WEBVTT - EB White & Maurice Sendak

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<v Speaker 1>Hi. Be uh. Why is Geraldine looking terrified and crouched

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<v Speaker 1>all the way on top of the bookshelf? Hi, Elliott Well.

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<v Speaker 1>In honor of one of our subjects today, writer E. B. White,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be fun to bring in a

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<v Speaker 1>special guest star to play one of his beloved characters,

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<v Speaker 1>Stewart Little, who you know is a a mouse. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we learned this lesson after I brought my son's

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<v Speaker 1>class mouse in Elephants are scared of mice? Oh, Elliott,

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<v Speaker 1>I never learned. Well, at least you didn't bring in

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest star from our other subject, author Maury Sendek,

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<v Speaker 1>who famously wrote and illustrated Where the Wild Things Are?

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<v Speaker 1>Right about that? It's a wild thing, Geraldine, make room

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<v Speaker 1>on that bookshelf. Wow, Elliot, great jump. Now let me

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<v Speaker 1>introduce you all to our other guest star, in honor

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<v Speaker 1>of Charlotte's Web, I also brought this spider. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that? I didn't, Oh, mice and wild things

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<v Speaker 1>were afraid of spiders. Wilsa didn't realize that bookshelf could

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<v Speaker 1>fold all that weight. It can't. Eric, here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think you know about the rates room?

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<v Speaker 1>This story? The game is on. Get some energy and

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<v Speaker 1>buckle up your brain because it's signed to play Who Was? Podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's time to favorites. Who Knows? Live from Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Bland or so called so Well Los Angeles. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Who Was? The history quiz show that gives contestants the

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win mega prizes and podcast. Laurie, I'm your announcer,

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<v Speaker 1>Me and I have definitely earned my stripes. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>fee joke. And now here's your host, the man who

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<v Speaker 1>makes as many fashion rules as he breaks. It's Elliott Helen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you be you know today is fashion? Don't? Is

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's fashion? Do? And welcome everyone clue Who Was? Podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>This show is like Jeopardy, only with secret guests, silly games,

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<v Speaker 1>and an unpublished secret menu. Okay, if you know, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Our two contestants were sent who Was books about two

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<v Speaker 1>great figures from history. Now they're here to show off

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<v Speaker 1>their knowledge in the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Prizes.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking about Babe White and Maurice Sendeth to

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<v Speaker 1>popular children's book authors Pool Club to say any characters

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<v Speaker 1>just as much as we do. But before we learn

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<v Speaker 1>about them, let's learn about our contestants. First up, we

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<v Speaker 1>have Athena. Athena, will you please introduce yourself. I'm Athena

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<v Speaker 1>and I have three cats. Alexander Hamilton's young in hammer

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<v Speaker 1>Claw and we will send off. I wrote my four

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny chapter book a year ago, and the pronouncer sheher,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, okay, so there was a lot of information

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<v Speaker 1>in that, thank you. Those were all fun and all facts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in this book that you broke. Um it's

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty chapter book. Yeah? What is it about dragons?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best word you could have said. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure what word you were going to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was the perfect word. I didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that, but that's a great word for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. So what is the title of your book?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I wrote it a your Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's in the past. I love. I love this attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, hey, I don't talk about my old work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's behind. I'm all about the future. So what are

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<v Speaker 1>you working on now? You're working on another book? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it also about dragons? Yeah, it's the same series. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of a whole series. Wow, well that is

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting. Um, I cannot wait to read this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I find out what the title is, I will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely check it out from my local library. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait when I go into a bookstore and I

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<v Speaker 1>say do you have this book and they say what's

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<v Speaker 1>it called? And I say, I don't know, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>about dragons and they say, we know exactly the book

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<v Speaker 1>you're target exactly. Hey, that's just another instance if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the secret venue of books. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>And with a thank you so much for sharing Athena

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<v Speaker 1>and with us. Today we also have Caroline, Caroline, will

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<v Speaker 1>you please introduce yourself. Hi on Caroline Branssa share and

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<v Speaker 1>I love drafts and you loved giraffe. Wow, that's so

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<v Speaker 1>cool because giraffes are like the dragons of the zoo

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<v Speaker 1>of the jungle, or zoo of the jungle, of these

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<v Speaker 1>two jungle zoon russ. Listen, this is not a show

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<v Speaker 1>about facts, except wait a minute, this is exactly a

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<v Speaker 1>show about fact. So hold on. Yeah, well we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>love to wait for the who was giraffes? Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a quiz show. Come on, come on, Who's who's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing the quizzic right here, Carolyn, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it about giraffes you like so much? It's good answer,

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<v Speaker 1>not the answer I expected. Again getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>would unexpected answers from our contestants today. What I like

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<v Speaker 1>about giraffes is those knobs on the top of their heads.

