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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I'm not surprised the Bengals beat the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't put the Vikings in there. McLevin. My

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Speaker 1: Bengals beating the Vikings, got it, They're out. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna put somebody else in there. Isn't this gonna be Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: They lost at home to Pittsburgh. Everybody's talking about Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and the Bills being a Super Bowl too. Well,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. I think those are one and two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Browns belong on there. I thought

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Speaker 1: they looked pretty pretty impressive. I think it's how they

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Speaker 1: lost because they were the better team for three quarters

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they gave Mahomes an

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Speaker 1: opportunity and he took advantage of them. Joe Burrow, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback, led the Bengals to the win against the

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Speaker 1: Vikings twenty twenty seven through for a couple of touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: including one to his former teammate Jamar Chase as they

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Speaker 1: pick up the victory in overtime. Congratulations, Joe, how do

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Speaker 1: you feel today to start the season off of the win,

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Speaker 1: especially the way we won we know, sayd see came

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Speaker 1: out on top. That's something we weren't able to do

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Speaker 1: last year or so it's good to be to win

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Speaker 1: like that. I take me into overtime, fourth and one.

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Speaker 1: You have the ball your own forty eight, there's thirty

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Speaker 1: nine seconds to go in the third quarter. You had

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Speaker 1: a fourth in one, you ran the ball. What's the

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Speaker 1: conversation like with that play call to keep the drive alive? Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put the ball in my Handsum No, I

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Speaker 1: saw a look from the defense that I think opened

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Speaker 1: up the play that we had. So we got to

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Speaker 1: that play and you know, it wasn't didn't work out

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Speaker 1: the way we expected it too, but we got the

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Speaker 1: job done. Wait, but you go to the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Is the play called going to be a running call? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And then you see something and then

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Speaker 1: you realize that, hey, I got an option here and

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Speaker 1: I can hit my tight end. Yeah. They put basically

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Speaker 1: And so I knew it was gonna be tough to

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Speaker 1: run the ball. So we just got to a us

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Speaker 1: and executed it. How much fun is it to uh, well,

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Speaker 1: take me back to the play in the huddle call?

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Speaker 1: What is the play that you threw to Jamar for

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Speaker 1: his first NFL touchdown? Just double go? Why shallow? Um?

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Speaker 1: Just tell Jamar to run as fast as you can? Okay,

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Speaker 1: say did you say Jamar, just run as fast as

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Speaker 1: you can? I'll throw it up to That was understood.

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Speaker 1: Explain this whole the college football to the NFL football,

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Speaker 1: and Jamar was not able to pick it up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand it, but it sort of came out. I'd

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Speaker 1: never heard it before from a wide receiver. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think Jamar is an honest guy, and he's been having

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Speaker 1: some struggles, um basically just in the preseason games. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's been playing really well in practice, and you know,

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Speaker 1: the NFL football is different. I don't know how big

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Speaker 1: of a part of the plane in the drop scene

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Speaker 1: was having in the preseason, but you know, there's no

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Speaker 1: play Game one, and he sure did. You know, people

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Speaker 1: about Jamara, all right, he's gonna show up on game

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Speaker 1: Dame dous thing, and that's exactly what it did. How

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Speaker 1: much do you think of your your off season, with

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Speaker 1: your surgeries, with your knee. Now, I've put in the

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Speaker 1: you know, I got got rolled up, got hit on

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Speaker 1: it yesterday and you know it felt great. So that

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Speaker 1: we can move on. What was the worst day for you?

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Speaker 1: Worst day in the rehab? Yeah, I mean those first

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Speaker 1: it was smooth sailing. Bears played the Rams last night.

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Speaker 1: How much of that game did you watch since your

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Speaker 1: next game is against the Bears. Yeah, I watched all

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Speaker 1: of it. No, they obviously have some some really good

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to to bring some of that next week.

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Speaker 1: We're shop to play. Is the game slowing down? College quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: Has that happened to you? Yeah? I think you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was a great team win. What advice

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Speaker 1: would you give a rookie quarterback. Don't be afraid to

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Speaker 1: You know, if you see it, throw, let it rip

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Speaker 1: and then you know, talk about it later. But you

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Speaker 1: know when I got into trouble is when I was

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Speaker 1: indecisive and you know, slow and what wasn't really sure

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Speaker 1: out there and let it rip, you know, I played

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Are you on social media? Yeah, I'm back

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Speaker 1: on There's not a big Twitter guy, but I'm on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: It's dangerous, Joe, it is, it really is. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm not on Twitter because you know, Twitter, they can

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Speaker 1: Instagram you kind of in your own little world. You know,

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Speaker 1: look at all that stuff. Were you on Twitter last year? Um?

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Speaker 1: I mean a little bit much? But Twitter? Yeah? Twitter

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Speaker 1: how did they rough you up? What were some of

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Speaker 1: Instagram is a little more positive, is that what you're saying? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think everyone is a positive mindset on there.

