WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Elliott Cleared For Week 1 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:12.719 This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:22.200 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys As Now your 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:29.720 hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.800 and welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys, of course, 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.919 joined today by my lovely co host, and we will 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.440 be talking obviously about Ezekiel Elliott, of course, and what 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.720 you need to know from all of that because it 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.520 is very confusing. We'll also be getting into a little 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:52.080 bit of Coach Garrett's response expected people to play this 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.440 weekend as what we saw out at practice, just a 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.840 little portion we saw and then getting into of course 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.480 Cowboys offense for Giants defense. Now with the puzzle piece 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.240 of ezek Elliott back in place. So, how's everyone doing today? 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.039 Doing well? Ready to roll, let's go, ready to roll, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.440 break getting a season, let's get some energy in here, 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.320 ready to break down an a potent energy. How's everybody doing? Like? WHOA, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.800 We're doing good? Good, real good? All right? Coach? Is 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.319 that what you said today? When Coach Garrett went up 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.040 to the podium, I said, really well, really well, well, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:28.040 of course, the NFL arbitrator Harold Henderson has upheld the 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.280 six game suspension for Zekil Elliott. There was a lot of, 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.440 you know, speculation about when that decision was going to 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.440 come down did last night and what they also did, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.280 which a lot of people weren't too surprised about, especially 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.920 I know Dave Hellman had mentioned this was possibility you 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.720 did as well, Brian. They did allow him to be 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.400 eligible to play this week, and it's because of the 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.920 time when Henderson's decision came down during a game week. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.600 I think that's fair saying the competitive advantage that he 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.000 will have now. And now the hearing for his injunction 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.760 was yesterday, but the ruling isn't expected until at least 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.520 five pm by Friday. I know, Rob you've mentioned could 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.320 be a little bit earlier than that. But if he 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.400 is granted this injunction, his six game suspension could be 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.320 held off or what we would kind of see it 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.079 would be going out through the season. So, Brian, you know, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.960 I asked you a little bit before the show of 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.920 something that you would like to discuss, and you said 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.400 the question that I'd like you to ask now to 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.280 our panel. Yeah, the question, what question did I want 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.720 to ask? So slyly thanks now or yeah, no, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.480 that's the two questions. I think which way we're going 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.720 to go there? Yeah, I was going to ask though, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.240 you just go ahead and pay now, I mean with 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.120 the with the h and accept it, accept it, or 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.120 do you wait till next season and have to go 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.440 through all this potentially again? Well I'm not accepting it. Here. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.480 Here's my question. Are you thinking about that question from 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.440 the team's perspective or from Zeke's perspective. I'm thinking of 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.880 the question from the team's perspective. What I'm really worried 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.280 about as this thing. If he continues to fight it, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.880 then it becomes a Mickey hates this word, but it 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.360 becomes a distraction later in the season. If you have 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.960 to take time away from practices and stuff like that 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.320 preparation for a game, then maybe have to go appear 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.240 in courts for hearings and things like that. You and 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.320 I disagree on this because I think this has to 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.880 be Zeke's decision. This has to be This is about 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.840 his reputation, sure life, and he owes money. Yeah, his 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.400 potential seemed to be taking a hard line on this. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.600 All of a sudden, Spagnol excuse me just a second. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.880 He's being a little snippy right now. I would go 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.840 to the map. You didn't seem like that before, Oh, 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.760 yes I did. I said it was what was option 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.600 for yesterday. It was that it was the scenario four 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.800 was that it wouldn't be to be upheld, would be 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.560 upheld and you would go to court, right, and that's 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 what would have the opportunity to play throughout the season. Well, 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.800 it didn't bother Tom Brady and he's the quarterback. Yeah, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.400 but Tom Brady ended up it cost him for games 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.480 the following year, so it was gonna cost him for 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.800 you sound very selfish later. That's what I'm asking though. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:05.960 Do you go ahead and you go ahead and get 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:07.560 it out of the way now so you don't have 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.720 to carry that into I don't. I don't think it's 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.000 selfish to want to protect your name. I don't think 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.080 that's selfish in any way. The team has to support 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.480 you on that if you truly claim that you're innocent 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.320 in this. Is he gonna win this case, well that 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.440 remains to be seen. He'll he'll win the injunction, but 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.520 he ultimately will not win the case. And then this 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.520 time next year, maybe somebody else will be sitting in 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.600 my chair. But but they but maybe you're gonna have 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:38.839 to do favorable judge, favorable judge in what way like 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.799 in Texas. Yeah, he's gonna get a favorable judge. Judge 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.120 is gonna grant him this injunction. Get well? And then 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.160 after that, where's the lawsuit gonna be held? Is it 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400 gonna be held in New York? It right down the 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.280 street from the NFL offices. Sure, guys go to lunch 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.000 with the judge. Sure? Or is it gonna be held here? See? 