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Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone,

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Speaker 1: and welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys, of course,

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Speaker 1: joined today by my lovely co host, and we will

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Speaker 1: be talking obviously about Ezekiel Elliott, of course, and what

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Speaker 1: you need to know from all of that because it

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Speaker 1: is very confusing. We'll also be getting into a little

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Speaker 1: bit of Coach Garrett's response expected people to play this

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Speaker 1: weekend as what we saw out at practice, just a

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Speaker 1: little portion we saw and then getting into of course

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense for Giants defense. Now with the puzzle piece

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Speaker 1: of ezek Elliott back in place. So, how's everyone doing today?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? Ready to roll, let's go, ready to roll,

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Speaker 1: break getting a season, let's get some energy in here,

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Speaker 1: ready to break down an a potent energy. How's everybody doing? Like? WHOA,

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Speaker 1: We're doing good? Good, real good? All right? Coach? Is

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Speaker 1: that what you said today? When Coach Garrett went up

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Speaker 1: to the podium, I said, really well, really well, well,

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Speaker 1: of course, the NFL arbitrator Harold Henderson has upheld the

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Speaker 1: six game suspension for Zekil Elliott. There was a lot of,

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Speaker 1: you know, speculation about when that decision was going to

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Speaker 1: which a lot of people weren't too surprised about, especially

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Speaker 1: I know Dave Hellman had mentioned this was possibility you

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Speaker 1: did as well, Brian. They did allow him to be

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Speaker 1: eligible to play this week, and it's because of the

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Speaker 1: time when Henderson's decision came down during a game week.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair saying the competitive advantage that he

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Speaker 1: will have now. And now the hearing for his injunction

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Speaker 1: was yesterday, but the ruling isn't expected until at least

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Speaker 1: five pm by Friday. I know, Rob you've mentioned could

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Speaker 1: be a little bit earlier than that. But if he

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Speaker 1: is granted this injunction, his six game suspension could be

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Speaker 1: held off or what we would kind of see it

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Speaker 1: would be going out through the season. So, Brian, you know,

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Speaker 1: I asked you a little bit before the show of

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Speaker 1: our panel. Yeah, the question, what question did I want

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Speaker 1: to ask? So slyly thanks now or yeah, no, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the two questions. I think which way we're going

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Speaker 1: to go there? Yeah, I was going to ask though,

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Speaker 1: you just go ahead and pay now, I mean with

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Speaker 1: do you wait till next season and have to go

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Speaker 1: through all this potentially again? Well I'm not accepting it. Here.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question. Are you thinking about that question from

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Speaker 1: the team's perspective or from Zeke's perspective. I'm thinking of

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Speaker 1: the question from the team's perspective. What I'm really worried

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Speaker 1: about as this thing. If he continues to fight it,

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Speaker 1: then it becomes a Mickey hates this word, but it

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Speaker 1: becomes a distraction later in the season. If you have

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Speaker 1: to take time away from practices and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: preparation for a game, then maybe have to go appear

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Speaker 1: in courts for hearings and things like that. You and

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Speaker 1: I disagree on this because I think this has to

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Speaker 1: be Zeke's decision. This has to be This is about

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Speaker 1: his reputation, sure life, and he owes money. Yeah, his

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Speaker 1: potential seemed to be taking a hard line on this.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Spagnol excuse me just a second.

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Speaker 1: He's being a little snippy right now. I would go

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Speaker 1: to the map. You didn't seem like that before, Oh,

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Speaker 1: yes I did. I said it was what was option

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Speaker 1: upheld and you would go to court, right, and that's

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Speaker 1: what would have the opportunity to play throughout the season. Well,

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Speaker 1: it didn't bother Tom Brady and he's the quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the following year, so it was gonna cost him for

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Speaker 1: you sound very selfish later. That's what I'm asking though.

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Speaker 1: remains to be seen. He'll he'll win the injunction, but

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Speaker 1: is gonna grant him this injunction. Get well? And then

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Speaker 1: the Brady thing, and I hate to compare the two.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be the same thing is going to be

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Speaker 1: talked about this year? Well, I know, and it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: affect multiple different things. Now, Elliot's because you'll get that

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Speaker 1: that worked out for them. Now it was the quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so if there was going to be a distraction, the

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Speaker 1: in his head. Well, and this is a pretty serious matter.

