1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian in my eyes that you know, if they 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: can't resolve it after all this time, it sounds like 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: it's a car to stay away from. Yeah, you're right. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: It seems like they should be able to fix it. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: And it comes time for a change. I gotta let Jack. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I can a broken down calm if I can make 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: it that a broken down the car Doctor. The fan 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: comes on. It sounds like an airplane. I've never had 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: that before. So shot is the water pumps spinning the 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: wrong way because the belts on backwards. Welcome to the 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the garage to orders are open, but I'm here to 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: take your call at eight five and now running. We 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: had a charge of battery the other day in the shop, 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: and the choices and how complicated battery charging has become 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: of just it's it's just beyond belief. It used to 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: be a simple hook up, push the button and go, 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: but it's not like that anymore. And I'm gonna talk 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: about that this hour, because I think it's something you 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: need to be aware of. If you're having to jump 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: start or charge a battery, um, you've got to be aware. 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: It's it's nothing. Nothing is simple, simple one out the 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: window about ten years ago, and it's just getting worse 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: every week or more complicated every week. But let me 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: open the garage doors right away, because I know the 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: list is long and I want to get some things 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: going here. Let's go over and talk to Stevie in 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: New York with a twenty Subaru accent, and let's see 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: what's going on here, Stevie? Or is that a cent? 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: How do they say that that's an ascent? Right? I'm 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: reading that wrong, Steve. It's an ascent. So thank you, 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. How can I help you tonight? Oh? Well, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I recently purchased a travel trailer and the dealer wanted 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: to sell me a weight distributing hitch. My SUPERU Ascent 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: has the dealer installed towing uh you know, hitch on 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: the back, and so early the night before I was 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: picking it up, we found online someone claiming don't use 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: the weight distributing hitch, you'll wreck your car. So we 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: researched it and actually the manual shows that don't use 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: the weight distributing hitch. So um, we took it off 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the travel trailer dealer's list, much to their chagrin. But 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: I guess my question is would there be an advantage 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: to using such a thing with a univody car? Going 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: to further complicate things, one of their commercials, I believe, 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: actually shows a weight distributing hitch using you know, heavy 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: travel trailer. One of the things I've learned in fort 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: or five years of fixing cars in life in general, 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: is whenever somebody says they, or someone said, who's the 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: they or someone? What what authority or position in the 53 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: in the subject matter do they have? So who was 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: it that said don't use a way distributing hitch? So 55 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: was it was on a forum for the type of 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: vehicle I have, and that referenced the manual, and I 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: found that reference in my own manual. They said don't 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: use it. I went to the local dealer where we 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: are getting the travel trailer and they kind of shrugged 60 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: and said, well, you should follow the manual. They didn't 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: really have any ex expertise like you. Then I'm gonna say, 62 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: don't use it for whatever reason. Subaru has a reason 63 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: they're they're saying that, whether it has something to do 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: with and my guess is it has something to do 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: with the onboard electronics and the vehicle strategy and operation 66 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: and the effect of towing a trailer from behind. You know, 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: years ago, it used to be when you were trying 68 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: to set up a vehicle to tow, it was a 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: feel thing, all right, in the sense of, you know, 70 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: and I've I've driven suburbans with different style hitches and 71 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: different support systems that some of them you didn't know 72 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: the trailer was behind you, and other ones it felt 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: like you were dragging the house, the car, and the 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: three cars with you along with the trailer because it 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: handled so badly on the road. You know, you've got 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to realize that, and I'm sure you do, but for 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: everyone else, you know, when you add a trailer, you've 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: now made the car you know, five ft ten ft, 79 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: fift ft twenty ft longer, depending upon the you know, 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: size of the trailer and what you're doing, and how 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: that handles in a cross wind, how that handles on 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: the three way at seventy five or seventy or whatever. 