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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, yesterday, at this time we were telling you

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Speaker 2: about the three women who were attacked by a homeless guy,

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Speaker 2: some psycho vagrant and in Santa Monica on the beach

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Speaker 2: just a little bit north of the pier. And you know,

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Speaker 2: now the beach has been invaded, by the way by

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Speaker 2: a lot of strange vagrants, a lot of dangerous, scary

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Speaker 2: people in Santa Monica. The city and the city council there,

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Speaker 2: the mayor, who have jurisdiction over the beach will not

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Speaker 2: do anything about it. So yesterday we almost had the

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Speaker 2: worst case scenario where one of these crazy vagrants attacked

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Speaker 2: not one, not two, not it was three women, three

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Speaker 2: women in a matter of minutes. We played a clip

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Speaker 2: of one of the women describing what happened.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: KTLA Channel five has a report on who this guy

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Speaker 2: is and it turns out he's a sex offender, a

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Speaker 2: registered sex offender. He's on Californian's California's Megan's Law website

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Speaker 2: and we looked him up and he is there. His

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Speaker 2: name is jo Wan j A W A N and

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Speaker 2: Joan interesting spelling. Dwayne Garnett listen to this report on

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Speaker 2: KTLA five Carlos Soceta.

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Speaker 3: He had a hold of my neck a couple times,

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Speaker 3: and I I've never seen somebody so devoid of humanity

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Speaker 4: Jenna Wolker is being called a hero after she stepped

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Speaker 4: in to save a seventeen year old girl's life as

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Speaker 4: she was brutally attacked while lying on the beach.

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Speaker 3: And I heard her scream and I just pure instinct

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Speaker 3: He basically just ignored my existence till I got physical

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Speaker 4: Jenna tackled a suspect to free the teen, but in return,

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Speaker 4: she became the focus of the man's vicious rage.

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Speaker 3: He did try to pull my pants to the side,

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Speaker 3: my boxers to the side, that kind of indicated it,

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Speaker 3: and him biting my ear almost clean off like he

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Speaker 4: Jenna was able to snap this picture of her attacker.

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Speaker 4: You can see part of his face and r He

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Speaker 4: has been identified by police as thirty one year old

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Speaker 4: Juwan Duayane Garnett. He is a registered sex offender with

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Speaker 4: a profile on the Megan's Law website. Once Jenna freed herself,

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Speaker 4: the assailant allegedly moved on to a third victim. Police

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Speaker 4: a Garnett then attempted to drown an elderly woman who

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Speaker 4: was walking on the waterline. That's when lifeguards and police

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Speaker 5: Sixty to seventy percent of our arrests in any given

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Speaker 5: year are of homeless individuals. It's obviously something that we

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Speaker 5: deal with year in and year out. That's been consistent

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Speaker 5: for many years now.

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Speaker 4: Jenna is homeless herself and says the transient community often

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Speaker 4: has to rely on one another to stay safe. She

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Speaker 4: recalls seeing the suspect the night before asking around for drugs.

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Speaker 3: I do have a nice group of men who keep

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Speaker 3: me safe. And if it weren't for other kind homeless

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Speaker 4: Now police have beefed up security here a law the strand.

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Speaker 4: As for the suspect, he was booked on a multiple charges,

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Speaker 4: including attempted murder. You schedule to appear in court tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, there's so much in there, some of which I

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Speaker 2: didn't expect. I had read the report, but there was

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Speaker 2: other items in there. So the woman one of the

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Speaker 2: victims who saved the first victim because she was in

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Speaker 2: Then Jenna was the second woman being attacked, and she

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Speaker 2: after a third woman and tried to drown her. Now

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Speaker 2: And wouldn't you know it, he is on the Megan's

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Speaker 2: his offense it was assault with intent to commit a

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Speaker 2: specified sex offense. So what that is is not specified,

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Speaker 2: but it was enough, I guess to get him on

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Speaker 2: the on the Megan's Law website and there's a photo

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Speaker 2: of him, shirtless, bug eyed, crazy person and what was it?