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Speaker 1: But did he practice everybody's human He did practice? How

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Speaker 1: often practiced well, Mickey, he practiced well, well, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have that opportunity, But just in passing how often? How

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Speaker 1: often did you talk to him? A few times? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he was definitely a lot lower energy. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: he engaged with the people after practice. He took pictures,

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Speaker 1: he signed autographs, He practiced, Well, does he do the

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Speaker 1: locker room shenanigans that he used to do? Does he

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Speaker 1: And most importantly, this is what it got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people talking his conscious. Mister Elliott is looking forward

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Speaker 1: And what we weren't allowed to do to prove this.

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Speaker 1: the commissioner to be judge and jury Article forty six,

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Speaker 1: where this is collective, this argain to lose. So if

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Speaker 1: it worked out from the Patriots season, did it? I

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Speaker 1: think there was a lot of distractions with which quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: were going to be playing. Sure it did. What teams

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Speaker 1: you know they were going to be facing those first four?

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Speaker 1: winning a lot of games without him, I would not

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Speaker 1: rather I think it'll be harder. Yeah, me too, But

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Speaker 1: They're one of the best teams in the league dealing

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Speaker 1: with that. So one of your strengths is your ability

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Speaker 1: to run the football. The Giants can counter you with

428
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: the way they play with their front seven, then walking

429
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: that safety down in the box, landing Collins makes a

430
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Speaker 1: big difference as well. I think this could be the

431
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Speaker 1: best front seven, best defense they face until maybe Seattle

432
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Speaker 1: later in the year. This is a really good I

433
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Speaker 1: mean they know it too, because when you look at

434
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Speaker 1: what happened last year, it's the front four. As you mentioned,

435
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Speaker 1: you got Jpp who's healthier, probably in better frame of

436
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Speaker 1: mind this year than he was last year. Olivia Vernon

437
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: was a great challenge for Tyrn Smith last year. It's

438
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Speaker 1: a tough challenge for this group. And when you look

439
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: at the two games they lost, it wasn't just the

440
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Speaker 1: front seven, it was the corners covering and there weren't

441
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Speaker 1: a lot of open receivers, right Dak Press got the

442
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Speaker 1: throw too in those two games, especially the one up

443
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Speaker 1: in New York. So it's a challenge for the Cowboys,

444
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Speaker 1: no question. And on the unofficial depth chart released by

445
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, of course it has Chad's Greens starting

446
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Speaker 1: at left guard. We know that, Jason Garrett said today

447
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: in his press conference. You know he'll be splitting reps

448
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: with Jonathan Cooper first team reps. How does that affect

449
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: this line going into this weekend with that uncertainty still present.

450
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: Brian hit on it. I mean, there is a continuity

451
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: issue there that they're used to not having. I think

452
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Speaker 1: they know, they just haven't said yeah, yeah, but they

453
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Speaker 1: want to make sure Chad's Green's healthy, that he can

454
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Speaker 1: get through a practice point at ankle. If he can

455
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Speaker 1: do that, he's starting, that's that's fine. But they haven't

456
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Speaker 1: had that same group working together the entire there's been

457
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Speaker 1: that shuffling, you know. Yeah, but two years ago last

458
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Speaker 1: year Ran Larry started middle of the season right right,

459
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Speaker 1: so there was no continuity there. Yeah, but Learry had

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Speaker 1: played with that group before. Yeah, Collins had replaced him,

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Speaker 1: so that that was I feel like though there's a

462
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Speaker 1: lot of it's more uncertainty, you know, and then and

463
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Speaker 1: you know, and you if you if you've got Frederick

464
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Speaker 1: and Smith in a room and probably said, hey, confidence level,

465
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Speaker 1: you know, in front of us, they're gonna tell us

466
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Speaker 1: absolutely confident, no problem, confident that these guys could play.

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Speaker 1: Deep down inside, I'm sure there's some concern with there.