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<v Speaker 1>They're already super tall, they already have super long next,

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<v Speaker 1>they're already yellow. They don't need any extras, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>got them. Those weird knob horns on the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the head. What do they do? Did they serve a purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>The knob barns on top of their head? Oh, Producer

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<v Speaker 1>Jana saying, that's how you steer a giraffe. That makes sense. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>see there's the steering knobs. Well, uh, please don't try

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<v Speaker 1>at home, listeners, don't get on a draft and try

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<v Speaker 1>steering them with that would have a draft at home,

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<v Speaker 1>probably in your attic. It would just have to start

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<v Speaker 1>on the body floor and then end up in the

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<v Speaker 1>at it. Yeah, maybe it sticks his head up through

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<v Speaker 1>the chimney. Also, again, if you have a draft at home,

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<v Speaker 1>don't put its neck gun through the chimney. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>very likely you don't have a grab at home, in

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<v Speaker 1>which case if you'll get one and pick up that

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<v Speaker 1>book about dragons. Thank you both Athena and Carolin for

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<v Speaker 1>being with us today. I'm very excited about this show today,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course thanks to our musician Eric for providing

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<v Speaker 1>that lovely mut the contestants music and all the music

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<v Speaker 1>on today's show. So that's who is. Now Let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out who was Eb White with four fast facts Prospects.

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<v Speaker 1>EB White was born Elwyn Brooks White in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine and died in nineteen eighty five. He wrote over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty books for adults and kids, but he is best

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<v Speaker 1>known for writing the beloved children's books Stewart Little and

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte's Web. He was also a poet, an essayist, and

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<v Speaker 1>a humorist, and contributed writing and drawings to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular magazines of all time. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>winner of many awards, including the Children's Literature Legacy Award

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<v Speaker 1>and an American Academy of Arts and Letters Gold Medal.

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<v Speaker 1>Fool Prospects. So, Athena and Caroline were wondering, had you

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<v Speaker 1>read any of EB White's books before you read the

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<v Speaker 1>book about EB White? Caroline, had you ever read either

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<v Speaker 1>like Stewart Little, or Charlotte's Webb or Trumpeter of the Swan.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've read that, but I definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>watched Charlotte tried it's reading. Okay, cool. What about you, Athena?

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<v Speaker 1>Had you read any of those books? Um? I almost

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<v Speaker 1>read The Stewart Little in fourth grade, but um instead

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<v Speaker 1>I read am About Jackets. That's a good guess. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good guess about what the other book was. So

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen any of the any of the movies

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<v Speaker 1>like Caroline has Nope, I didn't know they existed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the books themselves, they're really beautiful books. Their favorites in

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<v Speaker 1>our household. They're very interesting children's books because there's something

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet about them, but there's also something a little

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<v Speaker 1>grown up about them. I feel like when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, eb Whites books were the most grown up

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<v Speaker 1>children's books that I read, and they really made me

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<v Speaker 1>feel special that way, because it felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting something more than more than I was used to

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<v Speaker 1>from kids books. They're really beautiful and a little sad,

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<v Speaker 1>so be per pair you've been worn. If you're reading

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<v Speaker 1>an ev White book, make sure you've got a box

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<v Speaker 1>of tissues next to you, because you're gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>prion and we need to drive those two ears. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you both so much for joining us. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>punctually this delightful conversation with our first game, one that

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<v Speaker 1>honors Evie White's poetry as much as his pros. It's

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's favorite rhyme with two lines, it's a couplet. One

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<v Speaker 1>it's a couplet. It's a couplet. In this game, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a rhyming couplet with one word missing. Fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the blank with the correct rhyming word. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if I said something like, when I look out the window,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a tree and on a branchise by my

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<v Speaker 1>co host named the correct answer is b which rhymes

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<v Speaker 1>with tree. Also, be get down from there, be get

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<v Speaker 1>back in the Cdo I told you I prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>work under dangerous conditions. Fine, and since this is our

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<v Speaker 1>first game, each question is worth one point. Take it away,

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<v Speaker 1>be Athena. Here is your couplict E B. White was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly no fool, But when he was a kid, he

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<v Speaker 1>did not like going to school. That's right, The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is school. Young Eb disliked school. That Pobe was still

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<v Speaker 1>always writing. He kept a journal for his entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>starting at age nine. He also won prizes for his writing.

