1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hi. Be uh. Why is Geraldine looking terrified and crouched 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: all the way on top of the bookshelf? Hi, Elliott Well. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: In honor of one of our subjects today, writer E. B. White, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun to bring in a 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: special guest star to play one of his beloved characters, 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Stewart Little, who you know is a a mouse. I 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: thought we learned this lesson after I brought my son's 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: class mouse in Elephants are scared of mice? Oh, Elliott, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I never learned. Well, at least you didn't bring in 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: a special guest star from our other subject, author Maury Sendek, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: who famously wrote and illustrated Where the Wild Things Are? 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Right about that? It's a wild thing, Geraldine, make room 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: on that bookshelf. Wow, Elliot, great jump. Now let me 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: introduce you all to our other guest star, in honor 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: of Charlotte's Web, I also brought this spider. Would you 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: look at that? I didn't, Oh, mice and wild things 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: were afraid of spiders. Wilsa didn't realize that bookshelf could 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: fold all that weight. It can't. Eric, here you go, 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: What do you think you know about the rates room? 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: This story? The game is on. Get some energy and 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: buckle up your brain because it's signed to play Who Was? Podcast? 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: Because it's time to favorites. Who Knows? Live from Tom 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Bland or so called so Well Los Angeles. Welcome to 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Who Was? The history quiz show that gives contestants the 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: chance to win mega prizes and podcast. Laurie, I'm your announcer, 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Me and I have definitely earned my stripes. That's a 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: fee joke. And now here's your host, the man who 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: makes as many fashion rules as he breaks. It's Elliott Helen. 29 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Thank you be you know today is fashion? Don't? Is 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow's fashion? Do? And welcome everyone clue Who Was? Podcast? 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: This show is like Jeopardy, only with secret guests, silly games, 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: and an unpublished secret menu. Okay, if you know, you know. 33 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Our two contestants were sent who Was books about two 34 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: great figures from history. Now they're here to show off 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: their knowledge in the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Prizes. 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Today we're talking about Babe White and Maurice Sendeth to 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: popular children's book authors Pool Club to say any characters 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: just as much as we do. But before we learn 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: about them, let's learn about our contestants. First up, we 40 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: have Athena. Athena, will you please introduce yourself. I'm Athena 41 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: and I have three cats. Alexander Hamilton's young in hammer 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Claw and we will send off. I wrote my four 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Johnny chapter book a year ago, and the pronouncer sheher, 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, so there was a lot of information 45 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: in that, thank you. Those were all fun and all facts. 46 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm interested in this book that you broke. Um it's 47 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: a twenty chapter book. Yeah? What is it about dragons? 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: That's the best word you could have said. I know, 49 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure what word you were going to say, but 50 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: that was the perfect word. I didn't think it was 51 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: going to be that, but that's a great word for 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: it to be. So what is the title of your book? 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I wrote it a your Okay, 54 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: that's in the past. I love. I love this attitude, 55 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: which is, hey, I don't talk about my old work. 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: That's behind. I'm all about the future. So what are 57 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: you working on now? You're working on another book? Yeah? 58 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Is it also about dragons? Yeah, it's the same series. Oh, 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: it's part of a whole series. Wow, well that is 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: so exciting. Um, I cannot wait to read this. Um. 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Once I find out what the title is, I will 62 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: definitely check it out from my local library. Yeah, I 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: can't wait when I go into a bookstore and I 64 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: say do you have this book and they say what's 65 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: it called? And I say, I don't know, but it's 66 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: about dragons and they say, we know exactly the book 67 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: you're target exactly. Hey, that's just another instance if you know, 68 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's the secret venue of books. All right, 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And with a thank you so much for sharing Athena 70 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: and with us. Today we also have Caroline, Caroline, will 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: you please introduce yourself. Hi on Caroline Branssa share and 72 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: I love drafts and you loved giraffe. Wow, that's so 73 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: cool because giraffes are like the dragons of the zoo 74 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: of the jungle, or zoo of the jungle, of these 75 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: two jungle zoon russ. Listen, this is not a show 76 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: about facts, except wait a minute, this is exactly a 77 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: show about fact. So hold on. Yeah, well we'll we'll 78 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: love to wait for the who was giraffes? Yeah, this 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: is a quiz show. Come on, come on, Who's who's 80 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing the quizzic right here, Carolyn, what 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: is it about giraffes you like so much? It's good answer, 82 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: not the answer I expected. Again getting a lot of 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: would unexpected answers from our contestants today. What I like 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: about giraffes is those knobs on the top of their heads. 