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: The speed limit is how that handles crossing a bridge 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: will vary greatly depending upon the hitch set up. That 85 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: being said, it used to be that you would you 86 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: kind of tried two or three different things, and then 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: after you you towed in that weight clay or sized 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: vehicle or size trailer, you sort of knew what to 89 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: put on the vehicle. But now it's a whole different 90 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: game because you know, there's believe it or not, there's 91 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: there's so much software in the car today. The self 92 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: steering system, the ADAS system that you know that the 93 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: steering assists, the the the the collision avoidance, the way 94 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: that the electronics tie into the back lights and the 95 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: trailer lights. All of that affects how we connect trailers 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: to cars. So the fact that the dealers selling it 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: to you doesn't make it correct. I applaud you for 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: finding that. I would call Subaru Direct and say, why 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: does it say this in the manual? What is it 100 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: that you're trying to prevent from happening before I make 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: this alleged mistake, Because somebody's got to have a technical 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: reason if they've got it in the manual, some lawyers 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: signed off on it, and somebody said, you've got to 104 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: put this in here. Here's the reason why. That makes sense. 105 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: It makes sense, that's good advice. So probably have to 106 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: go you're a liar before I ever get an answer. Yeah, 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's now now. The fact that your 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: your car is already set up for TOE means it's 109 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: got the trans cooler, you know, because it has to 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: have the factory trans cooler, the optional trans cooler in it, 111 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and the hitches already installed. Yeah. Yeah, when we purchased 112 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: the model, we made that a specification. Uh at it 113 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: told the capacity that we're looking for, you know, and 114 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: you know you've got to try it. Listen, you know, 115 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: somebody give me the reason if the if the answer 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: is because it's gonna wear out the tires three faster 117 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: than without, but it rides better with, you know what, 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: I'd wear the tires out and toil the trailer in comfort. 119 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: If it's you're gonna smoke the trans because of or 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna damage the rear suspension by doing so, well, 121 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: then that's that's a different conversation. But I would I 122 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: would ask for a legitimate answer from Subaru and not 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: try and reinvent the wheel. I wouldn't listen to what 124 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the dealer has to say. Lord knows there's enough, and 125 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: not just car dealers. There is enough of all kinds 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: of dealers out there, everything from lawnmowers to automobiles to chainsaws, 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: that they do things different than the factory. I want 128 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to know the reason why. All right, sir, Okay, thank you, 129 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You take good care. Helen in Long Island, Oh, 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: seven Honda Civic. How can I help? I bought a 131 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: two thousand. In two thirteen, I bought a two thousand 132 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and seven Honda Civic. I've always driven Honda's since nine, 133 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: so that's forty years only Honda's. They were phenomenal cars, 134 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: and I never had a problem other than every one 135 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: of them had an electrical problem. Okay, fine, So I 136 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: buy this two thou and seven Honda Civic. Then I 137 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: get a recall letter. Never before did I get a 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: reach called letter from Honda, and that was on the paint. 139 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: But the letter from Honda Motor Company said they wouldn't 140 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: allow any lost time for work or rental vehicle. And 141 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have the money for a rental, so I 142 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: thought I'd dodge a bullet. I didn't end up dodging 143 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: a bullet, and my neighbor saw the paint going, and 144 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have the money to rent a car, so 145 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: then I get another recail better on the engine. I'm 146 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: sure you're familiar with a bunch of go ahead. Your 147 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: question to me, helen, um, how can I get now? 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: My radio is going? You keep saying, you keep commenting, 149 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and I trust you that Hondas are not um are 150 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily the best car to get. And I'm thinking, 151 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: do I now buy this new radio and get my 152 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: car painted or just go with a Ford or a 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: super Roup? How many miles on the car? The mileage 154 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: on the car itself, but on the engine is about okay, 155 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: So there's a hundred thousand miles on the car, there's 156 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: twenty thousand miles on the engine. Have you priced out 157 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: getting the car painted? Yeah? Somebody said four. And then 158 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: somebody said, and I don't care as long as the 159 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: car looks good. I don't care if theyd So you 160 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: know the paint is going to be a choice of preference. 