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<v Speaker 1>At the age of nine. He went on to be

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<v Speaker 1>the editor of his college newspaper, and he enjoyed a

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<v Speaker 1>class about grammar from one of his college professors, William Strunk, Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And he revised Strunk's book The Elements of Style later

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<v Speaker 1>in his life. Okay, the next question is for Carolyn.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while, Ebe once worked on a cruise ship,

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<v Speaker 1>but before that went with his pal on a cross

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<v Speaker 1>country road trip. That's exactly right. The ANSWER's road trip.

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<v Speaker 1>After college, Ebe wasn't sure what he should do next,

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<v Speaker 1>so he and his friend decided to go across the

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<v Speaker 1>country in a Model T car they called Hotspur pretty

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<v Speaker 1>coolly in for a car. They drove from New York

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<v Speaker 1>State and ended up in Washington State, where Evie took

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<v Speaker 1>a job writing for the Seattle Times newspaper. Pevie later

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about these adventures as magazine articles. Through his experience,

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<v Speaker 1>he learned that he wanted to write about life as

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<v Speaker 1>he saw it. Okay, the next question is for Athena.

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<v Speaker 1>Be take it away, Athena, here's your couplet. Before eb

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<v Speaker 1>wrote Charlotte's web featuring a famous porker. He lived in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and wrote humor pieces for a magazine, The

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorker. Exactly right. The answer is the New Yorker,

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<v Speaker 1>and the New Yorker is a very influential magazine that

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<v Speaker 1>helps start the careers of some of America's most important writers.

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<v Speaker 1>But not me. They've rejected several pieces I've submitted. Abe

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<v Speaker 1>like the way that they combined news articles, humor pieces, poetry,

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<v Speaker 1>and cartoons. The New Yorker even helped to shape Ebe's

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<v Speaker 1>life by introducing him to other writers and to his

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<v Speaker 1>future wife, Katherine Sergeant Angle, who was a writer and

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<v Speaker 1>the fiction editor at The New Yorker. Maybe you've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Catherine, but she was instrumental in shaping American literature.

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is wor Carolyn for e b The

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<v Speaker 1>character of Stuart Little was a sure bet When he

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<v Speaker 1>was young. He even had a mouse as a pet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The answer is pet Ebe kept a house

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<v Speaker 1>mouse as a pet. The idea for Stuart Little came

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<v Speaker 1>to eb and the dream. He talked about it with

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Carol Moore, an important children's librarian. She didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good idea for a book, so he

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<v Speaker 1>put the idea away for years until a different editor

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<v Speaker 1>loved the idea. When he published Swart Little and Carol

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<v Speaker 1>Moore gave it a bad review and he was even

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<v Speaker 1>banned from some libraries. EB thought he had made a

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<v Speaker 1>big mistake until thousands of fan letters from kids poured in.

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<v Speaker 1>It remains one of the best selling children's books of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. And that's the end of the game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of that. It's a couple of amazing. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's scurry over to producer Jane with the spods HELLI

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<v Speaker 1>and B. I don't mind telling you we have a

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<v Speaker 1>tied game with two points each. Thank you Jane. And now,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and genm and mice, spiders and pigs, please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. EB whites bangs who was wandering in

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<v Speaker 1>the best? Hey, e B? Did anyone ever call you EBB?

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<v Speaker 1>Like ed but with a B? Yeah? Absolutely not cool?

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<v Speaker 1>That can be our thing? Then may I refuse? Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute here. The lesseners at home can't see this,

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<v Speaker 1>but EB has a soundboard in front of him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's hitting a different key at the end of his sentences,

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<v Speaker 1>and I sure, am there's that point again, what gives Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm best known for my work as a children's book author,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly more influential was my revision of the writing manual,

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<v Speaker 1>The Elements of Style. I thought that was a book

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<v Speaker 1>about like how to pull off wearing fancy clothes or

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<v Speaker 1>how to match shoes and all that. Oh, romm it be.