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Speaker 1: you would love to change? Now, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I would like for them to be less TV timeouts. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It feels like every series you're running out there and

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Speaker 1: you don't want it to get too serious. Did you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the LSU Tigers? Yeah, sure, I'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the Tigers. Did you watch the UCLA game?

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Speaker 1: great coaching staff. But'll they'll get that right. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: for very long? Does it, Ohio states loss affect you

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Speaker 1: And I mean you talked to Urban Meyer about giving

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, coach Meyer stay in contact. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're good friends now. So you know we talked.

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Speaker 1: weeks he just checks in. You know, he's a good guy,

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Speaker 1: Week four though. Wait, so you're friends with him now?

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Speaker 1: You said, yeah, yeah, but you weren't friends with him? Oh, him,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Does he make you laugh? Is he funny? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's hilarious in his own way. Yeah. But I keep

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Speaker 1: never see it. Well, I don't think they want you

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Speaker 1: job of that. Joe, just Y, Hey, congrats on the wind,

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Speaker 1: have a good future. Thank you, Joe. Good to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. That's Joe Burrow, Bengals quarterback. Last time we

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Speaker 1: Well some do, because you see him being thrown around

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Speaker 1: around like that? Dude? You're a big guy. Phil Simms,

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Speaker 1: You look at these, you see big Ben and he

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Speaker 1: but not big. Josh Allen is taller than he looks

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Speaker 1: defensive players, and you know they've just throw him around. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: you remember the first question we asked him because we

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Speaker 1: he might have cost you a sack because he held

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Speaker 1: onto the ball too long or didn't step up in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. Yes, I yelled in my head. And typically

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Speaker 1: instead of yelling at him directly, because I know that's

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Speaker 1: kind of unproductive, what I would do is I just

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Speaker 1: wouldn't help him up. Like you know, usually, if if

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Speaker 1: you see the quarterback land in the ground, it's a

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Speaker 1: lineman's culture to go right over, help your ball carrier up,

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Speaker 1: help your quarterback up, especially if you gave up the

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Speaker 1: sacklick wait, wait, what was the name of that quarterback?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't even remember all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that I played with that started with me, but that

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks and quarterbacks back there. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks back there. But I definitely instead

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Speaker 1: of helping him up, I'd just turned my head and

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Speaker 1: walked right back to the hottle. That was his way

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Speaker 1: of knowing that I was very displeased with what he

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Speaker 1: did on that play. Games surprised you the most yesterday?

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Speaker 1: It was the Packers, right because living in Wisconsin, I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody had high expectations. That was what the conversation was

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Speaker 1: about the entire offseason, how this was their last dance,

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Speaker 1: they were going to win the Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers

446
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Speaker 1: was super motivated. He finally, you know, kind of got

447
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Speaker 1: a little bit what he wants, so he was a

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Speaker 1: little bit more happy. But maybe what we want from

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers is a piste off Aaron Rodgers. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe that's what he needs to get the best out

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Speaker 1: of himself and then get the best out of his teammates.

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Speaker 1: Because what we saw of Aaron Rodgers was not what

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Speaker 1: I recognized as an Aaron Rodgers. Performance when you have

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. What's that like for the offensive linement

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Speaker 1: of knowing what your job is or how does that

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Speaker 1: job change when you have a rookie quarterback. Well, it

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Speaker 1: makes your job a lot harder because, like I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever given up a sack because

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Speaker 1: the quarterback was in the wrong spot on every single

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Speaker 1: one of those sacks. But that's the issue with a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and we saw it a little bit with

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence this weekend. Right, they're either not in the

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Speaker 1: right spot because they dropped too deep, their footwork wasn't right,

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Speaker 1: or they're holding ont of the ball too long, they're

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Speaker 1: not going through the progressions the right way, and so

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Speaker 1: you deal with all those things as rookies because they

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Speaker 1: got so much on their play. The quarterback position has

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Speaker 1: the most to learn out of any position in the

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Speaker 1: NFL by far, and it's so much of it as

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Speaker 1: decision making, getting the football at on time, and so

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when they're thinking about what's the

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Speaker 1: coverage doing, what's the pressure? Do I need to change

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Speaker 1: the protection, they forget about some of the little details

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Speaker 1: that Okay, maybe I'm supposed to take five steps and

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Speaker 1: not seven. If I hit my seventh step, I need

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Speaker 1: to step up and I need to hitch up because

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Speaker 1: otherwise I'm gonna be standing at ten and a half

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Speaker 1: yards and the line is blocking for a spot at

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Speaker 1: nine yards, and so as a lignment, it's the worst

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Speaker 1: feeling in the world where your guy turns and runs

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Speaker 1: a field and you turn and you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: running them by, and all of a sudden, out of

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Speaker 1: the corner of my left eye, I can see the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and he's standing not where he's supposed to be,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh crap, I gotta turn the jets

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Speaker 1: on to try to push this guy pass. But at

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Speaker 1: that point it's already too late. So it's just part

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Speaker 1: of dealing with a rookie. A young quarterback is dealing

