you know. But you know, you see

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<v Speaker 1>examples of language that is normal in a house like mine,

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<v Speaker 1>it's normal in a house like cues, but it's very

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<v Speaker 1>much it stands out in a cartoon. Everyone knows that

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<v Speaker 1>that is a hip hop term, that this cartoon character

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<v Speaker 1>is a white kid in a cartoon and a dog

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<v Speaker 1>is using He used a couple of them in every

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<v Speaker 1>episode because it was funny, right, But you see how

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<v Speaker 1>language can make its way into other circles, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you take too much of it, then you

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<v Speaker 1>start to look like, hey man, do you have are

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<v Speaker 1>you like? Did you get this? Honestly, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to have these conversations. One of my best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my best friend ever in the course of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, is a white man. Now I've known him

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<v Speaker 1>since he was a baby, but he grew up with me. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm four years older than him. He was three. I

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<v Speaker 1>was seven when we met. His name is Bootleg keV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're listening to hip hop stations, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might know the name. And Bootleg keV is often accused

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<v Speaker 1>of being a culture vulture, right, but his big brother

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<v Speaker 1>was black listen to Wu Tang and Snoop Dogg and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, and so that's what he

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with. He also grew up with his dad

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<v Speaker 1>and his mom, but he wanted to be like his

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<v Speaker 1>big brother and I'm not saying we grew up like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him a couple of Now, we grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>grew up together. My mom did not want me around gangs,

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<v Speaker 1>and the least gang looking person was this tiny little

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<v Speaker 1>white boy four years younger than me. We could play

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<v Speaker 1>with toys and play video games, and she knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was safe, and his mom knew that. My mom took

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<v Speaker 1>me to church, so I was safe. I was older, intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those sorts of things. So we had each

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<v Speaker 1>other growing up. So again, a person that gets it honestly, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to go back to the definition here,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who steals traits, language, and fashion from another ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>or social group in order to create their own identity. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if your identity revolves around a culture that's not your own,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're in the territory of a culture vulture. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to add something here, especially if you make

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<v Speaker 1>money from it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bingo is what if it was a graphic on

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<v Speaker 3>the screen, right then that would have been it?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>And even then, you know, because I recognize that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people who are just fans of

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<v Speaker 1>the culture that make money from it. And this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's white folks that go to you know, Southeast Asia

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, deep into China and to bet and

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<v Speaker 1>they find, you know, their nirvana and they find you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, And then they have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a life, so they make beads or they write books

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<v Speaker 1>of their travels and you know, whatever it is they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and they make money off of other folks culture effectively. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's folks that bring that back here and they start

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<v Speaker 1>meditation camps and you know, all that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and they make money off of another culture. Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>get that, But a lot of those folks are not

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<v Speaker 1>referred to as culture cultures. Some are, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not you know, this is not You

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<v Speaker 1>run the risk of getting called that and having people

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<v Speaker 1>take a stand against whatever it is you're doing. Any

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<v Speaker 1>time you do this, people tend to be very protective

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<v Speaker 1>of their cultures, their ideas, their ancestors, you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>legacy and their posterity. That's just a fact. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental part of who we are. We realize that our

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<v Speaker 1>lives are finite, and all we have is what we

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<v Speaker 1>were born with, and all we leave behind is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our stories, and so we like to be the author

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<v Speaker 1>of our own stories, right and outside. People who don't

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<v Speaker 1>really get it fully and they're not subject to the tomorrows.

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<v Speaker 1>They can leave the tomorrows if they so choose. Their

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<v Speaker 1>children don't have to walk this path ours do. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>people tend to really think like, hey man, you might

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<v Speaker 1>be playing with fire there. But I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>for those folks who do borrow quote unquote from other

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<v Speaker 1>cultures and make money from them. One thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>find with folks who are less often referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>culture vultures, is that those people tend to give lots

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<v Speaker 1>of credit to the source. They recognize that they are

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<v Speaker 1>not the divine, the most connected, the best of you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They recognize that I am not that person. I am

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of that person. That person's name is blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, or you can find that person over here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing what I do, and whatever success I have,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I've dedicated my life to it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot dedicate my children's lives to it in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that this person has to. You know, I recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>my past doesn't come from it. I had to find it,

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<v Speaker 1>and at best, there is no legacy that I inherited

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<v Speaker 1>here at best I had to learn starting at this

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<v Speaker 1>point to present day, and that is the sum total

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<v Speaker 1>of my connection. And I'm grateful to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>live and to participate and to benefit fiscally and fully

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate my life to this, you know whatever. But basically

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<v Speaker 1>falling on the sword, saying before anyone else can say

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<v Speaker 1>it effectively, I am a culture vulture. I mean no offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's where you find the actual source material. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I know this is because some years ago

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<v Speaker 1>I got really into meditation and living in Arizona. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like there's a lot of Buddhist temples here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not that kind of a place. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to countries where there are there actually is Buddhism is

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<v Speaker 1>practiced widely. Arizona is not such a place. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>when I go into the Buddhist temples, what do I see?