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<v Speaker 1>The Elements of Style is the book on the American

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<v Speaker 1>English writing style and punctuation. It's been named one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best and most influential books of all time by

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<v Speaker 1>critics and authors. Alight, okay, but it's a grammar book.

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<v Speaker 1>But grammar can be fun. I went up this soundboard

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<v Speaker 1>here to play a different sound effect to represent different

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<v Speaker 1>punctuation for your listening audience, grammar and funny noises. I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought all my interests with a line so completely.

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<v Speaker 1>This is genious. Ev I took the liberty of adding

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<v Speaker 1>an exclamation point on the end of that sentence for you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take you through the soundboard. If I were

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<v Speaker 1>to say, may I have a glass of milk? You'd

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<v Speaker 1>know it was a question by the violin string sound effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I remember my manners and said may I

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<v Speaker 1>have a glass of milk? Please? Then you'd know there

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<v Speaker 1>was a comma before the please, and those wiggly sounds

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<v Speaker 1>mean quotations. The tap is just the plane as you

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<v Speaker 1>please period. Wow? What about apostrophes, ellipses, semi colon? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're getting it. Would you like to try it? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Scooch should ad b I'm pretty sure he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm the grammar enthusiast here. I turned your

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<v Speaker 1>statement into a question. You should have hit the tap sound.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't a semi cool and that was a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he put your statement in quotations. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>rendered ironic. I'm just having funned with the Butlins boys.

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<v Speaker 1>She just flipped three exclamation points on the end of

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<v Speaker 1>that statement. This is chaos. Oh dear, now she found

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<v Speaker 1>the anson. You must be stopped. Would the love of

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<v Speaker 1>grammar do something to just combobulate that? My mind is

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<v Speaker 1>a jungle of quote some samas. Hello, producer Jane, what

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<v Speaker 1>I um plugged it? Producer Jane? My hero? Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>shall never forget you. Now I must be off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having chicken fingers with Shakespeare. You help me have some

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<v Speaker 1>new poems. Thanks again for having me, and thanks again?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was who? Thank you, Jane. Let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with more games, So don't go anywhere. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>play us some elements of style music, please ye before

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<v Speaker 1>you we're back on the Who Was podcast. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>finding out who was Evie White and who was Maurice

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<v Speaker 1>Sendack And now back to your host, Elliott Palin. Thank you. Be.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's keep the game moving and find out who was

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Sendak with four fast facts or hoss re. Sendak

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<v Speaker 1>was born in nineteen and died in twelve. Marie Sendek

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<v Speaker 1>was the son of Polish Jewish immigrants and grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn, New York. Marie wrote and illustrated many of

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<v Speaker 1>the most beloved children's books, including Where the Wild Things

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<v Speaker 1>Are in the Night Kitchen and Chicken Soup with Rice.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a celebrated lgbt q I, a hero, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has two elementary schools named after him. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>we're wondering the same thing that we wondered about Ebe

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<v Speaker 1>White's books. Had either of you read any of Maurice

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<v Speaker 1>sendacs books before you read the Who Was Marie Sendeck book?

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<v Speaker 1>I think in like first grade, our teacher read Where

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<v Speaker 1>the Wild Things Are but like I'm mostly remember the pictures. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures are really he drew those. I think Marie

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<v Speaker 1>Sendeck wouldn't mind that held picture. They're really gorgeous. Marie Sendex.

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<v Speaker 1>Arc is very It's very beautiful, and it's also can

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<v Speaker 1>be very funny, and it can also be very scary,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can also be very moving. Uh, it's really amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking about him a lot because I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>the you and the audience speak behind the curtain. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife is a children's life Barry, and we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>children's books a lot in my house, and Recendec is

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<v Speaker 1>a particular favorite of ours, very special in our house. Carolin,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that, knowing how important re Scendec is to me,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever read any of his books? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the wild? Where the wild? Okay, I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that. Since we're all familiar with where the

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<v Speaker 1>wild things are. Let's let the wild rumps start with

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<v Speaker 1>our next game sound effects Safari sound effects sound fetsioggery

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<v Speaker 1>sound effects faggery Why did they take a baby on

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<v Speaker 1>a Safari? In this game, we will play a sound

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<v Speaker 1>effect inspired by something important from Recendex life our contestants

