WEBVTT - Miami Marlins team preview

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<v Speaker 1>They're attempting to be the Rays. You want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what the Marlins have that the Rays don't have two

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<v Speaker 1>World Series Craig, So why do they want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Rays? Why can't they just be the Marlins?

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, Craig Mish joining us, always making us

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<v Speaker 2>look bad with the background there, Craig. Great to have

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<v Speaker 2>you on. You can follow Craig at Craig Mish if

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<v Speaker 2>you're listening later it's m I s h. You can

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<v Speaker 2>hear him on sports Grid, also part of Harold Sports Craig.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>And where is that is that Lauderdale? That's not Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>That's clearly Miami, right, Yeah, good call. So I live

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood, which is in between Miami and Fort Lauderdale.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did spend a lot of time in Miami more

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<v Speaker 3>or less grew up there. But yeah, now I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>in in between there, so that I think that I

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<v Speaker 3>think that is like in the Aventura area.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, he's living that Hollywood lifestyle, near the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and Mike Napoli, him and Mike Napoli, or near

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<v Speaker 1>the horses right in Hallan. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Craig.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have some fun here. We're gonna try to

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<v Speaker 2>obviously spin a little bit of positivity into what it's

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<v Speaker 2>about to begin here for the Marlins, let's hit the storylines.

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<v Speaker 2>Fancy little front end, all right, ten minutes, four topics,

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<v Speaker 2>perpetual rebuilds, they tore it down again. New manager who

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<v Speaker 2>is Clayton McCullough. Coming from a very very winning atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a good sign. Can the Marlins turn themselves

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<v Speaker 2>into the race? Huge, huge question mark, but also massive goal, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why Peter Bendix is here. They said, can

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<v Speaker 2>you do that here? It's very close Tampa to Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>and that includes a little Norby and Stours conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>then pitching Haven Marlin's, you know, looking for some starting pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Lancelin on the show yesterday who said they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't called, so it'd be cool if they call called

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<v Speaker 2>him or other veterans for a little depth for that

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<v Speaker 2>starting rotation. Okay, so let's start with the overall outlook here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sandille Contrey's coming back. But since he's pitched Craig, he's

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<v Speaker 2>missing some friends. What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they started off the season the worst start I

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<v Speaker 3>can ever remember in the history of the Marlins franchise,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, Peter Bendix, the president of the Marlins

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<v Speaker 3>at that time, who was hired, recognized that very early

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<v Speaker 3>on in the season and decided at that point he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't believe they would make the playoffs. Traded Luis Raia,

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<v Speaker 3>as everybody else got traded in July, and then everybody

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<v Speaker 3>who was you know, sort of left over from a veterans'

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<v Speaker 3>point of view, was traded this offseason. So, as you said, Scott,

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<v Speaker 3>the goal is to do things very differently, and as

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen in the off season, you can hear a

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<v Speaker 3>pin drop. Has been very, very quiet, quietest offseason I

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<v Speaker 3>can ever remember, and I go back to nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 3>three because I've lived here for a long time. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>their goal is to draft, to develop internal structure, infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 3>data analytics, all of the things that some people love

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<v Speaker 3>and some people hate that we love to debate about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the direction the Marlins are going. And so Sandy

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<v Speaker 3>will start opening Day, He'll start against Paul Skeens. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the best pitching matchup in baseball that day.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens after that, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>But that'll be a great day.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they put in Clayton McCullough. He's done nothing

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<v Speaker 4>but winning in LA. But is there a chance is

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<v Speaker 4>there an opportunity for a manager to help an offense

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<v Speaker 4>that lost Jake Berger and was already in the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>of the league in stats, Because normally a manager comes in,

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, ah, the way he used the bullpen when

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<v Speaker 4>he was over at this team, it could really help.

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<v Speaker 4>But and Clayton McCullough helped the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Eric, look, I mean their offense was dreadful last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I honestly don't know how much worse it

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<v Speaker 3>could possibly be. I mean, people forget that even with

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<v Speaker 3>Jake Berger and with Jazz Chisholm, and with Luis Rias

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<v Speaker 3>for a couple of months and Jesus Sanchez and all

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<v Speaker 3>of the names that they don't have anymore, they were

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<v Speaker 3>still one of the worst offenses in baseball. And that

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<v Speaker 3>even goes back to their playoff season two. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a very tall task ahead of him with

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<v Speaker 3>this new hidden group that is there. You know, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of data analytics and new ways to view things

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of course statistical analysis and war and expected war.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is just a new day, So I

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<v Speaker 3>mean McCullough from all indications, is very much online Eric

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<v Speaker 3>with the way that the organization sees data and wants

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<v Speaker 3>to implement it in the future from the major league