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Speaker 1: I'm served there's some concern when they you know, with

469
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Speaker 1: these especially with the inside players that the Giants have,

470
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Speaker 1: especially with the active linebackers, you had better be on

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Speaker 1: the screws when you're doing this stuff. When you're playing

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Speaker 1: this front, because you're gonna have to pass guys. You're

473
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Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to get blitzing linebackers.

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Speaker 1: It's an attacking front. You better be sure that every

475
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Speaker 1: move you make is the right move. And so I

476
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Speaker 1: think that's where you know, like Mickey says, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they should me personally, I think they should

478
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Speaker 1: start Jonathan Cooper. I just feel like that he's a

479
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Speaker 1: at guard. He's a better fit at guard right now

480
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Speaker 1: than what Chaz Green is. Nothing gains Chads Green because

481
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Speaker 1: I think Chad's Green's the fifth best offensive lineman, but

482
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's if he's the best guard

483
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Speaker 1: of the two. We'll see how that all plays out.

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Speaker 1: The other spot, Tae. The matchup I'm looking forward to

485
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Speaker 1: seeing is Lyle Collinsolutely. We're just going to get into that.

486
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Speaker 1: Everyone is excited to finally see Lyle Collins in a

487
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Speaker 1: regular season game playing the right tackle position. You've mentioned

488
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Speaker 1: it before that he's come in and you know he

489
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Speaker 1: was the starter his rookie year, but now at right tackle,

490
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Speaker 1: especially going to against their defensive ends at JP. You

491
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: talk about bend and edge rush. I mean, that's that's

492
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Speaker 1: a guy with speed and quickness. And Lyle's biggest strength

493
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Speaker 1: is power. You know, It's it's about on the edge,

494
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Speaker 1: it's about footwork and being able to use that technique.

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Speaker 1: And so you talk about week one, I know, but

496
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite matchups to watch in the preseason

497
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Speaker 1: was definitely Lyle Collins and Khalil Mack. Yeah, talk about

498
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Speaker 1: some practice there. Khalil Mack one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League and he did a terrific job.

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Speaker 1: And that's penalties aside. Are we worried that Doug Free

501
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Speaker 1: is not here anymore? I would say I would still

502
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Speaker 1: I want to I'm interested to see because Doug Free

503
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Speaker 1: knew how to play against Jason Pierre Paul because Dug

504
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Speaker 1: Free had seen him when he was a left tackle,

505
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Speaker 1: when JPP was a right defensive end. Now he's a

506
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: left defensive end because of Olivier Vernon. But you get

507
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: the same bit of pass rush and the problems that

508
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: we've documented throughout training camp, and we saw it in

509
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Speaker 1: the Oakland game a little bit with the hands of

510
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Speaker 1: the face. The missing of the hands JPP will not

511
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Speaker 1: give him any hitting surface. JPP knows how to get small,

512
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Speaker 1: he knows how to turn himself, he knows how to rush.

513
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: If Lyle Collins has problems in this game, it will

514
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Speaker 1: be because j JPP will able to get on him.

515
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Speaker 1: And if he's missing with his hands, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a huge issue right there. So keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on that how that goes. Because Jason Pierre Paul, even

518
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Speaker 1: though he's a right defensive end, he plays with a

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Speaker 1: left defensive end. Or excuse me, even though he's a

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Speaker 1: left defensive end, he plays the right defensive end mentality.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will be looking at

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Speaker 1: the Giants wide receivers this week, especially with Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: Junior's status still uncertain. Of course, that will probably be

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Speaker 1: until Friday when the official game statuses are reported. But

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00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys receivers in this game I think will play

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Speaker 1: a large role. Cole Beasley in his first game against

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Speaker 1: the Giants the season opener and last season had two

528
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: big drops, one being an almost touchdown. This year, I think,

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Speaker 1: you know they've been open about his comfort with DAK.

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00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I really am looking at Cole Beasley versus DRMC this game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's exactly ahead. Rob No, I think so too.