161 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Be scared of the four thousand sounds right to me. 162 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, It's not cheap. It's not cheap to paint 163 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the car today, not a car that's going to look 164 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: good and last and you know, fit and finish and 165 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna shine because you're doing this. You're doing all 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: this work to try and drive the car another five 167 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: six years, right, Okay, So that being said, uh, you know, 168 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: let's say it's four thousand for that, and let's say 169 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: it's five bucks to put a decent radio in the car. 170 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: Let's let's round it off and say the car is 171 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: due for some service and maintenance, and you're gonna put 172 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: five grand in this car to shape it up the 173 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: driver for five years. Fair, fair statement, Yes, all right, 174 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, provided nothing else goes wrong in 175 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the next five years and running Well, you know what 176 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: I was. I was good until yesterday and then I 177 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: woke up this morning and I had a pain in 178 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: my back exactly. It's so so the question you've got 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: to play in the game you're gonna play now is 180 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you've got to play what if what if you put 181 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: all this money in the car and the trans fails? 182 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: What if? All right, okay, so what if it needs 183 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: a clutch? Would you spend the money? Would you spend 184 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: the money on it to replace the clutch. My point is, 185 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna spend five grand on a used car that 186 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: you bought when it was seven years old to drive 187 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: it another five years. Do you think you're gonna get 188 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: another ten years out of the car? Maybe? What's what's 189 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: parts availability going to be like? Because parts aren't getting 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: easier to get. Is now is now the time for 191 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: Helen to go and look at Oh, I don't know 192 00:10:53,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: a Honda? Yea? And is that Honda fifteen to twenty grand? End? 193 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: You could sell your Civic to somebody that doesn't care 194 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: about paint, because you know what there's there's there's a 195 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: there's a person out there looking for one of everything. 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: You buy that that Honda that doesn't need paint, they 197 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: buy the Conda doesn't need paint. They'll fix their own 198 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: radio if they gave you a two grand or three 199 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: grand for it, maybe more see what the market bears. 200 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: In my mind, you've already spent the five grand for 201 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: the paint job in the radio. If you've got two 202 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: grand for that car that's like eight, you found a 203 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: car for fifteen. You're paying seven to get a car 204 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: that's seven years newer. You just spent the thousand dollars 205 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: a year. That's dirt cheap on anybody's market. Oh my god, 206 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: thank you. So it's gotta make dollars and cents, dollars 207 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: and s E N s A. Do that. Look it 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: up if you need more information. Hell, and I'm here 209 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: for you. I gotta go. I'm up against the clock. 210 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: And I appreciate your call, and I appreciate you being 211 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: there to listen. Eight five zero nine zero. The car 212 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: doctor is coming back right after this. Let's uh, let's 213 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about battery charging real quick, um, 214 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: because I want to do this real fist while I can. 215 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: So we're talking at the top of the hour about 216 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: charging and batteries and and and how it's different and 217 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: how it's so you know, so much more than what 218 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: it used to be. Since well, I don't know, I 219 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: can say it like this. V W, Audi, BMW, Ford, 220 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: and Mini. The list is short, but all four or 221 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: five of those vehicle manufacturers right now as of this moment, 222 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: require a battery registration tool to replace the battery. V 223 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: W goes back as far as two thousand nine, b W, 224 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: BMW as far as two thousand and eight. Ford F 225 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: one pickup trucks for example, since through current model year, 226 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: you need a battery registration tool, and you need it 227 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: on some of the other vehicles as well, many from 228 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: current and there's other car companies that are doing it. 229 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: So you know, just to charge and or replace a 230 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: battery now requires a separate eight You're either built into 231 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: a scan tool or a separate battery registration tool in 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: order to do it. And then I started looking at 233 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, what does it take to charge a battery? 234 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: So for example, since going forward, Honda, Acura, Audi and 235 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Audi and v W since two thousand nine, b W 236 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: as far back as two thousand. GM vehicles, uh, you know, 237 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Chevy Beau at Cadillac UM some as far as back 238 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: as two thousand five, but very mainstream since all a 239 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: g M batteries and you've got to have a battery 240 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: charger that does a g M you just can't use 241 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a standard charger. And the list goes on Hyundai, Jaguar, Mercedes, Toyota, Volvo, Ford, Lincoln. 