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Speaker 2: There was an officer there. Yeah, Santa Monica police officer says,

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Speaker 2: what two thirds of the people that they have to

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Speaker 2: arrest are are homeless people? Why, somebody explained to me,

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Speaker 2: why why does the Santa Monica mayor and city council

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Speaker 2: allow this to go on? I asked this yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: really fascinated that they get up every morning and they

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Speaker 2: are dealing with homeless people, that there is a lot

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Speaker 2: of trouble on the streets of Santa Monica and at

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Speaker 2: the beaches, and why Why don't.

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Speaker 1: They stop it?

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Speaker 2: Why I don't I don't, I really don't get it.

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Speaker 2: The mayor is Phil Brock, and you should go to

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Speaker 2: the website. It's smgov dot net and it's the Santa

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Speaker 2: Monica City Council. Even if you're not in Santa Monica.

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Speaker 2: This really is fascinating. The other council people are the

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Speaker 2: Mayor pro tem, Lena Negrete and Gleam Davis. And she's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be a piece of where Christine Para Jesse's

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Speaker 2: wick Caroline Torres, And they collectively have a city overrun

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Speaker 2: with violent criminal vagrants, drugged up staggering around. And here's

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Speaker 2: Could have killed any of them or all of them.

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Speaker 2: He's quite aggressive. He had he had tackled the first one,

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Speaker 2: he punched the second one, and almost bitter ear off

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Speaker 2: third one. He tried to drown. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he was on. And he's a sex offender and is

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his what year his conviction was, well,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He got a risk assessment that twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two is the Gascon era. So did Gascon let

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Speaker 2: this guy out after a sex offense. And now he's

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Speaker 2: roaming the Santa Monica Beach taking on three women at once,

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Speaker 2: and I have the risk assessment here and his score

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Speaker 2: looked this up to in the commercial break. What does

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Speaker 2: that mean? A three score for risk? Say, I don't

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: But he went after three three women on the beach,

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Speaker 2: all in one shot. And I can't find any reaction

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Speaker 2: from anybody in government to say that they're gonna authorize

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Speaker 2: putting them away. I mean, I am personally interested in

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Speaker 2: this because my wife and I we walk and bike

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Speaker 2: ride on the beach and on that bike path through

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Speaker 2: I recognized that whole stretch. It's just north of sainta

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Speaker 2: Monica Pier. So how does a guy like Jiwan Garnett,

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Speaker 2: Jiwan Dwayne Garnett, how's he left to be loose all

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Speaker 2: over the beach?

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Speaker 1: I mean, these these.

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Speaker 2: Council members, they're getting this mayor, they're getting paid every day,

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Speaker 2: police are getting paid every day.

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Speaker 1: This is exactly the kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: Who ought to be locked up certainly ought to be

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Speaker 2: me see, I'll find the risk assessment scale.

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously a three I would assume would be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was too low. The risk assessment should

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Speaker 6: Well, what I'm saying is if it's a three and

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Speaker 6: that's considered low, somebody totally screwed up because he allegedly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it should.

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Speaker 2: Have been high, Right, it should have It should have

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Speaker 2: been yeah, because I mean, how can they do a

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Speaker 2: risk assessment if these people are taking crazy drugs, Right,

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Speaker 2: you get meth, you become very aggressive and violent. But

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Speaker 2: this risk assessment helps decide whether they're going to be

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Speaker 2: released or not from any kind of incarceration they're involved in. Right,

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Speaker 2: We are going through the risk assessment of a particular

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Speaker 2: sex offender named Jowan Duwayne Garnett, thirty one years old,

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Speaker 2: and he was the guy who attacked three different women

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Speaker 2: just north of Santa Monica Pier, just south of the

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Speaker 2: California Incline on the beach in Santa Monica, tried to

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Speaker 2: drown one woman, was beating up a second. Then a

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Speaker 1: And this is one guy.

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Speaker 2: And I knew for sure this guy had a record,

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Speaker 2: and he does, but we only have a little piece

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Speaker 2: of it. And that's he's on the Megan's Law website

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Speaker 2: assault with intent to commit a specified sex offense. Now again,

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Speaker 2: why is he loose on the beach, homeless? Most likely

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Speaker 2: on drugs, sex offender? And he's he went after three

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Speaker 1: So on the Megan's Low website.

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Speaker 2: And they don't give you a lot of information, but

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Speaker 2: they have something called the static ninety nine are risk

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Speaker 1: You're gonna love this.