532
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: And to me, he Cole has become the safety blanket

533
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Speaker 1: for Dak what we've seen, because it's DAK friendly. It's

534
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: a guy that works in space, which really well works

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and given the pressure that

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Speaker 1: you might see from the Giants in this game, that

537
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: to me is is a nice option for Dak work

538
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. Actually, if Genorris Jenkins

539
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: is just covering days all day. Yeah. I went back

540
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: and watched the game last year that was played in

541
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Speaker 1: December at the Meadowlands there, and the one thing Cole

542
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Beasley was the one receiver that was able to get open,

543
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: able to find space. And Roger Rogers KRIMARTI though, is

544
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: he's long, he's agile, and it's surprisingly he handles quickness

545
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: very very well. But Beasley found ways to get open

546
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Speaker 1: and Prescott just couldn't get him the ball early enough.

547
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: There were a couple of times though, where they had

548
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: to make some loose plays. They flipped him the ball

549
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: and then he was able to run for some you know,

550
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: for some yardage, get a first down. Those kinds of things.

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00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: I think you need to get Cole Beasley more involved

552
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: in this football game, especially if the if the Giants

553
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: the way that they play, I mean, Apple and you

554
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: talk about Jenkins are two guys that can cover on

555
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: the outside. They can blank it. They can blank it

556
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: receivers Elie Apple though kind of still dealing with the

557
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: ankle sprain. Yeah, still dealing with some issues there. But

558
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: I you know, when you talk about Opening Day to everybody, everybody,

559
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: everybody finds a way to get their best game going forward.

560
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like though, where they're gonna have

561
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: to win is they're gonna have to win with Beasley

562
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: against Rogers KRIMARTI I think that's where they're gonna have

563
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Speaker 1: to win because Collins can take Jason Witten out of

564
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: this game if he if he wants to landon Collins.

565
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Can I believe he can cover Witten and take him

566
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Speaker 1: out of this game. We'll see, But I think that

567
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: the game plan is though, cover on the outside, and

568
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: like they did last year they won Opening Day, keep

569
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: feeding the ball to Witton and Beasley and all that.

570
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: What happens you really don't score any points. And that

571
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: affected the way they played a lot of people want

572
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: to point out how Ezek Elliott showed up in the

573
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Speaker 1: first game of the season last year against the Giants,

574
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Speaker 1: but Mickey pointed out the other day about his yardage

575
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Speaker 1: in the December game. Mickey, do you think he'll continue

576
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: where he left off? Yeah, absolutely, unless their depth chart

577
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: allows him to play twelve guys on the field. Yeah,

578
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: they should get flagged for too many guys on the

579
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: depth chart. Got twelve starters down, well they Heather Nickel, Yeah,

580
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: everybody put they didn't they didn't list it. They listened

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00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. To me though, that this is where

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00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had some success. Going back and watching that game,

583
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: running the ball, it's gonna be hats on hats. It

584
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: sounds really simplistic as way it is, but if you

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00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: get hats on hats, you know that that's what they

586
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: had a lot of times where we talked about with

587
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Speaker 1: Pierre Paul. We talked about Olivier Vernon. These guys. If

588
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: you do not finish blocks with these guys, they will tackle.

589
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: They will tackle you for a three yard game. They

590
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: will not allow you to get a six seven yard game.

591
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: So you have to find a way to get hat

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00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: on hat and then allow Ezekiel Elliott like he did

593
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: in this game, to be able to pick, choose, slide

594
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: and then get up the field the way he was.

595
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: They just weren't able to sustain that enough in that

596
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: football game. They had problems with the linebackers, they had

597
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: problems with the front seven, with the defensive line as well,

598
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: blocking those guys. It's so big to have Zeke in

599
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: this game because, as you said, it's a grinded out game,

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Speaker 1: and he's the kind of guy that can get you

601
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: three yards where it should be one yard and be

602
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: able to help you in those short down and distant

603
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: situations like it's I can't talk about it. I can't

604
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: emphasize how critical it is that he's playing in this game, well,

605
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: for this matchup to Rob's point, though, you know, if

606
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: you remember, Garrett went forward and I've totally forgot about this,

607
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: like on his own forty yard line, thirty eight yard line,

608
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: he went forward on fourth and one, and the reason

609
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: he went for it is because of Ezekiel Elliott. But

610
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: then you know they miss a block. I mean, Travis

