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Speaker 1: with us. Final thoughts with you here, And you know,

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Speaker 1: if the league's ready for this. Yeah, it's interesting with

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Speaker 1: And then obviously things changed a bit. There was a dip.

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Speaker 1: why not? They are ready They've got the squad and

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Speaker 1: few years. You're gonna have to pay some guys, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go through the salary cap like everybody

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Speaker 1: else does in the NFL, and make some good decisions,

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Speaker 1: and you still have to hit doubles and triples in

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Speaker 1: the draft. But I just look at the pieces here

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Speaker 1: and think to myself that Jacksonville's got a chance to

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Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. Sounds pretty good to me,

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Speaker 1: I must say. I And let's hope it starts for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars of the Chargers today of the wild Card round.

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Speaker 1: Always appreciated. I am looking forward to seeing you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too, JP, All the best,