85 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: They're already super tall, they already have super long next, 86 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: they're already yellow. They don't need any extras, but they've 87 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: got them. Those weird knob horns on the top of 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the head. What do they do? Did they serve a purpose? 89 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: The knob barns on top of their head? Oh, Producer 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Jana saying, that's how you steer a giraffe. That makes sense. Okay, 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: see there's the steering knobs. Well, uh, please don't try 92 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: at home, listeners, don't get on a draft and try 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: steering them with that would have a draft at home, 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: probably in your attic. It would just have to start 95 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: on the body floor and then end up in the 96 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, maybe it sticks his head up through 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: the chimney. Also, again, if you have a draft at home, 98 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: don't put its neck gun through the chimney. But it's 99 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: very likely you don't have a grab at home, in 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: which case if you'll get one and pick up that 101 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: book about dragons. Thank you both Athena and Carolin for 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: being with us today. I'm very excited about this show today, 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: and of course thanks to our musician Eric for providing 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: that lovely mut the contestants music and all the music 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: on today's show. So that's who is. Now Let's find 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: out who was Eb White with four fast facts Prospects. 107 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: EB White was born Elwyn Brooks White in eighteen ninety 108 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: nine and died in nineteen eighty five. He wrote over 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: twenty books for adults and kids, but he is best 110 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: known for writing the beloved children's books Stewart Little and 111 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Charlotte's Web. He was also a poet, an essayist, and 112 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: a humorist, and contributed writing and drawings to some of 113 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the most popular magazines of all time. He is a 114 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: winner of many awards, including the Children's Literature Legacy Award 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: and an American Academy of Arts and Letters Gold Medal. 116 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Fool Prospects. So, Athena and Caroline were wondering, had you 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: read any of EB White's books before you read the 118 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: book about EB White? Caroline, had you ever read either 119 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: like Stewart Little, or Charlotte's Webb or Trumpeter of the Swan. 120 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I've read that, but I definitely have 121 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: watched Charlotte tried it's reading. Okay, cool. What about you, Athena? 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: Had you read any of those books? Um? I almost 123 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: read The Stewart Little in fourth grade, but um instead 124 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I read am About Jackets. That's a good guess. That's 125 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: a good guess about what the other book was. So 126 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: have you seen any of the any of the movies 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: like Caroline has Nope, I didn't know they existed. Well, 128 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the books themselves, they're really beautiful books. Their favorites in 129 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: our household. They're very interesting children's books because there's something 130 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: very sweet about them, but there's also something a little 131 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: grown up about them. I feel like when I was 132 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: a kid, eb Whites books were the most grown up 133 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: children's books that I read, and they really made me 134 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: feel special that way, because it felt like I was 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: getting something more than more than I was used to 136 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: from kids books. They're really beautiful and a little sad, 137 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: so be per pair you've been worn. If you're reading 138 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: an ev White book, make sure you've got a box 139 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: of tissues next to you, because you're gonna be a 140 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: prion and we need to drive those two ears. Yeah, 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: thank you both so much for joining us. And let's 142 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: punctually this delightful conversation with our first game, one that 143 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: honors Evie White's poetry as much as his pros. It's 144 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite rhyme with two lines, it's a couplet. One 145 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: it's a couplet. It's a couplet. In this game, we 146 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: have a rhyming couplet with one word missing. Fill in 147 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: the blank with the correct rhyming word. So, for example, 148 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: if I said something like, when I look out the window, 149 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: I see a tree and on a branchise by my 150 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: co host named the correct answer is b which rhymes 151 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: with tree. Also, be get down from there, be get 152 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: back in the Cdo I told you I prefer to 153 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: work under dangerous conditions. Fine, and since this is our 154 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: first game, each question is worth one point. Take it away, 155 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: be Athena. Here is your couplict E B. White was 156 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: certainly no fool, But when he was a kid, he 157 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: did not like going to school. That's right, The answer 158 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: is school. Young Eb disliked school. That Pobe was still 159 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: always writing. He kept a journal for his entire life, 160 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: starting at age nine. He also won prizes for his writing. 