242 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: So you know, when you walk up to that car 243 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: to charge that battery, if it's if it's something in 244 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, and chances are it probably is 245 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: that may have an a g M battery. They may 246 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: have something other than an s l A, a sealed 247 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: lead acid battery in it. You've got to have a 248 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: charger that meets that speck. And then you've gotta ask 249 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: yourself once you change the battery, if you have to, 250 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: will you be able to register the battery the battery 251 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: the computer has to know the battery was changed. It 252 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: will affect charging rate and you can do damage to 253 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: the electrical system. The vehicle can operate poorly, you can 254 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: have all sorts of issues, so be mindful of what 255 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: you're doing. It's it's it's just not that simple anymore. 256 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: And you want to take a look at that. And 257 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I want to thank Gary Mackey over 258 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: there Associated Equipment, Associated equip dot com, Associated battery chargers 259 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: and testers. Uh, some of the finest stuff in the marketplace. 260 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: And Gary was kind enough to send me this list 261 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: as well as some other information we're gonna talk about 262 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks. So just good stuff to know. 263 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: So thanks Gary, I appreciated Associated equip dot Com. Let's 264 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: get over to the phone. Let's go over and talk 265 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: to Charles in Virginia six Dodge Ram see what's going 266 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: on here? Charles welcome to the doctor. Sure, how can 267 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: I help Helly? Right? UM? Yeah, I called you about 268 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: a month ago with this weird problem where it would 269 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: only run well below a quarter tank and once you 270 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: sold it up to the loose power and um, you 271 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: had told me that it was probably receiving fuel from 272 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: like an alternative source, or it was over fueling if 273 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: it was a gasoline engine. Um. But it was a 274 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: diesel so we had trouble trouble finding the issues, right, 275 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: So I told the mechanic like you talked about, and 276 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: he started looking into it and ended up replacing the UM, 277 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: the lift pump, the fuel pressure regulator as well as 278 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: the fuel control so illinoid on the high pressure fuel pump. 279 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: So that's want to call it back and tell you 280 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: thanks for the assistance and maybe that little bit of 281 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: info will help somebody out next time around. It's fixed. 282 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: It was drawing. It was drawing fuel from another source. 283 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: That's all it could be. You know you you always 284 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: try to break the car, and thank you for that. 285 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: By the way, Charles, you know I always try to 286 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: break the car. The via down, take the component out 287 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: of the car, put it on the bench, make it work. 288 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Always I've always I've always thought of it like that. 289 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: You know, come by the shop one day you'll see it. 290 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: You'll see a module with you know, seven wires going 291 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: to it. Sometimes, you know, as we're trying to dope 292 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: it out or you know, it's just you know, tell 293 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: me how it works. Don't just say yeah, they all 294 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: go bad, they all do this. Yeah, tell me how 295 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: it works. Prove it to me. And that's that's all 296 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to get you to do. But I'm 297 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: glad it worked for you, and it's it's doing its job. 298 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Those those Dodge pick up trucks, I'm not a huge 299 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Dodge fan. I see a lot of rust and a 300 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: lot of other issues. But those Dodge diesels, those things 301 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: are animals. They will climb the side of a building 302 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and pull a trailer with them when they do it. 303 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: So you got you got yourself a good truck? Yeah 304 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: they it's you know, you'll you got yourself a good truck. 305 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: It'll go a good long time. So um by all 306 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: means take care of it all right, be aware real 307 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: quick before I let you go. You're aware that they've 308 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: had some fuel tank issues with those, right, No, I 309 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: hadn't hear anything about Yeah, just just keep an eye 310 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: on the tank, make sure you have a good you know, 311 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: a good cap system on it, and um, just be 312 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: aware because you can't buy a fuel tank for that. 313 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: There's a company out there making an extended um uh 314 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: distance tank. So if you do need a tank, I 315 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: can't think of their name if you google it. Um, 316 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: you want to make sure it's within your reach if 317 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: you should need one. But um, just just something to 318 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: be aware of, all right. So they do have some 319 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: tank where you'll see the tank actually sucking and collapse 320 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: and not uncommon in the tank to my knowledge, especially 321 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: for Nose six is no longer available from Chrysler, so 322 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna look for after market replacements should you ever 323 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: need one. All right, Okay, that's good to keep in mind. 324 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. You're very welcome, Charles. You take good care 325 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: of have a good rest of the day. UM, I 326 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Uh. Let's talk a little bit about this 327 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: real quick. I want to just cover this while I can. 328 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: This comes to a courtesy of all Data all data 329 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: dot com. You know the list of things the engine 330 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: does not crank, what could be wrong with it? Well, 331 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: obviously check the battery, voltage wall cranking. It's got to 332 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 1: be at least nine point six or higher. If it's 333 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: below that, it could the batteries on the chart. I 334 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: get that. If battery voltage is correct. Yeah, the old 335 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: tried and true cables connections tight, good, clean, and I 336 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: read down the list. Number four. Check to see if 337 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: any after market equipment has been installed, if there's something 338 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: plugged into the data link connector. You know, it's an 339 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: excellent point. Check to see if the security light is 340 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: on and flashing those two right there will stop a 341 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: lot of vehicles from cranking and starting, and not a 342 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna think about it. More great 343 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: information like this at all Data dot Com. I'm Nady 344 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 345 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: Have what's more fun than listening to Ronady in the 346 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: Car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right A five 347 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Give Ron a call. Now back 348 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: to Ron. Let's get over and talk to Marianne Vermont. Marianne, 349 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: how are you today? What can I do for you? Fine? 350 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, appreciate it. We have Sienna Toyota 351 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: Sienna Van and I'm actually sitting in it right now 352 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: looking at the books. I don't know exactly how many 353 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: miles are on it because my husband only drives it. 354 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: But we started having a problem a couple of years 355 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: ago where it would, um not not run. We'd try 356 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: to start it and it wouldn't start, and the battery 357 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: seemed good. He has little testers that doesn't have a 358 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: computer tester. But um, he used to work for electronics, 359 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: so he knows, you know, some of those things about 360 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: cars and about the older cars, how to clean the battery, 361 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: test the battery, and I've helped him and uh so 362 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: he went and bought a new battery and put the 363 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: new battery in. And now for the last three months 364 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: or four months, we've been having if we don't start 365 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the car, it is garage kept. Um, it's just dead 366 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: and we have to jump it with our little priests 367 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: in between starts. Does the car sit Marianne um about 368 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: four days. Because we we swop off between one car 369 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: and another during the COVID we both have not been 370 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: always if we go out, we go out together. Okay, 371 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: time we'll take the one car, another time we take 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the vantage. So the car has a draw on the 373 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: on the electrical system. Yes, something is drawing, but you 374 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: don't see any kind of lights on. You may not 375 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: let me ask you something. Do you have a computer 376 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: in your house? Yes, we do. Okay, does the screen blackout? Yes? Okay. 377 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Do you see the computer on? Yes? A little light 378 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: will be all right. But it wasn't for that little 379 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: light you would think you would think the computer is 380 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: not working. Correct. You've got that car is loaded with 381 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: computer modules. And my point is that any one of 382 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: those computer modules may not be going to sleep, may 383 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: not be shutting down. There's a circuit that's keeping something active. 384 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Even though you see nothing, something is still on. So 385 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: what somebody needs to do we can attack. It's a 386 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: couple of different ways. The tried and true method is 387 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: doing a Milliam draw test, where somebody is going to 388 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: hook up to the positive or negative battery post disconnected. 389 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: There's a procedure and they're gonna look to see what 390 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the Milliam draw is. All right, in non technical parliamance, 391 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about widgets, all right, a vehicle can have 392 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: a draw of more than fifty widgets, all right, it's 393 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: fifty millions. It can or it cannot. It cannot, it 394 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: cannot cannot. Well, let me make this easier for you, Maryanne, 395 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: because what I would tell you to do, rather than 396 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: take notes and try and capture this whole conversation is 397 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: after after the show today, what I would tell you 398 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: to do is just Google search Ronanini in the Car 399 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Doctor podcast and just download this segment and this will 400 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: be this This will be the second hour of the 401 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: bottom half of the hour. You can take this whole 402 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: segment and play it for your mechanic if you like. 403 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: But what somebody needs, yeah, no, I understand, so let 404 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: me finish because I'm running tie it on time. So 405 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: what what what somebody wants to do is a milliam 406 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: draw test. What that will do is um, that will 407 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: tell do we have a draw? I suspect you do, 408 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: all right. You know, you'll probably see an initial surge 409 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: of a thousand, twelve hundred milliams or widgets as I 410 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: like to call it, to keep it simple, and in theory, 411 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: the car should start to count down as the computer 412 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: draws go away. It'll start to time out, time out, 413 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: time out to where it gets under fifty. If it's 414 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: more than fifty, that's a problem. But a well charged 415 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: modern battery has the ability to withstand a less than 416 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: fifty milliam draw for up to two and a half 417 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe three weeks, depending upon the vehicle. That being said, Milliam, 418 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: draw should tell you, Yes, you have a draw. Now 419 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: we have to find it, all right, Finding it is 420 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: a whole another story. We're gonna do this one of 421 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: two ways, all right, and it depends on what the 422 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: draw is. I want you, I want you or your 423 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: mechanic to Google search voltage drop few who's testing for 424 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: current draw. There's a great video on YouTube from the 425 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: folks at Autologic that explains it. It's voltage drop testing 426 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: is a little technical mechanical. Understand it exactly, and it 427 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: will pin down what circuit the fault is. In the 428 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: other way that somebody could do it is using something 429 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: called a thermal imager. A thermal imager is basically a 430 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: heat camera. And what we'll do is keys out of 431 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle. You're not leaving the key in the ignition, 432 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: are you? By chance? Yes? We are? Okay, all right, 433 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: take the key out of the ignition and see if 434 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: the problem goes away. All right, all right? Um, you know, 435 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: because it can be the cars are very susceptible today. 436 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: You leave the key in the ignition, it may always 437 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: be active and armed. You shouldn't leave keys and cars anymore, 438 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: but might be, might be, But you know, to finish 439 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: the thoughts so the person listening gets it. A thermal 440 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: imager will show a device temperature differential. All right, um, 441 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example real quick, and then I'm 442 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna go. The drawer at home wasn't working well. I 443 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: brought my thermal imager home. I was looking for heat 444 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: escape and heat efficiency. The door gasket around the drawer 445 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: had dried out. Heat was escaping. Not anything I could feel, 446 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: but I could see the heat leak using the thermal imager. 447 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I put a door gasket in the dryer's fixed. My 448 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: wife was so happy. Um um. You know, in your case, 449 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: a thermal imager displayed on a fuse box might show 450 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: a relay still glowing red or warm as compared to 451 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: the one next to it that's black or cold. So 452 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: it's the idea of a thermal image. What's hot, what's not? Okay? 453 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: So three methods, three different ways to attack it, and 454 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure one of those will do it. But as 455 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: I said, if you're leaving the key in the ignition, 456 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: pull the key out, leaving inside the house until you're 457 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: ready to use it, and if in a week the 458 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: car starts now, in all fairness to the battery, make 459 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: sure that vehicle has had a good forty five minute 460 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: run alright, with minimal electrical loads. When you put it away, 461 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: the batteries as charged as you can make it, unless, 462 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: by chance, your husband happens to have a battery charger 463 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: kicking around the garage. Mary Anne, I appreciate the call. 464 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: Good luck to you and yours. I'm here if you 465 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: need more five five zero zero. The car doctors coming 466 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back? Aren't any of the 467 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: card doc Let's get over to David and Iowa. David, 468 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: two thousand five Silverado? What's going on here? Hey? You 469 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: know right now you can go. You're doing out there? 470 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: We're doing well, sir. How are you well? I'm pretty good. 471 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I'll get I want to give me a little bit 472 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: of information to ask my question. Uh. I got a 473 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: I bought a two thousand five Sado uh and uh 474 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: from a guy from getting an old road mail crux. 475 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: You know he was used for mail truck out and 476 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: the boon he's out here and I bought it for 477 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: two hundred bucks. After it took about three to get 478 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: the dirt and the mud off of it. But I 479 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: got it's never been wrecked. Uh. I checked the oil first, 480 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: and it had it was absolutely clean. It only had 481 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: about a hundred and twenty thousand miles on it. And 482 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: I bought it for two other bucks, and uh, it 483 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: didn't have a battery, and I got a battery from 484 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: over here to your favorite uh store. Well, let's see 485 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: where's that at? And I put it in it and 486 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: started right up my girling home and anyway, we went 487 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: about one hundred miles and I noticed that the brake 488 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: pedal was kind of spugy about halfway down and putting 489 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: fluid in it. It wasn't completely empty, but I still 490 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: haven't trouvel with it. I just wondered, Uh, what causes 491 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: that to go halfway down? Because power brakes, you know, 492 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know whether it's an adjustment or uh 493 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: maybe air or something in the line or what color 494 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: is that? So well, you know, David, I can't envision 495 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: a two d dollar vehicle having being in the greatest 496 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: shape as far as brakes are concerned. You know, my 497 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: my one, my one issue, especially a vehicle, it sounds 498 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: like it's been real hard put away wet is. When 499 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about quality of break is, let's cover the basics. 