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Speaker 2: Based on statistics, their age, how many years since they

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Speaker 2: were last convicted, they are given a risk assessment number.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem to be based on their individual capability.

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Speaker 2: It's just been based on an overall group analysis. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that makes any sense, and if it doesn't,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it does make any sense going through

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Speaker 2: this for example, Well, you can have a risk assessment

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Speaker 2: score of minus three, three or minus two and you

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Speaker 2: average risk. If you're at one average risk, two three

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Speaker 2: average risk, I don't know why they separate the categories.

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Speaker 2: Then four and five is above average. Then six through

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Speaker 2: tel twelve is well above average.

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Speaker 6: Well, what's just a plain an all three?

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Speaker 2: A three is average risk? Now what is the average risk? Well,

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Speaker 2: eight percent chance that a sex offender based on his

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Speaker 2: background eight percent chance that he commits another.

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Speaker 6: Sex crime in eight.

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Speaker 2: Percent chance, that's what they think. If they put you

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Speaker 2: at level three, they say you have an eight percent chance.

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Speaker 2: That means out of twelve guys that they put at

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Speaker 2: level three, one of the twelve is going to do

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Speaker 2: There, Like, if you have a score of ten, you

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Speaker 1: Who does this?

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Speaker 2: Now what is not explained here is when he was

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 1: What do you got so yesterday? Is Ray Lopez, by

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you were asking Santa Monica, Phil Brock, the mayor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to.

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Speaker 6: Borrow my stun gun next time you go?

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Speaker 1: Well, see, that's what it's gotten to, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I did get my wife some mace to spray,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've gone to that place in Santa Monica,

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Speaker 2: Why do I have to have my head on a swivel.

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Speaker 2: We're always doing We're always doing risk assessment. We're going

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Speaker 2: this guy's passed out.

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Speaker 1: He looks half dead. He's not going to come after us.

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Speaker 6: Not to mention how expensive it is to live in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the root problem is the people who live

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is great.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am sixty.

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Speaker 1: Man, there's just stuff going on all over. We can't

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Richie Greenberg next hour, just

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Speaker 2: He's going to tell us everything he knows about the

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Speaker 2: The crime is so high and so crazy, and what

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Speaker 2: After three o'clock Rick Caruso, who should be mayor, but

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Speaker 2: not enough people were convinced they actually thought Karen bast

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Speaker 2: was going to do something about homelessness. Well, if you

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Speaker 2: thought that, you're very wrong. However, he is endorsing Nathan

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Speaker 2: Hackman for District Attorney. Hawkman up against George Gascone, and

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Speaker 2: I would love to find out if Gascone had anything

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Speaker 2: to do with that. I don't know how you're a

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Speaker 2: And all I can tell you is, you go to

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Karen bass is a failure at managing this

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, and like the Santa Monica beach story, I'm

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Speaker 1: But you have eleven firefighters are hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday they went over to the pulvit of Basin Recreation

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Speaker 2: start exploding and one guy's one firefighter's ear was torn

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Speaker 2: Ten others had minor injuries. Well, two stories involving the homeless,

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Speaker 2: of the explosion, how can you have homeless people with

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Speaker 1: What did they have there?

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Speaker 6: And you know, the union representing the firefighters there, The

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Speaker 2: They should be I heard we're trying to get the

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Speaker 1: Let me see if I can.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that sounds crazy, so maybe I misheard that,

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Speaker 2: a bureaucrat. The only person I see speaking out on

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Speaker 2: this it's Tracy Park Again. She's a councilwoman on the

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Speaker 2: West Side, my councilwoman, and she said, the crisis of misguided,

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Speaker 2: That's why my motions to regulate our v encampments, enhance

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Speaker 2: fire severity zones are so important. All right, let's go

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Speaker 2: through all the violation that Karen pass allowed that encampment

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Speaker 2: to be at the Supulvita Basin. First of all, it's

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Speaker 2: I know, I've been there too. It is fire season

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Speaker 1: And this happens every year.

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Speaker 2: So why do you let a homeless encampment and they

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Speaker 2: start fires to cook? They have propane tanks. In fact,

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Speaker 2: when the fire department showed up and this is an encina,

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Speaker 2: they thought, oh, it must be a propane tank and

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. I don't know if they use a grill

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Speaker 2: with lighter fluid. They must use something. Off of these encampments.