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<v Speaker 1>People that live in Arizona Mostly white folks, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it felt very authentic until I heard them address that

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<v Speaker 1>elephant in the room. I heard them fall on that sword,

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<v Speaker 1>and that made it better. Right, I'm not just this

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<v Speaker 1>way for black people. I'm this way for people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you are. You know, if I feel like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is doing something offensive to what I would consider my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>my Asian brother. I would not allow that. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not allow a man to take advantage of a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not you know, it's not just a black

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<v Speaker 1>and white world that I live in, right. But I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciated that, and I felt it hard after that

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<v Speaker 1>to think of those people as being culture vultures, even

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<v Speaker 1>though obviously the donations went to them and sustained their

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle and helped fund their business and their building and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get their books sold and so forth. They

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<v Speaker 1>really pointed back to the source material. A couple more

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<v Speaker 1>things that I need you to know is that culture

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<v Speaker 1>vultures can come from any culture, and they can be

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<v Speaker 1>to any culture. Right, So it's not just a black

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<v Speaker 1>and white thing, So you have to be mindful of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to read off a couple of these

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<v Speaker 1>other things, some of which might resonate with you. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just hairstyles, language, it's also dress, music, faith,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Any parts of the culture. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be. You know, if you wear your hair and locks,

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<v Speaker 1>you might know them as dreadlocks. We don't call them

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. Or if you have like Chinese symbols tattooed

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<v Speaker 1>on your body or tribal symbols tattooed on your body.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to ask yourself the question, what

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<v Speaker 1>tribe are you from? Right, It's a fair question, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you start peeling with it. It's not to say don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it. It's not to say don't do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>ask yourself the question because a lot of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>these are concepts of we're really talking about intent here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I make mistakes. I have made mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the travels that I've done, I recognize that sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I overstep. I walk on the carpet with my shoes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have known better. I'm so sorry. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also again, you know, we're talking about that sense

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<v Speaker 1>of entitlement that comes with being American, especially with white Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You can call it privilege, you can call them entitlement.

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<v Speaker 1>You can call it Karen energy or Kevin energy, or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the male equivalent is. I don't like using Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>as a term because shout out to Bootleg keV. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But and again, those are conversations

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<v Speaker 1>that he and I have, you know, where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, so you know some people are saying this,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do about it? He comes, he confers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't speak for all black people, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can let him know what I would do in those circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he takes that advice and he does

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<v Speaker 1>his best, and that's the best anyone can hope for. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk too much more about this

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to get your reaction and your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on the cue. So we got about thirty seconds, but

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<v Speaker 1>any thoughts before we move.

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<v Speaker 3>On in thirty seconds, iry, I just say this, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of nuance to everything that you've covered, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think the most important things that you pointed out

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<v Speaker 3>is that those who profit from without pointing back to

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<v Speaker 3>or paying homage to, are the ones that typically have

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<v Speaker 3>to wear this label. Yeah, it's not drastically more complicated

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<v Speaker 3>than that those who go out of their way to

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<v Speaker 3>point to where this whatever this is comes from. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>how did I get here? Why do I speak this way?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do I dress this way? What type of influences

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<v Speaker 3>caused this version of me to come to be? Because

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't born into this. I didn't like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get it, honestly, people who do that part

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<v Speaker 3>properly typically avoid that label.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, well, I appreciate that much insight. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we're not quite done with that just yet. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into our way black history fact. So yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Santa Claus this week, and the source for

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<v Speaker 1>today's read comes from Black Enterprise and Wikipedia. Combine these two,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll just read it. Santa Claus, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>Father Christmas, Saint Nicholas, Saint Nick, Chris Krinkle, or simply

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<v Speaker 1>as Santa, is a legendary character originated in Eastern Christian

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<v Speaker 1>culture who is said to bring children gifts on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Eve of toys and candy or coal or nothing, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on whether they are naughty or nice. He said to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish this with the aid of christ smiths elves who

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<v Speaker 1>make the toys in his workshop at the North Pole,

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<v Speaker 1>and flying reindeer who pulled his sleigh through the air.

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<v Speaker 1>The modern character of Santa is based on tradition surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>the historical Saint Nicholas and the English figure of Father

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas and the Dutch figure center clause right. So what

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<v Speaker 1>we see here is the combination of different stories in

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<v Speaker 1>different parts of the world that have kind of meshed

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<v Speaker 1>into what we think of as a guy in a

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<v Speaker 1>red sea or a black belt with a big belly

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<v Speaker 1>white Beard climb through the sky. The jolly mythical man

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<v Speaker 1>we know a Santa Claus has been traced back to

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Nicholas, who was born in the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>the third century to a wealthy Christian family in modern

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<v Speaker 1>day Turkey. As a young man, Nicholas secretly donated three

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<v Speaker 1>bags of gold to a poor father who couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 1>to pay his daughter's dowry and was going to resort

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<v Speaker 1>to selling them into process. For three nights, Nicholas threw

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<v Speaker 1>a bag of gold into the man's home window, but

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<v Speaker 1>on the third night, the father discovered that Nicholas was

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<v Speaker 1>the person behind the mysterious donations. Nicholas, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>devout lifelong Christian, became known for his generosity and love

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<v Speaker 1>for children, and was ordained as the Bishop of Myra.