500 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, how well, how well are there this? Is 501 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: this a four wheel disc or a front disc rear 502 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: drum vehicle? It's just rear drive, so well, no, not drive, 503 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: not drive, David drum? Is it drums on the back 504 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: or discs on the back. I'm not sure. I haven't 505 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: taken the tires off. Okay, So if it's if it's 506 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: a four wheel disc vehicle, how free and easy to 507 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: calip or slides move and allow themselves to self compensate 508 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: and adjust is going to be paramount to a good 509 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: basic brake system. So what somebody really needs to do, Well, 510 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: it's been sitting for two years, David, everything's rusted. What 511 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: somebody really needs to do is pull four wheels, go 512 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: through each corner of the brake system. Make sure the 513 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: calipers move. Make sure you know, I can't imagine the 514 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: amount of rust on the rotors, all right, And and 515 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: then and once you verify you've got good calipers, the 516 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: slides move, good pads, good rotors, bleed the system thoroughly, alright. 517 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: If it's if it's been sitting for two years, then 518 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: your mechanic is likely going to have to find a 519 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: scan tool and do what we call an a BS 520 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: bleed on the vehicle itself, where it will actually excite 521 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: and move all the pistons inside the APS accumulator assembly 522 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: or a b S body assembly and free up any 523 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: sludge crud and and bleed any ear out of that. 524 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: Then we can talk about but by then we've exceeded 525 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: the value of the car. Yeah, okay, well that's that's 526 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. I'll go ahead, and dude, I just figured 527 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a regular, complete break system. 528 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: But I don't want to drive it while it's like that, 529 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: of course not you know what, breaks, breaks and tires 530 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: breaks tires in front end are still the three most 531 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: important safety systems on the car. I got two minutes. 532 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: I got two minutes, David, What was your question to 533 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: me or comment? Okay, what I was gonna tell you 534 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: that people out here in Iowa, uh very I'm at 535 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Walmart right now and I don't see but maybe one 536 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: or two people out of probably two hundred out here 537 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: that's wearing a mask. And the other day I stopped 538 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: in the station, I talked to a guy from India 539 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and I Pakistan, and I said, hey, what's the word 540 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: for stupid? You know? And you looked at me started laughing, 541 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: and he said, well, I'll tell you what he said. 542 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Stupid is stupid. And no matter what language you talk, 543 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: well you know what true words never spoken, David. I 544 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the thought as always, brother, you stay safe. Let 545 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: me let me keep going. I gotta get over to 546 00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Walton Mauley real quick. Walter, are you there, Walter? I'm here. 547 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Are you there? Run? I'm here, Walter? How are you, sir? 548 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: What what full? Full? Well? Yeah, it's you know, it's 549 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a regional issue. Listen, we're driving around 550 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey. People are and aren't wearing masks. It's amazing. 551 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, we got I got two segments in six minutes. 552 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: How can I help you with this? Oh for Siena. Okay, 553 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: it's got a three eleven and twenty one twelve withdraw 554 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: throttle bodies to them. One of them says it sticks open, 555 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: one of them says it sticks closed, and the other 556 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: one just says it's broke. Okay. And if throttle body 557 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: is so clean you could eat off. Yeah, okay, I 558 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: get that. If if if you clear the code, would 559 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: you say twenty one, three and twelve and eleven? And 560 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: if you if you clear the faults, does does it 561 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: come back? Yes? All three, all three of them. Okay, well, 562 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: let me rephrase that generally all three them once or twice. 563 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Only two of them came back. Okay, um, just for giggles. 