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Speaker 1: with those moments where he didn't do what he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. But that's sort of the cost of

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Speaker 1: doing business with a rookie if you're blocking for Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger or you're blocking for somebody who has some mobility,

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Speaker 1: like the difference in you know, because Buffalo didn't get

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Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger yesterday and he not moving, he not

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Speaker 1: running out running anybody. You know, the different philosophy that

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Speaker 1: you have when you have somebody who has some elusive

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Speaker 1: moves there as opposed to a stationery Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback that's elusive, like a Russell Wilson, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: those guys, Patrick Mahomes. You know you can't have that

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Speaker 1: internal clock where, Okay, I know the ball's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be thrown, I gotta turn and run and chase the

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Speaker 1: football and try to get downfield in case there's a

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Speaker 1: fumble or in case I need to peel a guy

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Speaker 1: off the pile. What you're doing much more now is

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Speaker 1: you're reacting to whatever your defensive player is doing. It's

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Speaker 1: a little bit like when you're playing defensive back in

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Speaker 1: man coverage and you're following your guy. You're watching his

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Speaker 1: eyes because you can't see the football, you can't see

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Speaker 1: what's going on behind you. Same thing as an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching that defensive end and I'm queuing off of

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Speaker 1: his eyes. As soon as his eyes go this way, boom,

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Speaker 1: I got to chase him because there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, Russell Wilson has extended to

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Speaker 1: play and he's running out of the pocket, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta do whatever I can by hook or by crook

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Speaker 1: to get my head in front of this guy and

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Speaker 1: get one last shove to be able to give Russell

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Speaker 1: that half a second. Then he needs to go hit

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett down the field for that big play. So

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Speaker 1: it's much different than you gotta Ben Roethlisberger. You've got

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Speaker 1: those older quarterbacks who are much more this is where

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be. They're gonna be right where they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be. And once your guy turns and runs down field,

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Speaker 1: you know the ball has been delivered. It's not like

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Speaker 1: Ben's scrambling back. They're trying to make plays with his feet.

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Speaker 1: When you have that college coach, successful coach who goes

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Speaker 1: into the NFL, Urban Meyer, what's the wrong thing for

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Speaker 1: that college coach to do once against too an NFL

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Speaker 1: locker room? The one wrong thing. I think we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of the wrong things and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the difficulties from Urban. Honestly, I think the hardest thing

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Speaker 1: for Urban Meyer is that he had no NFL experience,

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Speaker 1: and so the hardest thing then is hiring your staff.

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Speaker 1: And there were some whispers coming out this week already

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Speaker 1: that there was a lot of friction between the guys

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Speaker 1: that he brought in from college that he was comfortable with,

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Speaker 1: that he had a relationship with, that he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to have to teach every single thing that he wanted

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Speaker 1: to those guys and the guys that he brought in

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Speaker 1: that had the NFL experience, because it is a different

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Speaker 1: culture in the NFL and in college. There is a

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Speaker 1: lot of different concepts and schemes and how you want

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Speaker 1: to run your practice, how you need to treat your

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Speaker 1: players like a little bit more like professionals men to

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Speaker 1: get the most out of them. And so I think

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Speaker 1: the learning curve is already really steep when you're a

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Speaker 1: coach that's spent most of the time in college and

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Speaker 1: you make that transition to the pro game. We've seen

549
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: it so many times. But it's even worse when you

550
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Speaker 1: have no NFL experience because typically you're putting them together

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Speaker 1: a staff that has half of the guys that are

552
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Speaker 1: like your guys, and then half the guys that are

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Speaker 1: NFL guys that you don't really know but that have

554
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Speaker 1: been recommended for you that you've hired without really having

555
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: any relationship with and there's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: of friction there. There's going to be friction between the

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Speaker 1: guys that were college coaches that are trying to coach

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Speaker 1: the NFL players like they're still in college, where it's

559
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Speaker 1: more about trying to motivate them in a lot of

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Speaker 1: different ways to get them to play hard, Whereas in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, a lot of those guys are self motivated

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Speaker 1: and they're motivated by money, they're motivated by feeding their family,

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Speaker 1: that are motivated because they could get cut at any moment,

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Speaker 1: and so I think it's a lot more about teaching

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Speaker 1: at the NFL game and versus in colleges about motivating

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Speaker 1: and developing and just teaching the values and the fundamentals

567
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Speaker 1: of foot hard work, toughness, being on time. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: really fly as much in the NFL. You can see

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas the NFL Network's NFL Game Day kick off Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's six Eastern ahead of the Giants Washington game on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. Do you think Ron Rivera brings in

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. That's a great question. I didn't hear what

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Speaker 1: the injury situation to the Big Beard man is. I

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Speaker 1: know he heard his hip, but I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: long he's out. I still like Fitzpatrick with that team

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Speaker 1: because that defense is so good. I thought I didn't

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Speaker 1: keep played pretty well yesterday. And at this point it's

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Speaker 1: difficult to bring in a quarterback have him learn the

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Speaker 1: entire offense and get on the same page with your