611
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: Frederick misses his block and Ezekiel manages to beat to

612
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: beat the tackler and then get the first down. Anybody

613
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: else sets a minus two probably minus three, and now

614
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the balls going the other way. So yeah, you need

615
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: him in this football game, grinding it out, getting the

616
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: tough yards, busting or run or two in order to

617
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of keep the chains. Movie. The Giants played really

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: really well in these and the two games. I thought

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Speaker 1: on first down, that's where Dallas makes their living, getting

620
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: first down, staying ahead of the chains, and then the

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Speaker 1: second down, then they're able to convert, make it manageable

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Speaker 1: down a distance. The Giants do a great job of

623
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Speaker 1: keeping you out of those those those first down situations

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00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: of getting yards. All right, we have a caller on

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Speaker 1: the line. What is your question? Do we still have

626
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Speaker 1: them Kent? Hello? We don't Hello, Kent, you still with us?

627
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we do not have a caller here? Do we

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Speaker 1: have Kent with us? Yeah? Maybe got tired of our

629
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Speaker 1: talk the opening segment. Hey, I get it. I thought

630
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I saw him walk by, but oh, maybe he's not there.

631
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: He just put it on automatic pile, automatic pilot. There

632
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Speaker 1: you go. Hey, Mickey said he could do this him

633
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: do it well? Absolutely absolutely, well, I guess you know.

634
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: We can get into the fact that it is going

635
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: to be the first day of reports out there. Rob,

636
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: you were out at practice, did you see anything that

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Speaker 1: stood out to you that should be noted in the

638
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: short fifteen minutes you're there. Yeah, I didn't see anybody missing,

639
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: did you, Mick? I mean all hands on deck. I

640
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: saw nine was not out there right well fifty nine Yeah,

641
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna miss some time. But the guys that

642
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: are iffy saw right. Pretty much everybody in pads while

643
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: we were out there. Like you said, it was pretty

644
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: pretty close or short time period out there. It sounded

645
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: like Cheeto was going to do something. Sound like Jordan

646
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Lewis would do something today. We'll see how much he

647
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: won't do as much as a woozy though, I bet no,

648
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: But I mean it's encouraging that he's at least in pads.

649
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford was in pads. He said he's feeling good,

650
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: expects to do something today. So Woods was out there,

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Durant was out there, Tyrn Smith was out there, all

652
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: the guys. Zeke was out there. Guys that have had

653
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: some things that they've had to manage Mayoa, Paia, we're

654
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: out there. So that's a good sign. Defensively as well.

655
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Only guy wasn't doing anything was Kadeem Edwards on the

656
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, he was on the court. Yeah, that's

657
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's hard when you get a

658
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: practice squad tackle that's over there on the courts. I

659
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: mean that just shows you what they think about the guy.

660
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Because you do need all those guys to practice. I

661
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: mean you really really do. That's one of the reason

662
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: why they're on the practice squads because other guys don't

663
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: have to take reps, especially a full padded practice. Another

664
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: guy that's been questionable, and he's a rookie that people

665
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: are excited to see in regular season action, Ryan Switzer.

666
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: You know we probably will not I'm not assuming we'll

667
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: be seeing him in the punt returns immediately. Will probably

668
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: be cool like it was last year. Do you guys agree,

669
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: if he's active, I think you have to put him

670
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: out there immediately. Yeah. Absolutely. If he's you know, he's

671
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: shown it up at practice. Mickey and I did the

672
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: practice the other day up in the TV area and

673
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: we were watching him catch punts and run routes and

674
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. To me, he looks like he's ready

675
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: to play football now, you know, they I think they

676
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: need eat him. I don't nothing against Cole Beasley or

677
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Lucky Why Hit or any of those guys that were

678
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: returning punts. You need to make that punt return unit

679
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: a weapon. You need to find. You need to find

680
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: a way not to average seven yards or return. You

681
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: need to average somewhere between ten eleven twelve yards a return.

682
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Find a way to move the ball up the field,

683
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: make it a little bit, you know, if you're gonna

684
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: get some three and out stops, and the Cowboys had

685
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: done a pretty good job of that with defense, if

686
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: they start to get on a little bit of a

687
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: role and then that's what the Giants did last year.