161 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: At the age of nine. He went on to be 162 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the editor of his college newspaper, and he enjoyed a 163 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: class about grammar from one of his college professors, William Strunk, Jr. 164 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: And he revised Strunk's book The Elements of Style later 165 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: in his life. Okay, the next question is for Carolyn. 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: For a while, Ebe once worked on a cruise ship, 167 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: but before that went with his pal on a cross 168 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: country road trip. That's exactly right. The ANSWER's road trip. 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: After college, Ebe wasn't sure what he should do next, 170 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: so he and his friend decided to go across the 171 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: country in a Model T car they called Hotspur pretty 172 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: coolly in for a car. They drove from New York 173 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: State and ended up in Washington State, where Evie took 174 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: a job writing for the Seattle Times newspaper. Pevie later 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: wrote about these adventures as magazine articles. Through his experience, 176 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: he learned that he wanted to write about life as 177 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: he saw it. Okay, the next question is for Athena. 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: Be take it away, Athena, here's your couplet. Before eb 179 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: wrote Charlotte's web featuring a famous porker. He lived in 180 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: New York and wrote humor pieces for a magazine, The 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: New Yorker. Exactly right. The answer is the New Yorker, 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: and the New Yorker is a very influential magazine that 183 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: helps start the careers of some of America's most important writers. 184 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: But not me. They've rejected several pieces I've submitted. Abe 185 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: like the way that they combined news articles, humor pieces, poetry, 186 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and cartoons. The New Yorker even helped to shape Ebe's 187 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: life by introducing him to other writers and to his 188 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: future wife, Katherine Sergeant Angle, who was a writer and 189 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: the fiction editor at The New Yorker. Maybe you've never 190 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: heard of Catherine, but she was instrumental in shaping American literature. 191 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: The next question is wor Carolyn for e b The 192 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: character of Stuart Little was a sure bet When he 193 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: was young. He even had a mouse as a pet. 194 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is pet Ebe kept a house 195 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: mouse as a pet. The idea for Stuart Little came 196 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: to eb and the dream. He talked about it with 197 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Anne Carol Moore, an important children's librarian. She didn't think 198 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: it was a good idea for a book, so he 199 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: put the idea away for years until a different editor 200 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: loved the idea. When he published Swart Little and Carol 201 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Moore gave it a bad review and he was even 202 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: banned from some libraries. EB thought he had made a 203 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: big mistake until thousands of fan letters from kids poured in. 204 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: It remains one of the best selling children's books of 205 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: all time. And that's the end of the game. It's 206 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: a couple of that. It's a couple of amazing. Now 207 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: let's scurry over to producer Jane with the spods HELLI 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and B. I don't mind telling you we have a 209 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: tied game with two points each. Thank you Jane. And now, 210 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: ladies and genm and mice, spiders and pigs, please welcome 211 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: to the show. EB whites bangs who was wandering in 212 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: the best? Hey, e B? Did anyone ever call you EBB? 213 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Like ed but with a B? Yeah? Absolutely not cool? 214 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: That can be our thing? Then may I refuse? Wait 215 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: a minute here. The lesseners at home can't see this, 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: but EB has a soundboard in front of him and 217 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: he's hitting a different key at the end of his sentences, 218 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: and I sure, am there's that point again, what gives Well. 219 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm best known for my work as a children's book author, 220 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: but certainly more influential was my revision of the writing manual, 221 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: The Elements of Style. I thought that was a book 222 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: about like how to pull off wearing fancy clothes or 223 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: how to match shoes and all that. Oh, romm it be. 224 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: The Elements of Style is the book on the American 225 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: English writing style and punctuation. It's been named one of 226 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the best and most influential books of all time by 227 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: critics and authors. Alight, okay, but it's a grammar book. 228 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: But grammar can be fun. I went up this soundboard 229 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: here to play a different sound effect to represent different 230 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: punctuation for your listening audience, grammar and funny noises. I 231 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: never thought all my interests with a line so completely. 