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Speaker 1: pass catchers, unless you're going to bring in Cam and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: use your legs. We want you to scramble and you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of change the offense a little bit more. It's

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Speaker 1: more rpo type stuff, quarterback power, doing some of the

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Speaker 1: things that he did in New England. Then maybe you

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Speaker 1: think about it. But I think if they're going to

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Speaker 1: keep the same offense and continue to just try to

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Speaker 1: throw the football, then I don't think it's a great fit.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you always, Joe. We'll be watching

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night. Thank you, buddy. Awesome. Thanks Dan. That's

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, NFL Network analyst, former Brown's All Pro offensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: and we'll end up in Kenton in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the room. Best and worst to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with Fritzie Todd Best and Worst to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Best of the weekend eighteen year old qualifier Emma Radu Kanu.

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Speaker 1: Want to make sure I pronounced that right. Wins the

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Speaker 1: US Open, didn't lose even one set along the way, Emma,

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old La Fernandos showed great maturity and poise

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Speaker 1: throughout the way they handled the media and the fans.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty awesome. Worst of the weekend

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Speaker 1: of giving it to Western Carolina and Alabama State. While

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Speaker 1: you ask, the Catamounts lose to the Sooner seventy six nothing,

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Speaker 1: the Hornets fall to Auburn sixty two nothing. So if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do the math at home, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty eight to zero combined, come on now. I hope

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Speaker 1: they got a nice paid day to be humiliated in

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Speaker 1: such battery. Nobody watched more tennis from the women's side

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Speaker 1: of the draw than Fritzie did at the US Open,

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Speaker 1: enthusiastically for the fantastics. Yeah, yeah, of course you didn't

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Speaker 1: watch the men, But boy did you watch the women's

610
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Speaker 1: side of the draw. Great interviews and class yes all

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Speaker 1: the way through. Teenagers to handle themselves like that. Very impressed.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd mclovin. He still doesn't know you're making

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Speaker 1: fun now I know he does it. I play it along.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're doing. Yeah. My best is going

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Speaker 1: to be Elijah Mitchell Junior, the third rookie running back

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, proving anybody could run him. A Kyle Shannon

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Speaker 1: offense went for over a hundred yards. My worst is

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Speaker 1: going to be what everybody's talking about. Connor McGregor. Conor

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Speaker 1: McGregor tries to fight machine Gun Kelly at the VMA's

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Speaker 1: last night because machine Gun Kelly would not give him

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Speaker 1: an autograph. Apparently, I have no idea where this is going.

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Speaker 1: I'm sensing some sort of Jake Paul Logan Paul fight,

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Speaker 1: but it was the big wait, wait, the machine gun Kelly.

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Speaker 1: He's not fighting anybody. Well, Connor McGregor called him out,

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Speaker 1: said let's go, because I guess he asked machine gun Kelly,

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Speaker 1: who I think maybe his son is a fan of

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Speaker 1: or something for an autograph. Machineo Gilly shot him down.

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor threw a drink at him and went berserk.

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Speaker 1: Or perhaps the whole thing is set up. But something's

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Speaker 1: going on there. No, yeah, but no, no, machine Gun

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Speaker 1: Kelly weighs less than his girlfriend Megan Fox. I mean

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Speaker 1: how much you think Connor McGregor ways, Well, Connor McGregor

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Speaker 1: is a professional fighter. I mean machine gun Kelly. I

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Speaker 1: mean he built like a cornstalk. Yeah, se yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: he's like six four one twenty. He's as thin as

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Speaker 1: a rail. And then plus it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: be like, all right, you guys want to fistfight when

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Speaker 1: the machine gun Kelly's got like crystals glued all over

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Speaker 1: his face and wearing a stunning amount of makeup and

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Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, right, let's fight. Then I guess I

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Speaker 1: guess machine gun Kelly, who's an artist by he's a

642
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Speaker 1: musician in case you're not aware of machine gun Kelly,

643
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Speaker 1: and he goes out with the actress Megan Fox. But

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Speaker 1: I guess his security people were a little overly aggressive

645
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Speaker 1: with Connor McGregor. Connor McGregor's walking around the cane. He

646
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Speaker 1: just had surgery a month ago, and doesn't he goes

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Speaker 1: from zero to one hundred. Couldn't there be somewhere in

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Speaker 1: between where you just go, hey, we'd love to get

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Speaker 1: a picture, and then the security guy pushes you and

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Speaker 1: you're like, easy, I just want to get a picture

651
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Speaker 1: with him, not come on I'm gonna tell you apart

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Speaker 1: likes pretty good. Easy, easy, Come on, you're breaking this

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Speaker 1: one down. I get tired of Connor McGregor. His immediate

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Speaker 1: reaction is to throw a drink. Yeah, wow, tough guy.

655
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: You threw a drink at a guy weighs one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty pounds and he's there with his girlfriend and

657
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Speaker 1: he's got glitter on. Wow. Wow, tough guy. Tough guy. Man,

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Speaker 1: I just get I get bored by Connor McGregor. Like

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Speaker 1: I I understood the whole you know, whatever that world

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Speaker 1: was when he was successful, and you know he hasn't

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00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: been any good for a while. Ain't does stupid things?