564 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: On the on the back side of the engine, all right, 565 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: make sure all the ground straps. There should be one 566 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: to three ground straps, one over on the driver's side 567 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, starting from the driver's side, there's gonna 568 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: be one to the throttle, one to the throttle body, 569 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: one to the bracket next to it, and one at 570 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the far end on the passenger side going to the 571 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: bracelets in the back of the intake. Make sure all 572 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: the ground straps are there, all right. I've seen screwy things, 573 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: good clean and tight. All right. We want to we 574 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: want to make sure that's there. Are you doing any 575 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: kind of a throttle body relearner reset? Well, only by 576 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, leaving it. The battery are disconnected for you know, 577 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: links of time and hooking it back up. Are you 578 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: able to do all right when you're doing it? Are 579 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: you disconnecting both positive and negative cables. Yeah, I've done 580 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: that and touched them together. Okay, does this car move? 581 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Does it accelerate? Uh? Not very well? Okay, so it's 582 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: stuck in limp mode. We've got a failure of the 583 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: throttle body and or the circuit correct from the sounds 584 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: of it, right, that's what you're telling me. Yeah, okay, 585 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: tell you what, Walt. Let me pull over and take 586 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: the pause. When I come back, we'll finish up. I'll 587 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: running anating the car doctor. We'll be back with Walt 588 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: from Hawaii right after this. Welcome back, n any of 589 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Let's get back to Walter. Walter, you're there, sir, Yes, 590 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: I am. So the fault code you're getting generally indicate 591 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: obviously a fault in the throttle control system, which is 592 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: why the vehicle goes into limping. But it also indicates 593 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: a potentially sticking throttle body assembly. But there's wires, there's 594 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: a computer involved, there's the grounds. I talked about. Cleanliness 595 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: at the battery is important. I'm sure you know it. 596 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Being you, I'm sure the terminals have been cleaned, and 597 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure everything is nice and tight. But I just 598 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: I want to mention that for everybody's benefit. All right, 599 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: I'll let me interruption second on you. Your first guest 600 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: was right when I was doing the rescanning it, I 601 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: had not hooked those straps back up that you talked about, 602 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: because I had had to plank them off in the 603 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: intake man fall off, and once it were back on 604 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: and downtight, I never thought of him as being a ground. 605 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: I thought they were just braces. They're ground and it 606 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: went away. It works fine. Now what do you mean 607 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: guess that's that's that's knowledge, Walter. But I get it. 608 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: You're welcome, um. But let me tell you what. Let 609 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: me I'll tell you what. Let me let me finish 610 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: the thought. Let me let me tell you where I 611 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: was going. So my, my, my, my thought was, okay 612 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: that what I would tell someone in this case is 613 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: clear the code, turn the key on, but don't start it. 614 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: Does the code come back? If the code comes back, 615 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: what does that tell us? That's the question to you, 616 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: I'd say, to be electronic, right, it's a circuit fault, 617 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: not a performance fault. All right. If you have to 618 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: drive the car to get the faull to occur, it's 619 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: a performance fault. And that's boy, Let me tell you 620 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: that splits the diagnosis right in half every time. That's 621 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: fifty of it right there, all right. Now, One of 622 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: the things you want to do, if you you know, 623 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: you had to planum off, you probably did plugs or 624 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: coils or what have you. Did you do coils with 625 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: your spark plugs, Walter, I didn't do the coils. They 626 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: always do the coils, always try and I wanted to, 627 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: but you know, it was this person didn't have any money. 628 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: I know, it's the price thing. It's just it's it's 629 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: it's you know, for there, hundred twenty bucks apiece whatever. 630 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: But it's just car probably right, and I get and 631 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: I get that too, but it's just just be aware. 632 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, you know what you want to do 633 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: to reset that throttle body is I like to disconnect 634 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: both cables and then put a tent. You know, do 635 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: you have your resistor wire made up that I always 636 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: talked about. Do you have a tent on there? You 637 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: go and put that between you know, disconnect both battery 638 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: cables and put that between the two cables, all right, 639 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: and let it bleed out for give it five minutes, 640 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: then hook it up. You know, it's it's funny. I 641 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: don't understand why. But I'll take the plenum's off, I'll 642 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: disconnect things. I'll wipe out throttle bodies that are really clean, 643 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: but I still wipe them out. I'll see a hundred 644 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: and fifty two rpm difference from when I put it together. 645 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: Resetting it like that fixes the car until the next 646 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: time I'm running. Anting of the car DOT reminding you 647 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you