232 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: This is genious. Ev I took the liberty of adding 233 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: an exclamation point on the end of that sentence for you. Now, 234 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: let me take you through the soundboard. If I were 235 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: to say, may I have a glass of milk? You'd 236 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: know it was a question by the violin string sound effect. 237 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: And if I remember my manners and said may I 238 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: have a glass of milk? Please? Then you'd know there 239 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: was a comma before the please, and those wiggly sounds 240 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: mean quotations. The tap is just the plane as you 241 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: please period. Wow? What about apostrophes, ellipses, semi colon? Yeah, 242 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: now you're getting it. Would you like to try it? Sure, 243 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Scooch should ad b I'm pretty sure he was talking 244 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to me. I'm the grammar enthusiast here. I turned your 245 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: statement into a question. You should have hit the tap sound. 246 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: That wasn't a semi cool and that was a statement. 247 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, he put your statement in quotations. It's been 248 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: rendered ironic. I'm just having funned with the Butlins boys. 249 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: She just flipped three exclamation points on the end of 250 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: that statement. This is chaos. Oh dear, now she found 251 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: the anson. You must be stopped. Would the love of 252 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: grammar do something to just combobulate that? My mind is 253 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: a jungle of quote some samas. Hello, producer Jane, what 254 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I um plugged it? Producer Jane? My hero? Oh I 255 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: shall never forget you. Now I must be off. I'm 256 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: having chicken fingers with Shakespeare. You help me have some 257 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: new poems. Thanks again for having me, and thanks again? 258 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: Who was who? Thank you, Jane. Let's take a quick break. 259 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more games, So don't go anywhere. Eric, 260 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: play us some elements of style music, please ye before 261 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: you we're back on the Who Was podcast. Today we're 262 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: finding out who was Evie White and who was Maurice 263 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: Sendack And now back to your host, Elliott Palin. Thank you. Be. 264 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Let's keep the game moving and find out who was 265 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Marie Sendak with four fast facts or hoss re. Sendak 266 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen and died in twelve. Marie Sendek 267 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: was the son of Polish Jewish immigrants and grew up 268 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York. Marie wrote and illustrated many of 269 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: the most beloved children's books, including Where the Wild Things 270 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Are in the Night Kitchen and Chicken Soup with Rice. 271 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: He is a celebrated lgbt q I, a hero, and 272 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: he has two elementary schools named after him. Okay, now 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: we're wondering the same thing that we wondered about Ebe 274 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: White's books. Had either of you read any of Maurice 275 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: sendacs books before you read the Who Was Marie Sendeck book? 276 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I think in like first grade, our teacher read Where 277 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: the Wild Things Are but like I'm mostly remember the pictures. Yeah, 278 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: the pictures are really he drew those. I think Marie 279 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Sendeck wouldn't mind that held picture. They're really gorgeous. Marie Sendex. 280 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: Arc is very It's very beautiful, and it's also can 281 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: be very funny, and it can also be very scary, 282 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: and it can also be very moving. Uh, it's really amazing. 283 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm speaking about him a lot because I'm gonna let 284 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: the you and the audience speak behind the curtain. My 285 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: wife is a children's life Barry, and we talk about 286 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: children's books a lot in my house, and Recendec is 287 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: a particular favorite of ours, very special in our house. Carolin, 288 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: knowing that, knowing how important re Scendec is to me, 289 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: have you ever read any of his books? I don't 290 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: think the wild? Where the wild? Okay, I'll take that. 291 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I'll take that. Since we're all familiar with where the 292 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: wild things are. Let's let the wild rumps start with 293 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: our next game sound effects Safari sound effects sound fetsioggery 294 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: sound effects faggery Why did they take a baby on 295 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: a Safari? In this game, we will play a sound 296 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: effect inspired by something important from Recendex life our contestants 297 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: will tell us what the sound effect represents. Because this 298 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: is our second game, each question is worth two points. 