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00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: God do you haven't? Do you anything else you have? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Seaton O'Connor best and worst, my worst of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Uh And this is just punishing. It was absolutely crushing.

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Speaker 1: Was like watching my own son get benched brock Purty,

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. That was just not that's your boy. That

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Speaker 1: was just not the day. That's your boy. Yeah, that

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: was my guy. That was my guy. He still is,

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Speaker 1: He still is my guy. But that was unfortunate for them.

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Speaker 1: But mcan you he was your guy in twenty fifteen?

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Speaker 1: How is he still playing college football? I know I

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Speaker 1: did have to ask Seaton. I was like, is your

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Speaker 1: guy still playing at Iowa State? Yes, yes he is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: b October October, in September. See that's he's He's very

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Speaker 1: much from the Bill Belichick school of thinking that this

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Speaker 1: He uses September as like the preseason. Let's just see

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Speaker 1: what we have here, and then he turns it on

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Speaker 1: in October um. And then while I'm on a rant

679
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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, the prolif ration of dual quarterbacks. Now where

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Speaker 1: you're going with two all of a sudden, one guy's on,

681
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: one guy's off, one guy's on, one guy's off, not on.

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Speaker 1: And it was already bad in college, but now it's

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Speaker 1: going to the NFL. What are we doing? Maybe I

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: just believe too much in the like if you have

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Speaker 1: if you don't have, what is it? If you have

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Speaker 1: two too, you don't have one? What all of a

687
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: sudden everybody's oh, Jacoby Brisetta, No, now it's two, and

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Speaker 1: then it's this guy, and then it's that guy. What

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: every game was like that? It's a situational football, I

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Speaker 1: think is what that's called. Yes, Paul, best and worst

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Speaker 1: of the weekend, this is kind of a best and worst.

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Speaker 1: My Toledo Rockets almost took down Notre Dame. They lost

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Speaker 1: thirty through twenty nine, an unbelievably great loss. But they

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Speaker 1: had him what about a minute and a half left,

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Speaker 1: They had a touchdown. The running back could have taken

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Speaker 1: a knee and kicked the field goal to win it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: great game by Toledo thought and then player of the

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Speaker 1: weekend punters don't get enough credit Tory Taylor, the Iowa punter.

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Speaker 1: He had eight punts. He averaged fifty one yards a punt,

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Speaker 1: five of them are down inside the five, inside the five,

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Speaker 1: five of them, and he also had a seventy yard

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Speaker 1: punt dominated Iowa state. Thanks for listening to The Dan

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Speaker 1: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Bayer. We have a brand

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Speaker 1: Let me start with the rams in Matthew Stafford last night.

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Speaker 1: Could it have gone any better for Matthew Stafford? No,

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Speaker 1: it was great to see him in a different uniform,

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Speaker 1: surrounded by a ton of talent, obviously a great coach

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Speaker 1: on his sideline, and I think we'll continue to see

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Speaker 1: him flourish as the season moves forward and we see

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Speaker 1: him to get more and more comfortable with those guys

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Speaker 1: around him. But you also have a quarterback who didn't

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Speaker 1: have talent in Detroit, Like, how much can we put

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Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford with the failures of the Lions, Because

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Speaker 1: we're going to get him a lot of credit with

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Speaker 1: the rams because he has talent, but the quarterback gets

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00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: too much credit and too much blame. True. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I think the quarterback position is really

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00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: it's so important to have the right organization surrounding you.

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Speaker 1: There's been plenty of quarterbacks that have gone to the

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Speaker 1: right place and had much better careers in the right place,

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Speaker 1: the right organization than them going to a bad organization

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Speaker 1: like Detroit. I mean, Detroit's been struggling for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You know. We we've heard the stories, you know, inside

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Speaker 1: and out from back in the days um you know,

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Speaker 1: and Stafford was there for twelve years. He gave it

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Speaker 1: his best shot. He had some talent around him at times.

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Speaker 1: But you know, seeing him in LA with that kind

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Speaker 1: of offense, that kind of um, that kind of system,

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00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of talk about him

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Speaker 1: not being able to play the game outside the pocket

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Speaker 1: and do all the bootlegs and play action stuff that

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Speaker 1: they did. But man, he looked good last night getting

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Speaker 1: outside the pocket and thrown thrown on the run. But

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Speaker 1: these rookie quarterbacks come in and they're ready to go um,

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Speaker 1: or at least we think they are. But but the

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Speaker 1: mental part of this though, Carson, I'm curious about because

753
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: you sat your first year behind John Kittner, But like, physically,

754
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: were you more ready than mentally or maybe the other

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00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: way around. Oh, these guys are coming into the league

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00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: physically ready. I mean these these are you know, look

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00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: at Trey Lance in San Francisco. I mean physically gifted, quick, fast, explosive, arm, accurate.