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.880 I think to me, to me, it's you talked about 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.920 clearing your name. I get that, I understand that. I'm 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.680 also thinking about the team here though, too. I'm thinking 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.839 about the team having to deal with this going forward, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.480 deal with it. But also if there's an injunction, it's 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.760 the Brady thing, and I hate to compare the two. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.280 We're gonna be the same thing is going to be 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.000 talked about this year? Well, I know, and it's yeah, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.240 there's gonna be a lot of stuff draft. It's gonna 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.919 affect multiple different things. Now, Elliot's because you'll get that 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.800 taken care of in the offer. But it's the way 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.840 the Brady. Think it's a window. If there is an injunction, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.320 there is a window now for him to help this 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.800 team go win a Super Bowl this year. Like you 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.520 take your shot, like Tom Brady from a team perspect Yeah, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:41.800 that worked out for them. Now it was the quarterback. Yeah, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.520 so if there was going to be a distraction, the 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.160 quarterback would be the most distracted. You're saying there's not 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.000 going to be a distraction by this whole thing if 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.040 he if he in fact, it's sixteen games where he 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.880 can play all sixteen, Yeah, because nothing's nothing probably will 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.640 happen during the season. You don't think, you know, when 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.400 I a little bit hot cloud over, I think he's 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:05.160 oblivious to everything, everything that might pitch just be in life. Yes, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.200 I mean I don't think. I'm not sure what say 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.679 at all. I don't. Yeah, it's hard to sure what bothers. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.800 It's hard to say this doesn't affect him. We're not 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.559 in his head. Well, and this is a pretty serious matter. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.760 But if you watch the way he practices, the way 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.120 he went through training camp, you didn't see any difference 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.960 in him. I did. I did, for sure. I noticed 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.520 that his energy was a lot lower, that he was 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.040 not as engaging me down hands. Obviously he was being 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.799 taken off the field immediately last training camp, it seemed 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.000 like he was out there. It was so exciting. Obviously, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.440 ez A gilliott I saw him engaging with the fans 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.080 after practice on the field, when everybody would run on 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.960 the field, all the people that got passes, he sat 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.280 there and took pictures with it. I agree with. Right 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.680 after the suspension came down, he seemed less like animated 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.000 on the field. Now, maybe eventually you kind of get 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.400 back in, you get around your teammates and your rally. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.960 But did he practice everybody's human He did practice? How 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.480 often practiced well, Mickey, he practiced well, well, we didn't 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.320 have that opportunity, But just in passing how often? How 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.080 often did you talk to him? A few times? Yeah, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.880 and he was definitely a lot lower energy. Maybe he 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.680 didn't want to talk to you, that's rude. Well, no, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.920 I'm saying he didn't. He didn't talk to anybody, But 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.560 he engaged with the people after practice. He took pictures, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.840 he signed autographs, He practiced, Well, does he do the 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.200 locker room shenanigans that he used to do? Does he 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.160 come out there and we haven't been in the locker 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.480 room well that much, have we? Well, we were seen 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 him at training camp with the players. There's no locker 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.800 room practice, there's no locker room in training camp for 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.760 us to see anything. I just think that's really unfair 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.920 to say that he's not phazed by anything, because I've 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.880 heard him talk about personal issues before that are not 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.560 needed to be shared here, and he is effective. It's 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.080 affecting his family because you see what is his parents 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.920 tweeting out and making comments. I mean, it's a drain 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.360 on everybody that's close to him. So I don't know 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.520 how you could say it's not affecting him. And the 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.720 fact that he wants to fight this to me says Okay, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.680 this is affecting my life. When I say that, I 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.280 don't think it's affecting his ability to play football. Well 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.160 maybe not. We'll see, right, we'll find out, yeah Sunday, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.120 all right. Well. His representatives also released a statement on 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.960 the decision and said we are extremely disappointed with mister 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:25.840 Henderson's inability to navigate through league politics and follow the evidence. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.200 And most importantly, this is what it got a lot 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.160 of people talking his conscious. Mister Elliott is looking forward 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.360 to having his day in federal court where the playing 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.440 field will be level and the NFL will have to 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:42.400 answer to its unfair and unjust practices. I don't think 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.000 any of this is surprising because now we talked about 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.240 the appeal. We talked about the basis for the appeal 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.320 is to do exactly what Henderson did. Did the league 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:57.000 follow their rules in the policy, did they follow the 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.400 process you're supposed to go through to hear the appeal? 