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<v Speaker 1>will tell us what the sound effect represents. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is our second game, each question is worth two points.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is our first sound effect for Caroline. That was

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse's iconic laugh. Why is Mickey Mouse significant for

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<v Speaker 1>Maurice's life? Is it because a Maurice was rejected from

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<v Speaker 1>a job at Disney or be Mickey Mouse was Maurice's

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<v Speaker 1>childhood hero? B That's right, The answer is being Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>Mouse was born the same year as Maurice. Marie said

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<v Speaker 1>he loved Mickey Mouse because he was quote sassy and

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<v Speaker 1>always thinking of ways to outdo people. At least the

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<v Speaker 1>original version of Mickey was that way. Maurice would see

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse films at the theater, he would leap up

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<v Speaker 1>on his seat and scream. His sister and brother had

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<v Speaker 1>to hold him down. Maurice named Mickey the main character

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<v Speaker 1>of his book In the Night Kitchen after Mickey Mouse. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>next question is for Athena. Yeah, that sound effect for

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<v Speaker 1>you is kids playing outside? Which answer best describes why

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<v Speaker 1>this is significant to Maurice? Is it a Maurice was

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<v Speaker 1>often sick as a child and watched his neighbor's play

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<v Speaker 1>from inside his house. Or be. Maurice was once commissioned

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<v Speaker 1>by the Borough of Brooklyn to create a Maurice Sendek playground.

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<v Speaker 1>H A, that's right. The answer is A. Maurice often

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<v Speaker 1>watched the kids in his neighborhood from his parents window.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, quote, so many happy memories are being indoors

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<v Speaker 1>and looking out windows. Later in life, I'll staying with

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<v Speaker 1>his parents. Maurice overheard kids in the neighborhood talking to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. One Katie always noticed was a bold girl

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<v Speaker 1>named Rosie. He was so delighted by hearing the stories

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<v Speaker 1>she told other kids. He used her as the inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>for his book The Sign on Rosie's Door, which became

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<v Speaker 1>a musical called Really Rosie, another favorite in the Calin household.

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<v Speaker 1>The next sound effect is for Caroline boy v smra zoltsvaksena.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay Carolin. That was Elliott speaking in Yiddish. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>this be significant to Maurice's life? Is it? A? His

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<v Speaker 1>favorite musical was Fiddler on the Roof or B. As

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<v Speaker 1>the son of Polish immigrants, much of his fami only

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<v Speaker 1>spoke Yiddish. B. That's right. The answer is be. Maurice's

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<v Speaker 1>parents immigrated from Poland. His family was Jewish, so they

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<v Speaker 1>spoke Yiddish at home. Maurice's book Where the Wild Things

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<v Speaker 1>Are was inspired by the phrase of ild Ojaiah, which

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<v Speaker 1>his mother called him when he was a boy. This

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<v Speaker 1>roughly translates to wild animal in English. His Yiddish relatives

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<v Speaker 1>used to say to him, who looks so good? I

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<v Speaker 1>could eat you up, which is very similar to what

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<v Speaker 1>the wild things say to Max, the little boy in

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<v Speaker 1>the book. The final question is for Athena that is

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<v Speaker 1>a snippet from a Mozart song. How does this sound

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<v Speaker 1>effect relate to Maurice senday? Is it a Maurice loved

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<v Speaker 1>and was inspired by Mozart's music? Or b he had

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<v Speaker 1>a beloved pet cat he named mozart A. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is a. Maurice once said, I know if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a purpose in life, it was for me to

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<v Speaker 1>hear Mozart. I mean, wow, this guy loved Mozart. Later

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, Maurice designed costumes from Mozart's opera The

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Flute, and he went on to design over a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen more operas, including an operatic adaptation of his book

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<v Speaker 1>Where the Wild Things Are? And That's sound effects Safari

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<v Speaker 1>sound effects Safari Sari sound effects. Amazing game, everybody. You're

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<v Speaker 1>both doing so well. Let's wild rump us over to

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<v Speaker 1>producer Jane to get the scores. Oh, it'd be We

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<v Speaker 1>have a tie still with six points each, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere. We'll be back for our final game after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick quick, Eric, please play us some guild Ohaia music.

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<v Speaker 1>Please you're giving me Saurus Sally. Who was Marie Curie?