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Speaker 1: But it just takes some time. I mean it just

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00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: takes that, you know, a couple of seasons and getting

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Speaker 1: used to being on third down, third and long, backed

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00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: up in your own territory in the red zone with

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00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: the game on the line. There's so many things that

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Speaker 1: you need as a quarterback to develop, and a majority

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00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: of those things you need outside of having a great

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: organization and a really good play caller, is experience. And

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00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: until these young guys have experience and a bunch of

767
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: plays and a bunch of different situations under their belt,

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00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: they're not completely mentally ready. But these guys are coming

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00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: in the league right now physically ready, without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: How overwhelmed did you feel first year starting? Well, I

771
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Speaker 1: had that first year to sit and rest, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't feel overwhelmed. But had I played and that that

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Speaker 1: Week one game my rookie year, you know, I absolutely

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Speaker 1: would have felt overwhelmed. I mean, there's so much you

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Speaker 1: don't know about this game. And like I said, it

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00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: just takes reps and it takes experience. Yeah, I'm always

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Speaker 1: curious about that. Then you have a bad game and

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Speaker 1: then it stays with Like the pros are able, the

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Speaker 1: veterans can move on, like you have to have a

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Speaker 1: short memory, it feels like, but it feels like a

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Speaker 1: rookie is going to hold on to that bad interception

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Speaker 1: he had or a bad loss a little bit longer. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: until you've proven yourself to your teammates that you can

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Speaker 1: get over a bad loss, a bad play that lost

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Speaker 1: a game. Until you can prove that to your teammates

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Speaker 1: and yourself, you don't know. I mean, if you can

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Speaker 1: go to college like Kyler Murray did at Oklahoma in

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Speaker 1: one year, go out there and play amazing and win

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Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy and almost a national championship, But until

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Speaker 1: you do it at the NFL level, until you prove

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Speaker 1: it to yourself, Hey, I can go out in Week

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Speaker 1: one and lay an egg, and I can bounce back

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Speaker 1: in Week two and have one hundred and ten passer rating.

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Speaker 1: You don't know you can do it until you do it.

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Speaker 1: And you're seeing some of these young guys struggle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you watch Trevor Lawrence play yesterday and it was a struggle.

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00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: But that kid and has the right mentality, the right makeup.

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Speaker 1: I expect him to bounce back. It might not be

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Speaker 1: in week two, it might not be in week three,

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Speaker 1: but I would pretty much take any bet right now

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Speaker 1: saying that Trevor Lawrence is not going to be a bust.

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: He will be a successful NFL quarterback. How do you

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Speaker 1: explain Aaron Rodgers yesterday? Man? This position, even when you're

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00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, the position of quarterback is so difficult when

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Speaker 1: you put extra pressure on yourself. I Aaron has asked

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Speaker 1: for all the pressure, all the criticism you could possibly

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Speaker 1: ever ask for, and it is so difficult. Even when

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Speaker 1: you're as talented and gifted as Aaron. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on him to succeed. There's a lot of

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00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: pressure on him to perform. It just goes to show

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Speaker 1: you that even Aaron Rodgers can get rated. He looked

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Speaker 1: rattled from the jump. I mean, he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. He couldn't settle in and find his feet.

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Speaker 1: He was harassed all day in the pocket, and that

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Speaker 1: might be a little bit of this offseason catching up

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Speaker 1: to him. There's no doubt in my mind Aaron will

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Speaker 1: bounce back and have a Pro Bowl tight caliber year,

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00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But he looked extremely rattled yesterday.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain Patrick Mahomes to those who might

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Speaker 1: not have witnessed Patrick Mahomes. He's magic. There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys in the league. They are just magicians. Russell

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: Wilson jumps out of you, jumps out at the top

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Speaker 1: of my mind. He just does things that you don't

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Speaker 1: expect him to be able to do. Patrick Mahomes, as

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00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: much as we think he's great and he's got this

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Speaker 1: big arm and he's Houdini, he just makes some plays

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Speaker 1: that we didn't even think he could make. But there's

828
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Speaker 1: just a handful of guys in this league right now

829
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Speaker 1: that have magic about him, and he's one of them.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback and of course

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner, are gloves performance enhancing Absolutely not for

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. No, I mean, they're you know, when

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Speaker 1: I think of performance enhancing, I think like everybody else,

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Speaker 1: you think of something you're injecting or ingesting in some

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Speaker 1: form or another. But if putting on gloves is performance enhancing,

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Speaker 1: then sower shoulder pads and helmets, well, but it helps

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Speaker 1: you catch the ball, yeah, And a pair of shoulder

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00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: pads help you tackle somebody. Yeah. But but a previous

839
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Speaker 1: generation didn't have this. Well, the previous generation didn't have

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Speaker 1: the technology and their helmets and their shoulder pads that

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Speaker 1: we have to today. How much does that help having

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Speaker 1: that technology in your helmet, when you have somebody who

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Speaker 1: can calm you down, whisper to you while you're getting

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Speaker 1: ready to call your play or getting up to the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, Well, you don't have that much time

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Speaker 1: to have a shrink jump on your headset and calm

847
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: you down. And time you only got twenty five seconds.