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<v Speaker 3>to the minor league levels. They've basically wiped out all

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<v Speaker 3>of their minor league coaches too, So this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be integrated from the bottom all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the top. And whether or not it works remains to

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<v Speaker 3>be seen. But that's the attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the attempt, they're attempting to be the Raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Bendix came over and he wants to make him

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<v Speaker 1>the Raise. You want to know what the Marlins have

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<v Speaker 1>that the Rays don't have two World Series Craig, So

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<v Speaker 1>why do they want to be the Rais? Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>they just be the Marlins? Why does every smallish market,

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<v Speaker 1>even though Miami's a big market, want to be the Raise?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't they just why can't Peter Bendix come over

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<v Speaker 1>from the Rays and I know he's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>his own spin on it, but again, Marlins, every team

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be the Let's be the Raise. Let's be

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<v Speaker 1>the Raise. Let's be the Raise. Marlins have won twice.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marlins have never or the race. The Rays have

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<v Speaker 1>never won any times. So how about we just continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do what we were doing building because they had

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<v Speaker 1>skipstre Marker, they had a nice team. Why do they

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<v Speaker 1>want to start completely over from scratch and become the

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<v Speaker 1>Rays from the start?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>AJ, Look, that's the question that I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fans in South Florida have. They look back and

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<v Speaker 3>they see they won the World Series in nineteen ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 3>They see they wanted it in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 3>made the postseason in the twenty twenty season, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you remember a couple of years ago with Skip there

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<v Speaker 3>at the Helm, they made it too. But generally, AJ,

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<v Speaker 3>all of those seasons in between were pretty horrible and

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<v Speaker 3>they would like to have it a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>consistent now. Whether or not that leads to another World Series,

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<v Speaker 3>I think remains to be seen. But it is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be extremely tough for the Marlins to continue to

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<v Speaker 3>go about the way that they have been doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>even with those World Series seasons and compete in that

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<v Speaker 3>division with the talent that is around in that division,

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<v Speaker 3>money that's being spent there. So I think trying something

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<v Speaker 3>different and seeing if it works is definitely the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going to go by the way they tried

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<v Speaker 3>this several years ago when they bought the team and

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<v Speaker 3>Derek Jeter took over and traded everybody that they had

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<v Speaker 3>in Stanton and Yelich and Zuna, all these players got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of young players back in return. Really outside

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<v Speaker 3>of Sandi al contrad at the time, Zach Allen didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really get anything back in return for those players. So

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<v Speaker 3>here we go again. They're going to try it one

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<v Speaker 3>more time, but doing it in a different way again,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that the Rays have done it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Again remains to be seen if it'll work or not,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's the attempt.

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<v Speaker 4>Two best ways to improve the young pitching that you

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<v Speaker 4>have in a mire, in a you know, even in

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<v Speaker 4>a Yuri Perez type of way is to keep them healthy,

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<v Speaker 4>but also not overexpose them and put them around veterans.

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<v Speaker 4>So do they have a good recruiting chip in the

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<v Speaker 4>sense that they can tell a veteran, hey, come here,

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<v Speaker 4>recoup your value, gain value in this huge pitchers park,

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<v Speaker 4>or is it something that they're just gonna say, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>young guys, go ahead, play your game.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as pictures are concerned, I think they still

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<v Speaker 3>could potentially be in the market for one. It still

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<v Speaker 3>remains to be seen if they're going to pull the

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<v Speaker 3>trigger there. I don't know the answer to that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a fifty to fifty shot, but I know that they

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<v Speaker 3>really like the first three pictures in that rotation with Sandy,

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Weathers and as you see there, and Edward Caberra too.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, as you said, Eric gets very much a

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<v Speaker 3>mystery so from behind the plate, as you guys know, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that they could use, as we would say,

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<v Speaker 3>a one year mercenary innings eat or someone along those lines.

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<v Speaker 3>They still have time, you know, spring training, even though

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<v Speaker 3>pictures and catchers are reporting. This is not unusual for

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<v Speaker 3>baseball at this time where guys do sign late February

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<v Speaker 3>and even into March. So I'm sure as the spring

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<v Speaker 3>goes on they'll sort of determine which direction they end

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<v Speaker 3>up going from there. But they're very content with the

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<v Speaker 3>first three that they have. And let's also not forget

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<v Speaker 3>at some point this season and by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>know he said July, but I could see Yuri Perez

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<v Speaker 3>coming back sooner than that, and he's a superstar in

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<v Speaker 3>the making, So maybe June for him as well. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's not a lot of innings from the

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<v Speaker 3>previous season going into this season, and so they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to figure out one way or the other. They

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<v Speaker 3>were starting anybody and everybody last year.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, all right, Craig, last thing for you

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go. I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 1>see your background when we go to a one shot

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<v Speaker 1>of you, do you see the background of yourself? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we can we kick his one shot

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<v Speaker 1>around your little square? Can you see that? What it is? No?