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.640 And and that's all he was judging his His His 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.840 charge was not to judge guilty or not guilty. His 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.080 charge was not to judge the evidence. His charge was 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.240 to see if the process went the way it was 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.720 supposed to do, and it did. So now you go 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.720 to a higher judge and say, okay, can you judge guilt? 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.640 And what we weren't allowed to do to prove this. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.880 But it'll still come back to the bottom line of 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.240 the NFL. PA gave the NFL the right to pick 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.480 the commissioner to be judge and jury Article forty six, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:43.440 where this is collective, this argain to lose. So if 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:48.280 if if a judge that hears this doesn't look at 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.240 it that way, he's gonna look at it black and white. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.800 Then yeah, they ain't got a chance. Yeah. See that's 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.880 what I'm saying, Do you do? You go ahead, and 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.839 you're right though, he's gonna try and clear his name 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.800 and should. But if you think about it from a 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:08.000 team aspect, that's why I asked better to pay now 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.920 or pay later? Well, it worked out for the Patriots, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.679 didn't It is this team, the Patriots. Though I didn't 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.480 say I didn't, you just did. I didn't say from 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.680 it just did not from an athletic ability, It didn't 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.840 it worked out from the Patriots season, did it? I 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.439 think there was a lot of distractions with which quarterbacks 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.120 were going to be playing. Sure it did. What teams 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.400 you know they were going to be facing those first four? 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.000 And then what did they do? They have a great 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.480 coach and a great well, you don't know. You don't know. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.440 They have a running back. You always don't know. I'm 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.880 just saying you don't know. I'm just curious why your 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.640 answer is always that what your answers always we don't 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.880 know what the Cowboys are capable of doing, but capable 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.800 of doing well? There do you think they're capable of 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.160 winning a lot of games without him, I would not 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.800 rather I think it'll be harder. Yeah, me too, But 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.280 that's I think, why do you want to play? I 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.160 would fight if if it was Dak Prescott, I would 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.839 really fight it because I know my quarterback. And you're 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.959 absolutely right the reason the Patriots win is because of 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.560 a quarterback. But at the same time, you said you're 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.680 worried about distractions over a year longer. Yeah I am, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.400 I am, but because I feel like though that the guy, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.000 he can't help you win games. I agree with that, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.280 But if he's playing, he can't see the thing about 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.840 it is, though to me, I would try and put 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.040 this into review mirror as quickly as I Well, and 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.760 that's fair, and I understand what you're saying. You don't 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.600 want distractions around your team. But when you've got the 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.440 owner of the team, they're backing him and saying, look, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.240 we don't see evidence here. He's got an opportunity. Oh. 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.280 I was with the owner all the way. Okay, that's 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.400 an Oxnard when we all had when this first hit, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.440 I think Mickey and myself were like, well, wait a minute, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.720 the owner is saying this, right, you know the owners 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.840 saying that you know he he believes this is this 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.600 is not this is unfounded. Bran, would you say that 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.640 this is more of a distraction to the organization rather 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.839 than the team? Maybe is that more fair to say? 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.000 And I say, I think that with the experience of 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.880 Greg Hardy, it's about the team. It's about the team. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.680 They shouldn't care about the organization, care about the team. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.280 That's That's what I'm saying to me. If if it 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.320 if it turns into okay, that's what I'm saying, pay now, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.280 just go ahead and do whatever it is. Pay now, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.959 get this behind you, and then find a way to 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.280 win football games. Now. It's gonna be difficult, like Mickey said, 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.520 but pay But you know, I don't want to go 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.200 through another summer of this hanging on this team's head. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.600 That's I understand your point there. But if you want 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.400 to be selfish and say, okay, let's let's play him 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.160 now and try and see what happens, well, Mickey said 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.160 that it's going to be just handled in the off season. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.400 It'll it'll play out in the off season. Brady's played 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.800 out in the off season exactly. But but to me, okay, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.760 what if he carries it on further? But if there's 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.839 only so far you can go because there's only one 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.280 more shot here. If if he gets a restraining order, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.600 then they've got to hear the lawsuits and he's got 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.240 to prove. He's got to prove right. That's it. So 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.800 to me, I don't want I don't want to sacrifice. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.079 I'm trying to say, do this now in order to 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.599 not have to do things in the future. That's what 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.280 that's all I'm saying. Yesterday you brought up a couple 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.679 of former well Kobe, Yeah, guys that have had stuff 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.439 attached to them allegedly, and maybe as their career went 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.240 on it kind of faded away. But I still think 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.840 to some degree that's still probably follows him a little bit, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.160 you know. And Mickey mentioned money, I mean from in 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.800 terms of endorsement opportunities and stuff. You have this attached 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.000 to you, allegedly, it's gonna hurt you most likely. I 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.160 think he does. He has to think about himself to 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.640 some degree because it's his life, not just his career. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.800 And I think that did he make it about himself 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.400 when he put himself in the situations? I mean, well, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.640 he hadn't even had a practice here, Hattie, did any 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.720 of you read Coach garrett statements when he did the 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.240 mmb QB article this past summer at training camp. I 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.640 didn't read, yeah, a little bit what he discussed about 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.559 endorsements and how these types of incidents do affect players 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.960 and that he wished they knew that more. If a 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.920 brand is coming to Steph Curry verse, you know what's 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.480 a bad guy's name. I'm trying to think, you know, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.480 a guy that's off the field, off the off the field, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.680 off the court issues, They're probably gonna go with Steph Curry. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.600 And Coach Garret was pretty blank in saying that there's 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.920 less risk, and I think that's why. I think that's 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.360 why the league. I think her point is, though to me, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.640 if I'm saying, you can speak for it, because I 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.520 think you get what I'm saying. I think the league is. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.000 I think the league is fighting this because of sponsors. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.880 That's why I think the league is fighting so hard. Absolutely, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.720 And I think what she's trying to say is, and 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.000 pardon me if I'm wrong here, but the sponsors will 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.360 side with people who they feel like represent their brands, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.800 even though deep down there might be something else wrong 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.120 that we don't know about. Yet keep that under route. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.840 Yeah exactly. But I think the league is fighting this 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.800 with every bit of their will because of sponsors. Okay, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.680 so it's the money. It's totally the money here. When 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.360 any of us were twenty years old, were any of 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.880 us thinking about our brand? It wasn't the same age. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.240 It was not the same age. It might have been 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.440 for me, but it wasn't for you because there wasn't 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.320 social media. There was eight but said that they should 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.640 think about that. We were thinking about what you think about? 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.240 What I'm saying, well, well, when you're twenty years old, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:25.840 you don't think what were you thinking about when you 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.960 became a newspaperman? Your image, my next story? Yeah, but 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.800 your image. I didn't even know if I had an image. No, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.520 but that breast guys is only a year younger than 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.400 this guy, and he has openly stated that he thinks 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.560 about his image. He is a private person who cares 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.680 about what is reception is. He's twenty four years old. 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.560 He turned that on. Okay, so some guys are a 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.760 lot more mature at twenty years old than other guys. Well, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.640 some what clubs are white. What I'm saying is that 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.840 you're not really making the fair point of saying that 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.600 Zeke just doesn't care about his image because he does. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.720 Because Brian's right, he didn't care about his image. He 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.920 did things when he was twenty years old that he 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.360 wasn't thinking about his image. But you're always thinking about 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.120 your image, No, you're not. To him, it carries a 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.560 lot of his money. He didn't. He didn't realize that 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.240 when he was nineteen and twenty years old. He did 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.800 when he was posing for Nike and doing different brand 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.040 ambassador stuff last summer after he got drafted. He did 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.080 this stuff when he was in college. Did he do 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.160 the other stuff that was mentioned when he was in college? Yes? 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.160 What what do you mean the whole of Saint Patrick's 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.800 day was when he was in college. Please Saint Patrick's 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.040 day well tots his image point. I mean, this is 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.040 what's discussed in that Rookie symposium every year. You have 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.680 to be cognizant of who you are, your a public figure, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.400 and so there is some responsibility. There was some of 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.479 this stuff away. He comes down to some of these accusations. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.840 He's saying, look, it's false, and I believe he has 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.560 a right to pursue that. Did you look at the 0:16:53.760 --> 0:17:00.520 NFL releases. After this, the official roster cut came out. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:05.320 There were thirty four suspensions to start the season. Thirty four. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.920 That's a lot, right, a ton, So it's not just him, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.560 there's a lot of other guys out there. Well, ban 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.520 focus on him. Let's you're acting like, okay, he should 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.840 have known that, well, thirty four other guys should have no, no, no, no, 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.440 let's focus on Let's focus on him though. And my 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.960 question the initial question, so how boys, So yeah, you 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.200 don't and and we'll put this to bed hopefully, so 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.240 you don't feel like you feel like he should fight 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.360 this the whole way and you know whether whether whether 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.679 and and worry about two thousand and eighteen with two 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.960 thousand absolutely okay, all right, I don't I don't agree 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.560 with that, but that's that's fine. That's but that's okay 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.240 that my question got answered. Hey, I think that's fair. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.720 I think we gave a lot of information here in 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.360 the first segments. So we're gonna go ahead and take 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:54.480 our first break already. S WBC Mortgage Studio. You guys 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.040 can join us when we come back. 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