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Speaker 2: They steal electricity. There's a ball field there. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Again, try to get information, very difficult. But what was

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Speaker 2: let's say once a day, and he sees these people

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Speaker 2: and your grenades, your bombs.

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Speaker 1: I think at the bomb squad.

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Speaker 6: I have the president of the United Firefighters of La

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Speaker 6: Freddy Escobar. Do you want to hear?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guy. He's the guy we're trying to

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Speaker 1: He's the guy. So here here is what he has

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Speaker 9: In twenty twenty three, the LAFD responded to more than

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Speaker 9: sixty six thousand emergency incidents related to the homeless population,

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Speaker 9: an average of one hundred and eighty two calls per day.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: All right, how does anybody who lifts and pay taxes

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Speaker 2: in La County? You have sixty six thousand homeless calls

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Speaker 2: he's with the city, he's not in the county. Sixty

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Speaker 2: and eighty to a day.

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Speaker 1: The hell is going on now? You've got bombs.

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Speaker 2: Exploding in the faces of a fireman who are trying

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Speaker 2: to put out a fire at a park where kids

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Speaker 2: are supposed to be playing. I I mean, he's complete anarchy.

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Speaker 2: Last I heard, she was, you know, traveling homeless conference.

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Speaker 2: So is the mayor of Santa font Monica homeless conference? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: Marabas is gonna speak at a mayor's conference in a

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Speaker 2: homelessness round tip.

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Speaker 1: That's all they do instead.

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Speaker 2: Of going over to the camp and say, guys, party's over,

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Speaker 2: out of here, you're going you want mental health treatment?

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Speaker 1: They should be.

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Speaker 2: Forced into mental health treatment. They should be forced into

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Speaker 2: drug treatment, forced into alcohol treatment, forced forced forced against

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Speaker 2: their will, or go to jail. Or we are putting

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Speaker 2: you on the homeless bus and we are driving you

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Speaker 2: to the desert. Take you out the slab city by

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Speaker 2: the Salton Sea. It's the only way, all right. Coming

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Speaker 2: up after two o'clock, Richie Greenberg about the insanity up

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Speaker 2: up in Oakland, the mayor getting recalled and getting rated

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Speaker 2: by the FBI. After three o'clock, Rick Caruso, and he's

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Speaker 2: endorsing Nathan Hackman to replace George Gascon, so we hit

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Speaker 2: the war has many fronts to it.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 7: six forty.

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Speaker 2: Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app coming up after two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Richie Greenberg. And he is the founder of the chess

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Speaker 2: Abodeine recall up in San Francisco and that was successful.

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Speaker 2: So he knows Bay Area politics and Bay Area recalls.

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Speaker 2: And right now the Oakland mayor Shang Thal, and she

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Speaker 2: is presiding over an absolute disaster of a city between

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Speaker 2: all the violence that's going on, people getting murdered, and

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Speaker 2: lots of robberies, lots of theft going on, and a

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Speaker 2: corruption scandal. The FBI raided her house, something to do

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Speaker 2: with a recycling waste recycling company laundering money. She actually

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Speaker 2: went crazy yesterday at a press conference, started screaming for

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Speaker 2: ten minutes, and after that her lawyer and one of

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Speaker 2: her top eight quick So I don't know they elected

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Speaker 2: a crazy person up in Oakland, but that seems to

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Speaker 2: be common. Now, pardon me a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: detour here. We were just talking about this incredible story

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Speaker 2: which is not getting even ten percent of the attention

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Speaker 2: it should. That you had eleven firemen in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: get injured, one of them very seriously. His ear got

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Speaker 2: torn off when when some things exploded while they were

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Speaker 2: going through a homeless encampment responding to a fired ensino

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Speaker 2: at the Subpulvita.

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Speaker 1: Basin, which is a park area.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking for information because the union leader is

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Speaker 2: saying that LA Fire Department gets sixty six thousand calls

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Speaker 2: a year emergency calls from homeless people or about homeless people.

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Speaker 2: That's one hundred and eighty two a day. And that

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Speaker 2: number stuck in my head this morning. One hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty two.

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Speaker 1: What day?