848
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: You got to get the play in, you got to

849
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: relay the play and then get the snap off. But

850
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, I do think you know that technology is

851
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: great because, especially as I got older in the league,

852
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: I was way too fat and out of shape to

853
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: run from the huddle of the side line and back

854
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: and forth in between every play getting the play, so

855
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I needed that break to stand on the huddle and

856
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: hear it through my headset. Do you need to be

857
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: in shape to be a quarterback? Absolutely? Absolutely? Unlike pictures,

858
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: I've always heard people say that pitchers have to be

859
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: in great, great shape to be a pitcher. I think

860
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: you got to be even better shape to play quarterback

861
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Did you not lift? Did you not run? Like?

862
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: What happened? That you got fat? I got old. I

863
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said fat. I just got old, and I

864
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: got tired, and all those hits start adding up. Having

865
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: to go back and forth and shuttle plays in and out.

866
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: When I was twenty twenty two twenty three would have

867
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: been a lot easier than when I was thirty eight.

868
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: So thankfully, when I was in my late thirties, I

869
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: had the headset on do you ever call a time

870
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: out because you're too tired? Absolutely? I Actually I got

871
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: to the bottom of I got to the bottom of

872
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: a scrum and it was a fumbled snap, and I

873
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: had gotten back down on top of it. Everybody was

874
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: laying on top of me, and I was playing for

875
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians in Arizona, and I was holding onto the

876
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: ball so tightly and somebody from the opposing team was

877
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: trying to rip it out of my hands that my

878
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: hand went numb, and I was worried that the next

879
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: player was going to be a pass. I'm sure enough

880
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Bruce called a pass, and the feeling hadn't come back

881
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: in my hands yet. Because it was so fatigued for

882
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: holding onto a ball and trying to maintain possession at

883
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: the bottom of the pile, I had to call a

884
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: time out. What's it like having Arians talk to you?

885
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: It's great. I mean, you look at Tampa Bay play

886
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: now and Brady doesn't have to deal with Arians. And

887
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: in the huddle and over the headset he's got Byron Left,

888
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: which the offensive coordinator calling the plays, Arians is mfing

889
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: you while he's your offensive game out all game long,

890
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: me or the ref or somebody on the opposing team.

891
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, he would hit that button on his recorder

892
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: and half of what he said was the play. The

893
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: other half was him mf and the ref or maybe

894
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: me from the previous play or somebody on the other

895
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: side sideline. But now that now that you know, he

896
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: can just you know, coach the game and handle everything.

897
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: From the forty thousand foot level and Byron left, which

898
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: is calling plays. He seems like his his blood pressures

899
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: drop and he just seems like he's in a happier place.

900
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: But how does that? I mean, Brady wanted to play

901
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: with Bruce Arians. Did you understand why he would? I mean,

902
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: any any pocket passer would absolutely love that system. There's

903
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: a ton you watch Brady play there the night on Thursday,

904
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: they're in empty it seems like a quarter of the game,

905
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: they're just spreading people out. They're getting their best receivers

906
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: on the field, and they're letting Tom Brady do what

907
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: he does best, which is take his time and take

908
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: his take his check downs, you know, take the completions

909
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: and throw the big plays when they show up. But

910
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: what's he do better than you? Brady? Yeah? Everything, No,

911
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't do everything better than you. He does he

912
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: does uh. September thirteenth, twenty twenty one. But you know,

913
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: I think the one thing you watch that that last

914
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: they had where they went down the field, and the

915
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: one thing Brady does in two minute drills is he

916
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: knows defenses are scared of them, and he takes and

917
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: lets the defense get a ton of depths and create cushion.

918
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch that last drive where they went

919
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: down and kicked the field goal. He didn't throw a

920
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: ball over ten yards. He just was dinking and dunking

921
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: it and the defense was back pedaling and getting depth

922
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: and giving them cushion, and he was just throwing the

923
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: ball to the running backs and the tight ends and

924
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: they would step out of bounds after an eight yard game.

925
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing we've we've seen Brady do

926
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: in New England for years. He doesn't get rattled, he

927
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: doesn't take chances and try to force the ball downfield.

928
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: He takes what the defense gives him, and they end

929
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: up with, you know, seemingly easy drive at the end

930
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: of the game for a field goal to Win's Brady

931
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 1: went four years older than you. Brady is three years

932
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: older than That blows my mind saying that it's crazy.

933
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: How long would it take for you to get ready

934
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: to play in a game? Oh, I mean I could

935
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: walk out and play in a game, but just as

936
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: quickly as I walked in, I'd be walking off the

937
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: field with a handstream, shoulder or something. I'm in no

938
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: form to play right now. Who was the toughest quarterback

939
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: you faced. Well. I never beat Brady. I was up.