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<v Speaker 1>You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes or

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<v Speaker 1>FAPs from my episode of the Worst Podcast where I

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<v Speaker 1>played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite reviews about the Whoas podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my little sister love this show more. Please. Our

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<v Speaker 1>faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear your

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<v Speaker 1>review right on the app, make sure to subscribe, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and review to the Wah's podcast in the I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir or

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<v Speaker 1>should I stay abiato. We're back on the Whos podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where we're learning all about who was Ebie White and

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<v Speaker 1>who was Maurice Kenda? And now back to your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Elliot Kaitlin, thank you be With not a moment to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>We're heading on to our last game, Converge of Greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>In this multiple choice game, we'll explore how our famous

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<v Speaker 1>people connect, overlap, or converge. Choose the best answer for

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<v Speaker 1>each question, and because this is covering double the topics

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<v Speaker 1>of our last game, it will be worth triple the points.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds mad, but that's how we do

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<v Speaker 1>things on the who Has podcast. The first question is

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<v Speaker 1>for a theme. E. B. White and Marie Sendek worked

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<v Speaker 1>with this editor who helped publish some of America's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>children's books. Was that person a Ursula Nordstrom, b Amelia

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<v Speaker 1>Badelia or see Mr Popper, Penguins Random House. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is a Ersla Nordstrom was the editor to

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<v Speaker 1>both Morty Sendek and Evie White. Editors worked with authors

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<v Speaker 1>to help them improve their books. Ursula helped Morris Land

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<v Speaker 1>his first illustrating work, and when Ursla read Stuart Little,

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<v Speaker 1>she knew it was something special. She helped Evie publish it,

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<v Speaker 1>even after others put it down. She worked with Lebe

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<v Speaker 1>on Charlotte's Web and the Trumpet of the Swan. Ursula

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<v Speaker 1>what a visionary. Okay, next question is for Caroline. World

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<v Speaker 1>War two greatly affected Maurice and eb White. Sadly, Maurice

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<v Speaker 1>lost most of his extended family in Poland in the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 1>He responded to this terrible loss with the art and

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<v Speaker 1>words of his books. Eb White responded to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the war by writing A Stewart Little Too, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>Get Tiny, be his first and only rock album. Or

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<v Speaker 1>see a book about an ideal government called Wild Flag. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, the answer is see. Inspired by the First

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting of the United Nations, Evie wrote The Wild Flag,

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<v Speaker 1>a book filled with ideas on how one world government

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<v Speaker 1>could give everyone the same basic freedoms. Abe also wrote

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in support of the civil rights movement in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties and was early environmentalist who helped scientist and writer

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Carson get published early in her career. We have

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about Rachel Carson. Go check it out. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>But first before you do that, hold on, no go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out this next question. It's for a theme. Both

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<v Speaker 1>eb White and Maurice Sendek were dog people. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they had wet noses and floppy ears. It means

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<v Speaker 1>they love dogs. E b had a dog that would

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<v Speaker 1>walk him home from school most days, and Maurice wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book all about his beloved dog, who was named

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<v Speaker 1>a Mozart B Max or C. Jenny. That's right, The

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<v Speaker 1>answer is C. Maurice called his dog Jenny the love

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. As long as she was alive, Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>was featured somewhere in every book Marie drew. When Jenny

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<v Speaker 1>started nearing the end of her life, Maurice wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book all about her called Giggledy Piggledy Pop that ends

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<v Speaker 1>with her leaving home forever but writing a note to

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<v Speaker 1>Marie telling him she is very happy. Are so sweet?

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<v Speaker 1>And the final question is for Caroline. Eb White and

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<v Speaker 1>Maurice Sundeck were both influenced by the time they spent

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<v Speaker 1>living in New York City, but they both eventually left

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<v Speaker 1>for quieter places. Maurice and his partner Eugene lived in Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>but Be and his family moved to this state. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it a New Hampshire, be Maine or see Pennsylvania, Um Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. The answer is be Maine. Maine, and

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<v Speaker 1>the love of nature, animals and the outdoors played a

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<v Speaker 1>big role in much of Evie's life, starting when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a boy, he spent summers in Maine as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to help his allergies, and as an adult lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Maine full time and had a farm. He came

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<v Speaker 1>up for the idea of Charlotte's web after seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>spider's web near the pigs in the barn. All this