299 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Here is our first sound effect for Caroline. That was 300 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse's iconic laugh. Why is Mickey Mouse significant for 301 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Maurice's life? Is it because a Maurice was rejected from 302 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: a job at Disney or be Mickey Mouse was Maurice's 303 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: childhood hero? B That's right, The answer is being Mickey 304 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Mouse was born the same year as Maurice. Marie said 305 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: he loved Mickey Mouse because he was quote sassy and 306 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: always thinking of ways to outdo people. At least the 307 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: original version of Mickey was that way. Maurice would see 308 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse films at the theater, he would leap up 309 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: on his seat and scream. His sister and brother had 310 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: to hold him down. Maurice named Mickey the main character 311 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: of his book In the Night Kitchen after Mickey Mouse. Okay, 312 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: next question is for Athena. Yeah, that sound effect for 313 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: you is kids playing outside? Which answer best describes why 314 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: this is significant to Maurice? Is it a Maurice was 315 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: often sick as a child and watched his neighbor's play 316 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: from inside his house. Or be. Maurice was once commissioned 317 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: by the Borough of Brooklyn to create a Maurice Sendek playground. 318 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: H A, that's right. The answer is A. Maurice often 319 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: watched the kids in his neighborhood from his parents window. 320 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: He said, quote, so many happy memories are being indoors 321 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and looking out windows. Later in life, I'll staying with 322 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: his parents. Maurice overheard kids in the neighborhood talking to 323 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: each other. One Katie always noticed was a bold girl 324 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: named Rosie. He was so delighted by hearing the stories 325 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: she told other kids. He used her as the inspiration 326 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: for his book The Sign on Rosie's Door, which became 327 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: a musical called Really Rosie, another favorite in the Calin household. 328 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: The next sound effect is for Caroline boy v smra zoltsvaksena. 329 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: Okay Carolin. That was Elliott speaking in Yiddish. Why would 330 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: this be significant to Maurice's life? Is it? A? His 331 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: favorite musical was Fiddler on the Roof or B. As 332 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: the son of Polish immigrants, much of his fami only 333 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: spoke Yiddish. B. That's right. The answer is be. Maurice's 334 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: parents immigrated from Poland. His family was Jewish, so they 335 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: spoke Yiddish at home. Maurice's book Where the Wild Things 336 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Are was inspired by the phrase of ild Ojaiah, which 337 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: his mother called him when he was a boy. This 338 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: roughly translates to wild animal in English. His Yiddish relatives 339 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: used to say to him, who looks so good? I 340 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: could eat you up, which is very similar to what 341 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: the wild things say to Max, the little boy in 342 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: the book. The final question is for Athena that is 343 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: a snippet from a Mozart song. How does this sound 344 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: effect relate to Maurice senday? Is it a Maurice loved 345 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: and was inspired by Mozart's music? Or b he had 346 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: a beloved pet cat he named mozart A. That's right, 347 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: The answer is a. Maurice once said, I know if 348 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: there's a purpose in life, it was for me to 349 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: hear Mozart. I mean, wow, this guy loved Mozart. Later 350 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: in his career, Maurice designed costumes from Mozart's opera The 351 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Magic Flute, and he went on to design over a 352 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: dozen more operas, including an operatic adaptation of his book 353 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Where the Wild Things Are? And That's sound effects Safari 354 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: sound effects Safari Sari sound effects. Amazing game, everybody. You're 355 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: both doing so well. Let's wild rump us over to 356 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: producer Jane to get the scores. Oh, it'd be We 357 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: have a tie still with six points each, and don't 358 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: go anywhere. We'll be back for our final game after this. 359 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: Pick quick, Eric, please play us some guild Ohaia music. 360 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Please you're giving me Saurus Sally. Who was Marie Curie? 361 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes or 362 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: FAPs from my episode of the Worst Podcast where I 363 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read 364 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: one of my favorite reviews about the Whoas podcast. This 365 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this Me 366 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: and my little sister love this show more. Please. Our 367 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear your 368 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: review right on the app, make sure to subscribe, like, 369 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and review to the Wah's podcast in the I Heart 370 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: Radio up or wherever you give your podcasts revoir or 371 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: should I stay abiato. We're back on the Whos podcast 372 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: where we're learning all about who was Ebie White and 373 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: who was Maurice Kenda? And now back to your host, 374 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Elliot Kaitlin, thank you be With not a moment to lose, 375 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: We're heading on to our last game, Converge of Greatness. 