688
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: I believe it's eight of the fifteen drives that they

689
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: had in the game, they were eight or three and out.

690
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: They're one of the worst teams in the league when

691
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: it comes to three and out. If you get three

692
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: and out stops, punish them for the three and out stop.

693
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Change the field, flip it. Beasley's a guy that you know,

694
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: can catch, secure all that, But I think when you

695
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: talk about Switzer, he's the guy that could catch it

696
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and make something happen. The Giants signed away a guy

697
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: that did that for Dallas a couple years ago. Dwayne

698
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Dwayne Harris did that for this team, and yet to

699
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: Brian's point, that's why he's drafted, that's why he's here

700
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. Yeah, is to help flip flip

701
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: field position for sure. Lucky Whitehead they always used him

702
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: in the jet sweeps and that was pretty popular package,

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: especially against the Giants. Will Switzer fill that role as well. Oh,

704
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot of people getting

705
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: that jet sweep. That's good. But what we saw so far,

706
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: I mean Dez has done it, Williams has done it.

707
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure Beasley Switzer. Yeah, yeah, I don't think they

708
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: just did it because yeah, of Lucky Whitehead. To me,

709
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, to me, it's gonna be more about screens.

710
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna find ways to get these guys

711
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: the ball in their hands on quick play. You know,

712
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: a guy like Williams, loud, guy like Dez, Butler guys

713
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: to be out in front block you know, the jet

714
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: sweep to get the ball in the corner. But if

715
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: you could get the ball to the outside and allow

716
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: those guys to attack on the perimeter with blockers in front,

717
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: I see that as being more of an option than

718
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: I just noticed that more. Nick Mickey's right though we've

719
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: seen it occasionally in the in the scrimmage and we'll

720
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: not scrimmage the practices, and then also in some of

721
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: the preseason stuff. But I think that the screen package

722
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: is going to be more of something that they're going

723
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: to try and hang their hat on then say run

724
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: the jet sweeps. Well, I'll tell you what though, on

725
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: those punt returns, if those guys on the hold up

726
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: guys on the outside don't they don't block job, Yeah,

727
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: then it don't matter if I'm back there return in punts. Well,

728
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: you want somebody that has the ability to make the

729
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: first guy miss, right, I understand that, and then those

730
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: guys got to do it. And they haven't had two

731
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: guys out there to have done a good job for

732
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: three or four years. Well it's it's the starting cornerbacks

733
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: that are usually those guys. So if they're taking a

734
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: playoff to rest and all that, then shame on them.

735
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: And that's on Rich Beisacci to get guys out there.

736
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: Then in fact, you we'll be willing to block on

737
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: the edge. You got to do a better job and

738
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: give the punt returners an offer fair shot. Yeah, Rob,

739
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing some Twitter questions. I know you spoke with

740
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Zach Martin yesterday. People are asking will his contract extension

741
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: be done this week? But I think you have the

742
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: answer for them. Yeah. He confirmed the news that they're

743
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: gonna table the talks until after the season, and I

744
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: guess that was an unofficial dead line that they were

745
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of working with. I think he wanted the opportunity

746
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: to if it's not done, I'm gonna focus on football.

747
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: He does have two years left on his contract. I

748
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: think maybe there's some confusion there. I mean, they picked

749
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: up the fifth year, which gives them another full offseason

750
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: to get something done, and he said there's no change

751
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: in my feelings about one to be here long term.

752
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's any concern here. I think

753
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: it's maybe a little disappointing. I think he said that,

754
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, they've been able to get Tyrann Smith done,

755
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick Dunne in preseason in the past. But I

756
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question he's gonna be a cowboy

757
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of years to come. Sack Martin should

758
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520
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759
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
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760
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna That's what it's gonna happen. He's gonna get

761
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna play once again. He'll be all pro, all

762
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: everything again. And the Cowboys have made it and you

763
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: know what will happen. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones will say,

764
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: you know what, young man, you're worth every penny we're

765
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna pay you. So yeah, I feel like that that

766
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: you'll see a situation snack going anywhere. He'll be here.