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<v Speaker 1>main talk is pretty cool. But if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>read a great essay about a city, read Ubi Whites.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is New York. It's a fifty five page delight

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<v Speaker 1>that's way shorter than a twenty chapter book about dragons

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<v Speaker 1>and almost as cool. And that's the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>round That heavenly music means it's the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it's almost the end of the show. While

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<v Speaker 1>we wait for Jane to write out everyone's points in

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<v Speaker 1>her web, I'd love to hear from the contestants, what

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<v Speaker 1>was something that you were surprised to learn about? Eb

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<v Speaker 1>White or Maurice sindec Athena, what's surprised you? Yeah, Maurice,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in his life wanted to draw till

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<v Speaker 1>he died. Maurice really loved drawing more than anything else

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Seems like even more than Mozart, and

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he was. He continued working all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>until the very end of his life, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to me, someone who hopes to never retire and

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<v Speaker 1>to be always writing and always hosting podcasts until they

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<v Speaker 1>forced the microphone away from me in the hospital when

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<v Speaker 1>a very long Again, maybe I'm like a hundred hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years old, and Elliott I, I steal the mic

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<v Speaker 1>from you all the time, and you know you're only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years so that's true, that's true. Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>was that a laugh from Athena at the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>I might be twenty five years old? Which it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not at tring at a while. Let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to Caroline. Caroline, what surprised you about eb White

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<v Speaker 1>or sine that he got inspiration for a Charlotte's web?

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<v Speaker 1>But seeing a spider web? Isn't it amazing how you

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<v Speaker 1>can see something so small just in everyday life, and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly it can turn into a story in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>I myself am also a picture book writer, and my

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<v Speaker 1>first picture book, which is called Worse Meats Dog, was

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by one seeing a dog looking at a horse

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to think about what does that dog think

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<v Speaker 1>about that horse? And isn't amazing You can just look

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<v Speaker 1>at animals and then suddenly you've got a story in

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<v Speaker 1>your head. It can happen anywhere to anybody. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow you will walk by something and you just glance

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<v Speaker 1>at something and you'll see it, and suddenly a whole

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<v Speaker 1>story would jump into your head. Hey, I've got an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>How about um uh, the giraffe in the attic, the

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<v Speaker 1>giraffe with the dragons or the giraffe and the dragons.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you both for sharing things that particularly spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>you in a surprising way about these figures from history.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for the great moment, Jane, please spin that news

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<v Speaker 1>in your web and announce our winner. Oh you've been

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<v Speaker 1>vi I don't mind telling you that once again, a

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<v Speaker 1>question about Maine has tripped up a contestant, Carolyn at

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<v Speaker 1>nine points, but my good friend Athena started ahead with twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job Tina and Carolyn, great job to the super

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<v Speaker 1>close game. Now Athena as our winner. You have ten

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<v Speaker 1>seconds for shoutouts. Who are you going to thank for

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you to this victory? Thanks Mom and Dad and

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<v Speaker 1>the school, besting m Chenna and altime besties come trying

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<v Speaker 1>to marry maryam Ses soon come time Nice. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Now our winner in their library of choice for receiving

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<v Speaker 1>a selection who Was Books? And I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>my own shout out to intern Zach, to Jane Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>to Matt Zambrano for being our eb white and to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and a big thank you to both of our contestants

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<v Speaker 1>for playing a simply wonderful game today, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to you the listener for listening. Next week

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Until then, Mrs Elliott Calin saying we are history. Goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody got a question for any of our famous figures were?

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<v Speaker 1>The Who Was Podcast is produced by a Radio Point,

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, and is based on

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<v Speaker 1>the best selling who each q series published by Penguin.

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<v Speaker 1>This show was hosted by Elliott Caylin with co host

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<v Speaker 1>Megan O'Neill as be. It also stars Jane Baker as

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Eric Shackney as Eric and Matt Zambrano as E. B. White.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliot Calin,

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<v Speaker 1>for Penguin Workshop is, of course, Francesco Sadda, and our

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<v Speaker 1>executive producer Fry Heart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, and Devin Coleman.

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<v Speaker 1>He was produced by Bernie Kaminski and Taylor Kowalski. The

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<v Speaker 1>talent was produced by Jane Baker. The theme song and

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<v Speaker 1>the music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney. It

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<v Speaker 1>was edited and mixed by Kate moulden Hower. It was

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