376 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: In this multiple choice game, we'll explore how our famous 377 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: people connect, overlap, or converge. Choose the best answer for 378 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: each question, and because this is covering double the topics 379 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: of our last game, it will be worth triple the points. 380 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: I know it sounds mad, but that's how we do 381 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: things on the who Has podcast. The first question is 382 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: for a theme. E. B. White and Marie Sendek worked 383 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: with this editor who helped publish some of America's favorite 384 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: children's books. Was that person a Ursula Nordstrom, b Amelia 385 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Badelia or see Mr Popper, Penguins Random House. That's right, 386 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: the answer is a Ersla Nordstrom was the editor to 387 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: both Morty Sendek and Evie White. Editors worked with authors 388 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: to help them improve their books. Ursula helped Morris Land 389 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: his first illustrating work, and when Ursla read Stuart Little, 390 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: she knew it was something special. She helped Evie publish it, 391 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: even after others put it down. She worked with Lebe 392 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: on Charlotte's Web and the Trumpet of the Swan. Ursula 393 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: what a visionary. Okay, next question is for Caroline. World 394 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: War two greatly affected Maurice and eb White. Sadly, Maurice 395 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: lost most of his extended family in Poland in the Holocaust. 396 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: He responded to this terrible loss with the art and 397 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: words of his books. Eb White responded to the end 398 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: of the war by writing A Stewart Little Too, Let's 399 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: Get Tiny, be his first and only rock album. Or 400 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: see a book about an ideal government called Wild Flag. Yes, 401 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: you're right, the answer is see. Inspired by the First 402 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Meeting of the United Nations, Evie wrote The Wild Flag, 403 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: a book filled with ideas on how one world government 404 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: could give everyone the same basic freedoms. Abe also wrote 405 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: pieces in support of the civil rights movement in nineteen 406 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: sixties and was early environmentalist who helped scientist and writer 407 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: Rachel Carson get published early in her career. We have 408 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: an episode about Rachel Carson. Go check it out. It's great. 409 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: But first before you do that, hold on, no go anywhere. 410 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: Check out this next question. It's for a theme. Both 411 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: eb White and Maurice Sendek were dog people. That doesn't 412 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: mean they had wet noses and floppy ears. It means 413 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: they love dogs. E b had a dog that would 414 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: walk him home from school most days, and Maurice wrote 415 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: a book all about his beloved dog, who was named 416 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: a Mozart B Max or C. Jenny. That's right, The 417 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: answer is C. Maurice called his dog Jenny the love 418 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: of my life. As long as she was alive, Jenny 419 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: was featured somewhere in every book Marie drew. When Jenny 420 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: started nearing the end of her life, Maurice wrote a 421 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: book all about her called Giggledy Piggledy Pop that ends 422 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: with her leaving home forever but writing a note to 423 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: Marie telling him she is very happy. Are so sweet? 424 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: And the final question is for Caroline. Eb White and 425 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Maurice Sundeck were both influenced by the time they spent 426 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: living in New York City, but they both eventually left 427 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: for quieter places. Maurice and his partner Eugene lived in Connecticut, 428 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: but Be and his family moved to this state. Was 429 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: it a New Hampshire, be Maine or see Pennsylvania, Um Pennsylvania. 430 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. The answer is be Maine. Maine, and 431 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: the love of nature, animals and the outdoors played a 432 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: big role in much of Evie's life, starting when he 433 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: was a boy, he spent summers in Maine as a 434 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: way to help his allergies, and as an adult lived 435 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: in Maine full time and had a farm. He came 436 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: up for the idea of Charlotte's web after seeing a 437 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: spider's web near the pigs in the barn. All this 438 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: main talk is pretty cool. But if you want to 439 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: read a great essay about a city, read Ubi Whites. 