767
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: He'll get done. Yeah, you know, and even they can say, oh,

768
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: we're not talking during the season, but the agent can talk. Sure.

769
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna make it. Just don't mess

770
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: with I do too. That's a good point to put

771
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: in there for him. Yeah. If if they're gonna wait

772
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,520
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773
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I opened this show. Pay now. Would you rather get

774
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: paid now or paid later? Well? I fear injury. But

775
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, knock on wood, he's one of those guys

776
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: that tend other than you know that scare that we

777
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,160
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778
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,000
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779
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200
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780
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I just kind of think that's the only thing that

781
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920
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782
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,919
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783
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: a year ahead of time. Yeah, he'll get twelve, Okay, twelve,

784
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: then yeah he'll get im. He'll get He'll get twelve

785
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,600
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786
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787
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788
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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,600
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00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,239
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Speaker 1: We are back here for the last segment of Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We have to end a little early today for a

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Speaker 1: very special meeting here, but Rob, before we do that,

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Speaker 1: we can get to your poll. Yes, I thought this

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Speaker 1: might be a good one since we are a couple

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Speaker 1: of days away from the season opener, talking about breakout

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Speaker 1: players based on what we saw in training camp in preseason.

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Speaker 1: Which of these four do you think could break out

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys in twenty seventeen. I've got four for you,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, Lyle Collins, MALIEK. Collins, or Jalen Smith. Anybody

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Speaker 1: got to vote. I voted. I voted for Malie Collins.

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Speaker 1: I like the safest one right there. Yeah, yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: worthy one. Brian Well, I'll tell you what. I thought

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Speaker 1: Malie Collins was going to be a Pro Bowl player,

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Speaker 1: and I still kind of think that. But when you

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Speaker 1: talk about breakout guy, I'll go with Bryce Butler and

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I think that Bryce Butler has

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Speaker 1: done a better job of finishing and think of it's

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Speaker 1: been finishing. He didn't finish that. He had a chance

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Speaker 1: to get a touchdown that Giants game last year and

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Speaker 1: didn't finish, right. But I feel like the guy it

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Speaker 1: started in OTA's it's it's carried into training camp. I

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Speaker 1: think there's a comfort level with him. I think he's

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Speaker 1: comfortable with his situation now and he's playing for something.

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Speaker 1: He's on a one year deal. I think he feels like,

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Speaker 1: you know, if not, here's somebody somewhere else. And so

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Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, we've seen guys like Laurent Robinson

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Speaker 1: go on and get money, you know, play well and

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Speaker 1: get money and all that, and you know, and let's

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Speaker 1: say that Terrence Williams even got paid a little bit

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Speaker 1: by this team. So I feel like though that if

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Speaker 1: you talk about breakout guy, for the opportunities that he gets,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy that at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, we're going to go. That's him. That's him.

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Speaker 1: I had a very interesting conversation with Bryce Butler that

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Speaker 1: kind of alludes to what you're talking about some of

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Speaker 1: the drops and finishing. When he was at the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, it was okay when you dropped

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Speaker 1: a few because it was such a short memory that

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Speaker 1: you had to have there, because of such a passing

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Speaker 1: offense that you knew you were going to be able

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Speaker 1: to redeem yourself quickly, right, And you know, that was

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Speaker 1: kind of his mindset there, like, Okay, let that one go.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get another one. Derek Carr is gonna feed

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Speaker 1: you the ball here, and especially behind the receivers that

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Speaker 1: he is, he's not getting as many passes as he

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Speaker 1: once was. He said, he's had to adjust his mentality

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Speaker 1: going into games four of those drops and how to

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Speaker 1: adjust to that and let it go in a sense

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Speaker 1: like that might be my only opportunity in one game.

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Speaker 1: Well to your point, Tay, which is well made, even

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Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Des brian Is admitted he will never be

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones because Julio Jones the way and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons do it have good balance, but the way

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Speaker 1: that Julio Jones gets targets. Des Bryant's like, we're a

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Speaker 1: run first team, and he goes, I mean, I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that as long as we're winning football games. So

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Speaker 1: who'd I miss? Well, two weeks ago, it'd have been

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Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins. Yes, I guess that doesn't qualify, you know,

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Speaker 1: what should? I mean? My Anthony Hitchins was a good

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Speaker 1: was a good time. First inclination is MALIEK. Collins right right?