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<v Speaker 1>After his death, he was immortalized as a Catholic saint,

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<v Speaker 1>and the anniversary of his death was celebrated on December sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Inspired by Saint Nicholas, a group of French nuns in

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<v Speaker 1>the twelfth century anonymously left stockings full of fruits and

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<v Speaker 1>nuts on the doorsteps of poor people's homes at night.

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<v Speaker 1>This act of charity soon became very popular and spread

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<v Speaker 1>across Europe, thus establishing one of the customs in our

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<v Speaker 1>modern Christmas celebration. Though Saint Nicholas has been portrayed in

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<v Speaker 1>icons as a white man with rosy red cheeks for centuries,

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<v Speaker 1>a modern day forensic study of the bishop's bones discovered

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<v Speaker 1>that he resembled a light brown man of color. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the cathedral built in Bari, Italy and ten eighty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to honor the saint depicts him as a Middle Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>man with very dark skin. According to psychology, today, the

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<v Speaker 1>Turkish born saint looked more like Osama bin Laden than

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<v Speaker 1>today's average quote white male end quote or Coca Cola's

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus. Regardless of skin tone, both Saint Nicholas and

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<v Speaker 1>the man, we recognize that Santa Claus are symbolic of

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<v Speaker 1>the joy of giving. Santa comes once a year to

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<v Speaker 1>bring gifts, love and hope to millions of children around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. In essence, he shouldn't be limited to just

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<v Speaker 1>one image or skin color. Instead, He should be embraced

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<v Speaker 1>as a figure of our imagination and accepted in all forms,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's traditional sense or as a modernized version created

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<v Speaker 1>by the Black Santic Company, Santa remind Us. Santa reminds

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<v Speaker 1>Us of light and humanity. That's a symbol that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come in just one color. You can learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>the forensic study of Saint Nicholas and his ethnicity in

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary Santa Claus The Real Face. All Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas time, you, Christmas is time, so let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Black Center. We got a little bit of time here.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever heard any kickback or pushback.

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<v Speaker 3>This year? Not this year specifically, but I've heard plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of pushback with regards to Santa uh and really just

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<v Speaker 3>the the way that we celebrate Christmas and the things

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<v Speaker 3>that we say it means that are not historically accurate

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<v Speaker 3>but are astronomically profitable. Mm hmm. I'll let you back

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<v Speaker 3>in there and we can we can play to watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that you know, Fox News historically

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<v Speaker 1>has had issues with this or or the like. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus is a scientific fact. Santa Claus was a

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<v Speaker 1>white man. Okay, well, there's three Santa Claus is here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about again, Saint Nicholas. That's not a white man, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the same way they talk about Jesus being a white man. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus was a was an actual person, in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that Saint Nicholas was an actual person. Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 1>is different. Santa Claus is a concept, right. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I find interesting, James Bond not a real

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<v Speaker 1>person's that's a I believe it's Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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<v Speaker 1>that wrote James Bond, or he wrote to Sherlock Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure which one, but whatever the case is,

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<v Speaker 1>someone made him up James Bond, right, and it was written.

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<v Speaker 3>These were books.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone decided to cast James Bond as a white man, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now there's an image there. And then years

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<v Speaker 1>later its elbow wants to play James Bond and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, I don't really know if James Bond

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<v Speaker 1>should be a black man, because we know James Bond

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<v Speaker 1>to be white. Right, Superman, right, as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>say Superman, you're listening to my voice. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I say Superman, dark hair, white skin, cape, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's got the blue joint with the red cape on,

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<v Speaker 1>tight clothes, with the little underwear on. Right, that's Superman.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it popped in your head. Offered Will Smith

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<v Speaker 1>to play Superman. He was like, no, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>want that problem, right Will Smith? You know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>good actor.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we're seeing is that there is oftentimes issues

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<v Speaker 1>with that. One of the things we never talk about

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<v Speaker 1>is how so often black characters are written. And what

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<v Speaker 1>is it called, uh, when you take something and make

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<v Speaker 1>it white. Uh, there's a term whitewashed. Whitewash, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>term so often that takes place. But when it's the

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<v Speaker 1>other way around, it feels a little like, No, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that, you know. And I think that by

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<v Speaker 1>us being able to tell a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>story about Santa Claus and his actual roots, one day

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do the same with Jesus, you know, But at

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<v Speaker 1>least for now, I feel like it helps loosen that

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<v Speaker 1>grip on a little bit. Hopefully loosens that grip a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on ideas. You know, think about this, If

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<v Speaker 1>I said the tooth Fairy is coming tonight, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you think in your mind? Why can't the tooth ory

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<v Speaker 1>be black? My older sister's actually writing a movie about that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just I just thought it was interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we got to talk about Santa Claus. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for everyone listening, you know, we hope your

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<v Speaker 1>holidays are or we're happy, depending on when you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this show. But you know, that's that's about it

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<v Speaker 1>for us. We're going to go and enjoy our holiday too,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, we're going to say this a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more times before the year is over. But we

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