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<v Speaker 1>What am I missing? No? It's the statue? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>bring back the statue? The pleas and left you? I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's outside, but can we bring act I know

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<v Speaker 1>outside in the ballpark it was like the most Miami

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<v Speaker 1>thing ever. If you go to Miami, expect dart Deco.

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<v Speaker 1>They went. They had the green walls, the aquarium. It

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<v Speaker 1>was cool. Now they have the dark blue walls, no statue,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have I don't know what they have exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>have a roof that works forks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beautiful stadium. But yeah, a j I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that's coming back. You know, they spent millions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to move that thing out, by the way, millions dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they could have bought her like a quality starting pitcher.

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<v Speaker 3>For that could have got blow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh But but look, I mean some people loved it,

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<v Speaker 3>some people hated it, and you know, a lot a

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<v Speaker 3>lot has happened in between then and now. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see them moving at a second time. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>every day at three oh five pm, the thing goes off.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you know that. Three oh five, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, makes sense. Three oh five that's the air for

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<v Speaker 2>anyone wonder. I do know well, and I do think

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<v Speaker 2>it was super petty, okay, because I know Derek wanted to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of had his little battle with David

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<v Speaker 2>Sampson and took it out. But not worth the money.

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<v Speaker 2>That money could have gone elsewhere, and it certainly did

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<v Speaker 2>not affect wins and losses on the field. I am

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<v Speaker 2>with aj. I liked it. Derek's tenure was a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Craig, great to have you on. Appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone go give Craig a follow. He is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>dialed in on the Marlins at Craig Mish. Good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you, Craig, Great to see you guys, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me. All right, here we go. This is actually

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<v Speaker 2>a good point in our chat from Mark. Behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes here. Miami Metro Area's second largest in the Southeast,

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<v Speaker 2>ninth largest in the US, Miami Metro Area largest economy,

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<v Speaker 2>urban economy in Florida. Not a small market, just small minded.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It actually makes Miami feel small with the

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<v Speaker 2>way that the Marlins operate. I think they're bad pr

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<v Speaker 2>for the city because you look at them if you

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<v Speaker 2>live somewhere else and you're like, oh, Miami must be

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<v Speaker 2>like this tiny little nothing with not much of a

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<v Speaker 2>booming economy. I mean, they can't even afford to sign

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<v Speaker 2>a player for the entire offseason and they have to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild after one year of the playoffs. Poverty, poverty franchise. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>only there was more action in that area to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to support the team. Oh wait, there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>money in that area. They just can't figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>game plan. The game plan is obviously they need someone

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<v Speaker 2>else to run it. But you can't control that in sports.

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<v Speaker 2>So poor Marlins fans have to keep suffering. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>many Marlins games during my time living in Miami. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>quick quote from kode I Senga while we have a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>He did not talk to Roki Sasaki during his recruitment process,

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<v Speaker 2>already was decided where he was going. He said he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks the weather in LA is a big factor for

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese players and the reason why the Mets haven't added

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<v Speaker 2>another top Japanese free agent. This is a great quote.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to build a roof. He's right, guys, especially

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Rokie aj Roki was going to sign for

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<v Speaker 2>about the same money anywhere. He already wanted to join

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<v Speaker 2>his friends in LA and then he does a little

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<v Speaker 2>weather check with La versus New York. He's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to pitch in rain outs and get

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<v Speaker 2>all screwed up and rain delays.

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<v Speaker 1>No thanks, most as my kids would say, boomer thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard. Okay, because are you kidding me? Haroki,

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<v Speaker 1>Kroota or not? Coroda? Sorry. Tanaka had no problem signing

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and did great. Matsuzaka went to Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>He did fine. No mo, when you got to Boston

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<v Speaker 1>he did fine. I just think this is a cop out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a this is this is a terrible take

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<v Speaker 1>by code. I singa. You play in cityfield, which is new.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not putting a roof on it anytime soon because

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Cohen doesn't have another billion to spend. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think after you spend almost a billion on one soda

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<v Speaker 1>and all the players he's brought in. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>just this is just a bad take. Like, you play

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<v Speaker 1>in the field, you play in and you deal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I mean, yeah, of course every team would

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<v Speaker 1>like to play in a don't, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't because baseball's meant to play outside and in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, they want their summers. They want to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>their summers, so you got to put up with a

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<v Speaker 1>bad month here and there. I don't think this has

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<v Speaker 1>effected anything. I just think this is a bad take.