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Speaker 2: Make you feel? I mean, I am medicated.

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Speaker 3: I've been on antidepressants for several years now, and it

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Speaker 3: is not okay in my eyes. I feel like that

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Speaker 1: An employer cannot say that a person that works for

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Speaker 1: Why you bite in the hand that feeds you. I'm

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that she would be able to, which

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Speaker 3: So that's ending that you say that just because I

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. This is what I'm okay. So

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Speaker 1: this is why it feels you're abused and you're told

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Speaker 3: It was promised to me that I would have a

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Speaker 3: I didn't give away anything that the reunion was going

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Speaker 3: So it got out that I was at the Meadows

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Speaker 3: And she was in for that duration of time, so

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Speaker 3: But then there was conversations of oh, Rackulla isn't getting treatment.

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Speaker 3: It will you dispel these rumors that she's at a

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Speaker 3: They wanted to keep this narrative going, like it was

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Speaker 1: So did anyone from Bravo reach out to you post

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's culpable if you pay then you're yes, Yeah, interesting. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So there has been all this going around people are

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Speaker 1: and thank you everyone. But have has Bravo been acting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a few days ago, somebody reached out from

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Speaker 3: it's a little too late. All of the death threats

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Speaker 2: So it's a little fishy.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. What's also interesting is that we watched what we've

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Speaker 2: Was taken without my consent.

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Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I think they're doing their

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Speaker 2: Best history with me.

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Speaker 3: No, because I refuse to not respect myself on that

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Speaker 1: Do, you turn this into something positive. Yeah, in considering

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 3: I asked for equal pay with Tom and Ariana and

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Speaker 3: Right, But it's impossible to not know how well the

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Speaker 3: I have a no contact policy with every single cast member.

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Speaker 3: Tom has emailed me twice. Lala wanted me back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Does that feel confusing when everyone said we thought she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Actually it makes complete sense because they have ulterior motives.

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Speaker 3: They don't care about my well being. They care about

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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be a very interesting show and

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Speaker 1: So this is the new you. I mean, you have

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Speaker 3: I really am impassioned by learning about myself and the

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Speaker 1: Nice okay.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it would be a great way to

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Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, this is an area

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Speaker 3: I would love to have a healthy relationship, but right

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Speaker 3: now I am nurturing my houseplant and you know, still

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Speaker 1: That example, you want to break the chain and you

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Speaker 1: want to have a good relationship with yourself?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: First, yeah, So where will you be living? You're you're

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Speaker 1: at We're in Arizona now. I flew to come see you,

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Speaker 1: done that. I really was feeling for you and not

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Speaker 1: because I know that it was hard for you to

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Speaker 1: get cold feed. You know, you came in very strong

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Speaker 1: know if you'd be fragile or a mess or so

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Speaker 1: where will you be going from Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be traveling around. I'm not headed back

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Speaker 3: check out different states in different areas.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice.

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Speaker 3: So it's unwritten at this point, but I'm excited to start.

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Speaker 2: This new chapter.

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Speaker 1: You have a new journey literal and figurative. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you want to come visit me in the Hamptons, I'm

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Speaker 1: right near the beach. So okay. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you for trusting me. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit for really staying quiet.

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Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do that because you want to

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Speaker 1: get your thought out, your word at you want to

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Speaker 1: correct everything that's wrong, and you took months to really

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do, sit still, and you did

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Speaker 1: sit still, and now you got you know, is there

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Speaker 1: anything we didn't cover? Were you able to get your

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Speaker 3: I think that whatever we didn't get too, which there's

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Speaker 3: so much that goes on behind the scenes and what

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Speaker 3: happens internally, even that, save it for.

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Speaker 2: Your podcast exactly we'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Save it for your pocket okay, well, thank you so much.