440 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: Here is New York. It's a fifty five page delight 441 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: that's way shorter than a twenty chapter book about dragons 442 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: and almost as cool. And that's the end of the 443 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: round That heavenly music means it's the end of the game, 444 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: which means it's almost the end of the show. While 445 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: we wait for Jane to write out everyone's points in 446 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: her web, I'd love to hear from the contestants, what 447 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: was something that you were surprised to learn about? Eb 448 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: White or Maurice sindec Athena, what's surprised you? Yeah, Maurice, 449 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: at some point in his life wanted to draw till 450 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: he died. Maurice really loved drawing more than anything else 451 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: in the world. Seems like even more than Mozart, and 452 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: yeah he was. He continued working all the way up 453 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: until the very end of his life, which is very 454 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: exciting to me, someone who hopes to never retire and 455 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: to be always writing and always hosting podcasts until they 456 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: forced the microphone away from me in the hospital when 457 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: a very long Again, maybe I'm like a hundred hundred 458 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: fifty years old, and Elliott I, I steal the mic 459 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: from you all the time, and you know you're only 460 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: twenty five years so that's true, that's true. Wait a minute, 461 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: was that a laugh from Athena at the idea that 462 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: I might be twenty five years old? Which it's true. 463 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: I am not at tring at a while. Let's move 464 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: on to Caroline. Caroline, what surprised you about eb White 465 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: or sine that he got inspiration for a Charlotte's web? 466 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: But seeing a spider web? Isn't it amazing how you 467 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: can see something so small just in everyday life, and 468 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: suddenly it can turn into a story in your head. 469 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: I myself am also a picture book writer, and my 470 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: first picture book, which is called Worse Meats Dog, was 471 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: inspired by one seeing a dog looking at a horse 472 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: and trying to think about what does that dog think 473 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: about that horse? And isn't amazing You can just look 474 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: at animals and then suddenly you've got a story in 475 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: your head. It can happen anywhere to anybody. I bet 476 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow you will walk by something and you just glance 477 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: at something and you'll see it, and suddenly a whole 478 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: story would jump into your head. Hey, I've got an idea. 479 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: How about um uh, the giraffe in the attic, the 480 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: giraffe with the dragons or the giraffe and the dragons. 481 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: Thank you both for sharing things that particularly spoke to 482 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: you in a surprising way about these figures from history. 483 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Now for the great moment, Jane, please spin that news 484 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: in your web and announce our winner. Oh you've been 485 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: vi I don't mind telling you that once again, a 486 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: question about Maine has tripped up a contestant, Carolyn at 487 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: nine points, but my good friend Athena started ahead with twelve. 488 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Great job Tina and Carolyn, great job to the super 489 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: close game. Now Athena as our winner. You have ten 490 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: seconds for shoutouts. Who are you going to thank for 491 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: bringing you to this victory? Thanks Mom and Dad and 492 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: the school, besting m Chenna and altime besties come trying 493 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: to marry maryam Ses soon come time Nice. That's great. 494 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: Now our winner in their library of choice for receiving 495 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: a selection who Was Books? And I'm going to give 496 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: my own shout out to intern Zach, to Jane Eric, 497 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: to Matt Zambrano for being our eb white and to be, 498 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: and a big thank you to both of our contestants 499 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: for playing a simply wonderful game today, and of course 500 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: thank you to you the listener for listening. Next week 501 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll find out about two more amazing people from the past. 502 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Until then, Mrs Elliott Calin saying we are history. Goodbye. 503 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Everybody got a question for any of our famous figures were? 504 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to be a contestant? Send us a 505 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail dot 506 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: com it or you might just end up on the show. 507 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: The Who Was Podcast is produced by a Radio Point, 508 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, and is based on 509 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the best selling who each q series published by Penguin. 510 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: This show was hosted by Elliott Caylin with co host 511 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: Megan O'Neill as be. It also stars Jane Baker as 512 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: Jane Eric Shackney as Eric and Matt Zambrano as E. B. White. 513 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliot Calin, 514 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Our executive producer 515 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: for Penguin Workshop is, of course, Francesco Sadda, and our 516 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: executive producer Fry Heart Media is Lindsay Hoffman. This episode 517 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Caylin, and Devin Coleman. 518 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: He was produced by Bernie Kaminski and Taylor Kowalski. The 519 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: talent was produced by Jane Baker. The theme song and 520 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: the music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney. It 521 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: was edited and mixed by Kate moulden Hower. 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