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Speaker 1: I thought he broke out last year. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where I was going with that. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard to I mean, he had five sacks as

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Speaker 1: a rookie that played fourteen games. So I think in

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year, that's a breakout. It's a breakout. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a breakout right there. I don't think. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure Bryce Butler will get enough opportunities to break out,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Malie conn Well. The fan

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Speaker 1: base agrees MALIEK. Collins fifty five percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith got twenty six percent of the vote, followed

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Speaker 1: by the other two. I'm gonna write about Malik later

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Speaker 1: in the week on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He's what's

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Speaker 1: impressive to me about him is he he talks about

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Speaker 1: understanding the standard of playing three technique for Rod Marinelli

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Speaker 1: and the guys that have played for Rod before the

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Speaker 1: Warren SAPs and those guys, and trying to live up

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Speaker 1: to that. He watches Marinelli will show him clips of

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Speaker 1: those guys and how those guys played the position, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's impressive to me. Well, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to live up to that. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 1: he's fitting right into the Marinelli mold of just kind

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Speaker 1: of staying under the radar. Yes, fans know about his

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Speaker 1: five sacks, and hopefully they're well educated that he will

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Speaker 1: be back and strong this year. Of course, he had

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Speaker 1: some different little knicks in training camp, But I think

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Speaker 1: marion Elli is very happy with the kind of guy

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Speaker 1: he is as far as the way he carries himself,

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Speaker 1: not flashy, like what you said. I'm just gonna do

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Speaker 1: my job here. Well, hopefully Tay and guys hopefully he

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Speaker 1: gets help from Stephen Paia and then also with Brian Price.

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Speaker 1: You know, hopefully Brian Price is one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that comes through and as they use him in the rotation,

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Speaker 1: whoever plays that under tackle or excuse that nose tackle

942
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Speaker 1: or the one technique as a big effect on how

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Speaker 1: you play. And I felt like that if you look

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Speaker 1: last year at Terrell McClain, he was able to help

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Speaker 1: Collins in his ability to make some good to make

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Speaker 1: some good plays, some good rushes. So how that got

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Speaker 1: next to him plays I think will dictate a lot

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Speaker 1: how he's able to be productive this year. And I

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Speaker 1: have another write in Canada, sure to Marcus Lawrence. Marcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: that's a good one. Even though you don't think he

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Speaker 1: had a breakout rookie season, Well he didn't have a

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Speaker 1: sack last year. Well he did lead the team in

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Speaker 1: sacks a couple of years ago. Yeah, but but now

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Speaker 1: he's coming off a couple back injuries. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody's forgotten about him. He's kind of the forgotten guy.

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Speaker 1: What they need is a breakout from one of those

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Speaker 1: defensive ends, uh Taco Benson, DeMarcus Lawrence, demontre or David

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Speaker 1: Irving when they get back. Yeah, those guys need to

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00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: break out. That's what they need. Yeah, Ben, you're make

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Speaker 1: a good point. Benson Mayhan needs to play, Benson Maywan December,

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Speaker 1: those that the four games you know, to play. He

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Speaker 1: needs stats. The guy that needs to be a sack

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Speaker 1: of game guy if he can, you know, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: him sitting down those when Marinelli and the coaches to

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Speaker 1: have to say, well, we're gonna play somebody else over you,

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that will that'll be a reminder that, you know what,

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Speaker 1: they they're not afraid to put me down for a

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Speaker 1: little bit if it means getting you know, get me

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Speaker 1: going again. He may be the sack leader, but they'll

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Speaker 1: they won't hesitate to rotate Taco in there. No, not

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Speaker 1: at all, not at all, And everyone will be watching

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Speaker 1: Taco and we will be back here tomorrow and the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studio. I'm so sorry we have to cut

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Speaker 1: today's show short, but we'll have full ones for you

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Speaker 1: on Thursday and Friday. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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