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Speaker 2: So I'm gone on Google trying to find other stories

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Speaker 2: connected to this, and I found something, and this is

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Speaker 2: class This is actually from March. I missed it, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's part of the point here. The LA

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Speaker 2: Fire Department wanted in March to end a pilot program

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Speaker 2: that sends mental health workers to non emergency calls. This

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Speaker 2: was a whole run since the George Floyd stuff. Right,

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Speaker 2: no more police, no more fire, send mental health people,

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Speaker 2: send ambassadors.

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Speaker 1: They're unarmed.

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Speaker 2: And apparently after just a few months in March, they

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Speaker 2: filed a report that said forget this idea, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: The idea was a therapeutic van would be sent a

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Speaker 2: van with a psychiatric response team instead of fire department

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Speaker 2: paramedics to handle nine to one one calls involving patients

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Speaker 2: who were having non violent mental health crisis. They said

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Speaker 2: it sound in theory, but not in practice because the

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Speaker 2: workers lacked the training and were unqualified to perform medical

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Speaker 2: assessments or provide emergency medical services. They were from the

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Speaker 2: Department of Medical Department of Mental Health, so they sent

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Speaker 2: mental health professionals into these vans to show up when

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Speaker 2: a crazy person is freaking out, except they didn't know

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Speaker 2: what to do. They didn't have the training, they couldn't

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Speaker 2: do any assessments, so there was no benefit to the

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Speaker 2: fire department. Last year, fewer than four patients a day

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Speaker 2: met the narrow criteria established for the therapy van to

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Speaker 2: transport the crazy person out if you follow that, but

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Speaker 2: only four times a day did the patient meet the

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Speaker 2: criteria to be taken away by the therapy van, and

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Speaker 2: it cost four million dollars. They were to operate twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours a day, seven days a week, and this

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Speaker 2: is the thing. These things end up failing. And they

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Speaker 2: hardly get any coverage, and only three months later, do

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Speaker 2: you know, we find out what's going on here. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if this story maybe was published on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe maybe I was off. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But you hear about these pilot programs and these new

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Speaker 2: cool ideas. We're gonna have the ambassadors, We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: therapists show up, mental health professionals, not police.

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Speaker 1: Not Now, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: You have to respect the the uh intelligence and expertise

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Speaker 2: and training of a police officer or a fireman or

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Speaker 2: a firefighter. You have to uh. They are not people

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Speaker 2: who work at desks. They don't fill out assessment forms.

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Speaker 2: They have to react and take control of a situation

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Speaker 2: very quickly, in real time. There's no replacing that. There's

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Speaker 2: no ambassadors with shiny vests to fix this. What you

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Speaker 2: ought to do is stop allowing homeless people, by the

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands to create mayhem. How could you have

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Speaker 2: a city where sixty six thousand times the phone rings

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Speaker 2: and a crazy person is having a problem, mentally ill,

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Speaker 2: drug addict sixty six thousand This is what our fire

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Speaker 2: department does all day. And you know they show up

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Speaker 2: at a real fire and andsino and what do you know,

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Speaker 2: homeless encampment, more crazy people and there's bombs going off.

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Speaker 2: And the next day it's as if it ever happened.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing in this city with this media. The

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Speaker 2: next day it's as if it never happened. Oh, eleven

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Speaker 2: firefighters got hurt, homeless people had bombs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all the way.

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Speaker 2: Santa Monica Beach, three women got seriously attacked by a

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Speaker 2: crazy homeless person. No, it didn't have Oh, a sex

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Speaker 2: offender on Megan's Lawless, that was yesterday, it didn't happen. Well,

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Speaker 2: we're going to keep after these two stories because they happened.

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Speaker 2: And today alone, there's one hundred and eighty two other

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Speaker 2: stories being called into the fire department, just in La City,

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Speaker 2: not the county, not Orange County or anywhere else, just

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Speaker 2: in the city. This is one hundred and eighty two

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Speaker 2: of these stories. Are we come back. Another insane asylum

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Speaker 2: is Oakland, and they got an Oakland mayor, sheng Tho,

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Speaker 2: who is under recall and also had her house rated

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Speaker 2: by the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Not a good week.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk with Richie Greenberg. He was the founder

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Speaker 2: of the Chessabodeine recall, and he knows what's going on

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Deborah Mark Live CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You

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Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six

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Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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