940
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I played against Brady a bunch. I was up twenty

941
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: one nothing in the first half in New England, and

942
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour took a low shot on me and blew

943
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: my almost blew my knee out. And I didn't end

944
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: up finishing the game, but we were up twenty one nothing.

945
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: So I beat Brady for a half. That's my best game.

946
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: I beat Brady for a half of the game. But

947
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: do you say this to your kids? I do, say,

948
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, dad, but Dad owned Brady for one half.

949
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: I was driving home. I was I coached my kids

950
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: seventh grade football team, and I was driving home. Half

951
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: the kids that live up by us, and I was

952
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: dropping them off, and we're driving along, and one of

953
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: the kids in the backseat told me that his second uncle,

954
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: which I don't even know what a second uncle is,

955
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: his second uncle tackled Tom Brady in college one time.

956
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: And it really just it really just made me how much,

957
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, It made me realize how little these kids

958
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: think of me. I'm their coach, less played in the NFL.

959
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: They're all out there in Russell Wilson jerseys and Scattle

960
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: Seahawks gear, and they talk about Brady all the time.

961
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: It drives me nuts. They do know you played in

962
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: the NFL for fifteen years. Yeah, but it's just like

963
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: it was just such a blip on their radar. They

964
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to talk about Russell Wilson and letting Russ

965
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Cood and Tom Brady. I don't even think they really

966
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: realized there registered to him. How's your USC Trojans. That

967
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: was a tough one. That was a tough one. You know,

968
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: it's it's to see the stadium half full, to see it,

969
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, us being seventeen point favorites and really get blood.

970
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it really wasn't a close game. We were

971
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: totally I mean there were so many penalties and so

972
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: such a lack of discipline. It's really really frustrating to

973
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: watch those guys play this last weekend. But the good

974
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: thing is this week two, we've got a lot of

975
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: football out. Did you lost to Stanford on the last

976
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: second play? Didn't you? That was a long time ago, Dan,

977
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure, oh I did. That's right. I lost to

978
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Chris Lewis. They threw a smash concept and they hit

979
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: the corner at the end of the game for a

980
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: touchdown the last second. That's right, good memory. Yeah, I'm

981
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: trying to bring up positives here. I'm sorry it feels

982
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: like i'm bringing up negatives. But you own Tom Brady

983
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: for one half twenty one nothing. Yeah. Yeah, you always

984
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: have that over him. I'm sure he remembers that too. Hey,

985
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us, Budd.

986
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,360
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. It just kind of dawned on me.

993
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: USC just lost to Stanford. And then didn't you lose

994
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: to Stanford in the last second play? Yeah? Oops, sorry

995
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: about that. Note to self. Have some positive things to

996
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: say when you have a guest on Yes, can you

997
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: imagine you're the quarterback and Bruce arians is calling into

998
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: plays and he's m F and you or somebody else,

999
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: but you know, Brady doesn't have to worry about that

1000
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: because Bruce arians isn't in his helmet. Yes, Carson Palmer

1001
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: played like fifteen years in the pros, went to USC.

1002
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: You can't even bring like the Heisman trophy to practice

1003
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: to show the kids because we haven't like if he

1004
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: wanted to show up to the kids. Hey, Tom Brady

1005
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have one of these. Russell Wilson does have one

1006
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: of these. I don't know if the kids would care

1007
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: a heisman. I don't know. I don't know if the

1008
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: kids know. If they're that young, I don't think they

1009
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: care about a heisman. Yeah, mccleman, I can't believe he's

1010
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: three years over than Tom brand He had a full career.

1011
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. Wild Tyler in New Jersey,

1012
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Hi Tyler, Welcome to the program. Best and Worst of

1013
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: the weekend? Six fight There we go. So my worst

1014
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: of the weekend is having you a sesar at work.

1015
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: My best of the weekend is watching my Seattle Seahawks

1016
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: win this weekend. Wait what happened to you at work?

1017
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: I had a caesar. I'm at the MT so that

1018
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: the perfect place to have a seizure. You know, could

1019
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: the Parmatics watching me. You know it's great. Okay, okay,

1020
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: you might be the first person who's called who's best

1021
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend I had to do with

1022
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: the seizure. I'll take it. Well, we're glad you're still

1023
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: with us there, Tyler, Thank you. Had I thought he

1024
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: said he had a Caesar like he was having a

1025
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: Caesar salad. I'm going, all right, a bad Caesar salad

1026
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: can ruin your day. There's no doubt about that. There's

1027
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: no doubt about Somebody says, what's the worst thing that

1028
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: happened to you this weekend? I had a Caesar Caesar salad,

1029
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: bad Caesar salad. You know, they just can't get good crutons, man,

1030
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, can't get good crutons. Let's take a break,

1031
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: last call for phone calls. What we learned once in

1032
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: store tomorrow? Did you guys hear did you think he

1033
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: said seizure? He was blase about it, like he had

1034
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: a Caesar work and then I went home. Yeah. Yeah.

1035
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: The club, he's like Gohawks. It's like I came out

1036
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: on top at the end of the weekend. Yeah,